[00:22] that doesn't sound like a good idea [00:22] this is workable, http://eric.lubow.org/2010/system-administration/creating-dummy-packages-on-debian/ [00:23] but "danger, will robinson" etc [00:24] :D [00:24] hmm these Digital Ocean VPSs seem cheap [00:24] anyone given them a whirl? [00:30] daftykins: they come highly recommended in Django circles. [00:30] I've seen a few people recommend them [00:30] neat [00:31] 2TB data is a lot more than bigv's 300GB/mo [00:31] and $10 vs. £10 [00:37] but which i may get next, i don't know :) [00:50] nn all \o [02:06] hi [02:10] How to install a WIFI driver and AMD graphic card driver?? [02:10] In ubuntu 12.04?? [02:14] hmm [06:04] morning all [06:09] morning [06:09] watching 24 s9e1 :D [06:17] they still make it? [06:19] came back last night [06:19] 2hr premiere [06:27] yeah i've recorded it, not watched it. [06:32] recorded? [06:32] oh [06:32] it aired at 1am on sky ?! [06:32] i thought it waa a day late [07:00] morning [07:01] morning bashrc [07:03] people phoning in sick, day after bank hol....hmmmmmmmm [07:04] well there is a flu going around [07:09] http://ubuntu.technology/planet-ubuntu-technology/ - would this be of interest? [07:11] hangovers perhaps [07:15] jacks having his worst day AGAIN [07:15] :D [07:16] 4 one now? lol [07:17] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2621125/Sandwiches-skies-Melbourne-pop-restaurant-Jafflechutes-float-toasted-cheese-sandwiches-hungry-customers-parachute.html [07:17] lol [07:59] Good morning all; happy No Homework Day - my boys will be thrilled! :-D [08:13] allo allo [08:14] howdy [08:14] howdy JamesTait [08:14] no homework day? [08:15] I thought that was yesterday :-p === msm is now known as Guest46361 [08:21] is that the same as no work from home day? [08:21] foobarry, I hope so [08:29] Morning all [08:32] i dunno if this is the right place for help. but i need help urgently. I accidentally opted "erase everything" wile installing Ubuntu in MacBook via refit. forced shutdown immediately and my old ext partition is safe. need to get data out of it [08:35] can you take the drive out and put it in a usb caddy then attach it to another machine? [08:36] Morning [08:37] What open source router firmware are people using these days? [08:37] daubers: standard asus for me [08:37] MooDoo: I want to do 3g failover, but routers with that in the standard firmware are $$$$$$ [08:38] oh right... [08:38] Having said that, 3g contracts all appear to be rubbish [08:44] * awilkins uses OpenWRT [08:44] \o/ openwrt [08:44] But I'm using quite an old version because I have ancient, creaking router hardware from the previous decade [08:44] The new versions look much easier to configure [08:45] Yeah the web interface is OK now [08:45] though i still prefer vimming in /etc/config/* [08:45] Oh, yeah, I don't even install the web thing [08:45] Why waste RAM, flash, and open a potential security hole? [08:48] daubers, we've used the Drayteks at work for dongle internet support [08:48] Qorks quite well [08:52] diplo: Ta, I shall have a look [08:54] looks like my router might support it internally, but looks like my isp has disabled it [08:55] wonder if I can re-enable it [08:55] isp routers don't usually support anything. at all. [08:55] Mum's supports dynamic DNS stuff [08:56] Not sure what else it does [08:56] My ISP router is in dumb modem mode though [08:56] dyndns no longer exists - it's dyn.com now and they don't do freebie dynamic names anymore [08:57] I changed to duckdns.org [08:57] Morning all [08:57] Dyndns killed off my account by doing that 30-day expiry thing on me [08:57] awilkins: they stopped offering free accounts too [08:58] awilkins: didn't you get the monthly email? [08:58] Morning popey [08:58] oh scrap that. [08:58] MartijnVdS, yeah, they stopped ages ago but I had a really old one grandfathered in ; I got the monthly emails but I missed one. And they just closed all the free accounts shortly afterwards anyway. [08:58] "popeypopeypopey aah aah aah aah" [08:59] (ruby ruby ruby clone) [08:59] Hah