| shauno | that doesn't sound like a good idea | 00:22 |
|---|---|---|
| shauno | this is workable, http://eric.lubow.org/2010/system-administration/creating-dummy-packages-on-debian/ | 00:22 |
| shauno | but "danger, will robinson" etc | 00:23 |
| daftykins | :D | 00:24 |
| daftykins | hmm these Digital Ocean VPSs seem cheap | 00:24 |
| daftykins | anyone given them a whirl? | 00:24 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: they come highly recommended in Django circles. | 00:30 |
| Azelphur | I've seen a few people recommend them | 00:30 |
| daftykins | neat | 00:30 |
| daftykins | 2TB data is a lot more than bigv's 300GB/mo | 00:31 |
| daftykins | and $10 vs. £10 | 00:31 |
| daftykins | but which i may get next, i don't know :) | 00:37 |
| daftykins | nn all \o | 00:50 |
| Aalex | hi | 02:06 |
| Aalex | How to install a WIFI driver and AMD graphic card driver?? | 02:10 |
| Aalex | In ubuntu 12.04?? | 02:10 |
| Aalex | hmm | 02:14 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 06:04 |
| mapps | morning | 06:09 |
| mapps | watching 24 s9e1 :D | 06:09 |
| Myrtti | they still make it? | 06:17 |
| mapps | came back last night | 06:19 |
| mapps | 2hr premiere | 06:19 |
| MooDoo | yeah i've recorded it, not watched it. | 06:27 |
| mapps | recorded? | 06:32 |
| mapps | oh | 06:32 |
| mapps | it aired at 1am on sky ?! | 06:32 |
| mapps | i thought it waa a day late | 06:32 |
| bashrc | morning | 07:00 |
| MooDoo | morning bashrc | 07:01 |
| MooDoo | people phoning in sick, day after bank hol....hmmmmmmmm | 07:03 |
| MartijnVdS | well there is a flu going around | 07:04 |
| MooDoo | http://ubuntu.technology/planet-ubuntu-technology/ - would this be of interest? | 07:09 |
| bashrc | hangovers perhaps | 07:11 |
| mapps | jacks having his worst day AGAIN | 07:15 |
| mapps | :D | 07:15 |
| MooDoo | 4 one now? lol | 07:16 |
| mapps | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2621125/Sandwiches-skies-Melbourne-pop-restaurant-Jafflechutes-float-toasted-cheese-sandwiches-hungry-customers-parachute.html | 07:17 |
| mapps | lol | 07:17 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy No Homework Day - my boys will be thrilled! :-D | 07:59 |
| diddledan | allo allo | 08:13 |
| MooDoo | howdy | 08:14 |
| MooDoo | howdy JamesTait | 08:14 |
| MooDoo | no homework day? | 08:14 |
| diddledan | I thought that was yesterday :-p | 08:15 |
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| foobarry | is that the same as no work from home day? | 08:21 |
| diddledan | foobarry, I hope so | 08:21 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:29 |
| vishnu | i dunno if this is the right place for help. but i need help urgently. I accidentally opted "erase everything" wile installing Ubuntu in MacBook via refit. forced shutdown immediately and my old ext partition is safe. need to get data out of it | 08:32 |
| MooDoo | can you take the drive out and put it in a usb caddy then attach it to another machine? | 08:35 |
| daubers | Morning | 08:36 |
| daubers | What open source router firmware are people using these days? | 08:37 |
| MooDoo | daubers: standard asus for me | 08:37 |
| daubers | MooDoo: I want to do 3g failover, but routers with that in the standard firmware are $$$$$$ | 08:37 |
| MooDoo | oh right... | 08:38 |
| daubers | Having said that, 3g contracts all appear to be rubbish | 08:38 |
| * awilkins uses OpenWRT | 08:44 | |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ openwrt | 08:44 |
| awilkins | But I'm using quite an old version because I have ancient, creaking router hardware from the previous decade | 08:44 |
| awilkins | The new versions look much easier to configure | 08:44 |
| MartijnVdS | Yeah the web interface is OK now | 08:45 |
| MartijnVdS | though i still prefer vimming in /etc/config/* | 08:45 |
| awilkins | Oh, yeah, I don't even install the web thing | 08:45 |
| awilkins | Why waste RAM, flash, and open a potential security hole? | 08:45 |
| diplo | daubers, we've used the Drayteks at work for dongle internet support | 08:48 |
| diplo | Qorks quite well | 08:48 |
| daubers | diplo: Ta, I shall have a look | 08:52 |
| daubers | looks like my router might support it internally, but looks like my isp has disabled it | 08:54 |
| daubers | wonder if I can re-enable it | 08:55 |
