/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/05/06/#ubuntu-za.txt

bdukGood morning everyone04:39
theblazehenhi bduk 05:10
Kilosmorning all05:24
bdukSlaap ook ma lekker laat ne kilos05:26
Kiloshaha ya bduk maar ek is ouer so het n verskoning05:26
bdukNie veel ouer nie05:27
Kiloso ja05:27
Kilosheelwat05:27
bdukEk  staan ook ma net vroeg op omdat ek moet05:28
Kiloshi Spekko 05:51
Kiloslo jabberwocky93 05:51
Spekkomore kilos05:51
jabberwocky93more Kilos05:54
Spekkojabberwocky93 is maar stadig deesdae05:54
* jabberwocky93 slaps Spekko with a large trout05:54
Kiloshehe05:54
Kilosno one is immune to bad internet06:21
theblazehenMy internet is fast today :)06:22
theblazehenEish bitcoin price must go up soon06:23
theblazehenAs low as $420 this morning06:23
Kilosyou are right06:24
KilosDownload Speed: 7519 kbps (939.9 KB/sec transfer rate)06:25
KilosUpload Speed: 2700 kbps (337.5 KB/sec transfer rate)06:25
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:26
Kilosthey fixed something while we were sleeping06:26
theblazehenheh you have good speed Kilos 06:26
theblazehenmorning ThatGraemeGuy 06:26
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:26
Kiloshi who_da_fly something crashed06:47
Kilostheblazehen, can you explain how that mining thing actually works06:48
Kilosare they just using your pc and data or do you have to do things06:49
theblazehenKilos: basically your PC is looking for hashes that have a certain amount of 0 bits at the start which then shares those hashes with the mining pool which gives you bitcoins06:49
theblazehenJust using your graphics card and data06:49
Kilosoh so an unattended pc keeps mining as long as its online?06:50
theblazehenYep06:50
theblazehenI've actually got a nice setup :)06:50
theblazehen9 Graphics cards06:50
Kiloswow06:51
theblazehenCost just over 50 k06:51
Kiloseeeek06:51
theblazehenYeah.. ONly makes a few hundred rand a day now though :(06:51
Kiloshow many bitcoins do you earn in a day06:52
theblazehenNot 100% soure, but around R230 worth06:52
theblazehensure*06:52
Kilosthat will take forever to just make up the cost of your setup06:53
theblazehenYeah :/06:53
Kilosoi06:53
theblazehenProfitability was better06:53
Kiloswhere do you plug 9 graphics cards in?06:54
theblazehen3 computers06:54
theblazehenWant me to take a pic?06:54
Kilosof one pc inside yeah06:54
theblazehenThink I have on my phone. Lemme look06:55
Kilosif i use the main graphics socket and plugin an ide card too stuff dont work06:55
theblazehenWhat you mean by stuff don't work?06:56
theblazehenIs it PCI or PCI-e?06:56
Kilose06:57
theblazehenk06:57
theblazehenGraphics card nice and cheap now :)06:57
Kiloswhew not really06:57
theblazehen280x for only around R3000 I think06:58
theblazehenhttp://imgur.com/Maybe 350006:58
Kilosmy whole setup cost under 3k06:58
theblazehenMaybe 3500 *06:58
KilosZoinks! You've taken a wrong turn.06:59
theblazehenWhy?06:59
Kilosoh the maybe not spaced06:59
theblazehenOh, that was accident07:00
Kilossort that link man07:00
theblazehenNot a real link07:00
Kiloslol07:00
theblazehenTyped it while waiting for image to upload, forgot about it07:00
Kiloshaha07:00
Kilosbut zionks opened fast07:01
Kilosnever heard that before07:01
theblazehenhttp://www.wootware.co.za/powercolor-axr9-280x-3gbd5-t2dhe-oc-turboduo-radeon-r9-280x-384bit-pci-express-3-0-desktop-graphics-card.html Cards are cheap now07:02
theblazehenGOt our for around 450007:02
theblazehenhttp://imgur.com/57XPgSM07:04
theblazehenRight link07:04
Kilosoh its just mobo and cards07:05
theblazehenYeah07:05
Kilossjoe07:05
Kiloseish thats 4k for one card07:09
Kilosi want a complete pc for that price07:11
Kilosyou got too much money07:11
