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sheercool, I might try the apparmor solution00:24
sheerthanks guys00:24
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starratsThink I got my 'freezing of the cursor/keyboard/ fixed finally with the help od a couple of good nicks/friends on my other most frequented channel01:05
starratsbeen testing it out and all seem to be okay so far01:05
starratsanyone having/owning a Toshiba Sattelite Mod# L755D... might apreciate this info, whe should i put it for folks using or new to 14.04?01:13
starratswhere not whe01:14
starratshello drc01:22
drchey starrats: see you've fixed your freezing problem :)01:23
David-Astarrats: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport used to be a wiki where anyone could add a device and if it worked or not, but now the wiki is "immutable".01:23
drcor frozen? :)01:24
starratsyes, I believe so, my friend/nick in my other channel found a line to add in in the grub01:24
David-Astarrats: the immutable page for laptops links to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam , see if that takes you further01:24
starratsno my 'freezing of cursor/kb has ben rectified, been testing it after the installation of a line in grub01:25
starratsI put in a an 'add-on to the grub line that ends in quiet splash01:26
starratsand then ran sudo update-grub01:26
mykehello, i upgraded from xubuntu 13.04 to 14.04 and now sometimes get kernel panics shortly after boot...if i don't get one within the first few minutes it doesn't seem i get one at all...anyone experience this or have info?  TIA01:56
xubuntu674Hello01:59
xubuntu674Would anyone be able to assist with the install of compiz?  I have attempted a few different ways, but it does not seem to be working properly.02:01
xanguasudo apt-get install compiz metacity compizconfig-settings-manager02:06
xanguaOpen compiz manager and in the decoration plugin substitute whatever is default with metacity --replace02:06
xanguaRun compiz --replace02:06
xanguaor it was compiz -replace¿ something like that02:06
xubuntu674I think it is compiz --replace02:07
xubuntu674I will do that now02:07
PotatoHeadSame compiz guy - that sent my x window on a flashing craze02:12
gryfft'ello gents and ladies03:18
gryfft'amixer -c 0 sset PCM,0 20+' works great for me from command line, when I try to set it as a keyboard shortcut for xf86audioraisevolume, nothing happens03:18
gryfftany thoughts?03:19
gryffthmmm, just tried binding a different thing to xf86audioraisevolume03:20
gryfftdidn't work either03:20
gryfftit recognizes the keypress when I set the keyboard shortcut, so why not elsewhere?03:21
gryfftMercy me, what a mystery.03:22
gryfftI guess I could just map it to something other than the volume keys.03:23
gryfftFeels like failure.03:24
holsteingryfft: try mapping to *anything* and see what is failing03:24
holsteingryfft: it may be the pass through of the commands from the hardware03:24
gryfftyeah, I'm mapping amixer -c 0 sset PCM,0 20+ to ctrl+f12 and it's not working03:25
holsteintry something more simple, and obvious..03:25
holsteingryfft: then, its something with the way your are trying to implement...03:25
gryfftsounds like it03:25
gryfftI wonder why it works from bash but not as a keyboard shortcut03:25
holsteingryfft: thats bash, and this is a keyboard shortcut03:26
gryfftlol03:26
holsteingryfft: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116052/custom-keyboard-shortcut-to-lauch-a-terminal-and-run-a-command-in-unity03:27
holsteingryfft: might be something like that, where you specify where the command runs, and/or, use ""'s03:27
gryffthmmmm, let's see03:28
gryfftit was a good thought, I might be doing something wrong03:32
holsteingryfft: i have remapped my volume control03:33
holsteinmaybe you should start with what you are doing, and trying to accomplish, generally...03:33
gryfftI want my volume keys to control my volume, haha03:33
gryfftgot a wireless logitech keyboard, the xf86audioraisevolume key doesn't do anything apparently03:34
gryfftwell. It doesn't get through to alsa I suppose03:34
gryfftit detects the keypress, because I can assign it a binding in the keyboard shortcut settings dialog03:35
gryfftbut then once it's bound, nothing happens when I press it03:35
holsteingryfft: assign something else to the vinding03:36
holsteinbinding*03:36
gryfftlike abiword, to see if I can press the same button and have SOMETHING happen?03:36
