[00:07] <lakoma> installed ubuntu 14.04 on old desktop... problem is that it doesnt have a network card built in. i use a wireless adapter... any ideas on how to install?
[00:07] <fenik> Any suggestions on what to do if I found a serious privacy-related issue with Ubuntu One?
[00:08] <daftykins> fenik: nothing as it shutdown
[00:09] <mgolisch> lakoma: the wireless adapter doesnt work?
[00:09] <nigel> Hi, since upgrading from 12.04LTS to 14.04LTS my dual monitors wont work, I can only get them to mirror each other. Any suggestions? Thx
[00:09] <lakoma> ya, it wont pick up... and im not entirely sure how to install it. i plugged it in and it worked with my windows xp... but wont
[00:09] <lakoma> with ubuntu
[00:09] <fenik> I know it's shutting down, but this is related to the "Download all files as .zip" button they have now.
[00:10] <mgolisch> lakoma: what adapter is this?
[00:11] <fenik> Basically I went to download all my files and ended up getting a zip of someone else's files.
[00:12] <lakoma> Qwest (our local isp) Model: 802AIN LNQ802AIN
[00:12] <kostkon> fenik, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone
[00:13] <daftykins> lakoma: plug it in and run "lsusb" from a terminal and post it to paste.ubuntu.com / google on another system how to set up that chipset
[00:13] <fenik> kostkon: thanks, I submitted a support request, but I'll make a bug report too.
[00:14] <daftykins> fenik: ah ok, my apologies
[00:14] <fenik> daftykins: no worries, just concerned.
[00:14] <daftykins> indeed!
[00:16] <lakoma> ok ill brb
[00:17] <mgolisch> lakoma: does dmesg display anything if you plug it in?
[00:18] <nigel> Hi all, since upgrading from 12.04LTS to 14.04LTS my dual monitors wont work, I can only get them to mirror each other. Any suggestions? Thx :)
[00:20] <daftykins> nigel: what graphics hardware?
[00:26] <daftykins> nigel: lspci | grep -i vga
[00:28] <daftykins> nigel: hrmm, do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[00:28] <nigel> daftykins: I dont know
[00:30] <daftykins> nigel: type "cd /etc/X11" then "ls" and look for a xorg.conf
[00:30] <daftykins> xorg.conf.failsafe will likely be there but doesn't count :)
[00:31] <nigel> no, xorg isnt there
[00:33] <daftykins> nigel: ok i found this googling for your graphics... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772463&s=b8cff08d8a50da632e0a66bcadbd7a76&p=4828291#post4828291
[00:33] <ObsequiousNewt> How do I configure GTK applications to read from ~/.XCompose in Trusty?
[00:34] <Dvorovoi> how do i go about figuring out whats wrong with wineconfig? wine --version returns a version but wineconfig fails to load
[00:35] <nigel> daftykins: thanks for your help, Ill give it a go.
[00:35] <daftykins> np
[00:36] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, what errors are you getting
[00:37] <Dvorovoi> Im not getting any
[00:37] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, run it from the terminal:   winecfg
[00:37] <Dvorovoi> i have a hard drive thats full. wanted to change my wine directories to another hard drive. so i figured id uninstall it from the software manager
[00:38] <Dvorovoi> then when i went to reinstall it, im told i have 3 other versions installed
[00:38] <Dvorovoi> and i wanted to get rid of those too
[00:38] <Dvorovoi> but i dont know how to do that
[00:38] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, you could just soft-linked the .wine dir
[00:38] <Dvorovoi> winecofig was just me trying to find a way to achieve the above
[00:38] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, 3 versions? hmm
[00:38] <Dvorovoi> sec ill paste
[00:39] <Dvorovoi> wine-1.7.17
[00:39] <Dvorovoi> wine-1.7.17
[00:39] <Dvorovoi> just the one
[00:39] <Dvorovoi> but the software manager says 3
[00:39] <Dvorovoi> a 64bit one. and main one and a 43 bit one
[00:39] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, so, what's the exact error message you are getting in the software centre
[00:39] <Dvorovoi> 32
[00:40] <Gigakoops> Hello, I need help with an audio problem. For the past few months the headphone jack had been working fine, but today it just doesn't work, and audio still plays out of the speakers. When I plug the headphones in I still hear a little "blip," so the jack itself is working. I have tried both ALSA Mixer and Pavucontrol, and neither has fixed the problem.
[00:40] <yolo_> how long does it take to get unbanned ?
[00:40] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, apt-cache policy wine*
[00:40] <Gigakoops> I used the command "wget http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh -O alsa-info.sh && bash alsa-info.sh" in the Terminal, and I need someone to look at this data and help me try to find what's the matter with my audio settings.
[00:40] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, paste on paste.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <Guest1586> Hello, I am new to ubuntu. I recently bought a logitech c310 webcam for my pc, but for some reason the microphone does not work.
[00:42] <Guest1586> I would appreciate any help
[00:43] <Dvorovoi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7401891/
[00:43] <Dvorovoi> they have a wine1.7 version under them
[00:44] <vernon> Quick question. I am thinking about switching to Ubuntu. I have a lot of experience with Linux. I prefer the Cinnamon desktop, and was excited to see it is now independent of GNOME. How do I get this on Ubuntu 14.04?
[00:44] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, try the apt-cache policy wine* command
[00:46] <vernon> And I also want to remove Unity. So I essentially want Linux Mint, without Linux Mint. I actually cannot stand that distro.
[00:46] <daftykins> !find cinnamon
[00:46] <Yelu> Very, very positive feedback to all the "helping hands" here: do-release-upgrade from 11.10 server to 12.04 LTS server - customer (100 clients) had absolutley no issues with it (only some config files), though running it with a ejabberd and a non-supported domino server on it. - Thanks to all.
[00:47] <daftykins> !info cinnamon
[00:47] <daftykins> !info cinnamon-desktop
[00:47] <daftykins> *shrug* :)
[00:47] <vernon> That does little to answer my question. I don't mind setting up PPAs.
[00:47] <daftykins> i was more curious myself than anything.
[00:47] <vernon> As I said, I do have experience. I did run Gentoo for quite a while myself, so I am pretty comfortable in command line only.
[00:48] <xangua> vernon: this is a good start http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
[00:48] <daftykins> vernon: what brought you here then? :)
[00:48] <Dvorovoi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7401907/
[00:49] <Seven_Six_Two> http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-nightly/ubuntu
[00:49] <coppercore> mmm, cinnamon
[00:49] <coppercore> I love that interface
[00:50] <fossterer> seen sajan?
[00:50] <fossterer> !seen
[00:51] <vernon> Upgraded PCs a while back, and I know that this machine will be a pain and a half to work with on that end. No longer can I dedicate a whole computer to this craziness. Plus this one has a 120 GB SSD, and a 1 TB HDD. I want to boot off of the SSD, and set critical apps to run on this, and use my 1TB drive as storage. If I like Ubuntu after modding
[00:51] <vernon> it, then fine. So 2 disk drives, makes everything a literal pain in the rear on command line only. I went back to Windows since this is a more than capable gamer ;)
[00:51] <Dvorovoi> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7401907/ in case you missed
[00:54] <vernon> Which in itself is quite, quite painful. I hate it...
[00:54] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, you already have wine 1.7, but you could try:   sudo apt-get clean   and then    sudo apt-get install wine1.7 --reinstall
[00:54] <vernon> And Ubuntu popped my cherry... So it has a weird place in my heart.
[00:55] <vernon> Seven_Six_Two: Awesome! Will have to use that PPA...
[00:55] <Dvorovoi> ok
[00:56] <Dvorovoi> so wine work as it should...how to I get wine to look into a divverent device for program data?
[00:56] <Dvorovoi> ill paste something to bin
[00:59] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, http://wiki.winehq.org/BottleSpec
[00:59] <Dvorovoi> kostkon: ok i think my initial problem was fixed. It could not find files on a partition I tried to use before rebooting
[01:00] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, ok.
[01:02] <vernon> Now to get rid of Unity... What is a good solution so I don't destroy my system?
[01:02] <Seven_Six_Two> vernon, install another desktop and don't worry about it. Unity is just compiz plugins, and won't take up a lot of space.
[01:03] <kostkon> vernon, leave it as it is. Don't remove it
[01:03] <vernon> Ahh, so it is Compiz plugins for GNOME I take it. So the root problem is GNOME, which Cinnamon is no longer dependent upon. Hmm...
[01:04] <c4rt3r> what am i doing wrong here http://pastie.org/9144288
[01:04] <kostkon> vernon, in reality, cinnamon is a customised version of gnome shell.
[01:05] <vernon> c4rt3r: Looks like you tried installing a MAC version. Shame on you!
[01:05] <c4rt3r> lol its not me its the ppa i'm using bro
[01:05] <c4rt3r> i dunno why it thinks i'm a mac :/
[01:06] <vernon> c4rt3r: The PPA put that up? Hmm... Hmm...
[01:06] <c4rt3r> backbox vernon
[01:06] <Dvorovoi> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7401953/
[01:06] <Guest96623> offtopic here?
[01:06] <maheanuu_> exit
[01:07] <Seven_Six_Two> Guest96623, in #ubuntu-offopic
[01:07] <ObsequiousNewt> How do I configure GTK applications to read from ~/.XCompose in Trusty?
[01:07] <vernon> c4rt3r: try this sudo pip install pybloomfiltermmap --upgrade
[01:08] <kostkon> Dvorovoi, maybe the files in .wine are corrupted. If you don't mind losing your wine apps, you could try deleting the folder, or maybe renaming it.
[01:08] <Argure> so, I got this old server I've had thrown in my lap I've been meaning to migrate but now has a full disk
[01:08] <Argure> I added more disk space and created a new primary volume
[01:08] <vernon> c4rt3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7401959/
[01:08] <Argure> and assigned all free space in LVM:     LV Size                229.45 GiB (was, 20GB)
[01:09] <Argure> however, resize2fs fails: resize2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/mastvoet/virtual\nCouldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[01:09] <Argure> any ideas?
[01:09] <vernon> Argure: How much space is left in that disk exactly?
[01:09] <Seven_Six_Two> Argure, run fsck on the filesystems from a live disc or usb
[01:10] <c4rt3r> hmm i'll have a good read vernon thanks man
[01:10] <Argure> Seven_Six_Two: it's a vps (hence the planned migration to physical) - no option for a live boot because no HVM
[01:10] <vernon> c4rt3r: NP. Hope that gets you somewhere...
[01:10] <Argure> vernon: /dev/vda3       209713152   524287999   157287424   8e  Linux LVM
[01:11] <Argure> that should be entirely empty, considering I literally just ordered the additional space for it
[01:11] <vernon> Argure: Now that is odd. I would think that error means that the drive is full.
[01:12] <mgolisch> or its not a extfs filesystem..
[01:12] <Seven_Six_Two> Argure, what's output of lvs
[01:12] <Argure> Seven_Six_Two:   virtual mastvoet -wi-ao  229.45g
[01:12] <mgolisch> what does file -s /dev/mastvoet/virtual say?
[01:12] <Seven_Six_Two> Argure, you said that there's 2 hd?
[01:13] <vernon> Argure: I think you literally cannot resize this drive. So time to go fresh on it, and dedicate the whole drive as an LVM?
[01:13] <Argure> mgolisch: symlink to dm-3: /dev/dm-3: SGI XFS filesystem data (blksz 4096, inosz 256, v2 dirs)
[01:13] <Argure> Seven_Six_Two: no, this is a vps unfortunately :/
[01:13] <vernon> Argure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7401970/
[01:13] <mgolisch> probably thats why resize2fs doesnt work
[01:13] <vernon> Argure: Reading material over this error.
[01:14] <Seven_Six_Two> Argure, http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/resize-your-disks-on-the-fly-with-lvm
[01:14] <Seven_Six_Two> Argure, instead of quoting what I was reading...
[01:14] <mgolisch> use whatever thing xfs uses
[01:15] <Argure> oh bloody hell
[01:15] <Argure> it's xfs
[01:15] <Argure> not ext4
[01:15] <Seven_Six_Two> that's why the superblock looks wrong!
[01:16] <Argure> root@mastvoet:/usr/local# xfs_growfs /usr/local/virtual
[01:16] <Argure> data blocks changed from 5242880 to 60147712
[01:16] <Argure> this is why I dislike working on servers I haven't set up myself
[01:16] <c4rt3r> hey vernon i cloned the latest git and put it in manually and i have lulz
[01:16] <Argure> not to mention the complete lack of monitoring that this disk was filling up :/
[01:16] <c4rt3r> thanks man
[01:17] <vernon> c4rt3r: I am glad I found a fix for you. You are most welcome, that is why we are on here.
[01:17] <mgolisch> Argure: nagios ftw
[01:17] <mgolisch> :)
[01:17] <Bray90820> How would i specify which lines i am talking about in sed
[01:17] <Argure> mgolisch: yeah, I have nagios set up for the new servers
[01:17] <vernon> Argure: Ahh, that makes a lot of sense! Well, good thing you got to the root of it!
[01:17] <Argure> I haven't configured it to monitor servers I'm trashing in ~2 weeks
[01:18] <vernon> Okay, so no BS, how good is the new LTS?
[01:18] <Argure> (also, things like lack of monitoring are probably why I've taken over the sysadmin thing to begin with :P)
[01:18] <Argure> also, finally actual backups
[01:18] <Argure> and md raid \o/
[01:20] <Argure> /dev/mapper/mastvoet-virtual  230G   20G  210G   9% /usr/local/virtual
[01:20] <Argure> there
[01:20] <Argure> people can email again :P
[01:22] <slimjimflim> hi, what's the best way to install php 5.4 or php 5.3 in 14.04?
[01:24] <kostkon> !info php
[01:24] <Seven_Six_Two> !info php5
[01:24] <Seven_Six_Two> slimjimflim, can't be 5.5?
[01:25] <slimjimflim> Seven_Six_Two: i have 5.5 but i want to test in 5.4
[01:25] <somsip> slimjimflim: use a vm
[01:26] <slimjimflim> somsip: i'd prefer to do it not spend the extra time setting one up esp. if there's a package/repo i can use
[01:26] <Bray90820> Can someone help me here
[01:26] <slimjimflim> somsip: *i'd prefer not to spend...
[01:26] <Bray90820> What single sed command can be used to change all occurrences of ‘daemon’ to ‘DAEMON’ from the line containing ftp to the line containing lp:
[01:26] <somsip> slimjimflim: there is no way to allow different version of php to run under apache on one machine AFAIK. You can run different versions under CLI though
[01:27] <slimjimflim> somsip: you can do it by changing the php executable in apache2.conf ...i could compile php 5.4/5.3 but i'd rather just use a package
[01:27] <somsip> slimjimflim: so no supported, simple way.
[01:27] <slimjimflim> figured
[01:27] <slimjimflim> k ty
[01:27] <Argure> slimjimflim: install php5 from apt
[01:28] <Argure> compile any other version from source
[01:28] <slimjimflim> Argure: the php5 package is 5.5
[01:28] <somsip> slimjimflim: much better to invest an hour to setup a VM from a minimal CD for whenever you need to do regression testing
[01:28] <Argure> and run apache2 with fcgid against apache
[01:28] <Argure> easiest way would be to just run two versions of php5-fpm on different sockets or ports, and point your vhost to use whichever one you prefer
[01:28] <slimjimflim> Argure: fcgid...oh i think i did something like that once
[01:29] <slimjimflim> yea i think that's the way to go
[01:29] <slimjimflim> Argure+
[01:29] <Argure> just have one php5-fpm listen on 9000 and the other on 9001 or w/e
[01:29] <Comviqhelpty> can someone help me
[01:29] <Comviqhelpty> i will pay in BTC for support
[01:29] <slimjimflim> Comviqhelpty: don't ask to ask, just ask
[01:30] <Comviqhelpty> Well I am more thinking someone can give me some livesupport for payment how to setup 3G Dongle in Ubuntu
[01:30] <Comviqhelpty> i also have some other problems understanding some dependency bugs
[01:30] <Comviqhelpty> !Kali
[01:31] <Argure> slimjimflim: if you want to use a package just apt-get source and change paths, dpkg-buildpackage and install
[01:31] <slimjimflim> hmm
[01:32] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, look up your local linux user group, and attend a meeting. You can likely get facetime with many experienced people.
[01:32] <slimjimflim> Argure: i think i'm just gonna compile it and change the php executable path.  that'll be less of a hassle
[01:32] <Argure> probably
[01:32] <Comviqhelpty> Seven_Sex_Two: now that's wierd
[01:32] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, which part?
[01:32] <Comviqhelpty> That you actually recommend me to go meet people to get support with something
[01:33] <Comviqhelpty> That I most likely can solve online with nice FRIENDLY people
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, you're asking for personal live support. That's a place to get it. Are LUG people not friendly?
[01:33] <guest98765> Bashing-om: still here?
[01:34] <Beldar> Comviqhelpty, Are you running kali?
[01:34] <Comviqhelpty> Sorry if i wasn't clear, I meant in livechat or teamviewer
[01:35] <Comviqhelpty> Beldar: yes in virtualbox, however I am reinstalling it now, to get English language to be able to recognise the error codes on forum etc
[01:35] <Bashing-om> guest98765: I am back ! what is the situation now ?
[01:35] <Beldar> Comviqhelpty, Is this issue in kali?
[01:36] <guest98765> WIFI is up and running thanks to viper474
[01:36] <guest98765> i did update.
[01:36] <viper474> guest98765: Bashing-om oh good, he's back =)
[01:37] <guest98765> you wanted me to install something before XFCE and I did not write it down.
[01:37]  * guest98765 bad
[01:38] <floatingpoint> bazhang yolo
[01:38] <guest98765> Bashing-om: you wanted me to install something before XFCE and I did not write it down.
[01:38] <floatingpoint> word up to my linux brethren
[01:38] <Bashing-om> guest98765: Well, Great ! what was it that cuased the WIFI to drop out ? professional curiosity.
[01:39] <guest98765> Bashing-om: solar flares?
[01:39] <Comviqhelpty> I offer 0.10 BTC (doubled my bid) if someone gets my 3G stick internet work
[01:40] <ObsequiousNewt__> How do I configure GTK applications to read from ~/.XCompose in Trusty?
[01:40] <Comviqhelpty> yes this issue is in Kali Beldar and same problem in Backtrack to
[01:40] <guest98765> I started up a router on my desk with no password and viper474 had it up in 5 minutes...
[01:40] <Bashing-om> guest98765: OK, back to out situation. OK, core is installed, you have now ran -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- . and we are ready for the next step ?
[01:41] <Beldar> Comviqhelpty, We don't support kali or backtrack, that bot told you that from your prompt.
[01:41] <guest98765> Bashing-om:  upgrade... now...
[01:41] <Comviqhelpty> Problem is essentially same , I have tried ubuntu as well
[01:41] <Comviqhelpty> so let's just say the problem is in Ubuntu, because i have all 3 running in virtualbox
[01:41] <Beldar> Comviqhelpty, Hardly an issue, nit supported period.
[01:42] <Beldar> not*
[01:42] <Beldar> Comviqhelpty, GO AWAY.
[01:42] <Comviqhelpty> OK well then i have the same problem in Ubuntu, can you help me for the ubuntu OS?
[01:42] <Bashing-om> guest98765: Now what results -> dpkg -l xorg <- want to see 'ii' in the 1st column.
[01:42] <Comviqhelpty> emm WHY?
[01:42] <guest98765> Bashing-om:  upgrading the Kernel..
[01:42] <Comviqhelpty> I'm saying i have the exact same problem in Ubuntu and if it works on Ubuntu I am happy
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> That's unnecessarily rude. There's no reason to try to kick someone out.
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, please be running Ubuntu, as there may be differences that none of us are aware of. That's all that was meant.
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, essentially the same != exactly the same
[01:44] <Comviqhelpty> thanks Seven_Six_Two
[01:44] <Comviqhelpty> I know I know
[01:44] <Bashing-om> guest98765: Backing up ( me) one step run -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- , just to be on a safer side of things. when 'upgrade is done.
[01:44] <Comviqhelpty> but like i said I am happy if i can get it work on Ubuntu
[01:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, I understand totally. I don't think I can help with that personally, but good luck!
[01:45] <guest98765> Bashing-om: ok still DL kernel
[01:45] <Argure> as a debian user who is only here with an issue with an inherited ubuntu server: telling people to run ubuntu instead of a derivative seems funny to me :P
[01:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, you might want to try at a different time of day, as people come and go.
[01:45] <Comviqhelpty> Ill stick around and see if someone comes :) thanks
[01:45] <Beldar> Argure, The channel has rules, we will get yelled at for helping where not allowed.
[01:45] <Bashing-om> guest98765: no hurry, I read the channel while it completes.
[01:48] <guest98765> viper474: will the machine remember this WIFI config?
[01:49] <viper474> guest98765: possibly not. After a restart it may disappear. So might want to update /etc/network/interfaces
[01:50] <guest98765> only one essid allowed in that file?
[01:50] <viper474> guest98765: yes and make it in all caps
[01:50] <viper474> guest98765: and remove the key
[01:50] <Bashing-om> viper474: (Thanks for that HUGE assist) guest98765 ; we will soon be in the position to reboot, prior to installing the desk top.
[01:51] <guest98765> viper474: even if it is listed in lower case letters?
[01:51] <viper474> Bashing-om: I'm sure there's a GUI that will be easier after XFCE is up
[01:51] <Bashing-om> viper474:  glad you know !
[01:52] <guest98765> viper474:  i only have 512 megs of memory to work with... so light weight is the key.
[01:52] <viper474> guest98765: make the broadcast name in all caps, since I thought that's how you said it was. I didn't mean the wireless-essid part itself
[01:53] <guest98765> viper474: the no password one is all in lower case... The first one was all in caps.
[01:54] <viper474> guest98765: well, everything in the file should be lowercase
[01:54] <viper474> guest98765: except for after wireless-essid
[01:55] <marcos> BRs?
[01:55] <viper474> guest98765: depends how your wifi signal display
[01:55] <guest98765> viper474: Bashing-om  loaded kernel and rebooted.
[01:56] <viper474> Bashing-om: how are we going to get guest98765 under 512MB?
[01:56] <myke> hello, i upgraded from xubuntu 13.04 to 14.04 and now sometimes get kernel panics shortly after boot...if i don't get one within the first few minutes it doesn't seem i get one at all...anyone experience this or have info?  TIA
[01:57] <guest98765> viper474: the lubuntu minimal was 175k free mem according to top.
[01:58] <viper474> Bashing-om: since he has internet now, maybe we can get some output to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:58] <Bashing-om> viper474: Well that is ram, so far so good, I have in mind to see if guest98765 likes the idea of 'elinks' for a web brower, and hey, might be a good test bed for 14.04's ubuntu-browser !
[01:59] <guest98765> Bashing-om: I can try anything...
[01:59] <viper474> Bashing-om: is lxde lighter that xfce?
[02:00] <nerp> do any of you guys have any recommendations for personal code/process documentation? I was considering running redmine on a private server, but I would prefer something local if possible.
[02:00] <viper474> guest98765: elinks is a text (command-line) web browser
[02:01] <Beldar> myke, Is there more than one kernel set to compare with?
[02:01] <guest98765> viper474: no pix?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> guest98765: That is your choice, I do not know how heavy Fire Fox, or Chrome would be, then there are lighter GUI options like iceweasel. But I sure have been impressed with elinks - but it is a test based web browser and has a learning curve.
[02:02] <guest98765> Bashing-om:  sure you want me to run dist-upgrade?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> guest98765: dist-upgrade mostly deals with the kerenl installs, will not do a release upgrade, dist-upgrade is apt's smart mode to deal with new package install and depenency issues.
[02:04] <viper474> Bashing-om: firefox with 6 tabs for me is about 500 megs
[02:04] <guest98765> Lets do xorg stuff dpkg -l xorg?
[02:04] <guest98765> Bashing-om: Lets do xorg stuff dpkg -l xorg?
[02:05] <Bashing-om> guest98765: lxde is a bit lighter, not much, and the support for xfce and it Configurability is without equal.
[02:06] <Bashing-om> guest98765: -> dpkg -l xorg <- just to make sure it is fully installed.
[02:06] <guest98765> Bashing-om: dpkg -l xorg  no packages found matching xorg
[02:06] <Aalex_> hi
[02:07] <Kion> I am trying to make a bash script and want to assign the output of a command into a variable, what am I doing wrong?: here is what I wrote: status = ps -e | grep mysqld | wc -l
[02:07] <m4rcos> what makes everyone in here? Talks or just finish problems?
[02:08]  * klutz vanished
[02:08] <viper474> m4rcos: just support/troubleshooting here
[02:08] <Bashing-om> guest98765: Now Ain't we glad I thought to check ! .. try again -> sudo apt-get install xorg <- .
[02:08] <Aalex_> Hey I wanna install WIFI driver which I downloaded from update manager.
[02:08] <Aalex_> But I can't.
[02:08] <klutz> viper474: its me vern  guest98765
[02:08] <Aalex_> Someone guide me.
[02:08] <Seven_Six_Two> Kion, that command outputs to stdout, it doesn't return the value.
[02:08] <viper474> Aalex_: why do you think you need a driver?
[02:09] <Bray90820> How would i choose like 2-5 in sed
[02:09] <Kion> Seven_Six_Two: So how do I capture stdout into a variable?
[02:09] <myke> Beldar: so far i've only booted the standard kernel with standard options
[02:09] <Aalex_> I had it before I updated my OS.
[02:09] <viper474> klutz: hey, if you missed it, Bashing-om said to try: sudo apt-get install xorg
[02:10] <klutz> Bashing-om:  Bashing-om: dpkg -l xorg  no packages found matching xorg
[02:10] <Beldar> myke, Do you understand the question?
[02:10] <klutz> viper474: ok install xorg
[02:10] <viper474> Aalex_: you had wifi or this specific driver?
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> Kion, try     status=$(ps -e | grep mysqld | wc -l)
[02:11] <Aalex_> I had updated my OS using my WIFI.
[02:11] <myke> Beldar: yes....i am running 3.13.0-24, it seems 3.11.0-20 is also installed in /boot
[02:11] <Aalex_> But then the wireless option went missing.
[02:12] <rdpascua> is there a way i can update my sshd to >= 6.2? I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:12] <rdpascua> downloading the .deb stupidly doesnt do the trick
[02:12] <myke> i asked here to see if this was a major known problem, or just me
[02:12] <Beldar> myke, So was this a upgrade through 13.10? and were there any problems while upgrading?
[02:13] <klutz> viper474: Bashing-om installing xorg
[02:13] <Seven_Six_Two> Kion, for your reference:   http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[02:13] <Bashing-om> klutz: k, awaiting completion.
[02:14] <adestain> :o
[02:14] <viper474> Bashing-om: isn't this fun?
[02:14] <Kion> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks! that worked
[02:14] <Beldar> myke, Major known problem, would take details, which we lack here, to recognize.
[02:15] <Seven_Six_Two> Kion, great! don't forget to bookmark that link for later! It's everything you'll need for scripting.
[02:15] <m4rcos> viper474 thanks. it's good, i was thought that none want use IRC chats actually. I come here just for a test for a activities and I can not speak english, so, same i should help, I can't. Sorry-me.
[02:15] <viper474> rdpascua: what happens when you try to run the .deb?
[02:15] <Kion> Seven_Six_Two: I already bookmarked it
[02:15] <rdpascua> well it uninstalled my existing openssh
[02:15] <Bashing-om> viper474: Hey, YES ! .. funnest thing I have ever encountered ! If it were not so, I would be earst-while pre-occupied elsewhere, huh !
[02:15] <rdpascua> it says i needed some dependencies and stuff
[02:15] <rdpascua> i've tried apt-get -f install
[02:16] <rdpascua> well it just uinstalled it
[02:16] <ObsequiousNewt__> How do I configure GTK applications to read from ~/.XCompose in Trusty?
[02:16] <myke> Beldar: yes upgrade, no problems during upgrade
[02:16] <Bashing-om> viper474: Solving these puzzles sure beats doing the card board ones !
[02:16] <viper474> m4rcos: I think there's an #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion.
[02:17] <Aalex_> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=309276
[02:17] <Aalex_> This is an error message.
[02:17] <myke> Beldar: i only upgraded saturday...haven't yet determined a pattern that triggers the kernel panic
[02:17] <viper474> rdpascua: where did you download it from? Sometimes the page list dependencies.
[02:18] <rdpascua> ubuntu package repository
[02:18] <rdpascua> wait let me paste it
[02:18] <viper474> Aalex_: gotcha... guess you're right. I'm not sure how to load a network driver.. =(
[02:18] <rdpascua> oh yes here
[02:18] <rdpascua> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openssh-server
[02:18] <Aalex_> what should I do next???
[02:19] <klutz> Bashing-om: done with xorg install
[02:20] <viper474> rdpascua: which release?
[02:20] <rdpascua> 14.04
[02:20] <rdpascua> what do you think viper474
[02:20] <viper474> rdpascua: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/openssh-server-udeb
[02:21] <viper474> rdpascua: on the left side there's stuff with red dots. You need to install those first
[02:21] <Bashing-om> klutz: Let's jump, go ahead and install the desk top. -> sudo apt-get install xfce <- .
[02:21] <Beldar> myke, As one way to look try dmesg in the cli, kernels are a bit out of me giving any real efficient help.
[02:21] <viper474> rdpascua: wait...
[02:21] <rdpascua> ohhh
[02:21] <lujingjie> 1
[02:22] <viper474> rdpascua: are you updating server or client?
[02:22] <klutz> Bashing-om: xfce4 maybe?
[02:22] <Aalex_> hello somebody help me out.........
[02:22] <Bashing-om> Aalex_: the coomand you used is invalid for wireless, try as -> iwconfig <- .
[02:22] <rdpascua> i think openssh-server?
[02:22] <rdpascua> yes
[02:22] <rdpascua> server
[02:22] <viper474> 64-bit or 86?
[02:22] <rdpascua> 64
[02:23] <Bashing-om> klutz: 100% true ! -> sudo apt-get install xfce4 <- .
[02:23] <viper474> rdpascua: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/openssh-server
[02:23] <django> hey guys how can I get skype?
[02:24] <rdpascua> whats the difference between udeb and the other
[02:24] <django> for ubuntu 12.04*
[02:24] <viper474> Bashing-om: Aalex_ wlan0 would show up as a device...but he's saying the wifi card need a different driver
[02:24] <Aalex_> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=309280   This is the error.
[02:24] <klutz> Bashing-om: xfce4 did it...
[02:25] <Aalex_> what should I do???
[02:25] <viper474> rdpascua: wait are you on 12.04?
[02:25] <rdpascua> yes im on 12.04
[02:25] <Beldar> Aalex_, Can you pastebin the out put of    lspci   in the terminal?
[02:25] <klutz> Bashing-om: i cheated... I looked into synaptic on my desktop.
[02:25] <viper474> rdpascua: oh...I see...
[02:25] <rdpascua> why viper474?
[02:25] <viper474> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/openssh-server 5.9 is the newest for 12.04
[02:26] <rdpascua> django: I think you can install by going through skype website
[02:26] <myke> Beldar: ok thanks
[02:26] <rdpascua> viper474: hmm so theres no posibility for upgrading? my 5.9
[02:26] <rdpascua> to 6.6?
[02:26] <viper474> rdpascua: I'm sure there's a way. I bet it's not kosher. =P
[02:26] <Beldar> skype is in the repos and the suggested used source
[02:26] <Bashing-om> klutz: OK ! .. in order to start xfce4, terminal command -> startxfce4 <- . Let's reboot at this time and see what results. Will boot to terminal; login and -> startxfce4 <- NEVER EVER use 'sudo' for the desk top !
[02:27] <rdpascua> viper474: i've been searching for hours, i need this AuthorizedKeysCommand
[02:27] <rdpascua> which is only available for 6.2
[02:28] <viper474> rdpascua: you know if it's also in the newer ones?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> klutz:  We have all these wonderful tools at out disposal, now If I can only learn to use them all !
[02:28] <Aalex_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7402207/plain/                         http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=309282
[02:28] <rdpascua> we'll i'm doing something with git repository hooks, and i need that somewhat feature
[02:29] <rdpascua> searching gives me that its only existing on 6.2
[02:29] <klutz> Bashing-om: so it will log into command line like we have been working with all day... login PW then startxfce4
[02:29] <Bashing-om> klutz: ya got it !
[02:29] <Aalex_> can someone control my laptop from there and help me install these drivers???
[02:30] <rdpascua> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/911747
[02:30] <rdpascua> viper474: only on saucy
[02:30] <Beldar> Aalex_, What makes you sure the drivers you have are correct or can be installed, how did you get to this point?
[02:30] <viper474> rdpascua: I just mean if that feature would have stayed in the newer versions of openssh
[02:31] <rdpascua> yes i'm sure
[02:31] <klutz> Bashing-om: I would like to get calibre up and running on this machine... I know I can do it from command line... will it work the same way? log in PW and type calibre?
[02:31] <rdpascua> 6.2 started that feature
[02:31] <rdpascua> anyhow can i install this one? or the udeb you gave me?
[02:31] <Aalex_> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=309282
[02:32] <Bashing-om> klutz: lemme check for calibre . likely.
[02:33] <klutz> Bashing-om:  this computer has an 80 gig HD in it and I want my E-books on it along with FBreader.
[02:33] <django> the skype icon is there but when i click on it nothing happens
[02:35] <Bashing-om> klutz: calibre it's self is not all that big. do -> apt-cache show calibre <- see all those dependencies .. well see what all is already installed, and what the overhead would be to install all those that are not currently installed.
[02:37] <viper474> klutz: Bashing-om he has hard drive space! GIVE THIS MAN SOME SWAP. lol.
[02:38] <Seven_Six_Two> klutz, /usr/bin/calibre
[02:38] <Bashing-om> klutz: When you are rebooted and up in xfce, lets see what the memory situation is, terminal command -> free <-. Then draw some conclusions.
[02:38] <klutz> Bashing-om: so once xfce is installed you want me to reboot and see if it works... viper474 I set up 2 gigs for a swap partition...
[02:39] <viper474> klutz: great, so you kinda...have 2.5GB RAM...except that 2GB is slow RAM.
[02:40] <viper474> klutz: because it's not RAM. Just Hard drive space being used in the place of it if you run out.
[02:40] <Aalex_> hey Someone please suggest what should I do??
[02:40] <klutz> viper474:  i am not new to computers and partitioning... just got stuck trying to get this antique up and running.
[02:41] <viper474> klutz: ah, ok. I didn't know. =)
[02:41] <klutz> viper474:  yes I thought this computer might need aditional space to put things.
[02:42] <jonalmeida_> Hello! Does anyone know how to configure the window snapping keyboard bindings? They aren't in the system preferences for some reason..
[02:42] <klutz> viper474:  even set up almost 67 gigs as /home so if the system died I can still get to the files.
[02:42] <Bashing-om> klutz: Yepper, want to know it workie, and also what the memory management is like, then start installing whatever else ya want ( web browser, ca;ibre, FBreader and all else that the memory can stand).
[02:43] <viper474> klutz: let's hope you don't run out of space for programs
[02:43] <klutz> viper474:  10 gigs for / >>   root
[02:44] <Aalex_> hello??/
[02:44] <klutz> Bashing-om: viper474  rebooting...
[02:44] <viper474> Aalex_: trying to find anything that could help
[02:44] <Aalex_> okay thanks .
[02:44] <Aalex_> I am waiting.
[02:45] <Bashing-om> klutz: me - /dev/sda1       4.7G  1.7G  2.9G  37% / - HA !
[02:45] <klutz> Bashing-om: that is like ls -l
[02:46] <corey_> hello
[02:46] <Bashing-om> klutz: nah, we be at device level, -> df -h <- .
[02:46] <klutz> viper474: 10 gigs for system, 2 gigs for swap, and 67 gigs for /home
[02:47] <viper474> Aalex_: maybe follow this video: http://youtu.be/5p59xfRtMLw
[02:47] <viper474> Aalex_: I didn't look through it, but it sounds like it may be helpful
[02:47] <klutz> Bashing-om: keep forgetting about the df command
[02:47] <tannerstirrat> I've got a question regarding my /boot/ folder. I'm showing a whole bunch of old kernels in my boot folder, but they aren't registered with dpkg or apt-get (listing my kernels using these commands only shows my most recent one). Is it safe to just go through and delete those?
[02:48] <Aalex_> okay I"ll try.
[02:48] <viper474> tannerstirrat: do you have synaptic installed?
[02:48] <rww> tannerstirrat: what do the filenames look like?