magic :) [09:00] It's a kind of magic! [09:00] The web ui has it turned off, but its there in the telnet ui [09:02] Just need to find a decent dongle/deal now [09:03] you have a telnet interface? [09:03] 1) that's oldskool, 2) securemuch?! [09:04] diddledan: It's firewall locked to the lan, not the wan [09:04] This is a home router :) [09:05] diddledan: Pretty much all the thompson routers have one afaik [09:07] morning boys and girls. [09:08] girls? where?! [09:08] * diddledan tidies his hair [09:08] !girls [09:08] Girls exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | http://www.xkcd.com/322/ | For more interesting reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ [09:08] * diddledan sucks in the belly [09:08] diddledan: Breathe, your turning blue [09:08] lol. [09:10] lol @ the xkcd [09:11] telnet, ew [09:11] yeah, dyndns did the same trick to me [09:11] now using afraid.org [09:11] Router only has SSH with PK auth [09:12] When it had password auth switched on it used to get constantly attacked [09:13] (I have to have the SSH daemon listen on the standard port because explaining to the networks team that you want a non-standard port opened on the firewall is like punching fog) [09:13] denyhosts [09:13] Yeah, I had fail2ban or something like it running on it for a while [09:13] i use fail2ban. [09:14] fail2ban is fun [09:14] it can read apache logs too [09:14] I like how easy it is to lock yourself out [09:14] diddledan: not if you use SSH with keys :) [09:14] popey, I couldn't get afraid.org to update with ddclient, how do you update yours ? [09:14] It's actually pretty difficult if you're using SSH with PK auth [09:14] and dovecot and loads of others. [09:14] Because the client checks your password rather than the server [09:15] *enters correct password* fail *enters alternative password* fail *enters correct password again* blocked *realise using wrong username* [09:15] diddledan: ~/.ssh/config + ssh keys FTW :) [09:15] stuff like: [09:15] Host home [09:15] yeah, ssh keys are awesome [09:15] HostName hostname_of_home_machine [09:15] User my_username_at_home [09:15] \o/ [09:16] diplo: my DD-WRT router supports it. [09:17] heh, I really must buy a decent router :) [09:20] bash scripting ftw: for i in *.jpg; do file=$(echo $i | cut -d. -f1); mv $i $file-bg.jpg; done [09:22] why not just mv $i ${i/.jpg/-bg.jpg} ? [09:24] o_O [09:25] why not just `rename 's/\.jpg/-bg\.jpg/' *.jpg ? [09:25] or ${i%.jpg}-bg.jpg if you're worried that .jpg might show up more than once in the filename. but I prefer how readable the straight substitution is [09:25] !man rename [09:26] There's a perl script for rename in the default install AFAIK `man rename` [09:26] And my regex above is wrong [09:26] Ok, no it isn't [09:26] Bah, regex [09:27] I like bash's substitutions because I can use/abuse them everywhere [09:32] shauno, Thanks for teaching me a new trick, anyway [09:32] there's a whole set of them, if you search for %% in the bash manpage it'll find them [09:34] eg, ${i^} will capitalize $i, ${i^^} block-caps the whole thing, instead of trying to remember the only thing you ever use 'tr' for [09:35] shauno: 'tr' isn't hard though.. tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M :) [09:36] boom, crypto! [09:36] o_O [09:36] diddledan: that's rot13. Best crypto evar. [09:36] aah [09:37] (every letter in the range "a-z" is mapped to the range "n-z, then a-m", i.e. the alphabet, rotated 13 letters :) [09:42] I don't think I've ever used tr for capitalisation, it's normally for converting between linebreaks and spaces [09:43] tr [:upper:] [:lower:] is about all I remember ever using it for [09:48] ah, I don't recall ever having had to do that, actually [09:58] Arghh, its Eurovision week agai [09:58] n [09:59] yay!!! eurovision party [09:59] Morning all [09:59] MooDoo: Yay sleeping pills party [10:00] davmor2: hello [10:02] * MooDoo stabs davmor2 only because he's not see czajkows1i do it lately [10:06] * diddledan stabs davmor2 only because he's jealous [10:07] when in rome [10:07] hail davmor2 [10:07] stab davmor2 ! [10:08] diddledan: Do as the snamor? [10:08] !stab [10:08] rats [10:08] daubers: snamor? [10:08] ♫ mr stabby [10:08] ? [10:08] diddledan: When in emor do as the snamor [10:08] o_O [10:09] diddledan: Red Dwarf reference fail :-( [10:09] oh, nodnol [10:09] :) [10:10] I forget which country nodnol is in now [10:10] When in Rome, kill Caesar they were stabbed regularly right :) [10:13] has anyone been using copy.com in anger? [10:13] need to migrate my ubuntu one [10:14] I prefer xcopy.exe [10:14] lolz [10:14] MartijnVdS: did you see the doge sponsored nascar? [10:14] I still use Dropbox because I have a free account with > 9GB space [10:14] And I only use about 3.5GB of it [10:14] copy.com gives 20GB with referral link [10:14] foobarry: I saw a picture. [10:14] What are the client programs like? [10:14] android and linux [10:15] Do they understand PAC scripts? [10:15] linux has a tray gui like dropbox/owncloud [10:15] awilkins: i dunno, what's a pac script [10:15] Proxy Auto Config : small javascript program that browsers use to work out whether to use a proxy and which one [10:16] not sure [10:16] My main gripe with Ubuntu One was that it just completely ignored your system proxy settings and didn't have a proxy settings panel of it's own [10:16] My main gripe with Dropbox is that it can't process a PAC script [10:16] box.net sucks as it has no client, and the sftp connect sucked [10:16] how would i tell the pac existability [10:17] Look in the proxy settings and see if it will accept a "proxy auto config URL" or summat [10:17] Like the "Automatic" setting in the OS does [10:18] I have one that works out whether I'm on the home network or the office network and configures browsers accordingly [10:19] proxy type auto detect [10:19] or u can specify [10:19] Auto Detect usually tries to get a PAC script from ... http://wpad/wpad.dat [10:19] It's an MS thing [10:20] i have options of auto/http/socks4/5/none [10:20] option of url, port and user/pass [10:20] Maybe no PAC script then [10:20] Is the client open-source? [10:21] Guess not, probably [10:21] appears not. seems to be a closed qt app [10:30] is there something like androidify which will run on a normal computer insted of android? [10:33] maybe some flash sites [10:33] http://www.wiiplayable.com/playgame.php?gameid=157 [10:36] i shall have to install flash and try it. [10:49] my wife has a jury summons although she's a full time mum of 2 kids [10:49] anyone have experience with this? clearly not practical [10:50] foobarry: https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/overview [10:51] someone got called to the jury? [10:51] foobarry: basically I think she'll have to do it. [10:51] someone with very young children they are looking after and perhaps very elderly relatives and other onerous caring duties, or whose job would be severely affected and/or whose livelihood long-term could be jeopardised – such as the running of a small business – or someone who is ill. These people should make their circumstances known. [10:52] foobarry, they wouldn't have me. I'm aparently not suitable for jury service because I'm a nutjob [10:52] yes, under some circumstances I think you can get out of it [10:52] I've never been asked [10:52] 2 colleagues in a small office got asked in last few weeks [10:52] now my wife. [10:53] suspicious [10:53] I've never been called [10:53] I got asked years ago, just wrote back and said that work committments that was planned and booked with clients for about 3 months ahead meant that I wouldn't be able to attend [10:54] I had no idea the UK did that. seems obvious in retrospect [11:08] shauno, no idea uk did jury service? [11:08] correct [11:14] http://www.theguardian.com/law/shortcuts/2013/feb/21/10-things-jurors-need-to-know :-D [11:14] that's funny [11:14] "Revel in the fact you are embedded in a live, anthropological experiment, which will expose the deep-held prejudices and life-affirming sensitivities of those around you in equal measure." [11:15] I suppose