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slickymasterWorkknome: you around?08:56
slickymasterWorkknome, do you think it's worth to file a new bug against ubiquity-slideshow referring that the Utopic ISO welcome slide still referrers to 14.04 and that the last slide still holds a goat image?09:00
ochosimeh, we'll change the slideshow rather late in the cycle as usual09:02
ochosiand it'll probably need more work than those two things09:02
slickymasterWorkyes, I know ochosi, just asking if it's worth to do it, so to sort of having some kind of paper trail 09:03
ochosii guess i'd rather add an item to a blueprint saying "Update slideshow for 14.10" :)09:03
ochosidepends a bit on how we want to track our things this cycle09:03
ochosifrom my pov, the blueprints worked fine in 14.0409:04
gryhow do I add a blueprint item?09:04
gryand why do you mention .10 while the other one of you mentions .4?09:04
slickymasterWorkyeah, agree ochosi It would serve the same purpose 09:05
slickymasterWorkeven though we're still going to decide if we're going to be working with Trello09:05
ochosiyou mean trello over blueprints?09:07
ochosii'm generally okayish with that, but the whole process-tracking and buglinking can't really be done in trello09:07
slickymasterWorkyes ochosi09:07
ochosiimo we can use trello within teams, but for the overall performance the blueprints provide a good overview09:07
slickymasterWorkI'm referring to use Trello to keep track of the workflow progress09:08
ochosii guess you have to give me an example for that09:09
slickymasterWorkhttps://trello.com/b/IV66JCHl/xubuntu-qa <- ochosi, this what elfy and I use during the T cycle09:11
slickymasterWorkthat's what I was referring to09:12
knomedepends if there is a branch for utopic for the slideshow already or not09:12
slickymasterWorkI think there's already one knome. Let me confirm it09:13
knomegry, you don't, the team does that09:13
knomeslickymasterWork, would need to log in to trello to see that pad ;)09:14
* knome shrugs09:14
slickymasterWorkknome, yes there is -> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu09:14
knomegood, then i could land that change in today09:15
slickymasterWorkknome, ochosi, give me a sec and I'll add you both to that pad09:15
ochosithanks slickymasterWork 09:16
ochosii'm already on trello, so it should be straightforward09:16
knomei'm not on trello though ;)09:16
slickymasterWorkwhat's your username on Trello ochosi?09:16
ochosimy realname09:17
slickymasterWorkknome, can you please check your mail?09:17
slickymasterWorkochosi, Simon or full name?09:17
ochosifull realname :)09:17
ochosidon't you think the username "simon" would already have been taken? ;)09:18
slickymasterWorkochosi: Simon Steinbeib or am I way off :P09:18
ochosi(note: i wasn't among the first ten users to register on trello )09:18
knomeslickymasterWork, ss or ß09:19
ochosis/b/ss09:19
ochosiit should be ß anyway09:19
ochosierr, weird keyboard encoding09:19
knomeyes09:19
slickymasterWorkok, you're both in09:19
slickymasterWorkknome, another think I wanted to discuss with you is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/129928609:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1299286 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Display performance regression in Xubuntu 13.10 and 14.04 as VirtualBox guest" [Wishlist,Triaged]09:22
ochosithat's how i'd imagine it09:22
ochosibut yeah, the buglinks etc are missing a bit09:23
ochosii had a similar board with bluesabre towards the end of 14.0409:23
ochosias i said, i think it works well for smaller entities, like teams, to manage the workflow09:23
knomei think trello can be helpful09:23
slickymasterWorkthe only way to do that in trello would be to add full url's to them ochosi 09:23
knomebut the work items are pretty much the same09:23
knomeand they track bug statuses automatically09:23
knomeand everything is linked in to launchpad09:24
slickymasterWorkbut on otho you can mail directly the users with tasks pending in Trello09:24
slickymasterWorks/otho/otoh09:24
slickymasterWorkand that's a good work asset imo09:25
slickymasterWorkknome: when you marked that bug as Wishlist your intention was just to postponed it until .1 cycle or was it something else?09:26
knomeslickymasterWork, both. it's generally not something we *need* to add, or anything critical09:27
knomepeople can subscribe to blueprints in launchpad as well09:27
knomeand they get more meaningful mails09:27
knomefrom what i've understood09:27
slickymasterWorkyes, they can knome, but with trello you can set deadlines to particular tasks/members within the same 'project/blueprint' which is something that LP blueprints doesn't allow09:30
