[00:24] <sheer> cool, I might try the apparmor solution
[00:24] <sheer> thanks guys
[01:05] <starrats> Think I got my 'freezing of the cursor/keyboard/ fixed finally with the help od a couple of good nicks/friends on my other most frequented channel
[01:05] <starrats> been testing it out and all seem to be okay so far
[01:13] <starrats> anyone having/owning a Toshiba Sattelite Mod# L755D... might apreciate this info, whe should i put it for folks using or new to 14.04?
[01:14] <starrats> where not whe
[01:22] <starrats> hello drc
[01:23] <drc> hey starrats: see you've fixed your freezing problem :)
[01:23] <David-A> starrats: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport used to be a wiki where anyone could add a device and if it worked or not, but now the wiki is "immutable".
[01:24] <drc> or frozen? :)
[01:24] <starrats> yes, I believe so, my friend/nick in my other channel found a line to add in in the grub
[01:24] <David-A> starrats: the immutable page for laptops links to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam , see if that takes you further
[01:25] <starrats> no my 'freezing of cursor/kb has ben rectified, been testing it after the installation of a line in grub
[01:26] <starrats> I put in a an 'add-on to the grub line that ends in quiet splash
[01:26] <starrats> and then ran sudo update-grub
[01:56] <myke> hello, i upgraded from xubuntu 13.04 to 14.04 and now sometimes get kernel panics shortly after boot...if i don't get one within the first few minutes it doesn't seem i get one at all...anyone experience this or have info?  TIA
[01:59] <xubuntu674> Hello
[02:01] <xubuntu674> Would anyone be able to assist with the install of compiz?  I have attempted a few different ways, but it does not seem to be working properly.
[02:06] <xangua> sudo apt-get install compiz metacity compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:06] <xangua> Open compiz manager and in the decoration plugin substitute whatever is default with metacity --replace
[02:06] <xangua> Run compiz --replace
[02:06] <xangua> or it was compiz -replace¿ something like that
[02:07] <xubuntu674> I think it is compiz --replace
[02:07] <xubuntu674> I will do that now
[02:12] <PotatoHead> Same compiz guy - that sent my x window on a flashing craze
[03:18] <gryfft> 'ello gents and ladies
[03:18] <gryfft> 'amixer -c 0 sset PCM,0 20+' works great for me from command line, when I try to set it as a keyboard shortcut for xf86audioraisevolume, nothing happens
[03:19] <gryfft> any thoughts?
[03:20] <gryfft> hmmm, just tried binding a different thing to xf86audioraisevolume
[03:20] <gryfft> didn't work either
[03:21] <gryfft> it recognizes the keypress when I set the keyboard shortcut, so why not elsewhere?
[03:22] <gryfft> Mercy me, what a mystery.
[03:23] <gryfft> I guess I could just map it to something other than the volume keys.
[03:24] <gryfft> Feels like failure.
[03:24] <holstein> gryfft: try mapping to *anything* and see what is failing
[03:24] <holstein> gryfft: it may be the pass through of the commands from the hardware
[03:25] <gryfft> yeah, I'm mapping amixer -c 0 sset PCM,0 20+ to ctrl+f12 and it's not working
[03:25] <holstein> try something more simple, and obvious..
[03:25] <holstein> gryfft: then, its something with the way your are trying to implement...
[03:25] <gryfft> sounds like it
[03:25] <gryfft> I wonder why it works from bash but not as a keyboard shortcut
[03:26] <holstein> gryfft: thats bash, and this is a keyboard shortcut
[03:26] <gryfft> lol
[03:27] <holstein> gryfft: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116052/custom-keyboard-shortcut-to-lauch-a-terminal-and-run-a-command-in-unity
[03:27] <holstein> gryfft: might be something like that, where you specify where the command runs, and/or, use ""'s
[03:28] <gryfft> hmmmm, let's see
[03:32] <gryfft> it was a good thought, I might be doing something wrong
[03:33] <holstein> gryfft: i have remapped my volume control
[03:33] <holstein> maybe you should start with what you are doing, and trying to accomplish, generally...
[03:33] <gryfft> I want my volume keys to control my volume, haha
[03:34] <gryfft> got a wireless logitech keyboard, the xf86audioraisevolume key doesn't do anything apparently
[03:34] <gryfft> well. It doesn't get through to alsa I suppose
[03:35] <gryfft> it detects the keypress, because I can assign it a binding in the keyboard shortcut settings dialog
[03:35] <gryfft> but then once it's bound, nothing happens when I press it
[03:36] <holstein> gryfft: assign something else to the vinding
[03:36] <holstein> binding*
[03:36] <gryfft> like abiword, to see if I can press the same button and have SOMETHING happen?
