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comics_ideeswell i tried to run multiple commands in .desktop but it did not work as I wanted to00:17
comics_ideeswell in network manager you must complete 2 windows00:21
comics_ideesthe first window is the lubuntu user login and password00:21
comics_ideesthe second window is the network login and pasword00:21
comics_ideesIf you type network login and password in first window it will be an error00:22
comics_ideesin connection00:22
comics_ideesthis comment was for lxde40400:23
comics_ideessorry for lxde1404 I mean00:24
comics_ideeslxde1404 did you give login and password only to one window?00:25
comics_ideesor in 2 windows?00:25
lxde1404comics_idees, i initiated an lxde session, executed nm-applet on a terminal, the nm applet appeared but when i clicked on my wireless network i get a pop up window which says  " Connection failure. Failed to add/activate connection. (32) Not authorised to control networking"00:28
lxde1404at no point was i prompted for a password00:28
comics_ideeshm you must somehow give lubuntu user login and password before you try to connect to network00:29
lxde1404at no point was i prompted for a password *after* login and initiating an lxde session00:30
comics_ideesyes but nmanager needs it to continue00:31
comics_ideessomehow you must give it to network manager00:31
comics_ideesmaybe with sudo or somehow00:32
comics_ideesif you dont give user password it says unathorized access00:33
ianorlinlxde1404 are you autologging in?00:33
lxde1404no00:34
lxde1404ianorlin, i think the problem is polkit related00:58
john_ramboHi, Problem is the Software Updater is not appearing automatically even when security updates are available ....Is this a known bug ?07:05
tlosmHi hall08:47
tlosmops all :P08:48
tlosmHi guys is here the place where i can find some Lubuntu PPC dev ?08:48
tlosmok in any way ... i will write , probably UTC is different , probably some one is sleeping or other are coding ....08:51
tlosmI had been write a post on forum ubuntu about ... my Quad G5 starting running Lubuntu08:51
tlosmbut for have it i put a RadeonHD  4650HD video Board in parallel with my X190008:52
tlosmthe : cat /proc/cpuinfo dont recognize as a Quad but a Dual plus gave me error some time in Cpu Ghz and in L2 cache ...08:54
tlosmplus the Glx gave me wrong colors ... but averall experience si good ... 2d is good and audio play thru hdmi output08:55
A3Hi, I was wondering if Lubuntu includes Zeitgeist or any other invasive software that is part of Ubuntu?09:01
tlosmA3 i think here all are away09:04
A3ok thanks09:08
tlosmnp09:09
tlosmA3 i found a forum about open a terminal and write: ps -ef |grep zeit   If you will see the zeitgeist-daemon means it is running :P09:20
tlosmit is in italian http://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why?lang=it <-- if you need there is all the way to kill the proc09:21
A3ok thanks09:26
A3i actually havent installed lubuntu yet09:26
A3running ubuntu atm09:26
tlosmok :)09:31
tlosmin any way im not a dev :P ... i hope a dev wake up :D09:31
=== Kamilion|ZNC is now known as Kamilion
tlosmany dev of LubuntuPPC present ?09:52
comics_ideeswhat is a ppc09:58
comics_idees?09:58
tlosmdoh!09:58
tlosmPowerPC cpu :P09:58
comics_ideesthis is an old cpcu from 90's ????10:00
comics_ideescpu10:00
comics_ideesif it is from 90's then it is from my age early pc s10:02
comics_ideesIt reminds me the past10:02
comics_ideesI wish I could go back to that age10:02
comics_ideesit was good10:03
tlosmehmmm no the PowerPC architecture is still in develpement ... Freescale CoriQ and IBm Power8 are the new architecture with 64 core :)10:04
comics_ideesOh nice10:06
comics_ideesI ve been left behind the evolution10:07
tlosmi start enter again ... when buy my first AmigaNg in 201210:08
silverlionhey there.10:16
silverlionis there a possibility to open the trash folder in terminal?10:17
JohnDoe_71Rusyes10:21
JohnDoe_71Rusmake search Trash in home10:22
silverlionJohnDoe_71Rus: thanks.10:24
silverliondone it ...10:24
silverlionbut the reason why I was looking for it is another one "failed to delete item from trash" << this is when I try to delete files from my trash10:24
A3Hi, I was wondering if Lubuntu includes Zeitgeist or any other invasive software that is part of Ubuntu?10:26