| diddledan | isp routers don't usually support anything. at all. | 08:55 |
| awilkins | Mum's supports dynamic DNS stuff | 08:55 |
| awilkins | Not sure what else it does | 08:56 |
| awilkins | My ISP router is in dumb modem mode though | 08:56 |
| diddledan | dyndns no longer exists - it's dyn.com now and they don't do freebie dynamic names anymore | 08:56 |
| awilkins | I changed to duckdns.org | 08:57 |
| popey | Morning all | 08:57 |
| awilkins | Dyndns killed off my account by doing that 30-day expiry thing on me | 08:57 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: they stopped offering free accounts too | 08:57 |
| MooDoo | awilkins: didn't you get the monthly email? | 08:58 |
| daubers | Morning popey | 08:58 |
| MooDoo | oh scrap that. | 08:58 |
| awilkins | MartijnVdS, yeah, they stopped ages ago but I had a really old one grandfathered in ; I got the monthly emails but I missed one. And they just closed all the free accounts shortly afterwards anyway. | 08:58 |
| diddledan | "popeypopeypopey aah aah aah aah" | 08:58 |
| diddledan | (ruby ruby ruby clone) | 08:59 |
| daubers | Hah magic :) | 08:59 |
| MooDoo | It's a kind of magic! | 09:00 |
| daubers | The web ui has it turned off, but its there in the telnet ui | 09:00 |
| daubers | Just need to find a decent dongle/deal now | 09:02 |
| diddledan | you have a telnet interface? | 09:03 |
| diddledan | 1) that's oldskool, 2) securemuch?! | 09:03 |
| daubers | diddledan: It's firewall locked to the lan, not the wan | 09:04 |
| daubers | This is a home router :) | 09:04 |
| daubers | diddledan: Pretty much all the thompson routers have one afaik | 09:05 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:07 |
| diddledan | girls? where?! | 09:08 |
| * diddledan tidies his hair | 09:08 | |
| DJones | !girls | 09:08 |
| lubotu3 | Girls exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | http://www.xkcd.com/322/ | For more interesting reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ | 09:08 |
| * diddledan sucks in the belly | 09:08 | |
| DJones | diddledan: Breathe, your turning blue | 09:08 |
| brobostigon | lol. | 09:08 |
| diddledan | lol @ the xkcd | 09:10 |
| awilkins | telnet, ew | 09:11 |
| popey | yeah, dyndns did the same trick to me | 09:11 |
| popey | now using afraid.org | 09:11 |
| awilkins | Router only has SSH with PK auth | 09:11 |
| awilkins | When it had password auth switched on it used to get constantly attacked | 09:12 |
| awilkins | (I have to have the SSH daemon listen on the standard port because explaining to the networks team that you want a non-standard port opened on the firewall is like punching fog) | 09:13 |
| diddledan | denyhosts | 09:13 |
| awilkins | Yeah, I had fail2ban or something like it running on it for a while | 09:13 |
| brobostigon | i use fail2ban. | 09:13 |
| MartijnVdS | fail2ban is fun | 09:14 |
| MartijnVdS | it can read apache logs too | 09:14 |
| diddledan | I like how easy it is to lock yourself out | 09:14 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: not if you use SSH with keys :) | 09:14 |
| diplo | popey, I couldn't get afraid.org to update with ddclient, how do you update yours ? | 09:14 |
| awilkins | It's actually pretty difficult if you're using SSH with PK auth | 09:14 |
| brobostigon | and dovecot and loads of others. | 09:14 |
| awilkins | Because the client checks your password rather than the server | 09:14 |
| diddledan | *enters correct password* fail *enters alternative password* fail *enters correct password again* blocked *realise using wrong username* | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: ~/.ssh/config + ssh keys FTW :) | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | stuff like: | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | Host home | 09:15 |
| diddledan | yeah, ssh keys are awesome | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | HostName hostname_of_home_machine | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | User my_username_at_home | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 09:15 |
| popey | diplo: my DD-WRT router supports it. | 09:16 |
| diplo | heh, I really must buy a decent router :) | 09:17 |
| diddledan | bash scripting ftw: for i in *.jpg; do file=$(echo $i | cut -d. -f1); mv $i $file-bg.jpg; done | 09:20 |