[03:36] <gryfft> just did, still no joy
[03:36] <holstein> gryfft: no joy?
[03:37] <gryfft> no positive result, sorry
[03:37] <holstein> gryfft: so *nothing* launches from those?
[03:37] <gryfft> correct
[03:37] <gryfft> the keypress is detected by the OS but isn't causing anything to launch
[03:37] <holstein> gryfft: so, its an issue with the hardware
[03:38] <holstein> gryfft: i would bind it to something else, and not lose sleep over it
[03:38] <gryfft> fair... except... it detects the keypress
[03:38] <holstein> the logitech controllers dont promise linux support
[03:38] <holstein> gryfft: its not allowing *any* binding
[03:38] <holstein> gryfft: thats the goal.. not "Detection"
[03:38] <gryfft> it recognizes the key
[03:38] <holstein> gryfft: sure.. still not the goal, though.. recognition, and detection are not the goal
[03:39] <gryfft> right, the goal is binding
[03:39] <gryfft> I appreciate your help, I'll keep on this and report back if I find a solution
[03:40] <holstein> gryfft: sure.. im surprised it doesnt "just work"
[03:40] <gryfft> me too, I'm not the type to hit up IRC for this kind of thing usually hahaha
[03:40] <holstein> gryfft: you should file a bug, though, you should state the hardware model, and try and get someone to confirm the issue
[03:40] <gryfft> there's usually something in man or stackoverflow or whatevs
[03:40] <gryfft> idk, having a hard time buying it's hardware
[03:41] <gryfft> the keypress is being registered correctly at the OS level
[03:41] <holstein> sure, but you *cant* bind on the other keyboard
[03:41] <holstein> what can you bind? and how? on the unit in question
[03:41] <gryfft> makes me think that button's somehow reserved
[03:42] <gryfft> hm? by 'unit' you mean 'keyboard'?
[03:42] <holstein> gryfft: the one that is "broken"
[03:42] <holstein> gryfft: the one you are asking about
[03:42] <gryfft> same keyboard I'm typing on
[03:42] <holstein> gryfft: im assuming, and you should test, that some other keyboard works as expected with the operating system, and your user config
[03:42] <gryfft> I just bound firefox to the xf86calculator key
[03:43] <gryfft> pops open instantaneously like a dream
[03:43] <holstein> and you cant bind it to the volume controls?
[03:43] <gryfft> nope
[03:43] <gryfft> when I try to bind it
[03:44] <gryfft> it says in the keyboard shortcut dialog that it's bound to xf86raisevolume
[03:44] <gryfft> I selected the application firefox then pushed the raise volume key to bind it
[03:44] <gryfft> recognized, bound
[03:44] <gryfft> press volume button... nothing
[03:44] <holstein> sure.. its just that, binding isnt broken, and the hardware works.. so, what do you do? you know?
[03:44] <gryfft> no dice
[03:44] <gryfft> you fix it. >:D
[03:44] <gryfft> well
[03:44] <gryfft> *I* do, or try
[03:45] <holstein> gryfft: ideally, they would.. but, they dont
[03:45] <gryfft> "they"?
[03:45] <gryfft> this is Linux
[03:45] <holstein> if they supported linux, or said "linux support" on the box, it would just work
[03:45] <holstein> gryfft: "they" is the creators of the hardware
[03:45] <gryfft> Ehhh. I'm not blaming this one on logitech
[03:45] <holstein> gryfft: yeah?
[03:45] <holstein> gryfft: im not either.. but thats who, ideally, could address this
[03:46] <gryfft> the hardware, as far as I can tell, is working correctly
[03:46] <gryfft> this is at the OS level
[03:46] <holstein> gryfft: im not interested in instigating a blame game.. the most arguably constructive thing to do is.. file a bug, try and get it confirume
[03:46] <holstein> comfirmed*
[03:46] <holstein> gryfft: you are assuming its OS level, still
[03:47] <holstein> gryfft: you shouldnt.. if you think it is, try another linux OS.. or a supported OS to make sure the hardware is functioning properly
[03:48] <holstein> gryfft: live CD's are an easy way to experiment with a totally drifferent kernel, and hardware support scnario, while removing your user config from the equaiton as well..
[03:49] <gryfft> I have a couple lying around
[03:50] <gryfft> I'll jump back in if I find out more
[04:17] <ZippyF> can i ask for help here?
[04:29] <akis> hi all. i am running 12.04 on a 1,5 ghz celeron old system with 1,5 gb ram and 5,5 gb hd. the system runs pretty smoothly and i am wondering if i can upgrade it to 14.04 without any lag to its operation and if 14.04 could be installed on my tiny hd because i read that the minimum requirements for 14.04 is 6gb for hd (https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/xubuntu). Your opinion please?
