| cmaloney | Are we having fun yet? | 01:18 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | working on the camper wooo | 01:31 |
| greg-g | watching On Site With Thomas with Rowan and eating popcorn for dinner since Carrie is at a baby sitting coop meeting thingy | 03:46 |
| greg-g | also, mentally prepping for tomorrow's flight to Zurich | 03:46 |
| brousch | greg-g: Wait, there's no baby sitting available during the baby sitting co-op meeting? | 11:54 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 12:02 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 12:11 |
| mrgoodcat | gooood morning campers | 12:52 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Remote work is part of your Javascript junkie job request, right? | 12:53 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea | 12:53 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Was that personality test work-related? | 12:57 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: yea, manager training | 12:58 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: I took one at my first job out of college as well | 12:58 |
| cmaloney | I really, really hate personality tests. :) | 12:58 |
| rick_h_ | so comparing the diff (though I don't have the details of my first one) | 12:58 |
| rick_h_ | I wouldn't care but I did it straight out of college and I find the idea of reflecting on changes over 10yr ish to be interesting | 12:58 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, you've become more tolerant of wrong people. :) | 12:59 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 12:59 |
| cmaloney | Instead of complete annihilation, you've chosen nihilism. | 12:59 |
| brousch | Hm, ENTJ seems to fit you well, rick_h_ | 13:01 |
| cmaloney | It's a horoscope | 13:01 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, I was surprised the N turned to S, but then again maybe I've gotten more list-like over time | 13:01 |
| rick_h_ | to be fair, it was only slightly S vs N so I guess I play the middle well enough | 13:02 |
| cmaloney | I think you've also become more tolerant. | 13:02 |
| cmaloney | and by tolerant I mean you're not force-choking those who oppose you. ;) | 13:02 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 13:03 |
| rick_h_ | I'll take it | 13:03 |
| * cmaloney just got an idea for Darth Vader in management training | 13:05 | |
| cmaloney | OK, this is strange | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | On Reddit: someone posted http://www.reddit.com/r/progmetal/comments/24xnva/fountain_of_lamneth_rush/ | 13:23 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/oJWlln - Too Many Requests | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | hah. | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | .np squeekyhoho | 13:24 |
| bookiebot | squeekyhoho's current track - I Think I'm Going Bald by Rush on Caress Of Steel | 13:24 |
| cmaloney | I _rarely_ play Caress of Steel | 13:24 |
| cmaloney | but the Squeezebox picked it at random. | 13:24 |
| brousch | So Jython is not quite dead yet http://fwierzbicki.blogspot.com/2014/05/jython-27-beta2-released.html | 13:54 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/SiYd95 - Frank Wierzbicki's Weblog: Jython 2.7 beta2 released! | 13:54 |
| jrwren | who cares about jython when pypy is so awesome? | 13:54 |
| brousch | People who love Swing? | 13:55 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Now now now, I'm sure the folks who are interested in Java libraries would take umbrage with your statement. | 13:55 |
| cmaloney | both of them. | 13:55 |
| jrwren | brousch: THERE ARE NONE! | 13:55 |
| brousch | Good luck running your applet on pypy | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: wherever there are two people gathered there will be a magazine. | 13:56 |
