[00:01] o/ [00:01] So, I gave up my Chromebook for a real system again. [00:02] you can't make it into a real system? [00:02] It was the ARM version and there were some major issues with configuration [00:03] ah [00:03] So I figured a thinkpad would be better [00:03] so picky [00:03] much web [00:03] so cloud [00:03] Lol [00:04] privacy? [00:04] what's that [00:04] etc. [00:04] I hear a lot of good stuff about thinkpads [00:04] markey in particular should do sales for them [00:04] Yeah... Works out of box. Even the fancy ones [00:05] my hp pavilion is still going strong [00:06] X1 Carbon. [00:06] I bought this used from my son so he could afford a newer gaming laptop [00:07] now he's wanting the latest new.... [00:07] what a nut [00:08] Lol [00:09] Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.13.0 on Ubuntu 14.04, Trusty Tahr powered by Linux 3.13.0-24-generic, CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II P960 Quad-Core Processor at 800-1800/1800 MHz, RAM: 5538/5712 MB, Storage: 285/528 GB, 228 procs, 165.6h up [00:10] I'm running Unity still [00:10] do you like it? [00:11] Yeah, I actually do [00:11] cool [00:11] I am not their target audience [00:12] Yeah... [00:14] but really, software is not religion [00:14] use what works for you [00:14] work with the people you enjoy [00:14] etc. [00:15] life can be enjoyable [00:18] you don't always realize the contributions you are making, anyway [00:18] I'm heading back to KDE... [00:18] I've missed it too much [00:18] that's wonderful news, Darkwing [00:19] I've missed you [00:19] Lol [00:19] and that sentence above was for -cafe, I see [00:19] oh well [00:24] off to dinner [01:19] ::runtime-bugs:: [1315969] ftp connections via kde apps take extremely long @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315969 (by Jason Straight) [07:34] so I asked for some advice regarding where to file a bug yesterday, but had to leave :/ (sorry BluesKaj) [07:34] lets ask again now that I am in front of the laptop for the day [07:34] my freshly upgraded Kubuntu fails to run my libgdx-based game. It crashes after a few seconds with a "intel_do_flush_locked failed Input/Output error" message. Which package should I file a bug against? mesa? [07:37] agateau: xserver-xorg-video-intel or mesa [07:38] prolly upstreamthough... even though I have no clue what sort of patching actually goes on there ;) [07:38] apachelogger: I guess I pick one and the competent people will reassign if neccessary [07:38] agateau: yeah, I have no clue where in launchpad that is tracked [07:38] upstream it'd be bugs.fdo -> product mesa component intel [07:39] apachelogger: ok, will look into this. Thanks. [08:38] ::runtime-bugs:: [1089483] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package kde-runtime-d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1089483 (by Richel Bilderbeek) [09:05] Oo [09:06] * apachelogger marks that fixed because he can [09:06] kubotu: is lunchpad drunk or are you? [09:08] both? [09:09] kubotu: order a beer for kubotu [09:09] * kubotu slides a beer down the bar to kubotu [09:09] :D [09:09] kubotu: order a beer for apachelogger [09:09] * kubotu slides a beer down the bar to apachelogger [09:11] mitya57: welcome to kubuntu-devel list :) [09:33] Thanks Riddell! [09:39] * Riddell spots 4.99.0 in unstable/frameworks [09:42] ::runtime-bugs:: [1089483] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package kde-runtime-d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1089483 (by Richel Bilderbeek) [10:10] Riddell: mitya57 what's up with the Qt mergery? [10:10] are we tracking merges somewhere? [10:16] shoot :/ [10:16] valorie: I might not be able to make it for the CC meeting, will you be able to attend? [10:16] or I reschedule my thing to tomorrow [10:21] Howdy folks [10:40] apachelogger: drinking so early in the morning? :O [10:40] jussi suggested it [10:41] jussi: are you trying to get apachelogger drunk so early :O [10:41] it's monday anyway, so it does not matter [10:41] wait what [10:41] drinking on monday's doesn't matter? [10:41] shadeslayer: can you do verifiction for pam-kwallet? [10:41] so we have at least two people who can confirm it nto being broken [10:41] apachelogger: sure, lemme finish off kde workspace 4.11.9 first [10:41] bug 1314118 bug 1314119 bug 1314120 [10:41] bug 1314118 in pam-kwallet (Ubuntu Trusty) "/usr/sbin/lightdm:6:__libc_message:malloc_printerr:_int_malloc:__GI___libc_malloc:__GI___strdup" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314118 [10:41] bug 1314119 in pam-kwallet (Ubuntu