[04:30] <holstein> akis: do you want or need 14.04?
[04:31] <xangua> maybe consider to installing lubuntu or a minimal install
[04:32] <akis> i dont want or need it except because 12.04 expires next April and i want to be updated. i am pretty satisfied with 12.04. any idea to overcome the expiration od 12.04?
[04:32] <holstein> akis: 12.04 upstream repos are up for 5 years
[04:32] <xangua> akis: 12.04 expires next april...in the next 3 years
[04:33] <holstein> akis: if you want 14.04, try it live.. should work fine for you
[04:33] <akis> xangua: lubuntu needs 8 gb and i don't want to go for a new clean isntallation, because it took me a long time to setup my system as i like it!
[04:33] <holstein> akis: lubuntu should need 8, and it would need less than xubuntu
[04:33] <holstein> !mini
[04:34] <holstein> you can always install ^ and add just what you like
[04:34] <holstein> xfce for example, or lxde.. not lubuntu or xubuntu.. then, you get support for 5 years
[04:36] <akis> xangua: what is the exact date that 12.04 expires. i am little confused. Ubuntu 12.04 expires april 2017 but xubuntu i think that expires on April 2015. isn't it?
[04:37] <holstein> akis: the xubuntu specific packages are suppported 3 years.. ubuntu is supported 5.. so, if you are running xfce on ubuntu, that is supported for 5 years.. xubuntu-desktop and xubuntu specific support is only 3 years
[04:37] <akis> holstein: upstream repos will be available after expiration?
[04:37] <holstein> akis: the upstream repos do not expire in 3 years
[04:38] <akis> holstein: i am little confused. xubuntu doesnt run xcfe?
[04:39] <holstein> yes.. but more specifically, xubuntu uses the xubuntu-desktop, which is supported for 3 years  .. along with the other xubuntu packages
[04:40] <akis> and what will happen with my system on next April. it will or it want stop be updated it? how can i check it out?
[04:40] <holstein> akis: next aprile, the xubuntu packages are no longer supported or updated.. or maintained.. but, the ubuntu core, as is main ubuntu , is supported 5 years
[04:42] <holstein> so, kernel updates, other operating system security updates.. etc.. all updates come in for 5 years.. just not xubuntu specific
[04:42] <akis> holstein: ok. that means that my system could update only the kernel but not any package (like chrome etc)?
[04:42] <holstein> akis: chrome is not in the repos
[04:42] <holstein> akis: but, if you mean, like firefox.. yes.. firefox would still be updated, since its in the ubuntu repos, and ubuntu is supported 5 years
[04:44] <akis> holstein: ok. that is clear. my system would be updated on its core. but the ubuntu software center will expire?
[04:44] <holstein> akis: no
[04:44] <holstein> akis: the ubuntu software center is upstream.. ubuntu..
[04:45] <akis> holstein: so almost everything will work as now?
[04:45] <holstein> akis: the xubuntu specific packages are maintained 3 years.. ubuntu is maintained 5 years
[04:46] <holstein> akis: there is no reason why you shouldnt try 14.04, however
[04:46] <akis> which are the xubuntu specific packages?
[04:46] <holstein> akis: the xubuntu ones.. xubuntu-desktop.. xfce specific to xubuntu
[04:47] <xangua> xfce related packages....the xfce panel, xfce file browser, xfce player
[04:47] <holstein> anything xubuntu supported
[04:47] <akis> i will try it on another notebook with a 150 gb hd to check how more space it will take and if it doesnt take more space (than this 12.04 it takes already) i will proceed on my older laptop.
[04:48] <akis> xangua: it is more clear now. i dont think that they are very important updates.
[04:49] <holstein> akis: well, they are if you are using xubuntu, and expect support
[04:50] <akis> xfce panel: i am satisfied with my present one. xfce file browser: i am running dolphin (kde!).  xfce player: i have many media players on my system!
[04:50] <holstein> akis: its not about being satisfied. its about also security updates,a nd patches
[04:51] <akis> holstein: yea. sure!. but if the core is updated isn't this secure enough?
[04:51] <holstein> akis: thats not a question that i answer for you.. i just state the facts
[04:52] <holstein> akis: im running 14.04. there is no reason for you to avoid 14.04
[04:52] <holstein> there is also no reason to freak out if you have an older box and want to keep it on 12.04...
[04:52] <akis> holstein: ok. no problem. i want avoid it. i want to be upgraded it but hardware issues may stop me from this procedure!