we could do away with juries and just have summary execution [11:16] witch hunts, maybe [11:16] judges a la dredd is the way forward [11:17] with the amount of data available on people, autopolicing is a scary possibility [11:17] i.e. no need for trial, it's all in the logs [11:17] sounds like a win to me. I'd trust the logs over my 'peers' [11:18] we need slap drones [11:18] I wouldn't trust the logs at all. They can be easily changed [11:18] drones which go around slapping people? [11:18] pretty much [11:19] that would be amusing [11:24] i want the ability to punch people in the face over the phone [11:24] why is that not real thing yet [11:24] old school. i love how you said phone, not internet [11:25] phone seems more phyiscal [11:25] but delivering a punch via email is good too [11:27] delivered via XMPP [11:27] jabberwocky [11:27] xml messaging punch protocol? [11:27] jabberslap [11:27] can you ftp some lunch to me too [11:28] * diddledan slaps bashrc with a wet trout [11:28] heh, jabberslap I like .. xmppow! [11:28] :) [11:29] hungry [11:29] what can I eat? [11:31] http://soylent.me/ [11:34] shauno, but it's not green [11:35] diddledan: kippers are better they smell more [11:38] smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast [11:44] surely it's "stoke me a clipper", no? [11:47] don't think so, then again, not sure. [11:47] diddledan: no [11:47] MooDoo: you are rigth [11:47] right even [11:48] diddledan: I've definitely heard smoke me a kipper I'll be back for breakfast. It may be a play on stoke me a clipper though [11:49] The name "Stoke Me A Clipper" came from Ace Rimmer's catch phrase, "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast", but because of Rimmer's incompetence he says it wrong and it comes out as the title. [11:49] smoke me a kipper is from blackadder, flash by name and flash by nature, treat your woman like you treat your kite [plane] get in her 5 times a day and take her to heaven and back. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:36] https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g2ly3ssd97jyo0/IMG_20140506_143128.jpg [13:36] * daftykins whistles [13:36] pervert [13:37] 0o [13:37] time to grab a late lunch, then get registering all of these [13:37] my enclosure didn't arrive yet though ;_; [13:39] initialize the RAID disk by disk [13:40] then swap them like floppies [13:40] "Please insert disk 4" [13:40] "Please insert disk 6" [13:40] "Please insert disk 2" [13:40] "Please insert disk 3" [13:43] i feel compelled to see that sequence completed [13:43] ;D [13:45] "RAID corruption : REDO from start." [13:45] R: TAPE LOADING ERROR [13:46] popey: was memtest clean? [13:46] yup [13:46] switched back to chromium for a bit [13:46] ho-hum [13:46] indeed [13:50] gonna try chromium for a week, see if I get a crash [14:49] heh, a friend is headed to the isle of man for work, a taxi driver on the way up toward Manchester apparently told him he can bin his sunglasses 'cause he won't be needing them [15:02] Someone set the weather knob to "damn gorgeous" - reckless behaviour, there'll be none left at the weekend. [15:02] not seeing much over here === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:40] https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/64629 X-D [17:07] does this apply to the python apps that are pie related? [17:10] mmmm pi [17:10] also pie [17:14] 1.5 pie [17:57] -_- [17:57] pie [17:58] my nanna insists on calling things pies when they're clerely tarts [17:58] clearly* [20:35] https://gist.github.com/af1e70513ae295d1ae16.git \o/ for quick n dirty scripts [20:37] in other news, how fast is my mirror? http://148.251.91.163/ubuntu-releases/ [20:37] it's lightning quick to load - but there isn't anyone accessing it [20:56] 403'ing all the trusty isos probably keeps the load nice and low ;) [20:57] o_O [21:01] hmm, why are those 403? [21:02] there we go. fixed [21:03] that's better [22:08] easy win eh [22:08] 3-1 utd [22:08] \o/? [22:10] :) === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away