Trusty) "/usr/sbin/lightdm:11:__GI__IO_fwrite:createNewSalt:kwallet_hash:pam_sm_authenticate:_pam_dispatch_aux" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314119 [10:41] bug 1314120 in pam-kwallet (Ubuntu Trusty) "/usr/sbin/lightdm:11:__GI__IO_fread:fread:kwallet_hash:pam_sm_authenticate:_pam_dispatch_aux" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314120 [10:42] oh my :3 [10:44] shadeslayer: its not about drunk, its about ballmer peak... :D [10:44] psht, if you're off by even 0.1 ml ..... [10:44] shadeslayer: :D [10:45] better be accurate then [10:45] shadeslayer: no formal tracking currently, but I'm looking at the qt one from mitya57 and sgclark's work [10:45] kubotu: order a vodka for apachelogger [10:45] * kubotu slides a vodka down the bar to apachelogger [10:45] :D [10:50] Riddell: ok [11:13] apachelogger: bug 1314118 fails [11:13] bug 1314118 in pam-kwallet (Ubuntu Trusty) "/usr/sbin/lightdm:6:__libc_message:malloc_printerr:_int_malloc:__GI___libc_malloc:__GI___strdup" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314118 [11:13] apachelogger: on logging into the user where I made my custom wallet/password , it makes 2 wallets on login [11:14] apachelogger: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/05/plasma-desktopJv2749.png [11:14] shadeslayer: needs to be named kdewallet [11:14] not mentioned in the testcase mate :P [11:14] yeah, forgot to add it when I did the testrun :P [11:15] shadeslayer: you'd better check with alex whether that is intended though [11:15] not a new behavior though [11:15] right [11:15] anyway, apart from that it passes [11:16] shadeslayer: they all have the same test case btw [11:16] oh [11:16] yay [11:16] the actual crash causes are somewhat arbitrary [11:16] can mark them all as verification done then :P [11:16] aye [11:16] you may want to up your actual system though [11:16] give it real life testing until promotion to updates pocket [11:17] (although, I have not had any issues so far ^^) [11:18] I'm always running proposed [11:23] apachelogger: alex says it's a bug [11:23] so I'll report it upstream [11:23] aye [11:26] apachelogger: verification-done on all 3 bug reports btw [11:30] cheers [11:31] apachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334373 [11:32] KDE bug 334373 in general "PAM module creates a new a 'kdewallet' even though the user deleted it and created a custom wallet" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [11:32] incase you want to track it [11:32] looks like the wrong product, I think someone needs to make their project a proper kde playground project or something :P [12:06] Good afternoon. [12:09] hi lordievader [12:10] Hey Riddell, how are you doing? [12:12] getting all excited about the new frameworks release :) [12:12] now the question is, do we upload this to utopic? [12:13] KF5 you mean? I should test it some more... [12:13] not much to test just now but I plen to do a plasma next release at the end of the week [12:14] Oehh fancy :) [12:19] apachelogger: do we have a date yet for the kickoff meeting? [12:26] Riddell: I sent a mail I think, please check [12:26] or at least I think I sent one ^^ [12:33] hi sgclark [12:34] Riddell: morning :) there was the lintain attached to that mail with questions, want it as is? [12:35] oh didn't spot questions [12:36] update symbols on libqt4-declarative: [12:36] ok thank you [12:36] for the circular dependency you can work out what in libqt4-declarative depends on libqt4-gui and vice-verse and then we can work out if they need split [12:37] otherwise all good [12:50] ::runtime-bugs:: [1316108] What Are Things You Can Do to Slim Down Healthily @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1316108 (by Olivia Ava) [12:54] dafuq [12:54] spam :/ [12:56] at least the category is correct [13:02] shadeslayer: ye may want to throw that at #launchpad [13:53] ::runtime-bugs:: [1316108] What Are Things You Can Do to Slim Down Healthily @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1316108 (by Olivia Ava) [13:53] ::runtime-bugs:: [1316150] Is Slimming Down a Challenge? Find out about Turmeric Benefits @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1316150 (by Olivia Ava) [13:54] shadeslayer: dude, please tell #launchpad [13:54] ugh [13:54] right [13:55] ::workspace-bugs:: [1312806] Please update kde-workspace to 4.11.9 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1312806 (by Kubuntu IRC Bot) [13:55] ::workspace-bugs:: [1313193] Missing "$" in /usr/bin/startkde @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1313193 (by Rafael Jesus Alcantara Perez) [14:52] shadeslayer: did you poke someone with it? [14:53] shadeslayer: Suspended [14:53] now send me cookies [14:54] kubotu: order cookies, xmas for shadeslayer [14:54] * kubotu slides a whole bunch of last year's, now all dry cookies, down the crappy decorated and totally falling apart bar to shadeslayer and shouts: Happy whatever -.