[02:49] <jonalmeida_> Anyone know how to configure window snapping keyboard shortcuts in unity?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> klutz: something like 10,000 commands, who can remember them ? only know what we use, use the tools at our disposal to find the others !
[02:49] <anudas> tannerstirrat,  i did delete and it was ok
[02:49] <tannerstirrat> viper474: no, no synaptic.
[02:49] <tannerstirrat> rww: initrd.img-3.2.0-24-generic-pae, for one example
[02:50] <tannerstirrat> anudas: ah, kk. I just wanted to verify
[02:50] <Seven_Six_Two> gnome-control-center reports that I have 13.10 but I most certainly have 14.04
[02:50] <Bashing-om> tannerstirrat: what release are you running ? .. safe way to remove kernels is through the package manager .
[02:50] <anudas> tannerstirrat,  ofcourse  you must hold last kernel you use in boot
[02:50] <klutz> Bashing-om:  first observation no network but I saved all of viper474 commands
[02:50] <tannerstirrat> yes, that was my plan
[02:50] <Comviqhelpty> sorry for asking again, but does anyone know if ubuntu has support for 3g in virtualbox
[02:50] <Comviqhelpty> and if so how to set it up
[02:50] <anudas> tannerstirrat, it will be ok
[02:51] <tannerstirrat> I ran dpkg -l | grep linux-image in terminal, and it only showed one or two kernels
[02:51] <tannerstirrat> so i'm figuring that as long as I don't remove those, it'll be all right
[02:51] <viper474> tannerstirrat: you could > sudo apt-get install synaptic < and search for them there
[02:51] <anudas> tannerstirrat,  i had about five old kernels :-)
[02:52] <Bashing-om> klutz: not a good sign. Are we up in the xfce Desktop ? all pretty !
[02:52] <viper474> tannerstirrat: just have to search for linux-image and linux-header
[02:52] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, lol. I didn't realize that you were using virtualbox. You said it's a usb dongle? I seem to remember choosing vmware because virtualbox didn't do usb passthrough
[02:52] <tannerstirrat> anudas: i've got over a dozen :P
[02:52] <anudas> tannerstirrat,  mc and you can delete by hand :-)
[02:53] <SchrodingersScat> Seven_Six_Two: thought it could
[02:53] <viper474> Bashing-om: does xfce come with a network-manager?
[02:53] <viper474> Bashing-om: it would be easier for him to configure that way
[02:53] <Seven_Six_Two> SchrodingersScat, I haven't used it for 4 years, so my knowledge is out of date.
[02:53] <klutz> Bashing-om: command line >>> top says 72028 used >>  435220 free...
[02:53] <Bashing-om> klutz: nope, no network manager - wired works out of the box without.
[02:54] <SchrodingersScat> Seven_Six_Two: well, link anyway https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#idp54878112
[02:54] <Comviqhelpty> i can see my device in lsusb
[02:54] <Comviqhelpty> so usb is passing through but just recognised strange product or something i guess
[02:54] <klutz> Bashing-om: I can try that tomorrow...
[02:54] <anudas> tannerstirrat,  every kernel get quite enough place
[02:54] <Bashing-om> klutz: Outstanding.  435220 left not used at this time, looking good.. and swap not even touched ! .
[02:54] <viper474> Bashing-om: maybe klutz should install wicd
[02:55] <viper474> Bashing-om: klutz unless it doesn't work...
[02:55] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, does it work in ubuntu natively?
[02:56] <Bashing-om> viper474:  -> klutz , yeah, sounds like the thing to do for wireless manipulations.
[02:56] <Comviqhelpty> I haven't tried to be honest
[02:56] <Comviqhelpty> but another brand works fine
[02:56] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, it's about the chipset, not really the brand.
[02:56] <viper474> Bashing-om: but he can't quite download it without internet first =P
[02:57] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, do you have a liveDVD to boot from, so that you can check the kernel modules used? Do you know which kernel module?
[02:57] <Comviqhelpty> uname dont show the kernel?
[02:58] <klutz> Bashing-om: XFWM4 fatal IO error
[02:58] <Comviqhelpty> in sakis3g i have option to pick different kernels
[02:58] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, I don't know what sakis3g is
[02:59] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, ok I get it
[02:59] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, check which modules are installed with    sudo lsmod
[02:59] <viper474> Bashing-om: does paste.ubuntu.com work in elinks?
[02:59] <Comviqhelpty> usb core and usb common
[03:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, you might be able to insert it if you can figure out which one you need. That's just a script to establish the connection, not set up the hardware.
[03:00] <Comviqhelpty> the connection is there for sure
[03:00] <Comviqhelpty> usb shows up in lsusb
[03:00] <Comviqhelpty> its just i need the right software settings to get it to connect
[03:01] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, do you have a pastebin of the current software settings and the output of an attempt or two?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> viper474: Yeah, one can make ecerything work in elinks, but it do take the know how !
[03:01] <Comviqhelpty> i have teamviewer if you wanna check it out
[03:02] <viper474> Bashing-om: then we should get klutz on that
[03:02] <Comviqhelpty> if you have the time that is
[03:02] <Bashing-om> klutz:  XFWM4 fatal IO error ! What is not working ? .. we get internet back up we can do some checking .
[03:02] <viper474> klutz: is your network working again?
[03:03] <klutz> viper474: a lot of fatal errors... and I ran you commands from earlier and yes my network is up again... confirmed by ping.
[03:04] <viper474> klutz: sudo apt-get install elinks
[03:04] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, I prefer pastebins. I have a lot of stuff going right now  :)
[03:04] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, and a very old computer
[03:04] <Bashing-om> viper474: Yeah, I have suggested elinks, but klutz might be able to run say iceweasle or some other light weight browser - good time to test ubuntu-browser !.
[03:04] <Comviqhelpty> hmm let me play around a bit more
[03:04] <Comviqhelpty> thanks for answering :)
[03:04] <viper474> Bashing-om: klutz elinks might be faster to download
[03:05] <Seven_Six_Two> Comviqhelpty, theres a program called pastebinit that can help
[03:05] <klutz> viper474: install elinks
[03:05] <viper474> Bashing-om: I'm thinking we get that installed then try starting xfce. Copy/pasta the output with links
[03:06] <Bashing-om> viper474: -> klutz yep, small, fast and light. but it is a text based browser - command like driven.
[03:06] <klutz> Bashing-om: dlding
[03:07] <klutz> Bashing-om: ok installed
[03:07] <viper474> Bashing-om: how to paste in elinks?
[03:08] <Bashing-om> viper474: -> I just can not imagine what could be wrong with the xfce4 Window Managr on a brand spanking freash install.
[03:09] <viper474> Bashing-om: I'm trying to paste in elinks and it's a no-go with paste.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <Bashing-om> viper474 ; best I recall was ctl+c and ctl+v to paste.
[03:10] <viper474> Bashing-om: maybe ctrl+shift+c ctrl+shift+v for me
[03:10] <klutz> Bashing-om:  elinks made it to google.
[03:10] <viper474> klutz: you can CTRL+C to close it for now
[03:11] <viper474> klutz: try to start xfce again
[03:12] <Bashing-om> viper474: Looking through my pile of notes from long ago, see what I can find.
[03:12] <klutz> Bashing-om: no luck
[03:12] <klutz> Bashing-om: is there a reinstall?
[03:13] <viper474> klutz: sudo apt-get install xclip
[03:13] <viper474> klutz: we can use that to get the output xfce
[03:13] <viper474> Bashing-om: what's the command to start xfce?
[03:13] <django> is thunderbird any good?
[03:14] <klutz> viper474: xclip installed
[03:15] <Bashing-om> viper474: Start xfce -> startxfce4 <- .
[03:15] <viper474> klutz: startxfce4 | xclip -selection clipboard; elinks paste.ubuntu.com
[03:16] <Seven_Six_Two> django, yeah. I use the beta every day. I have 7 accounts
[03:16] <django> Seven_Six_Two, how do i set it up so when i get an email it just beeps...i dont have to refresh it
[03:16] <viper474> klutz: did the page pull up?
[03:17] <Seven_Six_Two> django, do you have it set to check for new messages every x minutes?
[03:17] <django> Seven_Six_Two, I guess not
[03:17] <Seven_Six_Two> django, preferences >> server settings
[03:17] <Dvorovoi> Do I need to reboot after installing things like wine?
[03:17] <klutz> viper474: I am at ubuntu pastebin now... what do I do?
[03:18] <viper474> klutz: push enter to be able to enter klutz as your poster name. Use the down arrow to get to the content area. Press enter there. Then try CTRL+SHIFT+V
[03:18] <viper474> klutz: see if it pastes...
[03:19] <viper474> klutz: if so, arrow down and press enter on Paste!
[03:19] <django> Seven_Six_Two, where is preferences?
[03:20] <Seven_Six_Two> django, the three horizontal bars at the right of your top panel
[03:21] <klutz> viper474:  did it go?
[03:21] <viper474> did it bring up a page after?
[03:22] <viper474> klutz: should have a link at the bottom of the page
[03:22] <viper474> klutz: could you type it in here?
[03:23] <django> Seven_Six_Two, lol sorry i found the thunderbir preferences now where are the server settings?
[03:23] <klutz> viper474: when I hit paste another window came up and it said do you want to paste and I said yes... no link... redo
[03:24] <Seven_Six_Two> django, Preferences >> account settings >> server settings
[03:24] <viper474> klutz: shouldn't be a link on the page. But there's a link visible at the bottom of the window if you are on top of the download as text button
[03:25] <django> Seven_Six_Two, got it..what timer do you have setup?
[03:25] <Seven_Six_Two> django, I check every 10 minutes
[03:25] <django> Seven_Six_Two, such a long time lol
[03:26] <Seven_Six_Two> django, I use IMAP so it shows up anyhow...
[03:26] <Seven_Six_Two> django, I guess I could have mentioned that.,
[03:26] <viper474> Bashing-om: bro, it's almost 10:30 here...
[03:27] <Bashing-om> viper474: 10:30 same same here too, getting close to "no longer able to think coherently" .
[03:27] <django> Seven_Six_Two, do I even have a choice..it automatically set it up as a POP Mail Server
[03:27] <viper474> Bashing-om: getting closer to "I've got work in the morning"
[03:28] <Seven_Six_Two> django, you have a choice, for sure.
[03:28] <viper474> klutz: you see the url at the bottom-left?
[03:29] <Bashing-om> viper474: I have put my time in, now-a-days I can "sleep in", problem is that after all these hours on the keyboard my mind gets real dense and hard to get things through.
[03:29] <klutz> viper474: poster is me... syntax is plain text... I go down to the bottom of the page and hit paste, it opens another window and I answer yes... Then the bottom left has text field, name poster press enter to edit.
[03:29] <Seven_Six_Two> django, right after you type in your email address and password when first setting up the account.
[03:30] <django> Seven_Six_Two, its already set up
[03:30] <Seven_Six_Two> django, if you use gmail, you have to go in to your settings in the web to enable imap access.
[03:30] <django> Seven_Six_Two, its for a website I have
[03:30] <lkthomas> hey guys, I am using tzdata to change timezone, but date still showing old timezone, anyone have idea why ?
[03:31] <Seven_Six_Two> django, I don't think you can convert it. you can create a new one, and move your emails over one folder at a time
[03:31] <viper474> klutz: on this new page after selecting yes, does it start with Download as text?
[03:31] <viper474> klutz: right under Paste from klutz on the left
[03:32] <viper474> don't select it
[03:32] <Bashing-om> lkthomas: Maybe ? edit /etc/default/rcS and add or change the following section # Set UTC=yes .
[03:32] <klutz> viper474: no plain text is chosen below poster
[03:33] <viper474> ah, so it's not getting the paste in the content section
[03:33] <django> Seven_Six_Two, i might stick to gmail its really good
[03:33] <viper474> maybe?
[03:33] <lkthomas> UTC already set to yes
[03:33] <lkthomas> if I remove /etc/localtime, seems correct
[03:33] <Seven_Six_Two> django, for web based it is! I just find a client with imap better for what I need.
[03:34] <django> Seven_Six_Two, thing is i switch between w7/ubuntu so idk if its worth having a client
[03:34] <Seven_Six_Two> django, I don't need to leave a tab open for every account, and I don't have to flip around.
[03:34] <Bashing-om> lkthomas: dual booting Windows ? and Windows setting the time as from bios ?
[03:34] <klutz> viper474: ok doing it again...
[03:34] <viper474> klutz: Poster fills out fine? Syntax as Plain is ok. Go down to Content and press enter on those lines. Then CTRL+SHIFT+V
[03:34] <floatingpoint> will a process with 20 kernel threads ALWAYS be scheduled more often than a process with 5 kernel threads?
[03:34] <Seven_Six_Two> django, with imap, the messages will stay on the server, so it doesn't matter if you switch back and forth. I use imap on my desktop and my laptop with all the same accounts
[03:34] <viper474> klutz: if you don't see stuff paste in the content section let me know
[03:35] <django> Seven_Six_Two, oh wow
[03:35] <klutz> viper474:  that is what I am not seeing.
[03:35] <viper474> klutz: try CTRL+V then
[03:35] <Seven_Six_Two> django, it's also got some chat features, and calendar with a plugin.
[03:35] <viper474> klutz if that doesn't work, try middle mouse button
[03:36] <django> Seven_Six_Two, incoming is IMAP right
[03:36] <klutz> viper474: what should it say at the bottom when content area is live?
[03:37] <Seven_Six_Two> django, different ports for imap
[03:37] <viper474> klutz: you have data in it now?
[03:37] <viper474> klutz: just arrow down and there's a Paste button below it
[03:37] <viper474> you press enter and say yes once
[03:38] <viper474> this should take you to a page with the paste with a download as text at the top
[03:38] <klutz> viper474: i have tried ctrl+v and CtRL+shift+v nothing is appearing in the body of this screen
[03:38] <abeshare> hi
[03:38] <django> Seven_Six_Two, thanks
[03:38] <viper474> klutz...ah..
[03:39] <Seven_Six_Two> klutz, what desktop?
[03:39] <viper474> klutz: startxfce4 > debug.txt; cat debug.txt | xclip -selection clipboard; elinks paste.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <Seven_Six_Two> klutz, I don't think terminal apps have access to the desktop environment's clipboard. I can only ever paste in a terminal with my mouse.
[03:40] <klutz> viper474: paste lights up when I arrow down to it.
[03:40] <viper474> Seven_Six_Two: you can send stuff to clipboard with xclip
[03:41] <viper474> klutz: just get out and try that command I sent
[03:41] <viper474> klutz: maybe that format will work better
[03:42] <django> Seven_Six_Two, by any chance do you have any experience with ubuntu laptop and dual graphics card
[03:42] <Seven_Six_Two> django, no, sorry
[03:43] <viper474> klutz: CTRL+C to leave btw
[03:44] <ramon> hello, I was trying to install php5-xdebug on my mint using synaptic but whenever i mark it for installation it prompts me that it will remove all the php5-* packages
[03:44] <klutz> viper474: ok at xclip  klutz and plain text... do you want me to scroll down and try paste?
[03:45] <rww> !mintsupport | ramon
[03:45] <viper474> klutz: arrow down to the content section, press enter, then try CTRL+SHIFT+V
[03:46] <viper474> klutz: if that doesn't work, CTRL+V. If not that, middle-click...
[03:46] <^RJ^> hello :)
[03:46] <ramon> thanks rww
[03:46] <viper474> klutz: tell me if it pastes anything in the box.
[03:47] <klutz> viper474: c+S +v nothing ctrl+v nothing... no middle buttons on lappy... both left and right tofether?
[03:47] <klutz> viper474: nothing
[03:48] <klutz> viper474: getting tired...
[03:52] <viper474> klutz, ok now I think I got it
[03:52] <django> how do you uninstall with synaptic package manger
[03:52] <klutz> viper474:  nothing is pasting into the field.
[03:52] <Radon_3> hi everyone, this is what is happening in my freshclam.log file: http://tny.cz/0c7b7dff how canI fix it?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> klutz: Change in subject, shutting down, as I start xfce in terminal, I always shut my system down from terminal; top right of xfce window is you 'username' click on it and choose "logout" and again "logout" in the resulting popup-> terminal command -> sudo shutdown -h now < -.
[03:52] <viper474> klutz: startxfce 2> debug.txt && cat debug.txt | xclip -selection clipboard && elinks paste.ubuntu.com
[03:54] <klutz> viper474:  one last try...
[03:55] <holstein> django: you can just select the packages, and right click.. you'll see options
[03:57] <klutz> viper474: nothing happened... And I am getting tired...
[03:57] <viper474> klutz: alright, let's call it a night
[03:58] <viper474> klutz: I could get output from firefox instead of startxfce
[03:58] <viper474> klutz: not sure how it may be different
[03:58] <Bashing-om> klutz: : viper474 : Me too, klutz; did you catch the shut down proceedure ?
[03:58] <klutz> viper474:  and Bashing-om thanks for all your help. if you are here tomorrow maybe I will check in...
[03:59] <klutz> Bashing-om: yes... Shutdown now.
[03:59] <abeshare> hi
[03:59] <viper474> Bashing-om: you get output with that command?
[03:59] <Bashing-om> klutz: I do expect to be here later in the eve about 1700 GMT.
[03:59] <django> holstein, i did that there isnt a delete option...even if i press delete it just highlights it; doesnt delete
[04:00] <viper474> klutz: I may be here too
[04:00] <Bashing-om> viper474: I have not ttied it, I will .. I am presently on Google-chrome.
[04:00] <holstein> django: sure. you uninstall it
[04:01] <holstein> django: you dont need to delete or remove it from the list
[04:01] <klutz> viper474: Bashing-om  thanks for all your input...
[04:01] <viper474> klutz no problem. getting a GUI will make everything much easier.
[04:04] <viper474> Bashing-om: I just noticed... that command was wrong. Should have been startxfce4
[04:05] <viper474> night all
[04:07] <Bashing-om> viper474: Nighty Night, enjoyed and Ya did learn me a thing or two, thanks too for that.
[04:08] <Radon_3> ok,Iknow freshclam is running in the background but can I some how force it to show the progress of the update?
[04:12] <owh> Radon_3: Is it updating the log?
[04:13] <Radon_3> I just removed the whole thing and I am going to install it through command this time
[04:13] <Guegs> Google Music finally available in Canada. :-D
[04:17] <xvxv> hi alleyoopster
[04:19] <lambs> hello?
[04:19] <lambs> can anyone here help me?
[04:19] <xvxv> with what
[04:19] <lambs> with getting windows back
[04:20] <FiremanEd> !ask | lambs
[04:21] <xvxv> rather than go back to windows you can use software installer to get any program you need
[04:22] <owh> lambs: Getting windows back? To what? It's box, bits on a DVD, onto your phone? What is your actual question?
[04:23] <lambs> I wanted to test out Ubuntu and installed it and everything but now I want to go back to windows, I thought I was installing it side by side (where i can switch between them) but I guess I didn't,  I have the original windows 8 disk and I am trying to reinstall windows 8 or recover it but it says I am missing a drive partition,  did I uninstall windows 8 or is it still there somehow?
[04:23] <Zeh_Gordinho> no windows back never more ...
[04:23] <Zeh_Gordinho> Sorry my late ... I was reading little things about ubuntu touch ...
[04:23] <Zeh_Gordinho> is there anyone here using it ?
[04:24] <ianorlin> !touch
[04:24] <owh> lambs: When you installed Ubuntu, did you select Use entire disk?
[04:24] <Zeh_Gordinho> yes ... was there that I was reading now ...
[04:24] <Seven_Six_Two> lambs, is it a retail cd, or a computer manufacturer disc
[04:25] <Zeh_Gordinho> but ... the IRC channel it's dead ...
[04:25] <coppercore> nah, it' sjust on life support right now
[04:25] <lambs> Owh, I might have.  Seven_six_two, how do i tell?
[04:25] <coppercore> :P
[04:25] <Zeh_Gordinho> and foruns ... I didn't get on yet
[04:25] <owh> Zeh_Gordinho: That's true for lots of channels. Just because it's dead, doesn't mean you can ask questions about every random thing here.
[04:26] <Seven_Six_Two> lambs, a retail cd doesn't come with an HP laptop
[04:26] <owh> lambs: What OS are you currently running to talk to us?
[04:26] <lambs> owh: Ubuntu
[04:26] <Jordan_U> lambs: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[04:26] <Zeh_Gordinho> yes I know ... but I came here more for a curiosity to find a user ... or anyone to discuss about it ...
[04:27]  * owh agrees with Jordan_U, lambs do that.
[04:27] <lambs> Jordan_U: 1 sec
[04:28] <lambs> http://pastebin.com/MVZuyMi1
[04:30] <owh> Jordan_U: I don't know in which order the default install side-by-side moves the partitions. Do you?
[04:32] <lambs> owh:  I am just desperate to get back to windows 8, my files aren't that big of a deal, unless they are still there and salvageable
[04:34] <owh> lambs: I understand what you're asking, but we're trying to determine if they are still there, or gone. I'm surprised you cannot boot the Windows installer disk and blow away the whole partition.
[04:34] <owh> lambs: May I ask what makes you desperate to go back to Windows?
[04:35] <lambs> owh: It also said that windows drive is locked when i try to refresh it
[04:35] <lambs> owh: i have just used windows for a very long time and I am very used to it, I just want to either use both or use windows
[04:35] <holstein> lambs: the windows installer says the driver is locked?
[04:35] <holstein> !dualboot
[04:36] <holstein> ^ thats how you do both
[04:36] <holstein> or, in virtualizaiton..
[04:36] <lambs> holstein: ya I probably messed it up pretty badly
[04:36]  * owh prefers virtualization.
[04:37] <owh> lambs: You could boot from a Ubuntu LiveCD, then remove the partitions from the drive, reboot and retry the Windows installation, but that will DESTROY everything on the drive.
[04:38] <lambs> owh: There isn't another way to get to windows?
[04:39] <lambs> owh: but if there isn't, I'm not to sure how to do what you suggest
[04:40] <lambs> owh: Also when I put in my widnows 8 disk and click install and I put in the key, it says theres an error as if its still in use or something
[04:41] <Zeh_Gordinho> owh: Virtualization didn't work for heavy process ... like 3D Drawings ...
[04:41] <owh> lambs: I cannot help you with Windows errors. I do not have that information.
[04:41] <owh> Zeh_Gordinho: I use it daily, since 2009, as my primary desktop with no issues.
[04:42] <owh> Zeh_Gordinho: Most of the things like 3D drawings is about graphics performance, not Virtualization.
[04:42] <lambs> owh: So how do i go about getting windows back?
[04:42] <owh> lambs: Do you have any data on the drive right now that you care about?
[04:43] <Zeh_Gordinho> owh: yes ... performance in virtualization is worse than use Windows directly ...
[04:43] <lambs> owh: Like I said earlier, theres nothing I extremely need but i would prefer to keep it.  But if I must get rid of it to fix this then I will
[04:43] <holstein> lambs: so, no?
[04:43] <Zeh_Gordinho> owh: for Autocad I have already changed to DraftSight ...
[04:43] <holstein> lambs: you have no data? you are ok wiping the driver?
[04:43] <Zeh_Gordinho> owh: just solid works I still have to use that bad thing ...
[04:44] <holstein> lambs: you are at a point where that information is important.. you need to stop and rescue that data, if needed
[04:44] <lambs> holstein: I attempted to wipe my computer via the windows 8 disk but it said "drive partition is missing"
[04:44] <Zeh_Gordinho> owh: I have tried lots of ways to usa solid on ubuntu ... or kubuntu ... but any worked ... do you use something like this ?
[04:45] <holstein> lambs: so, you are ok wiping the drive then? since you tried to wipe it?
[04:45] <owh> Zeh_Gordinho: This is a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic. Right now I'm trying to focus on lamb's issue.
[04:45] <lambs> holstein: yes
[04:45] <minipony> hello all
[04:45] <owh> lambs: How did you install Ubuntu the first time?
[04:46] <owh> lambs: Did you boot from a CD, a USB stick, from within Windows?
[04:46] <lambs> owh: i booted it from a USB
[04:46] <Zeh_Gordinho> owh: ok ... i will join that channel ... I didn't know it ... Thanks ...
[04:46] <owh> lambs: Boot from that USB again.
[04:46] <owh> lambs: When you have, come back to us.
[04:46] <lambs> owh: i have already
[04:47] <owh> lambs: So you're currently running that USB?
[04:47] <lambs> owh: I believe so
[04:48] <owh> Hmm. Wonder how you'd tell?
[04:48] <lambs> owh: how i would tell what?
[04:48] <owh> lambs: If you're really booted from USB, or from your installed drive.
[04:49] <holstein> lambs: reboot, with no sticks or cd's in the machine...
[04:49] <owh> holstein: That would work :-)
[04:49] <holstein> :)
[04:49] <lambs> holstein: I have done that, ubuntu doesnt open and neither does anything else
[04:49] <owh> lambs: What do you see when you do that?
[04:50] <owh> lambs: Does it say missing OS, or something like that?
[04:50] <owh> s/Does/Did/
[04:51] <lambs> own: I can't quite remember what it says, i can reboot and check if you would like
[04:51] <owh> lambs: Nevermind.
[04:51] <owh> lambs: Open up a terminal.
[04:51] <lambs> owh:  ok
[04:51] <owh> type: sudo -s <Enter>
[04:52] <owh> lambs: ^
[04:52] <lambs> owh: done
[04:52] <owh> lambs: Type: cfdisk /dev/sda <Enter>
[04:53] <lambs> owh: its giving some warning
[04:53] <owh> lambs: What does it say?
[04:53] <lambs> owh:  "warning!!  Unsuppored GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected. Use GNU parted."
[04:54] <owh> Bork.
[04:54] <owh> lambs: Close the terminal, open gparted.
[04:54] <lambs> owh:  ok
[04:55] <owh> lambs: In each partition, right click on it and select "Unmount"
[04:55] <owh> lambs: Make sure you're doing that on /dev/sda
[04:55] <owh> lambs: If it's not mounted, don't worry. Not all of them will be.
[04:56] <lambs> owh: it's showing 3, and it doesnt say unmount when i right click on any of them
[04:57] <owh> lambs: Excellent. Try to delete each one.
[04:57] <lambs> owh: delete each one? what will that do?
[04:58] <owh> lambs: It will destroy the partition table on the drive, removing any hope of recovering data from the drive. It will also empty the drive and hopefully the Windows 8 installer won't be braindead enough to deal with an empty drive.
[04:58] <lambs> owh: okay i deleted them
[04:58] <owh> lambs: Now write the changes to disk. IIRC, the command is in the Edit menu.
[04:59] <lambs> owh: how do i do that?
[04:59] <owh> lambs: One of the menu options is "Write changes", or "Apply changes", or something like that.
[05:00] <lambs> owh: apply all operations?
[05:00] <owh> lambs: Yup
[05:00] <lambs> owh: done
[05:00] <owh> holstein: Recon we need to dd the first block to zero also?
[05:01] <lambs> owh: is that all or is there more?
[05:01] <owh> lambs: Hold on.
[05:01] <lambs> owh: okay sorry
[05:02]  * owh pokes holstein.
[05:03] <owh> Nevermind. lambs, before we do more, try to boot your Windows installer.
[05:04] <lambs> owh: okay then I will be back to let you know
[05:04] <owh> :-)
[05:04] <owh> lambs: Good luck.
[05:06] <Strit> Any of you have an idea of why ubuntu 64-bit has problems shutting down my HP laptop, when Ubuntu 32-bit manages to do it? (it is a 64-bit CPU)
[05:12] <lambs> hello is owh still here?
[05:12] <owh> Yup
[05:12] <lambs> owh: I am sorry to tell you but it didnt work
[05:12] <owh> lambs: What did it do?
[05:14] <lambs> owh: I first tried using the windows 8 disk that came with my computer but refreshing it or the other thing didnt work
[05:14] <arfent> You know
[05:15] <lambs> owh: it still said that the drive is locked or the dive partition is missing
[05:15] <owh> lambs: Alright.
[05:15] <owh> lambs: Bigger hammer.
[05:15] <owh> lambs: Open up a terminal.
[05:15] <owh> lambs: type sudo -s <Enter>
[05:16] <lambs> owh: also I wanted to say I appreciate you doing this for me
[05:16] <arfent> You know, on ubuntu it's possible to make password input as stars by doing sudo visudo. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if it's possible to do this when entering passphrases into specific programs in terminal, like gpg, to get to show the passphrase as stars or as the letters themselves even
[05:16] <owh> lambs: Happy to help.
[05:16] <lambs> owh: okay i typed it
[05:17] <owh> lambs: So you now see a "#", rather than a "$" right?
[05:17] <lambs> owh: also I am afraid I might not be able to reinstall windows because the key i enter isnt working or something
[05:17] <lambs> owh: yes
[05:17] <owh> lambs: Type this: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[05:18] <lambs> owh: done
[05:18] <owh> lambs: What did it say?
[05:18] <lambs> 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.0282423 s, 18.1 kB/s
[05:18] <owh> lambs: Reboot and try Windows again. This may still not work. We might need to do more.
[05:19] <lambs> owh: okay 1 sec
[05:20] <hello_kitty> what is the difference between '/sbin/start myapp' and 'start myapp' ?
[05:20] <Beldar> lambs, How many times has that key been used?
[05:20] <owh> hello_kitty: That depends on the output of this command: which start
[05:21] <hello_kitty> owh, /sbin/start  ;)  ty
[05:21] <owh> :)
[05:21] <Beldar> lambs, In other words, how many install reinstalls
[05:22] <hello_kitty> so if I wanted to allow a git post-receive hook to start/stop a webapp -- would i thne add  admin   ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/start myapp-service /sbin/stop myapp-service   to visudo? or is that crazy talk
[05:23] <owh> hello_kitty: It doesn't sound crazy, but that doesn't make it so.
[05:23] <owh> hello_kitty: Does the webapp need to run as root?
[05:24] <hello_kitty> owh, i'm pretty new to ubuntu, but the webapp appears to run fine as my normal non-root user
[05:24] <hello_kitty> the post-receive hook on git that i use to publish also runes as my non-root user, but it doesnt seem to be able to run 'stop myapp'
[05:25] <hello_kitty> it does everything else fine though
[05:25] <owh> hello_kitty: I'd set-up a user for just that webapp and control that, rather than doing it as root.
[05:25] <hello_kitty> is there a way to get a user other than root to be able to run the upstart start/stop commands?
[05:26] <owh> hello_kitty: Just out of curiosity, why would a git post-receive need to restart the webapp?
[05:27] <hello_kitty> the webapps are in node.js, and changing the source files is insufficient to render new changes (i guess it compiles and says in memory, or something)
[05:27] <hello_kitty> *stays in memory
[05:28]  * owh is trying to think of another example where that might be true, so we can find out how they did it ;-)
[05:28] <owh> hello_kitty: Does the webapp support reload?
[05:28] <Bray90820> How would I do this in the terminal Extract the process names from a file and use a filtering command to sort and uniquely display the process names
[05:29] <owh> Bray90820: Homework again?
[05:30] <hello_kitty> owh, my control of the webapp is entirely via upstart, which daemonizes node -- otherwise it is just running  nodejs app.js from terminal
[05:30] <nd> help
[05:30] <owh> !ask|nd
[05:30] <hello_kitty> i started down the visudo path after finding this: http://superuser.com/questions/745762/how-to-execute-commands-as-root-in-git-post-receive-hook   though i wasnt sure if it was fundamentally a good idea or not
[05:31] <nd> help me ! alsa is not working
[05:31] <nd> owh can you suggest some ways my alsamixer is not working i tried renstalin reloading evrything
[05:31] <owh> hello_kitty: Hmm. I cannot say I'm convinced.
[05:32] <hello_kitty> owh, i also end up making new apps and connecting them to upstart (and monit) at the rate of several per week... it woudl be nice not be adding dozens of permissions to visudo
[05:33] <hello_kitty> i'm pretty new to ubuntu, its fully possible that im missing more obvious options
[05:33] <owh> hello_kitty: Which is why I suspect that the last person wrote the last comment.
[05:33] <nd> hello-kitty can u help my ubuntu not makin any sound
[05:33] <owh> hello_kitty: I'm having a look-see. Stick around.
[05:34] <owh> Doh. hello_kitty, that's what the service command does. service <thing> start
[05:35] <lambs> owh are you still here?
[05:36] <owh> lambs: Yup.
[05:36] <lambs> I wanna ask you something
[05:37] <lambs> owh: first off, I have been going to the bios stuff when my computer is starting up and changing my boot thing there, should i be doing that?
[05:37] <owh> lambs: If you need to swap between USB, CD and HDD, probably.
[05:38] <nd> owh lambs can any one of u suggest me some ways regarding no sound issue in my ubuntu
[05:38] <lambs> owh: another thing, would whatever we're doing work if i just try to refresh or reset my pc, or would i have to reinstall windows 8?
[05:38] <kolkoprt> Hi guys. I have an issue. Spellcheck in libreoffice in 12.04 (it's default, not the ppa version) doesn't work even though i have aspell and my local language pack installed. Any help?
[05:39] <owh> nd, people will respond if they have an answer. There are 1636 people here, some of whom can help you. Ask your question, tell us what you've tried and see what happens.
[05:39] <Beldar> lambs, Are you trying to use the key on the computers tag?
[05:39] <owh> lambs: What do you mean, "refresh or reset"
[05:41] <lambs> owh: well when I run the windows 8 disk I can refresh or reset my pc (resetting removes everything)
[05:41] <nd> alsamixer is not responding
[05:41] <owh> lambs: It's already gone, so yes. Also Beldar has been asking you about keys which could be extremely relevant.
[05:41] <hello_kitty> owh, interesting that  adding    sudo -u myuser service mysite.com stop    *seems* to run fine from within the post-receive script.. needs a litle mroe testing
[05:42] <lambs> owh: so i would need to reinstall windows 8?
[05:42] <owh> nd, that is not a question.
[05:42] <owh> lambs: Isn't that what you've been trying to do?
[05:43] <yanpenn> how to show hidden/dot files in vifm
[05:43] <owh> hello_kitty: Seems logical, since you're going to be triggering it by playing with git. Not sure if it would work if you're automagically running git commands on a cron-job for example.
[05:43] <lambs> owh: I'm not sure, i thought we earased all the data from it but it was still installed
[05:43] <student> hi
[05:43] <owh> lambs: No, your drive is empty.
[05:44] <lambs> owh: so I need to buy another windows 8 disk then?
[05:44] <student> how can i remove a OS
[05:44] <owh> yanpenn: http://bit.ly/1iXfZEH
[05:44] <owh> lambs: No, what are you trying to install Windows from?
[05:44] <lambs> owh: the windows 8 disk that came with my desktop
[05:45] <owh> lambs: So, when you boot from that, you can run the installer. Did you look at Beldar's questions?
[05:45] <nd> okhay i typed alsamixer in terminal it shows no such directory y it happening?
[05:45] <owh> student: Which OS do you want to remove, from where, using what OS, in what way.
[05:45] <kolkoprt> anyone?
[05:45] <lambs> owh: i didnt understand his question
[05:45] <student> how can i remove a Os?
[05:46] <yanpenn> owh: is there a original url?i cannot open the bit.ly/****
[05:46] <owh> yanpenn: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vifm+show+dot+files
[05:46] <lambs> owh: oh now i get his question, yes i am.
[05:47] <student> owh
[05:47] <student> owh
[05:47] <kolkoprt> student: just format the drive you have the os installed on
[05:47] <student> i have 2 Os in that drive
[05:48] <owh> kolkoprt: The last time I played with dictionaries I seem to recall that you need to have some link stuff installed that links OOo to aspell.
[05:48] <hello_kitty> thanks for the help owh :)
[05:48] <lambs> beldar: how else would i do it?
[05:48] <owh> hello_kitty: Hope it worked.
[05:49] <kolkoprt> owh: anyway to hit me up with a link? much obliged
[05:49] <student> kolkoprt
[05:49] <yanpenn> owh:thanks,"zo" is typed directly,but not in the column,it works
[05:50] <owh> yanpenn: Glad it worked for you.
[05:50] <kolkoprt> student: what's your partition table and what do you want to delete
[05:50] <kolkoprt> and i meant partition, not drive, sorry
[05:50] <owh> kolkoprt: I cannot find what I remember, but this seems to cover it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72099/how-to-install-a-libreoffice-dictionary-spelling-check-thesaurus
[05:51] <lambs> owh: so do I have to get a new disk or is there anything i can do?
[05:51] <kolkoprt> great owh: very thankful!
[05:51] <owh> lambs: When you boot your Windows 8 installer disk, what options to you have to install Windows?
[05:51] <owh> nd, do you have any .wav files on your computer?