| brousch | Everybody loves applets | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | brousch: ANd parachute pants. | 13:56 |
| brousch | It's Java right in your browser! | 13:56 |
| jrwren | applet? | 13:57 |
| jrwren | those don't exist. | 13:57 |
| brousch | I made a Java applet in 1997. that is well after parachute pants were popular | 13:57 |
| jrwren | i did too, in '96 or 97, was only wya to get audio on a webpage, and I wanted my webpage to play music! | 13:57 |
| brousch | Well I learned one thing from that blog post. It looks like Maven Central is pypi for Java http://search.maven.org/ | 13:58 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/UoZuo1 - The Central Repository Search Engine | 13:58 |
| jrwren | you didn't know about maven? | 13:59 |
| jrwren | java folks LOVE maven | 13:59 |
| brousch | I just encountered it for the first time when trying to build bookie for Android, but I'm not a Java guy | 14:01 |
| jrwren | i only know of it cuz I know java folks and we talk nerdy | 14:09 |
| mrgoodcat | what is maven? | 14:14 |
| mrgoodcat | a build system? | 14:14 |
| jrwren | like brousch said, its like pypi | 14:25 |
| jrwren | so... its like rubygems.org | 14:25 |
| brousch | I think maven is a build system, and Maven Central is pypi | 14:25 |
| jrwren | it can be. | 14:25 |
| jrwren | you can also use it with ant, but still trigger maven dependency mgmt | 14:26 |
| jrwren | although I have no idea how folks do things these days | 14:26 |
| * cmaloney is checking out Vundle | 14:41 | |
| mrgoodcat | i use vundle | 14:53 |
| * jrwren ddgs | 14:55 | |
| jrwren | oh! that is the new thingy. | 14:56 |
| jrwren | I still use pathogen | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | what does vundle do that pathogen doesn't? | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | I didn't follow | 14:59 |
| cmaloney | Vundle allows you to add the plugin in your .vimrc | 15:02 |
| cmaloney | It's one more layer above pathogen. | 15:03 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: I think you're the one person it's not intended for. :) | 15:03 |
| cmaloney | lepture.com/en/2012/vundle-vs-pathogen | 15:03 |
| jrwren | i'd do vundle if I were starting over. | 15:10 |
| jrwren | i'm just too lazy to start over. | 15:10 |
| brousch | Eclipse4Life! | 15:10 |
| greg-g | brousch: that'd be a catch-22, it's just getting started. | 15:13 |
| jrwren | wtf is Eclipse4Life? | 15:14 |
| brousch | That's what I say to irritate the vimmers | 15:18 |
| rick_h_ | oh, so vundle just does git pulls for you | 15:41 |
| rick_h_ | so you need a new tool to automate that?! cursed open source | 15:41 |
| brousch | Small, focused tools. If you don't like that, join me in Eclipse4Life | 15:43 |
| rick_h_ | yea, let me get right on that whole 'stab my eyes out' thing | 15:44 |
| brousch | maybe emacs is more your style | 15:45 |
| rick_h_ | already using a kenisis to avoid wrist pain thanks | 15:45 |
| jcastro | hey so I tried atom | 15:45 |
| jcastro | and it's <3 | 15:45 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: :P | 15:46 |
| brousch | OSX-only. It can DIAF until it runs on Linux | 15:46 |
| jcastro | it's more of a sublime replacement than a vim replacement | 15:46 |
| jcastro | runs linux yo | 15:46 |
| brousch | Front page has only OSX download link, FAQ says only OSX | 15:47 |
| jcastro | https://github.com/atom/atom#linux-requirements | 15:48 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/wQFR1Q - atom/atom · GitHub | 15:48 |
| jcastro | it took a while to build though, like 20 minutes on my i7 | 15:48 |
| brousch | Geez, well at least now it doesn't have to DIAF | 15:48 |
| brousch | Thanks | 15:48 |
| jrwren | I still don't know what Eclipse4Life means | 15:49 |
| brousch | It means use Eclipse for the rest of your life | 15:50 |