- [14:54] :O [14:58] ::runtime-bugs:: [1089483] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package kde-runtime-d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1089483 (by Richel Bilderbeek) [14:58] ::runtime-bugs:: [1106271] systemsettings does not start @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1106271 (by piotrekw1) [15:02] I really wonder what causes the rss feed bumps of old bugs today [15:09] kubotu is being silly today [15:10] well, it only reports what the bug rss feeds say [15:11] so something must trigger those old bugs to appear, but i can't find the cause in the bug reports themselves [15:11] the activity log doesn't show anything [15:29] anyone want to review http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde/revision/63 [15:42] Riddell: try to install kwin-style-dekorator [15:42] it says [15:42] he following packages will be REMOVED: [15:42] kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard kde-window-manager [15:42] and it's not a nice thing [15:46] shadeslayer: Package: kdegames [15:46] why was it arch any [15:47] * Make kdegames arch any and do not depend on packages [15:47] not built on arm [15:47] same for kdenetwork [15:47] same for kdenetwork [15:47] shadeslayer: I doubt you can drop that then [15:48] unless all deps now build on arm [15:48] apachelogger: I checked kdenetwork, all packages it depends on built on arm IIRC [15:48] looking at kdegames [15:48] shadeslayer: well, FWIW you could just upload, but you definitely would need to watch proposed migration logs [15:48] yeah [15:48] that's why we excluded stuff, it didn't build and blocked promotion [15:49] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/128438523/meta-kde_5%3A76~pre1ubuntu9_5%3A76~pre1ubuntu10.diff.gz [15:49] shadeslayer: kdenetwork recommends ends with a comma it seems [15:49] apachelogger: comes from debian then [15:49] apachelogger: can you see if installing kwin-style-dekorator it removes kde-plasma-desktop ? [15:49] shadeslayer: fix it anyway plz ;) [15:50] psht http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/kubrick/utopic/view/head:/debian/control#L28 [15:50] * shadeslayer will try to fix kubrick [15:53] bazaar browser diffs are really shitty to read [15:53] shadeslayer: does look fine otherwise from what I see [15:53] shadeslayer: don't forget to build with -vLASTUBUNTUVERSION [15:53] Peace-: there was an ABI breakage [15:54] * apachelogger wonders why we did not remove dekorator === jmux_ is now known as jmux [16:40] Afternoon [16:41] shadeslayer: yes, we are, to answer your question to me earlier :) [17:05] hi Darkwing [17:05] Darkwing: so how do we use this kubuntu twitter account? [17:06] so blue http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.99.0_trusty.html [17:21] utopic's influence is going far http://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2014/may/05/new-currency-independent-scotland-unicorn [17:34] sgclark: how are you getting on with qt? [17:37] hello world [17:37] your married ovidiu-florin is back :D [17:38] Riddell: running into problems, but I think it is something I did... [17:38] ovidiu-florin: congratulations! [17:38] ovidiu-florin: awooga! [17:38] ovidiu-florin: all happyness and love in the florin house? [17:38] I'm still not fully sober, but I'm mostly ready for action. [17:39] Riddell: ovidiu-florin is my first name [17:39] Bogdan is my last name [17:39] the answer is yes :D [17:39] the ring will take some getting use to [17:40] :) [17:40] thank you all [17:41] congratulations! [17:43] * ovidiu-florin is catching up with the emails [17:43] the mumble is in 1 hour? [17:43] meeting* [17:44] next week [17:44] oh [17:44] I gave the wrong url [17:45] alas, that's 5th of may anyway, so doesn't matter ^^ [17:47] people talk so little with me on the ML there's now a thread with 4 mails all from me :'< [17:47] apachelogger: where is the meeting? [17:50] Riddell: the mumble, although yofel did not confirm yet [18:18] Etriaph: hello [18:18] Hi. [18:18] apachelogger: ack [18:18] hi Etriaph [18:18] Hi shadeslayer [18:18] shadeslayer: what did i say? [18:18] I didn't say anything [18:18] waaa [18:18] * apachelogger runs into wall [18:19] Etriaph: as I've said in the email, the tasks I've mentioned there don't require acess to the server. You can do them on any wordpress instance. [18:19] I made apachelogger run into a wall ... muwhahaha [18:19] apachelogger: re