[04:54] <akis> i read that 14.04 will be available for automatic upgrade on 12.04 systems next July when 14.04.1 will release. Can i upgrade before that date and how?
[04:55] <sheer> hey dudes, is there a good GUI package for setting HTTP proxies?
[04:57] <holstein> akis: fresh install.. an iso.. a guides such as http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04-from-ubuntu-13-10-or-12-04/
[04:59] <akis> i know that a fresh new clean installation is the best choice but i dont have the time and the courage to setup again my 3 systems (3 pc's) !!!
[05:07] <akis> holstein: i read tha i can also upgrade using an iso image (form a cd/usb stick) (http://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/how-do-i-upgrade-to-a-newer-version-of-ubuntu). Is it true?
[09:17] <xubuntu344> hello
[09:18] <slickymasterWork> !hi | xubuntu344
[09:18] <cousteau> The program gnome-keyring being installed is causing lots of warnings in some programs that try to access it (but can't since it's not launched by default, unless you set XFCE to launch Gnome applications on startup).  This program is a headache more than anything.  Could it just be uninstalled?
[09:19] <cousteau> Apparently it's installed because oneconf and software-center depend on it...  but I don't think these programs are important
[09:19] <bazhang> if you are used to using apt-get , they probably are not, at least s-c
[09:20] <brainwash> cousteau: why not let xfce start gnome apps on startup then? it basically on launches the keyring daemon only after all
[09:21] <brainwash> and it also makes sure that the daemon terminates properly on logout
[09:21] <cousteau> well, mostly because I think gnome-keyring is a useless piece of software that may cause some headaches and was wondering whether it can just be removed from xubuntu by default
[09:22] <brainwash> sounds like a bad idea
[09:22] <brainwash> but feel free to remove it manually (and all the packages which depend on it)
[09:23] <cousteau> apt-get -s remove gnome-keyring  ->  The following packages will be REMOVED:   gnome-keyring oneconf python-ubuntu-sso-client software-center ubuntu-sso-client ubuntu-sso-client-gtk xubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <brainwash> xubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package
[09:24] <brainwash> so it won't remove the whole xubuntu desktop
[09:24] <cousteau> yeah, I know
[09:25] <cousteau> maybe I don't remove it after all (although oneconf and software-center don't seem like a great loss), but I think I may report a bug so that gnome-keyring is enabled by default on xfce too
[09:25] <brainwash> it should be enabled by default
[09:25] <cousteau> otherwise many programs get this annoying warning -- WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-jL43aq/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[09:26] <cousteau> /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop:6: OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity;
[09:28] <cousteau> it's set to not run on XFCE (or any DE other than Gnome or Unity), although I guess that "Launch Gnome services on startup" solves this (it's disabled by default though... or maybe I disabled it, but I don't remember doing so)
[09:29] <cousteau> I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 btw; maybe this has changed on newer versions
[09:29] <brainwash> so the keyring daemon is not running by default?
[09:29] <brainwash> ah
[09:29] <cousteau> exactly
[09:29] <brainwash> so not 13.10 or 14.04
[09:29] <brainwash> these version should start the daemon via PAM
[09:29] <cousteau> well, not for pkcs11; some parts of gnome-keyring do run
[09:30] <brainwash> maybe some bug report already exists for 12.04
[09:36] <dreamer> hmm, is anyone having issues with NM/networking in 14.04?
[09:36] <starrats> good morning everyone!
[09:36] <dreamer> I have a new install, 32bit. it's not getting a dhcp-lease on boot. and I'm unable to stop/start/reload/force-reload/restart the networking service
[09:37] <brainwash> what happens if you try to restart it?
[09:40] <dreamer> it says 'Job failed while stopping' and 'Job is already running'
[09:40] <dreamer> http://askubuntu.com/questions/441619/how-to-successfully-restart-a-network-without-reboot-over-ssh
[09:41] <brainwash> try to restart the network-manager
[09:42] <dreamer> there is no service network-manager
[09:42] <dreamer> although Network-Manager is running
[09:43] <dreamer> hmm, it does work, but it doesn't tab-complete o.O
[09:43] <dreamer> and it's not a script in /etc/init.d/
[09:44] <dreamer> it's not in 'service --status-all' either
[09:45] <brainwash> it's managed by upstart
[09:45] <brainwash> try "sudo restart network-manager"
[09:45] <dreamer> 'service network-manager restart' does work btw
[09:45] <dreamer> but, it still doesn't get a dhcp-lease
[09:48] <dreamer> hmm, I had to set managed=true in NetworkManager.conf, even though this was not necessary on 13.04 or 13.10 .. annoying
[09:48] <brainwash> mmh
[09:49] <brainwash> but otherwise your connections won't be managed by nm
[09:50] <dreamer> hmm, also running in to 'Error malformed file' on boot. I see this is quite common
[10:24] <starrats> brainwash:  got my 'freezing at restart' fixed/repaired for good this time, had to add a line into grub.