| jrwren | Is Eclipse like some tool for watching the moon and sun and earth interact? | 15:51 |
| brousch | Y U troll me bro? | 15:51 |
| brousch | Windows requirements for Atom are interesting: Visual Studio 2010 C++ Express, Github for Windows, and Python2.7? | 15:53 |
| cmaloney | Funnily enough it was the Atom announcement that indirectly got me to try Vundle. | 15:57 |
| jrwren | yes, I am trolling you brousch :) | 16:08 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Eclipse is a tool for stress testing your CPU and RAM | 16:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and your patience | 16:35 |
| jrwren | I probably would love eclipse if someone ever taught me how to use it. | 16:43 |
| jrwren | every time I try to learn it, I get angry and stop using it. Its unusable IMO | 16:43 |
| rick_h_ | no...no you wouldn't | 16:44 |
| jrwren | you are right, I wouldn't love it. | 16:45 |
| jrwren | I might tollerate it. | 16:45 |
| jrwren | kinda like redhat based distros... tollerable. | 16:45 |
| cmaloney | I have the same problem. Every time I play with Eclipse it pisses me off. | 16:45 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: ^5 | 16:45 |
| rick_h_ | i used it professionally and don't miss a thing | 16:46 |
| cmaloney | It's like having an entire ecosystem based on cargo-cult installation | 16:46 |
| cmaloney | (coincidentally that's also part of the reason I don't care for Ruby) | 16:46 |
| cmaloney | (though when compared with Eclipse Ruby's ecosystem seems downright professional) | 16:47 |
| greg-g | speaking of ruby: https://twitter.com/arirubinstein/status/463848382386040832 | 16:50 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/gq8VRY - Twitter / arirubinstein: curl localhost:3000/staraction ... | 16:50 |
| cmaloney | heh | 16:50 |
| cmaloney | Wasn't that fixed a while back? | 16:50 |
| greg-g | http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q2/260 this suggests not? | 16:51 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/qW0gdy - oss-sec: [CVE-2014-0130] Directory Traversal Vulnerability With Certain Route Configurations | 16:51 |
| cmaloney | Oh ffs | 16:51 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: what do you mean by cargo-cult? | 17:38 |
| brousch | Hm, got an email from these guys asking to talk to me. They got my info from GitHub and called me "a Macgyver". Looks kind of interesting actually https://www.truevault.com/ | 17:41 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/HE2DwB - TrueVault - HIPAA compliant data store | 17:41 |
| greg-g | mrgoodcat: https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=cargo+cult | 17:51 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/daQwAL - Let Me DuckDuckGo That For You | 17:51 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 17:51 |
| greg-g | damnit bookiebot, ruining things | 17:51 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 17:52 |
| mrgoodcat | greg-g: i would have probbably figured it out from the url anyways | 17:52 |
| mrgoodcat | duck duck go > google | 17:52 |
| greg-g | those "let me X for you" urls should be short urls/obfuscated | 17:52 |
| mrgoodcat | you could have shortened it. bookiebot would still have ruined your fun though | 17:53 |
| greg-g | mrgoodcat: I want *them* to do it for me! I'm lazy! | 17:55 |
| greg-g | http://ur1.ca/h9vp0 | 17:55 |
| bookiebot | Let Me DuckDuckGo That For You | 17:55 |
| mrgoodcat | haha. i think lmgtfy has a shorten option | 17:55 |
| mrgoodcat | it is nice to know what shortlinks are before clicking on them though | 17:56 |
| greg-g | doesn't look like it, but I've moved on ;) | 17:56 |
| mrgoodcat | jcastro: i'm building atom on my chromebook right now and it's SOOOO SLOOOWWW | 17:57 |
| jcastro | heh | 17:57 |