gryfftjust did, still no joy03:36
holsteingryfft: no joy?03:36
gryfftno positive result, sorry03:37
holsteingryfft: so *nothing* launches from those?03:37
gryfftcorrect03:37
gryfftthe keypress is detected by the OS but isn't causing anything to launch03:37
holsteingryfft: so, its an issue with the hardware03:37
holsteingryfft: i would bind it to something else, and not lose sleep over it03:38
gryfftfair... except... it detects the keypress03:38
holsteinthe logitech controllers dont promise linux support03:38
holsteingryfft: its not allowing *any* binding03:38
holsteingryfft: thats the goal.. not "Detection"03:38
gryfftit recognizes the key03:38
holsteingryfft: sure.. still not the goal, though.. recognition, and detection are not the goal03:38
gryfftright, the goal is binding03:39
gryfftI appreciate your help, I'll keep on this and report back if I find a solution03:39
holsteingryfft: sure.. im surprised it doesnt "just work"03:40
gryfftme too, I'm not the type to hit up IRC for this kind of thing usually hahaha03:40
holsteingryfft: you should file a bug, though, you should state the hardware model, and try and get someone to confirm the issue03:40
gryfftthere's usually something in man or stackoverflow or whatevs03:40
gryfftidk, having a hard time buying it's hardware03:40
gryfftthe keypress is being registered correctly at the OS level03:41
holsteinsure, but you *cant* bind on the other keyboard03:41
holsteinwhat can you bind? and how? on the unit in question03:41
gryfftmakes me think that button's somehow reserved03:41
gryffthm? by 'unit' you mean 'keyboard'?03:42
holsteingryfft: the one that is "broken"03:42
holsteingryfft: the one you are asking about03:42
gryfftsame keyboard I'm typing on03:42
holsteingryfft: im assuming, and you should test, that some other keyboard works as expected with the operating system, and your user config03:42
gryfftI just bound firefox to the xf86calculator key03:42
gryfftpops open instantaneously like a dream03:43
holsteinand you cant bind it to the volume controls?03:43
gryfftnope03:43
gryfftwhen I try to bind it03:43
gryfftit says in the keyboard shortcut dialog that it's bound to xf86raisevolume03:44
gryfftI selected the application firefox then pushed the raise volume key to bind it03:44
gryfftrecognized, bound03:44
gryfftpress volume button... nothing03:44
holsteinsure.. its just that, binding isnt broken, and the hardware works.. so, what do you do? you know?03:44
gryfftno dice03:44
gryfftyou fix it. >:D03:44
gryfftwell03:44
gryfft*I* do, or try03:44
holsteingryfft: ideally, they would.. but, they dont03:45
gryfft"they"?03:45
gryfftthis is Linux03:45
holsteinif they supported linux, or said "linux support" on the box, it would just work03:45
holsteingryfft: "they" is the creators of the hardware03:45
gryfftEhhh. I'm not blaming this one on logitech03:45
holsteingryfft: yeah?03:45
holsteingryfft: im not either.. but thats who, ideally, could address this03:45
gryfftthe hardware, as far as I can tell, is working correctly03:46
gryfftthis is at the OS level03:46
holsteingryfft: im not interested in instigating a blame game.. the most arguably constructive thing to do is.. file a bug, try and get it confirume03:46
holsteincomfirmed*03:46
holsteingryfft: you are assuming its OS level, still03:46
holsteingryfft: you shouldnt.. if you think it is, try another linux OS.. or a supported OS to make sure the hardware is functioning properly03:47
holsteingryfft: live CD's are an easy way to experiment with a totally drifferent kernel, and hardware support scnario, while removing your user config from the equaiton as well..03:48
gryfftI have a couple lying around03:49
gryfftI'll jump back in if I find out more03:50
ZippyFcan i ask for help here?04:17
akishi all. i am running 12.04 on a 1,5 ghz celeron old system with 1,5 gb ram and 5,5 gb hd. the system runs pretty smoothly and i am wondering if i can upgrade it to 14.04 without any lag to its operation and if 14.04 could be installed on my tiny hd because i read that the minimum requirements for 14.04 is 6gb for hd (https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/xubuntu). Your opinion please?04:29
holsteinakis: do you want or need 14.04?04:30
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xanguamaybe consider to installing lubuntu or a minimal install04:31
