[00:17] <comics_idees> well i tried to run multiple commands in .desktop but it did not work as I wanted to
[00:21] <comics_idees> well in network manager you must complete 2 windows
[00:21] <comics_idees> the first window is the lubuntu user login and password
[00:21] <comics_idees> the second window is the network login and pasword
[00:22] <comics_idees> If you type network login and password in first window it will be an error
[00:22] <comics_idees> in connection
[00:23] <comics_idees> this comment was for lxde404
[00:24] <comics_idees> sorry for lxde1404 I mean
[00:25] <comics_idees> lxde1404 did you give login and password only to one window?
[00:25] <comics_idees> or in 2 windows?
[00:28] <lxde1404> comics_idees, i initiated an lxde session, executed nm-applet on a terminal, the nm applet appeared but when i clicked on my wireless network i get a pop up window which says  " Connection failure. Failed to add/activate connection. (32) Not authorised to control networking"
[00:28] <lxde1404> at no point was i prompted for a password
[00:29] <comics_idees> hm you must somehow give lubuntu user login and password before you try to connect to network
[00:30] <lxde1404> at no point was i prompted for a password *after* login and initiating an lxde session
[00:31] <comics_idees> yes but nmanager needs it to continue
[00:31] <comics_idees> somehow you must give it to network manager
[00:32] <comics_idees> maybe with sudo or somehow
[00:33] <comics_idees> if you dont give user password it says unathorized access
[00:33] <ianorlin> lxde1404 are you autologging in?
[00:34] <lxde1404> no
[00:58] <lxde1404> ianorlin, i think the problem is polkit related
[07:05] <john_rambo> Hi, Problem is the Software Updater is not appearing automatically even when security updates are available ....Is this a known bug ?
[08:47] <tlosm> Hi hall
[08:48] <tlosm> ops all :P
[08:48] <tlosm> Hi guys is here the place where i can find some Lubuntu PPC dev ?
[08:51] <tlosm> ok in any way ... i will write , probably UTC is different , probably some one is sleeping or other are coding ....
[08:51] <tlosm> I had been write a post on forum ubuntu about ... my Quad G5 starting running Lubuntu
[08:52] <tlosm> but for have it i put a RadeonHD  4650HD video Board in parallel with my X1900
[08:54] <tlosm> the : cat /proc/cpuinfo dont recognize as a Quad but a Dual plus gave me error some time in Cpu Ghz and in L2 cache ...
[08:55] <tlosm> plus the Glx gave me wrong colors ... but averall experience si good ... 2d is good and audio play thru hdmi output
[09:01] <A3> Hi, I was wondering if Lubuntu includes Zeitgeist or any other invasive software that is part of Ubuntu?
[09:04] <tlosm> A3 i think here all are away
[09:08] <A3> ok thanks
[09:09] <tlosm> np
[09:20] <tlosm> A3 i found a forum about open a terminal and write: ps -ef |grep zeit   If you will see the zeitgeist-daemon means it is running :P
[09:21] <tlosm> it is in italian http://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why?lang=it <-- if you need there is all the way to kill the proc
[09:26] <A3> ok thanks
[09:26] <A3> i actually havent installed lubuntu yet
[09:26] <A3> running ubuntu atm
[09:31] <tlosm> ok :)
[09:31] <tlosm> in any way im not a dev :P ... i hope a dev wake up :D
[09:52] <tlosm> any dev of LubuntuPPC present ?
[09:58] <comics_idees> what is a ppc
[09:58] <comics_idees> ?
[09:58] <tlosm> doh!
[09:58] <tlosm> PowerPC cpu :P
[10:00] <comics_idees> this is an old cpcu from 90's ????