| jcastro | took about 25minutes on my i7 btw | 17:57 |
| mrgoodcat | dual core 1.4 | 17:57 |
| mrgoodcat | celeron ftw | 17:58 |
| cmaloney | celeron: impersonating a real processor since 1995. | 17:58 |
| mrgoodcat | 2793.71 | 17:58 |
| mrgoodcat | most important number | 17:58 |
| mrgoodcat | BOGOMIPS :) | 17:58 |
| mrgoodcat | this celeron is haswell based | 17:59 |
| jcastro | I am pleasantly surprised at how well the C720 runs | 17:59 |
| mrgoodcat | same | 17:59 |
| mrgoodcat | love it | 17:59 |
| jcastro | I mean, other than compiling software, it's <3 | 17:59 |
| mrgoodcat | although it could use a bit more ram | 17:59 |
| brousch | Get the 4GB model foolio | 17:59 |
| jcastro | yeah I put like 16GB of RAM in my machine for chrome, and they're slumming it at 4GB | 17:59 |
| mrgoodcat | i've got 2 | 18:00 |
| mrgoodcat | couldn't get my hands on the 4 model | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: you went chromebook? | 18:00 |
| brousch | They come and go | 18:00 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, I added one | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | cool | 18:00 |
| mrgoodcat | i'll get a pixel if i can find a good deal on it | 18:00 |
| jcastro | it's our couch PC, mostly Jills | 18:00 |
| mrgoodcat | but pixel doesn't have haswell | 18:00 |
| mrgoodcat | which is pretty bummer | 18:00 |
| brousch | mrgoodcat: Currently at Office Depot for $270 (http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/504674/Acer-Aspire-C720-29554G01aii-116-LED/) and Newegg for $265 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314406) | 18:02 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/3XQqKR - Acer Aspire C720 29554G01aii 116 LED ComfyView Notebook Intel Celeron 2955U 140 GHz by Office Depot | 18:02 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/cRY9pd - Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more! | 18:02 |
| brousch | I might get one of these http://www.pcworld.com/article/2151161/lenovo-announces-n20p-chromebook-with-touchscreen-and-300-degree-hinge.html | 18:05 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/CNcMc5 - Lenovo announces consumer N20 Chromebooks | 18:05 |
| mrgoodcat | depends on specs | 18:10 |
| mrgoodcat | i saw that yesterday | 18:11 |
| mrgoodcat | i'd like to have haswell, >=4gb ram, and a pixel-quality 11-13 inch screen | 18:13 |
| mrgoodcat | removeable ram and ssd would be nice too | 18:13 |
| brousch | It has 4GB of RAM, but the usual crappy Chromebook screen | 18:15 |
| brousch | The Samsung Chromebook 2 13" is the only other one with a nice screen | 18:16 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, the way thinkpads are going I am afraid we're all going to end up with chromebooks | 18:16 |
| mrgoodcat | i <3 cromebooks | 18:17 |
| cmaloney | Pretty much | 18:17 |
| brousch | You'll buy your thinkpad with ChromeOS or Windows. Which evil do you hate less? | 18:17 |
| mrgoodcat | just wish my kb was a bit nicer | 18:17 |
| mrgoodcat | you think chromeos is evil? | 18:18 |
| cmaloney | I wish the KB was a little more "standard" | 18:18 |
| mrgoodcat | certainly less evil than windows | 18:18 |
| mrgoodcat | gdi | 18:18 |
| mrgoodcat | i have to rebuild node | 18:18 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm running master which is v0.11.* | 18:19 |
| mrgoodcat | atom only supports v0.10.* | 18:19 |
| brousch | mrgoodcat: You run Ubuntu 14.04 on it, right? | 18:24 |
| mrgoodcat | yup | 18:25 |
| mrgoodcat | but i had to wrestle with it a bit | 18:25 |
| mrgoodcat | turned out, the kernel that ships with 14.04 doesn't work with the patches everyone's been using | 18:25 |
| mrgoodcat | but i got it all working | 18:25 |
| mrgoodcat | i also have chromeos though. dual boot ftw | 18:26 |