akisi dont want or need it except because 12.04 expires next April and i want to be updated. i am pretty satisfied with 12.04. any idea to overcome the expiration od 12.04?04:32
holsteinakis: 12.04 upstream repos are up for 5 years04:32
xanguaakis: 12.04 expires next april...in the next 3 years04:32
holsteinakis: if you want 14.04, try it live.. should work fine for you04:33
akisxangua: lubuntu needs 8 gb and i don't want to go for a new clean isntallation, because it took me a long time to setup my system as i like it!04:33
holsteinakis: lubuntu should need 8, and it would need less than xubuntu04:33
holstein!mini04:33
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:33
holsteinyou can always install ^ and add just what you like04:34
holsteinxfce for example, or lxde.. not lubuntu or xubuntu.. then, you get support for 5 years04:34
akisxangua: what is the exact date that 12.04 expires. i am little confused. Ubuntu 12.04 expires april 2017 but xubuntu i think that expires on April 2015. isn't it?04:36
holsteinakis: the xubuntu specific packages are suppported 3 years.. ubuntu is supported 5.. so, if you are running xfce on ubuntu, that is supported for 5 years.. xubuntu-desktop and xubuntu specific support is only 3 years04:37
akisholstein: upstream repos will be available after expiration?04:37
holsteinakis: the upstream repos do not expire in 3 years04:37
akisholstein: i am little confused. xubuntu doesnt run xcfe?04:38
holsteinyes.. but more specifically, xubuntu uses the xubuntu-desktop, which is supported for 3 years  .. along with the other xubuntu packages04:39
akisand what will happen with my system on next April. it will or it want stop be updated it? how can i check it out?04:40
holsteinakis: next aprile, the xubuntu packages are no longer supported or updated.. or maintained.. but, the ubuntu core, as is main ubuntu , is supported 5 years04:40
holsteinso, kernel updates, other operating system security updates.. etc.. all updates come in for 5 years.. just not xubuntu specific04:42
akisholstein: ok. that means that my system could update only the kernel but not any package (like chrome etc)?04:42
holsteinakis: chrome is not in the repos04:42
holsteinakis: but, if you mean, like firefox.. yes.. firefox would still be updated, since its in the ubuntu repos, and ubuntu is supported 5 years04:42
akisholstein: ok. that is clear. my system would be updated on its core. but the ubuntu software center will expire?04:44
holsteinakis: no04:44
holsteinakis: the ubuntu software center is upstream.. ubuntu..04:44
akisholstein: so almost everything will work as now?04:45
holsteinakis: the xubuntu specific packages are maintained 3 years.. ubuntu is maintained 5 years04:45
holsteinakis: there is no reason why you shouldnt try 14.04, however04:46
akiswhich are the xubuntu specific packages?04:46
holsteinakis: the xubuntu ones.. xubuntu-desktop.. xfce specific to xubuntu04:46
xanguaxfce related packages....the xfce panel, xfce file browser, xfce player04:47
holsteinanything xubuntu supported04:47
akisi will try it on another notebook with a 150 gb hd to check how more space it will take and if it doesnt take more space (than this 12.04 it takes already) i will proceed on my older laptop.04:47
akisxangua: it is more clear now. i dont think that they are very important updates.04:48
holsteinakis: well, they are if you are using xubuntu, and expect support04:49
akisxfce panel: i am satisfied with my present one. xfce file browser: i am running dolphin (kde!).  xfce player: i have many media players on my system!04:50
holsteinakis: its not about being satisfied. its about also security updates,a nd patches04:50
akisholstein: yea. sure!. but if the core is updated isn't this secure enough?04:51
holsteinakis: thats not a question that i answer for you.. i just state the facts04:51
holsteinakis: im running 14.04. there is no reason for you to avoid 14.0404:52
holsteinthere is also no reason to freak out if you have an older box and want to keep it on 12.04...04:52
akisholstein: ok. no problem. i want avoid it. i want to be upgraded it but hardware issues may stop me from this procedure!04:52
akisi read that 14.04 will be available for automatic upgrade on 12.04 systems next July when 14.04.1 will release. Can i upgrade before that date and how?04:54
sheerhey dudes, is there a good GUI package for setting HTTP proxies?04:55
holsteinakis: fresh install.. an iso.. a guides such as http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04-from-ubuntu-13-10-or-12-04/04:57