| shauno | why not just mv $i ${i/.jpg/-bg.jpg} ? | 09:22 |
| diddledan | o_O | 09:24 |
| awilkins | why not just `rename 's/\.jpg/-bg\.jpg/' *.jpg ? | 09:25 |
| shauno | or ${i%.jpg}-bg.jpg if you're worried that .jpg might show up more than once in the filename. but I prefer how readable the straight substitution is | 09:25 |
| awilkins | !man rename | 09:25 |
| awilkins | There's a perl script for rename in the default install AFAIK `man rename` | 09:26 |
| awilkins | And my regex above is wrong | 09:26 |
| awilkins | Ok, no it isn't | 09:26 |
| awilkins | Bah, regex | 09:26 |
| shauno | I like bash's substitutions because I can use/abuse them everywhere | 09:27 |
| awilkins | shauno, Thanks for teaching me a new trick, anyway | 09:32 |
| shauno | there's a whole set of them, if you search for %% in the bash manpage it'll find them | 09:32 |
| shauno | eg, ${i^} will capitalize $i, ${i^^} block-caps the whole thing, instead of trying to remember the only thing you ever use 'tr' for | 09:34 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: 'tr' isn't hard though.. tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M :) | 09:35 |
| MartijnVdS | boom, crypto! | 09:36 |
| diddledan | o_O | 09:36 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: that's rot13. Best crypto evar. | 09:36 |
| diddledan | aah | 09:36 |
| MartijnVdS | (every letter in the range "a-z" is mapped to the range "n-z, then a-m", i.e. the alphabet, rotated 13 letters :) | 09:37 |
| BigRedS_ | I don't think I've ever used tr for capitalisation, it's normally for converting between linebreaks and spaces | 09:42 |
| shauno | tr [:upper:] [:lower:] is about all I remember ever using it for | 09:43 |
| BigRedS_ | ah, I don't recall ever having had to do that, actually | 09:48 |
| DJones | Arghh, its Eurovision week agai | 09:58 |
| DJones | n | 09:58 |
| MooDoo | yay!!! eurovision party | 09:59 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:59 |
| DJones | MooDoo: Yay sleeping pills party | 09:59 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: hello | 10:00 |
| * MooDoo stabs davmor2 only because he's not see czajkows1i do it lately | 10:02 | |
| * diddledan stabs davmor2 only because he's jealous | 10:06 | |
| diddledan | when in rome | 10:07 |
| MooDoo | hail davmor2 | 10:07 |
| diddledan | stab davmor2 ! | 10:07 |
| daubers | diddledan: Do as the snamor? | 10:08 |
| MooDoo | !stab | 10:08 |
| MooDoo | rats | 10:08 |
| diddledan | daubers: snamor? | 10:08 |
| MartijnVdS | ♫ mr stabby | 10:08 |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 10:08 |
| daubers | diddledan: When in emor do as the snamor | 10:08 |
| diddledan | o_O | 10:08 |
| daubers | diddledan: Red Dwarf reference fail :-( | 10:09 |
| diddledan | oh, nodnol | 10:09 |
| daubers | :) | 10:09 |
| diddledan | I forget which country nodnol is in now | 10:10 |
| davmor2 | When in Rome, kill Caesar they were stabbed regularly right :) | 10:10 |
| foobarry | has anyone been using copy.com in anger? | 10:13 |
| foobarry | need to migrate my ubuntu one | 10:13 |
| MartijnVdS | I prefer xcopy.exe | 10:14 |
| foobarry | lolz | 10:14 |
| foobarry | MartijnVdS: did you see the doge sponsored nascar? | 10:14 |
| awilkins | I still use Dropbox because I have a free account with > 9GB space | 10:14 |
| awilkins | And I only use about 3.5GB of it | 10:14 |
| foobarry | copy.com gives 20GB with referral link | 10:14 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: I saw a picture. | 10:14 |
| awilkins | What are the client programs like? | 10:14 |
| foobarry | android and linux | 10:14 |
| awilkins | Do they understand PAC scripts? | 10:15 |
| foobarry | linux has a tray gui like dropbox/owncloud | 10:15 |
| foobarry | awilkins: i dunno, what's a pac script | 10:15 |
| awilkins | Proxy Auto Config : small javascript program that browsers use to work out whether to use a proxy and which one | 10:15 |
| foobarry | not sure | 10:16 |
| awilkins | My main gripe with Ubuntu One was that it just completely ignored your system proxy settings and didn't have a proxy settings panel of it's own | 10:16 |
| awilkins | My main gripe with Dropbox is that it can't process a PAC script | 10:16 |
| foobarry | box.net sucks as it has no client, and the sftp connect sucked | 10:16 |