| jrwren | i should get one of those cheapo chrome books and run ubuntu on it | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | it can be the netbook revolution all over again wheeee | 18:27 |
| mrgoodcat | except these are actually nice | 18:27 |
| mrgoodcat | i hated netbooks when they first came out because they were all crap | 18:28 |
| rick_h_ | except for their screens, keyboards, and disk space | 18:28 |
| brousch | rick_h_: No, no. Netbooks were 7-10" at 1024x600. Chromebooks are 11-13" at 1366x768 resolution. It's entirely different | 18:28 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: oh oh oh my bad | 18:28 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: I thought you were talking about cheap laptops still. | 18:29 |
| mrgoodcat | haters gonna hate | 18:30 |
| mrgoodcat | i love my c720 | 18:30 |
| jrwren | 1366x768??? fuck that. | 18:31 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't love the screen | 18:31 |
| mrgoodcat | but we love our kids even when they eat glue right? | 18:31 |
| jrwren | i'll never go less than 1440x900 | 18:31 |
| jrwren | mrgoodcat: you got kids? | 18:31 |
| mrgoodcat | lol no | 18:31 |
| mrgoodcat | fuckallofthat | 18:31 |
| brousch | jrwren: Then you need the Samsung Chromebook 2 13" (1080p) or Pixel | 18:31 |
| mrgoodcat | neither of those have the CPU i want | 18:32 |
| jrwren | aren't those $$$$ | 18:32 |
| brousch | Samsung is an ARM CPU though, so you can all of the good stuff from Linux | 18:32 |
| mrgoodcat | haswell is way better for battery life | 18:32 |
| brousch | can't get | 18:32 |
| brousch | Pixel can be found for $850 used | 18:32 |
| jrwren | Samsung Chromebook 2 looks pretty sweet, but I'm not sure I want to run ubuntu ARM | 18:32 |
| mrgoodcat | i can get 4 of these for that | 18:32 |
| jrwren | indeed! | 18:33 |
| jrwren | get 4, and matrix the displays | 18:33 |
| mrgoodcat | atom has failed to build like 10 times now. i've tried multiple versions of node/npm and running as sudo. i even uninstalled and reinstalled deps | 18:33 |
| mrgoodcat | bah. needed to set node to use python2 | 18:35 |
| jrwren | years ago there was an X windows virtual server which would display to multiple X windows servers. | 18:35 |
| jrwren | i wonder if that is still around | 18:35 |
| mrgoodcat | oh finally it builds | 18:36 |
| mrgoodcat | slowly | 18:36 |
| brousch | Node needs Python? | 18:39 |
| mrgoodcat | jcastro: have you used sublime? | 18:39 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: no, but the build script does | 18:39 |
| mrgoodcat | for atom | 18:40 |
| jcastro | mrgoodcat, yeah it's my current editor | 18:40 |
| mrgoodcat | better or worse than atom? | 18:40 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm building atom right now but ST3 is my current | 18:40 |
| jcastro | i'ts more finished | 18:44 |
| jcastro | but I will be transitioning to atom | 18:44 |
| mrgoodcat | i like that atom is OSS | 18:47 |
| mrgoodcat | but ST3 is hard to beat | 18:47 |
| mrgoodcat | jcastro: does atom install fuck with your .profile or anything like that? | 18:53 |
| jcastro | not afaict | 18:53 |
| jrwren | git grep .profile | 18:53 |
| jrwren | will answer that quickly | 18:53 |
| jcastro | the only issue I have right now is that it takes a long time to build | 18:54 |
| jcastro | but someone can set up launchpad to build packages eventually | 18:54 |
| jcastro | oh, and the 5 second start up time isn't so hot either | 18:54 |
| mrgoodcat | i got it fixed | 18:54 |
| mrgoodcat | apm is a bad program name | 18:55 |
| mrgoodcat | since it already exists | 18:55 |
| jrwren | node-apm isn't it? | 18:55 |
| jrwren | i mean when debian packaged? | 18:55 |
| mrgoodcat | what do you mean? | 18:55 |
| rick_h_ | in the debian world things get prefixed | 18:56 |
| mrgoodcat | apm is the atom package manager | 18:56 |