inetprogood morning07:12
inetprooh and hi Kilos as well07:12
inetproKilos: if you give me some energy your interwebs will speed up automagically07:12
theblazeheninetpro: Can you speed mine up to? Please ? :)07:15
theblazehenhttp://i.imgur.com/eLtCI.jpg yeah, thats true..07:15
inetproai!07:15
* inetpro trying to tackle the bull by the horns07:15
inetprofeels like I was hit by a train this morning07:16
Kilosmorning inetpro 07:20
Kilosinetpro, what can i do to help you?07:20
inetprojust give me some energy man07:21
KilosMaaz, coffee on07:21
* Maaz washes some mugs07:21
inetprogood idea, thanks07:21
inetproMaaz: coffee please07:21
Maazinetpro: Yessir07:21
Kilosmy speed is good today if you can make it even faster why havent you done it before07:21
inetproai!07:22
Kiloshaha07:22
theblazeheninetpro: Who you work for?07:23
Kilosmine is nearly a mB/s  again today07:23
inetprotheblazehen: don't worry, I have nothing to do with your speeds07:23
theblazeheninetpro: yeah, I know. Was interested anyway07:23
Kilosskelm07:23
theblazehenMy speeds normal now anyway07:23
Kilosyou wanted my energy for free mahala and for nothing07:24
Kilosi will give you moral support my pro07:24
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!07:25
KilosMaaz, thanks man07:25
MaazKilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)07:25
* inetpro is just some lowly sysadmin in some lost dungeon07:25
Kilosliar07:25
Kiloswithout you they crash07:26
inetproMaaz: dankie baie07:26
MaazGeniet jou koppie boeretroos inetpro07:26
theblazehenMaaz, coffee please07:26
Maaztheblazehen: There isn't a pot on07:26
theblazehenI'm out of IRL coffee07:26
theblazehenMaaz, put a pot on please07:26
Maaztheblazehen: Excuse me?07:26
theblazehenhi ChanServ 07:26
theblazehencharl_: *07:26
charl_good morning07:26
Kiloshi charl_ 07:26
charl_hi theblazehen 07:26
charl_Maaz: coffee on07:26
* Maaz puts the kettle on07:26
charl_hi Kilos 07:26
theblazehenMaaz do what you need to make coffee07:26
Maaztheblazehen: *blink*07:26
theblazehenMaaz: coffee please07:28
Maaztheblazehen: Okay07:28
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_ and theblazehen!07:30
charl_Maaz: thanks07:30
Maazcharl_: Okay :-)07:30
theblazehenhi Private_User 07:31
charl_hi Private_User 07:31
Private_Userhi theblazehen07:31
Private_Userhi charl_07:31
Private_Userand morning to everybody else07:32
Kiloshi Private_User net flying today07:32
Private_Userhi Kilos07:33
Private_Userwell I just logged in so lets see07:33
Kilos Download Speed: 7519 kbps (939.9 KB/sec transfer rate)07:34
Private_Userjust performed a speed test at mybroadband07:40
theblazehenI got some form of IPv^ !07:40
Private_UserInternational - Download Speed: 3158 kbps (394.8 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 137 kbps (17.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Latency: 277 ms 5/6/2014 9:40:05 AM07:40
Private_UserJohannesburg - Download Speed: 4317 kbps (539.6 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 479 kbps (59.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Latency: 112 ms 5/6/2014 9:41:20 AM07:40
Private_UserCape Town - Download Speed: 5474 kbps (684.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 326 kbps (40.8 KB/sec transfer rate) Latency: 117 ms 5/6/2014 9:43:36 AM07:40
theblazehenIPv6 *07:40
charl_theblazehen: what did you do ?07:40
Kilosthats the fastest you have had so far07:40
theblazehencharl_: CJDNS. It's a mesh network that uses IPv607:41
theblazehenwell Hyperboria, which runs on CJDNS07:41
charl_never heard of it07:41
theblazehenhttp://hyperboria.net/07:41
theblazehenPretty good performance..07:42
Golynxo/07:42
theblazehenhi Golynx 07:42