[10:24] <starrats> had help with another nick and he found the flaw in 5 minutes
[11:04] <xubuntu904> i just downloaded the xubuntu iso file and it has no .exe file how do i install it?
[11:14] <brainwash> starrats: and what exactly did you add?
[12:16] <svartes> .
[12:17] <knome> !
[12:27] <dreamer> hmmm, can someone tell me where to find the system-wide settings for light-locker?
[12:33] <ochosi> dreamer: the defaults are in /etc/xdg/autostart/light-locker.deskop
[12:38] <dreamer> ochosi: thnx
[12:39] <starrats> brainwash:  did you get my pm?
[12:40] <brainwash> starrats: no
[12:41] <starrats> damn
[12:41] <starrats> okay
[12:41] <starrats>  here's what I added after the line ending with 'quiet splash'  should read in grub as follows 'quiet splash i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset"  make sure this is inside the ".."
[12:42] <starrats> there's the msg and what I did ^^^^^^^^^
[12:42] <brainwash> ah, I see
[12:43] <dreamer> ochosi: hmm, I see there's also a screensaver-settings.desktop created that I'd like to change the settings from on system-wide level. any idea if I should just make a new file in /etc/xdg/autostart/ ?
[12:43] <ochosi> dreamer: i guess you could try that, but i'd look first whether there's another way, as this is a setting of xorg
[12:45] <starrats> brainwash:  not sure if this a 'bug' in the instance of folks using toshiba laptops or in general but my friend found this info in a archwiki and also in a ubuntuwiki
[12:47] <brainwash> starrats: it's a "bug" in the kernel and to prevent it from occurring you need to add these kernel paramters manually
[12:48] <brainwash> some sort of autodetection is not working properly, so it fails randomly
[12:49] <starrats> ah okay brainwash, you might want to keep them saved somewhere just in case another new xubuntu user falls prey to this 'freeze at statup' problem.  i have saved it on my comp in a few different places for backup.
[12:50] <brainwash> yes, it's nice to know
[12:50] <brainwash> but it's not specific to xubuntu
[12:51] <starrats> ah okay, that's what my friend mentioned also
[13:23] <share> xubuntu > ubuntu
[14:44] <Lax> My pc is refusing to suspend with inactivity, but I can suspend it manually.  Is there a tool I can use to see what is keeping it 'up'?  to determine how I can tweak it to suspend/sleep after an hour?
[14:47] <xboon> hey dudes, got a problem with installing wine on xubuntu 14.04: there is always a msg with dependencies and recommends which is not wanted to install
[14:48] <xboon> hope you understand what I mean
[14:51] <drc> xboon: You want to install WINE but not it's dependencies and recommends?
[14:52] <Pici> xboon: you need to install the dependencies, the recommends are optional
[14:52] <Pici> see the --no-install-recommends option
[14:53] <xboon> well it says something like:  wine1.6: Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4) is not installed
[14:53] <xboon> while using sudo apt-get install wine1.6
[14:54] <xboon> and then some recommends like fonts-horai-umefont or kde-runtime
[14:57] <xboon> with wine1.7:                    wine1.7 : Hängt ab von: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.17-0ubuntu1~saucy1) ist aber nicht installierbar
[14:59] <xboon> translated: wine1.7 : depends on: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.17-0ubuntu1~saucy1) but is not installable
[15:01] <xboon> would be nice if someone could help :)
[15:03] <amigamagic> have you tried with synaptic ?
[15:08] <xboon> amigamagic: yea, same problem
[15:09] <brainwash> strange.. you are using 14.04, but the package version contains ~saucy1
[15:10] <xboon> yes I'm using 14.04
[15:11] <brainwash> what does "apt-cache policy wine1.7-i386" return?