silverlionA3: not that I know of. but you better should return tonight around 20 hrs utc10:30
A3thanks10:31
tlosmsilverlion do you know if there is some PowerPc Lobuntu developer here wake up? or is better for me return later ?10:33
silverlionits always better to return at night because most of the devs are americans and online around 20 hrs utc10:35
tlosmOk i was thinking about this ... ;)10:35
tlosmthankyou10:36
JohnDoe_71Russilverlion: Thу Trash present on the removable drivers to10:36
tlosmsee you later10:36
silverlionJohnDoe_71Rus: checking now10:38
leszekhi10:40
silverlionJohnDoe_71Rus: no clue what happened now but after i unplugged the flash-drive everything was fine. thanks for your support!10:40
JohnDoe_71Russilverlion: good10:41
silverlionhi jono15:04
MikaelaHi, does anyone here know anything about Spotify? It's going outside of my monitor (I have only one) and I cannot restore it to place where I can control it.16:09
silverlionMikaela: sorry no clue :(16:11
Mr_Comethi ppl16:55
Mr_Cometi use lubuntu and there is a program that needs sudo16:56
Mr_Cometi use non sudo a/c for normal day use16:56
Mr_Comethow to run a app without sudo?16:56
Mr_Cometapp16:56
Mr_Cometapp16:56
Mr_Cometoops16:56
Mr_Cometapp's name is TrueCrypt16:56
comics_ideeswhat does app TrueCrypt do????17:15
Mr_Cometunencrypt and encrypt17:16
Mr_Cometfile/volumes.17:16
Mr_Cometmount encrypted drives17:17
comics_ideessometimes when I click google x17:18
comics_ideeschrome17:18
comics_ideesit opens many windows17:18
comics_ideesor when I click terminal17:18
comics_ideeswhy this happens17:18
Mr_Cometoh17:18
Mr_Cometno idea.17:18
comics_ideesit is from docky17:19
comics_ideesis there any step by step guide how to put a vnc server to lubuntu pc and vnc client to windows pc and connect those pc s together???17:20
comics_ideesI would like to connect17:21
silverlioncomics_idees: teamviewer works on lubuntu as well17:22
comics_ideesbut teamviewer is throug internet17:22
comics_ideesI want connection through lan n17:22
comics_ideesnot from internet17:22
silverlioncomics_idees: ok that's your point17:24
comics_ideesdoes team viewer connect through lan?17:24
ianorlinyou could use switch user on logout but that will use more ram17:24
ianorlinsorry did to do sometihng that needs sudo17:25
ianorlinalso if you are comfortable enough you can login to a tty as the account with sudo and then sudo and logout17:25
comics_ideesI have another question with youtube videos in google chrome in lubuntu17:28
Mr_Cometi use firefox.17:28
comics_ideesI tried play a youtube video and it was not playing well17:29
comics_ideesdo I need to download something?17:29
comics_ideesI used firefox but after some time it became very slow and I stopped using it17:30
comics_ideesit was asking to delete some things to stop being slow17:30
holsteini use chrome, since it has the only current version of flash for linux from adobe17:46
holsteinhttps://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/17:46
holsteinyou can use the chrome pepperflash in chromium17:47
holsteinalso, opting into https://www.youtube.com/html5 for flash alternative where available17:47
* Mikaela goes to AskUbuntu with her question.17:51
ianorlinthere also is a firefox addon for that17:56
holsteinMikaela: spotify? in the browser?18:12
Mikaelaholstein: desktop18:13
holsteinMikaela: from where? https://www.spotify.com/us/download/previews/ ?18:13
Mikaelahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/461880/what-can-i-do-for-spotify-linux-preview-that-always-goes-out-of-monitor-with-lub18:13
holsteinMikaela: the "preview" ?18:13
MikaelaYes18:13
holsteinMikaela: let them know whats happening with it.. its a preview version18:13
MikaelaDo you know any other Spotifys for Linux desktop than the preview?18:13
MikaelaI cannot see any button for sending feedback anywhere.18:14
holsteinMikaela: they (spotify) only offer that, AFAIK18:14
MikaelaAnd why is that tagged as gnome, I said that I am using Lubuntu.18:14
holsteinMikaela: i mean, if its a preview version, its likely the issue..18:15
holsteinMikaela: tagged as gnome?18:15
MikaelaPlease link me to non-preview version and I will try it.18:15
Mikaelaaskubuntu question, fixed.18:15
holsteinMikaela: https://www.spotify.com/us/download/previews/18:15