akisi know that a fresh new clean installation is the best choice but i dont have the time and the courage to setup again my 3 systems (3 pc's) !!!04:59
akisholstein: i read tha i can also upgrade using an iso image (form a cd/usb stick) (http://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/how-do-i-upgrade-to-a-newer-version-of-ubuntu). Is it true?05:07
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xubuntu344hello09:17
slickymasterWork!hi | xubuntu34409:18
cousteauThe program gnome-keyring being installed is causing lots of warnings in some programs that try to access it (but can't since it's not launched by default, unless you set XFCE to launch Gnome applications on startup).  This program is a headache more than anything.  Could it just be uninstalled?09:18
ubottuxubuntu344: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!09:18
cousteauApparently it's installed because oneconf and software-center depend on it...  but I don't think these programs are important09:19
bazhangif you are used to using apt-get , they probably are not, at least s-c09:19
brainwashcousteau: why not let xfce start gnome apps on startup then? it basically on launches the keyring daemon only after all09:20
brainwashand it also makes sure that the daemon terminates properly on logout09:21
cousteauwell, mostly because I think gnome-keyring is a useless piece of software that may cause some headaches and was wondering whether it can just be removed from xubuntu by default09:21
brainwashsounds like a bad idea09:22
brainwashbut feel free to remove it manually (and all the packages which depend on it)09:22
cousteauapt-get -s remove gnome-keyring  ->  The following packages will be REMOVED:   gnome-keyring oneconf python-ubuntu-sso-client software-center ubuntu-sso-client ubuntu-sso-client-gtk xubuntu-desktop09:23
brainwashxubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package09:24
brainwashso it won't remove the whole xubuntu desktop09:24
cousteauyeah, I know09:24
cousteaumaybe I don't remove it after all (although oneconf and software-center don't seem like a great loss), but I think I may report a bug so that gnome-keyring is enabled by default on xfce too09:25
brainwashit should be enabled by default09:25
cousteauotherwise many programs get this annoying warning -- WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-jL43aq/pkcs11: No such file or directory09:25
cousteau/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop:6: OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity;09:26
cousteauit's set to not run on XFCE (or any DE other than Gnome or Unity), although I guess that "Launch Gnome services on startup" solves this (it's disabled by default though... or maybe I disabled it, but I don't remember doing so)09:28
cousteauI'm using Xubuntu 12.04 btw; maybe this has changed on newer versions09:29
brainwashso the keyring daemon is not running by default?09:29
brainwashah09:29
cousteauexactly09:29
brainwashso not 13.10 or 14.0409:29
brainwashthese version should start the daemon via PAM09:29
cousteauwell, not for pkcs11; some parts of gnome-keyring do run09:29
brainwashmaybe some bug report already exists for 12.0409:30
dreamerhmm, is anyone having issues with NM/networking in 14.04?09:36
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starratsgood morning everyone!09:36
dreamerI have a new install, 32bit. it's not getting a dhcp-lease on boot. and I'm unable to stop/start/reload/force-reload/restart the networking service09:36
brainwashwhat happens if you try to restart it?09:37
dreamerit says 'Job failed while stopping' and 'Job is already running'09:40
dreamerhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/441619/how-to-successfully-restart-a-network-without-reboot-over-ssh09:40
brainwashtry to restart the network-manager09:41
dreamerthere is no service network-manager09:42
dreameralthough Network-Manager is running09:42
dreamerhmm, it does work, but it doesn't tab-complete o.O09:43
dreamerand it's not a script in /etc/init.d/09:43
dreamerit's not in 'service --status-all' either09:44
brainwashit's managed by upstart09:45
brainwashtry "sudo restart network-manager"09:45
dreamer'service network-manager restart' does work btw09:45
dreamerbut, it still doesn't get a dhcp-lease09:45
dreamerhmm, I had to set managed=true in NetworkManager.conf, even though this was not necessary on 13.04 or 13.10 .. annoying09:48