| mrgoodcat | ah got it | 18:56 |
| mrgoodcat | /usr/local/share/atom/atom: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 18:56 |
| mrgoodcat | i have libudev1 and libudev-dev installed | 18:57 |
| mrgoodcat | i just linked libudev.so.1 to libudev.so.0 | 18:59 |
| mrgoodcat | and atom started.... | 18:59 |
| mrgoodcat | so i hope that wasn't a bad idea | 18:59 |
| jrwren | looks like you should have libudev0 maybe? | 19:08 |
| jrwren | its maybe becuase you are on 14.04 instead of 12.04? | 19:08 |
| mrgoodcat | yea 14.04 doesn't have libudev0 in the repos | 19:11 |
| mrgoodcat | so here's to hoping they're similar enough not to screw me up :) | 19:12 |
| jrwren | it likely is | 19:13 |
| mrgoodcat | started reading the changelog but gave up | 19:15 |
| mrgoodcat | too long | 19:15 |
| mrgoodcat | looks like mostly security updates though | 19:15 |
| mrgoodcat | and bugfixes | 19:15 |
| jrwren | it comes from system3 | 19:15 |
| jrwren | systemd | 19:16 |
| jrwren | which likely HAS had a lot of changes since 12.04, but maybe not in libudev :p | 19:16 |
| jrwren | its TINY: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/libudev | 19:16 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/5xWseP - systemd/systemd - System and Session Manager | 19:17 |
| mrgoodcat | why does atom need libudev? | 19:18 |
| jrwren | great question | 19:18 |
| jrwren | git grep udev, find out ;) | 19:19 |
| mrgoodcat | it | 19:20 |
| mrgoodcat | it's not in there.... | 19:21 |
| mrgoodcat | maybe node needs it? | 19:21 |
| mrgoodcat | nope... | 19:21 |
| mrgoodcat | now i'm confused | 19:21 |
| jrwren | WTF is CSON? | 19:21 |
| jrwren | coffee script object notation *eyeroll* | 19:22 |
| mrgoodcat | coffee json | 19:22 |
| mrgoodcat | you must have seen the mega CSON? | 19:22 |
| jrwren | i can't pretend to understand how /usr/local/share/atom/atom even ends up being an ELF executable | 19:23 |
| jrwren | https://github.com/atom/atom is all coffee | 19:23 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/wQFR1Q - atom/atom · GitHub | 19:23 |
| mrgoodcat | haha | 19:23 |
| mrgoodcat | read the build script | 19:23 |
| jrwren | which one? | 19:23 |
| mrgoodcat | actually not sure | 19:24 |
| mrgoodcat | idk how it works | 19:25 |
| mrgoodcat | Did rick_h_ make this? http://vim.sexy | 19:44 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/2ODQaZ - vim is sexy | 19:44 |
| rick_h_ | hah, no | 19:45 |
| mrgoodcat | seems like something you'd make | 19:47 |
| jsivak | good to see those new TLD's put to good use. | 19:47 |
| brousch | OMG WTF. In VB.NET you declare the length of an array by specifying it's last index, but arrays are zero indexed | 19:53 |
| brousch | So if you want to declare an 8 element array it's dim bleh(7) as whatever | 19:55 |
| mrgoodcat | so Dim students(6) As Integer actually makes an array of 7 | 19:55 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 19:55 |
| brousch | Yes! | 19:56 |
| brousch | In my case, I was declaring an array based on the length of another array, but it kept coming out with 1 empty element | 19:56 |
| jsivak | heh, *more* reasons to dislike VB | 19:56 |
| mrgoodcat | haha | 19:56 |
| mrgoodcat | length() isn't 0 indexed? | 19:57 |
| mrgoodcat | but declaring is? | 19:57 |
| brousch | Correct! | 19:57 |
| mrgoodcat | BWAHAHA | 19:57 |
| brousch | WTFBBQ | 19:57 |
| jsivak | .. actually, I have dim memories about that being one of the "issues" of porting VB to VB.NET.. they had to "inherit" some things.. | 19:57 |
| jsivak | (since the underlying byte-code is probably more like C than VB.. ) | 19:58 |
| brousch | Apparently they break language features in between releases. I have to work in VB.NET for VS 2008 right now. I wonder if they will fix this in newer versions | 19:59 |