slickymasterWorkand this feature provides a better control of the workflow within a specific project09:31
knomeactually, LP work items *do* allow specific deadlines...09:32
sidi-valencialight-locker just failed to lock09:42
sidi-valenciaand prevented me from going to any tty09:42
sidi-valenciaexcept my X session's09:42
sidi-valenciawhich got opened directly09:42
sidi-valenciascary!09:42
slickymasterWorkdamn connection09:44
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knomeslickymasterWork, did you see my reply...14:02
knome"launchpad allows settings deadlines to specific time"14:02
slickymasterWorkyes knome, I had to consult the logs14:06
slickymasterWorkbut I did saw it14:06
slickymasterWorkdidn't knew about that, tbo, the team have never used before as much as I can remember14:07
knomeno, we haven't used that feature14:07
knomethe limitation in it is the milestones set by the release team in LP14:07
knomebut that's hardly a limitation14:08
slickymasterWorkwe should as it permits a rigorous control on the workflow per item of any givem project 14:08
slickymasterWork* givem14:08
slickymasterWork*given14:08
knomeagain, if people think it brings any additional value... we can start doing it14:08
slickymasterWorkwell, at least it's an added point to the discussion14:10
knomei understand why trello is good for some teams and for some projects14:10
knomewhile you've been using trello, i've used the pad a lot with other things14:10
slickymasterWorkelfy and I did found productive in -qa last cycle14:11
slickymasterWork+ it14:11
knomethen by all means use it ;)14:11
slickymasterWorkon a different subject, that Whishlist bug in docs, about VirtualMachines, in your opinion we should leave it for the time being?14:12
knomethe status just means it's very low priority :)14:12
slickymasterWorkmy only doubt about it would be where to put it14:13
knomeit it's potentially more FAQ material than something for the docs14:13
slickymasterWorkI mean, I can write something addressing the issue, but in what section should it be added? 14:13
slickymasterWorkexactly14:13
knome-it14:14
* knome sucks at typing today14:14
knomealso, i should go out14:14
slickymasterWorklol, join the club ;)14:14
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elfymornafternooneveight everyone16:01
knomehey elfy 16:02
ElderDryasg'day (it's shorter:)16:02
elfyElderDryas: indeed :)16:02
knomebbl16:04
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brainwashlight-locker article ready for the public audience?17:51
elfybrainwash: appears to still be waiting images 17:53
brainwashwaiting images?!17:53
elfyseems so17:54
elfynothing to do with me 17:54
brainwashmmh ok17:54
knomewaiting some css...18:30
elfyknome: any reason not to do the QA blueprints that you can think of? 18:37
knomethe new project lead does not wish to use blueprints at all :P18:39
elfymmm 18:41
elfyI'm going to use bits of paper and e-mail the new XPL my address - door's usually open ... 18:41
knomelol18:42
knomepractically, feel free to set up the blueprints :P18:42
elfy:)18:42
elfyknome: so - quick question is the Name box - the bit that sets the url - e.g. xubuntu-t-qa18:43
knome"it doesn't matter"18:44
knomebut do xubuntu-u-*18:44
elfyyea 18:44
elfythat was how I thought it worked18:45
knomeyep18:45
elfyty :)18:45
knomethe only name that matters is the umbrella blueprint18:45
knomethe others are pulled in automatically as long as they are linked to that18:45
elfyyep - I'm not doing that :)18:45
knomeso the only thing we want to have is a consistent scheme ;)18:45
elfyyea - well I'm just going to do the 2 QA ones -bugs and -qa18:46
knomewondering who should be the approver...18:46
knomeput yourself for now, then change that to the XPL when we know who it is18:47
elfyok18:47
elfyjust want to get them done so I can throw away another scrap of paper :p18:47
knome;)18:48
elfyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-u-qa https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-u-bugs18:55
elfyknome: ask in -release to get them registered? or leave till we have them all?18:56
knomeleave them until we have the correct approver18:57
elfyyep - I thought so 18:58
elfyalso - should -team be the assignee for the QA one - I would have thought -qa - but I don't know if this some bizarre LP thing :)18:58
ochosibrainwash: it still depends on some css changes that knome asked IS to land...21:35
ochosithe article has been ready for a while now21:35
knomehe he :P21:38
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