brainwashmmh09:48
brainwashbut otherwise your connections won't be managed by nm09:49
dreamerhmm, also running in to 'Error malformed file' on boot. I see this is quite common09:50
starratsbrainwash:  got my 'freezing at restart' fixed/repaired for good this time, had to add a line into grub.10:24
starratshad help with another nick and he found the flaw in 5 minutes10:24
xubuntu904i just downloaded the xubuntu iso file and it has no .exe file how do i install it?11:04
brainwashstarrats: and what exactly did you add?11:14
svartes.12:16
knome!12:17
dreamerhmmm, can someone tell me where to find the system-wide settings for light-locker?12:27
ochosidreamer: the defaults are in /etc/xdg/autostart/light-locker.deskop12:33
dreamerochosi: thnx12:38
starratsbrainwash:  did you get my pm?12:39
brainwashstarrats: no12:40
starratsdamn12:41
starratsokay12:41
starrats here's what I added after the line ending with 'quiet splash'  should read in grub as follows 'quiet splash i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset"  make sure this is inside the ".."12:41
starratsthere's the msg and what I did ^^^^^^^^^12:42
brainwashah, I see12:42
dreamerochosi: hmm, I see there's also a screensaver-settings.desktop created that I'd like to change the settings from on system-wide level. any idea if I should just make a new file in /etc/xdg/autostart/ ?12:43
ochosidreamer: i guess you could try that, but i'd look first whether there's another way, as this is a setting of xorg12:43
starratsbrainwash:  not sure if this a 'bug' in the instance of folks using toshiba laptops or in general but my friend found this info in a archwiki and also in a ubuntuwiki12:45
brainwashstarrats: it's a "bug" in the kernel and to prevent it from occurring you need to add these kernel paramters manually12:47
brainwashsome sort of autodetection is not working properly, so it fails randomly12:48
starratsah okay brainwash, you might want to keep them saved somewhere just in case another new xubuntu user falls prey to this 'freeze at statup' problem.  i have saved it on my comp in a few different places for backup.12:49
brainwashyes, it's nice to know12:50
brainwashbut it's not specific to xubuntu12:50
starratsah okay, that's what my friend mentioned also12:51
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LaxMy pc is refusing to suspend with inactivity, but I can suspend it manually.  Is there a tool I can use to see what is keeping it 'up'?  to determine how I can tweak it to suspend/sleep after an hour?14:44
xboonhey dudes, got a problem with installing wine on xubuntu 14.04: there is always a msg with dependencies and recommends which is not wanted to install14:47
xboonhope you understand what I mean14:48
drcxboon: You want to install WINE but not it's dependencies and recommends?14:51
Picixboon: you need to install the dependencies, the recommends are optional14:52
Picisee the --no-install-recommends option14:52
xboonwell it says something like:  wine1.6: Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4) is not installed14:53
xboonwhile using sudo apt-get install wine1.614:53
xboonand then some recommends like fonts-horai-umefont or kde-runtime14:54
xboonwith wine1.7:                    wine1.7 : Hängt ab von: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.17-0ubuntu1~saucy1) ist aber nicht installierbar14:57
xboontranslated: wine1.7 : depends on: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.17-0ubuntu1~saucy1) but is not installable14:59
xboonwould be nice if someone could help :)15:01
amigamagichave you tried with synaptic ?15:03
xboonamigamagic: yea, same problem15:08
brainwashstrange.. you are using 14.04, but the package version contains ~saucy115:09
xboonyes I'm using 14.0415:10
brainwashwhat does "apt-cache policy wine1.7-i386" return?15:11
xboonwine1.7-i386:   Installiert:           (keine)   Installationskandidat: (keine)   Versionstabelle:15:12
xboonand with wine1.7 without -i38615:12
xboonwine1.7:   Installiert:           (keine)   Installationskandidat: 1:1.7.17-0ubuntu1~saucy1   Versionstabelle:      1:1.7.17-0ubuntu1~saucy1 0         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status15:12
xboonhope you can understand it as well because it's german :p15:13
msev_...I'm trying to compile something and i get an error -> undefined reference to `lrintf'15:14
msev_can u guys help me out15:14