[10:00] <comics_idees> cpu
[10:02] <comics_idees> if it is from 90's then it is from my age early pc s
[10:02] <comics_idees> It reminds me the past
[10:02] <comics_idees> I wish I could go back to that age
[10:03] <comics_idees> it was good
[10:04] <tlosm> ehmmm no the PowerPC architecture is still in develpement ... Freescale CoriQ and IBm Power8 are the new architecture with 64 core :)
[10:06] <comics_idees> Oh nice
[10:07] <comics_idees> I ve been left behind the evolution
[10:08] <tlosm> i start enter again ... when buy my first AmigaNg in 2012
[10:16] <silverlion> hey there.
[10:17] <silverlion> is there a possibility to open the trash folder in terminal?
[10:21] <JohnDoe_71Rus> yes
[10:22] <JohnDoe_71Rus> make search Trash in home
[10:24] <silverlion> JohnDoe_71Rus: thanks.
[10:24] <silverlion> done it ...
[10:24] <silverlion> but the reason why I was looking for it is another one "failed to delete item from trash" << this is when I try to delete files from my trash
[10:26] <A3> Hi, I was wondering if Lubuntu includes Zeitgeist or any other invasive software that is part of Ubuntu?
[10:30] <silverlion> A3: not that I know of. but you better should return tonight around 20 hrs utc
[10:31] <A3> thanks
[10:33] <tlosm> silverlion do you know if there is some PowerPc Lobuntu developer here wake up? or is better for me return later ?
[10:35] <silverlion> its always better to return at night because most of the devs are americans and online around 20 hrs utc
[10:35] <tlosm> Ok i was thinking about this ... ;)
[10:36] <tlosm> thankyou
[10:36] <JohnDoe_71Rus> silverlion: Thу Trash present on the removable drivers to
[10:36] <tlosm> see you later
[10:38] <silverlion> JohnDoe_71Rus: checking now
[10:40] <leszek> hi
[10:40] <silverlion> JohnDoe_71Rus: no clue what happened now but after i unplugged the flash-drive everything was fine. thanks for your support!
[10:41] <JohnDoe_71Rus> silverlion: good
[15:04] <silverlion> hi jono
[16:09] <Mikaela> Hi, does anyone here know anything about Spotify? It's going outside of my monitor (I have only one) and I cannot restore it to place where I can control it.
[16:11] <silverlion> Mikaela: sorry no clue :(
[16:55] <Mr_Comet> hi ppl
[16:56] <Mr_Comet> i use lubuntu and there is a program that needs sudo
[16:56] <Mr_Comet> i use non sudo a/c for normal day use
[16:56] <Mr_Comet> how to run a app without sudo?
[16:56] <Mr_Comet> app
[16:56] <Mr_Comet> app
[16:56] <Mr_Comet> oops
[16:56] <Mr_Comet> app's name is TrueCrypt
[17:15] <comics_idees> what does app TrueCrypt do????
[17:16] <Mr_Comet> unencrypt and encrypt
[17:16] <Mr_Comet> file/volumes.
[17:17] <Mr_Comet> mount encrypted drives
[17:18] <comics_idees> sometimes when I click google x
[17:18] <comics_idees> chrome
[17:18] <comics_idees> it opens many windows
[17:18] <comics_idees> or when I click terminal
[17:18] <comics_idees> why this happens
[17:18] <Mr_Comet> oh
[17:18] <Mr_Comet> no idea.
[17:19] <comics_idees> it is from docky
[17:20] <comics_idees> is there any step by step guide how to put a vnc server to lubuntu pc and vnc client to windows pc and connect those pc s together???
[17:21] <comics_idees> I would like to connect
[17:22] <silverlion> comics_idees: teamviewer works on lubuntu as well
[17:22] <comics_idees> but teamviewer is throug internet
[17:22] <comics_idees> I want connection through lan n
[17:22] <comics_idees> not from internet
[17:24] <silverlion> comics_idees: ok that's your point
[17:24] <comics_idees> does team viewer connect through lan?
[17:24] <ianorlin> you could use switch user on logout but that will use more ram
[17:25] <ianorlin> sorry did to do sometihng that needs sudo
[17:25] <ianorlin> also if you are comfortable enough you can login to a tty as the account with sudo and then sudo and logout
[17:28] <comics_idees> I have another question with youtube videos in google chrome in lubuntu
[17:28] <Mr_Comet> i use firefox.
