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Private_Usermorning people03:06
Kilosmorning all06:40
Private_Usermorning Kilos06:42
Private_Userready for the long queues?06:42
theblazehenmorning Kilos Private_User 06:43
Kiloshi theblazehen 06:44
Private_Usermorning theblazehen06:44
Private_Userhey anybody here have any reading material or sample assessment questions for the role of a Senior Architect more specifically to software development?06:45
Kilossjoe07:15
KilosPrivate_User, google for that info07:19
Kiloswont be much here today methinks07:19
Private_Useryeah I have but you know google you have to sif through so many results07:20
Private_Userbefore you can find exactly what you lookingfor07:20
Kilosthats why i pm maaz and get him to google it07:21
Kilosonly 4 main results shown07:21
Private_Userah good idea let me do that07:21
Kilosi hate googling for stuff07:21
Private_Useryeah me too except when I bored and have lots of time on my hands07:22
Private_Userhehe07:22
Kiloswhen you get to a link and that needs to open 4 or 5 more i forget what i was actually looking for07:23
Private_UserLOL07:24
Private_Usersame here07:24
Kilosthere is just too much 07:24
charl_goedemorgen07:24
charl_Maaz: coffee on07:24
* Maaz washes some mugs07:25
charl_hi Kilos, Private_User 07:25
Kiloshi charl_ 07:25
Private_UserMaaz: coffee please07:25
MaazPrivate_User: Alrighty07:25
Private_Userhi charl_07:25
Kilosnot guten morgen?07:25
charl_Kilos: that's german, i'm dutch :P07:25
Kilosoh is that duch07:25
Kilosoi07:25
charl_yeah it's the same word just spelling difference07:26
charl_as mostly is the case between dutch and german07:26
Kilosdutch is a heavy language07:26
theblazehenhey charl_ 07:26
Kilosafrikaans a much improved version07:27
Private_Userlol07:27
Private_UserAfrikaans is combination of Dutch and some of the local languages07:27
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_ and Private_User!07:28
Private_Userthanks Maaz07:29
Private_UserMaaz: thanks07:29
MaazPrivate_User: Okay :-)07:29
kbmonkeyhi Golynx 07:46
Golynxhi kbmonkey07:46
Golynxi laughed alot last night :D07:46
kbmonkeywhat were you laughing about?07:47
charl_Maaz: thanks07:48
Maazcharl_: Sure07:48
Golynxnuvolari and superfly thought i'm not going to vote today lol07:48
charl_afrikaans is to dutch as esperanto is to latin07:48
charl_it's a heavy simplified dialect07:48
Golynxi'm sure i beat them to the punch already :) http://picpaste.com/52-dbdta5Vl.jpg07:49
kbmonkeythat makes sense charl_07:49
Golynxhey charl_07:49
kbmonkeyesperanto seems neat, I wonder about learning it07:49
kbmonkeybut it never caught on like it was meant to07:50
charl_nah english became the world language07:50
kbmonkeyyup07:50
charl_it's a pity we're all speaking an island dialect but hey, what can you do :P07:50
charl_it's mostly due to america though07:50
charl_hey ThatGraemeGuy 07:50
kbmonkeybusy putting ubuntu 14.04 on usb07:50
Private_UserGolynx: went to the polling stations very early I see great stuff, I still need to go07:52
Private_Userhi Golynx, kbmonkey07:52
* kbmonkey waves a banana at Private_User 07:52
Private_User:D07:53
Private_User***jumps up and down awaiting a banana to be thrown at him07:54
Private_Userlol07:55
GolynxPrivate_User yeah i wanted to get it over with asap. Went to the voting station at 07:10, with around 45 minutes waiting in the line. 07:55
Private_Userexcellent stuff07:55
Golynxits also raining here so i feel sorry for those who will face the downpoor 07:55
Golynxhope we make a bigger dent in armour this time 07:58
kbmonkeyhmmm, why cant I just dd the ubuntu iso to usb? it wont boot.08:04
kbmonkeyso then I used fdisk to make a vfat partition on the usb, and use unetbootin to transfer the iso. it is stuck on 55% now.08:05
Kilosunetbootin kbmonkey 08:07
Kilosoi08:07
Kilosjust leave it to run it looks like its stuck but gets past it08:08
kbmonkeyfor 15 minutes on 55% now08:08
Kilosoh wow08:09
Kiloswhat you using a pentium 208:09
kbmonkeyKilos, do you know what filesystem type the usb should be formatted as?08:12