[05:52] <student> C,E,D and i want to remove windows
[05:52] <lambs> owh: there not that many options, just to install or to run the troubleshooter
[05:52] <owh> student: Do you want to remove Windows while you're running Windows?
[05:52] <student> yes
[05:52] <owh> lambs: Exactly two options or more?
[05:53] <owh> student: I'd ask that in #windows
[05:54] <lambs> owh: well the "refresh and reset" stuff I was talking about earlier were under troubleshooter, but yes 2
[05:55] <owh> lambs: It's beginning to sound like a Windows specific issue, not any longer to do with Ubuntu.
[05:55] <student> owh: what should i do?
[05:56] <lambs> owh: well i thought you could still help me out after everything we've been through, but i guess i could try windows support
[05:56] <owh> lambs: I suspect if the Install option doesn't work, which makes no sense to me, then the only alternative you have is to choose the other option and to go through them one at a time.
[05:56] <owh> lambs: I am not familiar with Windows 8. I stopped paying attention at Windows XP.
[05:56] <nd> owh yes i have
[05:57] <owh> nd: What happens if you type: play <.wav>
[05:57] <lambs> owh: like i said before when i go to the other options i get the "drive partition is missing" or "drive is locked"
[05:58] <owh> lambs: Even after we emptied the drive?
[05:58] <owh> lambs: Have a look at this suggestion: http://www.eightforums.com/installation-setup/22690-windows-8-failure-reinstall-hard-drive-locked.html
[05:58] <student> owh help me
[05:58] <nd> it plays im using audicous but no sound
[05:59] <nd> owh it plays im using audicous but no sound
[05:59] <owh> nd: No, I'm trying to get you to use the "play" command.
[05:59] <owh> student: Sorry, we don't do windows support around here.
[06:00] <lambs> owh: okay i will try that out
[06:00] <owh> lambs: That's as much as I can do for you.
[06:00] <owh> lambs: Google is your friend. Type your error message into Google and see what you get.
[06:02] <lambs> owh: i've been trying to fix this for 6-7 hours now
[06:02] <lambs> owh: i have been googling like a mad man
[06:03] <owh> lambs: I understand your frustration, but I'm not able to help. The basic problem appears to be that your installer is broken. The repair option might allow you to boot into a DOS-like window where you might be able to format the drive. You may need to run fdisk from within that, reboot, then format the drive, then run the installer.
[06:03] <nd> owh i jst installed play and then played a wav file but still no sound
[06:03] <Comviqhelpty> Hi how can i stop in linux to display other computers close to me
[06:03] <owh> lambs: This is based on 35 years of IT, not based on Windows 8.
[06:03] <Comviqhelpty> disable the "domain" sharing group or what you call it
[06:04] <dioioib> lambs: pm me with your issue.
[06:04] <lambs> owh: I am very thankful for all your help, I'm just a little upset on how stupid I am and that it might be a problem with the key and nothing else :/
[06:04] <owh> nd what happens if you run speaker-test
[06:05] <lambs> dioioib: how do i pm?
[06:06] <Comviqhelpty> Please someone I dont want people to see me in my network and i dont want to see other pcs in my network
[06:06] <Comviqhelpty> how can i turn this feature of
[06:07] <owh> Comviqhelpty: Are the computers you're seeing Windows computers?
[06:07] <Comviqhelpty> yes!
[06:07] <Comviqhelpty> and i dont like them at all
[06:08] <owh> Comviqhelpty: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27749/how-do-i-make-ubuntu-system-invisible-to-other-systems-on-wireless-network
[06:08] <nd> owh it shows some output  and owh i lost my volume button from right side top corner .a new bug i guess
[06:08] <lambs> owh: can I ask another quick question?
[06:08] <owh> lambs: Fire away.
[06:08] <lambs> owh: so the problem before was that I didnt do a duel setup?
[06:09] <owh> lambs: That's what it looks like, but I'm not sure because you don't remember.
[06:09] <owh> nd Can you hear anything when you run speaker-test?
[06:10] <lambs> owh: so lets say for example I bough another windows 8 disk or installed it succesfully, would i still have the problem from before or?
[06:10] <nd> owh no
[06:10] <owh> lambs: I wouldn't be buying another Windows 8 disk just yet. I don't know about what problem you mean.
[06:11] <owh> nd which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:11] <Comviqhelpty> owh: that looked fairly complex. there is no setting i can just set to not view these computers?
[06:11] <lambs> owh: well I guess before i installed Ubuntu and uninstalled windows right?
[06:11] <nd> saucy salamander
[06:11] <nd> owh saucy salamnder
[06:11] <Comviqhelpty> im worried if i play to much with firewalls and / removing samba I cannot have internet from my host OS (im guest vm)
[06:12] <owh> Comviqhelpty: So, you're running Ubuntu in a guest?
[06:12] <Comviqhelpty> yes owh
[06:12] <owh> lambs: I don't know what you mean. If you successfully reinstall Windows it will be like Ubuntu was never there.
[06:13] <Comviqhelpty> im thinking if someone grants unauthorised access to my VM i dont want them to see my Host in same network
[06:13] <owh> Comviqhelpty: The firewall rules are intended inside the guest.
[06:13] <lambs> owh: so reinstalling windows will get rid of Ubuntu?
[06:13] <owh> lambs: It's already gone. You're just running Ubuntu from your USB stick right now.
[06:13] <lambs> owh: okay good
[06:14] <Comviqhelpty> owh: sorry i am a little bit noob, what do you mean they are intended inside of the guest
[06:14] <lambs> owh: well i'm going to try that link you have me a bit ago
[06:15] <lambs> owh: even if this doesnt work or anything, i really appriciate you helping me
[06:15] <owh> Comviqhelpty: What is your Host OS?
[06:15] <Comviqhelpty> Windows
[06:15] <owh> lambs: Sorry I couldn't do more for you.
[06:15] <cactuswizard> i got no sound on my computer anymore
[06:16] <owh> Comviqhelpty: It's like pulling teeth. So Host OS is Windows, Guest OS is Ubuntu, you want to hide your Ubuntu Guest from the world?
[06:16] <owh> cactuswizard: Talk to nd, he's got the same issue.
[06:16] <cactuswizard> owh: thanks, i'll do that
[06:16] <Comviqhelpty> Well, on my guest I see the host.. and connected pcs to the host as well (in same LAN)
[06:17] <Comviqhelpty> I dont want to see them, most importantly
[06:17] <Comviqhelpty> but also would be good if they don't see me also
[06:17] <owh> Comviqhelpty: You can setup your VM environment on a different sub-net and a different work-group. It shouldn't show up. No firewall updates needed on Ubuntu.
[06:17] <yanpenn> is there a open source flash Player that can be used in chromium
[06:17] <Comviqhelpty> I dont want if I let access to this host remotely, be able to see my host
[06:18] <Comviqhelpty> i picked the domain blank, just because i thought it would not be on same work group
[06:18] <owh> Comviqhelpty: Security through obscurity is a waste of time. What are you actually trying to protect.
[06:18] <Comviqhelpty> how can i edit my workgroup on Ubuntu? In windows i go to system and change it there
[06:18] <nd> cactuswizard can u type alsa mixer in terminal
[06:18] <cactuswizard> nd: yeah
[06:19] <SlF> Workgroup is only needed for smb I think
[06:19] <Comviqhelpty> owh: well basicly I am thinking if i want to be completely anonymous on my guest. i would not want my NAME (name of the pc) to be shown in the network for one
[06:19] <nd> cactuswizard does alsamixer is workin
[06:19] <Comviqhelpty> i want to use my guest VM to surf anonymous through TOR network and use sock 5
[06:19] <greybrd> my functions keys like F5, F6 and F7 are not working alone. but works along with Super key ( fn ). I'm using a HP 450 notbook. how to do make them to work alone, as like a normal function keys... ? Please help me to achieve this.
[06:19] <SlF> yanpenn: Try the flash installer
[06:19] <Comviqhelpty> what i dont want is my name to be visible in a folder inside the network, it psychologically atleast worries me
[06:20] <SlF> greybrd: Try to change the behaviour in the keyboard settings
[06:20] <owh> Comviqhelpty: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2102486
[06:20] <SlF> it's somethink like "Invert bla bla"
[06:20] <cactuswizard> nd: Master seems to be red, as in some problems in there possibly 'cause everything else is in white...
[06:21] <greybrd> SlF: ohhh... but I tried changing the keyboard layout. will that help? but for me it didn't. Am I looking into a wrong option?
[06:21] <SlF> No this is not the right option
[06:21] <yanpenn> SlF:what is flash installer?a program?
[06:22] <SlF> Yeah
[06:22] <SlF> It installs Flash for you
[06:22] <SlF> google it
[06:22] <cactuswizard> nd: oh, wrong assumption
[06:22] <nd> cactuswizard u can control volume output from there also u can install alsamixer in gui from software centre in my case alsa mixer not workin:(
[06:22] <Comviqhelpty> changed workgroup and restarting. see if it changes :)
[06:23] <cactuswizard> nd: yes
[06:23] <Comviqhelpty> owh: I have a general question. If I would surf the net with a prepaid surf in my guest. Is there someway my HOST ip would be revealed somehow surfing the net
[06:24] <Comviqhelpty> prepaid USB dongle of some sort
[06:24] <nd> m about to uninstall saucy slamander its full of bugs can any one suggest me stable version?
[06:25] <Beldar> nd, stable is an opinion.
[06:25] <Comviqhelpty> btw thanks owh. that workgroup name change did the work :)
[06:26] <nd> beldar ive experience no. of bugs and rite now where is my volume control button go no one knows ?:@
[06:26] <cactuswizard> hmm, maybe i could try restarting ubuntu, if the problem was that I had my phone recharging over night from usb
[06:28] <nd> cactuswizard is your problm soled fella ?
[06:28] <cactuswizard> nd: no, i try rebooting if it solves my problem
[06:29] <karab44> Where I can order Ubuntu T-Shirt ?
[06:29] <karab44> There are some major and minor issues with Ubuntu but 14.04 is best Release ever and I am proud of using it
[06:30] <karab44> and I want t-shirt :)
[06:30] <karab44> shop.ubuntu.com  OK :P
[06:30] <Beldar> nd, That is a weak rhetoric, it means nothing.
[06:31] <SlF> Use ubuntu 14.04
[06:31] <nd> beldar help me fixing alsamixer
[06:32] <Beldar> nd, Not an area I know really, I would if I did.
[06:32] <Guest90798> hello
[06:32] <Guest90798> hw are u guys
[06:33] <nd> beldar which version u usin? ubuntu?
[06:33] <Comviqhelpty> damn that guy was awesome, where did he go
[06:34] <Beldar> nd, 14.04, 14.10, trisquel and W8.1
[06:34] <Guest90798> i have deleled /boot on a linux OS installed on VM.
[06:34] <Guest90798> Now i have boot the machine with a live CD.
[06:34] <Guest90798> Chroot /mnt/sysimage into the system
[06:34] <Guest90798> Fdisk gives me /dev/sda1 as well as /dev/sda2
[06:34] <Guest90798> Also /dev/mapper/Volgroup-lv_root and /dev/mapper/volgroup-lv_swap
[06:34] <Guest90798> df -hT show to me file system is ext4
[06:34] <unopaste> Guest90798 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:34] <nd> 14.04 beta version beldar
[06:34] <Beldar> nd, 14.04 is released
[06:36] <nd> beldar when i type cd /mnt and then ls it shows nothing even if had mounted the drives and many bugs
[06:36] <yanpenn> SlF: i install flashplugin-installer,it get adobe flash player,but not open source
[06:37] <cactuswizard> nd: didn't solve the problem, wondering if soundcard driver is the issue because tried using headset yesterday
[06:38] <sreekumar> I installed 14.04 but it it got stuck on boot with "the system is running in low-graphics mode".
[06:38] <new0> is there a way to disable the text speach on Ubuntu Login screen?
[06:38] <nd> cactuswizard type sudo force-reload alsamixer
[06:38] <sreekumar> I tried all suggestions in  Ubuntu forums
[06:39] <glumetu> hello i'm ashame to ask this but how can i get back to normal windows behaviour of Alt key i'm using cairo dock as interface (witch uses gnome .. i belive)
[06:39] <nd> cactuswizard are u usin saucy salamander
[06:42] <cactuswizard> nd: not sure what name 14.04 is
[06:42] <nd> na its not ok u typed that command wt happens ? cactuswizard
[06:43] <Beldar> trusty tyrant
[06:43] <cactuswizard> nd: says force-reload: command not found
[06:43] <Beldar> ;)
[06:43] <sreekumar> I installed Ububtu 14.04 but it it got stuck on boot with "the system is running in low-graphics mode".
[06:43] <cactuswizard> Beldar: thanks :)
[06:43] <nd> sudo force-reload alsamixer    cactuswizard
[06:45] <cactuswizard> nd: response is still sudo: force-reload: command not found
[06:47] <nd> its sudo(space)force-reload(space)alsamixer cactuswizard
[06:47] <lambs> hey is owh still here?
[06:48] <Wobbo> Is there an ubuntu software where, for assignments example daily terminal commands?
[06:49] <sreekumar> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 but it got stuck on boot with "the system is running in low-graphics mode".  I tried all suggestions in  Ubuntu forums.
[06:49] <volkan> How can I uninstall reaver-1.4?
[06:49] <lambs> no owh?
[06:49] <cactuswizard> nd: yeah i know, i'm not new to ubuntu since been using occasionally since 10.something
[06:51] <nd> sudo alsa force-reload cactuswizard sorry as i told u before alsa is not workin for me but u try this
[06:51] <awestroke> anyone had problems going from saucy to trusty? any broken packages?
[06:52] <volkan> How can I uninstall reaver-1.4?
[06:53] <cactuswizard> nd: okay i try that one and tell u if it works
[06:54] <antonio_> How can I do a complete uninstall via term?
[06:55] <sreekumar> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 but it got stuck on boot with "the system is running in low-graphics mode".  I tried almost all suggestions in  Ubuntu forums.Can anyone help me?
[06:55] <cactuswizard> nd: didn't work, trying to find the solution from askubuntu
[06:56] <Beldar> sreekumar, You getting to the desktop?
[06:56] <nd> cactuswizard try reinstalling alsa-utilis pakage
[06:57] <sreekumar> laptop@Beldar
[06:57] <Beldar> awestroke, State the actual issues, that is unanswerable
[06:57] <Beldar> sreekumar, By desktop I mean the ubuntu desktop.
[06:57] <wvb> There must be some problem with your graphic card or its drivers.
[06:57] <awestroke> Beldar: I have no actual issues, but last time I upgraded to a new ubuntu version shit broke (skype for example)
[06:58] <sreekumar> @Beldar Ubuntu dektop
[06:58] <Beldar> awestroke, Don't swear here, thise kinds of questions are at best opinion based. Everyone has a different setup, there are to many outliers.
[06:59] <Beldar> sreekumar, Do you understand english?
[06:59] <awestroke> Beldar: You must have misunderstood, I did not swear any oath
[07:00] <sreekumar> ya @Beldar
[07:01] <Dazax> Bien le bonjour!
[07:01] <volkan> How can I uninstall reaver-1.4?
[07:01] <antonio_> How can I do a complete uninstall via term?
[07:02] <volkan> antonio_,  sud apt-get remove <name>
[07:02] <oneof3> hello. is there a way to clear terminals text history? of past commands
[07:02] <antonio_> thanks volkan:
[07:02] <sreekumar> Beldar, can you explain your question?
[07:03] <zylophone> hi, is it possible to adjust the volume in each ear with alsamixer?
[07:03] <zylophone> like a stereo balance i guess
[07:03] <Beldar> sreekumar, No, you will another's help.
[07:03] <[Jano]> antonio_: sudo apt-get remove --purge reaver
[07:03] <qin_> antonio_: well, apt-get remove --purge package; will still leave stuff in $HOME
[07:04] <cactuswizard> nd: didn't work, still no sound
[07:06] <cloudgeek> how to configure bridge mode for the kvm Hypervisor ??
[07:06] <sreekumar> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 but it got stuck on boot with "the system is running in low-graphics mode".  I tried all suggestions in  Ubuntu forums. http://askubuntu.com/questions/461559/stuck-in-low-graphics-mode-in-live-cd-as-well-as-in-normal-boot-after-insatllati
[07:07] <nd> cactuswizard sudo  gedit  /etc/default/speech-dispatcher      file will open turn yes to no and if it is no then leave it    save the file and chk your sound
[07:09] <nd> cactuswizard  which is your fav version of ubuntu have u tried other distros
[07:10] <Psil0Cybin> hey can someone help me understand this, why is my ufw log filled with these lines, is somthing fishie going on? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7403020/
[07:11] <Kartagis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/460485/use-kernel-driver-for-intel-graphics <--- can I get help with this please?
[07:11] <sreekumar> After choosing Ubuntu from grub menu,instead of loading login window it shows "the system is running in low-graphics mode" @Beldar .
[07:11] <Aki-Thinkpad> && is for "and". Is there a symbol for "or" [inclusive]?
[07:12] <cactuswizard> nd: i have tried fedora, damn small linux and knoppix, but i prefer ubuntu
[07:12] <sanjud>  /msg NickServ identify
[07:13] <sanjud>  /msg NickServ identify
[07:13] <sanjud>  /msg NickServ identify mycha
[07:14] <nd> cactuswizard wt about mint and puppy slacko and off course most stable debian?
[07:14] <cactuswizard> nd: haven't tried those yet, but maybe someday
[07:17] <sreekumar> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 but it got stuck on boot with "the system is running in low-graphics mode".  I tried all suggestions in  Ubuntu forums. http://askubuntu.com/questions/461559/stuck-in-low-graphics-mode-in-live-cd-as-well-as-in-normal-boot-after-insatllati
[07:17] <nd> will
[07:24] <phuh> Is it bad to use unattended-upgrades?
[07:24] <phuh> on a production server
[07:24] <cactuswizard> nd: btw searched askubuntu for solution, nothing conclusive came out but someone else has/had the same problem that I have, computer on over night and in the morning sounds were gone, so maybe i'll try reinstalling ubuntu when i have more time to do that
[07:27] <ubuntuser13> network signal continously fluctuating from umts to edge and disconnecting.
[07:29] <redy> hi guys . i want make soft link on ubuntu 14.04 . but receive this error
[07:29] <cactuswizard> ubuntuser13: try using only UMTS, it has worked to me every time i have the same problem
[07:30] <redy> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so
[07:30] <redy> please see error
[07:31] <redy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7403068/
[07:31] <ubuntuser13> cactuswizard: i tried it,but on rebooting it happens again.
[07:33] <dekatch> hi. can i upgrade from 12.04 to a 14.04?
[07:34] <Seveas> dekatch: yes LTS-to-LTS upgrades are supported
[07:34] <dekatch> hi Seveas , would you suggest it? I am on amd 5350kabini with radeon r3 apu
[07:34] <dekatch> hardware from 04/2014...
[07:34] <varunendra> redy, do you want to create the ...libGL.so.1 link to ....libGL.so file? see "ln --help"
[07:35] <dekatch> i wonder if it'll work as flawlessly as on 12.04
[07:35] <Seveas> dekatch: I would back up first, but yeah, I would suggest it
[07:35] <Seveas> though I have never done that myself, I track normal releases
[07:35] <dekatch> Seveas, had the latest linux mint installed. it didnt offer me suitable drivers at all
[07:36] <cactuswizard> ubuntuser13: have you tried searching askubuntu?
[07:36] <dekatch> didnt get apu to work at all. had to do cpu rendering to even show the desk
[07:36] <dekatch> linux mint is based on ubuntu. thats why i wondering
[07:36] <redy> varunendra : ubuntu say file exist .
[07:36] <ubuntuser13> cactuswizard: no
[07:37] <dekatch> have 3d accell and everything working with 12.04 now. i am tbh happy with the install. i only would upgrade when i can make sure the 14.04 drivers are at least as good as on 12.04
[07:37] <Seveas> dekatch: try a live cd first to see if Ubuntu works well with your hardware
[07:37] <orion1111> Will Mir have option for displaying window shadows?
[07:37] <dekatch> ye. well
[07:38] <varunendra> redy_, yeah, I saw that error. It simply means the file is already there. Further means that probably you are not using the command in correct form. Which one is the expected link in your command?
[07:38] <cactuswizard> ubuntuser13: try searching there, maybe someone has or had same problem
[07:38] <redy_> varunendra : ubuntu say file exist .
[07:39] <dekatch> Seveas, well thank you. i try a live cd first
[07:39] <varunendra> redy_, in your original command, which one is the original file, and which one is the expected soft-link?
[07:41] <redy_> can you see this link
[07:41] <redy_> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2276481
[07:41] <redy_> please see step 3
[07:43] <mozzarella> guys I need help
[07:43] <dekatch> how to tell the stupid google chrome browser to not ask for a password for keyring. on a windows install google chrome is capable of using the account password. even though its not recommended on windows but it at least offers me that option
[07:44]  * dekatch figured that google sucks :)
[07:44] <dekatch> data** ofc. only data :)
[07:45] <varunendra> redy_, I can't say for others, but for Ubuntu I believe that command is outright wrong. I suggest you see "ln --help" to see the four ways the command can be used in.
[07:46] <redy_> if ubuntu say file exist then there is no problem , right ?
[07:46] <dekatch> mozzarella, i suggest balsamico vingegar
[07:46] <dekatch> vinegar*
[07:46] <mozzarella> I try to run gnome-terminal -e command
[07:46] <mozzarella> but it doesn't work
[07:47] <dekatch> hehe. no. Do not ask to ask :)
[07:47] <mozzarella> it says "no such file"
[07:47] <mozzarella> looks like the path isn't correct
[07:47] <mozzarella> although it works if I type it manually inside a gnome-terminal instance
[07:48] <somsip> mozzarella: what 'command' are you running?
[07:48] <mozzarella> download_porn_from_clipboard which is an executable inside ~/bin (sorry for the file name, btw)
[07:50] <somsip> mozzarella: possibly the path to ~/bin isn't exported to Run, whereas it is exported to a running terminal. Try using the full path  /home/mozzarella/bin/download...
[07:50] <varunendra> redy_, depends on where the correct link was supposed to be, and whether that command is right.
[07:51] <mozzarella> somsip: it works
[07:51] <mozzarella> it was working on fedora, though (without appending ~/bin/)
[07:52] <mozzarella> is that weird?
[07:52] <somsip> mozzarella: not sure how $PATH is affected by commands to Run as I never use it, but there you go.
[07:52] <dekatch> there you go fap fap? lol
[07:52] <dekatch> the only weird thing was your file name
[07:53] <varunendra> redy_, just tested that command with the file, and seems it is okay. So yeah, the file should already be there. You can check it with "ls" command or by manually browsing to the directory.
[07:53] <ShutemDown> Hello friends, what is the best way to disable ACPI?  I'm tired of the NSA riding my D
[07:54] <ShutemDown> should i disable in GRUB or within linux?
[07:54] <mozzarella> yeah sorry for the file name
[07:54] <Ben64> ShutemDown: you shouldn't disable it at all
[07:54] <dekatch> ShutemDown, the nsa throws all the data to /dev/null. they only interact with those who try to hide them out
[07:55] <ShutemDown> Shuttleworth says its a trojan so it has to go
[07:56] <tirengarfio> firefox is not being completely closed..
[07:56] <ShutemDown> dekatch: you keep thinking that
[07:56] <tirengarfio> I have tried alt-f4, pkill firefox, killall firefox
[07:57] <tirengarfio> but the empty window remains..
[07:58] <dekatch> ShutemDown, here some more feeding for your paranoia http://techreport.com/news/25923/report-nsa-can-hack-offline-computers-via-radio-waves
[07:58] <ShutemDown> the fuck?
[07:58] <CornishPasty> Did you know the NSA can also read your thoughts? Better get some tinfoil!
[07:59] <ShutemDown> maybe that's why you're in denial, because you read stuff like that.  Maybe pick up a paper from 2014
[07:59] <bazhang> !ot | ShutemDown
[07:59] <bazhang> ShutemDown, please keep the language civil as well
[07:59] <dekatch> well,. January 15, 2014 is pretty much a paper from 2014
[08:00] <bazhang> dekatch, please take that elsewhere
[08:00]  * dekatch hides it out
[08:00] <Kartagis> !language | ShutemDown
[08:01] <ShutemDown> !language Kartagis
[08:08] <sec_> if Segmentation fault (core dumped), where can the core file stored?
[08:11] <yanpenn> how to set alpine using gmail?
[08:12] <yanpenn> where to set smtp and imap
[08:13] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/130899/how-can-i-configure-alpine-to-read-my-gmail-in-ubuntu yanpenn
[08:16] <bluezone> There's a compiz crash bug that's really been getting on my nerves lately and it's priority on launchpad is only medium. is there any way i can get involved and attempt to fix it myself?
[08:17] <bluezone> this is the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1284898
[08:18] <bazhang> bluezone, as in subscribe to the bug, give reports, and get emails/updates as they progress?
[08:18] <bluezone> that, but id also like to perhaps look at the code too?
[08:19] <bazhang> bluezone, is there not an option on the page to subscribe etc?
[08:19] <Kartagis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/460485/use-kernel-driver-for-intel-graphics <--- can I get help with this please?
[08:20] <Kartagis> !find flash
[08:20] <davidrsmorris> Hey, how do I check if texLive is checking /usr/share/local/texmf?  Either I did something weird installing biblatex-apa, or that is the case.
[08:21] <bluezone> bazhang, yes, but do you know how to actually get involved into trying to fix it?
[08:22] <Radon_3> hi again, can someone please give me a hand with this: http://goldendict.org/buildfromgit.php? or maybe a hint? I want to install the software but don't know how. So far I have installed all the packages it requires prerior to build.
[08:23] <bazhang> bluezone, by subscribing, and submitting reports, yes; thats the first step to involvement. whoever is in charge of that bug is the person to keep abreast of developments, submitting fixes etc
[08:24] <bluezone> ok
[08:25] <qin_> Radon_3: You know that there is Dicd and some gtk ui to it in repos?
[08:26] <Radon_3> can it also install babylon bgl files?
[08:26] <Radon_3> I mean babylon dictionaries?
[08:26] <iotoolow> hello everyone
[08:26] <Radon_3> hi iotoolow
[08:26] <jackbrown> could anyone explain me which is the advantage to have a DLNA server running instead of just streaming a media file froma  Samba  network ??????????????????
[08:26] <awestroke> I currently boot to ubuntu via uefi, however I need to switch to legacy (csm?) boot due to a bug. when I switch in uefi, ubuntu won't boot. Do I need to completely reinstall ubuntu with CSM turned on or can I somehow configure ubuntu (grub?) to boot without uefi
[08:27] <qin_> Radon_3: and: sudo apt-get install goldendict
[08:27] <ekarlso> is it normal to see packet loss on nics with jumbo frames ?
[08:28] <Radon_3> omg, I have installed all those packages, should I remove them?
[08:28] <qin_> jackbrown: extensibility, I guess
[08:28] <Radon_3> I didn't know about sudo apt-get install goldendict
[08:28] <jackbrown> qin_: what do you mean ?
[08:29] <Radon_3> should I remove libvorbis-dev, zlib1g-dev, libhunspell-dev, x11proto-record-dev, qt4-qmake, libqt4-dev, g++, libxtst-dev, libphonon-dev, liblzo2-dev, libbz2-dev, libao-dev, libavutil-dev, libavformat-dev ?
[08:29] <iotoolow> I just got troubles with pc running 14.04, uptime 15 days, yesterday noticed huge slowdown, I've run hdparm on all three disks: timing buffred disk reads are about 1 MB/s on all drives (1 samsung ssd and 2 seagate hdds) How to find out the reason?
[08:30] <qin_> jackbrown: I suspect that media server have better ability to gather, manage and distribute content than windows share
[08:30] <Arun__> Hi, how can i install git-cola 2.0.2 in my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[08:30] <jackbrown> qin_: ok thansk
[08:30] <jackbrown> thanks
[08:30] <Ben64> iotoolow: could be bad motherboard, cables, excessive io, or a host of other problems
[08:31] <bazhang> Arun__, 1.9.3 is in the repos, why the need for the higher number
[08:31] <iotoolow> Ben64: any way to determine exact reason?
[08:31] <Arun__> 1.9.3 has some problems while pulling and pushing.
[08:31] <iotoolow> i don't think all three cables suddenly damages
[08:31] <Ben64> iotoolow: eliminate possibilities
[08:31] <bazhang> Arun__, so compile or find a PPA
[08:32] <qin_> Radon_3: well, simply: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:32] <Radon_3> oh, I see thank you
[08:32] <Arun__> I am new, I don't know how to compile. I've downloaded the latest tar and extracted it in my desktop.
[08:32] <Radon_3> I am still a beginner and I am sorry about that
[08:32] <Radon_3> But I am learning
[08:33] <Radon_3> thank you channel
[08:33] <bazhang> !compile | Arun__
[08:34] <bazhang> Arun__, if you are a very new user, and want to start compiling, there is a considerable amount of prepatory reading you will need to do prior. or you could simply sudo apt-get install git-cola
[08:34] <antonio__> Has anyone used Helium to backup an android phone?
[08:35] <bazhang> !info helium
[08:35] <bazhang> antonio__, how is that ontopic for here
[08:35] <antonio_> bazhang: because its not working correctly in ubuntu:
[08:35] <bazhang> antonio_, what is helium, whats the connection to ubuntu
[08:36] <antonio_> bazhang: its an application to backup android phones...and it runs in Ubuntu...so thats the connection
[08:36] <k1l_> antonio_: http://www.clockworkmod.com/carbon
[08:37] <bazhang> antonio_, I dont see this app in the repos, is there a link for that?
[08:40] <qin_> What would be lightweight lan hog detector, preferably without monitor mode, since Broadcom seem to be against it.
[08:48]  * [gnubie] waves
[08:49] <[gnubie]> OT] any recommended enterprise SSD that is fully supported by smartmontools? thanks.
[08:50] <Ben64> if you know its offtopic, why even ask here?
[08:50] <bazhang> [gnubie], ask in ##hardware
[08:51] <[gnubie]> Ben64: well, i mentioned smartmontools and forgot to mention that it is on top of ubuntu.
[08:52] <bazhang> [gnubie], its still not on topic here, please ask in the appropriate place, thanks
[08:53] <[gnubie]> bazhang: sorry. which place?
[08:54] <[gnubie]> maybe i should re-construct my question..
[08:54] <gmachine_24> I have a dual-boot win 7 / ubuntu 12.04; if I boot to linux can I use gparted or whatever to kill the windows partitions because the windows os won't boot (i've tried lots of repairs)
[08:54] <bazhang> [gnubie], -------> ##hardware
[08:54] <[gnubie]> does anyone here uses an enterprise ssd on top of ubuntu that is being monitored by smartmontools?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> gmachine_24 you can delete the win7 part.  then update grub to remove it
[08:56] <gmachine_24> cfhowlett, thanks.... I'm having another problem as well; at the moment I can only boot to a command prompt on the ubuntu install; I should have copied down the error but it says the x whatever is ... well it won't start and I should contact "the administrator"; who, sadly, is me
[08:56] <cfhowlett> gmachine_24 more data required ... sorry.
[08:57] <antonio_> Does anyone know how to root a motorola droid via Ubuntu SAFELY?
[08:57] <gmachine_24> cfhowlett, yeah, sorry; this problem occurred after I ran the windows 7 repair disk..... ack..... b4 that ubuntu booted fine
[08:57] <gmachine_24> anyway, will probably be back later
[08:58] <aarobc> Welcome to the internet
[08:59] <llutz> antonio_: you'd ask the guys in #android-root  or #android
[08:59] <antonio_> ah thanks
[09:01] <antonio_> llutz: weird..can't join #android-root
[09:03] <k1l_> antonio_: i can, please ask in #freenode for issues with the network
[09:05] <llutz> !register | antonio_
[09:05] <TJ-> antonio_: You probably need to be singed in with nickserv
[09:05] <TJ-> s/singed/signed/
[09:17] <ServerSage> Hey folks, a few hours ago I ran 'sudo do-release-upgrade' and things were flying along.  About 10 minutes ago it go to the grub stuff and has hung on "Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin".  The load is 0, no CPU is being used, and there is no drive IO.  What does one do when this happens?
[09:17] <ServerSage> Oh, FYI this was going from 13.10 to 14.04
[09:19] <StaRetji> Hello folks, how can I give mysql user root privileges (it is local machine, so I have no worries for security)
[09:19] <StaRetji> thanks
[09:19] <ServerSage> Actually, it looks like it's stuck on setting up mdadm.  :/  Which, of course, I need.
[09:21] <cfhowlett> ServerSage if this is  a server, might want to ask #ubuntu-server.  You could torrrent the 14.04 ISO and install
[09:22] <StaRetji> editing /etc/sudoers with mysql ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL doesn't help. I have a trigger that is set to run script in /root/somescript.sh
[09:22] <StaRetji> same script works if in /tmp/somescript.sh but it wont from /root
[09:23] <StaRetji> now, I can't change trigger so I need to make it able to run from root directory
[09:23] <ServerSage> cfhowlett: I'm not sure installing from ISO is really needed.  I'm sure I can ctrl-c it and finish the install.  Installing from the ISO seems extreme.
[09:23] <Ben64> StaRetji: then give mysql user access to that file/directory
[09:26] <StaRetji> Ben64: thanks for reply. How to do that? is chown mysql:mysql sufficient?
[09:26] <TJ-> ServerSage: Use an additional terminal to look at the upgrade logs: "/var/log/dist-upgrade/" I *think* ... you might find additional info towards the end of one or more log-files to clue you into why it has stalled. Possibly its the /etc/grub.d/ scripts confused
[09:27] <Ben64> StaRetji: would be easier to give the file and directory 777 permissions, but that is a potential security risk, which you don't seem to care about anyway
[09:27] <ServerSage> TJ-: Yeah, I was actually just going down that path.  Looks like some legacy grub1 crap laying about that is confusing it.
[09:28] <StaRetji> Ben64: thank you ;)
[09:33] <Radon_3> hi guys, I am trying to install Kaspersky Endpoint Security 8 for Linux ( http://support.kaspersky.com/us/kes8linux#kb ) and I get this error from software centre http://tny.cz/6f65eff2 should I cntinue with the installation?
[09:34] <k1l_> Radon_3: this is prop. software. better is to ask their support for help
[09:36] <Radon_3> sorry folks, firefox died on me again, network problem
[09:37] <dekatch_> i am looking for widgetsgadgets for obv. ubuntu. found an article on ubuntuusers. they name screenlets. i can find this via software center. but it has only 3 from 5 star ratings....
[09:37] <dekatch_> are there any better solutions?
[09:38] <k1l_> dekatch_: the ultimate widget is conky
[09:39] <dekatch_> k1l_, thank you. ill have a look at conky :P
[09:40] <plok> hi, i have a logging problem with apt / dpkg on a ubuntu 12.04.4 box : no log is generated in term.log, history.log or dpkg.log. I didnt made any change to conf files. Any idea ?
[09:40] <ljunggren> how come searching for propierty gpu drivers never works for me in ubuntu? not on my laptop or my desktop. It just crashes,.. does it work for you guys? laptop is running radeon 6320 and desktop radeon 7950
[09:48] <dekatch_> k1l_, uhm. how do i open conky?? installed it. softwarecenter claimed installed either. but casnt find it on my system :) system settings. dash hom, nowhere ..
[09:48] <dekatch_> do i have to install addons first?
[09:48] <RubixRex> what would be the best way to create / implement scripts for xchat?  I knew how to do it on windows :/
[09:52] <dekatch_> welly, the ultimate widget wiki page from conky is offline http://isup.me/http://wiki.conky.cc/
[09:52] <jj123> does ubuntu work np with intel and nvidia graphics card in laptops when i tried with 12.10 i suppose there was a problem which caused a black screen on boot, never solved?!
[09:52] <jj123> perhaps it had something to do with the integrated gpu+nvidia graphics card
[09:53] <Ben64> jj123: you should try 14.04, i think they've gotten support for the dual gpu systems a lot better now
[09:53] <jj123> cool
[09:56] <nikolam> I have a problem with sharing Wireless connection (client, PCI card) to LAN. It used to work OK since recently, and now it does not work anymore, e.g. I need to manually bring down LAN interface (named p5p1) and bring it up again in network manager tray GUI, so it could share Internet to Lan again.