| foobarry | how would i tell the pac existability | 10:16 |
| awilkins | Look in the proxy settings and see if it will accept a "proxy auto config URL" or summat | 10:17 |
| awilkins | Like the "Automatic" setting in the OS does | 10:17 |
| awilkins | I have one that works out whether I'm on the home network or the office network and configures browsers accordingly | 10:18 |
| foobarry | proxy type auto detect | 10:19 |
| foobarry | or u can specify | 10:19 |
| awilkins | Auto Detect usually tries to get a PAC script from ... http://wpad/wpad.dat | 10:19 |
| awilkins | It's an MS thing | 10:19 |
| foobarry | i have options of auto/http/socks4/5/none | 10:20 |
| foobarry | option of url, port and user/pass | 10:20 |
| awilkins | Maybe no PAC script then | 10:20 |
| awilkins | Is the client open-source? | 10:20 |
| awilkins | Guess not, probably | 10:21 |
| foobarry | appears not. seems to be a closed qt app | 10:21 |
| brobostigon | is there something like androidify which will run on a normal computer insted of android? | 10:30 |
| foobarry | maybe some flash sites | 10:33 |
| foobarry | http://www.wiiplayable.com/playgame.php?gameid=157 | 10:33 |
| brobostigon | i shall have to install flash and try it. | 10:36 |
| foobarry | my wife has a jury summons although she's a full time mum of 2 kids | 10:49 |
| foobarry | anyone have experience with this? clearly not practical | 10:49 |
| MooDoo | foobarry: https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/overview | 10:50 |
| bashrc | someone got called to the jury? | 10:51 |
| MooDoo | foobarry: basically I think she'll have to do it. | 10:51 |
| foobarry | someone with very young children they are looking after and perhaps very elderly relatives and other onerous caring duties, or whose job would be severely affected and/or whose livelihood long-term could be jeopardised – such as the running of a small business – or someone who is ill. These people should make their circumstances known. | 10:51 |
| diddledan | foobarry, they wouldn't have me. I'm aparently not suitable for jury service because I'm a nutjob | 10:52 |
| bashrc | yes, under some circumstances I think you can get out of it | 10:52 |
| popey | I've never been asked | 10:52 |
| foobarry | 2 colleagues in a small office got asked in last few weeks | 10:52 |
| foobarry | now my wife. | 10:52 |
| foobarry | suspicious | 10:53 |
| bashrc | I've never been called | 10:53 |
| DJones | I got asked years ago, just wrote back and said that work committments that was planned and booked with clients for about 3 months ahead meant that I wouldn't be able to attend | 10:53 |
| shauno | I had no idea the UK did that. seems obvious in retrospect | 10:54 |
| diddledan | shauno, no idea uk did jury service? | 11:08 |
| shauno | correct | 11:08 |
| Myrtti | http://www.theguardian.com/law/shortcuts/2013/feb/21/10-things-jurors-need-to-know :-D | 11:14 |
| Myrtti | that's funny | 11:14 |
| Myrtti | "Revel in the fact you are embedded in a live, anthropological experiment, which will expose the deep-held prejudices and life-affirming sensitivities of those around you in equal measure." | 11:14 |
| bashrc | I suppose we could do away with juries and just have summary execution | 11:15 |
| bashrc | witch hunts, maybe | 11:16 |
| diddledan | judges a la dredd is the way forward | 11:16 |
| bashrc | with the amount of data available on people, autopolicing is a scary possibility | 11:17 |
| bashrc | i.e. no need for trial, it's all in the logs | 11:17 |
| shauno | sounds like a win to me. I'd trust the logs over my 'peers' | 11:17 |
| ali1234 | we need slap drones | 11:18 |
| bashrc | I wouldn't trust the logs at all. They can be easily changed | 11:18 |
| bashrc | drones which go around slapping people? | 11:18 |
| ali1234 | pretty much | 11:18 |
| bashrc | that would be amusing | 11:19 |
| foobarry | i want the ability to punch people in the face over the phone | 11:24 |
| foobarry | why is that not real thing yet | 11:24 |
| ali1234 | old school. i love how you said phone, not internet | 11:24 |
| foobarry | phone seems more phyiscal | 11:25 |
| foobarry | but delivering a punch via email is good too | 11:25 |
| bashrc | delivered via XMPP | 11:27 |
| foobarry | jabberwocky | 11:27 |