Kilosfat3208:12
Kilossometimes it says suitable for all systems so thats fat08:13
Golynxhi Kilos08:16
Kiloshi Golynx 08:16
Kilosim in and out here. cutting trees08:16
Kiloskbmonkey, unetbootin shouldnt take more than about 6 mins08:17
kbmonkeymaybe its my usb08:17
kbmonkeythis is a usb I use for all my live boots08:18
Kilosi also use a 2g for all of mine08:18
Kilosi did find that using disk utility to format it to mbr then formatting to fat makes it work08:19
kbmonkeythe ubuntu.com only speaks of the "startup disk creator"08:20
kbmonkeybut I dont have that since I dont run ubuntu on this machine. lol08:20
Kilosthat has worked here but unetbootin is better08:20
Kilosdo you have some disk utility that you can use to format it and make it bootable08:21
kbmonkeyyes, fdisk08:21
Kilosok make it bootable and formatted to fat then use unetbootin08:22
kbmonkeyI did exactly that, and unet stops at 55% :(08:23
kbmonkeytrying again08:23
kbmonkeyIll try fat3208:23
Kilosai!08:24
Kilosit must be fat ya08:25
Kilosotherwise a win pc dont see it or wants to format it08:25
Kilosi go cut more trees. wbb08:25
Kilosyou winning kbmonkey ?08:48
kbmonkeynope same problem :'(08:48
kbmonkeyI want to try another usb08:48
kbmonkeybut it is tricky as the other usbs are much larger and known to have boot problems08:49
Kilosai!08:49
Kiloslol go format the sticks on a windows machine08:51
Kiloshehe08:51
kbmonkeyKilos, where on this green earth would I find a windows machine? lol08:53
Kiloshahaha08:53
kbmonkeyI try FAT 16 now08:54
Kilosoi08:54
kbmonkeyI been trying since 9:5008:55
Kiloseina08:55
Kilosget a new stick just for installs08:55
kbmonkeyKilos, it seems to be copying but jsut very slow09:00
kbmonkeyvery very slow09:00
Kilosfat 16 is very slow09:00
kbmonkeyso I will go read some jokes about bananas while I wait09:00
Kiloslol09:00
superhumanhey guys, does anyone know on which dsl network FNB connects on?09:08
Kiloshi superfly 09:08
superhumanhey Kilos09:08
kbmonkeyKilos, it works!09:18
theblazehenkbmonkey: great!09:21
kbmonkeybut why does the installer not tell me what it is doing? kinda left waiting in the dark here.09:23
Kilosyay09:32
Kiloswhat pc is that kbmonkey ?09:33
Kilosshould be installed in under 7 mins if you arent updating same time09:33
kbmonkeyit is on the desktop pc Kilos 09:34
kbmonkeynot doiing updates09:34
Kilosya but i mean specs w2ise09:34
Kiloswise09:34
kbmonkeyi686 type pc09:34
Kilosram?09:35
kbmonkeyhmmm, I dont seem to be able to not install the boot loader09:35
Kilosthats the last thing it does methinks09:35
kbmonkeyI dont need it I have one already09:36
Kilosso you can decide at booting what os to use09:36
kbmonkeyok09:36
Kilosman let it install09:36
Kilossjoe ek sukkel09:36
kbmonkeylol09:37
Kilosdont interfere with ubuntu installs, they know what they are doing09:37
kbmonkeyha ha ha ha, ha. that is good kilos.09:38
Kiloshehe09:38
kbmonkeyokay I think it is installing now09:39
kbmonkeyKilos, did you log in to that minetest game from the fly?09:42
Kilosnope not yet still gotta learn what to do but been busy gardening in between09:43
Kilosi actually forgot all about it09:43
inetprogoeie more09:44
kbmonkeywhat are you gardening?09:45
Kiloslo inetpro 09:45
Kilosremoving trees from an area i want to plant veggies in next summer09:45
Kilosfunny kinda trees that make pods with sweat fruit in and have massive thorns all over the tree09:46
kbmonkeyinteresting09:46
Kilosand wherever a seed has fallen in the last 10 years a new tree grew09:47
Kilosterrible thorns that go right through a shoe into your foot if you tramp on them09:47
inetproGolynx: I think he beat you09:49
kbmonkeydoes unity have virtual desktops?09:53
Kiloshaha kbmonkey the installer doesnt tell you what its doing because you will fiddle where you shouldnt09:53
kbmonkeythis is weird, heh09:53
Kilosyes install unity-tweak-tool and you can have lots09:53
kbmonkeysweet09:54
kbmonkeyKilos, you my main man09:54
Kiloshttp://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2014/04/24/10-or-20-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr/09:54