[09:57] <nikolam> Previously (13.10 64bit) it worked after booting up, now it does not work sharing internet after restart by default
[09:57] <pc_magas> nikolam, Hos is wireless network is configured
[09:58] <nikolam> pc_magas, it is set up with GUI, ssid choosed, password set, automatic settings
[09:58] <nikolam> pc_magas, it is WEP on AP
[09:58] <k1l_> !conky | dekatch_
[09:59] <pc_magas> nikolam, just show me some screenshots on how is configured
[09:59] <k1l_> dekatch_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[10:03] <Radon_3> alright, sorry folks for asking this again, my firefox dies on me and I had to update the BIOS of the system, also to scan something withclamav
[10:03] <Radon_3> now my problem
[10:03] <epsilon1> May i post   xrandr command's output here (pastebin link)? I don't know what the current  refresh rate is.
[10:05] <epsilon1> what does "1920x1080      60.0*+ " exactly mean?
[10:06] <the_bz> the 60.0* at the end is refresh rate in Hz AFAIK
[10:06] <Radon_3> I am trying to install http://support.kaspersky.com/kes8linux downloaded from http://www.kaspersky.com/product-updates/linux-endpoint-security and I get this error  http://tny.cz/b2e88dd4  , should I just continue with the installation or it is not advised? Also I have installed clamav and when I scan my windows directory with it it gives me a lot
[10:06] <Radon_3> of virues showing up in there something about 500 items
[10:06] <nikolam> pc_magas, here are wireless configuration screenshots: https://mega.co.nz/#F!O9wGFAaL!bJyRVKwmI3zxU6y7td8yKQ
[10:06] <Radon_3> so should I continue with installing kaspersky or not?
[10:07] <nikolam> so LAN (p5pi) is coming up after restart, it just does nto share internet connection anymore
 ok, this is the refresh rate in this moment or is it the optimal one?
[10:08] <Radon_3> anyone?
[10:09] <RubixRex> have you tried clamav ?
[10:09] <the_bz> I think it's the current one but someone else needs to confirm
[10:10] <nikolam> Radon_3, you should contact vendor and ask what to do, since it is their product. It is at your own risk.
[10:10] <epsilon1> the_bz: that is my question, is it the current refresh rate or is it the optimal one?
[10:10] <Radon_3> yeah, I am afraid if it might not be as affactive as kaspesky based on detection rate comparisons, also as I said earlier when I scan my win7 directory with it it gives me a list of about 500 viruses and malwares, which I am afraid to remove thinking that they might be false positives
[10:10] <xw> Is there any way to add a progress bar to dd?
[10:11] <the_bz> define "optimal"
[10:11] <pc_magas> nikolam, did you set the ethernet connection as "Share with other computers" in Ipv4 Settings?
[10:11] <nikolam> pc_magas, Yes. And it worked that way since recently.
[10:12] <Radon_3> what should I do people? should I remove all the things clamav shows up as bad applications, or should I continue installing kaspersky?
[10:12] <nikolam> pc_magas, it also work after I manually brong down and bring up LAN in GUI
[10:12] <qin> xw: prpbably, or you can df output and translate to percent.
[10:13] <xw> qin: how do I invoke such magic?
[10:13] <larrypg> Radon_3, why not just run a windows anti-malware from within windows?
[10:13] <qin> xw: or less responsible way: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-dd-command-show-progress-while-coping/
[10:14] <xw> I am very responsible, but I will use the method in that link
[10:14] <xw> qin: thank you
[10:14] <qin> xw: man df;
[10:14] <Radon_3> larrypg: Cause I hae come a long way to be a t a somewhat secure point and secure from possible windows rootkits, plus windows antiviruses that I have tried all say windows is totally clean: AVAST, AVIRA, comodo, symantec, housecall, vipre
[10:14] <Radon_3> strengthening the idea that Imight be affected with a rootkit
[10:15] <Radon_3> oh, forgot AVG in that list up there
[10:15] <nikolam> xw, I think I just googled you can use 'pv' command for that.http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-dd-command-show-progress-while-coping/
[10:15] <Radon_3> they all say windows is clean
[10:15] <Radon_3> ofcourse from withing windows
[10:15] <Radon_3> but in Ubuntu things differ a lot
[10:15] <nikolam> oh it's already posted :P
[10:16] <qin> nikolam: using df from second terminal seems safer
[10:16] <nikolam> qin, ok, thanks
[10:16] <nikolam> I used ls -lh few days before, so it intrigued me
[10:19] <the_ant> is it safe to change $IFS value?
[10:22] <Radon_3> buy the way can we run 32bit applications on ubuntu 64 with no problems?
[10:22] <Dvorovoi> sometimes
[10:23] <Radon_3> so could that be why I can not install that package (.deb file)
[10:23] <Radon_3> ?
[10:23] <Dvorovoi> I run a couple programs in 32 bit mod
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Radon_3: if you can satisfy the 32bit deps, then yes
[10:23] <Radon_3> ActionParsnip: how can i do that?
[10:23] <w4|k3r> Had a question for ubuntu touch
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Radon_3: install a 32bit deb, then run:  sudo apt-get -f install   it should pull in the rest
[10:24] <w4|k3r> It is written in the ubuntu touch page that the support for  maguro device is under maintenance
[10:24] <nikolam> Radon_3, Newer Ubuntus changes the way they handle 32bit .debs. So vendors who provide binary-only applications need to repack them. Ask vendor to repack application, use another or run older Ubuntu in Virtual machine.
[10:24] <red234324> calling shell script $> myscript.sh param how to access param within myscript.sh ?
[10:24] <w4|k3r> The maintenance part has got me confused
[10:25] <the_ant> is it safe to change $IFS value?
[10:25] <Radon_3> nope, I downloaded the package again thinking it might be corrupted or something  but no I can't run the new file either, the same problem
[10:25] <nikolam> Radon_3, Linux does not proide binary compatibility across releases and vendors should know that.
[10:26] <Radon_3> apparently doesn't know that
[10:26] <Radon_3> apparently kaspersky doesn't know that
[10:26] <nikolam> Radon_3, He will, when you ask him to provide you with App that actually works.
[10:26] <w4|k3r> red234324: $0 is the name of the command, $1 first parameter,
[10:26] <w4|k3r>  $2 second parameter,
[10:26] <w4|k3r>  $3 third parameter etc. etc
[10:26] <w4|k3r>  $# total number of parameters
[10:26] <w4|k3r>  $@ all the parameters will be listed
[10:26] <Radon_3> well I am not a customer, will he do that even then?
[10:26] <nikolam> Radon_3, duuno, ask them.
[10:27] <red234324> thx w4|k3r
[10:27] <Radon_3> is there anything I could do on my end?
[10:27] <sam__> hai
[10:27] <Radon_3> high sam__
[10:27] <nikolam> Radon_3, you can figure out what linux/Ubuntu version IS supported and run that version. if you so much care for a vendor App...
[10:28] <Alvaro> profe
[10:28] <Maar> Hola
[10:28] <Alvaro> profeeeee
[10:28] <Radon_3> I see
[10:28] <mik__> Álvaro no empieces ya!
[10:28] <alumno5> hola
[10:28] <profesor_> holiiiiiiiiiis
[10:28] <Alvaro> PROFE TE QUEREMOS!
[10:28] <profesor_> butaaaaano
[10:28] <alumno_> peelotaa
[10:28] <Alvaro> butanooo
[10:28] <Alvaro> c4h10
[10:28] <profesor_> CLk
[10:28] <alumno5> asdg
[10:28] <Maar> gbt
[10:28] <Maar> tbtb
[10:28] <Alvaro> mangeeel
[10:28] <Maar> rrtbtrb
[10:28] <Maar> trbtrbt
[10:28] <Maar> bgbg
[10:28] <Maar> bgbgb
[10:29] <unopaste> Maar you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:29] <Radon_3> and let us say that I get a virtual machine, and get an older version of ubuntu running on it, will I be able to scan window which is on another physical partition through virtual machine and solve the problems?
[10:29] <sam__> random_3 : how to get internet in kvm with the main machine
[10:30] <DJones> mik__: Alvaro Maar alumno__ alumno___ profesor__ profesor__ This is a support channel, please don't use it as your personal chat channel
[10:30] <nikolam> Radon_3, that is the questioin for Virtualization you use. I think you should use Virtualbox for starters. It can use physical partition, but it is tricky to set up. see #vbox
[10:31] <nikolam> pc_magas, ok, I ll be back later, but that is info I got so far.
[10:31] <nikolam> Maybe things would change if i migrate to 14.04, but will see.
[10:32] <Radon_3> ok, I have got something on kaspersky installation manual which reads like this: "Before installing Kaspersky Endpoint Security, you need to install the glibc package (64-bit operating systems require the
[10:32] <Radon_3> 32-bit version of glibc)." does that mean that if I get a 32bit version of glibc installed i will be able to install the package with no problems?
[10:32] <nikolam> Radon_3, yes, and that is manual for older Ubuntu releases...
[10:32] <nikolam> so it is not up to date. Againg Vendor support problem.
[10:32] <Radon_3> you mean it won't work for my current 12.04 64 realese?
[10:33] <nikolam> Radon_3, dunno, ask them. They made it.
[10:33] <Radon_3> I am super frustrated from kaspersky now
[10:33] <nikolam> well, don't be, just see what they support.
[10:33] <w4|k3r> Radon_3: Kaspersky on Ubuntu? Why?
[10:34] <Radon_3> w4|k3r: to scan my highly suspecious windows7, also I don't want ti to hurt my linux
[10:34] <nikolam> w4|k3r, why not. Linux is also commercial platform. Just vendors need to make it so.
[10:34] <Radon_3> sorry my dear ubuntu
[10:35]  * nikolam need to go
[10:35] <Radon_3> I mean clamav says I have 500 viruses on my windows7, I want to see what kaspersky thinks
[10:36] <sree> I installed Ubuntu 14.04.But it got stuck with  Window"System is running in low graphics mode" in live Cd booting as well as in normal booting.I tried all the suggestions in ubuntu forums.http://askubuntu.com/questions/461559/stuck-in-low-graphics-mode-in-live-cd-as-well-as-in-normal-boot-after-insatllati
[10:37] <Radon_3> basically getting a second opinion
[10:37] <w4|k3r> sree: Do you have a gfx card on your system? if yes, does it support Nvidia Optimus?
[10:38] <sree> Graphics card AMD radeon
[10:38] <Radon_3> sree: I am a very tiny beginner in the ocean of ubuntu and I have a suggestion, try disabling the onboard graphics
[10:38] <w4|k3r> Okay, let me check - because I had issues with Optimus
[10:38] <Radon_3> use only the graphic card
[10:38] <w4|k3r> sree: Give me the card name
[10:39] <sree> w4|k3r, How cam I get my card name?
[10:40] <zetheroo1> My whole system is in English ... except the calendar ... how do I change the calendar language?
[10:40] <Radon_3> sree: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tell-which-graphics-vga-card-installed/
[10:40] <w4|k3r> sree: Let's see, like Radon_3 said you can disable the gfx card from BIOS
[10:41] <w4|k3r> Don't disable the onboard one. Also give me the output of this : lspci | grep 'video'
[10:42] <w4|k3r> sree: run that code in the terminal
[10:42] <Radon_3> also put a sudo before it I guess
[10:42] <sree> lspci | grep 'video' Giving no output w4|k3r
[10:43] <Radon_3> sree:  sudo lspci | grep 'video'
[10:43] <w4|k3r> try without the quotes in video
[10:43] <sree> lspci | grep 'VGA' Giving  output w4|k3r
[10:43] <w4|k3r> like lspci | grep video
[10:43] <w4|k3r> Sorry, yeah
[10:43] <w4|k3r> VGA is the one, my bad sree
[10:44] <sree> Okay w4|k3r
[10:44] <w4|k3r> Does it report the two cards?
[10:44] <sree> VGA compatbl controller
[10:44] <sree> no w4|k3r
[10:45] <w4|k3r> paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <w4|k3r> Let's see where we are getting stuck
[10:45] <Radon_3> sree: try installing hardinfo
[10:45] <sree> Intel coop 3rd gen cre procsr
[10:45] <Radon_3> like this:
[10:45] <Radon_3> sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[10:45] <sree> w4|k3r, hardinfo?
[10:47] <Radon_3> sree: no sree sorry, it won't do any good
[10:47] <Radon_3> unless you have the drivers of the vga card installed
[10:47] <sree> w4|k3r, VGA compatbl controller Intel cooprn 3rd gen cre procsr Graphcs controlr (rev09)
[10:47] <sree> w4|k3r, output
[10:47] <w4|k3r> Oh Ok
[10:47] <w4|k3r> sree: can you check if any drivers for your AMD Radeon is installed
[10:48] <sree> w4|k3r, I updated it
[10:48] <w4|k3r> sree: because I found this : http://devgurus.amd.com/thread/168515
[10:48] <Radon_3> oh wait, it does tell you about your vga card data in the PCI section
[10:48] <Radon_3> yes definitelly install hardinfo man
[10:48] <Radon_3> sree: install it for sure
[10:48] <Radon_3> it tells you everything
[10:49] <w4|k3r> 14.3 Beta drivers for AMD installed?
[10:55] <philinux> As well as hardinfo there's the sysinfo package too
[10:56] <w4|k3r> glxinfo should also give us some more information
[10:57] <sree> w4|k3r, sorry network issue
[10:57] <Radon_3> Ok, a very stupid question, how can I check and see if the engines of ubuntu are all running fine? I mean is there a way I could check and see if everything is alright with everything in my ubuntu?
[10:57] <w4|k3r> no probs sree
[10:58] <w4|k3r> Radon_3: engines? you mean the CPU cores?
[10:58] <sree> w4|k3r, fglrx updated
[10:58] <Radon_3> w4|k3r: no I meant the kernel of the system, I mean more like everything
[10:59] <sree> w4|k3r, fglrxinfo is showing Error
[10:59] <sree> unable to open dispaly(null)
[11:00] <Radon_3> I want to check all the important parts of the system with some trustable online resourse and see if everyhing is original and right in place
[11:01] <w4|k3r> sree: That means something is wrong with the drivers that have been installed for fgrlx
[11:01] <sree> w4|k3r, so need to reinstall
[11:01] <sree> ?
[11:02] <w4|k3r> sree: Hold on, are you getting this error : Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[11:02] <Radon_3> gotta powerdown the system there is this whizzing sound coming from the case I have to check what it is, brb
[11:02] <sree> w4|k3r, no for fglrxinfo
[11:04] <w4|k3r> Okay, I think we will have to remove everything related to fgrlxinfo and reinstall
[11:04] <w4|k3r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9431865&postcount=21
[11:05] <w4|k3r> sree: try the aforementioned link
[11:05] <sree> w4|k3r, okay
[11:08] <demoz> can anyone tell me if i use -y on end of install command (apt-get or yum) the installation won't ask for confirmation ?
[11:10] <TomyWork> can i update from 13.04 straight to 14.04?
[11:10] <TomyWork> kubuntu, that is
[11:10] <Ben64> nope, have to go through 13.10
[11:11] <TomyWork> why?
[11:13] <sree> w4|k3r, E:Unable to locate pkg fglrx-modaliases
[11:13] <sree> w4|k3r, on first command itself
[11:14] <TomyWork> i'm kinda wondering why i can select "Long term support releases only" under Muon Software Center => Settings => Configure Software Sources => Updates => Release upgrade, if i cannot upgrade to any LTS from 13.04?
[11:15] <sree> w4|k3r, are you there?
[11:18] <fishcooker> i have truecrypt hidden partition created on windows..  i have problem with mounting it on ubuntu because i don't see the disk on fdisk
[11:19] <Radon_3> yeah, a lose cable, nothing to worry about, every one can chill ( :D )
[11:19] <rigo> hi. i put a debian to a d-link dns-320 nas with lxde desktop and i try to download via filezilla but the speed bounces from 0 to 1400 kbyte/sec. what can be the problem? driver issue, or overheating/not enough memory?
[11:20] <w4|k3r> sree: Sorry, war thing
[11:20] <w4|k3r> *was working on another thing
[11:20] <sree> w4|k3r, no problem
[11:21] <w4|k3r> Okay, let's see - check the packages repository - you can see them if you have synaptic package manager installed or Ubuntu Software Center
[11:21] <TomyWork> the problem is, i can only do one of the updates a night (cant use the company line for stuff like this during the work day)
[11:21] <w4|k3r> See if all the package repos(universe and multiverse) are enabled or not
[11:22] <TomyWork> so in essence i wouldn't have a workable system for a day
[11:23] <sree> sorry w4|k3r .I can't see even my login my window
[11:23] <TomyWork> is going from 13.04 to 14.04 just not tested and thus not officially supported or are there actual known issues with it?
[11:23] <w4|k3r> sree: Oh, you are in terminal mode
[11:24] <sree> w4|k3r,can choose ubuntu from grub...
[11:24] <w4|k3r> sree: Okay, no probs if modaliases not present in first command
[11:24] <w4|k3r> carry on to the second comand
[11:24] <sree> then it shows error window
[11:24] <w4|k3r> Does it go into a terminal session?
[11:24] <Radon_3> scanning my M$ win7 again, using clamav
[11:24] <ip> h
[11:25] <sree> alt+ctrl+f2
[11:25] <sree> command window
[11:25] <Guest50357> I'm trying to install nginx on Ubuntu on a specific directory. On Windows I just had to extract the nginx on the desired directory, how to do that on Ubuntu?
[11:25] <w4|k3r> Good, now when you are in the terminal session
[11:25] <w4|k3r> sudo apt-get remove fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev
[11:25] <Radon_3> so far 27 threats in 10000 files, I guess I gotta hit ##security for this
[11:26] <w4|k3r> and then : sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev
[11:26] <Guest19425> need help with bluetooth , running ubuntu ,14.04 , using broadcom prop driver , bluetooth on but keeps searching for devices
[11:26] <lblume> TomyWork: It is tested and generally works, but will be made available in July. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[11:27] <Ben64> lblume: not 12.04, 13.04
[11:27] <w4|k3r> sree: after purging reboot, go into terminal session once again
[11:28] <sree> w4|k3r, okay
[11:28] <sree> w4|k3r,  sudo reboot?
[11:28] <w4|k3r> yeah
[11:29] <TomyWork> lblume  i'm on 13.04
[11:29] <sree> w4|k3r, then sudo apt-get update?
[11:30] <w4|k3r> Yes
[11:30] <w4|k3r> after the reboot
[11:30] <Ben64> TomyWork: all upgrades are from one version to the next, lke 12.10 -> 13.04 or 13.04 -> 13.10. the only exception is LTS to LTS, like 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04
[11:30] <w4|k3r> Then run : sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev fglrx-modaliases
[11:30] <sree> w4|k3r, ya..done
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[11:30] <TomyWork> Ben64 that's not really how .debs work
[11:31] <Ben64> TomyWork: i didn't say anything about debs?
[11:31] <TomyWork> ubuntu is based on dpkg and thus consists of .deb packages
[11:31] <Ben64> TomyWork: ok, how does that relate at all to what i said?
[11:31] <TomyWork> you can usually skip versions without any problems at all
[11:31] <sree> w4|k3r, E:Unable to locate pkg fglrx-modaliases again on insatll
[11:31] <Ben64> not true
[11:32] <TomyWork> package versions
[11:32] <Ben64> you're talking about ubuntu versions
[11:32] <TomyWork> yes and a new ubuntu version means new package versions... or what else is there?
[11:32] <rigo> noone has any ideas solving ftp download speed bouncing?
[11:33] <Ben64> TomyWork: a lot. thats why its not just a normal package update.
[11:33] <TomyWork> well i've seen guides that do precisely that
[11:34] <TomyWork> change repo url, update, dist-upgrade
[11:34] <Ben64> not supported in this channel at all
[11:34] <TomyWork> just out of curiosity: how are servers updated?
[11:34] <Ben64> define servers
[11:34] <w4|k3r> sree: forget it, we will worry about that later
[11:35] <w4|k3r> try without that
[11:35] <zetheroo1> I wanted to install a DEB package ... but was confronted with this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7404026/
[11:35] <zetheroo1> What would be the implications of installing the package anyhow?
[11:35] <TomyWork> anything without the capability to run X apps
[11:35] <TomyWork> in this case
[11:35] <sree> w4|k3r, okay
[11:35] <Ben64> apt-get still works, and do-release-upgrade does too
[11:37] <sree> w4|k3r, sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev completed
[11:37] <TomyWork> Ben64 but you just said updating using apt-get isnt supported. am i missing something?
[11:38] <rigo> i have Linux NAS 2.6.22.18 #23 Wed May 25 15:48:30 CST 2011 armv5tejl GNU/Linux with lxde desktop and filezilla on my nas. on the hdd. but the main nas software runs on the nas with the webui and services.
[11:39] <Ben64> TomyWork: i said changing the repositories yourself and skipping versions isn't supported
[11:39] <TomyWork> ok what did you mean by updating with apt-get then?
[11:39] <Ben64> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[11:40] <TomyWork> that gets me from 13.04 to 13.10, for instance?
[11:40] <Ben64> no.. thats do-release-upgrade
[11:40] <Polppo> Hi everybody, I am having trouble with apt and dpkg, which does not log anything in term.log, history.log or dpkg.log. Any idea ?
[11:41] <TomyWork> then i dont see why you mentioned it when we were talking about switching releases
[11:41] <nime> I'm trying to install nginx on Ubuntu on a specific directory(location). On Windows I just had to extract the nginx on the desired directory, how to do that on Ubuntu?
[11:41] <Ben64> because you keep asking about different things and being generally ambiguous
[11:42] <sree> w4|k3r, are you there?
[11:45] <mitty_> Hi, every 2 minutes my ping goes up to 430+ ms (Ubuntu 14.04). Is there any solution for this problem?
[11:48] <w4|k3r> sree: sorry, network issue
[11:48] <sree> w4|k3r, okay
[11:49] <ddssc> how can I disable mouse acceleration and increase mouse speed in ubuntu?
[11:49] <sree> w4|k3r, sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev completed
[11:49] <ddssc> cmon people it's been like 20 years and you still haven't figured how to run a computer mouse properly....
[11:49] <iztap> join #uyghurix
[11:50] <sree> w4|k3r, rebooted
[11:51] <TJ-> Has wine{1.6,1.7} in Trusty and ppa:ubuntu-wine been broken in the dependency department recently? On amd64 I'm unable to install any version from any source
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[11:54] <Guest19425> could someone pls help thanks
[11:54] <TomyWork> so i'm thinking, can i automate these two consecutive updates (13.04->13.10->14.04), so I can run them in one night, unattended?
[11:55] <ikonia> I would strongly advise you not to try to automate upgrades
[11:55] <BrokeJoke> why doesnt this chat room sleep?
[11:55] <TomyWork> because it's an empire in which the sun never sets
[11:55] <BrokeJoke> how can i dual boot OSX and  Ubuntu? wihtout  a CD drive or USB
[11:56] <ikonia> BrokeJoke: you don't
[11:56] <BrokeJoke> ikonia:  i cant or i dont?
[11:56] <ikonia> don't
[11:56] <TomyWork> but he wants to, it seems
[11:56] <BrokeJoke> ikonia:  i want to try Ubunto on my macbook, cd drive is dead and i got no USB's  is there likw a "wubi" for osx?
[11:56] <ikonia> TomyWork: walk him through it then
[11:56] <ikonia> BrokeJoke: no, there is not
[11:56] <TomyWork> not machead
[11:57] <TomyWork> +a
[11:57] <ikonia> what ?
[11:57] <TomyWork> i am not a mac head
[11:57] <ikonia> this is nothing to do with a mac
[11:57] <ikonia> it's just an x86_64 platform
[11:57] <ikonia> from his perspetive, so feel free to walk him through it
[11:57] <TomyWork> i see this as you contradicting yourself
[11:58] <ikonia> where ?
[11:58] <Guest19425> bt help
[11:58] <TomyWork> well first you imply it's hard, then you imply i can guide him through it without ever having done this
[11:58] <phendryx> BrokeJoke, install refind in osx, create a bootable usb key, partition your osx drive, reboot, refind will show your usb key, boot from it, install
[11:59] <ikonia> TomyWork no, I said it's not something you should do, I didn't say it's hard, although it does require a certain level of experience
[11:59] <BrokeJoke> phendryx: no USB
[11:59] <TomyWork> ^ see, i told you it's a mac thing
[11:59] <ikonia> it's not a "mac thing"
[11:59] <phendryx> BrokeJoke, how the hell is there not usb?
[11:59] <ikonia> phendryx: he doesn't have a usb pen
[11:59] <TomyWork> it's not a sony, for sure :P
[11:59] <phendryx> oh god, goto the store and spend $5
[12:00] <ronaldsmazitis> hi [CAP5998] I don't believe in internet currency nor real one, as I only worth real products and spiritual values.
[12:00] <ikonia> ronaldsmazitis: nothing to do with this channel
[12:00] <ikonia> ronaldsmazitis: please keep it out of this channel
[12:00] <ronaldsmazitis> sorry for offtopic
[12:00] <ikonia> no problem
[12:00] <sam__> what motherboards are supported for linux ltsp
[12:01] <ronaldsmazitis> I came for help on nautilus 3.10 problem, no thumbnails
[12:01] <BrokeJoke> phendryx:  i have no USb stick..
[12:01] <BrokeJoke> phendryx:  i have usb port. but no USB..
[12:01] <phendryx> BrokeJoke, spend $5 and get one.. sorry man
[12:02] <ronaldsmazitis> for some reason thumbnails don't load
[12:02] <TomyWork> ikonia the thing is i wouldnt even know how to guide him through a browser on a mac
[12:02] <phendryx> PXE or something like that on a macbook is going to be painful
[12:02] <BrokeJoke>  :( sad face snoicne
[12:02] <BrokeJoke> emoticon
[12:02] <ronaldsmazitis> I guess my UID changed, so thumbnails is not accesable
[12:02] <ikonia> TomyWork through a browser on a mac ???
[12:02] <sam__> clear
[12:02] <ronaldsmazitis> somebody knows where nautilus thumbnails are stored?
[12:02] <ikonia> TomyWork: there is no need for a browser on the mac
[12:02] <TomyWork> i would probably say something stupid like "right-click -> save" and he'd look for the button on his right mouse
[12:02] <Comviqhelpty> i need an expert in 3G usb dongle setups ^^ will pay 0.2 btc
[12:03] <ikonia> TomyWork: then you don't know how to do actually do it then, as there is no need for a browser on the mac to do it
[12:03] <Comviqhelpty> get my 3G modem to work ill pay you!!
[12:03] <TomyWork> i told you i dont
[12:03] <TJ-> Comviqhelpty: Tell us the make and model, and which Ubuntu version and desktop environment you're using
[12:04] <TomyWork> you wouldn't take my word for it for some reason
[12:04] <ikonia> TomyWork: no, you kept saying you didn't know how to do macs
[12:04] <ikonia> when the hardware platform is just a generic X86_64 with EFI
[12:04] <zetheroo1>  I wanted to install a DEB package ... but was confronted with this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7404026/
[12:04] <zetheroo1> What would be the implications of installing the package anyhow?
[12:04] <Comviqhelpty> TJ it's a ZTE MF190 HSUPA
[12:04] <TomyWork> i dont know how to operate a mac
[12:04] <TomyWork> i'm even having trouble with the keyboard
[12:04] <ikonia> zetheroo1: looks like sloppy security
[12:04] <Comviqhelpty> I've tried everything from modeswitching it, using sakis3g but somethings not working, I have tried on UBUNTU, Backtrack and KALI
[12:05] <Guest27670> so many message
[12:05] <ikonia> TomyWork: again you don't need to operate the mac - you're installing to the mac, so macosx would not be running
[12:05] <BrokeJoke> zetheroo1:  restart and try again, chear cache
[12:05] <zetheroo1> ikonia: ok - would it break anything?
[12:05] <BrokeJoke> clear
[12:05] <ikonia> zetheroo1: no idea what the package is/does
[12:05] <ikonia> zetheroo1: may flag an aparmor warning/block
[12:06] <ikonia> zetheroo1: I certainly wouldn't be using it
[12:06] <TJ-> Comviqhelpty: Is the device supposed to present as a serial port (modem) or as a CDC Ethernet port?
[12:06] <zetheroo1> ikonia: it's a LAN Messenger (http://lanmsngr.sourceforge.net)
[12:06] <zetheroo1> ikonia: ok
[12:06] <TomyWork> ikonia i wouldnt even know that. i just heard that to dual boot windows, you need boot camp. that's my level of knowledge
[12:06] <Comviqhelpty> TJ: it's a 3G usb dongle (i guess thats a modem)
[12:06] <zetheroo1> ikonia: do you know offhand of any alternatives?
[12:06] <ikonia> zetheroo1: yeah, a URL doesn't really tell me much about it, how it's built, it's file location needs etc
[12:06] <Comviqhelpty> On windows I just plug it in and browser opens automaticly and I am connected
[12:06] <ikonia> zetheroo1: I know if it's being flagged as bad security permissions on files - I wouldn't be touching it
[12:06] <zetheroo1> ikonia: ah, I see
[12:07] <ikonia> zetheroo1: I don't know that messager at all, so I couldn't recommend something different
[12:07] <Guest27670> 我走了
[12:07] <zetheroo1> just would like something inhouse for chatting between the workstations ...
[12:07] <TomyWork> anyway, how do i do an unattended upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 and a subsequent unattended upgrade to 14.04?
[12:07] <sree> w4|k3r, sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev completed and rebooted
[12:07] <llutz> zetheroo1: the lintian checks just say that package is poorly packaged
[12:08] <TomyWork> i guess a reboot is required in the middle, so i'm not sure how to script that
[12:08] <zetheroo1> llutz: but it's a security risk ... right!?
[12:08] <llutz> zetheroo1: installing from 3rd party always is
[12:08] <zetheroo1> ok
[12:09] <llutz> zetheroo1: the permission issues you pasted relate to the package, not the software
[12:09] <llutz> zetheroo1: but if a dev not even can build a clean deb....
[12:09] <TJ-> Comviqhelpty: No, that's not what I was asking. 3G devices present themselves over USB as different types of devices. One mode is to present a serial port (like an RS232 UART) like traditional external modems. A newer way is to present a pure (CDC) Ethernet port. For the latter, the NetworkManager Mobile Broadband options don't see it, since is seen as a "Wired Ethernet" port and gets an ethX style name
[12:10] <zetheroo1>  llutz: would you know of any LAN chat software that works well across Linux (Ubuntu), Windows and Mac?
[12:10] <Comviqhelpty> TJ: the network manager does not see it, but with proper setup i know people have got the network manager to see it
[12:10] <Comviqhelpty> by setting some stuff
[12:10] <llutz> zetheroo1: nope
[12:10] <ulkesh> zetheroo1: IRC? :)
[12:10] <TomyWork> alternatively, can i pre-download all (or at least the majority) of the package files i would need from 13.04 to 13.10 and from 13.10 to 14.04?
[12:11] <zetheroo1> ulkesh: maybe ... we tried that and it was ok ... just some users were having a hard time with it ... maybe we should re-visit that option
[12:11] <TJ-> Comviqhelpty: Yes, so it probably should present as a serial port. Monitor the kernel log whilst connecting the device, see if the USB ID changes as usb_modeswitch flips it
[12:12] <llutz> zetheroo1: local xmpp-server + pidgin or whatever client maybe?
[12:12] <TJ-> Comviqhelpty: In a terminal monitor the log using "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and then plug it in.
[12:12] <sree> w4|k3r, do you have network problems?
[12:12] <Comviqhelpty> it does change back to default when taking it in and out
[12:12] <BrokeJoke> no it doesnt need to be connected
[12:12] <BrokeJoke>  just have ut restarted
[12:12] <BrokeJoke> in the network thats donw
[12:12] <Comviqhelpty> and when i run modeswitch it does set different setting (not 100% sure) i set it right tho
[12:13] <zetheroo1> llutz: sounds like a possibility.
[12:13] <ulkesh> zetheroo1: Yeah it's not the most intuitive, but there are awesome clients for each of those OSes and it seems that with some mild training, they could get used to it...that being said, I expect there's something considerably easier and more IM-like
[12:13] <Comviqhelpty> it would be nice if someone who knew this well could  teamview me and help me set it up, and if you get it to connect ill pay 0.20 Bitcoins (~60$)
[12:13] <ulkesh> zetheroo1: yeah, XMPP is probably better from an IM standpoint and is more intuitive to what users are used to using (redundant usage of "user" :) )
[12:14] <zetheroo1> ulkesh: yes, the IM style is what we are looking for really ...
[12:15] <zipper> How do I install ubuntu from iso. I can see to install on windows.
[12:15] <zipper> Linux is confusing me.
[12:16] <kingplusplus> zipper are you installing on virtualbox or dualboot?
[12:17] <Mouzzi> hey
[12:17] <Mouzzi> Can anyone help with a free space issue im having ?
[12:17] <Mouzzi> pleease
[12:19] <Mouzzi> after increasing the partition size, the space free/total size is still only showing the old size PRE
[12:19] <zipper> I don't even know. I'm installing ubuntu in windows
[12:19] <zipper> How about using office on linux
[12:19] <Mouzzi> the disk itself is showing the correct size though..
[12:19] <zipper> How can I ensure an easy transition?
[12:20] <TJ-> Mouzzi: The partition is a container... you can enlarge the container but the contents don't expand... You also need to resize the file-system within the container
[12:21] <sree__> w4|k3r,Are you there?
[12:22] <BrokeJoke> My tweets may not be very interesting, but I sure as hell make a pretty picture in your timeline.
[12:22] <Mouzzi> Ok thanks, does gparted do that automatically ?
[12:23] <mintgreen_> i can't get any utube videos working anfter installing some extensions.how to fix this?
[12:23] <Rory> mintgreen_: Uninstall the extensions one by one, until youtube starts working again
[12:24] <Rory> mintgreen_: Restart the browser in between each extension. Then you will know which extension is stopping it working
[12:26] <TJ-> Mouzzi: I'm not sure about gparted; not used it in a long time, but I think it is supposed to. I use the terminal for such things.
[12:26] <TomyWork> Comviqhelpty http://www.teamviewer.com/hi/download/linux.aspx download, install, send the guy connecting to you your id and password, done. where are my bitcoins? :P
[12:26] <TomyWork> (j/k keep them)
[12:27] <Mouzzi> ok cheers, any hints on what commands I should be using ? also does it matter if hte file system is "lvm2 pv"
[12:27] <Comviqhelpty> ? u wanna help me?
[12:27] <Comviqhelpty> my teamviewer is up and rdy ^^
[12:27] <sree> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 and on boot stuck with a window showing "system is running in low-graphics mode".Can any one help me?I tried almost all suggestions in ubuntu forums
[12:27] <Comviqhelpty> just get my 3g modem working and i will send the bitcoins :)
[12:28] <TomyWork> oh i thought you meant connect teamviewer :D
[12:28] <Comviqhelpty> no! :) get my 3G dongle to connect to the internet lol
[12:30] <Tin_man> sree, what is your graphics card?
[12:30] <sree> amd radeon
[12:30] <mintgreen_> Rory: this is all i get: http://i.imgur.com/1T52CkA.png
[12:31] <Tin_man> did you make sure you had a good burn?
[12:31] <sree> Tin_man, AMD RADEON
[12:31] <sree> Tin_man, means?
[12:31] <Tin_man> i've got a simple graphics, and it works fine
[12:32] <hebz0rl> hi how can i run the shutdown dialog in 14.04 via the commandline in 12.04 is was able to use '/usr/lib/indicator-session/gtk-logout-helper --shutdown' but that doesnt work anymore (indicator-session isnt present)
[12:32] <Tin_man> when you burned it from the iso file..
[12:32] <k1l> mintgreen: for mint issues please ask the mint support
[12:32] <sree> Tin_man, in my desktop no problem...
[12:32] <sree> Tin_man, no graphics card
[12:32] <Tin_man> ok, don't know then.. what are you running now?
[12:33] <sree> Tin_man, but problem is in laptop
[12:33] <Tin_man> ahh, try googling your laptop
[12:33] <sree> Tin_man, Lenovo G500
[12:33] <Tin_man> dell?
[12:33] <Tin_man> what?
[12:34] <sree> Tin_man, almost tried all....But
[12:34] <Tin_man> i'm not sure about lenovo..
[12:35] <Tin_man> i'm not sure about alot of things, and lenovo, doesn't cross my brain cells..
[12:35] <philinux> hebz0rl;~ http://askubuntu.com/questions/454039/what-command-is-executed-when-shutdown-from-the-graphical-menu-in-14-04
[12:36] <hebz0rl> philinux, thx
[12:36] <Tin_man> that might help philinux..