holsteinMikaela: there is no "non-preview" https://www.spotify.com/us/download/other/18:16
Mikaelaholstein: I cannot see any other versions than "preview" there.18:16
holsteinMikaela: there is officially supported windows18:16
Mikaelaholstein: Why are you asking me to install non-preview versioin then?18:16
holsteinMikaela: correct.. there are *no* versions provided for you for the operating system youa re using18:16
holsteinMikaela: im not18:16
holsteinMikaela: im suggesting that you are using a preview version, and should expect beta performance18:16
MikaelaI can also use the stale version with WINE of course, but I don't like the sound of this computer when it's using 500% of CPU...18:17
holsteinMikaela: thats the windows version.. its not made for linux18:18
holsteinMikaela: there is nothing about lubuntu/ubuntu or linux that are preventing spotify from working18:18
holsteinMikaela: you can try the usual.. remove configs from user /home, and see if its an issue with the config.. you can try launching from the terminal, and see if any helpful error message show18:19
Mikaelaholstein: I am sure that I am not the only person experiencing this. Do you use Spotify for any device (not web) byuthe way?18:19
holsteinMikaela: otherewise, its really the reponsibility of spotify to provide support for the projects they create18:19
Mikaelaholstein: I removed config, same issue. Have you seen Skype providing so much support either?18:20
holsteinMikaela: its not really up to the operating system to faciliate the running of the 3rd party applications, though18:22
holsteinMikaela: you can, and should file a bug, and try and get someone upstream involved, as well as getting someone else to confirm the issue18:22
Mikaelaholstein: I think that Ask Ubuntu can help provide others to confirm the issue and Spotify doesn't list any feedback or report bug links anywhere that I can see.18:23
holsteinMikaela: sure. you can make one18:23
holstein!bug18:24
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.18:24
Mikaelaholstein: Spotify isn't in Ubuntu repositories, so I cannot really use ubuntu-bug.18:24
holsteinMikaela: though, it will still be most helpful for the creators of the product to provide support18:24
holsteinMikaela: sure.. thats what i mean by involving someone from upstream.. from spotify18:24
holsteinMikaela: its just not officially supporting linux, so, you should expect some wrinkles18:24
Mikaelaholstein: And how do I do that? I still cannot find any links anywhere, only request for sending feedback.18:25
holsteinMikaela: the !bug link above18:25
holsteinMikaela: you create a bug there, if there is not one.. then, try and get someone to confirm that they are also experiencing the same thing18:25
Mikaelaholstein: Which part of it?18:25
Mikaelaholstein: As far as I know, it's not allowed to open bug reports against Ubuntu for packages that aren't in Ubuntu or don't have anything to do with Ubuntu officially.18:26
holsteinhttp://community.spotify.com/ would be where i would start for upstream support18:26
holsteinMikaela: its?18:26
holsteinMikaela: you do. you open whatever bug you like, if you dont find one18:26
holsteinMikaela: first step for me would be getting it confirmed. and i would be glad to do that, but it will be many hours from now18:27
* Mikaela consults #ubuntu-bugs and does that tomorrow.18:27
Mikaela!logs18:28
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.18:28
holsteinMikaela: sure.. if you can stay logged here, and remind me, i will confirm that issue with yuo18:28
Mikaelaholstein:18:36
Mikaela21:35:35 < rbasak> Mikaela: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages. But for a package to enter Ubuntu, it must be Free Software, have source availalbe, and so on. I'm not sure Spotify qualifies.18:36
Mikaela21:35:52 < Mikaela> Spotify doesn't qualify.18:36
bix_noodHey guys i have a dilemma.18:42
bix_noodDoes LXDE fall behind desktop environment such as XFCE in some category?18:42
bix_noodI'm using XFCE on debian stable, my laptop is kinda old and i consider switching to something even more lightweight.18:43
bix_noodAnd i'm afraid it's going to lack some certain features i don't know which yet.18:44
MikaelaI haven't noticed any missing features and you can have them both installed at the same time.18:46
