[00:19]  * Overboost is away: bbl
[00:22] <prodigal> If anyone needs a solution to the "no SSL/TSL" available problem in the 14.04 repo of Pan Newsreader, here it is:  I found this site that allows you to download deb files of the previous builds before the SSL/TLS drop.  Note that the ftp sites have i386 builds as well if that is what you need.  Use gdebi from the repos to install.  It works perfectly for me in Trusty.  Once installed you will be pestered to upgrade to the new version.  DON'T! To avoid
[00:22] <prodigal>  being pestered, open Synaptic Package Manager and find and hilite "Pan," and then click the "Package" menu and select "Lock Version."  I might as well add this as well:  If you want to have your Pan databases stored on a different drive or location than your HOME folder, do the following:  Navigate to the following folder:  /etc and find a file called "environment." Edit this file (you  will need root privileges) and add the following line to set the
[00:22] <prodigal>  appropriate environment variable for Pan.  PAN_HOME="/media/path_to_desired_location"  (quotes are to be included).  Save file and reboot.  Enjoy!
[00:23] <prodigal> Here is the site:  http://www.filewatcher.com/m/pan_0.139-1_amd64.deb.1286672-0.html
[00:23] <Unit193> Overboost: Please don't use noisy away messages like that.
[00:45] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[00:45] <mattwj2002> (and ladies of course ;) )
[00:50] <mattwj2002> hi again sorry I had to restart
[08:34] <dave20> hi is there any problem in installing KDE apps in Xubuntu other than having extra KDE libraries?
[08:35] <cfhowlett> dave20 nope.  go for it.  sudo apt-get install kde               for the desktop environment or kde-desktop for the full-meal-deal
[08:35] <mapps> dont think so sir
[08:35] <dave20> cfhowlett, not talking about whole KDE desktop, just a app.
[08:36] <knome> dave20, naturally the libraries affect performance
[08:36] <dave20> and using that in XFCE.
[08:36] <cfhowlett> dave20 oh that - nope no problem but as noted, it will undoubted pull several dependencies
[08:36] <knome> dave20, might even be loaded on boot/when you're not running that app
[08:36] <dave20> knome, you mean the app will auto start?
[08:37] <knome> no, but some of the libraries might be loaded
[08:37] <knome> depends much on what you are installing
[08:37] <dave20> I am trying to install K3b and Kdenlive
[08:39] <dave20> knome, you mean higher RAM and CPU usage?
[08:39] <knome> yes.
[08:39] <knome> but if you really want those applications, there's nothing you can do to stop it
[08:39] <knome> in most cases, it's not something to worry about
[08:39] <knome> just pointing out
[08:39] <dave20> I don't think Kdenlive have a good alternative though...
[08:39] <knome> well there you go
[08:40] <dave20> knome, Ok, thank you.
[08:40] <knome> i've used pitivi for simple editing.
[08:41] <dave20> knome, pitivi is a bit buggy, Ill try Openshot then.
[08:41] <knome> it is...but reporting bugs is the best way to get them fixed
[08:43] <dave20> I think pitivi started crowdfunding recently, hope the development gets faster.
[08:44] <knome> i wouldn't need more features, i'd like to get it stable as well
[08:44] <koegs> :q
[08:44] <knome> but otoh, i need video editing very rarely, so i'm not too involved with it
[08:44] <koegs> ups, wrong window :)
[08:45] <dave20> yes, hope it gets more stable.
[08:46] <dave20> also any way to add "Open with" in Thunar context menu for file and directories, "Custom Action" only lets you add a single app.
[08:47] <knome> don't think you can assign that to directories
[08:47] <knome> but it should work for all files
[08:47] <knome> if you want, you can see if there is a wishlist bug, and "me too" it, or if there isn't one, create a new one...
[08:48] <dave20> in launchpad?
[08:49] <knome> on launchpad or xfce bugzilla
[08:49] <dave20> ok
[08:49] <knome> xfce bugzilla would probably be better
[08:50] <dave20> knome, ok thanks.
[09:02] <evildead> hello all
[09:02] <evildead> since 14.04, my keyboard shortcut to switch between workspace are lost at each reboot
[09:02] <evildead> any idea what is going on ?
[09:04] <evildead> i redefined the shortcuts to ALT+F1 instead CTRL+F1,...
[09:06] <dave20> evildead, you mean this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1292290
[09:06] <evildead> ok i did not find it
[09:06] <evildead> thanks
[09:08] <evildead> i will try to clear the mapping
[09:08] <dave20> evildead, also there was a autostart script to fix that I think, Xubuntu 12.10 had this same bug once.
[09:10] <evildead> i reboot to verify :D
[09:11] <evildead> ok great with 2 clear before redefine it is working now !
[12:46] <gema1> hola, im backing up for first time to an external disk, what file system should i use for the partitions on my new disk if i want to access data "everywhere" -mac, linux, windows-. I work only with ubuntu but i want to be able to share data with mac and windows users on my external Drive
[12:47] <gema1> xubuntu*
[12:47] <cfhowlett> gema1 I've found it easiest to use dropbox for that purpose.