[17:29] <comics_idees> I tried play a youtube video and it was not playing well
[17:29] <comics_idees> do I need to download something?
[17:30] <comics_idees> I used firefox but after some time it became very slow and I stopped using it
[17:30] <comics_idees> it was asking to delete some things to stop being slow
[17:46] <holstein> i use chrome, since it has the only current version of flash for linux from adobe
[17:46] <holstein> https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[17:47] <holstein> you can use the chrome pepperflash in chromium
[17:47] <holstein> also, opting into https://www.youtube.com/html5 for flash alternative where available
[17:51]  * Mikaela goes to AskUbuntu with her question.
[17:56] <ianorlin> there also is a firefox addon for that
[18:12] <holstein> Mikaela: spotify? in the browser?
[18:13] <Mikaela> holstein: desktop
[18:13] <holstein> Mikaela: from where? https://www.spotify.com/us/download/previews/ ?
[18:13] <Mikaela> http://askubuntu.com/questions/461880/what-can-i-do-for-spotify-linux-preview-that-always-goes-out-of-monitor-with-lub
[18:13] <holstein> Mikaela: the "preview" ?
[18:13] <Mikaela> Yes
[18:13] <holstein> Mikaela: let them know whats happening with it.. its a preview version
[18:13] <Mikaela> Do you know any other Spotifys for Linux desktop than the preview?
[18:14] <Mikaela> I cannot see any button for sending feedback anywhere.
[18:14] <holstein> Mikaela: they (spotify) only offer that, AFAIK
[18:14] <Mikaela> And why is that tagged as gnome, I said that I am using Lubuntu.
[18:15] <holstein> Mikaela: i mean, if its a preview version, its likely the issue..
[18:15] <holstein> Mikaela: tagged as gnome?
[18:15] <Mikaela> Please link me to non-preview version and I will try it.
[18:15] <Mikaela> askubuntu question, fixed.
[18:15] <holstein> Mikaela: https://www.spotify.com/us/download/previews/
[18:16] <holstein> Mikaela: there is no "non-preview" https://www.spotify.com/us/download/other/
[18:16] <Mikaela> holstein: I cannot see any other versions than "preview" there.
[18:16] <holstein> Mikaela: there is officially supported windows
[18:16] <Mikaela> holstein: Why are you asking me to install non-preview versioin then?
[18:16] <holstein> Mikaela: correct.. there are *no* versions provided for you for the operating system youa re using
[18:16] <holstein> Mikaela: im not
[18:16] <holstein> Mikaela: im suggesting that you are using a preview version, and should expect beta performance
[18:17] <Mikaela> I can also use the stale version with WINE of course, but I don't like the sound of this computer when it's using 500% of CPU...
[18:18] <holstein> Mikaela: thats the windows version.. its not made for linux
[18:18] <holstein> Mikaela: there is nothing about lubuntu/ubuntu or linux that are preventing spotify from working
[18:19] <holstein> Mikaela: you can try the usual.. remove configs from user /home, and see if its an issue with the config.. you can try launching from the terminal, and see if any helpful error message show
[18:19] <Mikaela> holstein: I am sure that I am not the only person experiencing this. Do you use Spotify for any device (not web) byuthe way?
[18:19] <holstein> Mikaela: otherewise, its really the reponsibility of spotify to provide support for the projects they create
[18:20] <Mikaela> holstein: I removed config, same issue. Have you seen Skype providing so much support either?
[18:22] <holstein> Mikaela: its not really up to the operating system to faciliate the running of the 3rd party applications, though
[18:22] <holstein> Mikaela: you can, and should file a bug, and try and get someone upstream involved, as well as getting someone else to confirm the issue
[18:23] <Mikaela> holstein: I think that Ask Ubuntu can help provide others to confirm the issue and Spotify doesn't list any feedback or report bug links anywhere that I can see.