bix_noodi would like to avoid that, but thanks.19:01
bix_noodI like the fact that my printer actually works on ubuntu.19:01
bix_noodGod damned HP and their laserjets.19:02
ianorlinaren't all printers annoying?19:06
ianorlinalthough with lubuntu you may need to install hplip19:06
bix_noodwell cups (or gutenprint?) printed test page without problems.19:08
bix_noodBut yeah i noticed that there's no hplip on my liveusb system.19:08
bix_noodhplip on debian is a horror.19:09
bix_noodhp-check told me i lack like 60% of dependencies.19:09
tlosmhi all19:09
tlosmSome Lubuntu PPC developer here ?19:10
bix_noodhey there m8, sorry i can't personally help.19:31
tlosmno i dont need help i just need to report :P19:34
silverliontlosm: report (for) what?19:35
tlosmbix_nood:  i wrote on ubuntu forum 4 day ago a good news ... I have my Quad G5 running Lubuntu 14.04 PPC19:36
tlosmbut on a RadeonHD Pcie Video Board not on Apple Video Board :P19:36
silverliontlosm: that is indeed good news19:36
tlosmsilverlion: ... all the older release dont work on Quad G519:37
tlosmfor make it work i put an X86 RadeonHD in couple with my X190019:38
tlosmpratically i have 2 video board on my G5 right now19:38
tlosmSilverion but much need to be fixed19:38
tlosmcat /proc/cpuinfo gave me wrong cpu type and L2 memory and Machine19:39
silverliontlosm: i would be glad to get more info about your efforts so that we maybe can put together a "how-to" for that19:39
tlosmsilverion i dint nothing special , just have a idea and test it ... and have a positive result ... i can say for sure lubuntu is the only one Linux distro working in Quad G5 without any "geek things"19:41
tlosmsilverlion: check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221421 <-- i put all my experience and all the strange happenings19:42
tlosmthere is on G5 the same problem who afflict the X1000 Aeon ... glx gave wrong color , but isnt a big problem because i thing can be simple fixed in future19:43
tlosmthing = think19:43
tlosmin any way i can say for sure thanks to Lubuntu the G5 Quad can be upgraded with a newest video board :-)19:45
silverlion;)19:46
silverliontlosm: thank you for this ... I've passed on the link you gave to the developers mailing-list19:46
silverlion;)19:46
tlosmthank you , i shared the forum in apple support and in the macpowerpc Fb group and macpro powermac users on facebook too.. all are start upgrading their machine ... guys here all will install ubuntu for go upgraded :P19:47
tlosmthanks for everything ... i will continue report problems in the ubuntu forum ;)19:52
tlosmciao Luigi19:52
comics_ideeswell i tried to install flashplugin-nonfree but instead it installed flashplugin-installer20:00
comics_ideesand the videos dont play very well in youtube20:00
comics_ideesI forced html520:00
comics_ideesstill some problems20:01
comics_ideesin youtube videos20:01
comics_ideeswhat should I install to have better video playback in youtube20:02
silverlioncomics_idees: are you running lubuntu?20:17
comics_ideesyes20:17
comics_ideesand have some problems in youtube videos20:17
silverlioncomics_idees: i have installed the "ubuntu-restricted-packages" and no probs with youtube videos20:18
comics_ideesI install it with sudo?20:18
comics_ideesubuntu-restricted-packages is the same with ubuntu-restricted-extras?20:19
silverlioncomics_idees: have a look at the synaptic package manager20:19
silverlioncomics_idees: yes20:19
comics_ideesok20:19
comics_ideesI try to find them20:20
A3Hi, I was wondering if Lubuntu includes Zeitgeist or any other invasive software that is bundled with standard Ubuntu?20:48
silverlionholstein: ping20:48
silverlionhey A320:48
silverlion;)20:48
A3ah hey20:51
A3yea, i wanna switch over from ubuntu but part of that reason is all the bloatware and spyware20:51
A3just wanna make sure lubuntu has its priorities straight20:51
holsteinsilverlion: pong21:15
silverlionholstein: thanks for responding. I needed your help with [22:51] <A3> yea, i wanna switch over from ubuntu but part of that reason is all the bloatware and spyware21:16
holsteinMikaela: correct.. spotify is *not* an ubuntu supported product.. but, you can file a bug for it.. and should, if you want any attention for it21:16
silverlionholstein: and the question [22:48] <A3> Hi, I was wondering if Lubuntu includes Zeitgeist or any other invasive software that is bundled with standard Ubuntu?21:16