brainwashxboon: mmh, I assume that you need to run "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"15:15
brainwashthen once again "sudo apt-get update"15:16
xboonI'm using amd64 version of xubuntu 14.0415:16
brainwashright, but you also need need 32bit binary files too15:17
brainwash-need15:17
xboonokay15:19
xboonnow it seems to work :) downloading about 200mb15:19
brainwashgreat :)15:19
xboonthanks brainwash :-)15:20
xboonhave a nice day dudes ;)15:20
Aurvandillyou too15:21
adniaHi, is there any solution to the missing nm-applet icon in the panel yet? Data: Upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04, panel IS executed and NOT by root and only ONCE.16:46
baizonno missing nm-applet for me16:46
adniaMy notification area just shows an IBus icon (which I hadn't had before), volume slider and power management indicator. nm-applet is missing and so is Skype when I'm logged in16:48
adniaBut I just want nm-applet back right now ;)16:48
baizonadnia: clear the panel settings? have you tried that?16:49
adniaWhat do you mean exactly? I have tried to remove and re-add the notification area to my panel16:50
Fohlenhey guys. I'm an encountering "non-system disk" on my attempt to install a fresh xubuntu 14.04 via usb-drive16:50
Fohlenthe image was "burned" with unetbootin. I verified the checksums already, the archive's not broken in any case. The error affects multiple tested systems.16:51
baizonadnia: i mean clear the configuration file16:51
Fohlenthe error appears right after the bios load has finished.16:52
baizonFohlen: i'm using linuxliveusb and had never problems with it16:52
Fohlenbaizon: thanks. I will try.16:52
baizonadnia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings16:53
FohlenEh baizon, isnt linuxliveusb only intended to be used with windows?16:53
baizonFohlen: yes it is :(16:53
Fohlenthat's bad :D16:53
baizoni thought u want it to do within windows16:53
adniaThanks, I googled the very same link myself and it helped! Thank you!16:54
baizonadnia: problem solved with the missing nm-applet?16:54
xanguaso xubuntu 14.04 support message indicator stuff but doesn't support appmenu right¿16:55
baizonFohlen: have you tried http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu16:55
Fohlenbaizon: was the next step I was looking to try :)16:55
Fohlenbaizon: moreover the problem I have is, this error only appears with 14.0416:55
baizonxangua: test it? :>16:57
Fohlenbaizon: I'll see if this gives another result. Thank you for the ideas :)16:57
adniabaizon: It was solved. However, seems like it is still not shown in the notification area but it shows up when using the indicator plugin16:57
adniabaizon: thank you again :)16:58
baizonadnia: no problem :)16:58
xanguabaizon: I did, doesn't work, hwever I notice many xfce applications now can hide the menu16:58
baizonxangua: i think the project is unmaintained :(16:59
Sonickyle27Is anyone free? I just started up my xubuntu 12.04 OS and now the desktop wallpaper and icons has disappeared. The panels at the top and bottom of the screen are still visible, and everything else works fine. The desktop background is just grey. Any help?16:59
baizonSonickyle27: clear the .cache/session folder17:00
Sonickyle27Delete the .cache folder, or just the contents?17:00
xubuntu240quetion17:01
xubuntu240question17:01
baizonSonickyle27: $HOME/.cache/sessions17:01
baizonclear the folder17:01
Sonickyle27Done. Shall I reboot?17:02
baizonSonickyle27: log out17:02
Sonickyle27Ok.17:02
Sonickyle27BRB17:02
baizonor reboot, both will work17:02
baizon!ask | xubuntu24017:02
ubottuxubuntu240: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:02
Sonickyle27_Just rebooted, still grey desktop.17:05
Sonickyle27_It seems that something is not loading or something.17:06
ray__does anyone know of a webcam that works on usb and xubuntu17:06
baizonray__: most of them should work17:08
Sonickyle27_I'm going to see what happens to the desktop when I log into a guest account. Be right back again.17:11
Sonickyle27No luck. Even the Guest account's desktop is grey and blank. It's like something's broken.17:15
brainwashSonickyle27: open a terminal window and run "xfdesktop"17:20
Sonickyle27Aha, just done that actually, and it worked!17:20
baizonoha, xfdesktop not running =)17:20
DomiXHi, when I close the lid of my laptop and then login after entering password, I've no access of my desktop only a black screen, is this a bug ?17:20