Kilosi also battled some. it has changed since 12.0409:54
Kiloswhat is the quickest lightest place to post pics10:01
Kilosi wanna hear what the pro says about these trees10:02
Kilossis calls it suid afrikaanse peul boom10:02
inetproeish Kilos!10:03
KilosGolynx, whats that one you use10:03
Kilospics something10:03
kbmonkeypostimage.org10:03
* inetpro loves trees but knows too little about them10:03
Kilosya but you seem good at finding things inetpro 10:04
Kilosi wanna know what it is called actually10:04
inetpromy dad was like a walking tree dictionary10:04
inetprobut I'm afraid I didn't inherit those skills10:05
Kilosya man but you know where to find things like snakes and other funny stuffs10:05
Kilosdont try talk your way out of it10:06
inetpro:-)10:06
inetproshow me a pic of the leaves and the seed10:06
inetproand maybe those thorns10:06
Kiloswhew uploading is slow10:08
kbmonkeyhe he. yes I'd like to see too10:08
kbmonkeylarge photograph?10:08
Kilosno man it cant take so long to upload a pic taken with a cell10:09
inetproupload is usually slower than download10:09
Kiloslike using windows you gotta tell it upload twice10:10
Kiloshttp://postimg.org/image/512xsighl/0dd5d710/10:10
kbmonkeylol10:10
theblazehenDo any of you hav a working VPN on 13.10?10:10
kbmonkeysjoe but those are big gthorns10:11
Kiloshttp://postimg.org/image/snul2mog5/eb50cdd9/10:11
Kilosthey strong like nails10:11
Kilosgo right through a shoe10:12
kbmonkeyI recognize those pods. you say they have sweet fruit inside? did you eat them?10:12
Kilosi think its the juice around the seeds thats sweet10:12
Kiloshave tried since teeth were pulled10:13
Kiloshavent10:13
Kilosthey like beans in the pods10:13
inetprocassia abbreviata?10:16
inetprowhat color flowers?10:16
Kiloshmm... lemme ask10:20
inetproKilos: https://www.google.com/search?q=cassia+abbreviata10:21
inetprothen click on Images10:22
GolynxKilos sorry http://picpaste.com/ 10:22
Kilosno one here has ever taken note of the flowers yet10:24
Kilosso i will next year10:24
charl_what's wrong with imgur.com10:24
Kilosty inetpro you see you the man what finds stuff10:24
inetprodon't think it is that one though10:24
inetprodon't see images with such long thorns10:25
Kilosoh my10:25
Golynxcharl_ nothing , its the same thing :)10:26
kbmonkeyimgur shows a collage of other user's uploads on the front page and slows me down, so that is why I like postimage :)10:26
charl_true that, imgur is slow10:27
Golynxits about personal preferrence really10:27
kbmonkeyanyways, looking for a tree library to see what it might be10:27
Golynxthe easiest to use wins10:28
Kilosya me likes easy10:28
kbmonkeyooh picpaste, thanks Golynx !10:29
Kilosty Golynx 10:30
Golynxnp Kilos, kbmonkey10:37
Kilosai! the internet10:38
Kiloswhat is this doing in amongst the pics of them rees10:38
Kilostrees10:38
Kiloshttp://www.italiamagazineonline.it/archives/4847/scheherazade-teatro-cassia-balletto10:38
Kilosthey definitely not of the cassia family10:39
inetproperhaps someone has the funds to install eTrees of Southern Africa https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coolideas.eproducts.etrees10:39
inetproonly R21610:39
inetprotoo much for me10:40
Kiloseeek10:40
inetproRequires Android 2.2 and up10:40
inetpropeople in this country still need to learn that lowering the price of an ebook could have the opposite impact of what they think10:44
inetprosometimes you end up selling more printed books10:44
Private_Userhey did you guys know there is a political party called the "ubuntu party"10:51
Private_Userbut I only see them in the National Elections list10:54
theblazehenYeah11:00
Private_UserI am off guys to cast that vote be back later11:07
Private_User:)11:07
Kilosheres is one of the thorns inetpro maybe they can help with the search11:21
Kiloshttp://picpaste.com/upload.php11:21
Kilosthorns on the thorns11:21
Trixar_zaI wasn't happy this morning11:51
Trixar_za:/11:51
theblazehenTrixar_za: why?11:52
Trixar_za4 hours in a cue to vote - from 07:1511:52