[12:48] <knozzle> I use exFAT for those purposes. It is as versatile as fat, but without the small file restrictions.
[12:48] <gema1> but i lost all my data, so im gonna be going collecting many data from my friends that uses multiple os, im talking about GBs of data, many personal pictures, i dont want to use cloud services
[12:49] <gema1> what is the biggest silefile in exFAT? may i use permisions on folders or should i encrypt confidential?
[12:49] <gema1> may exFAT encrypt a folder by default?
[12:50] <knozzle> I would suggest taking a look at the wiki article for exFAT for further information.
[12:50] <gema1> doing so, thank you
[12:51] <knozzle> There is also a very detailed wiki page for file encryption on the Arch wiki (which can easily be modified for Ubuntu derivative usage)
[12:51] <knozzle> Now that TrueCrypt has been audited and found to be safe, I would use that for your sensitive information.
[12:56] <azim> join #conky
[13:10] <cousteau> is it hard to change the default file manager?  I don't quite like Thunar
[13:10] <cousteau> in Xubuntu 12.04 I've changed the default FM to Nautilus; however whenever I insert a memory stick or double-click a desktop folder Thunar opens instead
[13:11] <cfhowlett> cousteau same thing here.  never did find a fix ...
[13:11] <cousteau> and I don't know if newer versions have made this easier or harder (or stayed the same)
[13:13] <cousteau> for example, I was told that Gnome has been made independent from the file manager, so you can really set whichever you want
[13:14] <cousteau> I've always liked Nautilus and Gnome, so I was considering installing XFCE with PCManFM (which seems to be the closest thing to that nowadays)
[13:15] <Lawren> hi all
[13:16] <Lawren> I am having issues connecting a bluetooth speaker with mic (basically a headset) to my xubuntu machine. First time it work, but now it always says Connection failed when i try to connect.
[13:16] <Lawren> how do i diagnose further? are there any logs about what is happening?
[13:23] <gema1> i cant part on extfat with gparted, do i need adittional software in my xubuntu to create extFat partitions on an external disk?
[13:23] <gema1> the option in Gparted to format to many diferent formats is greyout
[13:26] <noob13> hey, if i install xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, will i get doubled menu entries like when i did it before on gnome2?
[13:26] <brainwash> gema1: install exfat-utils
[13:28] <cfhowlett> noob13 if you install only xfce3 you get the desktop environment without the apps.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> xfce4
[13:30] <gema1> brainwash: installed exfat-utils, do i need to part with those utils? gparted optios still geyout (maybe just a reboot to be able to part with gparted? i do not have experience in console
[13:30] <gema1> grayout*
[13:31] <brainwash> I would assume that gparted notices exfat-utils
[13:31] <gema1> then im rebooting, brb
[13:31] <brainwash> reboot won't hurt :)
[13:38] <gema1> the utils did not make the job, it seems i can only detect and move or copy and extFat but i can create them, any option?
[13:40] <gema1> i've being recomended to use extFat for my portable backups drive, but i cant create partitions with gparted in this format. How can I part my disk to extFat, will my xubuntu read files in extFat by default, or do i need to install something?
[13:41] <gema1> i was suggested exFat to make data readable by default with linux, windows and mac
[13:44] <knozzle> gemal: it's exFat, not extFat.
[13:44] <brainwash> gema1: mmh, sadly it's not possible with gparted
[13:44] <brainwash> see http://gparted.org/features.php
[13:46] <knozzle> You will need exfat-utils and use the mkexfatfs command or mkfs.exfat command.
[13:46] <gema1> yes i visited that link berfore reanswering
[13:46] <gema1> may i with fdisk or something? will data be redeable by refault in all those 3 OS?
[13:47] <gema1> should i just keep creating in NTFS to make it easy?
[13:50] <brainwash> ntfs is a solid option
[13:51] <brainwash> not sure if macs can write to ntfs by default
[13:51] <gema1> and by installing the utils will created extfat partitions be mounted and redeable?
[13:52] <gema1> after  making te partitions with those commands of course
[13:52] <brainwash> they should, at least under windows and mac
[13:52] <noob13> cfhowlett: okay, thanks. will it still come with things like the theme editor and stuff?
[13:53] <cfhowlett> noob13 xfce4?
[13:53] <noob13> yeah
[13:53] <brainwash> gema1: linux may require the installation of exfat-fuse
[13:54] <brainwash> not sure if it's already installed by default
[13:54] <cfhowlett> noob13 never seen the xfce theme editor ... but there are themes and options to choose from
[13:55] <brainwash> noob13: you can install xubuntu-desktop first and then remove apps which you don't like/need
[14:07] <xubuntu904> Ciao!...non riesco ad installare una multifunzione epson sx-205..qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[14:08] <Pici> !it
[14:29] <bosnjak> where does blueman store its logs? I am trying to figure out why I can't connect to my device
[14:35] <gema1> brainwash, yes exfat-fuse is installed by default
[15:18] <Fohlen> hey guys. I installed a fresh 14.04 and copied my old settings from 13.04, which has overriden the new menu
[15:18] <Fohlen> any possibility to get it anyways?
