[01:14] <Skeewiff> Hi guys
[01:15] <Skeewiff> I was wondering if its possible to switch from ubuntu 14.04 to ubuntu-gnome 14.04 without having to reinstall everything
[09:38] <darkxst> ricotz, hi
[10:06] <ricotz> darkxst, hi
[10:07] <darkxst> ricotz, any thoughts on what to do with g-s-d/g-c-c on gnome3/trusty?
[10:07] <darkxst> I'm going to skip 3.10 packages in utopic
[10:09] <ricotz> darkxst, the conflict should be removed since it only concerns the gschema which you said are fixed?
[10:09] <ricotz> darkxst, is uptopic going for upower 0.99?
[10:10] <darkxst> ricotz, I expect so, sould probably check with pitti again though
[10:11] <darkxst> ricotz, I not really talking about the conflict, more its quite some effort to be maintaing 3 different branches of g-c-c/g-s-d!
[10:11] <darkxst> we could just leave it at g-c-c 3.8
[10:12] <darkxst> but there are a few corner case bugs around, from not having 3.10
[10:13] <ricotz> i see, if upower 0.99 will get into utopic, then 3.8 in trusty and 3.12 in utopic sounds reasonable
[10:19] <darkxst> yep, and I guess if did happen to get stuck at 3.10 in utopic, its easy to backport that trusty
[10:29] <c660> hi, what cause this intolerable delay when listing a share contents in nautilus?
[10:31] <darkxst> c660, slow network?
[10:32] <c660> network is slow indeed
[10:32] <c660> but the problem is it is very very slow in listing shared directory contents
[10:33] <darkxst> what sort of share?
[10:33] <c660> on windows the listing is snappy, though copying files is as slow as in ubuntu
[10:33] <mgedmin> is smbclient in a terminal faster?
[10:33] <c660> yes, in terminal it is much faster
[10:34] <c660> i am trying to integrate ubuntu in our work environment, but this slowness in nautilus really embarrassing
[10:35] <darkxst> c660, my guess is it would be a bug in gvfs-backends, so file a bug against that
[10:36] <c660> mentioning gvfs, sometimes the daemon eats up cpu power and leaves the system unusable
[10:37] <darkxst> c660, you should file that too then!
[10:38] <c660> for that i setup a cifs mount on start up, the situation is slightly better but still nautilus is too slow to list files in the mounted share
[10:38] <c660> i am on ubuntu 14.04 32bit
[10:39] <darkxst> probably not nautilus actually causing the slowness though
[10:40] <c660> anybody ever experienced this?
[10:40] <c660> slow share access through nautilus gvfs
[10:41] <darkxst> no
[10:41] <mgedmin> no windows machines in lan == no cifs shares
[10:42] <darkxst> same here basically, I have cifs shares but rarely use them! but I also have fast networks ;)
[10:42] <c660> there is a shared folder on mac osx, windows machines access them fast and quick, ubuntu struggle with that
[10:43] <darkxst> c660, try set up a samba share on a linux box and see if you still get the same problem
[10:43] <c660> i will consider that
[10:44] <c660> my life with be much easier if only nautilus can list files fast enough
[10:44] <darkxst> c660, no you should test it! bugs only get solved when they have enough info
[10:45] <c660> i have seen many bug reports about people pointing fingers at nautilus as the culprit
[10:45] <darkxst> it might happen to be something in the mac osx implementation doesn't get along with gvfs, in which case you would have just narrowed things down to about 1% of you original question
[10:45] <darkxst> its not nautilus, that just mounts the volume via gvfs afaik
[10:46] <c660> i have also tried nemo, not much improvement in speed
[10:46] <mgedmin> there are command-line tools that use gvfs
[10:47] <mgedmin> trying to see if they're slow can also maybe narrow down the culprit
[10:47] <c660> well, smbclient is fast enough, but i want people here use the GUI
[10:48] <c660> they're moving from windows to ubuntu
[10:49] <c660> and i am stumbled on nautilus not behaving good enough
[10:51] <c660> even accessing shared folders from smartphones is fast and snappy
[10:53] <darkxst> c660, thats not really the point if you can supply a small test-case at what cause the bug its far more likely to get fixed
[10:53] <darkxst> although as it is we don't really have much to do with gvfs, that is maintained by Canonical
[10:56] <c660> as i mentioned before, the network is usually slow. I am trying to list about 1000 items from a remote folder by using nautilus. It takes  nautilus about 20 seconds to to list the contents, where as it takes like 3 seconds or so
[10:57] <c660> for now i don't care much about net speed, i only want listing to be as fast as in windows
[10:58] <darkxst> c660, generic info like that doesn't really help
[10:58] <c660> darkxst, how can i be more specific? what other variables should i include?
[10:59] <darkxst> what is the smb server would be a good start!
[10:59] <darkxst> does it happen with windows, samba servers or only macosx
[10:59] <darkxst> etc. etc.
[11:00] <c660> samba version is 3.0.25b-apple
[11:00] <darkxst> c660, no don't tell me, put it in your bug report ;)
[11:01] <c660> the shares are all on mac
[11:02] <c660> well, i have seen similar bug reports but there were no satisfactory solution
[11:02] <darkxst> c660, run `ubuntu-bug gvfs-backends` and start typing you details!
[11:05] <darkxst> c660, many generic reports get ignored by dev's because there is not enough info!
[11:06] <c660> thanks, i iwill get back to here later for further info