Trixar_zaAnd then some old lady complained that she's been waiting an hour11:53
Trixar_zaAnd yeah Private_User, I noticed the Ubuntu party too11:53
Trixar_za(and it's white leader - lolz)11:53
Private_Userback12:01
Private_User:D12:01
Trixar_zaActually let me rephrase that - some lady that had no wrinkles, liver spots or gray hair, but non the less got pushed in front of the cue, complained she had been waiting an hour12:03
Private_Usereish sorry about the 4 hour wait to vote, the voting station I went to was not busy, probably waited around 5 to 10 min to complete form since I am not in my registered district/province and then go vote12:04
Private_Userwhich area are you in?12:05
Private_Userif you don't mind me asking12:05
Private_User:)12:05
Private_Userbut there were people at that voting station who were supposed to go to another station and complained because they were told to go their registered district yet their registered voting station was like a 10min walk away12:08
Trixar_zaBrackenfell - Protea Heights to be exact12:08
Private_Userso in a car even quicker12:08
Trixar_zaWe have a lot of old age homes and properties around though12:08
Trixar_zaso guess how many just happen to pop up while we waited12:09
Trixar_zaHence my dislike of the elderly at the moment12:09
Private_Userlol12:09
Private_Userdid they not know they could have voted either yesterday or Monday12:10
Trixar_zaYes, and at their home12:11
Trixar_zaBut most didn't12:11
Trixar_zaHence my dislike of them12:11
Trixar_za:P12:11
Private_Userlol12:11
Private_Usermaybe some had alzheimers and did not realize they already voted12:14
Private_UserHAHAHA12:14
Private_Userlol12:14
Private_Usersorry to those who may have been offended12:18
Trixar_zaDon't worry, they won't remember it in a few minutes12:19
Private_UserHAHAHAHAHA12:20
Private_UserLOL12:20
theblazehenDownload finishes in 2 hours..12:22
Trixar_zaAlso it wasn't that they got preferencial treatment, but that they felt they had to complain about it that got to me12:22
Private_Useryep I also hate people who complain and are always negative about everything12:24
Private_Useryet they sometimes have it better than others do12:24
Trixar_zaWe all did complain about the fact that there was no emergency help at the place though12:25
Trixar_zaMostly when this one dude fainted12:25
Trixar_zaNow for that old guy I had respect. He was probably older than 3/4 of the 'old' people that got pushed in front, yet he stayed in line the full 4 hours like the rest of us12:26
Private_Useryeah respect some old people have some sort of pride and feel they are just as, if not, stornger than most younger folks12:28
Private_Userin the last elections I noticed that with many people that were standing in the que with me but this was in GP12:29
inetproai!14:26
inetproTrixar_za: you even make me feel more guilty now man14:26
inetproif I realised ahead of time that my mother in law could have voted before today I would have arranged it14:28
inetprowas quite surprised when the IEC officials allowed us to jump the queue with her to speed up the voting process of her14:29
inetproat least those people in our queue would not have waited much longer than half an hour14:31
Kilosinetpro, did you go look at the last link of them thorns15:34
Kilosgot a nice clear pic15:34
inetprouh?15:35
Kiloslol15:35
inetproyou last link is just a upload link15:36
Kilosoi sorry15:36
Kiloshttp://picpaste.com/Image0070-UHl7JgKE.jpg15:36
Kilosdifferent tool different method to make it work15:36
Kiloshi Tonberry 15:36
inetproyikes! those look dangerous15:37
Kilosoh its just his connection returned15:37
Kiloswhere ever they prick you burns all day15:37
Kilosstarted with one tree about 40 years ago now there is a forest here where i want to garden next year15:38
Kilosthe sheep love the pods and will leave everything else to eat the leaves between the thorns15:39
theblazehenKilos: did you hear the story about the horses that got addicted to this one kind of grass, and only ate that kind? They eventually ate it all up and starved to death15:41