[12:36] <Rory> mintgreen_: You've installed some sort of awful "youtube downloader" or something
[12:36] <Rory> mintgreen_: Uninstall the extensions one by one, until youtube starts working again
[12:38] <sree> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 and on boot stuck with a window showing "system is running in low-graphics mode".Can any one help me?I tried almost all suggestions in ubuntu forums
[12:40] <InFierno> Did you up the vram in bios?
[12:41] <sree> InFierno, to me?
[12:41] <InFierno> ye
[12:42] <sree> InFierno, varm?
[12:42] <InFierno> shared video ram
[12:42] <hebz0rl> philinux, hmh those will just shutdown the computer what i mean is this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/new-unity-shutdown-dialogs-on-way-to-ubuntu-13-04
[12:43] <sree> InFierno, I don't know.How to check it?
[12:43] <monoton> hi, I was thinking of filling the installation dvd I'm about to burn, with some other files (I mean the dvd would not even be half full), can I add files to the .iso (without having to remake the iso with genisoimage I mean)
[12:43] <InFierno> press DEL / F2 Tto enter bios and it wil be somewhere
[12:43] <InFierno> Why burn a DVD
[12:43] <InFierno> use usb installer = faster, easy file edits
[12:44] <InFierno> and yes poweriso/ultraiso could edit the iso file
[12:45] <Guest88325> ndfb.arg
[12:45] <www2> hi i don't know that this is a bug but in the upgrade manager don't show some software where this software packets i can view  in synaptic
[12:45] <sree> InFierno, I have 14.04 DVD.I can't understand you.
[12:46] <monoton> InFierno: I actually want to save the dvd for later (and I'm out of usb sticks right now) and instead of just put the .iso file on the dvd togheter with other files I want to move to dvd was thinking of having it bootable when I'm at it :-)
[12:46] <mintgreen_> Rory: done now,thanx
[12:46] <monoton> I look for poweriso or ultraiso then
[12:47] <hebz0rl> philinux, nevermind the command is 'gnome-session-quit --reboot' but thx for your help
[12:48] <philinux> hebz0rl;~ yeah just been readng man gnome-sessio-quit
[12:50] <monoton> oh. poweriso and ultraiso is windowsprograms.... I don't do that os
[12:51] <monoton> maybe I'm overthinking this... perhaps I can just mount the iso in linux and just add files to it?
[12:52] <rzx237> monoton: no, when mounting iso file, it is mounted read-only
[12:54] <JohnDory> monoton: from when I've used a cow fs, I've had to redo the entire image. You could create a read/write loopback device and copy and modify that (eh I think, it was a while ago I did this)
[12:56] <varunendra> monoton, "ISO Master" (package isomaster) is freely and natively available in Ubuntu repositories, and does the same thing you want (maintains boot-sector while changing contents). But I'm not sure if the resulting ISO will correctly boot or not after adding the additional files. Probably try and see for yourself.
[13:03] <sree> InFierno, solved my problem
[13:05] <InFierno> sorry had to grab a work call
[13:06] <InFierno> but dont get why you dont just burn as needed and USB it :) less effort tbh
[13:07] <sree> InFierno, that was not the solution....
[13:07] <sree> InFierno, I just made graphics to UMA in bios
[13:08] <sree> InFierno, Then it get solved
[13:11] <abassouk> interesting, on 14.04: rm -rf .wine; WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine wineboot; >> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[13:11] <InFierno> |Ahh rgr
[13:33] <sebastianlutter> are there install iso images available for 14.04 desktop (amd64) that are less than 700 MB (cdr) in size? Only found a ~900MB image, is there a netinstall or something similar?
[13:34] <llutz> !mini
[13:34] <huchenxi> no one?
[13:35] <DJones> sebastianlutter: The only smaller image is the minimal install, the old cd sized iso's were discontinued because they were too restrictive in the software that could be included
[13:39] <sebastianlutter> DJones, thanks, I'll search for that. Or maybe I go buy dvdr (that is the reason why I ask)
[13:40] <llutz> !mini | sebastianlutter follow the link shown
[13:40] <joelio_> Why on some machines do I get the embedded netrwork cards correctly identified as emN but on others I get one with em1 and the other with eth2??!?!!?
[13:40] <tete_> hi, when i have a package (e.g. 389-ds) which has wrong dependencies, should i create a regular bug report?
[13:40] <sandis_> when I close a terminal by pressing the X in the corner, how is the terminal closed?
[13:40] <DJones> sebastianlutter: See the bot's link, that might be what you need, but it will need an internet connection to download the packages it needs during install
[13:41] <llutz> joelio_: those naming the devices "emX" have "Consistent Network Device Naming" enabled, those with ethX haven't
[13:42] <joelio_> llutz: ok, so Dell installs (320, 720 whatever) install correctly as em1 and em2 - hp installs install as em1 and eth2 - they have the same cards - last octet only different in MAC address
[13:42] <joelio_> as you'd expect..
[13:42] <k1l> tete_: if its an packge from the ubuntu repos, yes
[13:42] <tete_> k1l, it is, thanks then i will do that
[13:43] <joelio_> llutz: and why would it be enabled on one device and not the other, when this is install time?
[13:43] <tete_> i cant find a "new bug report" or similar in launchpad, is there some special way to do that?
[13:43] <joelio_> I really think this is a bug
[13:44] <k1l> !bug  | tete_
[13:44] <A_I_> does someone know what matches this regexp
[13:44] <A_I_> [-/%.0-9a-z]
[13:45] <A_I_> ?
[13:45] <llutz> joelio_: sry no idea why/how that happens.
[13:45] <tete_> k1l, i know the url with +filebug but i am wondering how to get there without reading that long article
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: i'd ask in #bash
[13:45] <k1l> tete_: you can use ubuntu-bug PACKAGE command from a terminal, too
[13:45] <tete_> k1l, but the application is not installed - its a dependency problem
[13:46] <tete_> is this then still working?
[13:46] <k1l> tete_: or you browse to that packages page on launchpad and then choose report a bug
[13:46] <joelio_> llutz: n/p I think this is a bug. if it's inconsistent consistently then I can work aroudn it wih automation. As this is inconsistently inconsistent then it makes matter very difficult
[13:46] <tete_> ah ok
[13:46] <tete_> thanks
[13:46] <Lachezar> Hey all… I'm trying to install sun-java5-* packages from an older repository, but: 'apt (1.0.1ubuntu2) breaks sun-java5-jdk (>> 0) and is installed.'
[13:46] <Lachezar> How can I work this around?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Lachezar: which 'older repository' ?
[13:47] <Lachezar> ActionParsnip: I think 12.04 or something like that: sun-java5-jdk_1.5.0-22-0ubuntu0.8.04_amd64.deb
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Lachezar: ok and what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[13:48] <Lachezar> ActionParsnip: 14.04 DUH :)
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Lachezar: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Lachezar: why 'duh'?
[13:48] <Lachezar> ActionParsnip: No, no, no. I need the 1.5, and it has to be Sun's one, before being Oracle's
[13:49] <Simodium> hello all
[13:49] <Lachezar> ActionParsnip: I'm migrating from 13.10 to 14.04 and found out these packages are explicitly marked as 'breaks' to my surprise.
[13:49] <SP33D> hello frinds can some one plz tell me whats needed to use the .ssh/config file?
[13:50] <Simodium> may I upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS?
[13:50] <Rory> SP33D: Take a look here for some examples of what you can do with it: http://nerderati.com/2011/03/simplify-your-life-with-an-ssh-config-file/
[13:50] <SP33D> do i need to run the ssh agent ? normal ssh command works but he don't utils the .ssh/config
[13:50] <k1l> Simodium: the official LTS to LTS upgrade will be opened on 24th july. but you can use the developers upgrade
[13:50] <A_I_> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:50] <SP33D> i have such a simple file on a realy blank system
[13:50] <Rory> SP33D: Use ssh -v to see more information on what SSH is doing
[13:51] <Rory> SP33D: Could you show the file, and an example output of trying to use it, but with "ssh -v" instead of just "ssh" ?
[13:51] <Rory> SP33D: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[13:51] <SP33D> the file works well
[13:51] <SP33D> its  not the problem of the file its a blank system
[13:51] <SP33D> nothing runs at it
[13:51] <SP33D> no deamons not even upstart
[13:51] <Rory> What's the ssh config file got to do with that?
[13:52] <SP33D> so i need to know what do i need to start so that the file gets used from the ssh command
[13:52] <Rory> Oh I see what you mean. You only need openssh-client package
[13:52] <SP33D> i think it don't gets used becaus i don't started ssh key agent
[13:52] <Rory> You don't need the key agent to use the ssh config file
[13:52] <Rory> It's parsed every time ssh is invoked on the command-line
[13:53] <SP33D> but i will need it becaus i use a key file to auth in the config
[13:53] <SP33D> ah ok then its probally a permission issu
[13:53] <Simodium> please tell me more about developers upgrade (or show me some guide)
[13:53] <Rory> You don't need to use ssh-agent. Why don't you try it, and see the output of "ssh -v"
[13:53] <SP33D> ya i will do so
[13:53] <helmut_> hi
[13:53] <SP33D> thx its a jailed env
[13:53] <Rory> SP33D: If you show me an example of it not working, I can probably point you in the right direction
[13:53] <SP33D> :D complicated to just try things :D
[13:54] <SP33D> ill debug it soon will come back later and inform you and thx you need to got
[13:54] <SP33D> go carry my son home
[13:54] <SP33D> :D
[13:55] <k1l> Simodium: do-release-upgrade -d
[13:55] <k1l> in terminal
[13:55] <Simodium> thake you k1l
[13:56] <joelio_> llutz: biosdevname=0 in grub kernel line... turns that buggy crap off. Another win there for Ubuntu's testing policy
[13:56] <elijah> I am having issues getting Compiz Annotate to work in fullscreen mode => http://askubuntu.com/questions/461784/compiz-annotate-not-working-in-fullscreen-mode
[13:57] <SMileyMcgee> !ops
[13:57] <joelio_> I do wish Ubuntu would think first rahter than sheepishly applying this because 'it's what Fedora/RH does'
[13:57] <ikonia> SMileyMcgee: ?
[13:57] <ikonia> what's up
[13:57] <SMileyMcgee> !ops | HI ITS ME
[13:58] <Lachezar> ActionParsnip: Does your silence mean I should GTFO?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Lachezar: just got no suggestion, that's all
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Lachezar: except use the Java from that PPA
[13:58] <strange> hey guys i have a laptop which shares its wifi internet connection over lan to a normal pc how would i go about forwarding port 8080 and 9777 to that box?
[14:00] <strange> on the laptop the laptops ip is 192.168.0.102 the box that gets the internet from laptop and which the ports need forwarding is 10.42.0.87
[14:00] <Lachezar> ActionParsnip: I see. Thanks for the time spent.
[14:00] <joelio_> strange: either iptables fu or use ssh -L
[14:00] <strange> iptables fu?
[14:01] <joelio_> iptables knowledge
[14:01] <joelio_> if it's a one off I'd just use ssh tunelling with the -L option
[14:01] <strange> its 2 ports
[14:01] <robjloranger> greetings
[14:02] <strange> ssh -L 8080:127.0.0.1:8080 strange@10.42.0.87:8080 ?
[14:03] <joelio_> strange: drop the last :8080 unless you are luistening to ssh on that port
[14:03] <joelio_> I don;t think you will be
[14:03] <robjloranger> I'm wondering if I should file a bug report for the upstream 3.15 kernel or if there is something else I can try.. Since upgrading to the upstream kernel, as I had network issues with 3.13, my display doesn't wake up from suspend.
[14:03] <joelio_> then the remote port 8080 will appear as 127.0.0.1:8080
[14:04] <strange> joelio_: can i run 2 porst with 1 ssh -L command?
[14:04] <joelio_> you can run ssh twice ;)
[14:05] <joelio_> strange: sure there will be a way - if you need this more permanent then I'd look at iptables properly
[14:05] <strange> i've tried that but iptables just puzzles me
[14:07]  * eloybc hola
[14:08] <heman21> i have a ubuntu 13.10 optical disk when i tried to boot from uefi it was not getting booted,even i changed my boot priority but still it was not working.I even turned my secure boot off but still problem was not been solved,plzzz help!!!
[14:08] <Takumo> Hi all, I have an ec2 instance runny trusty, and I'd like to use the instance storage (2x 40GB SSD) for maximum speec/space, what's the best way to do thaT?
[14:08] <Takumo> In the past I've used a striped LVM volume
[14:08] <strange> joelio_: do you know the command to just forard those 2 ports in iptables?
[14:09] <robjloranger> Anyone have some idea about video cards not initializing after resume from suspend?
[14:10] <joelio_> strange: https://www.debian-administration.org/article/73/Port_forwarding_for_iptables_DMZ
[14:11] <module000> strange: the man page does. it's -L, and you can pass it multiple times. manuals are for reading, fyi
[14:12] <hotmedal> I have a BCM4313, and it was working fine on linux kernel 3.8, but I had to keep the kernel held back. Now that I've updated it to 3.11, the WiFi sucks. I'm sitting 5 feet away from the router and signal strngth is only "good". If i go to the other room, i lose it completely. (Ubuntu 13.10)
[14:12] <hotmedal> the driver I'm using is brcmsmac
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> hotmedal: try uninstalling then reinstalling the driver
[14:13] <hotmedal> ActionParsnip: from apt-get?
[14:13] <heman21>  i have a ubuntu 13.10 optical disk when i tried to boot from uefi it was not getting booted,even i changed my boot priority but still it was not working.I even turned my secure boot off but still problem was not been solved,plzzz help!!!
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> hotmedal: however youinstalled it
[14:13] <hotmedal> ok
[14:13] <module000> heman21: what error message?
[14:15] <heman21> module000: There is no error message,Ubuntu does not boot when UEFI is enabled but it does boot when UEFI is disabled
[14:15] <module000> heman21: then it sounds like you need to disable UEFI
[14:17] <heman21> module000: isn't there any other way to use ubuntu with UEFI enabled because I even want to use my windows 8.1
[14:17] <module000> heman21: most likely you are misconfiguring your UEFI - tons of us (myself included) use linux with UEFI every day.
[14:18] <module000> heman21: this may shed some light on what you are doing wrong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[14:19] <hotmedal> ActionParsnip: er... I don't remember installing it. I don't know what package it's from
[14:21] <heman21> module000: how can check i whether my iso file in optical drive is 32 bit or 64 bit without even booting?
[14:22] <guest-3HQFK8> REALY
[14:22] <guest-3HQFK8> HEHE
[14:23] <module000> heman21: look for /EFI/BOOT in your ISO. you should see BOOTx64.EFI present. if not, then your ISO is not 64 bit
[14:23] <guest-3HQFK8> whtats the matter
[14:23] <heman21> module000: thank you.
[14:23] <guest-3HQFK8> speak
[14:23] <guest-3HQFK8> yeah
[14:24] <guest-3HQFK8> i dont know
[14:24] <guest-3HQFK8> what are you doing
[14:24] <robjloranger_> Has anyone had issues waking video from suspend?
[14:25] <guest-3HQFK8> not yet
[14:25] <guest-3HQFK8> boring
[14:25] <DJones> guest-3HQFK8: This is a support channel for Ubuntu, so the channel topic is Ubuntu support
[14:26] <robjloranger> It happened after I upgraded to the upstream 3.15 kernel
[14:26] <tailcalled> Whenever I sudo something, I get a segfault
[14:26] <tailcalled> and whenever I use apt-get or related, it breaks because dependency problems
[14:26] <tailcalled> has anyone seen anything similar?
[14:27] <module000> tailcalled: been tinkering with your glib?
[14:27] <tailcalled> no
[14:27] <module000> tailcalled: try `ldd /usr/bin/sudo`
[14:27] <tailcalled> but I was updating to 14.04 and it broke under the update
[14:27] <guest-3HQFK8> cant understand
[14:27] <compdoc> tailcalled, sounds like crashing. could be hardware
[14:27] <module000> tailcalled: if that segfaults or reports any "not found" then you have a problem
[14:27] <LordDeath> where is the "installation directory" of Firefox on Ubuntu?
[14:27] <LordDeath> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Locking_preferences <-- I tried it like this but this isn't working
[14:28] <tailcalled> module000: http://pastebin.com/cVDE5Tzn
[14:28] <LordDeath> is /usr/lib/firefox/browser wrong?
[14:28] <LordDeath> for the mozilla.cfg?
[14:28] <Ufkrby> ~/.mozilla
[14:29] <LordDeath> Ufkrby: not for the current users
[14:29] <tailcalled> module000: is that bad?
[14:29] <module000> tailcalled: your glib isn't broken, that's a good sign. try strace'ing your sudo command to see exactly where your segfault occurs
[14:29] <LordDeath> I need this for all users
[14:29] <module000> tailcalled: no that's good, the output you pasted is what you want to see
[14:29] <Ufkrby> .:LordDeath:. try ~/.mozilla
[14:30] <guest-3HQFK8> ``````
[14:30] <module000> tailcalled: if you have a while to wait, you can also run `dpkg -V` to verify your installed packages actually are installed correctly. it takes a long time to run on a spinning disk, but it should discovery anything that broke in your upgrade
[14:30] <Warroriz> Hey
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> LordDeath: ~/.mozilla is where the user settings are stored, the application itself is installed all over the file system
[14:30] <Warroriz> #defocus
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> LordDeath: if you setup a config and put it in skel it will be given to all future users
[14:31] <tailcalled> tailcalled: http://pastebin.com/phcBCZvk
[14:31] <tailcalled> derp
[14:31] <LordDeath> ActionParsnip: yeah I want to have this for the current users as well
[14:31] <tailcalled> module000: http://pastebin.com/phcBCZvk
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> LordDeath: you'd need to manually copy it over for the current users
[14:31] <LordDeath> the mozilla wiki says that this mozilla.cfg should be in the installation directory and not in the profile directries
[14:31] <dinogreen_rex> hi
[14:32] <module000> tailcalled: type "grep nosuid /etc/fstab", you shouldn't see anything returned
[14:32] <module000> tailcalled: also, "grep nosuid /etc/mtab"
[14:32] <module000> tailcalled: actually you will see some stuff returned, but we don't want to see your root mountpoint in that list
[14:32] <llutz> LordDeath: most likely /usr/lib/firefox/(browser/)
[14:33] <kingko> hi
[14:33] <tailcalled> module000: http://pastebin.com/NGiBy4Tt
[14:34] <squaregoldfish> LordDeath: Trouble is, it may well get overwritten when Firefox is next updated.
[14:34] <module000> tailcalled: that looks good. next is "grep 140 /etc/passwd"
[14:35] <tailcalled> module000: no output
[14:35] <module000> tailcalled: good. have you rebooted since your upgrade?
[14:35] <tailcalled> module000: well, apparently I'm stupid, brb
[14:42] <tailcalled> module000: still broken
[14:43] <module000> tailcalled: what is the output of `ls -lh /usr/bin/sudo`
[14:43] <tailcalled> module000: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 152K Feb 10 20:16 /usr/bin/sudo
[14:44] <module000> tailcalled: that looks correct... my advice is to boot into single user mode and run dpkg -V as root
[14:45] <tailcalled> how do I boot into single user mode?
[14:46] <tailcalled> module000: whoops, forgot naming
[14:49] <module000> tailcalled: at the grub prompt, add the parameter "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel line. that will drop you directly into a root shell
[14:49] <jmadero> morning all - having a really weird problem
[14:49] <SuperJinJa> hi
[14:49] <module000> tailcalled: in a nutshell...that says that instead of running "init"(which boots up your system), it should run "sh"(a bare bones shell) as the first thing. hence, you get a prompt to a wide open system
[14:49] <tailcalled> module000: I'll try to figure it out, brb
[14:49] <jmadero> I have two languages installed, English shows up for almost everything but not for my login screen nor some other random things (like synaptic) which appear in Telugu
[14:49] <jmadero> when I check settings it looks like everything is set to English
[14:51] <santosh> hai
[14:51] <Guest999> ok
[14:52] <Guest999>  jil;'';
[14:58] <SP33D> Rory hey worked nice thx
[15:00] <usrb1n> Hello, is there an easy way to let a user have a folder on apache's www dir?. I have the user foo and I want him to be able to write his site on /var/www/foo
[15:00] <usrb1n> If I chown the directory, apache is not able to access it
[15:00] <trisquel> hi
[15:00] <llutz> usrb1n: chmod 755 it
[15:01] <trisquel> i need help downloading video
[15:01] <TJ-> usrb1n: Yes, use apache's mod_user so the user can use ~/public_html/ for their own site
[15:02] <whoever> hi all is there an issue with rhythmbox ? when I try to install it , it will not install siting dependancies
[15:02] <trisquel> its a locked video it uses some jwplayerhttp://www.jwplayer.com/about-jwplayer/
[15:03] <nd> ubantu 14.4 is ready to download or still under development i want stable version not beta
[15:04] <nd> sreekumar
[15:04] <daftykins> nd: never heard of ubantu, ubuntu 14.04 has been out for a while now though
[15:05] <nd> daftykins  thanx fella sudo intall spell cheker :p
[15:05] <nd> daftykins i want stable one
[15:06] <Rory> whoever: What is the full error please?
[15:06] <Rory> whoever: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[15:06] <daftykins> nd: go ahead and download it from ubuntu.com
[15:06] <jmadero> no thoughts on why my language settings are all screwed up
[15:06] <jmadero> ?
[15:07] <nd> daftykins one last question is it beta version i mean not stable one
[15:07] <llutz> nd: 14.04 is the latest release, considered to be stable
[15:07] <Rory> jmadero: Can you select the correct language from the login screen?
[15:07] <Rory> nd: Ubuntu 14.04 is the latest release, and it's definitely the best one to get in my opinion; it will be supported for I think 5 years
[15:07] <jmadero> Rory: select a language? (side note I use GDM)
[15:08] <jmadero> Rory: and remember it's also affecting some software like synaptic
[15:08] <daftykins> jmadero: someone recently was asking about login screen language, you need to change the order of languages in some program somewhere to get it to pick your preferred as default
[15:08] <mheinke> !morning!
[15:08] <trisquel> how can i download a secure video stream
[15:08] <daftykins> jmadero: oh wait you mean displayed language not keyboard layout?
[15:09] <trisquel> encrypted video stream
[15:09] <jmadero> daftykins: indeed
[15:09] <nd> alsa mixer is not workin my ubuntu is not makin any sound plus i lost my volume control key from right upeer part of desktop
[15:09] <jmadero> it's very weird
[15:09] <daftykins> ah sorry no idea on that one then
[15:09] <llutz> nd: your support question is?
[15:09] <jmadero> llutz: "how do I get my sound working again" ;)
[15:09] <jmadero> I think that's reading between the lines
[15:10] <whoever> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7405015/
[15:10] <llutz> jmadero: "i just want to rant" is what i read between the lines
[15:10] <jmadero> lol
[15:12] <nd> llutz ive saucy salamnder and its not makin any sound
[15:12] <jmadero> nd: that's still not really a question
[15:12] <jmadero> plus you need to give a lot more info like what sound card do you have
[15:12] <jmadero> what have you tried
[15:12] <jmadero> etc . . .
[15:12] <jmadero> also maybe time to upgrade to 14.04
[15:13] <whoever> Rory: did  you get my paste
[15:13] <jmadero> did it ever work, and if so, what were you doing when it broke?
[15:13] <jmadero> ...my guess is you were purging some package or removing something?
[15:13] <whoever> Rory: the point I am tring to make is that previeusly rhythmbox has not had that dependancey issue where it could not reolve dependancis
[15:14] <jmadero> isn't that project dead?
[15:14] <jmadero> I thought the devs quit
[15:14] <nd> jmadero i typed alsa mixer in command line it says no such directory?
[15:15] <jmadero> no such directory? um then you did "cd alsa mixer"?
[15:15] <g105b> I'm struggling to find an Ubuntu One alternative. I want a sync client that synchronises directories in my *home* directory, not just within the Dropbox/Insync directory. Any recommendations (software, or methods to hack things like Dropbox to behave like U1) ?
[15:15] <jmadero> g105b: I use spideroak
[15:15] <g105b> jmadero: does that satisfy my requirement?
[15:15] <jmadero> g105b: yes
[15:15] <HairisEverywhere> hu tgere\
[15:16] <HairisEverywhere> heeeololeeole
[15:16] <HairisEverywhere> hello
[15:16] <HairisEverywhere> my hair is everywhere
[15:16] <jmadero> ...
[15:16] <g105b> jmadero: cool. I'm lazy. price/GBs/other limitations?
[15:16] <jmadero> 2 gig limit, you can pay for more but no clue what price is
[15:16] <bazhang> !ot | HairisEverywhere
[15:16] <Hello_> Hello
[15:16] <jmadero> also if you get others to use it they increase your size
[15:17] <jmadero> so if you don't mind making me your reference ;)
[15:17] <Hello_> i was
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> what is this
[15:17] <Hello_> wondering
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> what is this
[15:17] <Hello_> if you have a dick
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> whatchu saying dawg
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> HUH
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> WHAT
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> DID
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> U SAY
[15:17] <Hello_> watch u say to me niggah
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> Dude WTF
[15:17] <Hello_> i will fk your mother
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> NO
[15:17] <HairisEverywhere> NO
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> !ops
[15:18] <IRCAdmin> Hello
[15:18] <FK_> Hello
[15:18] <jmadero> who do we ping to ban people?
[15:19] <IRCAdmin> I will ban
[15:19] <IRCAdmin> everyone
[15:19] <IRCAdmin> i wil ban
[15:19] <IRCAdmin> all of u
[15:19] <ikonia> jmadero: what's the problem
[15:20] <nd> haha fuck IRCadmin ban evryone :D no one answering me
[15:20] <ikonia> nd: tone down the language please
[15:20] <ikonia> there is no need for it and it's not welcome
[15:20] <z1haze> hi, Im trying to install arma 2 on my dedicated server, does anyone have any experience with installing that on a linux server?
[15:21] <z1haze> i did fine a tutorial but it says ill need a GUI, he recommends fluxbox, and also theres a note that its not worth it because WINE only works on a single core.. may I have some help with this?
[15:21] <nd> ikonia m not like that but see wts happning above
[15:21] <ikonia> nd: that doesn't change anything, please tone down the lanauge
[15:21] <ikonia> language too
[15:22] <nd> ikonia my alsamixer not making any sound m pissed off
[15:22] <nd> saucy is full of bugs
[15:22] <jmadero> nd: I was fine on Saucy
[15:23] <ikonia> nd: again, I appreciate that's frustrating, but your language is not needed, or welcome, please try to control it and people will help if they can
[15:23] <hax> hi
[15:23] <hax> so, i killed my ubuntu, i guess.
[15:24] <jmadero> hax: I hope you keep your home partition separate?
[15:24] <nd> jmadero its full of bugs
[15:24] <jmadero> nd: fine
[15:24] <jmadero> it's full of bugs that I never experienced
[15:24] <jmadero> and I use it every day
[15:24] <hax> i accidentally chmodded / to 777
[15:24] <hax> then didnt know what it sj-hould be
[15:25] <jmadero> oh that's not broken
[15:25] <z1haze> please will someone help with that?
[15:25] <hax> and did it 767
[15:25] <jmadero> you just changed permissions
[15:25] <DusXMT> hax: as long as you didn't chmod -R 777 it, you should be able to change the permission back
[15:25] <z1haze> im not a linux pro i just want to get this running
[15:25] <jmadero> z1haze: someone will help if they know the answer
[15:25] <hax> and then left the terminal
[15:25] <hax> :(
[15:25] <jmadero> open terminal back up and just change permissions
[15:25] <hax> so, / is now 767 and sudo doen't work
[15:25] <hax> doesn't*
[15:25] <ikonia> "doesn't work"
[15:25] <ikonia> hax: what is the EXACT command you use
[15:26] <hax> goeo_@goeoscom:~/Desktop/adir$ sudo su
[15:26] <hax> sudo: unable to stat /etc/sudoers: No such file or directory
[15:26] <hax> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[15:26] <hax> sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
[15:26] <ikonia> hax: what is the exact command you used to set the permissions
[15:26] <ikonia> hax: also don't "sudo su"
[15:26] <ikonia> it would appear you have done more than change permissions
[15:26] <jmadero> yes it would
[15:27] <hax> root@goeoscom:/home/goeo_/Desktop/adir# chmod 767 /
[15:27] <jmadero> hax: is your home directory on a separate partition - if so just reinstall
[15:27] <jmadero> it's fastest
[15:27] <ikonia> hax: what about before that
[15:27] <jmadero> you can literally do it in 10 minutes
[15:27] <ikonia> hax: what was the command before that
[15:27] <hax> root@goeoscom:/home/goeo_/Desktop/adir# chmod 777 /
[15:27] <hax> ikonia: i never used a different command lol
[15:28] <hax> being 767 kills it
[15:28] <hax> / being 767*
[15:28] <nd> jmadero it doesnt format pendrive it doesnt keep up bookmark places and where did my volume button go from above of desktop
[15:28] <nd> no one knows
[15:28] <DusXMT> hax: Maybe you can load up a Live CD, mount it and set the permission from there?
[15:28] <DusXMT> s/mount it/mount your root drive/
[15:28] <jmadero> nd: like I said I'm agreeing with you, so buggy that I never once saw any problems but yes "so buggy"
[15:29] <hax> DusXMT: what is the proper permission?
[15:29] <jmadero> nd: if so buggy then just purge it and install 14.04
[15:29] <jmadero> simple
[15:29] <DusXMT> hax: On my system, it's 755
[15:29] <jmadero> and hopefully you were smart enough to keep a separate home partition
[15:29] <hax> 755.. weird.. then how can 767 kill sudo?
[15:29] <hax> should i try a reboot first maybe?
[15:30] <nd> jmadero if you agree and you too purge that and install unicorn
[15:30] <DusXMT> hax: Because in order to search through directories, a user needs the 'x' permission, which comes with every odd permission number
[15:31] <DusXMT> hax: Maybe sudo relies on being able to search through files in a group associated with it
[15:31] <hax> maybe. i see.
[15:31] <DusXMT> In that case, it can't do that with the '6'
[15:31] <jmadero> nd: I'm done - you're annoying and can keep not getting help from anyone it doesn't hurt me, my system is running perfect
[15:31] <hax> but is sudo a user?
[15:32] <jmadero> no
[15:32] <jmadero> sudo is upping the priv. of your main user (or any other admin)
[15:32] <DusXMT> hax: no, but it's in a group, and relies on accessing files of that group, I think
[15:32] <hax> i mean, why would it use the user permissions
[15:32] <hax> oh i see
[15:32] <DusXMT> hax: you changed the group permission from '5' to '6', '6' being 'rw-'
[15:33] <DusXMT> hax: Load up your ubuntu install CD, mount the drive, and chmod it to something like 755 to fix it
[15:34] <jmadero> might as well ask one more time before having to start doing some work - anyone have any idea why my display language is set to my secondary language on GDM, as well as random software like Synaptic?
[15:34] <nd> jmadero but mine not and i also have debian and its super stable
[15:34] <jmadero> everything else is English (and keyboard layout is english)
[15:34] <jmadero> nd: then stick with debian, like I said, I really could care less
[15:34] <jmadero> couldn't*
[15:35] <jmadero> 14.04 is the LTS, it's stable and what not, it seems like if you're having all these bugs with Saucy, just install LTS
[15:35] <jmadero> and be done with it
[15:35] <jmadero> and you really are yet to adequately ask a real question
[15:35] <jmadero> you've complained a bunch
[15:35] <jmadero> and hinted at a few questions
[15:36] <jmadero> but those questions you haven't provided any information what so ever to help us help you
[15:36] <jmadero> which is apparently what you want (but I'm not sure, maybe you just want to rant about Ubuntu)
[15:36] <z1haze> can someone help me install a gui onmy server, or how do i check to see if it has one?
[15:36] <jmadero> in which case, give us a heads up so everyone can ignore you
[15:37] <DusXMT> z1haze: Okay, what desktop envinroment do you want on it? (preferably something light, so the server can use most of it's resources on serving)
[15:37] <jmadero> Enlightenment!
[15:37]  * jmadero is a huge fan of E17
[15:37] <nd> my system not makin any sound i have typed alsamixer in terminal but it wont work
[15:37] <z1haze> im not sure DusXMT, imtrying to follow a tutorial to run arma2 server on linux,
[15:37] <jmadero> nd: still not a question
[15:37] <z1haze> im juist trying to follow what it isays, i dont really know what for
[15:37] <DusXMT> z1haze: care to give me a link?
[15:37] <jmadero> nd: can you detect your sound card in terminal?
[15:38] <z1haze> sure: http://opendayz.net/threads/guide-hosting-a-dayz-arma-server-on-linux.11691/
[15:38] <SP33D> can some one help me to understand that
[15:38] <jmadero> nd: also what does your computer spit out if you just type "alsamixer" in terminal (no quotes)
[15:38] <SP33D> i replaced my ssh keys with a copy from a diffrent pc where all works
[15:38] <SP33D> and i get http://pastebin.com/hBqQAAGy
[15:38] <nd> it gives output as no such directory
[15:38] <jmadero> SP33D: um that won't work
[15:38] <jmadero> SP33D: that would make SSH keys the most worthless things ever
[15:38] <jmadero> if you could just copy them and use them elsewhere
[15:38] <SP33D> i simply don't understand what means no begin mark found the key looks valid in the file and works on the other pc
[15:39] <jmadero> yes you can't just copy a ssh key to a new computer
[15:39] <z1haze> he also mentions that the WINE program required does not use all the cores so i guess thats an issue too
[15:39] <jmadero> that would be so insecure
[15:39] <SP33D> ya but it works normaly
[15:39] <SP33D> i do that often but i now used a git repo on a central server
[15:39] <jmadero> SP33D: on the computer that generated they key it works right?
[15:39] <SP33D> pushed keys to the git and pulled back
[15:39] <SP33D> all looks working but now i get http://pastebin.com/hBqQAAGy
[15:40] <SP33D> and i pushed from the pc and pulled to the pc where it worked
[15:40] <SP33D> on all other pc's where i copyed the file normal all works
[15:40] <jmadero> ...that's weird
[15:40] <SP33D> he complains about missing a begin mark look error output
[15:40] <SP33D> http://pastebin.com/hBqQAAGy
[15:40] <nd> jmadero it gives out put as no such directory
[15:40] <adamk> nd: Pastebin the output of 'aplay -l'
[15:40] <jmadero> nd: are you putting "cd" before it?
[15:40] <jmadero> if so you shouldn't be
[15:41] <z1haze> i also have copied my ssh key from one computer to another and it worked. maybe i did something wrong
[15:41] <jmadero> nd: what about sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[15:41] <jmadero> then run it again
[15:41] <nd> adamk ok jmadero no
[15:42] <nd> aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...
[15:42] <nd>     adamk
[15:42] <jmadero> ah so you purged your sound card
[15:42] <jmadero> nd: is your system fully updated
[15:42] <DusXMT> z1haze: So you're stuck at the part where you're supposed to download the thing, but can't because you don't have a graphical envinroment, which is needed by steam?
[15:42] <jmadero> nd: sudo apt get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:42] <DusXMT> (just making sure I understand your issue)
[15:42] <z1haze> DusXMT, i havent started yet, im wasnt sure where to begin
[15:43] <z1haze> im not good aat this stuff, the server is mainly just used for minecraft and a website, but they want arma/dayz now so i have to try to figure ths out
[15:43] <nd> jmadero actually sound was perfectly workin before but since i installed mpg123 terminal player from centre somthing happnd i dont know
[15:43] <jmadero> there we go, finally you gave us info of when things went wrong
[15:43] <jmadero> before you acted like Ubuntu just broke itself with you doing nothing at all
[15:43] <jmadero> nd: but do an update/upgrade
[15:44] <nd> matrix
[15:44] <jmadero> nd: what sound card do you have?
[15:44] <z1haze> DusXMT, what should i do first
[15:45] <DusXMT> z1haze: hmmm. Sorry, I have no experience with propriotary servers
[15:45] <nd> jmadero how to find that? any commands
[15:45] <DusXMT> I guess from the beginning of the thread?
[15:45] <z1haze> what do u mean propriotary server?
[15:45] <z1haze> i rent this machine
[15:46] <DusXMT> z1haze: I don't mean the computer, but the arma server
[15:46] <z1haze> oh, well thats fine i can prolly get thru that, i just need the linux help
[15:46] <jmadero> nd: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd
[15:46] <adamk> nd: Pastebin the outputs from 'lspci' 'lsmod' and 'dmesg'.
[15:46] <z1haze> it says i need a gui of sorts what should i use?
[15:46] <z1haze> also does WINE only use a single core?