[15:12] <xboon> wine1.7-i386:   Installiert:           (keine)   Installationskandidat: (keine)   Versionstabelle:
[15:12] <xboon> and with wine1.7 without -i386
[15:12] <xboon> wine1.7:   Installiert:           (keine)   Installationskandidat: 1:1.7.17-0ubuntu1~saucy1   Versionstabelle:      1:1.7.17-0ubuntu1~saucy1 0         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:13] <xboon> hope you can understand it as well because it's german :p
[15:14] <msev_> ...I'm trying to compile something and i get an error -> undefined reference to `lrintf'
[15:14] <msev_> can u guys help me out
[15:15] <brainwash> xboon: mmh, I assume that you need to run "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"
[15:16] <brainwash> then once again "sudo apt-get update"
[15:16] <xboon> I'm using amd64 version of xubuntu 14.04
[15:17] <brainwash> right, but you also need need 32bit binary files too
[15:17] <brainwash> -need
[15:19] <xboon> okay
[15:19] <xboon> now it seems to work :) downloading about 200mb
[15:19] <brainwash> great :)
[15:20] <xboon> thanks brainwash :-)
[15:20] <xboon> have a nice day dudes ;)
[15:21] <Aurvandill> you too
[16:46] <adnia> Hi, is there any solution to the missing nm-applet icon in the panel yet? Data: Upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04, panel IS executed and NOT by root and only ONCE.
[16:46] <baizon> no missing nm-applet for me
[16:48] <adnia> My notification area just shows an IBus icon (which I hadn't had before), volume slider and power management indicator. nm-applet is missing and so is Skype when I'm logged in
[16:48] <adnia> But I just want nm-applet back right now ;)
[16:49] <baizon> adnia: clear the panel settings? have you tried that?
[16:50] <adnia> What do you mean exactly? I have tried to remove and re-add the notification area to my panel
[16:50] <Fohlen> hey guys. I'm an encountering "non-system disk" on my attempt to install a fresh xubuntu 14.04 via usb-drive
[16:51] <Fohlen> the image was "burned" with unetbootin. I verified the checksums already, the archive's not broken in any case. The error affects multiple tested systems.
[16:51] <baizon> adnia: i mean clear the configuration file
[16:52] <Fohlen> the error appears right after the bios load has finished.
[16:52] <baizon> Fohlen: i'm using linuxliveusb and had never problems with it
[16:52] <Fohlen> baizon: thanks. I will try.
[16:53] <baizon> adnia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings
[16:53] <Fohlen> Eh baizon, isnt linuxliveusb only intended to be used with windows?
[16:53] <baizon> Fohlen: yes it is :(
[16:53] <Fohlen> that's bad :D
[16:53] <baizon> i thought u want it to do within windows
[16:54] <adnia> Thanks, I googled the very same link myself and it helped! Thank you!
[16:54] <baizon> adnia: problem solved with the missing nm-applet?
[16:55] <xangua> so xubuntu 14.04 support message indicator stuff but doesn't support appmenu right¿
[16:55] <baizon> Fohlen: have you tried http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[16:55] <Fohlen> baizon: was the next step I was looking to try :)
[16:55] <Fohlen> baizon: moreover the problem I have is, this error only appears with 14.04
[16:57] <baizon> xangua: test it? :>
[16:57] <Fohlen> baizon: I'll see if this gives another result. Thank you for the ideas :)
[16:57] <adnia> baizon: It was solved. However, seems like it is still not shown in the notification area but it shows up when using the indicator plugin
[16:58] <adnia> baizon: thank you again :)
[16:58] <baizon> adnia: no problem :)
[16:58] <xangua> baizon: I did, doesn't work, hwever I notice many xfce applications now can hide the menu
[16:59] <baizon> xangua: i think the project is unmaintained :(
[16:59] <Sonickyle27> Is anyone free? I just started up my xubuntu 12.04 OS and now the desktop wallpaper and icons has disappeared. The panels at the top and bottom of the screen are still visible, and everything else works fine. The desktop background is just grey. Any help?
[17:00] <baizon> Sonickyle27: clear the .cache/session folder
[17:00] <Sonickyle27> Delete the .cache folder, or just the contents?
[17:01] <xubuntu240> quetion
[17:01] <xubuntu240> question
[17:01] <baizon> Sonickyle27: $HOME/.cache/sessions
[17:01] <baizon> clear the folder
[17:02] <Sonickyle27> Done. Shall I reboot?
[17:02] <baizon> Sonickyle27: log out
[17:02] <Sonickyle27> Ok.
[17:02] <Sonickyle27> BRB
[17:02] <baizon> or reboot, both will work
[17:02] <baizon> !ask | xubuntu240
[17:05] <Sonickyle27_> Just rebooted, still grey desktop.
[17:06] <Sonickyle27_> It seems that something is not loading or something.
[17:06] <ray__> does anyone know of a webcam that works on usb and xubuntu
[17:08] <baizon> ray__: most of them should work
[17:11] <Sonickyle27_> I'm going to see what happens to the desktop when I log into a guest account. Be right back again.
[17:15] <Sonickyle27> No luck. Even the Guest account's desktop is grey and blank. It's like something's broken.
[17:20] <brainwash> Sonickyle27: open a terminal window and run "xfdesktop"
[17:20] <Sonickyle27> Aha, just done that actually, and it worked!