Kiloslol15:41
Tonberryhi15:43
Kiloshaha inetpro look here15:44
Kiloshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/84816415:44
Kilosthats the bug from 12.04 thats been fixed today15:44
Kiloscarried over all the way to 14.0415:45
Kilosi was lucky the guys there gave me scripts to fix it15:45
Kilosnow i hope the fix doenst interfere with the scripts15:52
KilosMaaz, coffee on16:28
* Maaz washes some mugs16:28
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!16:32
KilosMaaz, ty16:32
MaazYou are welcome Kilos16:32
charl_hi nlsthzn 17:07
charl_good evening all17:08
nlsthznhey charl_ 17:13
Kiloshi charl_ 17:23
charl_hi Kilos 17:23
Kilossomeone asked why he couldnt see the auto update to 14.04 in update manager17:33
Kilosi read it will be there with 14.04.1 on the 24th june or july i think17:34
bdukEvening everyone17:34
KilosUsers of 12.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 14.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 24th. For further information about upgrading, see:17:34
Kiloshttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade17:34
Kiloshi bduk 17:34
bdukThis was a short weekend17:35
Kiloshaha17:36
Golynxhello bduk17:41
bdukHi golynx17:42
superflyevening everyone18:24
Kiloshi there superfly 18:24
superflyEveryone made their mark? Apart from Golynx, of course.18:24
Kiloshe did18:25
superflyTrixar_za: we had a couple of old folks who went to the head of the queue, but all in all I think I waited half an hour.18:28
superflyThis is in Muizenberg, so not a huge number of people18:28
superflythough I do think my ward is the biggest one in the area.18:28
Golynxsuperfly i did bright and early this morning :) http://picpaste.com/52-dbdta5Vl.jpg18:30
superflyGolynx: but I thought you said you weren't even registered18:31
Golynxhad a good laugh last night with you and nuvolari :D18:31
superflyGolynx: troll... if I ever find you, you better watch out.18:31
superflyKilos: you remember HawkiesZA?18:31
Kiloshahaha18:31
Golynxi did :p18:31
Kilosyeah 18:31
Kiloswhere is he18:32
Golynxlol 18:32
superflyhe trolled once... now's he's never in IRC :-P18:32
Kilosoh my18:32
Kilosdid he trol here by us?18:32
Kilostroll18:32
Golynxsuperfly i've been looking for a way to get you back for forcing me to spell correctly ;)18:33
Kiloshe was gonna fix my ibid greeter script with your help remember18:33
Kiloshaha Golynx jy tender nou18:33
superflyKilos: he did, one evening...18:33
charl_for trolls you must go to norway18:34
Kiloswhere was i?18:34
charl_or to sweden... like pewpewdie or regular ordinary swedish mealtime18:34
charl_they are epic trolls though18:34
superflyno, I'm just joking. he just doesn't get onto IRC much, he's actually working these days :-P18:34
Kiloslol18:34
Golynxkilos lol18:34
superflyand dancing...18:34
Kilosoh ya he was into dancing hey18:35
Kiloswell tell him i send regards18:35
superflyhttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GKRdPL1DMSY/U2nXEeOa2eI/AAAAAAAAGps/-3xL8tUZmsc/s640-no/2014+-+118:36
superflyKilos: I will18:36
charl_what are these purple marks you keep posting on your fingers18:56
charl_a new disease ?18:56
charl_or is it related to the voting18:56
superflycharl_: yes, it's a new disease...19:13
superflyVERY contagious19:13
superflyit seems that most of the country is infected19:13
superfly:-P19:13
Golynxcharl_ i first thought it was a cure for nose hair disease19:14
Golynxsadly not :(19:17
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:27
Kilosbed much warmer than here19:28
Golynxwhat happend ?19:29
Golynxai...19:30
charl_lol Golynx 19:57
charl_hi psydroid 19:57
charl_Golynx: when you find the cure, let me know ! :D19:57
charl_superfly: an epidemic !19:58
Golynxcharl_ haha will do :D19:58
Golynxhi psydroid19:59
psydroidhi Golynx 20:06
psydroidhi charl_ 20:06
charl_peer again20:15
charl_that baka20:15
charl_wb psydroid 20:20
psydroidty charl_ 20:20
charl_nn all20:28
Golynxnight charl_ 20:33
Golynxme going too , night all20:33

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