[15:46] <jmadero> nd: I suspect your sound module screwed up
[15:47] <jmadero> nd: honestly just follow these steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[15:47] <DusXMT> z1haze: Do you connect to the server remotely? And via what service? SSH? What program? Putty? Cygwin SSH?
[15:47] <z1haze> yes ssh putty
[15:47] <jmadero> nd: starting with step 5
[15:48] <DusXMT> z1haze: Then your best bet will to be to learn about X forwarding, how to set up an X server on windows, and that'll be your gui
[15:48] <z1haze> whoa a what?
[15:48] <DusXMT> z1haze: It allows you to run graphical programs via SSH
[15:48] <z1haze> is this very complicated?
[15:48] <DusXMT> z1haze: Depending on your computer skills
[15:49] <z1haze> i dont guess u want to help with that now?
[15:49] <holstein> z1haze: wine helps run windows applications.. unsupported 3rd party proprietary code.. you should try and find native solutions when possible
[15:49] <jmadero> z1haze: are you being paid for this? lol
[15:49] <jmadero> it sounds like you are and you want us to actually do the work
[15:49] <z1haze> no i just want to help my community
[15:49] <jmadero> lol oh okay
[15:49] <jmadero> (sorry then)
[15:50] <DusXMT> z1haze: just google around, google `X server on Windows', `X Forwarding in Putty', etc.
[15:50] <jmadero> but it sounds like these things are above your capabilities, and what you are asking others to do is to do the work for you
[15:50] <z1haze> what whould i get paid for?
[15:50] <z1haze> well no, just maybe teach me
[15:50] <jmadero> because DusXMT has been trying to help
[15:50] <z1haze> i know, what are you getting at?
[15:50] <jmadero> z1haze: part of being in linux is learning to google well - most of the answers are out there
[15:50] <jmadero> and for us to help it would just be us doing google searches
[15:51] <jmadero> DusXMT has provided you with the starting steps
[15:51] <jmadero> he's likely not going to give you a step by step tutorial
[15:51] <z1haze> ok i just dont want to mess up and brick this whole server
[15:51] <jmadero> well maybe he will ;) but those kinds of people are hard to find because most people don't have that kind of time
[15:51] <holstein> z1haze: you should be prepared for that... all hardware fails
[15:52] <jmadero> z1haze: I hope you back everything up before playing around with it
[15:52] <z1haze> i dont even know how to do that stuff :(
[15:52] <z1haze> sorry to bother you guys
[15:52] <jmadero> then you shouldn't be doing this sorry to say
[15:52] <jmadero> if you don't know how to back up your system
[15:52] <jmadero> you shouldn't be playing around with advanced stuff
[15:52] <jmadero> seems like you are trying to do like step 100 instead of starting at step 1
[15:53] <z1haze> how does one back it upo
[15:53] <jmadero> and step 1 is always learn how to back up
[15:53] <jmadero> z1haze: google . . .
[15:53] <jmadero> z1haze: you're running Ubuntu server?
[15:53] <holstein> z1haze: you can use tools such as virtualization to setup test servers and scenarios.. ones to break, and try and restore.. etc
[15:53] <z1haze> yes
[15:53] <z1haze> sadly i know more than everyone else lol
[15:53] <jmadero> holstein: he can't do that if he doesn't know how to back up
[15:53] <jmadero> z1haze: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/backups.html
[15:54] <z1haze> the server is provided through ovh doesit it backup by itself
[15:54] <jmadero> first hit on google
[15:54] <holstein> jmadero: im proposing learning to backup on a virtual environment
[15:54] <jmadero> you should have your own back up if you're playing with it
[15:54] <jmadero> holstein: ah - then you have to teach how to set up a virtual environment
[15:54] <jmadero> ;)
[15:54] <holstein> jmadero: ;)
[15:54] <jmadero> z1haze: I'm not trying to be an asshole, so I apologize if I am coming off as one
[15:54] <jmadero> I just don't think you should be playing with a production server
[15:55] <jmadero> if you can't do these things :-/
[15:55] <jmadero> best to install locally on some test machine and actually learn stuff first
[15:55] <jmadero> you'll end up saving everyone a lot of time and frustration
[15:55] <Pici> 7/0
[15:56] <jmadero> learn as you go on a production server is a very dangerous game ;)
[15:56] <ubilli8> please i have this error   ||| Fetched 559 kB in 4s (127 kB/s)
[15:57] <ubilli8> Reading package lists... Done
[15:57] <ubilli8> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is n
[15:57] <ubilli8> ot available: NO_PUBKEY D1106511179518B2
[15:57] <ubilli8> W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
[15:57] <ubilli8> 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[15:57] <unopaste> ubilli8 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:57] <holstein> unopaste: no public key for the source..
[15:57] <nd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7405256/
[15:58] <nd> adamk
[15:58] <OerHeks> i see this too often. people loosing keys from one standard repo
[15:58] <holstein> unopaste: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127326/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys for example.. you are likely adding a PPA.. ask the ppa maintainers for support
[15:58] <jmadero> nd: literally the link I provided offers step by step guide to resolving your problem
[15:59] <nd> jmadero ok fella let me ckh
[16:00] <ni571612> hello
[16:00] <BiancoNeri> hello
[16:00] <BiancoNeri> hello
[16:00] <BiancoNeri> hello
[16:00] <BiancoNeri> hello
[16:00] <BiancoNeri> hello
[16:00] <BiancoNeri> hello
[16:00] <unopaste> BiancoNeri you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:02] <z1haze> jmadero, can i use the FTP backupthat OVH has?
[16:02] <z1haze> they say i have 100gb of backup
[16:02] <jmadero> z1haze: I think you're missing the point
[16:02] <jmadero> you're playing with a production machine
[16:02] <jmadero> in ways that are going to lead to breaking things
[16:03] <jmadero> and hoping that people here will baby step you through it
[16:03] <z1haze> well thats why i came for some help from experience
[16:03] <z1haze> but u just want to point me to google, so i assume im onmy own
[16:03] <jmadero> z1haze: no this is what any expert would say
[16:03] <jmadero> z1haze: learn on a test machine, then use the skills on aproduction machine
[16:03] <jmadero> z1haze: I do the same damn thing
[16:03] <moza> Hello. I'm trying to install ekiga 4.0.1 on ubuntu 12.04. It seems it's not in the ppa for 12.04. Is there any other way to install that version of ekiga without having to compile the source? It seems it's available as a package for newer versions of ubuntu.
[16:03] <z1haze> i dont have a "test" machine
[16:04] <jmadero> z1haze: then I suppose install a vm - but that's a whole new nightmare
[16:04] <z1haze> im sure it is
[16:04] <z1haze> like i said
[16:04] <jmadero> z1haze: this is like me not knowing anything at all about cars and oging to a mechanic and saying "teach me how to build an engine"
[16:04] <z1haze> i need to be taught something
[16:04] <z1haze> so ican work fromthere
[16:04] <jmadero> z1haze: yes so I suppose a vm is best to start with, and not on that server
[16:04] <jmadero> z1haze: install a vm on the system you're running right now
[16:04] <z1haze> well thats the only server i have
[16:04] <z1haze> the windows
[16:05] <z1haze> machine?
[16:05] <jmadero> z1haze: you can install a vm linux machine on the windows machine
[16:05] <jmadero> z1haze: do that
[16:05] <z1haze> ok
[16:05] <TomyWork> hi
[16:05] <jmadero> z1haze: http://www.instructables.com/id/Introduction-38/
[16:05] <TomyWork> i just went to a 13.04 live cd to make a full disk image
[16:05] <TomyWork> but i cant swapoff
[16:06] <z1haze> thanks i bookmarked that, i haveto go to class ill work on that later. thanks
[16:06] <mitch-_> that was weird.... this channel was invite only for a bit!
[16:06] <jmadero> z1haze: sure, sorry you think you're not getting help, this is the best help you can get
[16:06] <jmadero> don't mess around with production machines unless you know something
[16:06] <jmadero> and asking experts to spend hours teaching you every little detail will annoy people
[16:06] <TomyWork> no matter what i try, whether directly using "sudo swapoff /dev/sda6", or through kde partition manager, the program in question will just lock up
[16:07] <TomyWork> i cant even "kill -9" the swapoff process even though it's in state R for running
[16:07] <daftykins> TomyWork: what was the point in trying to disable swap at all?
[16:07] <TomyWork> daftykins, so i can make a disk image
[16:07] <mitch-_> !alis list #nano*
[16:07] <daftykins> TomyWork: wouldn't it make more sense using the actual filesystems with data instead?
[16:08] <TomyWork> daftykins, no
[16:08] <mitch-_> alis list *nano*
[16:08] <daftykins> it would to me (:
[16:08] <mitch-_> how do i ge tthat to show me possible nano channels? i have a nano syntax question
[16:08] <TomyWork> it's harder to restore, for one
[16:08] <daftykins> TomyWork: so you're in a live session... reboot
[16:08] <TomyWork> and less precise
[16:08] <TomyWork> daftykins, this is my 2nd attempt already
[16:08] <daftykins> mitch-_: join #freenode for server support please
[16:09] <TomyWork> can i tell it not to use swap at all, maybe? i have plenty of ram
[16:09] <mitch-_> daftykins, what? no.... nano editor.... syntax highlighting question. i need their channel name.... #nano doesnt work
[16:10] <daftykins> mitch-_: sure but i'm asking for you to ask them how to find channels, this is Ubuntu support, not freenode support.
[16:10] <llutz> !alis | mitch-_
[16:10] <mitch-_> daftykins, OH ok. thanks.
[16:12] <TomyWork> how do i prevent the 13.04 live cd from using the swap partition on my disk
[16:13] <TomyWork> daftykins, when i shut down after the last attempt, i got kernel messages starting with "BUG"
[16:13] <murat> #ubuntu-tr
[16:14] <daftykins> TomyWork: i really don't think it's using it at all, that's not the way swap partitions on a disk operate when booting a live session
[16:14] <daftykins> it's just that swap partitions are active until disabled.
[16:15] <daftykins> normally another route to disable it would be through gparted, though that would likely just call the same command as you had typed
[16:15] <robicorti> Ciao
[16:15] <daftykins> however - your live session being 13.04, an unsupported release, i can't comment
[16:15] <TomyWork> swapon -s shows it, kde partition manager shows a lock icon on the swap partition and the extended partition that contains it
[16:15] <robicorti> Il signore degli anelli
[16:16] <TomyWork> and 13.10 probably has the same versions of these tools
[16:17] <robicorti> cerco il signore degli anelli
[16:17] <daftykins> well i assume also from your reference to KDE software that it's kubuntu
[16:17] <Pici> !it | robicorti
[16:17] <daftykins> TomyWork: fresh boot the live session and see what 'mount' reports
[16:18] <TomyWork> i can tell you that right away without rebooting and fiddling with the proxy settings again
[16:19] <TomyWork> proxy, keyboard, reinstalling xchat
[16:19] <daftykins> tell what
[16:20] <TomyWork> this is strange, it freezes when i unmount anything
[16:20] <TomyWork> i'll reboot and retry
[16:26] <nd>  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules- uname-r linux-generic
[16:26] <nd>  on typing this it says unable to locate package
[16:27] <nd> y it says that
[16:27] <daftykins> nd: that's because "uname -r" is a command, not a package
[16:27] <nd> what should i do
[16:27] <daftykins> what are you *actually* trying to do?
[16:28] <nd> daftykins im tryin to install restricted modules so ubuntu can detect my sound card
[16:29] <nd> daftykins it says unable to locate linux-ristricte -modules
[16:29] <Fohlen> anyone knows what "non-system disk" could mean? I'm trying to install a fresh ubuntu 14.04 via usb (using unetbootin 6.03)
[16:29] <Fohlen> I'm getting "non-system disk. Press any key to reboot"
[16:30] <Rory> Fohlen: Does the USB boot correctly in another computer? It might be a corrupted download
[16:30] <Rory> !md5sum | Fohlen
[16:30] <linuxthefish> has anyone used wintv aero-m here? :/
[16:30] <linuxthefish> i have driver but it won't install...
[16:31] <Fohlen> Rory thought about the same. I will check.
[16:32] <Fohlen> Rory nope. The image has exactly same md5sum.
[16:32] <Fohlen> Rory might be using fat32 cause the error?
[16:33] <nd> y it says that
[16:34] <daftykins> heh, quit as i'm about to reply
[16:36] <Kion> I did sudo apt-get upgrade and I got the message "The following packages have been kept back:" and it does not upgrade those packages, any reason for that?
[16:39] <Fohlen> Kion: what ubuntu version are you on?
[16:40] <Fohlen> Normally it does mean the system prevents from upgrading because of incompatibilities, such as on kernel upgrades.
[16:40] <Kion> 12.04
[16:40] <daftykins> Kion: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show what it actually says? in full detail
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: what tv chip does it use?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: what is the USB ID of it?
[16:41] <Kion> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7405499/
[16:42] <TomyWork> daftykins, mounting that silly smb share i was going to backup to apparently prevented me from deactivating swap... reboot, swapoff, mount, backup and it's running
[16:42] <linuxthefish> ID 2040:5520
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: is that what you have been using to find guides?
[16:42] <linuxthefish> i'll paypal $5 to whoever can fix it, been trying all day :/
[16:42] <daftykins> TomyWork: :)
[16:42] <linuxthefish> ActionParsnip just to watch TV
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: its a hauppage chip
[16:43] <linuxthefish> yeah
[16:43] <TomyWork> anyway, going home now, and thanks for prodding me in the right direction :)
[16:43] <linuxthefish> people say it works but it needs some driver
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm   do you see the requirement for a firmware file?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: http://doc.fedoraonline.it/Installazione_USB_DVB-T_Hauppauge!_WinTV_Aero    I found that
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: its the same TV chip, you need to ignore what is printed on the pretty casing and see what chip the system sees. _That_ is what you want the driver for
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: so 'wintv' doesnt help you much here at all. WinTV have bought Hauppage chips and used them to make USB TV thingies
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: http://forum.linux-club.de/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=107653
[16:45] <linuxthefish> oh :(
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: do you see in dmesg the wanting for a firmware file ?
[16:45] <linuxthefish> yeah
[16:46] <meepers_> i have a g750 asus rog i have ubuntu 14.04 everything works great but im a bit unerv. from what just happen. i pressed ubuntu in grub and the fans started working fast yet i been using this os without any problems.
[16:46] <linuxthefish> it's the one in the article, i'll give it a go :D
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: its what trips up a lot of new users
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: does an MSI Nvidia 250GS need a different driver to an ASUS Nvidia 250GS ?
[16:47] <Fohlen> Rory the checksum is correct as well as the device is. This error occurs on several machines.
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: no, its an nvidia chip on both, its the same chip. The fact that its made by manufactuirer A or manufacturer B is of zero consequence
[16:47] <Fohlen> I tested multiple acer laptops, all the same result.
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish: people get so hung up on the brand they can see that they forget its the guts you are driving :)
[16:48] <linuxthefish> o
[16:48] <STPI> hello
[16:48] <linguini> I want to screencast my desktop in real-time to 4 other people, all of whom are using Mac machines.  What software can I use to accomplish this?
[16:49] <STPI>  In terms of performance and stability, what would be the best? Ubuntu 14.04 with gnome-session-fallback or Ubuntu GNOME 14.04?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> STPI: i'd say ubuntu gnome
[16:51] <frzng> hi there, is there anyone involved in ubuntu/canonical partner program? or someone to speak to in defailt about it?
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> frzng  more specifically?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> frzng: I suggest you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic this is tech support
[16:53] <STPI> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:53] <STPI> can you explain me why?
[16:54] <frzng> MonkeyDust: we are an ISV with some neat software and had trouble even submitting the form on the website (it wasn’t working), so I am asking here.
[16:55] <frzng> ActionParsnip: ok, will move there. thx
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> STPI: the fallback imho is a bit of a hack. Gnome shell is solid and decent
[16:58] <STPI> ActionParsnip: alright, but won't gnome-session-fallback use less ressources than GNOME 3.10?
[16:58] <Styles____> I'm using Empathy, can I show the console some how?
[16:58] <Styles____> irc console**
[17:00] <xangua> Styles____: empathy irc support it's very limited, I would recommend you to use a real irc client
[17:00] <Styles____> xangua: yeah I'm seeing that
[17:00] <Styles____> XChat or IRSSI it is
[17:01] <Derpadong> XCHAT for GUI, IRSSI for console
[17:01] <Styles____> Yep
[17:02] <Derpadong> Im on my Windows Machine using HexChat
[17:02] <Styles____> I'll probably go for  irssi. I can run it on a server and just be logged in via that :p lazy
[17:02] <Neptunia> Styles____: Or HexChat too ;)
[17:02] <Derpadong> But on Linux Im using irssi
[17:02] <Styles____> Isn't XChat and HexChat just both branches of ....
[17:02] <Styles____> I think it's xchat actually lol
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> STPI: i'd say it was pretty even, could try both to check
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> STPI: if you want low resource use, install openbox and use that as WM instead of mutter and so forth
[17:03] <motjaba> Hi, after upgrading to ubuntu 14.04, the color of the up menu is dark, does anybody know how can I change it to white?
[17:03] <Derpadong> HexChat is a fork of xchat but more updated
[17:03] <motjaba> It is now very difficult to read
[17:03] <SDr> hello ubuntu people, what do you use for lightweight sendmail SMTP function? Specifically, I'm looking for something which has at least a queue (so that php's mail() to return immediately), but without operating a relay, or other heavyweight stuff
[17:04] <SDr> primary use case is error reporting to my private mailbox (user-facing email is handled by mandrill), so it doesn't have to be spamproof, or provide identity, just fire off an SMTP request to gmail
[17:05] <e_d_b> SDr: I was going to recommend sSMTP but the need for a queue kills that reco.
[17:05] <e_d_b> that said, i use it to mail me upon cron completions and it works well enough for that
[17:06] <SDr> e_d_b, yes, ssmtp is awesome! and I have that in production for another server; I'm wondering here, if I could cut off the 3 sec lag in error contingencies
[17:06] <SDr> (3 sec lag brought on by ssmtp making an smtp handshake dance with google's servers. )
[17:07] <e_d_b> you know...now that you mention, that lag may be one of my problems...i sometimes don't get the notice even though cron runs.
[17:07] <e_d_b> I guess i need to add to my 'to do' list
[17:07] <kober> Hey, when I ulimit -n -H it says "1024" and I'm trying to bump that. I've updated /etc/sysctl.conf  with fs.file-max = 100000, /etc/security/limits.conf with * hard nofile 65536, and /etc/pam.d/login  with session required pam_limits.so  and it still says 1024
[17:07] <kober> what else could I try?
[17:07] <ghartz_> SDr, take a look at nullmailer
[17:07] <Lucax> Good morning, day or evening to you all depending on which side of our globe you are sitting. I have a question, here goes: I have installed Wine and a lot of programs, now I want to remove them, what is the best way? 1. to uninstal within wine 2. to enter the C: and delete the whole thing, ( I will anyhow remove wine)
[17:08] <ghartz_> I use it with a smtp provider
[17:09] <SDr> ghartz, does nullmailer implements ssl yet, such that it can interop with gmail?
[17:09] <ghartz_> SDr, I use it like a proxy mailer
[17:09] <dfcnvt> OSD + RSS = ??? Anybody know such software with this mixture?
[17:09] <ghartz_> dunno if you can send mail directly
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> what's OSD?
[17:10] <dfcnvt> MonkeyDust: On Screen Display
[17:10] <niargh> GUI hangs on 14.04 - I can ssh from another computer - how to restart GUI withous shutting down?
[17:10] <SDr> niargh, stop X, then startX ?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> dfcnvt: feedindicator is decent, uses the envelope icon in the system tray
[17:11]  * dfcnvt is checking now.
[17:11] <Flada> Is it possible to move the .vbox files to another hard drive?
[17:11] <niargh> SDr: so from remote computer, "sudo service stop ???"
[17:12] <motjaba> Hi, after upgrading to ubuntu 14.04, the color of the up menu is dark, does anybody know how can I change it to white?
[17:12] <epsilon1> xrandr gave me :  1920x1080 60.0*+                    Is that my monitor's current refresh rate (its refresh rate this moment) ?
[17:12] <benighted> hey all, just installed libapache-mod-security but the installation didn't create /etc/modsecurity or contents - no errors throughout the process, tried 'a2enmod headers' to no avail
[17:12] <zeitsofa> "sudo service YOURSERVICE stop" niargh
[17:12] <SDr> Flada, yes: there's a VirtualBox.xml somewhere in your home directory, that you can update to reflect changes to the mounted .vbox VMS
[17:12] <adamk> epsilon1: Yes.
[17:13] <quint> anybody else having trouble with cifs mounting a windows share on kernel 3.13.0-24 ?
[17:13] <dfcnvt> ActionParsnip: Empathy, Pidgin, Thunderbird... No 'feedindicator' there...unless I have to install it?
[17:13] <Flada> SDr ok will chack that
[17:13] <niargh> zeitsofa: right what is the name of the X service? [point being I'm trying to restart hung GUI from remote computer using ssh]
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> Flada  you can also "export to .ova" and keep that file somewhere -- when you open it, it re-creates all the files
[17:14] <Flada> MonkeyDust okay
[17:14] <awesomess3> `sudo stop cups` on Ubuntu 13.10 doesn't register, it just sits there. I'm using the latest cups.
[17:14] <daftykins> cupsd ?
[17:14] <awesomess3> yeah
[17:14] <daftykins> sudo service cupsd stop
[17:14] <zeitsofa> niargh: try sudo service gdm restart (I'm not sure what Desktop Manager is installed on your system, e.g. kdm, gdm, lightdm)
[17:14] <dfcnvt> ActionParsnip: Assuming it's Empathy, just which account accept in the form of RSS?
[17:15] <motjaba> Hi, after upgrading to ubuntu 14.04, the color of the up menu is dark, does anybody know how can I change it to white? It is now very difficult to read.
[17:15] <Flada> Btw is it possible to v
[17:15] <Flada> ops
[17:15] <niargh> zeitsofa: thanks, just tried that [lightdm] and also tried x11-common, but GUI is still hung...
[17:15] <daftykins> awesomess3: sudo service cupsd stop
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> motjaba  try changing the !theme
[17:16] <motjaba> MonkeyDust: I did it, but the default is better than the others, except the color.
[17:16] <Flada> is it possible to make virtualbox as a screen to controll my raspberry pi?
[17:16] <motjaba> how can I just change the color?
[17:17] <Pricey> Flada: That doesn't really make sense. Look into using something like vnc instead.
[17:17] <awesomess3> daftykins, oh weird. I CTRL+C'd out of my `sudo stop cups` and then when I did `sudo service cups stop` (cupsd says 'unrecognized service') it says 'stop: Unknown instance:' and `netstat -tap` says cupsd isn't running anymore. problem solved I guess.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> dfcnvt: the accounts you add, when a new post is seen it will flag up
[17:17] <awesomess3> daftykins, next time I will use `sudo service cups stop`
[17:17] <zeitsofa> niargh: try "ps aux | less" and have a look whats running.
[17:17] <quint> Flada: no idea why you would want to do that
[17:18] <quint> Flada: use ssh
[17:18] <Flada> I was just woundering if that is possible
[17:18] <quint> Flada: are you looking for a way to have a remote view of x11?
[17:18] <niargh> zeitsofa: argh! too late I rebooted... sorry I was impatient. I'll come back when it hangs next and be more patient.
[17:18] <aarobc> I'm getting this error and I can't figure out how to fix it: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse.so.2
[17:19] <zeitsofa> niargh: kk. c U :)
[17:19] <Flada> quint yea something like that
[17:19] <quint> Flada: you should install x11vnc on your raspi
[17:19] <quint> and install vinagre as a client on the computer you're connecting to it with
[17:20] <Flada> quint  will try that
[17:20] <quint> Flada: please remember to read the manual page for x11vnc
[17:21] <Flada> quint will do that
[17:21] <quint> cheers.
[17:21] <Flada> thx :)
[17:21] <dfcnvt> ActionParsnip: I got it.  Using 'Bamboo' extension in Thunderbird. Added a rss feed. Worked.
[17:21] <dfcnvt> Thanks
[17:22] <TehNubKilla> Flada, have a look at shh, and x11 forwarding, and how to keep processes running after you close the connection. That's how I remote into my rpi
[17:23] <Flada> TehNubKilla ok
[17:23] <TehNubKilla> It takes load off the pi because its only running a console and most of the x11 code runs on the machine your controlling
[17:24] <epsilon1> adamk: thank you. So, 60.0* means the refresh rate at the moment I typed xrandr ?
[17:24] <Lucax> is it best to uninstall programs within wine or to delete the content in C:/?
[17:24] <adamk> epsilon1: Yes.
[17:25] <xangua> Lucax: the wine uninstaller will remove the menus entries
[17:26] <Lucax> the wine uninstaller will remove wine and all its content, right?
 great. Thank you again. It means that Ubuntu chose the correct refresh rate itself.
[17:28] <sls> join #als
[17:30] <Lucax> with wine uninstal, the program will go with its content, is this right?
[17:30] <Lucax> since it is existing within wine
[17:31] <Pici> Lucax: you mean if uninstall wine itself?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Lucax: yes, you may find the icon stays in dash. You may need to manually remove that bit
[17:31] <Ammar> hello, can someone help me with a network connectivity issue on ubuntu 14.04?
[17:31] <Lucax> pici: yes
[17:32] <Pici> Lucax: then no. package removals do not remove anything in user's home directories, which is where wine installs programs.
[17:32] <Lucax> my only problem now is that the wine uninstal is not working
[17:32] <Lucax> does this user home directory belong to linux or a virtual home within wine?
[17:33] <Ammar> Hi, can I get some help regarding a network issue?
[17:33] <Pici> Lucax: your user's home. in Ubuntu.  in ~/.wine/
[17:33] <Lucax> I see
[17:34] <Lucax> well, I can go in and throw each program manually in the trash I guess
[17:34] <Lucax> and I deal with wine later
[17:34] <qin_> Lucax: wine uninstall is very theoretical, it fail in most cases to remove programs from menus and from ~/.wine
[17:34] <tiblock> Hi. I got ubuntu 12.04. I did "apt-get dist-upgrade" it upgraded to 12.04.4. And now he says nothing to upgrade more. But i want 14. What im doing wrong?
[17:34] <qin_> *fails
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Lucax: you can run the uninstaller file like you would in Windows
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> tiblock: you will get offered 14.04 in June when the first point release is out
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> tiblock: 14.04.1
[17:35] <tiblock> ActionParsnip, i thought 14 is released allredy. Okay. Thank you.
[17:35] <qin_> tiblock: do-release-upgrade; ??
[17:35] <oki1> hello
[17:36] <oki1> to everbody
[17:36] <tiblock> qin_, no new release found. It not released.
[17:36] <qin_> tiblock: try -d switch
[17:37] <tiblock> qin_, i will wait release. Dont want to be beta tester.
[17:38] <Lucax> hmm, removing icons from the application list is also not so easy
[17:38] <oki1> i have one question so if you can help me?  i have ubuntu release 12.04. LTS 32 bit, so i need to install viber on computer but m question is can how can i do it or how can i combine with skype or otehr kind of comunication type and regulate a viber for use, i need a viber
[17:39] <qin_> tiblock: http://askubuntu.com/questions/443556/upgrading-12-04-to-14-04-beta
[17:39] <aarobc> does this mean a wrong architecture? ImportError: /home/ac/Documents/DigisparkExamplePrograms/Python/DigiUSB/linux/DigiUSBMonitor.AppDir/usr/share/pyshared/wx/_core_.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[17:39] <Lucax> anyone knows how to remove icons from application list?
[17:39] <tiblock> qin_, no beta. Will wait release. Thank you.
[17:39] <qin_> 14.04 is no longer beta, tiblock
[17:39] <tiblock> qin_, uhm... But its not released
[17:40] <Pici> qin_: the 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade path will not be open until 14.04.1 is released
[17:40] <llutz> aarobc: yes, you need 64bit
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> oki1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/340924/how-to-install-viber-in-ubuntu#340925
[17:40] <qin_> Pici: thans, it just echoed in my head
[17:41] <aarobc> llutz: I thought wxpython includes 64 bit support, and I'm already running 64 bit python
[17:41] <oki1> anyone knows how can i solve a probelm beacuse i fond only a way which funticonally on 64bit, but i have a 32 bit, if maybe have some other kind of way for use or instal viber or combine with other type of communiation tools which i have already installed on computer
[17:42] <SameDay> Hi, I used shc to compile a file, and it runs without issues 'manually' , but, when running it via cron, no errors occur, but, the file does not seem to have any effect, as if it did not run at all.
[17:42] <Fatalnix> no output maybe?
[17:43] <Fatalnix> some problems don't output anything on failure.
[17:43] <Fatalnix> programs*
[17:43] <Fatalnix> what is this program?
[17:43] <SameDay> Fatalnix: a simple script to run "imapfilter" , but, it is compiled using 'sch'.
[17:43] <hotmedal> I have a bcm4313 and it stopped working when I updated to linux kernel 3.11 on 13.10, now I reinstalled bcmwl-kernel-source from apt and it worked. But after restart iwconfig shows no wireless interfaces. How do I fix this?
[17:43] <Fatalnix> Oh I see
[17:43] <SameDay> the uncomplied script will run w/o issues.
[17:44] <SameDay> sch = shc
[17:44] <oki1> ActionParnsip: thank you but  i see this inforamtion previousl, and i try to install but isnot a owrking beace i have a 32 bit but this information is for64 bit,also i download a .deb file and try to open with the wine but  ineed if i can do it from directly in ubuntu
[17:44] <wisescribe7> Hello, I have a question: I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed through Wubi. When booting Ubuntu, I get an error saying something about "Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /.  Can anyone help me out, please?
[17:44] <SameDay> in someway, cron is having issues with the compiled file, but, I'm not sure as where to look.
[17:46] <Fatalnix> I wonder if cron is configured wrong
[17:46] <Fatalnix> not cron itself
[17:46] <Fatalnix> but your cron job
[17:46] <Fatalnix> are you just using crontab?
[17:47] <awesomess3> cron is so annoying. When ever I start up my computer I always do:  `sudo service cron stop ; sudo service acron stop`
[17:47] <awesomess3> I'm 70% sure that command is right, and 18% confident in that surety.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> awesomess3: why not add it in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line and it will run as root each boot
[17:48] <SameDay> Fatalnix: yes, crontab is used, and copying and pasting the exact command from cron , on the shell itself, works fine.
[17:50] <hotmedal> I have a bcm4313 and it stopped working when I updated to linux kernel 3.11 on 13.10, now I reinstalled bcmwl-kernel-source from apt and it worked. But after restart iwconfig shows no wireless interfaces. How do I fix this?
[17:50] <i-make-robots> hi!  Where do I go to learn how to be a better admin?  I have some fairly noob questions.
[17:50] <awesomess3> i-make-robots, google?
[17:50] <i-make-robots> heh.
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> i-make-robots  let's hear it
[17:51] <awesomess3> i-make-robots, you can search books on google:   "linux admin filetype:pdf"
[17:51] <awesomess3> without the quotes
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> awesomess3  or go to a shop or library, for books
[17:52] <i-make-robots> MonkeyDust - I've never let outsiders into my server before and I'm outsourcing some dev work.  I need to allow this new guy ssh and mysql access so he can do his job and I want to jail him to the relevant databases & directories.
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> i-make-robots  doent sound like a beginner question to me
[17:52] <i-make-robots> well it's my first time doing that.
[17:52] <Fatalnix> i-make-robots: lol. jails can be broken out of so easily
[17:53] <Fatalnix> all you gotta do in most situations is put the server under enough load
[17:53] <awesomess3> Fatalnix, ....and then?
[17:53] <Fatalnix> cvs pserver is exploitable that way
[17:54] <i-make-robots> this jail is so easy to break out of ever since they installed the hole in the wall!
[17:54] <Fatalnix> awesomess3: and then the party begins! Just kidding.
[17:54] <Fatalnix> i-make-robots: LOL
[17:54] <Fatalnix> I hate that tv show
[17:55] <awesomess3> i-make-robots, I think it's pretty simple. PhpMyAdmin can give you options for building appropriate mysql users that are limited to certain databases and powers. As for ssh, I'm pretty sure sshd has jail/chroot options to put in /etc/sshd.conf or whatever.
[17:56] <awesomess3> i-make-robots, but for me, reading manuals is not easy.
[17:56] <meek_geek> a good gui app for wget ? to set proxy and all
[17:57] <bekks> meek_geek: gnome-terminal ;)
[17:57] <awesomess3> meek_geek, wget is pretty simple if you can stomach churning through the manual.
[17:57] <meek_geek> awesomess3, I know sir but I want to download using a proxy please
[17:57] <lonedog> hey slart   went to this site and  no sources http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/   why is it sohard to get the source code to these os
[17:58] <awesomess3> meek_geek, http_proxy=192.168.0.1 wget google.com
[17:58] <awesomess3> meek_geek, the command for a terminal
[17:59] <meek_geek> awesomess3, so for tor it would be
[18:00] <meek_geek> http_proxy=127.0.0.1:9150 wget hehe.com/haha.exe ?
[18:02] <awesomess3> meek_geek, I don't have the cohones to process the information for you, but this should help: http://www.madhatt.com/index.php/20-technology/431-using-wget-with-tor-for-anonymous-downloading
[18:02] <LucidGuy> Looking for a PC window/linux cloning recommendation.  Back in the day Norton Ghost was the goto solution.  I'm happy with CloneZilla but need something more professional, something with call in support
[18:04] <awesomess3> professional software support is stupid. I remember going into Fred Meyers and getting a "professional" web dev software something whatever, and I googled the name of the software and the support was barren. Absolutely terrifying.
[18:04] <qin_> LucidGuy: dd
[18:04] <arthurfiggis> LucidGuy: not trying to give a crass response at all, but i would start here...it's pretty much a list of all the popular disc cloning software available :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disk_cloning_software
[18:04] <arthurfiggis> (along with some supported features and the project's individual status)
[18:06] <arthurfiggis> qin_: not surprisingly dd is at the top of the list ;) sometimes the most obvious answer is the best one
[18:06] <LucidGuy> arthurfiggis, I'm googling like mad, simply looking for suggestions
[18:06] <murat> # ubuntu-tr
[18:06] <murat> ³ubuntu-tr
[18:06] <murat> #ubuntu-tr
[18:07] <Pici> murat: /join #ubuntu-tr
[18:07] <murat> ok
[18:07] <murat> tanks
[18:07] <qin_> how did he got qubic?
[18:08] <arthurfiggis> LucidGuy: well there's plenty of suggestions there...although personally like yourself, i'm quite happy with clonezilla...it does lack in commercial support, but part of the reason i moved away from using ghost and the like was _because_ of how poor their support was :(
[18:09] <murat> How to install cameras
[18:10] <arthurfiggis> LucidGuy: gparted also has a live CD and there's a list of file-systems that it supports here, along with what features it's capable of using with each? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gparted
[18:10] <LucidGuy> gparted.. thats a partition tool.  What does that have to do with cloneing?
[18:11] <jobarte> hi guys
[18:11] <murat> How to install cameras
[18:11] <jobarte> is possible to disable upgrade in someone packets?
[18:12] <qin_> !pinning | jobarte You ment packages?
[18:13] <arthurfiggis> LucidGuy: well from a cursory look at the link i put there, it does support cloning of individual partitions but not entire disks, so again you're probably better off with clonezilla in that case :) there isn't a lot of cross-platform, commercial disk cloning software out there really, plenty of open-source ones, so i guess it depends on which you need more...the features or commercial support
[18:14] <arthurfiggis> (commercial support might be hard to find though :( )
[18:14] <LucidGuy> arthurfiggis, I'll be cloneing critical systems, would hate to have a restore fail with nobody to get on the phone and scream at.
[18:15] <qin_> Still one day of play with dd and you would know that all other ware is obsolete in the field...
[18:15] <shahan> what's the best way to do like "power saving mode" on a laptop for 14.04?
[18:16] <qin_> LucidGuy: if it is critical system you have to have snapshots, what is hussle about?
[18:16] <stevecoh1> Help!  Have brand new Thinkpad T540P, want to have Windows not as dual boot but as a VBox guest underneath.  Not easy since T540p comes with Win 8.1 and no installation media.  Is there any hope to make this work?
[18:16] <qin_> shahan: powertop lets you save some battery..
[18:17] <dw1> shahan: sudo apt-get install indicator-cpufreq
[18:17] <Beldar> stevecoh1, Ask in ##windows, a vm is no problem.
[18:18] <stevecoh1> beldar, I want Ubuntu to be the host OS and windows the guest.  I didn't say that.