[18:23] <holstein> Mikaela: sure. you can make one
[18:24] <holstein> !bug
[18:24] <Mikaela> holstein: Spotify isn't in Ubuntu repositories, so I cannot really use ubuntu-bug.
[18:24] <holstein> Mikaela: though, it will still be most helpful for the creators of the product to provide support
[18:24] <holstein> Mikaela: sure.. thats what i mean by involving someone from upstream.. from spotify
[18:24] <holstein> Mikaela: its just not officially supporting linux, so, you should expect some wrinkles
[18:25] <Mikaela> holstein: And how do I do that? I still cannot find any links anywhere, only request for sending feedback.
[18:25] <holstein> Mikaela: the !bug link above
[18:25] <holstein> Mikaela: you create a bug there, if there is not one.. then, try and get someone to confirm that they are also experiencing the same thing
[18:25] <Mikaela> holstein: Which part of it?
[18:26] <Mikaela> holstein: As far as I know, it's not allowed to open bug reports against Ubuntu for packages that aren't in Ubuntu or don't have anything to do with Ubuntu officially.
[18:26] <holstein> http://community.spotify.com/ would be where i would start for upstream support
[18:26] <holstein> Mikaela: its?
[18:26] <holstein> Mikaela: you do. you open whatever bug you like, if you dont find one
[18:27] <holstein> Mikaela: first step for me would be getting it confirmed. and i would be glad to do that, but it will be many hours from now
[18:27]  * Mikaela consults #ubuntu-bugs and does that tomorrow.
[18:28] <Mikaela> !logs
[18:28] <holstein> Mikaela: sure.. if you can stay logged here, and remind me, i will confirm that issue with yuo
[18:36] <Mikaela> holstein:
[18:36] <Mikaela> 21:35:35 < rbasak> Mikaela: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages. But for a package to enter Ubuntu, it must be Free Software, have source availalbe, and so on. I'm not sure Spotify qualifies.
[18:36] <Mikaela> 21:35:52 < Mikaela> Spotify doesn't qualify.
[18:42] <bix_nood> Hey guys i have a dilemma.
[18:42] <bix_nood> Does LXDE fall behind desktop environment such as XFCE in some category?
[18:43] <bix_nood> I'm using XFCE on debian stable, my laptop is kinda old and i consider switching to something even more lightweight.
[18:44] <bix_nood> And i'm afraid it's going to lack some certain features i don't know which yet.
[18:46] <Mikaela> I haven't noticed any missing features and you can have them both installed at the same time.
[19:01] <bix_nood> i would like to avoid that, but thanks.
[19:01] <bix_nood> I like the fact that my printer actually works on ubuntu.
[19:02] <bix_nood> God damned HP and their laserjets.
[19:06] <ianorlin> aren't all printers annoying?
[19:06] <ianorlin> although with lubuntu you may need to install hplip
[19:08] <bix_nood> well cups (or gutenprint?) printed test page without problems.
[19:08] <bix_nood> But yeah i noticed that there's no hplip on my liveusb system.
[19:09] <bix_nood> hplip on debian is a horror.
[19:09] <bix_nood> hp-check told me i lack like 60% of dependencies.
[19:09] <tlosm> hi all
[19:10] <tlosm> Some Lubuntu PPC developer here ?
[19:31] <bix_nood> hey there m8, sorry i can't personally help.
[19:34] <tlosm> no i dont need help i just need to report :P
[19:35] <silverlion> tlosm: report (for) what?