charl_very interesting07:42
theblazehenI'd actually love to set up a south african node07:42
theblazehenBut I can't forward my ports :/07:42
Golynxhi theblazehen07:42
theblazehencharl_: ping6 uppit.us07:44
theblazehenPING uppit.us(fc3a:956e:4b69:1c1e:5ebc:11a5:3e71:3e7e) 56 data bytes07:44
theblazehen64 bytes from fc3a:956e:4b69:1c1e:5ebc:11a5:3e71:3e7e: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=6007:44
theblazehentime=606 ms*07:44
theblazehenNot too bad, considering my point on entry node is in the US07:44
theblazehenPing to my vps in NY is 251 ms07:45
inetproyikes!07:45
inetproHarvard researchers have succeeded in creating quantum switches that can be turned on and off using a single photon...07:45
inetprohttp://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/04/flipping-the-switch/07:46
theblazeheninetpro: Nice!07:46
charl_theblazehen: interesting, from a regular ipv6 node i get: From 2001:610:f00:4044::45 icmp_seq=1 Destination unreachable: No route07:46
theblazehencharl_: yeah, isn't connected to main IPv6 network07:47
theblazehenThink it needs entries in BGP or something for that?07:47
charl_that's not very handy, making an exclusive little island like that07:47
theblazehenyeah, I know07:48
theblazehenAFAIK there is another open network that used BGP, not sure if it's connected to main network07:48
theblazehenBut CJDNS is fully encrypted, etc. Encrypted to each nodes public key07:48
charl_that's a very nice concept but i don't like this island mentality, it's like the english07:49
theblazehencharl_: yeah, I get that07:49
Kiloshi mazal 07:49
mazalMôre oom07:50
charl_if they made it so that it operates across the public network but then adds an extra layer on top it would have been awesome07:50
charl_but not this07:50
theblazehenhttps://dn42.net/Home07:50
charl_and if they made it optional07:50
theblazehencharl_: ^07:50
theblazehenyeah07:50
theblazehenYou should actually read whitepaper of cjdns. Want a link?07:51
charl_very interesting07:51
theblazehenhttps://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/doc/Whitepaper.md07:51
charl_nice, thanks07:51
theblazehenI still have a little diffiulty understanding how the routing works :/ :(07:53
theblazehenOh man.. Just got the new firefox on my windows vm :( 07:53
theblazehenForgot about new UI07:53
theblazehenPrivate_User, Kilos, charl_ :Would you guys be interested in a south african hyperboria node?07:55
Kilosi dont understand what thats all about 07:56
Kiloshi Xethron 07:56
theblazehenKilos: the mesh network I told you guys about07:56
Kilosbut if it can cut mobile data costs of course im interested07:56
Kilosuseless i go to something but still need to pay 8ta07:57
theblazehenWell it might not cut costs yet.. Unless you can get a wifi link to a guy with adsl or something07:57
Private_Userif it eventually leads to free internet I am in07:58
theblazehenPrivate_User: great07:58
theblazehenWas just wondering if it's worth paying for the server07:58
theblazehenR200 per month ?!07:58
Kilosthe idea is great but to find peeps that will share their wifi is another story07:58
Private_Userlol07:59
theblazehenKilos: yeah. Thats why I'm gonna try and work on a way to pay people for sharing their internet connection07:59
KilosPrivate_User, what the closest wifi to you?07:59
Private_Useryou right some people feel they paying for their access so everybody else should go and get their own07:59
Private_UserI don't think there is any close to me08:00
Kilosim sure my net is faster than the peeps up the road using voda and then wifi locally08:00
* mazal is busy installing 14.0408:01
Kilosill actually mail telkom again and see whats involved for them to do the wifi bit from this mobile tower of theirs08:01