[18:18] <Beldar> stevecoh1, You want that W8.1 in a VM running in ubuntu right?
[18:18] <stevecoh1> yes
[18:19] <Beldar> stevecoh1, The windows part has nothing to do with this channel as far as how or whether legal.
[18:19] <dw1> stevecoh1: download win8.1 and install using your cd key maybe
[18:19] <Beldar> stevecoh1, I would leave it to be honest.
[18:20] <dw1> i just run xp in vm for those few apps that dont play nice with wine
[18:20] <jobarte> [qin_]: I will test here, thanks
[18:20] <stevecoh1> Yes, but see, I just paid for this windows license, and it looks like I have to throw it in the garbage with no assurance that another I'd buy would even work.
[18:20] <nezZario> stevecoh1: I tried to /msg you
[18:21] <Beldar> stevecoh1, hat license a OEM purchase correct?
[18:21] <Beldar> What*
[18:21] <arthurfiggis> stevecoh1: microsoft does offer downloadable .iso's from their own site for installation media, my PC didn't come with a disk so when i lost my win7 installation i just downloaded the usb installer and the iso from their site, used my activation key and it worked :) i'd imagine they probably do something similar with 8.1, but i don't know of any links offhand
[18:22] <shahan> anyone here have unity3d the game developing program working on 14.04?
[18:23] <arthurfiggis> stevecoh1: be warned though, between the huge amount of memory required to virtualize windows and the (odd) habit of ubuntu 14.04 killing off processes that grab too much memory, it's not a pleasant experience :(
[18:23] <stevecoh1> arthur, they don't.  You have to give them a license key, and even if you do, it has to be a non-OEM license key
[18:23] <dw1> arthurfiggis, stevecoh1: wonder if http://modern.ie are full-featured with a valid key
[18:23] <MasterOfDisaster> arthurfiggis: odd habit? i.e. OOM Killer?
[18:24] <rcollins> wondering if anyone can help out with a fuse/sshfs issue
[18:24] <rcollins> i've followed all instructions everywhere...and keep getting module not found
[18:24] <stevecoh1> Beldar, yes my 8.1 lic is OEM
[18:24] <MasterOfDisaster> rcollins: details please :-P
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> rcollins  ask your question to find out
[18:24] <arthurfiggis> MasterOfDisaster: yes, that'd be the technical name for it :P i had to stop using kubuntu 14.04 because of that very "feature," baloo would continually grab all the memory on my system, die, start up again, take up all the memory and die...ad nauseam :(
[18:25] <Beldar> stevecoh1, You really need to find out if this is even legal, call MS and or the manufacturer.
[18:25] <rcollins> heres out put from command line running modprobe fuse      root@aditi:/media/tv# modprobe fuse
[18:25] <rcollins> WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
[18:25] <rcollins> FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[18:25] <jahrichie> is there a way from the cml to display space by user?
[18:25] <Beldar> stevecoh1, I believe it is, but this is a windows issue, ubuntu is only the host.
[18:25] <arthurfiggis> stevecoh1: sorry, i missed that your license was an OEM purchase when you mentioned it...that would throw a wrench into things, i'm not even sure if microsoft permits an oem license to be used that way
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> rcollins  use !pastebin for multi-line pastes
[18:25] <awesomess3> arthurfiggis, so is kubuntu 14.04 a bad option?
[18:25] <MasterOfDisaster> arthurfiggis: I'd rather consider baloo and the other desktop indexing abominations an anti-feature, but that's me.
[18:25] <jahrichie> we have a web server with a few users that's filled, and its gunna take a while to see which is filling up
[18:26] <bekks> jahrichie: What is "which"?
[18:26] <MasterOfDisaster> jahrichie: which space? disk? memory?
[18:27] <rcollins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7406061/
[18:27] <stevecoh1> yeah, probably not.  So, instead of beating my head against the wall, if I just gave up and went to BestBuy and bought some kind of Windows non-OEM to throw into VBox, would it even work?
[18:27] <arthurfiggis> awesomess3: without wanting to start an argument about which desktop is better and whatnot...kubuntu was my favourite up until 14.04, which has essentially removed any easy point-and-click option to turn baloo off...i couldn't get it to run properly on an i5-based system with 8GB of RAM because the file indexer would repeatedly take up all 8GB and blow up
[18:27] <Pici> jahrichie: if it is limited to what directory is using up the most space in /home/ you could use something like  du --max-depth=1 | sort -n
[18:27] <Beldar> stevecoh1, windows in  vbox works fine.
[18:27] <dw1> jahrichie: du -h
[18:28] <arthurfiggis> at least when tracker-miner-fs crashes it has the decency not to try and start the whole thing over again :P
[18:28] <stevecoh1> Yeah I know.  Now I have it (XP) under Ubuntu on an old monster I'm trying to replace.  But it's so much harder now.
[18:29] <arthurfiggis> added to that the kde randr settings panel was removed from the default installation, so if you want to say, set up screen mirroring, you need to install a piece of kde that should have come with it in the first place...ah well, hopefully they'll figure it out eventually :)
[18:29] <dw1> what do you even need windows for... let it go :p
[18:29] <Beldar> stevecoh1, Besides here there is the #vbox channel if needed.
[18:29] <stevecoh1> I need Win for a few things.  Quicken, Turbo Tax, a Garmin bike computer.
[18:30] <stevecoh1> otherwise I'd gladly do without it.
[18:30] <awesomess3> let it goooooo
[18:30] <dw1> they dont work in wine?
[18:30] <stevecoh1> maybe quicken and tt do.  I doubt the garmin thing would.
[18:30] <arthurfiggis> dw1: that's probably a given, the last thing i could get to work, flawlessly, end to end in wine...was jedi academy :( and i stopped playing that years ago
[18:30] <qin_> stevecoh1: I thought that garmin have web service for all devices...
[18:31] <dw1> im going to format over my windows partition soon.. dont use it
[18:31] <arthurfiggis> (although to be fair i was trying to run games in it, not regular desktop apps, so maybe it's better for that)
[18:31] <rubatharisan> Hi is it possible to get Internet Explorer on Ubuntu?
[18:31] <nezZario> hahaha
[18:31] <Seven_Six_Two> rubatharisan, with wine
[18:31] <stevecoh1> I don't think it works on Linux.  The part where you plug your computer into the USB port is hardware dependendnt.
[18:31] <qin_> rubatharisan: yes
[18:31] <MasterOfDisaster> rcollins: does /dev/fuse exist on your host?
[18:32] <rubatharisan> Seven_Six_Two: sober
[18:32] <Beldar> rubatharisan, up top IE 8 in wine
[18:32] <stevecoh1> Is there a list of what does and doesn't work in Wine?
[18:32] <Seven_Six_Two> stevecoh1, winehq
[18:32] <rubatharisan> damn, so it's only possible with wine / virtual machine
[18:32] <rubatharisan> ok
[18:32] <qin_> stevecoh1: #winehg
[18:32] <rubatharisan> Thanks guys
[18:32] <MasterOfDisaster> rcollins: if so, all is fine. you're already set for fuse without loading kernel modules.
[18:33] <dw1> stevecoh1: sometimes different versions work better with different apps, so could install multiple versions
[18:33] <Seven_Six_Two> appdb.winehq.org
[18:33] <arthurfiggis> IE not being ported to linux is something i consider to be under bill gates' list of charitable donations to the world :P
[18:33] <rubatharisan> I should send a mail to @microsoft, and ask them why it's not possible to get IE in Linux
[18:33] <Seven_Six_Two> I recommend using playonlinux for all wine programs. it makes it easier to config each app
[18:33] <tallis> algum brasileiro?
[18:34] <dw1> Seven_Six_Two: yeah
[18:34] <qin_> rubatharisan: you can ask why it cant get online, properly
[18:35] <rubatharisan> qin_: I will ask them why sudo doesn't work in cmd.exe?
[18:36] <Seven_Six_Two> It's probably because cmd.exe is no longer a real shell.
[18:36] <rubatharisan> sorry, Seven_Six_Two - when was it a real shell? :)
[18:37] <Guest9283> hello
[18:37] <arthurfiggis> that and sudo was never available for windows to begin with, but i suppose if you want to be on the phone with them for no reason, give them a ring ;)
[18:37] <MasterOfDisaster> rubatharisan: my thoughts exactly.
[18:37] <Seven_Six_Two> rubatharisan, before xp
[18:37] <daftykins> rubatharisan: no trolling please
[18:37] <Seven_Six_Two> rubatharisan, when windows was on top of dos
[18:37] <daftykins> you guys, stop feeding the troll
[18:37] <rcollins> okay all regarding fuse on ubunt 12.04, getting this when running modprobe http://paste.ubuntu.com/7406061/ ......... tried installing using apt and ./configure and install
[18:37] <rubatharisan> sorry daftykins :)
[18:37] <MathCubes> Can anyone help me?
[18:37] <MasterOfDisaster> daftykins: yeah yeah. you're no fun :-)
[18:37] <MathCubes> How to burn a .iso to a USB device though the terminal?
[18:38] <Pessimist> !ask | MathCubes
[18:38] <Pessimist> MathCubes, dd if=/to/iso of=/to/usb bs=4M
[18:38] <qin_> MathCubes: use dd
[18:38] <majod> will there be mesa 10.2 for ubuntu?
[18:38] <daftykins> MathCubes: sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdx (where sdx = USB flash drive)
[18:38] <arthurfiggis> Pessimist: I would add ; sync to the end of that, but otherwise perfect :)
[18:38] <MasterOfDisaster> MathCubes: if it's a USB optical drive, look at wodim
[18:38] <MathCubes> Thanks
[18:39] <snow_ru> hi
[18:39] <snow_ru> chmode 777 a
[18:39] <MasterOfDisaster> MathCubes: also have a look at unetbootin, it's not CLI though.
[18:39] <snow_ru> ls -hla a > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 679M Mar 25 02:32 a
[18:40] <rubatharisan> snow_ru: what?
[18:40] <MathCubes> Unetbootin doesn't work for me. DOn't know why...
[18:40] <snow_ru> this is strange,  I believe that  777 gives everyone the permision to r, w, x
[18:40] <qin_> snow_ru: are you root?
[18:40] <benighted> can anyone here answer why installing libapache-mod-security doesn't create /etc/modsecurity directory? The apache chat sent me to the 'pkg manager' for this issue.
[18:40] <llutz> snow_ru: what filesystem is "a" on?
[18:40] <rubatharisan> snow_ru: sudo chmod 777 folder
[18:40] <snow_ru> i was root
[18:40] <snow_ru> that's why i don't understand
[18:41] <qin_> snow_ru: llutz question ^
[18:41] <MasterOfDisaster> benighted: try running dpkg-reconfigure
[18:41] <snow_ru> hmm, understand ;)
[18:41] <rubatharisan> snow_ru: what? :D
[18:42] <snow_ru> nice ;)
[18:42] <llutz> snow_ru: on what filesystem is "a"?
[18:43] <MathCubes> And that is it.... It install a bootloader onto the pandrive?
[18:43] <benighted> MasterOfDisaster: reloaded web server, still no /etc/modsecurity folder present. Installed dependencies, no errors - following http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-install-apache2-modsecurity-and-modevasive-ubuntu-1204-lts-server, also ran 'apache2ctl -M | grep --color security' which returned security2_module. All seems to be well... except I can't configure anything!
[18:43] <benighted> MasterOfDisaster: sorry, I did dpkg-reconfigure, showed webserver reloaded which means it ran successfully
[18:44] <MathCubes> How to burn a .iso to a USB device though the terminal, with grub?
[18:44] <MathCubes> All I am getting is a grub screen with no boot options
[18:45] <rcollins> can someone help with fuse/sshfs installation, getting no module found when running modprobe fuse
[18:45] <Pessimist> MathCubes, there is no point in doing that if you don't want to get multiple distros on a single usb stick
[18:46] <llutz> rcollins: grep CONFIG_FUSE /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[18:47] <fission6> would you agree with this statment, However, Linux support for exFAT is poor to nonexistent
[18:47] <llutz> rcollins: cat /etc/issue
[18:48] <llutz> rcollins: no PMs please
[18:48] <rcollins> llutz: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[18:48] <jahrichie> bekks:  which == which user
[18:48] <jahrichie> sorry
[18:49] <jahrichie> MasterOfDisaster:  which disk space
[18:49] <llutz> rcollins: uname -a
[18:50] <rcollins> llutz: Linux aditi 2.6.32-042stab085.17 #1 SMP Thu Mar 6 16:49:33 MSK 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:50] <s3ri0us> can anyone reccommend a package to help delete log files
[18:50] <bekks> jahrichie: Find out which disk space is filling up, as suggested above - and then you will find the user which is responsible for that, too.
[18:50] <llutz> rcollins: that's not a default ubuntu kernel, isn't it?
[18:51] <bekks> llutz: thats a vps kernel.
[18:51] <llutz> rcollins: lacks fuse-support, it seems
[18:51] <rcollins> llutz: it is a vps
[18:51] <rcollins> llutz: okay
[18:51] <rcollins> bekks: it is a vps
[18:52] <llutz> rcollins: ask the vps-provider about fuse
[18:52] <rcollins> llutz: opening support ticket with them now
[18:52] <rcollins> llutz: thanks for looking into it
[18:52] <Radon_3> hi everyone, I have a huge stack of TTF fonts in windows, and when I copy all of them in a folder which I named "fromwin" under /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ and after I restart the system all the characters of display even system ones (not terminal) turn into rectangles, and I have to 'rm -r fromwin' that directory so that everything returns to norma
[18:52] <Radon_3> l. how should I install these 2000 TTF files without getting rectangles instead of letters on system?
[18:52] <stevecoh1> OK, let's say that my desire to use my Windows OEM license as a Vbox guest is utopian nonsense.  Let's settle for dual boot.  Is there official doc on the right way to do dual boot Windows 8.1/Ubuntu that explains how to handle  the EUFI/secure boot issues
[18:54] <awesomess3> Radon_3, what Ubuntu are you using? Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[18:54] <Radon_3> no 12.04 LTS
[18:55] <Radon_3> do i have to install 14.04 to correct this?
[18:57] <Beldar> !uefi | stevecoh1
[18:58] <Radon_3> help me plase
[18:58] <Radon_3> *please
[18:58] <Beldar> stevecoh1, Part of the issue is that every manufacturer has made there own tweaked version of this new fast boot/uefi/gpt thang,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[18:58] <awesomess3> Radon_3,  mkdir ~/myfonts ; cd ~/myfonts/ ; sudo chown root.root *.ttf ; sudo mkfontdir ; cd .. ; fc-cache
[18:59] <awesomess3> and then pray
[19:00] <awesomess3> Don't actually try it, I just copied from a website.
[19:00] <Beldar> stevecoh1, In the thread notice the advice to clone the W8 to an external, that I would do, it is a good way of being prepared for anything happening, if you want to have W8 still if bricked.
[19:00] <Radon_3> awesomess3: ok
[19:00] <z1haze> How do I backup my server? I have activated my ftp backup server via my hosting control panel.. but theres no option to backup?
[19:00] <llutz> awesomess3: personal fonts go in ~/.fonts and for sure not root-owned
[19:01] <Radon_3> I have spend a lot of money, bandwidth, and time to get this ubuntu runing on my machine, I am not going to run anything unless I know what it does
[19:01] <llutz> Radon_3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts#Manually
[19:04] <llutz> z1haze: check providers documentation
[19:04] <z1haze> i have its very confusing and scattered about
[19:04] <h4x0rjax> I need help gaining access to protected files on my mac os X filesystem.
[19:04] <h4x0rjax> I'm currently on ubuntu
[19:05] <z1haze> the server is from OVH most of it is in another language
[19:05] <llutz> z1haze: likely not an ubuntu-issue
[19:05] <z1haze> well my server is running ubuntu
[19:06] <z1haze> how do i backup with ubuntu server?
[19:06] <llutz> z1haze: rsync/rsnapshop/tar... hundreds of ways
[19:06] <llutz> shot*
[19:07] <z1haze> well i dont really understand that stuff, i just want a simple way to backup my system, why does it have to all be complicated
[19:07] <llutz> z1haze: whats compicated with this http://help.ovh.co.uk/backupftp
[19:07] <dw1> z1haze: tar is like zip
[19:07] <k1l> !away > InFierno
[19:08] <dw1> z1haze: put lots of files in one
[19:08] <llutz> z1haze: and as it reads to me, still not an ubuntu-issue. your provider does the backup
[19:08] <InFierno> k1l its global...
[19:08] <k1l> z1haze: load the stuff that you want to backup onto that backup ftp.
[19:08] <Octavian_95> hello can someone help me set up ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a dell inspiron 1501?
[19:08] <z1haze> how do i do that though?
[19:08] <h4x0rjax> can anyone help me to access protected files from ubuntu
[19:08] <z1haze> i dont have any of this interface that s shown on that website
[19:08] <z1haze> its prolly all outdated
[19:08] <InFierno> Octavian.. Insert cd follow instructions?
[19:08] <k1l> InFierno: then make it not global? use /away instead
[19:09] <InFierno> fine bye
[19:09] <Logan_> that works too
[19:09] <k1l> z1haze: well, talk to the hoster support about how their ftp-backup-system works at all. we cant know that
[19:09] <Octavian_95> i mean it is already installed (dual boot with xp) but i can't get things to work (wifi, video driver)
[19:10] <z1haze> alright, i thought someone might know since its like the largest hosting company in the world
[19:11] <Octavian_95> so does anybody now how to set up the wifi and the video card on this laptop?
[19:13] <Octavian_95> anyone?
[19:13] <awesomess3> Octavian_95, make sure the wifi is enabled:  Fn+F2 (or something, it should show a tower on the key on the laptop's keyboard)
[19:14] <awesomess3> Octavian_95, do you know what type of video card it is? Intel HD? nVidia? ATI?
[19:15] <Octavian_95> there is a problem with the driver so fn-f2 doesn't work
[19:15] <Octavian_95> video is a ATI Mobility Radeon 1150
[19:15] <Octavian_95> 256 MB i think
[19:15] <evil_andy> I've got a user that's set up using likewise as part of a domain, and in 12.04 it shows up in the User Accounts tool just fine, but in 14.04, it does not.
[19:16] <evil_andy> What I need is a way to set a user account as an administrative account so that when things need an administrator password, they will just ask for my password instead of the default user that was set up during install
[19:16] <evil_andy> so, is there a CLI tool I can use to set a user account as an administrative account in Unity?
[19:17] <k1l> evil_andy: put them into the sudo group. then they can do adminthings with their own password using sudo
[19:18] <evil_andy> k1l, they can already use sudo because the domain group is in the sudoers file, the issue is that unity keeps asking for the 'localadmin' password (which they don't have)
[19:19] <evil_andy> so unity doesn't check sudoers, but somewhere else to determine if an account is an administrative account. I want to be able to modify that without using the User Accounts tool, because it doesn't pick up non-local accounts
[19:21] <Octavian_95> no solution for my problem?
[19:22] <Reboot_74> has anyone here successfully installed ubuntu onto samsung  ativ 500t smart pc?
[19:22] <Squirrley> ok call me retarded but i cant get my ubuntu 14 to play dvd/ blu ray. ive tried a few terminal installations and now it treats everything like a bdmv and wont play. any thoughts?
[19:24] <awesomess3> Squirrley, sudo apt-get install vlc ; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[19:25] <awesomess3> - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:26] <Octavian_95> awesomess3, any ideea about my wifi driver issue?
[19:26] <Squirrley> @awesomess3, cheers
[19:27] <nikolam> does Ubuntu takes care of not using too much disk space for BTRFS snapshots during upgrades, after some time during LTS lifetime?
[19:30] <Octavian_95> please i really need to set up the driver for my wifi cause being tied with the ethernet cable is really frustrating :(
[19:32] <awesomess3> Octavian_95, I've tried researching wifi issues....but I failed ;(  what does `lspci` say?  put the output on: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:34] <Octavian_95> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7406410/
[19:34] <Octavian_95> thats the output of the lspci cmd
[19:34] <llutz> Octavian_95: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:35] <Octavian_95> should i mention that i am a new to ubuntu?
[19:36] <llutz> Octavian_95: reading is not a linux-user-only skill :)
[19:36] <arthurfiggis> Octavian_95: oh, that page gives pretty clear/easy-to-process instructions on how to install broadcom drivers for pretty much any ones that are available, including for 12.04 of course :) i'd say it wouldn't be too hard
[19:36] <alaing> from the command line how do I remove a directory that has content in it
[19:36] <llutz> alaing: rm -r /path/dir
[19:36] <arthurfiggis> alaing: if you're sure you want everything in it gone, rm -rf directory/ would work
[19:37] <arthurfiggis> or you could use llutz' suggestion, since that doesn't include the reckless -f i stuck on at the end :P
[19:37] <arthurfiggis> (-rf is for when you're really, _really_ sure)
[19:37] <alaing> I trie rm -rf * which seems to have done the job except its left two git files in there
[19:39] <alaing> -rw-rw-r--+  1 thelaings thelaings  599 Jan 23 23:02 .gitattributes
[19:39] <alaing> -rw-rw-r--+  1 thelaings thelaings  798 Jan 23 23:02 .gitignore
[19:39] <gui_> hello i search a informations please
[19:39] <Octavian_95> llutz, i meant that i dont know to do certain things in linux . i used ubuntu in the past for wifi cracking with reaver :) i just know how to open a terminal and stuff like this
[19:40] <Octavian_95> sorry for slow response but for some reason firefox is lagging a little
[19:41] <llutz> Octavian_95: check the site i linked, read. if you encounter problems, ask
[19:41] <Octavian_95> should i post the results of the lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 command?
[19:42] <alaing> llutz arthurfiggis any ideas?
[19:42] <llutz> alaing: rm .git*
[19:42] <MasterOfDisaster> gui_: just ask your question
[19:43] <arthurfiggis> alaing: looks like i was beaten to the punch again :) "llutz: rm .git*" that should get rid of the "hidden" files hanging around
[19:43] <alaing> llutz: thanks, why didn't it delete the git files with the rm -rf *?
[19:43] <llutz> Octavian_95: it will say some "... Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 ..." i'd guess. please read the full site first, then try to follow the steps
[19:43] <alaing> arthurfiggis: :-) thank
[19:43] <nova__> I am in love with a lesbian
[19:44] <nova__> what should I do?
[19:44] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: next time, delete the parent directory.
[19:44] <k1l> nova__: this is not the appropriate channel for that talks
[19:44] <alaing> so do rm -rf parentDir/
[19:44] <arthurfiggis> MasterOfDisaster: yeah, usually when i rm -rf a directory, rather than * inside the directory, it gets everything...that might be the problem
[19:44] <nova__> alaing: do not use rm command
[19:44] <alaing> rmdir?
[19:44] <nova__> alaing: it is too dangerous
[19:45] <alaing> nova__: are you sure ;-)
[19:45] <llutz> alaing: * doesn't match leading dot .(hidden)
[19:45] <nova__> alaing: I typed rm /home/backup * instead of /home/backup
[19:45] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: rm -r, as was explained earlier to you (and I didn't read :-( )
[19:45] <nova__> someone should make a wrapper for rm
[19:46] <llutz> nova__: use rm -i
[19:46] <alaing> thanks guys.
[19:46] <nova__> alaing: yes I am
[19:46] <Octavian_95> llutz: so i figured out that my wifi card is BCM4311 [14e4:432b] what now?
[19:46] <llutz> Octavian_95: i say it one more time: please read the full site first, then try to follow the steps
[19:46] <nova__> where is the most approiate place to talk about lvoe?
[19:47] <nova__> love?*
[19:47] <llutz> pub
[19:47] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: some distros include "alias rm='rm -i'" in .bashrc to protect users.
[19:47] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: doesn't help when adding '-f' though.
[19:47] <k1l> nova__: #defocus
[19:48] <alaing> MasterOfDisaster: I'm sing ubuntu servcer edition
[19:48] <alaing> using
[19:49] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: just beware of adding '-f'.
[19:50] <alaing> thanks I've made a note. would you be able to recommend a good resource ie like a cookbook for commandline
[19:50] <alaing> for quick ref
[19:51] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: well, 'man' is what most use to look up commands
[19:51] <xyzzymaze> Greetings all ... I'm sure this has been asked/answered , but I've yet to find out why Trusty takes *forever* to allow you to type in the password box after boot ...
[19:51] <arthurfiggis> alaing: well, in the specific case of bash, typing help at the prompt will give you a whole bunch of common console commands...then man commandname will give you a description :)
[19:51] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: 'apropos foo' or 'man -f foo' searches for foo in them.
[19:51] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: in the man pages, as they're called.
[19:52] <alaing> thanks for that much appreciate :-)
[19:52] <nova__> alaing: type man man if you want to know how to use man
[19:52] <alaing> I didn't know men had manuals
[19:52] <alaing> :-P
[19:53] <alaing> man lady
[19:53] <alaing> no such command exists
[19:53] <arthurfiggis> alaing: the real response is somehow even better than that: "No manual entry for lady"
[19:53] <nova__> alaing: you need to install groff and manpages packages
[19:53] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: that should get you started: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[19:54] <nova__> I wish there were a manual page for sex too
[19:54] <arthurfiggis> MasterOfDisaster: hmm...i know that wasn't meant for me but i hope you don't mind me using it anyway ;) quite handy
[19:55] <k1l> nova__: please drop that offtopic. thanks
[19:55] <MasterOfDisaster> arthurfiggis: that's IT for you. No matter how long you're in it, you learn new stuff all the time.
[19:56] <nova__> How can I turn off these joined/left messages
[19:57] <gui_> hello everybody
[19:57] <SameDay> nova__: are you using chatzilla to connect ?
[19:57] <Octavian_95> ok so i read the whole page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx) but i dont understand what to do
[19:57] <Octavian_95> :(
[19:57] <gui_> i search a information please
[19:58] <MasterOfDisaster> gui_: just ask
[19:58] <Seppoh> hi
[19:59] <Octavian_95> anyone else that can help me set up my BCM4311 based wifi card in ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[20:00] <Kins> I'm having trouble getting Seahorse to work correctly in 14.04. When I go to import an SSH private key, it imports it to "Gnome2 Key Storage" and won't use it for ssh. Anyone know a solution?
[20:00] <alaing> i would like to copy two directories (with all their sub directories and files etc), both directories start with "cache" and I want to copy them to another directory would this command do it for me: cp -R cache*/ /var/www/gallery/
[20:02] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: rather use cp -a or rsync -a. Keeps file permissions.
[20:02] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: cp -a implies -R
[20:03] <MasterOfDisaster> Octavian_95: what have you tried? where are you stuck?
[20:03] <alaing> not to concerned about permissions
[20:03] <alaing> so cp -a cache*/ /var/www/gallery/
[20:03] <Seppoh> anybody knows how to help me, if start up my laptop it says "Sorry, ubuntu 14,04 has experienced an internal error" it does say it to when i try to go to update
[20:03] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: ok. just a thing to keep in mind.
[20:04] <Octavian_95> Well i think i need a driver for the card. I never installed a driver in linux and don't know how to do it
[20:04] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: your command looks good, the trailing slashes shouldn't be necessary.
[20:05] <MasterOfDisaster> Octavian_95: well, the guide says to identify your card first. Did you do that?
[20:06] <alaing> I blame windows for my poor cmdline skills
[20:06] <alaing> I used to know loads fo DOS commands
[20:06] <nikolam> alaing, I blame Ubuntu for my low Linux skills
[20:06] <nikolam> same thing
[20:06] <alaing> when I was about 7/8 yrs old. my mom bought us a 80286
[20:07] <Octavian_95> i don't think there is someone here more n00bish at ubuntu or linux than me :)
[20:07] <alaing> then updated to windows 3.1 and then it was all down hill
[20:07] <IamSad> How do you pronounciate ubuntu?
[20:08] <alaing> O-Bun-two
[20:08] <IamSad> alaing: thank you that is what I needed
[20:08] <alaing> trust me I'm originally from South Africa.....
[20:09] <nikolam> it is more important what Ubuntu means. And it is not one company to rule it all. So, contribute.
[20:09] <alaing> IamSad: its a zulu word. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)
[20:10] <IamSad> ubuntu replaces my configuration files
[20:10] <IamSad> with auto-generated ones
[20:10] <alaing> and Mark shuttlworth came from RA
[20:10] <alaing> SA
[20:10] <bekks> alaing: So wikipedia is lying? ;) "Ubuntu (/ʊˈbʊntuː/ uu-BUUN-too)[7][8] "
[20:10] <IamSad> Can I use OpenRC with ubuntu?
[20:10] <bekks> IamSad: No.
[20:10] <alaing> bekks: lol - I was being lazy
[20:11] <arthurfiggis> alaing: speaking of prominent people from south africa on ubuntu... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HED4h00xPPA <-- nelson mandela, i'd accept his pronounciation :)
[20:11] <alaing> I actually met Mark Shuttleworth while I was at school
[20:11] <arthurfiggis> (that video used to be included with a new ubuntu installation if i remember right)
[20:11] <IamSad> bekks: why can't I?
[20:12] <k1l> hey guys, can we focus on technical support in here? we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the talks
[20:12] <alaing> he came and did a talk about how he visualised things  etc
[20:12] <bekks> IamSad: Because openrc is not available or ported to Ubuntu until now. It is designed to work with Gentoo.
[20:12] <edoceo> I'm on Precise and want to downgrade my Gluster from 3.4.3 (latest) to 3.4.2 (one previous)
[20:12] <alaing> k11 ok
[20:12] <IamSad> bekks: I have heard that it's cross platform and ported to many *nix platforms even BSD
[20:12] <edoceo> I have the 3.4.2 packages installed on other Precise systems, how to make `apt-get` use that specific version?
[20:13] <bekks> IamSad: Linux is no "*NIX" platform. ;)
[20:13] <bekks> IamSad: And it isnt ported to Ubuntu yet.
[20:13] <IamSad> bekks: systemd isn't ported either
[20:13] <bekks> IamSad: systemd actually is available for almost all linux distributions - including Ubuntu.
[20:14] <edoceo> http://ewontfix.com/14/
[20:14] <IamSad> bekks: I stick with System V init system
[20:14] <bekks> IamSad: Then you arent using Ubuntu.
[20:15] <anonymous> hey
[20:15] <bekks> IamSad: Ubuntu uses upstart for a pretty long time now.
[20:15] <anonymous> wtf
[20:15] <babyswizz> Is there any way to check what drivers are loaded on ubuntu 13.04
[20:15] <IamSad> bekks: babyswizz: type lsmod
[20:15] <anonymous> hey
[20:15] <bekks> !raring | babyswizz
[20:16] <bekks> babyswizz: you should upgrade immediately.
[20:16] <anonymous> how i can learn all about linux
[20:16] <anonymous> ?
[20:16] <babyswizz> ubottu: upgrading right now
[20:16] <bekks> anonymous: By learning all you life until you are an old man.
[20:16] <k1l> anonymous: start using it and read the documentations
[20:17] <anonymous> where is documentation
[20:17] <anonymous> pls help
[20:17] <alaing> any ideas why I'm getting funny characters in my error msg chmod: cannot access â*â: No such file or directory
[20:18] <IamSad> alaing: where is this output from? did you run a script?
[20:18] <k1l> alaing: encoding errors
[20:19] <Bashing-om> bekks: -> anonymous // Hey I am an "old man" and I am still learning ! -- even after all this time .
[20:19] <alaing> no I'm running the command from putty
[20:19] <k1l> alaing: there you go. utf-8 vs somewhat else
[20:19] <soee> someone have lags when using second monitor connected through hdmi (laptop) and some other slot on the other side (not sure how it is called) ?
[20:20] <MasterOfDisaster> alaing: yeah, the terminal emulator (i.e. putty) has to support the character encoding the server sends in. as k1l suggested, you likely need to select Unicode in its settings.
[20:21] <aarobc> if kill -9 doesn't work, are there more extreme measures that can be taken?
[20:21] <IamSad> soee: this is normal you can try to switch the unused display --off
[20:21] <IamSad> aarobc: even if you manage to kill a process with kill -9, you must clean up all the garbage left from the process
[20:22] <IamSad> aarobs: so It is better to wait until it shuts itself down
[20:22] <aarobc> It's definitely not going anywhere
[20:22] <IamSad> aarobs: another way to kill the process is to kill one of it's parent processes
[20:23] <aarobc> I did lsusb and it's just hanging
[20:23] <babyswizz> anonymous: start from here http://tille.garrels.be/training/tldp/index.html
[20:23] <IamSad> aarobc: Ctrl+C
[20:23] <IamSad> aarobc: try this
[20:23] <aarobc> IamSad: don't patronize me
[20:24] <IamSad> what does patronize mean? aarobc
[20:24] <IamSad> I was trying to help (aarobc)
[20:24] <aarobc> ah, I thought you were insinuating I was stupid.
[20:24] <aarobc> anyaway, yes, of course I tried control+c
[20:25] <IamSad> aarobc: pstree -p
[20:25] <aarobc> IamSad: that is very neat
[20:26] <Jordan_U> aarobc: https://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg199269.html
[20:27] <IamSad> I hate computers
[20:27] <babyswizz> does the /proc directory hold any info about the system drivers and what file exactly holds such info?
[20:27] <When> could someone direct me to some documentation as how I would configure a kubuntu workstation to authenticate users either local account or with active directory?
[20:27] <Jordan_U> babyswizz: What information are you looking for, and why?
[20:27] <IamSad> babyswizz /dev holds all the info about devices
[20:27] <When> authenticate to sign in
[20:27] <When> sign into computer
[20:28] <When> lol
[20:28] <aarobc> Anyway, the underlying problem is I believe libUSB is highjacking something,
[20:28] <IamSad> aarobc: fuser -k path_to_usb_device
[20:29] <aarobc> IamSad: indeed, but the irony is I can't do lsusb because that process will hang
[20:31] <IamSad> aarobc: have you tried updating usbutils package?
[20:32] <IamSad> aarobc:
[20:32] <niargh> 14.04 GUI is hung _again_. anybody wanna help me figure out a fix - short or sudo reboot -
[20:32] <Juanber> heyyy
[20:32] <niargh> I can ssh from other computer
[20:32] <Juanber> I love c++
[20:33] <Juanber> ajajajaajjajjaa
[20:33] <aarobc> okay this is interesting. when I go into alt+ctrl+f2 I get an output hub_port status failed -110
[20:34] <Juanber> grand theft auto V Used Java and c++ yeahhh
[20:34] <aarobc> And this started happening right after the latest update...
[20:34] <k1l> !ot | Juanber
[20:34] <Juanber> Ahh ok
[20:34] <Juanber> sorry
[20:35] <aarobc> I just killed x but maybe I need to try rebooting
[20:35] <niargh> 14.04 GUI hanging - have ssh access from other computer - any help?
[20:36] <mmazing> i'm using 14.04 unity, and would like to have some sort of panel icon or list or something that i can add custom commands to click a menu and execute in terminal, anyone know anything like that?
[20:36] <spudnica> Hi! I try to setup USB sound card. When I enter alsamixer and change soundcard for usb there is : This device does not have any control
[20:37] <aarobc> rebooted, not having the problem yet...
[20:38] <Robbie> someone knows if the ubuntu-restricted-extras are installed automatically in the 14:04 lts?
[20:38] <dekatch> hi. can i install ubuntu on a gpt hdd?
[20:38] <bekks> dekatch: Sure.
[20:39] <xangua> dekatch: of course they are not
[20:39] <BradPJ> Robbie: No they are not, easy enough to install however, with a working internet connection.
[20:39] <dekatch> bekks thank you. so no additional formating and reconverting :)
[20:39] <bekks> dekatch: Nope.
[20:39] <dekatch> oki :)
[20:39] <dekatch> brb
[20:39] <xangua> Robbie: of course they are not
[20:40] <niargh> zeitsofa: hung GUI want to see the result of  ps aux ?
[20:41] <Robbie> BradPJ, I ve tryied to install it but it is trying to install a strange file.. installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts someone knows what the hell is?
[20:42] <BradPJ> Robbie: They are the Microsoft fonts for maximum compatibility with files. How are you installing them?
[20:43] <bix_nood> Hey, hey hey i have an important question.
[20:43] <Bashing-om> Robbie: Microsoft TrueType = NonFree = a uela agreement that you must sign. space/tab to move about and highligh the accept, enter to accept.
[20:43] <Robbie> seems that it has been installed
[20:43] <bix_nood> Currently running Debian Stable XFCE on my laptop, considering switching to Xubuntu 14.10 LTS because good the antiquity of Debian Stable drives me crazy.
[20:44] <bix_nood> Will it fuck up my grub?