[19:36] <tlosm> bix_nood:  i wrote on ubuntu forum 4 day ago a good news ... I have my Quad G5 running Lubuntu 14.04 PPC
[19:36] <tlosm> but on a RadeonHD Pcie Video Board not on Apple Video Board :P
[19:36] <silverlion> tlosm: that is indeed good news
[19:37] <tlosm> silverlion: ... all the older release dont work on Quad G5
[19:38] <tlosm> for make it work i put an X86 RadeonHD in couple with my X1900
[19:38] <tlosm> pratically i have 2 video board on my G5 right now
[19:38] <tlosm> Silverion but much need to be fixed
[19:39] <tlosm> cat /proc/cpuinfo gave me wrong cpu type and L2 memory and Machine
[19:39] <silverlion> tlosm: i would be glad to get more info about your efforts so that we maybe can put together a "how-to" for that
[19:41] <tlosm> silverion i dint nothing special , just have a idea and test it ... and have a positive result ... i can say for sure lubuntu is the only one Linux distro working in Quad G5 without any "geek things"
[19:42] <tlosm> silverlion: check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221421 <-- i put all my experience and all the strange happenings
[19:43] <tlosm> there is on G5 the same problem who afflict the X1000 Aeon ... glx gave wrong color , but isnt a big problem because i thing can be simple fixed in future
[19:43] <tlosm> thing = think
[19:45] <tlosm> in any way i can say for sure thanks to Lubuntu the G5 Quad can be upgraded with a newest video board :-)
[19:46] <silverlion> ;)
[19:46] <silverlion> tlosm: thank you for this ... I've passed on the link you gave to the developers mailing-list
[19:46] <silverlion> ;)
[19:47] <tlosm> thank you , i shared the forum in apple support and in the macpowerpc Fb group and macpro powermac users on facebook too.. all are start upgrading their machine ... guys here all will install ubuntu for go upgraded :P
[19:52] <tlosm> thanks for everything ... i will continue report problems in the ubuntu forum ;)
[19:52] <tlosm> ciao Luigi
[20:00] <comics_idees> well i tried to install flashplugin-nonfree but instead it installed flashplugin-installer
[20:00] <comics_idees> and the videos dont play very well in youtube
[20:00] <comics_idees> I forced html5
[20:01] <comics_idees> still some problems
[20:01] <comics_idees> in youtube videos
[20:02] <comics_idees> what should I install to have better video playback in youtube
[20:17] <silverlion> comics_idees: are you running lubuntu?
[20:17] <comics_idees> yes
[20:17] <comics_idees> and have some problems in youtube videos
[20:18] <silverlion> comics_idees: i have installed the "ubuntu-restricted-packages" and no probs with youtube videos
[20:18] <comics_idees> I install it with sudo?
[20:19] <comics_idees> ubuntu-restricted-packages is the same with ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[20:19] <silverlion> comics_idees: have a look at the synaptic package manager
[20:19] <silverlion> comics_idees: yes
[20:19] <comics_idees> ok
[20:20] <comics_idees> I try to find them
[20:48] <A3> Hi, I was wondering if Lubuntu includes Zeitgeist or any other invasive software that is bundled with standard Ubuntu?
[20:48] <silverlion> holstein: ping
[20:48] <silverlion> hey A3
[20:48] <silverlion> ;)
[20:51] <A3> ah hey
[20:51] <A3> yea, i wanna switch over from ubuntu but part of that reason is all the bloatware and spyware
[20:51] <A3> just wanna make sure lubuntu has its priorities straight
[21:15] <holstein> silverlion: pong
[21:16] <silverlion> holstein: thanks for responding. I needed your help with [22:51] <A3> yea, i wanna switch over from ubuntu but part of that reason is all the bloatware and spyware
[21:16] <holstein> Mikaela: correct.. spotify is *not* an ubuntu supported product.. but, you can file a bug for it.. and should, if you want any attention for it
[21:16] <silverlion> holstein: and the question [22:48] <A3> Hi, I was wondering if Lubuntu includes Zeitgeist or any other invasive software that is bundled with standard Ubuntu?
[21:17] <holstein> silverlion: i always just link http://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why for that
[21:17] <holstein> if someone wants to remove it, they can..
[21:17] <silverlion> holstein: thank you ... I'll pass that link on when the questions comes up again ;)
[21:18] <holstein> silverlion: otherwise, it gets into gray areas, or opinion
[21:18] <holstein> it is what it is.. if the user doesnt want it, thats how to remove it.. you know?