| brousch | I'll put a comment beginning with WTF to mark this stuff | 20:00 |
| cmaloney | http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?hide_menu_area=true&GroupID=460&Code=0B47189 | 20:00 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/gMu7N1 - ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint US English | Lenovo | (US) | 20:00 |
| jsivak | heh.. "ultimate correctness" (e.g. fix in future) or "at least its consistent" (e.g. broken forever).. not sure which is better. | 20:00 |
| brousch | ooooh, that keyboard is hawt | 20:01 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: it's cool but laptop scissor switches :( | 20:02 |
| cmaloney | Saw popey with two of them (different models I think) and thought of rick_h_ | 20:02 |
| cmaloney | yeah, that's the only downside | 20:02 |
| rick_h_ | oh yea, I've been so tempted many times | 20:02 |
| rick_h_ | see, I do have the ability to resist...once in a while | 20:03 |
| cmaloney | but hey, that's one way to work around the broken Thinkpad keyboard on their stupid laptops | 20:03 |
| * rick_h_ says that while opening his new UPS box with three NUCs inside for his upcoming MAAS garage | 20:03 | |
| cmaloney | dafuq? | 20:04 |
| cmaloney | Which ones did you buy? | 20:04 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: knows what I'm talking :) | 20:04 |
| cmaloney | Oh no | 20:04 |
| cmaloney | I see where this is going already. | 20:04 |
| rick_h_ | business class multi IP service installed next tues | 20:05 |
| rick_h_ | going to have two diff networks at home | 20:05 |
| cmaloney | juju deploy nuc dafuq | 20:05 |
| mrgoodcat | wow | 20:05 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102052 | 20:05 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/BLLO9Z - Newegg.com - Intel NUC D54250WYK1 Intel QS77 2 x 204Pin Intel HD Graphics 5000 NUC Kit | 20:05 |
| mrgoodcat | i should host my shit at rick_h_'s house | 20:05 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Pretty soon you will | 20:05 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: you going to host bmark.us or something? | 20:06 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: no, it's for work | 20:06 |
| rick_h_ | well, mostly work and playing with juju/charms/etc | 20:06 |
| rick_h_ | but the goal is to have a maas setup teammates can use | 20:06 |
| cmaloney | Basically rick_h_ is going to have CI for Juju in his basement. | 20:07 |
| rick_h_ | woot! | 20:07 |
| brousch | Geez. Took me 12 lines of VB to do this code that would take 2 lines of Python | 20:08 |
| mrgoodcat | pastie for lulz? or proprietary code? | 20:09 |
| brousch | I really miss list comprehensions http://pastebin.com/NVwmcirs | 20:12 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/7GSd7L - Imports System Imports System.IO Public Class MainForm Dim PATH_TO_BOMS - Pastebin.com | 20:12 |
| brousch | I'm sure some of it due to not knowing VB.NET well | 20:13 |
| cmaloney | Python does the same thing re: length of arrays | 20:17 |
| cmaloney | That's the fun of arrays that start from 0 | 20:17 |
| jrwren | brousch: in VB.NET you can set the base of arrays per file. | 20:17 |
| jrwren | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa266179%28v=vs.60%29.aspx | 20:18 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/tFkbw5 - Option Base Statement | 20:18 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: That sounds like an excellent shotgun for an unsuspecting foot | 20:18 |
| jrwren | OPTION BASE 0 if you want zero based arrays like a REAL lang :) | 20:18 |
| brousch | That sounds like a recipe for fun | 20:18 |
| brousch | It is base 0 | 20:18 |
| brousch | but you define it by the last element, not the length | 20:18 |
| jrwren | "Basically rick_h_ is going to have CI for Juju in his basement." -- don't we all run that on our basement openstacks? | 20:19 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: But of course. | 20:19 |