brainwashDomiX: yes, known issue in xubuntu 14.0417:21
Sonickyle27I was looking through the "About Xfce Desktop window and thought what would happen if I ran it in the terminal. It's now back, *phew*.17:21
DomiXbrainwash, too bad17:21
brainwashDomiX: see bug 130373617:21
ubottubug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Black screen after login from suspend in Xubuntu 14.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130373617:21
DomiXbrainwash, thx17:22
Sonickyle27How did that bug sneak through development? :P17:22
brainwashit was reported on 2014-04-0717:23
Sonickyle27Well, I'm going, thanks for all the help guys.17:23
brainwashDomiX: I've uploaded a test package with a simple workaround (trigger lock screen on wakeup instead of while suspending), but it does not work for everyone according to the comments17:25
brainwashsee comment #4317:25
DomiXI see17:27
DomiXbrainwash, would you like I test your package ?17:28
brainwashfeel free to test it, but I think that I should start working on a proper solution17:29
brainwashdelaying the screen lock like this or even more by adding an extra delay could have negative side effects17:30
brainwashand it's still not clear, why the black screen occurs even with this simple workaround17:31
DomiXbrainwash, brb17:33
brainwashalright17:33
DomiXbrainwash, for me your workaround works17:36
brainwashwas the user session visible for a brief moment?17:36
brainwashtimings are very important in this case17:36
DomiXI closed my lid when opened the lid, I saw my user and the same wallpaper17:37
brainwashyou mean the lock screen?17:37
brainwashor the desktop session17:38
DomiXbrainwash, dunno why but it does work anymore17:40
DomiXI see there is some upgrade to do atm17:41
brainwashsome upgrade?17:43
DomiXyes, apt-get upgrade17:43
DomiXan upgrade for the kernel is available17:43
brainwashah17:44
DomiXbbl17:46
meek_geeka good gui app for wget ? to set proxy and all17:55
Nallemanhi, about every time I click a link the browser (chrome) asks me if I would like to make it my default browser, I click "YES" every time. Why doesn't it stick?18:09
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haserwatrying to install Xubuntu 14.04 LTS, but after booting I see only black and blue-purble screeen with black box blinking....18:11
holsteinhaserwa: the live CD does that?18:12
haserwaholstein: i use unetbootin with live cd image yes18:13
holsteinhaserwa: does the live CD boot?18:14
haserwaholstein: yes18:14
holsteinhaserwa: so, the live CD boots fine? then, you install and get that?18:15
GridCubehaserwa, you might have accidentally installed grub on the usb pendrive18:15
haserwaholstein: i see the same screen color as here http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/trusty_login-475x356.png but it is blinking18:16
knozzleVerify that the downloaded copy of the image isn't corrupt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes. Also make sure that filesystem is a bootable fat derivative.18:16
haserwafilesystem is ntfs....18:18
haserwaholstein: it boot and I just get that18:22
holsteinhaserwa: you installed linux to an ntfs partition?18:22
holsteinhaserwa: what i suggest is, do what was suggested above by knozzle .. make sure the iso you downloaded is "good" and the stick or installation media is "good".. then, install using the defaults after testing the live environment18:23
holstein!install18:23
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate18:23
bix_noodWhat version of XFCE is used in 14.10 LTS?18:26
meek_geekbix_nood, 4.1018:27
bix_noodThanks, it has that wierd bug with desktop freezing for few seconds right after you delete a file from desktop?18:27
bix_noodShits annoying yo18:27
meek_geekno it is not a bug at all18:28
meek_geekI did not experience it anytime18:28
bix_noodWell i have debian stable installed on my laptop but i consider switchig either to Xubuntu or Lubuntu.18:28
bix_noodWould go for lubuntu because muh lightweight but i'm afraid Lubuntu lacks some things that i will have to use in the future and install it manually.18:29
DomiXbrainwash, upgrade kernel did not help18:29
bix_noodXubuntu seems like much more equipped?18:29
bix_noodBack to the topic, on Debian testing with XFCE (4.10) i had this problem, asked few people and they also experienced this.18:30
meek_geekguys when I install vidalia18:30
meek_geekand run it18:30