mazalStruggling to remember everything that needs to be added :P08:01
Kilosmazal, 14.04 is lekker08:01
theblazehenHeh, this hyperboria search engine...08:01
theblazehenNo results. Didn't find shit. Try the !s command to search using Socialnode.08:02
mazalBaise stadig met performance oom08:02
mazalbaie even08:02
Kilosthey just disabled some things by default so you can google lots08:02
Kilosnee man08:02
Kilosmyne is beter as 12.0408:02
Private_Usertheblazehen: are you gonna try and make a business out of this as well? if so then I am definitely willing to assist where I can since I could also be benefiting financially which will in turn subsidise my internet connectivity08:02
theblazehenPrivate_User: Yep08:03
theblazehenLong way away though...08:03
theblazehenI'll share my powerpoint on it soon08:03
Kilosuse all those bitcoin machines08:03
Private_Userexcellent08:03
Private_Userbrb08:04
mazalAlreadu have crashes on some apps and things not working :(08:05
theblazehenGonna upload first version of powerpoint soon08:10
Kilosnee man mazal wat doen jy08:10
mazalNiks , nog skaars begin en die ding koer my al klaar08:10
Kilosupdate/upgrade08:11
mazalRSS crash aanmekaar en software centre maak net oop wanneer hy wil. Het nog nie eers begin om all my apps te laai nie08:11
mazalKlaar geupdate , doen dit altyd eerste08:11
theblazehenhttp://bit.ly/1htV50D Kilos, Private_User , charl_ 08:12
Kilosek het nie een probleem gehad op twee mashine nie08:12
Kilosen drie hardeskywe08:12
Kilosmazal, install aptitude and do aptitude upgrade and see what it finds08:14
theblazehenI go get food08:15
Kilosyou are the first one ive heard complain about 14.0408:15
nuvolario/08:15
theblazehenKilos: Want me to find a reason to complain? :p08:15
Kiloslo nuvolari 08:15
* nuvolari complains too08:16
nuvolarimy 12.04 won't upgrade08:16
nuvolari:P08:16
Kilosabout 14.04?08:16
Kilosclean install it nuvolari 08:16
Kilosjust keep your old /home08:16
theblazehenKilos: Found a problem. Wont fit on a CD08:17
Kiloslol08:17
Kilosya 1.1g08:17
Kilosive learned to rely on sticks and unetbootin08:18
mazalKilos: Is a fresh install , so far only did updates , restricted extras , liferea , chromium and synaptic08:19
mazalAnd having problems already08:19
Kilosmust be a bad install08:20
Kilosdo it again08:20
Kiloseveryone raves about 14.0408:20
mazalWhat's the best way these days to get libdvdcss installed ? If I remember correctly the medibuntu servers was shut down mos ?08:23
theblazehenCoffee + milo = good08:24
Private_UserI agree08:25
theblazehenPrivate_User: you check out the powerpoint?08:27
Kilosmazal, its in the repos08:30
mazalNope , only dvdnav is08:30
Kilosaptitude install libdvdcss208:30
mazalOk , found this: http://itsfoss.com/play-dvd-ubuntu-1310/08:30
Kilosinstall synaptic and you will see its in there08:32
mazalAlready did , it's not in there08:32
mazalOnly the dvdnav's are08:33
Kilos?08:33
Kilosits in mine08:33
Kilosyou installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and addons08:34
mazalYep08:34
Kilosthen do apt-get update again08:34
Kilosits in my synaptic08:35
Kilosthere is also a unity-tweak-tool08:35
ThatGraemeGuymazal: http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html08:41
Kilosoh maybe i got it when i installed vlc08:42
ThatGraemeGuyno08:42
ThatGraemeGuyit's just hosted there08:42
ThatGraemeGuyalso a i think you can install libdvdread, and then there's an install script for libdvdcss2 under /usr/share/doc08:42
ThatGraemeGuyyeah08:43
ThatGraemeGuysudo apt-get install libdvdread408:43
ThatGraemeGuysudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh08:43
Kiloswhew08:44