meta-kde [18:19] ovidiu-florin: I'm aware, I guess I'm looking to see what you have now to put the tasks into context [18:19] shadeslayer: ah [18:19] and if you're lucky you can do it even without an WP instance [18:19] Not the code so much as the site [18:20] my internet is so very shitty [18:20] probably as shitty as apachelogger's [18:21] I find that hard to believe [18:21] ovidiu-florin: After reading the list of tasks you have yet to complete I'm just trying to visualize what it is you're looking to get done. [18:22] Etriaph: do you think you can help me with setting up the child theme for Evolve? [18:22] I've been having difficultied doing that. [18:22] I can help you get started if you want [18:23] but after that you'll have do do some figuring out, since that's the part I've been having trouble with [18:23] ovidiu-florin: I can give it a shot. What obstacles have you run into with it? [18:24] And are you using community themes or have you rolled your own? [18:24] Etriaph: When I made the child theme instead of just adding the child's CSS to the parent, it broke the parent. [18:24] Etriaph: https://wordpress.org/themes/evolve [18:24] this one [18:24] modified a lot [18:24] in structure and in layout [18:24] so, updating it would be a problem [18:25] OK, do you have a pre-rolled child theme you're trying to integrate with it? [18:26] Not anymore [18:26] Or have you tried to create your own? [18:26] Etriaph: this one offers all that we need and it's under GPL, so there is no need to roll a new one. [18:27] it's developers controbute ocasionally with updates, that might be usefull [18:27] so, a child theme would be the best way to go, IMHO [18:27] OK, so you are properly trying to ensure that you can update Evolve when necessary without breaking anything [18:28] yes [18:28] Etriaph: I would recommend we try this on a clean WP instance [18:28] Yup. [18:28] with a clean version of the theme [18:29] and if that works, we'll just upload the new child theme [18:29] I have Apache/PHP/MySQL setup on my desktop here, so I can start from scratch and start playing with it [18:29] Etriaph: can you start working on this please? [18:29] Yup, I'll give it a go. [18:30] great. [18:30] What version of WP are you running? 3.9? [18:31] apachelogger: you mean me providing the mumble instance? Sure, can do. Though just running it with a plain config on our server would work just as well [18:33] Etriaph: always the latest [18:34] Roger that. So just to confirm (in the case it may be pertinent) I'll be using Apache 2/PHP 5.3 + MySQL + WordPress 3.9 + Evolve 2.9.2 [18:36] Etriaph: currently we have Evolve 2.9.1 [18:37] Apache/2.2.22 (Debian) [18:38] PHP 5.4.4 [18:38] mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.35 [18:38] Oh, I'm on PHP 5.5 apparently [18:38] it's a debian machine [18:38] Our versions match closely enough I think we'll be fine [18:38] packages are slightly older [18:39] I'm on Kubuntu 14.04 [18:39] I recommend you work on a Debian VM [18:45] That would be more of a feat [18:46] I doubt it [18:46] https://www.vm4nerds.com/ [18:47] I mean for me to setup a vm to create a child theme for WordPress; that's kind of overkill. :) [18:59] ovidiu-florin: congratulations :) Careful not to forget your ring on sinks ;) [19:02] Mamarok: thank you. I'll try [19:11] ovidiu-florin: Engaged? [19:11] Or newly married I take it? [19:43] ovidiu-florin: OK, I do have it working (ie., the caroussel doesn't break); however, it requires you to copy a few folders each time you update Evolve. It's either that or you hack Evolve itself. [19:44] After reading about the theme, it's complexity makes it difficult to make a child theme out of [19:44] It uses constants to define the paths, so everything always points to the child and not the parent by way of media requirements (javascript, css, etc.) [19:48] ovidiu-florin: If you want, I can give you a web address to see the result at. [20:44] hi Etriaph, welcome along [20:44] Hi Riddell, thanks [20:56] Riddell: today I'm shipping my first DVD request for the cycle in the country: includes a requested Kubuntu DVD [21:00] Riddell: ping [21:02] Darkwing: he's been idle since his last message - already 10pm in the uk [21:03] jose: I was afread of that. [21:10] hi Darkwing [21:10] jose: what what? why do you get dvd requests? [21:11] I'm the contact for Ubuntu Peru [21:11] Riddell: care for a PM? [21:11] sure [21:51] sgclark: lots new packages to fix :) http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.99.0_trusty.html [22:02] Riddell: ok, still fighting with cirular depend === alket_ is now known as alket === alket_ is now known as alket