[20:44] <Robbie> anyway i don't need this extras
[20:44] <bix_nood> I have Win8 on dualboot and i'd like to keep it there.
[20:44] <k1l> bix_nood: the ubuntu grub will notice the win8 and set it to its list
[20:44] <BradPJ> bix_nood : Ubuntu will detect other OS's on install and replace the current GRUB with it's own one.
[20:45] <bix_nood> Thanks, that's all i wanted to hear.
[20:45] <bix_nood> Of course i can keep my /home directory?
[20:45] <EpicCyndaquil> I remember when Ubuntu didn't do that, BradPJ. A lot more fun installing multiple operating systems :)
[20:45] <bix_nood> I don't have much experiencie with distrohoppinh, never had to.
[20:45] <bekks> bix_nood: that might mess up configurations.
[20:46] <EpicCyndaquil> bix_nood: I'd recommend making a backup and restoring as necessary.
[20:46] <k1l> bix_nood: should work. but that depends on the specific programs which might have changed in newer version
[20:46] <bix_nood> Well i have lots off big files out there, moving everything to my NAS would take ages.
[20:46] <bix_nood> Should i remove my /.local?
[20:47] <z1haze> how do i create a shortcut folder in my home directory that goes to another users directory
[20:47] <BradPJ> EpicCyndaquil: It is a pain that it does, I find it easier to to install grub myself since I am dual-booting multiple Linux OS's. Saying that I've used Ubuntu since 9.10 and can't remember it not ever doing it.
[20:47] <z1haze> in ftp it looks likea fodler with a little arrow
[20:47] <EpicCyndaquil> I think I used an 8.* that didn't, BradPJ. Don't quote me on that one though :)
[20:48] <EpicCyndaquil> bix_nood: Is your home dir a separate partition?
[20:49] <EpicCyndaquil> z1haze: you might want a symlink
[20:49] <bix_nood> EpicCyndaquil: Not quite sure about that.
[20:49] <z1haze> how do i do that epicCyndaquil?
[20:49] <bix_nood> But i've reinstalled debian many times (happened to fuck up my system quite a lot)
[20:50] <Jordan_U> bix_nood: Please watch your language.
[20:50] <bix_nood> And never had issues. Just configured the partitioner to keep /home and format everything else, set up boot to "/" and shit.
[20:50] <bix_nood> Kay kay.
[20:50] <bix_nood> If it's a problem, then i won't swear. Sorry.
[20:50] <EpicCyndaquil> bix_nood: you're treading into more advanced territory, you'll likely want to make your home dir a partition of its own in the future, and then simply backup and erase the dotfiles and other config from your home dir
[20:51] <bix_nood> Well i should burn an iso to usb and check it by myself, i can always undo any operations in the partitioner before formatting right?
[20:52] <BradPJ> bix_nood: You can look at your current partition layout in Debian by typing 'lsblk' in a terminal.
[20:53] <bix_nood> Hell i forgot i'm on live usb.
[20:53] <bix_nood> Brb
[20:54] <z1haze> is it possible to add my user account to another's group so i can access his files as well?
[20:56] <bix_nood> BradPJ: kk, i'm back.
[20:56] <EpicCyndaquil> z1haze: yes. Google it, there's about 5 different utilities to modify permissions, one of them adds a user to a group, iirc
[20:56] <bix_nood> BradPJ: Well, lsblk says my sda5 is "/", sda6 is SWAP and sda7 is /home.
[20:56] <z1haze> sudo usermod -a -G group username right?
[20:56] <bix_nood> BradPJ: I guess it's okay.
[20:56] <EpicCyndaquil> that sounds right, z1haze
[20:56] <z1haze> ok awesome
[20:57] <BradPJ> bix_nood: Yeah that means that you have a seperate partition for /home. You can keep this when installing Ubuntu.
[20:57] <EpicCyndaquil> bix_nood: As long as you're very careful while installing, you should be able to preserve that home dir
[20:57] <z1haze> ok im confused then: ive added a new user, and by default the group they belong to is their name right? like john:john ?
[20:58] <z1haze> so I added my main user to the group john, but I still am not allowed to download files into his directory
[20:58] <bix_nood> EpicCyndaquil: So just remove .local and i'm ready to go?
[20:59] <EpicCyndaquil> bix_nood: it's more complicated than that. Check ALL of the files in ~ and make sure none of them are OS specific
[20:59] <EpicCyndaquil> anything application specific should be fine, like .vimrc
[20:59] <guest12141> hi, i am about to install ubuntu. i am on a desktop version live boot. i have windows preinstalled and i am in the manual setup process. its been a while since my last linux installation and i just need to recheck the partition setups.....
[20:59] <EpicCyndaquil> check .bashrc and such for anything unique though
[20:59] <guest12141> would someone help me setup the partitions?? i am alreadz in ubuntu manual setup screen
[21:00] <zeitsofa> bix_nood: I think the best way to save your files is, move /home/yourusername to /home/yourusername.old bevor during the install. After install move the files you need back to /home/yourusername
[21:00] <bix_nood> zeitsofa: and that's a damn good advice
[21:00] <EpicCyndaquil> zeitsofa's suggestion is probably best, bix_nood
[21:00] <bix_nood> Thanks guys, torrenting xubuntu.
[21:01] <bix_nood> Does it take long to install via WLAN?
[21:01] <bix_nood> it would be nice to get it done before midnight.
[21:01] <guest12141> bix_nood: wlan is as good as LAN...
[21:01] <guest12141> depends on your internet connection.
[21:02] <bix_nood> Well my internet connection is 60/20 but my wireless card kinda cuts it down.
[21:02] <bix_nood> Nevermind, thanks for the advice, gotta go.
[21:02] <guest12141> 60\20?
[21:02] <BradPJ> He meant 60 down, 20 up.
[21:02] <EpicCyndaquil> guest12141: What partition help do you need, specifically?
[21:02] <guest12141> ah ye i see
[21:03] <guest12141> but most wlan connection are better than 54 megabits these daus
[21:03] <guest12141> EpicCyndaquil: thank you. ubuntu is asking for device for boot loader install
[21:04] <guest12141> EpicCyndaquil: does it ask me for the root directory later on????
[21:04] <EpicCyndaquil> guest12141: that's where you specify the hard drive you plan to boot to
[21:04] <guest12141> or is that the only [path i specifiy
[21:04] <EpicCyndaquil> anyway, I have to go, someone else will help you out guest12141
[21:04] <guest12141> EpicCyndaquil: i thought this is where i want to install bootloader
[21:05] <BradPJ> guest12141: Genereally you want to use the hard drive you are installing too. i.e. sda or sdb. Without the partition number.
[21:05] <guest12141> i am about to chooe a 4GB dev&sda6
[21:05] <BradPJ> guest12141 Thats for the bootloader.
[21:05] <guest12141> BradPJ: . i wont do sda... i have windows preinstalled. i am about to install EaszBCD
[21:05] <guest12141> so dev sda6 is good to me
[21:05] <BradPJ> guest12141: /dev/sda6 for what exactly?
[21:06] <guest12141> BradPJ: for the bootloader. just.
[21:06] <guest12141> 4GB is to much i know``
[21:06] <gdfsjsdfj> why doesnt freenode allow me to connect through my irc client?
[21:06] <gdfsjsdfj> why doesnt freenode allow me to connect through my irc client?
[21:06] <guest12141> but thats not my concern. i wonder if ubunutu asks me for root and home after BradPJ
[21:07] <BradPJ> guest12141: I can't remember the install proccess so can't say in what order everything occurs.
[21:07] <alexandre> Wesh ya pas d'la gonz ?
[21:07] <guest12141> BradPJ: i have to click "install now" thats why i am actually concerned about
[21:08] <BradPJ> guest12141: I wouldn't click it unless you know what you have done to your partitons.
[21:08] <alexandre> Bryan is in the kitchen
[21:08] <guest12141> BradPJ:  but it actually just asks for "device for bootloader installation"
[21:08] <guest12141> yep
[21:08] <guest12141> i make the partition 20GB and if it asks me for another partition  i jump back and decrease the size
[21:08] <guest12141> best solution i guess
[21:08] <Voyage> are these changing results of nmap so rapidly, a distribution bug on my side?  http://pastie.org/9146948
[21:09] <zeitsofa> guest12141: u want to install grub normally to first disk. /dev/sda may the right on I think
[21:09] <BradPJ> guest12141: I can't really help any further. All I suggest is make sure you know what you are doing with the partitions, especially since you are trying to retain Windows.
[21:09] <zeitsofa> right one i mean
[21:10] <guest12141> zeitsofa: i know. usually. but i prefer to use EasyBCD . have windows linux dual boot later on
[21:10] <guest12141> and i wont use grub as bootloader
[21:11] <BradPJ> Yeah you normally want to install grub to the disk you have installed to. You install to a partition if you are chainloading as it seems guest12141 is doing.
[21:11] <k1l> dualboot is easy with grub
[21:12] <guest12141> k1l: i dislike the grub layouyt.. windows bootloader just is as my bios looks like... grub is special :p
[21:12] <mgolisch_> Voyage: this your server?
[21:13] <guest12141> ah, there you go. ubuntu doesnt install. i have to define root partition. well done
[21:13] <mgolisch_> Voyage: does it realy have that many open ports?
[21:13] <bng> hi all, is it on purpose that in 14.04 in Nautilus the menu button from upper right corner disappeared?
[21:13] <guest12141> 400MB for bootloader should be enough ???
[21:14] <zeitsofa> guest12141: for using EasyBCD u need chainloading. So best practice is the way BradPJ was telling u. U have to write grub into the MBR of the partition ubuntu was installed.
[21:14] <guest12141> zeitsofa: no. it will work
[21:14] <Voyage> mgolisch_, .. dont know. my thumb imp machine
[21:14] <bng> also, is it just me, or does CTRL-A really do nothing in Nautilus in 14.04
[21:14] <bekks> guest12141: the bootloader takes about 5M. The kernel(s) take much more space.
[21:14] <guest12141> had it done once zeitsofa
[21:15] <darkseid> Greetings peels..
[21:15] <guest12141> bekks: what would you recommend bekks ?
[21:15] <bekks> guest12141: 512M for /boot
[21:15] <darkseid> Does UP Clock run in KDE anyway?
[21:15] <guest12141> oki...
[21:16] <Promit> i need help with a ubuntu that hangs on boot
[21:16] <Jordan_U> guest12141: I would recommend not using a separate /boot/ at all.
[21:16] <Promit> in recovery mode, i can fire up the root shell
[21:16] <Promit> any other choice hangs
[21:17] <guest12141> becks. whats the right option for the bootloader partition>??? "efi boot partition"???? is it that?
[21:17] <bekks> !uefi | guest12141
[21:18] <ln_> do I need to install something inside my vm guest to use QXL Video + Spice VD, I want to set my resolution to 1366x768 but its not available (debian testing gnome3 guest)
[21:21] <skinux> Anyone know if something like the following has ever been considered: Web-based interactive troubleshooting tool/app, kind of a mix of survey questions (to collect info necessary for assisting) and instructions of how to do various tasks throughout troubleshooting?
[21:22] <azathoth99> hi gents
[21:22] <ferret_commander> anyone here using iSCSI?
[21:23] <ln_> join #kvm
[21:33] <ferret_commander> wow admin market is tight
[21:33] <ferret_commander> cheaper offers now
[21:33] <ferret_commander> I fail to see why more name based vhosts are used instead of kvm
[21:33] <ferret_commander> weak
[21:34] <m1chael> i just upgraded to 14.04 LTS from 13.10(?) ... everything seems OK, although when i close my laptop lid, the laptop never wakes up.. it sounds like things spin "on", but the screen stays black... if i just walk away from the laptop- and the screen goes black- it wakes up fine.... any ideas on this?
[21:35] <Meepers> hey guys i need some help im trying out xubuntu remix but i even had this problem in xubuntu when i tried it. where is the additional drivers?
[21:35] <Meepers> i can't get my wireless working :I
[21:35] <holstein> !wifi | Meepers
[21:36] <Meepers> but where is the device manager
[21:37] <holstein> Meepers: the link i gave explains how to find your chipset, and potentially provide support for your hardware.. did you refer to it?
[21:37] <Meepers> Oh ok il do it now
[21:40] <xangua> I have the indicator printer service running, but I don't see the indicator on my panel; what could be wrong? How can I manually open the printer window?
[21:45] <Shelly_> help? i just did a dist_update and volume controls on my multimedia kbd stopped (12.04). Any ideas?
[21:46] <holstein> Shelly_: dist-upgrade? or you were running 13.10 and upgrade to 14.04? or what exactly?
[21:47] <Shelly_> maybe it was dist-update (it was last week), it was 12.04 to 12.04
[21:47] <holstein> Shelly_: 12.04 to 14.04?
[21:47] <skinux> To anyone who tried to help solve my problem with desktop background/icons/right-click, it has now been resolved. A forum responder provided instruction to solve the issue using dconf-editor.
[21:48] <holstein> Shelly_: so, last week, you broke your keyboard commands doing "something" of an update?
[21:48] <Shelly_> holstein: no , it was just updating packages, in same 12.04, yes :)
[21:50] <Anonymous> Hello Anons
[21:50] <Gandi> aye!
[21:50] <holstein> Shelly_: so, you are in 12.04.. please open a terminal and run " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share any errors.. if none, reboot and test
[21:50] <Shelly_> holstein: i want to stay on 12.04
[21:52] <Anonymous> Hello
[21:53] <Anonymous> Hello
[21:54] <holstein> Shelly_: sure.. that command doesnt move you from 12.04
[21:54] <Kawaiola> Okay so I managed to make the my IP address static, however I can't reach the outside world any ideas of what I did wrong?
[21:55] <holstein> Shelly_: that just ensures you do have all updates, and allows the system to kick out error messages that can help a volunteer determine if you have a system error
[21:55] <Phoenixz> So now that I have 14.04, every so often my wifi suddenly disconnects and won't reconnect anymore, unless I reboot. I found that if I remove the wifi driver  rmmod rtl8192se then modprobe rtl8192se all works fine again. Is this a known bug?
[21:56] <holstein> Phoenixz: could be.. did you find a bug? are you up to date with upgrades?
[21:56] <carl05> hi
[21:56] <Phoenixz> umm, upgraded just a few days ago.. Mayhaps a fix was added in the last few days?
[21:59] <Shelly_> holstein: looks like it's only updating SSL stuff...
[22:00] <bix_nood> just came to say thanks, everything worked fine.
[22:02] <Shelly_> holstein: looks like it completed, u think reboot is warranted? http://pastebin.com/htN3vkuq
[22:03] <ferret_commander> reboot everything!!
[22:04] <ferret_commander> apt-get update -y && apt-get upgrade -y
[22:04] <ferret_commander> reboot!
[22:04] <viper474> Bashing-om: bro, sup? seen klutz?
[22:05] <viper474> ferret_: you mean: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo shutdown -r now
[22:06] <Bashing-om> viper474: , yeah, I been check'n. nada yet .. no news is good news (??) .. good to read ya !
[22:06] <viper474> ferret_commander: sorry, meant previous to you
[22:06] <chaotix> hi.  i am flashing a router with dd-wrt, and one of the steps to the process, as shown here:http://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys_WRT54G_v5.0_%26_5.1_%26_6.0 , is to "Set a static IP on your computer to 192.168.1.7. Subnet mask should be 255.255.255.0".  i know that i have to "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces", but i do not know what the text of interfaces should look like.,..  i just want to make sure that i do this properly..
[22:06] <chaotix> thanks in advance
[22:06] <Shelly_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:06] <ferret_> ferret_commander: You're not the boss of me. :|
[22:08] <Shelly_> i can't reboot right now, but i think since it only did SSL upgrades, audio wouldn't be affected?
[22:09] <Shelly_> audio, meaning multimedia controls
[22:12] <viper474> chaotix: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/ right after defining physical interfaces title
[22:13] <viper474> chaotix: change address to 192.168.1.7 and gateway to whatever the router uses
[22:13] <daftykins> chaotix: there is absolutely no reason to permanently configure a static IP
[22:13] <daftykins> a gateway isn't needed if you're just flashing a router
[22:14] <Jordan_U> chaotix: Is the computer you're configuring a Desktop (with a GUI) or a server (without a GUI)?
[22:14] <viper474> daftykins: set him straight bro, cuz I dunno what's up. I'm just supplying some info =)
[22:15] <daftykins> viper474: np :)
[22:16] <daftykins> chaotix: are you alive? :)
[22:17] <SJr> How do I change the value of /proc/sys/kernel/core_uses_pid
[22:17] <chaotix> sorry, daftykins and Jordan_U
[22:17] <chaotix> thanks for the help
[22:18] <chaotix> it is a desktop...
[22:18] <viper474> chaotix: you're going to have a fun time trying to get step 8 of that guide working
[22:18] <daftykins> chaotix: so if you're just flashing the router, just run "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.7 netmask 255.255.255.0" you'll lose internet connectivity but flash the router then, then just reboot to get a proper IP from DHCP again as you normally would
[22:18] <chaotix> aw mannnn
[22:18] <chaotix> ok, cool
[22:18] <chaotix> thanks, daftykins
[22:18] <daftykins> viper474: haha a fair point
[22:19] <chaotix> someone else just told me i should use open wrt instead
[22:19] <chaotix> does anyone here have any experience with either of these, or any of the alternatives?
[22:19] <SJr> I have experience with dd-wrt  and openwrt
[22:19] <chaotix> i am just looking to use this router as a wifi adapter for a computer
[22:19] <daftykins> ^ i run dd-wrt on something
[22:20] <chaotix> which one will be easiest to use to accomplish this?
[22:20] <daftykins> i'd imagine Wi-Fi bridge would be a more appropriate attempt
[22:20] <daftykins> probably the same
[22:20] <SJr> I like openwrt better. It may be a function of the router, but dd-wrt always seemed flaky on my WRT54GS. OpenWRT was easier to setup and manage from the command line, and really has just worked now for 3 years.
[22:20] <chaotix> a network bridge wont work because the other computer is going to be in another room
[22:21] <chaotix> SJr, thanks
[22:21] <chaotix> so since i am using linux to configure it, openwrt would be a better option then
[22:21] <chaotix> i am using a wrt54g v6
[22:22] <daftykins> not sure i see any reason for Linux influencing the firmware you put on a device
[22:22] <ferret_commander> no
[22:22] <ferret_commander> su -
[22:22] <ferret_commander> then run apt stuff
[22:22] <ferret_commander> I hate sudo
[22:22] <Ben64> well, you're wrong ferret_commander
[22:22] <ferret_commander> wrong about what?
[22:22] <ferret_commander> I am never wrong!
[22:22] <chaotix> "OpenWRT was easier to setup and manage from the command line"
[22:22] <ferret_commander> lol
[22:22] <daftykins> ferret_commander: thats not how you do it.
[22:22] <Ben64> should never use su like that
[22:22] <ferret_commander> uh
[22:22] <ferret_commander> works for me!!
[22:23] <ferret_commander> lol
[22:23] <ferret_commander> dutch!!
[22:23] <Ben64> and especially don't suggest it here, and please stop using enter as punctuation
[22:23] <daftykins> just because something works doesn't make it a good idea
[22:23] <ferret_commander> vot republican
[22:23] <chaotix> if using ubuntu, i think you have to do sudo su... su will not work
[22:23] <daftykins> chaotix: heh the devices are more often configured by web admin anyway
[22:23] <Ben64> sudo su is also a terrible idea, please do not do that either
[22:23] <Kawaiola> Anyone ever have a problem with setting a static ip and not being able to connect to anything on the outside world?
[22:23] <daftykins> chaotix: no that's bad practice too
[22:23] <ferret_commander> but I did it last week
[22:23] <ferret_commander> su -
[22:23] <ferret_commander> enter root pass
[22:23] <ferret_commander> #
[22:23] <daftykins> my troll detection alarm is going off
[22:23] <Ben64> ferret_commander: thats nice, please don't say that here though
[22:23] <Shelly_> rebooted, still no audio multimedia controls from my k400 keyboard... ...
[22:24] <Shelly_> audio controls worked in 12.04 before upgrade, frustraighting!
[22:26] <seanp2k> can someone explain why initctl can't see apache? http://hastebin.com/aciyuduzil.pl
[22:26] <chaotix> ok thanks for the hep guys...  bye  :)
[22:26] <chaotix> i will check back with results in about 2 hours
[22:27] <Shelly_> audio controls worked in 12.04 before upgrade, frustraighting!
[22:27] <terabit> wow ็็็็็้้้้้็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้ ด็็็็็้้้้้็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้ ด็็็็็้้้้้็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้
[22:28] <Meerkat> I'm having issues with xscreensaver, I think. The locked screen password field keeps popping up randomly, but it is not functional. If I move my mouse around the proper desktop is getting rendered properly again. Running Xubuntu 14.04.
[22:28] <seanp2k> I'm on 14.04 LTS. it seems that while both `apache2ctl status` and `service apache2 status` do what I expect, initctl has no idea about apache. This seems wrong.
[22:30] <chaotix> SJr, since you have done this before, can you assist me in flashing my wrt54g v6 router with open-wrt?
[22:30] <SJr> I cannot sorry, I haven't done it in a number of years. There is an #openwrt channel though I thought.
[22:30] <chaotix> ok thanks
[22:31] <SJr> It might be on oftc though
[22:31] <daftykins> chaotix: sure you can't beg/borrow/ a windows machine for 5 minutes ;)
[22:31] <daftykins> looks pretty simple.
[22:31] <daftykins> i'm sure you can do the TFTP stuff on Linux too but i have no idea where to start with that
[22:31] <chaotix> yeah i have a windows one
[22:32] <chaotix> well, i have windows installed on this, i just have to reboot
[22:32] <daftykins> chaotix: make it so!
[22:43] <Praxi> so I am trying to put a hard drive into a high end workstation/server.  The hard drive is connected via sata and uses a dock.  if I run lsblk I don't see the hard drive, unless I reboot the server.  Is there anything in ubuntu I can do to refresh that without rebooting the server?
[22:44] <mgolisch_> Praxi: rescan scsi bus?
[22:44]  * Praxi goes to google with new search terms
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Praxi: Are you sure that your SATA controller and this dock both support hot swapping of drives?
[22:46] <Praxi> Yes Jordan_U, worked when it was a windoze box
[22:47] <Praxi> I haven't verified that the bios is set to ACHI, I suppose someone could of turned that off by the time it got to me
[22:47] <mgolisch_> yeah maybe
[22:49] <Shelly_> can anyone help me get my multimedia (voluma) keyboard keys working? they worked before 12.04 upgrade
[22:53] <holstein> Shelly2: did you reboot after running the commands i gave?
[22:54] <Shelly2> holstein: yes
[22:54] <holstein> Shelly2: ok, and the multimedia keys still are not working as they once did?
[22:54] <holstein> Shelly2: have you tried as the guest user?
[22:54] <Shelly2> correct
[22:54] <Shelly2> no
[22:54] <holstein> Shelly2: please login as "guest" and try them
[22:55] <holstein> Shelly2: this is a laptop,correct?
[22:58] <ryan_46> Does anyone know what the latest kernel is running on 12.04 Precise?
[22:58] <Shelly2> holstein: didn't work as guest either
[22:58] <holstein> ryan_46: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Ubuntu_Kernel_3.11
[22:59] <ryan_46> holstein:  Thanks
[22:59] <holstein> Shelly2: you can try an older kernel.. from grub, which if hidden, you show by pressing shift at boot, after the bios screens.. then, select "previous" and try an older kernel
[22:59] <holstein> Shelly2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopSpecialKeys is the ultimate documentation that will help you
[23:07] <Shelly2> holstein: it is hard for me to reboot (grub/older kernel), and i didn't gleen anything from that link...
[23:07] <holstein> Shelly2: sure.. its complex if its not just "magically working" like it was
[23:07] <Shelly2> holstein: i guess i shouldn't have upgraded...
[23:08] <holstein> Shelly2: what do i suggest? try a live CD.. entertain the fact that the hardware could have broken.. try and boot an older kernel and see if the kernel update is the issue
[23:08]  * agamotto bows
[23:08] <agamotto> Hallo, everyone
[23:08] <holstein> Shelly2: for me, some keyboard shortcuts are not a priority over updates. and you are assuming that its an update that broke them
[23:08] <Promit> if anyone has any ideas on this i'd really appreciate it http://askubuntu.com/questions/461962/system-hangs-on-boot-black-purple-screen
[23:08] <holstein> Shelly2: it likely was an update.. and i think you should try the older kernel. have you?
[23:09] <holstein> Shelly2: you reboot.. press shift after the bios screen.. choose "previous" from the list, and select an older kernel.. they are in pairs with recovery.. you just select them with the arrow keys and press enter
[23:09] <Shelly2> holstein: i'll reboot and select alt kernel when i can, in about 12 hours, thanks for your effort
[23:10] <holstein> Shelly2: why can you not reboot the machine now? are you remote into the machine? if so, that can affect this..
[23:12] <Shelly_> holstein: it is a working surveillance system
[23:12] <Shelly_> holstein: i am local and using console, thanks
[23:15] <robjloranger> Has anyone had issues waking video from suspend with the 3.15 kernel?
[23:15] <barbara> Any idea why I'm getting literally hundreds of "Authenticate to Wireless" popups
[23:15] <barbara> yet I'm connected
[23:16] <holstein> robjloranger: not relating to that kernel, but on specific hardware, sure.. where are you getting that kernel? it could be the issue, i suppose
[23:17] <robjloranger> i got it from the mainline http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.15-rc4-utopic/
[23:17] <barbara> connect automatically is on
[23:17] <barbara> so is available for all users
[23:17] <holstein> barbara: could be you are being offered to authenticate, via a web portal, even though you are connected
[23:17] <holstein> barbara: is it your access point
[23:18] <holstein> robjloranger: mainlines are not released, officially.. that could be the deal.. are you just testing for the kernel team?
[23:18] <barbara> holstein: I'm getting hundreds of these windows when my computer wakes up
[23:18] <holstein> barbara: only after suspend?
[23:19] <barbara> yes
[23:19] <barbara> far as i can tell
[23:19] <robjloranger> no i had to upgrade to avoid another issue with 3.13 kernel where my network connectivity suffered terrible lag spikes, like 4 or 5 second response times
[23:19] <Bray90820> Is it possible to create and restore a system image of ubuntu like you can on windows
[23:19] <holstein> barbara: does it happen *only* after suspend?
[23:19] <barbara> im not sure to be honest
[23:19] <barbara> but i only have one wireless network on the keyring
[23:19] <holstein> Bray90820: yes
[23:19] <barbara> and it is supplied with the proper WPA2 password
[23:19] <holstein> Bray90820: actually, you'd have to see how its done in windows.. but, clonezilla can do both
[23:20] <robjloranger> yes i recomemend clonezilla
[23:20] <holstein> barbara: are you up to date with upgrades?
[23:20] <Shelly2> holstein: took a gamble and rebooted, shift didn't pull up boot menu...
[23:20] <holstein> Shelly2: sure.. you are looking for the grub menu
[23:20] <barbara> yeah update && upgrade
[23:21] <barbara> this happens on linux based os's debian & ubuntu
[23:21] <robjloranger> holstein: it's not a super big deal though as i can still just boot the previous 3.11 kernel. just wonderingif anyone else had noticed
[23:21] <barbara> ive had this issue with another laptop
[23:21] <holstein> Shelly2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version suggests easy ways of showing grub, if you want
[23:21] <barbara> there must be somethin wrong with the nm-applet
[23:21] <barbara> -g
[23:21] <holstein> Shelly2: this is *not* a fix, but a troubleshooting step.. to test the older kernel. dont wast much time here on it.. just try the older kernel. you can do what with the live CD you installed from
[23:22] <holstein> barbara: on other hardware with different wifi chip? not the same wifi dongle? correct?
[23:22] <barbara> yes
[23:22] <holstein> barbara: its something to do with either you configuring, or that specific access point and linux.. have you found a bug ?
[23:23] <barbara> its related to network manager the issue
[23:23] <barbara> not my hardware
[23:23] <Bray90820> holstein: i don't really care how windows does it all i want to do is transfer my ubuntu install from one HDD to another
[23:23] <robjloranger> Bray90820: try clonezilla
[23:23] <robjloranger> Bray90820: it's what i used to move my ubuntu from one hdd to another when i got a larger drive
[23:23] <holstein> Bray90820: ok.. you asked about windows.. i suggest clonezilla.. if you want, as you asked, to do it "like in windows" you'll need to ask in a windows channel how its done there
[23:24] <holstein> though, clonezilla supports windows and linux cloning
[23:24] <barbara> someone suggested ignoring IPV6
[23:24] <barbara> "Hi, I know this is an old thread, but I just had the same problem on a new install of Ubuntu 12.04. To fix the issue, I went to the IPv6 settings for the network in question, and selected ignore under the "Method" drop-down menu. "
[23:24] <Beldar> clonezilla saves the mbr if your using it
[23:24] <barbara> not sure how that would help
[23:24] <Bray90820> robjloranger: i was just using windows as an example didn't really care if it was windows
[23:24] <robjloranger> Bray90820: with CZ you just have to have the same size or larger size destination drive
[23:24] <robjloranger> or partition
[23:25] <Bray90820> robjloranger: can i transfer the install to a new hard drive while it's connected externally
[23:25] <holstein> Bray90820: yes
[23:25] <robjloranger> yes
[23:25] <Bray90820> So then i just pop the new drive into the computer and i am done?
[23:25] <holstein> Bray90820: you can do *exactly* what you are asking to do with the tool clonezilla ..http://clonezilla.org/
[23:25] <robjloranger> yep, it even clones the drive id
[23:25] <Bray90820> Hum ok
[23:25] <Bray90820> Thanks
[23:26] <holstein> Bray90820: that depends.. you can clone the drive.. if the drivers support the new hardware, then yes
[23:26] <Bray90820> holstein: i am putting a new drive in the same system
[23:26] <Bray90820> It's just an HDD upgrade
[23:26] <holstein> Bray90820: the linux kernel is modular, and there is a good chance that can happen.. but, you would want to remove any proprietary drivers before moving to different hardware
[23:26] <robjloranger> it will be fine then
[23:27] <Bray90820> holstein: robjloranger thanks
[23:27] <robjloranger> so long as it;s the same type of drive, i.e. SSD or ESATA or SATA
[23:27] <tapout> when you guys check a drive, do you bother with badblocks?  I've got 2 1TB drives I have had sitting around and I don't recall why.  I checked smartctl -a, no errors.  Should I bother with badblocks or what ?
[23:28] <Bray90820> robjloranger: it's an SSD to an HDD both sata  that i will be connecting through usb
[23:29] <robjloranger> ya sorry, as long as it's sata to sata, not IDE or something as the drive designations would be different.. like /dev/hda vs /dev/sda
[23:30] <Jordan_U> tapout: I personally wouldn't bother with badblocks, but with or without badblocks you should be making regular and tested backups of important data.
[23:30] <robjloranger> tapout: what do you mean by bother with bad blocks?
[23:33] <r_Lab> Hi
[23:34] <robjloranger> hi
[23:39] <Shelly2> holstein: tried 2 prior kernels, (3.2.0-48, and -45), neither helped multimedia keys :(
[23:39] <holstein> Shelly2: so, the hardware can still be broken. or another upgrade is breaking your system
[23:39] <loa> is steam client working?
[23:40] <robjloranger> mine is
[23:40] <loa> check if it is really connected please
[23:40] <Shelly2> holstein: i also tried 2nd keyboard, no luck
[23:40] <holstein> Shelly2: i would try the live CD that i installed from.. then, i would know the keys should be working.. then, the document i gave is the "best" resource
[23:40] <loa> or if you can do relog.
[23:40] <robjloranger> loa: sure one sec
[23:40] <holstein> !steam | loa
[23:40] <loa> holstein, ok
[23:41] <Shelly2> i'll have to create a 12.04 live usb i guess...
[23:41] <robjloranger> loa: nope sory, it's dead
[23:41] <loa> =/
[23:41] <loa> thx
[23:41] <robjloranger> loa: there is a website to help you check, www.issteamdown.com
[23:41] <loa> you really helped.
[23:41] <holstein> Shelly2: or read the official documentation for how to provide the support.. there are commands to run to see if the keys are sending anything..
[23:41] <robjloranger> loa: i know i hate that lol right when i want to play
[23:42] <loa> i thought i have network problems.
[23:42] <holstein> loa: you are.. just not on your end, it seems
[23:43] <Shelly2> holstein: the keys to show working in Settings->Keyboard->Short cuts... but no graphic for volume activity
[23:43] <holstein> Shelly2: sure.. those are settings
[23:43] <Shelly2> the keys do
[23:43] <Shelly2> but if i re-define, they register
[23:43] <holstein> Shelly2: that doesnt tell you anything.. you can see those without any keyboard installed
[23:44] <innocent95> Hi
[23:44] <holstein> Shelly2: ok.. thats the proceedure i would follow. test with a known-supported OS.. and go from there
[23:44] <ComviqKali> paying 0.10 btc to whoever get my drivers / 3g modem connected
[23:44] <Shelly2> holstein: and if that works?
[23:44] <robjloranger> innocent95: hello
[23:44] <innocent95> is there a command to install slackware boost package directly ?
[23:44] <Shelly2> holstein: live cd
[23:44] <holstein> Shelly2: then, you know  your hardware is functioning properly, and its something in your installation
[23:45] <Shelly2> holstein: before i upgraded it was working fine
[23:45] <ComviqKali> Does anyone know 3g usb dongles well enough to make some quick money and help me out of misery?
[23:45] <holstein> innocent95: this is the ubuntu support channel.. i think there is #slackware
[23:45] <holstein> Shelly2: ok..
[23:45] <innocent95> okay
[23:45] <holstein> Shelly2: this will confirm the hardware isnt broken. otherwise, file a bug
[23:45] <holstein> !bug | Shelly2
[23:45] <mister_m> in 14.04 Desktop, how can I configure my install to be terminal only? I don't want to boot into the desktop at all
[23:46] <holstein> Shelly2: you'll want to find someone with the same issue you have.. and you are welcome to wait..
[23:46] <holstein> mister_m: why not just install minimal?
[23:46] <holstein> !Mini | mister_m
[23:47] <robjloranger> mister_m: edit your /etc/default/grub like so 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"'
[23:47] <robjloranger> mister_m: then update grub via 'sudo update-grub'
[23:52] <ComviqKali> any guru wanna help me ? :) would be much apriciated worked with this for few days and havent got it working
[23:53] <robjloranger> what version of ubuntu and which dongle are you trying to use? what exactly is happening?
[23:54] <ComviqKali> im using ZTE MF 190 HSUPA
[23:54] <ComviqKali> i've followed a bunch of guides, used usb modeswitch and what not on both ubuntu, bt , kali none of it seems to work
[23:54] <ComviqKali> but i read other people have got it to work
[23:54] <ComviqKali> I just need someone to work this out for me for payment cuz I rly need it to be working :(
[23:55] <ComviqKali> if i use other 3G dongles it works fine just that this brand for some reason is detected as a storage or something
[23:55] <ComviqKali> I'll pay to get this done
[23:55] <robjloranger> can you pastebin the following;
[23:55] <robjloranger> uname -a
[23:55] <robjloranger> lsusb
[23:55] <robjloranger> lsmod
[23:55] <robjloranger> usb-devices
[23:55] <robjloranger> rather, the results of the following :)
[23:55] <ComviqKali> http://pastebin.com/keniMiNh
[23:56] <ComviqKali> i have this from yesterday
[23:56] <robjloranger> lol ok
[23:57] <ComviqKali> only thing that changed is the modem now is 19d2:1225
[23:57] <ComviqKali> because i plugged it out and in
[23:57] <ComviqKali> PLEASE someone just help me get this running this is driving me crazy
[23:57] <robjloranger> if you see the driver is listed as usb-storage, not modem
[23:58] <robjloranger> try installing usb-modeswitch,  "sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch usb-modeswitch-data"
[23:58] <holstein> ComviqKali: well, ideally, the vendor/creator would help you.. nothing about ubuntu is preventing it from working.. providing your own support for unsupported hardware can be challenging
[23:58] <robjloranger> then switch the mode to modem
[23:58] <ComviqKali> i have that already
[23:58] <holstein> ComviqKali: have you tried the vendor? some support linux..
[23:59] <ComviqKali> no, i meant i have put on modeswitch
[23:59] <ComviqKali> and i've played some settings from guides
[23:59] <ComviqKali> im always up at midnight so kind of hard
[23:59] <robjloranger> so if you type usb-devices the driver listed for the dongle say modem?
[23:59] <mister_m> robjloranger: what if I don't have grub installed