[17:20] <baizon> oha, xfdesktop not running =)
[17:20] <DomiX> Hi, when I close the lid of my laptop and then login after entering password, I've no access of my desktop only a black screen, is this a bug ?
[17:21] <brainwash> DomiX: yes, known issue in xubuntu 14.04
[17:21] <Sonickyle27> I was looking through the "About Xfce Desktop window and thought what would happen if I ran it in the terminal. It's now back, *phew*.
[17:21] <DomiX> brainwash, too bad
[17:21] <brainwash> DomiX: see bug 1303736
[17:22] <DomiX> brainwash, thx
[17:22] <Sonickyle27> How did that bug sneak through development? :P
[17:23] <brainwash> it was reported on 2014-04-07
[17:23] <Sonickyle27> Well, I'm going, thanks for all the help guys.
[17:25] <brainwash> DomiX: I've uploaded a test package with a simple workaround (trigger lock screen on wakeup instead of while suspending), but it does not work for everyone according to the comments
[17:25] <brainwash> see comment #43
[17:27] <DomiX> I see
[17:28] <DomiX> brainwash, would you like I test your package ?
[17:29] <brainwash> feel free to test it, but I think that I should start working on a proper solution
[17:30] <brainwash> delaying the screen lock like this or even more by adding an extra delay could have negative side effects
[17:31] <brainwash> and it's still not clear, why the black screen occurs even with this simple workaround
[17:33] <DomiX> brainwash, brb
[17:33] <brainwash> alright
[17:36] <DomiX> brainwash, for me your workaround works
[17:36] <brainwash> was the user session visible for a brief moment?
[17:36] <brainwash> timings are very important in this case
[17:37] <DomiX> I closed my lid when opened the lid, I saw my user and the same wallpaper
[17:37] <brainwash> you mean the lock screen?
[17:38] <brainwash> or the desktop session
[17:40] <DomiX> brainwash, dunno why but it does work anymore
[17:41] <DomiX> I see there is some upgrade to do atm
[17:43] <brainwash> some upgrade?
[17:43] <DomiX> yes, apt-get upgrade
[17:43] <DomiX> an upgrade for the kernel is available
[17:44] <brainwash> ah
[17:46] <DomiX> bbl
[17:55] <meek_geek> a good gui app for wget ? to set proxy and all
[18:09] <Nalleman> hi, about every time I click a link the browser (chrome) asks me if I would like to make it my default browser, I click "YES" every time. Why doesn't it stick?
[18:11] <haserwa> trying to install Xubuntu 14.04 LTS, but after booting I see only black and blue-purble screeen with black box blinking....
[18:12] <holstein> haserwa: the live CD does that?
[18:13] <haserwa> holstein: i use unetbootin with live cd image yes
[18:14] <holstein> haserwa: does the live CD boot?
[18:14] <haserwa> holstein: yes
[18:15] <holstein> haserwa: so, the live CD boots fine? then, you install and get that?
[18:15] <GridCube> haserwa, you might have accidentally installed grub on the usb pendrive
[18:16] <haserwa> holstein: i see the same screen color as here http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/trusty_login-475x356.png but it is blinking
[18:16] <knozzle> Verify that the downloaded copy of the image isn't corrupt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes. Also make sure that filesystem is a bootable fat derivative.
[18:18] <haserwa> filesystem is ntfs....
[18:22] <haserwa> holstein: it boot and I just get that
[18:22] <holstein> haserwa: you installed linux to an ntfs partition?
[18:23] <holstein> haserwa: what i suggest is, do what was suggested above by knozzle .. make sure the iso you downloaded is "good" and the stick or installation media is "good".. then, install using the defaults after testing the live environment
[18:23] <holstein> !install
[18:26] <bix_nood> What version of XFCE is used in 14.10 LTS?
[18:27] <meek_geek> bix_nood, 4.10
[18:27] <bix_nood> Thanks, it has that wierd bug with desktop freezing for few seconds right after you delete a file from desktop?
[18:27] <bix_nood> Shits annoying yo
[18:28] <meek_geek> no it is not a bug at all
[18:28] <meek_geek> I did not experience it anytime
[18:28] <bix_nood> Well i have debian stable installed on my laptop but i consider switchig either to Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[18:29] <bix_nood> Would go for lubuntu because muh lightweight but i'm afraid Lubuntu lacks some things that i will have to use in the future and install it manually.
[18:29] <DomiX> brainwash, upgrade kernel did not help
[18:29] <bix_nood> Xubuntu seems like much more equipped?
[18:30] <bix_nood> Back to the topic, on Debian testing with XFCE (4.10) i had this problem, asked few people and they also experienced this.