Kilosmaybe i did that08:44
mazalThanx ThatGraemeGuy 08:45
mazalI went the route of adding that repo. Then one will get updates also08:45
Kilosi think i followed one of these http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2014/04/24/10-or-20-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr/08:45
who_da_flyKilos: timeout08:46
ThatGraemeGuythe install-css.sh script adds the repo08:46
who_da_flyfreenode has improved their IRC server, but it still a bit buggy08:46
=== who_da_fly is now known as superfly
Kiloswb superfly 08:47
Golynxhmm08:48
Golynxweird day08:48
theblazehenGolynx: ?08:49
Golynxtheblazehen nvm08:50
Golynxhi Kilos08:50
Kiloshi Golynx 08:50
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy: heh, found you on reddit again08:52
Kiloshi Vince-0 08:52
Vince-0Hi kbmonkey 08:52
Vince-0I mean Kilos 08:52
Kiloslol08:52
Kiloswow we 40 here and not even a meeting day08:53
theblazehenhi Vince-0 08:53
ThatGraemeGuytheblazehen: yeah, that happens a lot :-p08:53
Vince-0haai o/08:53
Golynxhi Vince-0, ThatGraemeGuy08:53
ThatGraemeGuy'lo09:00
Private_Usersorry theblazehen just stepped away from my machine reading now09:06
Private_Usertheblazehen: completed reading presentation, sounds good09:23
theblazehenPrivate_User: thanks :) Seems it's missing somthing at the end though..09:24
mazalGuys where do I find the startup applications on 14.04 ?09:29
=== who_da_fly is now known as superfly
theblazehen1BLAZECxMBkXTvuh8ppa49opVoQMcsGsm7 New BTC address :)10:38
Vince-0whoot!10:55
mazalOom Kilos , het jy dalk 'n manier gekry al om iso te maak nou met remastersys wat nie meer bestaan nie ?10:59
inetproquick question: do people still use anti reflective screen protectors these days?11:39
Kiloshmm... mazal 11:40
Kilosja dit het nog gewerk op 12.0411:40
bushtech_inetpro: you talking about on a phone?11:41
inetprobushtech_: no, talking about on LCD monitors11:42
bushtech_Ah Ok dunno about them11:43
inetproI remember a few years ago even I had something for myself but ever since moving to LCD I stopped using them11:44
inetpronow have users complaining about headaches and thinking about anti-glare screens11:45
* inetpro thought modern screens have improved 11:46
bushtech_swambo complaining about shiny screen on new Mecer laptop11:47
theblazeheninetpro: Which kind of screen? I think TN screens arent good, but IPS is expensive11:49
inetproyikes! I did'nt even know about TN vs IPS, how do you know or check?11:52
theblazeheninetpro: Not quite sure. You gonna have to google it11:53
Golynxtoo much near sighted focus for the eyes will damage it in the long run. So to balance that go stand on top of a mountain and look around. The eyes love far sight , its relaxing and  much less strain on the brain. I read somewhere 5 years ago 11:56
theblazehenGolynx: I don't have any problems..12:00
theblazehenyet12:00
Golynxtheblazehen maybe in the long run12:01
theblazehenWell thats a problem for later.. :p12:01
inetproso the real question is, will a anti-glare protector really help?12:02
Golynxthe human animal is not used to the eyes being so stressed. Its used to looking at open landscape for food while hunting other animals and clobbing females over the head with rocks12:03
inetproGolynx: you are out of line! :-)12:04
Golynxinetpro with tft lcd dim the screen12:04
Golynxcathode ray tubes are the evil that caused the invention the anti glare  protector12:05
Golynxof*12:05
Golynxinetpro just being honest, no point in hiding what we are12:05
theblazehenGolynx: I.. Liked.. My crt..12:06
Kiloshmm...13:59
kbmonkeyhello15:17
Kiloshi kbmonkey 15:17
kbmonkeyMaaz, tell Vince_0 Howzit, just missed you15:17
Maazkbmonkey: Got it, I'll tell Vince_0 on freenode15:17