holsteinsilverlion: i always just link http://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why for that21:17
holsteinif someone wants to remove it, they can..21:17
silverlionholstein: thank you ... I'll pass that link on when the questions comes up again ;)21:17
holsteinsilverlion: otherwise, it gets into gray areas, or opinion21:18
holsteinit is what it is.. if the user doesnt want it, thats how to remove it.. you know?21:18
silverlionholstein: I know21:18
holsteinsilverlion: otherwise.. all is well?21:18
silverlionbut as i am not a supporter normally I wanted the two of you to get in touch21:19
silverlionholstein: i dont get your question21:19
silverlion^^21:19
holsteinsilverlion: you are well? doing ok?21:19
silverlionholstein: my head has to much to think about at the moment21:20
holsteinsilverlion: no worries.. you can handle it, im sure :)21:20
silverlionholstein: tbh I am not sure if i am the right person for TL21:20
holsteinTL?21:20
silverlionteam leader21:21
silverlionholstein: see http://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms21:21
holsteinsilverlion: nah.. you'll be fine :)21:23
comics_ideestoday was a very bad day21:27
comics_ideesI could not fix video21:27
comics_ideesfor chrome21:27
comics_ideesI downloaded some plugins21:28
comics_ideesbut all had problems21:28
holsteinyou shouldnt need pluging for chrome to "fix" video21:28
silverlionholstein: fyi: recommended ubuntu-restricted-extras to him21:29
holsteinthe quality of your day shouldnt hang on using software on hardware that has promised support for another operating system ;)21:29
holsteincomics_idees: you should determine if this is flash related, then, use the most current version of flash to test21:29
comics_ideesit says I have the most current version of flash installed21:30
holsteincomics_idees: you can do this easily from chrome.. and test with https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/21:30
holsteincomics_idees: sure, but *is* it flash content?21:30
comics_ideesit is youtube21:31
holsteinif not, flash wont matter.. it could be content that is not intented to, nor attempting to support linux21:31
holsteincomics_idees: you should try as the guest user, and consider a live CD21:31
holsteincomics_idees: i literally have out of the box support for all content on youtube21:31
holsteincomics_idees: consider https://www.youtube.com/html521:31
holstein^ you can opt into html5 content with a checkbox21:32
holstein*where available21:32
comics_ideesI tried html5 but still no good playback21:33
holsteincomics_idees: "good" ?21:33
comics_ideesI mean a watch-able video21:34
holsteincomics_idees: your hardware should be capable.. and your mind should be open to "wrinkles"21:34
comics_ideeswhat are wrinkles21:34
comics_ideesmy hardware is capable21:34
holsteincomics_idees: potentially poor performance21:34
comics_ideesI think it will must be something I must activate or deactivate in chrome so it will not cause problems to youtube videos21:39
holsteincomics_idees: sure. but, i disagree21:39
comics_ideesor some additional codecs missing21:40
holsteincomics_idees: there is nothing in chrome, or linux, or ubuntu blocking you from youtube.. i needed not to activate nor deactivate21:40
holsteincomics_idees: its flash.. you have flash.. plus, you are trying to bypass with html5..21:40
holsteincomics_idees: i have had issues on hardware that is both old, and/or, not well supported giving poor performance with youtube21:40
comics_ideesmaybe I should change the flash version21:41
holsteinbut, youtube doenst promise that level of support and coverage21:41
holsteincomics_idees: you are not using flash, correct? you are using html5?21:41
comics_ideesI used both flash and html521:41
holsteincomics_idees: so undo your html5 preference, try as the guest user, and/or a live CD21:41
holsteinconfirm your flash version is the latest available to you with https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/21:42
comics_ideesok I will try to check it21:42
holsteincomics_idees: try it.. now https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/21:44
holsteini have 13,0,0,20621:44
holsteindo you?21:45

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