| cmaloney | I heat my home with Octocore CPUs. | 20:20 |
| jrwren | octocore? i just run it on an old laptop :p | 20:21 |
| mrgoodcat | grep -r WTF . | wc -l | 20:29 |
| mrgoodcat | 32 | 20:30 |
| mrgoodcat | on most recent kernel | 20:30 |
| mrgoodcat | 15 wtf | 20:30 |
| mrgoodcat | 30 fuck | 20:31 |
| jrwren | git grep is your friend :p | 20:31 |
| mrgoodcat | apt-get source doesn't get it as a git repo | 20:32 |
| mrgoodcat | git grep WTF | 20:32 |
| mrgoodcat | not a git repository | 20:32 |
| jrwren | file a bug on that :) | 20:32 |
| jrwren | brousch: I think you can impl that whole event handler in 2 lines of code. | 20:51 |
| jrwren | Dim bomDirInfo As New DirectoryInfo(PATH_TO_BOMS) | 20:51 |
| jrwren | cmbJobNumber.Items.AddRange(From dirInfo in bomDirInfo.GetDirectories Select dirInfo.Name Order By dirInfo.Name) | 20:51 |
| jrwren | brousch: point being, LINQ is far more powerful than python list comprehensions | 20:58 |
| brousch | Looks like I should read my book first | 20:59 |
| jrwren | some of the time when I write python, I miss linq :) | 20:59 |
| brousch | It doesn't work, but I can see where you're going with it | 21:00 |
| jrwren | yeah, I don't have a VB compiler at my disposal :( | 21:00 |
| brousch | Even just AddRange eliminates a bunch of code | 21:01 |
| brousch | I'll read my VB.NET book | 21:01 |
| jrwren | yup, addrange is your friend. most lists support it | 21:03 |
| jrwren | brousch: add Imports System.Linq at top | 21:07 |
| jrwren | change orderby to just 'Order By Name' | 21:07 |
| jrwren | i found this - http://dotnetfiddle.net/ which lets me try it :) | 21:09 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/wUSSbZ - .NET Fiddle | 21:09 |
| brousch | Unable to cast object of type 'System.Linq.OrderedEnumerable`2[System.String,System.String]' to type 'System.Object[]'. | 21:11 |
| jrwren | ah, stupid combobox | 21:13 |
| brousch | heh | 21:13 |
| jrwren | wrap whole thing in parens adn then call ToArray() | 21:13 |
| jrwren | cmbJobNumber.Items.AddRange((From dirInfo in bomDirInfo.GetDirectories() Select dirInfo.Name Order By Name).ToArray()) | 21:15 |
| brousch | Holy smokes. I just added Descending to the Order By and it works | 21:16 |
| brousch | Order By Name Descending | 21:17 |
| jrwren | oh yup. | 21:17 |
| jrwren | sorry, i forgot about taht | 21:17 |
| jrwren | but ye, descending works. | 21:17 |
| jrwren | see... | 21:17 |
| jrwren | LINQ | 21:17 |
| jrwren | linq really makes other lang comprehensions look BAD | 21:18 |
| brousch | I think you condenced 12 lines of my code to 1 | 21:18 |
| jrwren | I figured I would | 21:18 |
| jrwren | cuz you can inline that bomDirInfo | 21:18 |
| jrwren | not bad for a guy who has never written VB.NET :p | 21:18 |
| brousch | You are today's champion | 21:19 |
| brousch | So that's LINQ? | 21:19 |
| brousch | I can actually in-line the first line too | 21:21 |
| brousch | cmbJobNumber.Items.AddRange((From dirInfo In New DirectoryInfo(PATH_TO_BOMS).GetDirectories() Select dirInfo.Name Order By Name Descending).ToArray()) | 21:21 |
| jrwren | yes, that **From XX In YY Select SSS Order By OO ** is linq | 21:29 |
| brousch | I was able to adjust it for another similar method too | 21:31 |
| jrwren | yay! | 21:34 |
| jrwren | saving U code. | 21:34 |
| jrwren | I R UR code savior | 21:34 |
| brousch | You win an Internet Cookie! | 21:35 |
| jrwren | https://brousch.com/+authorize-token/+login?oauth_token=:p INET blahblah 1391121668 brousch.com / 15 0 | 21:36 |
| brousch | Wow, this works really nicely now | 21:39 |
| brousch | jrwren: Thanks for the help. | 21:48 |
| jrwren | brousch: you are welcome :) | 22:35 |
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