| diddledan | xml messaging punch protocol? | 11:27 |
| bashrc | jabberslap | 11:27 |
| foobarry | can you ftp some lunch to me too | 11:27 |
| * diddledan slaps bashrc with a wet trout | 11:28 | |
| shauno | heh, jabberslap I like .. xmppow! | 11:28 |
| bashrc | :) | 11:28 |
| diddledan | hungry | 11:29 |
| diddledan | what can I eat? | 11:29 |
| shauno | http://soylent.me/ | 11:31 |
| diddledan | shauno, but it's not green | 11:34 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: kippers are better they smell more | 11:35 |
| MooDoo | smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast | 11:38 |
| diddledan | surely it's "stoke me a clipper", no? | 11:44 |
| MooDoo | don't think so, then again, not sure. | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: no | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you are rigth | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | right even | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: I've definitely heard smoke me a kipper I'll be back for breakfast. It may be a play on stoke me a clipper though | 11:48 |
| ali1234 | The name "Stoke Me A Clipper" came from Ace Rimmer's catch phrase, "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast", but because of Rimmer's incompetence he says it wrong and it comes out as the title. | 11:49 |
| MooDoo | smoke me a kipper is from blackadder, flash by name and flash by nature, treat your woman like you treat your kite [plane] get in her 5 times a day and take her to heaven and back. | 11:49 |
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| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g2ly3ssd97jyo0/IMG_20140506_143128.jpg | 13:36 |
| * daftykins whistles | 13:36 | |
| diddledan_ | pervert | 13:36 |
| daftykins | 0o | 13:37 |
| daftykins | time to grab a late lunch, then get registering all of these | 13:37 |
| daftykins | my enclosure didn't arrive yet though ;_; | 13:37 |
| MartijnVdS | initialize the RAID disk by disk | 13:39 |
| MartijnVdS | then swap them like floppies | 13:40 |
| MartijnVdS | "Please insert disk 4" | 13:40 |
| MartijnVdS | "Please insert disk 6" | 13:40 |
| MartijnVdS | "Please insert disk 2" | 13:40 |
| MartijnVdS | "Please insert disk 3" | 13:40 |
| daftykins | i feel compelled to see that sequence completed | 13:43 |
| daftykins | ;D | 13:43 |
| awilkins | "RAID corruption : REDO from start." | 13:45 |
| popey | R: TAPE LOADING ERROR | 13:45 |
| daftykins | popey: was memtest clean? | 13:46 |
| popey | yup | 13:46 |
| popey | switched back to chromium for a bit | 13:46 |
| daftykins | ho-hum | 13:46 |
| popey | indeed | 13:46 |
| popey | gonna try chromium for a week, see if I get a crash | 13:50 |
| daftykins | heh, a friend is headed to the isle of man for work, a taxi driver on the way up toward Manchester apparently told him he can bin his sunglasses 'cause he won't be needing them | 14:49 |
| awilkins | Someone set the weather knob to "damn gorgeous" - reckless behaviour, there'll be none left at the weekend. | 15:02 |
| daftykins | not seeing much over here | 15:02 |
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| Myrtti | https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/64629 X-D | 16:40 |
| xplora1a | does this apply to the python apps that are pie related? | 17:07 |
| popey | mmmm pi | 17:10 |
| popey | also pie | 17:10 |
| daftykins | 1.5 pie | 17:14 |
| diddledan_ | -_- | 17:57 |
| diddledan_ | pie | 17:57 |
| diddledan_ | my nanna insists on calling things pies when they're clerely tarts | 17:58 |
| diddledan_ | clearly* | 17:58 |
| diddledan_ | https://gist.github.com/af1e70513ae295d1ae16.git \o/ for quick n dirty scripts | 20:35 |
| diddledan_ | in other news, how fast is my mirror? http://148.251.91.163/ubuntu-releases/ | 20:37 |
| diddledan_ | it's lightning quick to load - but there isn't anyone accessing it | 20:37 |
| shauno | 403'ing all the trusty isos probably keeps the load nice and low ;) | 20:56 |
| diddledan_ | o_O | 20:57 |
| diddledan_ | hmm, why are those 403? | 21:01 |
| diddledan_ | there we go. fixed | 21:02 |
| shauno | that's better | 21:03 |
| mapps | easy win eh | 22:08 |
| mapps | 3-1 utd | 22:08 |
| diddledan_ | \o/? | 22:08 |
| mapps | :) | 22:10 |
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