kbmonkeyhi Kilos 15:17
Kilosvince sometimes comes back at night15:18
kbmonkeythey mostly come out at night... mostly...15:19
Kiloshaha15:19
Kilosinetpro, gaan slaap vroeg16:07
kbmonkeymoeg Kilos ?16:16
Kilosno he must sleep early16:17
Kilosthis morning already he felt like hed been run over by a train16:17
Kilosold age gets to peeps you know16:18
Kilosbut i wont be far behind him anyway16:22
Kiloskbmonkey, have you installed 14.0416:24
kbmonkeyhey Kilos ! no I have not - thanks for reminding me!!16:25
kbmonkeybeen very occupied with family events16:25
kbmonkeytonight is the first night I get to spend time on the pc16:25
Kilosis all ok lad?16:25
kbmonkeyforeigners visiting16:25
Kiloswhat flavour did you download16:25
Kilosah16:25
kbmonkeyubuntu flavor16:25
kbmonkeydesktop16:26
Kilosunity16:26
Kiloshee hee hee16:26
kbmonkeythere is an option?16:26
kbmonkeyit did not give me an option16:26
Kilosya man they all there16:26
kbmonkeyguess I got whatever was default16:26
Kiloskubuntu xubuntu lubuntu16:26
kbmonkeyubuntu16:26
kbmonkeyunity then16:26
Kilosoh different links16:26
Kilosi told you a coupla years ago you get to ubuntu sometime16:27
Kilosmazal installed it today and battled from the start16:27
Kilosdunno what he did wrong16:27
kbmonkeyja I will maybe install tomorrow16:31
Kiloschicken16:31
Kilos7 min install16:31
Kilosand it sees usb modems lekker16:32
Kiloseven my d-link16:32
kbmonkeyja ja but I must eat supper just now and after chroes Ill be knackered oom - getting old ;P16:37
kbmonkeychores*16:37
Kiloshahaha16:37
kbmonkeyhe he he16:39
Kiloshi Trixar_za 16:51
Trixar_zaHi Kilos16:51
Private_Userevening all16:54
Kiloshi Private_User 16:55
Private_Userhi Kilos16:55
Private_Userso everybody ready to cast their ballot tomorrow?16:55
Private_Useror did everybody here qualify for the special votes for yesterday and today?16:56
Kiloshaha16:56
Private_Useri.e. the old and physically challenged16:56
Trixar_zaI'm casting mine bright and early - mostly because I hate standing in cues more than I love sleep16:56
Trixar_zaAnd God helps those bastards if they're not open at 7am like the law says16:57
Trixar_za:P16:57
Private_Userlooks like I will not be able to part take in Provincial elections not in the province I am registered :(16:57
Kilosi go eat16:58
Private_Usercool enjoy Kilos16:58
Trixar_zaThat reminds me16:58
Trixar_zaDoes Wimpy still do the free breakfast for people that vote thing?16:59
Private_UserI think they doing free coffee16:59
Trixar_zaOh right - coffee16:59
Private_UserI saw the advert on TV earlier16:59
Trixar_zaEh, it's still something16:59
Private_Useryeah maybe I go vote at place near a wimpy  and walk in for a free coffee17:01
Private_Usersince it does not matter where I go since I am not in my registered province or does it?17:01
Private_Userhehe17:03
Private_Userbut wondering if there is any voting stations near a wimpy17:03
Private_Userhmm...17:03
Trixar_zaActually the nearest one is across the train tracks at the nearest Pick 'n Pay - about 10 minutes walk from the voting station17:06
Trixar_zaBut it will be like 7am - so I'll probably have to wait17:06
Kilostake lotsa disguises so you can go back for more coffee17:10
Golynxwow software with my name lol http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrit_(software)17:12
Golynxthis software actually made Android possible :p17:13
Private_Userlol @ Kilos17:14
Kiloshi captine 17:27
captinehi kilos17:28
Golynxai. i got to learn to zip it at the right times.17:31
Kilos?17:31
Kilosyou on the right channel Golynx 17:32
Golynxstaying quiet i mean17:32
Kiloswhat now17:32
Golynxnothing happened , everything it fine17:33
Kilosok17:34