meek_geekit says tor's address is not correct18:30
might_get_loudguys how can i extract winrar self extracting exe files on xubuntu?19:05
baizonmight_get_loud: https://blaise.ca/blog/2009/06/14/solution-extract-exe-archive-with-7z-in-ubunu-9-04-fix-unsupported-method-error/comment-page-1/19:10
might_get_loudtnx dude19:10
might_get_loudbut i already tried that19:10
baizonand?19:11
baizonmight_get_loud: else you could install unrar-nonfree and use the cmd19:12
baizonthis could also work19:12
might_get_loudSub items Errors: 119:12
hmagoo_bix_nood, xfce 4.10 with xfdesktop 4.1119:37
might_get_loudguys, i have problem with blutooth19:43
might_get_loudmy computer wont recognize it19:43
might_get_loudthats on laptop19:44
might_get_loudi use xubuntu 14.0419:44
might_get_loudmy card is combo wi-fi/bt 4.0 Ralink19:45
might_get_loudmodel no:19:45
might_get_loudRalink RT329019:46
xanguawhat release¿19:59
xanguaI have one of those ralinks and it got recognized in 14.04, in 12.04 I had to do something described in the arch wiki19:59
might_get_loud14.0420:00
might_get_loudcan you send me link pls20:00
might_get_loudor something like that20:00
might_get_loudor should i google ralink 3290 arch wiki :D20:00
xanguait is a ralink 3090, don't know if it will work with yours https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HP_ProBook_4320s#Bluetooth_.5BWorking.21.21.5D20:01
xangua run "bccmd enabletx" as root - that should be all, but again I barely remember, I did it back when 12.04 was released, actually in the begining of 201320:04
xubuntu459Sorry, ubuntu 14,04 has experienced an internal error, anybody want to help me further with this?20:08
xubuntu459Sorry, ubuntu 14,04 has experienced an internal error, anybody want to help me further with this?20:09
xubuntu459E:Malformed line 51 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)20:14
nikolamnow one needs DVD to install xubuntu lts20:41
noob13how do i set up a keyboard shortcut to open the main menu?21:11
gemahello, tiping "cat /proc/cpuinfo shows that i have an AMD Sempron(tm) SI-40 wich is supposed to run at 2ghz but it shows a "cpu MHz 1000.000? shouldn't show 2000?21:14
xanguanoob13: go to the system settings, keyboard and in the shorcut tab search for whisker menu, default shorcut is control+L I believe21:15
lisa_thevalianthows come the website for handspeak.com has no video support or mime type support for xubuntu 14.04 ?  i really would like to learn sign language but not this way!  can anybody help me?21:20
holsteinlisa_thevaliant: ask them. if its flash, you may need a newer version21:21
lisa_thevalianthow do i get a newer version?21:21
holsteinlisa_thevaliant: adobe provides a newer version for the chrome browser21:22
holsteinhttps://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/21:22
holsteinyou can use the pepperflash for chrome in chromium, but, im not suggesting that is the issue.. just something to troubleshoot21:22
m1chaeli just upgraded to 14.04 LTS from 13.10(?) ... everything seems OK, although when i close my laptop lid, the laptop never wakes up.. it sounds like things spin "on", but the screen stays black... if i just walk away from the laptop- and the screen goes black- it wakes up fine.... any ideas on this?21:34
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ed-m1chael, this is a known issue with the latest ubuntu version, and they are working on fixing this22:03
ed-(also one of the reasons I changed to debian until they fix everything)22:03
ed-I believe this is your problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/128393822:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1283938 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 14.04 blank screen after wakeup from sleep" [Critical,Confirmed]22:08
ed-and here is a list of the biggest currently unfixed problems in 14.04, just in case: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues22:09
sleeziohello, i'm still on 13.10..for some reason my mouse has started to freeze...i can still use keyboard, but mouse just freezes...any ideas what could be causing it? google hasn't been much help22:39
OneWithWavesHello! Could anyone offer me some help with a keyboard setting?22:42
OneWithWavesThe Bluetooth toggle button was remapped to increasing brightness after I upgraded to 14.04.22:43
noob13xangua: ah sweet. i somehome missed that.. :) thanks23:03
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