[21:18] <silverlion> holstein: I know
[21:18] <holstein> silverlion: otherwise.. all is well?
[21:19] <silverlion> but as i am not a supporter normally I wanted the two of you to get in touch
[21:19] <silverlion> holstein: i dont get your question
[21:19] <silverlion> ^^
[21:19] <holstein> silverlion: you are well? doing ok?
[21:20] <silverlion> holstein: my head has to much to think about at the moment
[21:20] <holstein> silverlion: no worries.. you can handle it, im sure :)
[21:20] <silverlion> holstein: tbh I am not sure if i am the right person for TL
[21:20] <holstein> TL?
[21:21] <silverlion> team leader
[21:21] <silverlion> holstein: see http://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms
[21:23] <holstein> silverlion: nah.. you'll be fine :)
[21:27] <comics_idees> today was a very bad day
[21:27] <comics_idees> I could not fix video
[21:27] <comics_idees> for chrome
[21:28] <comics_idees> I downloaded some plugins
[21:28] <comics_idees> but all had problems
[21:28] <holstein> you shouldnt need pluging for chrome to "fix" video
[21:29] <silverlion> holstein: fyi: recommended ubuntu-restricted-extras to him
[21:29] <holstein> the quality of your day shouldnt hang on using software on hardware that has promised support for another operating system ;)
[21:29] <holstein> comics_idees: you should determine if this is flash related, then, use the most current version of flash to test
[21:30] <comics_idees> it says I have the most current version of flash installed
[21:30] <holstein> comics_idees: you can do this easily from chrome.. and test with https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[21:30] <holstein> comics_idees: sure, but *is* it flash content?
[21:31] <comics_idees> it is youtube
[21:31] <holstein> if not, flash wont matter.. it could be content that is not intented to, nor attempting to support linux
[21:31] <holstein> comics_idees: you should try as the guest user, and consider a live CD
[21:31] <holstein> comics_idees: i literally have out of the box support for all content on youtube
[21:31] <holstein> comics_idees: consider https://www.youtube.com/html5
[21:32] <holstein> ^ you can opt into html5 content with a checkbox
[21:32] <holstein> *where available
[21:33] <comics_idees> I tried html5 but still no good playback
[21:33] <holstein> comics_idees: "good" ?
[21:34] <comics_idees> I mean a watch-able video
[21:34] <holstein> comics_idees: your hardware should be capable.. and your mind should be open to "wrinkles"
[21:34] <comics_idees> what are wrinkles
[21:34] <comics_idees> my hardware is capable
[21:34] <holstein> comics_idees: potentially poor performance
[21:39] <comics_idees> I think it will must be something I must activate or deactivate in chrome so it will not cause problems to youtube videos
[21:39] <holstein> comics_idees: sure. but, i disagree
[21:40] <comics_idees> or some additional codecs missing
[21:40] <holstein> comics_idees: there is nothing in chrome, or linux, or ubuntu blocking you from youtube.. i needed not to activate nor deactivate
[21:40] <holstein> comics_idees: its flash.. you have flash.. plus, you are trying to bypass with html5..
[21:40] <holstein> comics_idees: i have had issues on hardware that is both old, and/or, not well supported giving poor performance with youtube
[21:41] <comics_idees> maybe I should change the flash version
[21:41] <holstein> but, youtube doenst promise that level of support and coverage
[21:41] <holstein> comics_idees: you are not using flash, correct? you are using html5?
[21:41] <comics_idees> I used both flash and html5
[21:41] <holstein> comics_idees: so undo your html5 preference, try as the guest user, and/or a live CD
[21:42] <holstein> confirm your flash version is the latest available to you with https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[21:42] <comics_idees> ok I will try to check it
[21:44] <holstein> comics_idees: try it.. now https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[21:44] <holstein> i have 13,0,0,206
[21:45] <holstein> do you?