[18:30] <meek_geek> guys when I install vidalia
[18:30] <meek_geek> and run it
[18:30] <meek_geek> it says tor's address is not correct
[19:05] <might_get_loud> guys how can i extract winrar self extracting exe files on xubuntu?
[19:10] <baizon> might_get_loud: https://blaise.ca/blog/2009/06/14/solution-extract-exe-archive-with-7z-in-ubunu-9-04-fix-unsupported-method-error/comment-page-1/
[19:10] <might_get_loud> tnx dude
[19:10] <might_get_loud> but i already tried that
[19:11] <baizon> and?
[19:12] <baizon> might_get_loud: else you could install unrar-nonfree and use the cmd
[19:12] <baizon> this could also work
[19:12] <might_get_loud> Sub items Errors: 1
[19:37] <hmagoo_> bix_nood, xfce 4.10 with xfdesktop 4.11
[19:43] <might_get_loud> guys, i have problem with blutooth
[19:43] <might_get_loud> my computer wont recognize it
[19:44] <might_get_loud> thats on laptop
[19:44] <might_get_loud> i use xubuntu 14.04
[19:45] <might_get_loud> my card is combo wi-fi/bt 4.0 Ralink
[19:45] <might_get_loud> model no:
[19:46] <might_get_loud> Ralink RT3290
[19:59] <xangua> what release¿
[19:59] <xangua> I have one of those ralinks and it got recognized in 14.04, in 12.04 I had to do something described in the arch wiki
[20:00] <might_get_loud> 14.04
[20:00] <might_get_loud> can you send me link pls
[20:00] <might_get_loud> or something like that
[20:00] <might_get_loud> or should i google ralink 3290 arch wiki :D
[20:01] <xangua> it is a ralink 3090, don't know if it will work with yours https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HP_ProBook_4320s#Bluetooth_.5BWorking.21.21.5D
[20:04] <xangua>  run "bccmd enabletx" as root - that should be all, but again I barely remember, I did it back when 12.04 was released, actually in the begining of 2013
[20:08] <xubuntu459> Sorry, ubuntu 14,04 has experienced an internal error, anybody want to help me further with this?
[20:09] <xubuntu459> Sorry, ubuntu 14,04 has experienced an internal error, anybody want to help me further with this?
[20:14] <xubuntu459> E:Malformed line 51 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[20:41] <nikolam> now one needs DVD to install xubuntu lts
[21:11] <noob13> how do i set up a keyboard shortcut to open the main menu?
[21:14] <gema> hello, tiping "cat /proc/cpuinfo shows that i have an AMD Sempron(tm) SI-40 wich is supposed to run at 2ghz but it shows a "cpu MHz 1000.000? shouldn't show 2000?
[21:15] <xangua> noob13: go to the system settings, keyboard and in the shorcut tab search for whisker menu, default shorcut is control+L I believe
[21:20] <lisa_thevaliant> hows come the website for handspeak.com has no video support or mime type support for xubuntu 14.04 ?  i really would like to learn sign language but not this way!  can anybody help me?
[21:21] <holstein> lisa_thevaliant: ask them. if its flash, you may need a newer version
[21:21] <lisa_thevaliant> how do i get a newer version?
[21:22] <holstein> lisa_thevaliant: adobe provides a newer version for the chrome browser
[21:22] <holstein> https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[21:22] <holstein> you can use the pepperflash for chrome in chromium, but, im not suggesting that is the issue.. just something to troubleshoot
[21:34] <m1chael> i just upgraded to 14.04 LTS from 13.10(?) ... everything seems OK, although when i close my laptop lid, the laptop never wakes up.. it sounds like things spin "on", but the screen stays black... if i just walk away from the laptop- and the screen goes black- it wakes up fine.... any ideas on this?
[22:03] <ed-> m1chael, this is a known issue with the latest ubuntu version, and they are working on fixing this
[22:03] <ed-> (also one of the reasons I changed to debian until they fix everything)
[22:08] <ed-> I believe this is your problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1283938
[22:09] <ed-> and here is a list of the biggest currently unfixed problems in 14.04, just in case: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues
[22:39] <sleezio> hello, i'm still on 13.10..for some reason my mouse has started to freeze...i can still use keyboard, but mouse just freezes...any ideas what could be causing it? google hasn't been much help
[22:42] <OneWithWaves> Hello! Could anyone offer me some help with a keyboard setting?
[22:43] <OneWithWaves> The Bluetooth toggle button was remapped to increasing brightness after I upgraded to 14.04.
[23:03] <noob13> xangua: ah sweet. i somehome missed that.. :) thanks