nuvolarieveryone ready to vote tomorrow?17:47
theblaze1nuvolari: Nope!17:47
nuvolari:-/ 17:47
nuvolariwhy not?17:47
* nuvolari taps foot17:47
GolynxZuma will win again, i see no point really17:48
theblaze1nuvolari: not 18 :p17:48
nuvolaritheblaze1: get a move on then! :P17:49
theblaze1Golynx: I'd rather have zuma than malema..17:49
nuvolariGolynx: fail before trying then?17:49
theblaze1nuvolari: lol17:49
nuvolariit's because people don't vote that they smack away votes in favour of the corrupt govvament17:49
Golynxtheblaze1 lol17:50
nuvolarihmm, not sure that we're allowed to talk politics in here :-/ sorry17:50
Golynxwe dont need another Hitler :p17:50
Golynxnuvolari ya true17:51
nuvolarion a different topic: if you only have 1 place of work to provide as a reference for your 'professional carreer' in a CV, do you include your current boss as a reference? :P17:51
nuvolarihow do you tell people, "Hey, I'm good, I'm worth it, just don't ask my boss"17:52
* Golynx is happy to be unemployable :)17:54
Golynxbut everyone need good references to make it as a self employed or an employable person17:56
theblaze1Golynx: atom.io18:11
Golynxtheblaze1 thats a good project , but i'm strictly netbeans :)18:18
theblaze1kk :)18:18
Kilosinetpro, gaan slaap man. more is nog n dag18:40
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:40
superflyGolynx: every vote for another party is a vote against the ANC... if you don't vote it's the same as voting FOR the ANC18:48
superflyGolynx: there IS a point to voting. Besides... if you don't vote, you have no right to moan.18:48
Golynxsuperfly there are probably 16 million people going to vote . They wont miss 1 little vote :)18:55
superflyGolynx: you don't know that. your vote may make that difference between an ANC majority and not. a single vote can be quite powerful18:56
Golynxbut i do understand you're point.18:56
Golynxsuperfly i wont vote this year. The ANC already made sure the DA wont come close to beating them. One example the baning of DA ads from SABC channels dominated by the ANC.19:00
nuvolarithat's a void reason :-/19:00
nuvolariyou don't eat an elephant in 1 bite19:01
nuvolariif you don't start nibbling, the elephant will trumpet till the end of existence19:01
nuvolaritaking into mind that the hypothetical elephant never dies19:02
superflyGolynx: it's your free will to not vote, but I disagree with you19:02
Golynxnuvolari its not like i never voted. I just see no point in voting in this years election19:02
nuvolariGolynx: when then, will there ever be a year to vote?19:03
nuvolariwhat will be your deciding factor?19:03
Golynxsuperfly sure you are free to disagree :)19:03
nuvolarithere is a point when 1 vote *will* make the difference. Your's might just have been this year19:04
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Golynxnuvolari i already voted before. I got my reasons why i chose not to this time around. Dont worry i will vote in the future :)19:06
nuvolarihttp://youtu.be/_PrPLqw9qPE?t=7m23s <- perfect example of what a little can do19:09
nuvolariwatch the whole video for a more dramatic effect19:09
nuvolarialso there's the Butterfly Effect :)19:10
nuvolarino reason can be good enough not to vote, unless you are *gasp* bribed19:10
nuvolariare you? :P19:10
* Golynx feels like he will be banned from the channel for not voting tomorrow19:11
* superfly gets to have a free coffee from Cape Town's best coffee shop on Thursday, just because he is going to vote tomorrow19:12
Golynxhaha even if i wanted to vote its too late to register . You're pusing a balloon off a mountain lol19:14
Golynxpushing*19:14
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