[15:18] <Fohlen> I liked the search bar n stuff
[15:18] <xangua> just add the whisker menu
[15:19] <Fohlen> xangua: how could I "reset" the stuff? Do I need to delete files from .config/ ?
[15:20] <xangua> right clic panel add stuff
[15:21] <Fohlen> ah thank you sir! :)
[15:22] <Fohlen> also. Since I installed nvidia graphic drivers, the bootloader seems a bit uggly, and the pretty blue load screen doesnt show up any more. Any tipp?
[15:25] <knome> as far as we know, plymouth is not working with the proprietary nvidia drivers
[15:27] <ElderDryas> knome: Is there any way to install w/o plymouth (a la Solydxk)?
[15:29] <knome> ElderDryas, i have no idea, not with the standard installation at least
[15:29] <knome> and that would lose you the "pretty blue load screen" anyway
[15:29] <gema1> puff, i try learning but is to dificult for me to create extFat partitions with exfat-utils, im not and advanced linux user. is there a graphical tool (similar to gparted) to create extFat partitions on a disk?
[15:30] <ElderDryas> knome:  yeah, but I also run nvidia...so it's a wash :)
[15:31] <ElderDryas> knome: would it be worthwhile to put in a wishlist...or would just be a waste of time?
[15:31] <knome> ElderDryas, put what in the wishlist?
[15:31] <ElderDryas> no plymouth on install.
[15:31] <knome> there isn't much we can do about it not working with the proprietary nvidia drivers
[15:31] <knome> ehm, well, you'd need some other boot screen anyway.
[15:32] <knome> so yeah, pretty much a waste of time...
[15:32]  * ElderDryas likes the scrolling test telling me what's going on :)
[15:32] <ElderDryas> s/test/text
[15:32] <cousteau> Fohlen, for resetting configurations I guess you'd have to figure out which file/directory (probably somewhere inside ~/.config) contains them and then rename it
[15:33] <cousteau> (better renaming than deleting, in case you end up deleting the wrong thing)
[15:33] <knome> ElderDryas, you are a corner case, you can just remove plymouth ;)
[15:33]  * ElderDryas wonders why he always gets sent to the corner, it's just not fair :(
[15:34] <gema1> if i make my partitions, ext4, do windows and mac has free (open source) or freeware utilites to read and write on ext4?
[15:34] <ElderDryas> and I think the PC phrase now is "outlier" :)
[15:36] <knome> gema1, having googled for it quickly, there seems to be many tools. no idea how well they work though.
[15:41] <cousteau> gema1, I know there are tools for ext2/3; about ext4 I haven't seen much, but iirc there was something at least to read them
[15:42] <GridCube> usually same tools that work for ext3 work for ext4
[15:42] <GridCube> usually
[15:43] <gema1> so defitly is to diffiuclt for me to part through console,  so my only choices is use a grafical tool to part my disk. From the options (ot exfat posible), ntfs or ext4 would be the best choices. Which is most accesible trought windows and mac please?
[15:43] <cousteau> http://www.howtogeek.com/112888/3-ways-to-access-your-linux-partitions-from-windows/  ->  Ext2explore seems particularly interesting since it's install-less and thus could be stored in a memory stick
[15:44] <cousteau> needs admin permissions to run, though
[15:44] <cousteau> oh, but it doesn't mount stuff, just allows you to copy it
[15:45] <knome> gema1, i wouldn't install linux on ntfs. is there a specific reason you need ext4 over ext3 ?
[15:48] <SAKUJ0> hey there. when I have XFCE(Xubuntu) running, I cannot log out. When I turn off my tv and turn it on I get a black screen (not when I swap to TTY1-6) why could that be?
[15:48] <SAKUJ0> if i use for instance XBMC as a session this black screen issue does not occur
[15:49] <gema1> no
[15:49] <knome> gema1, then go with ext3, since it seems to be supported better in windows
[15:49] <knome> SAKUJ0, which xubuntu release?
[15:49] <gema1> i mean, no reason about ext4 or ext3, i know so lees about that i just asummed ext4 would be the last version, thous better hehe
[15:50] <gema1> pertect, then i will just part my hard disk to ext3 partitions
[15:50] <SAKUJ0> er i upgraded yesterday from ubuntu 11.10, knome, and am fully updated at ubuntu 14.04 and installed xubuntu-desktop
[15:51] <SAKUJ0> i just tried out openbox, it fixes it
[15:51] <knome> SAKUJ0, read the release notes for a bug that's most probably what you are experiencing
[15:52] <SAKUJ0> thank you (: will do. i am not desperate anymore since openbox does fine on an HTPC. i am just so much of an XFCE fan and my gf appreciates her desktops haha
[16:03] <SAKUJ0> I suppose you were referring to "Xfce4 Power Manager does not restore screen power (1259339), see the release notes for details and workarounds"?
[16:04] <SAKUJ0> yeah it seems that is
[16:04] <knome> SAKUJ0, yep.
[16:04] <SAKUJ0> so does it actually suspend? (as in go to standby?)
[16:05] <SAKUJ0> like the standard windows setting when you close a laptop lid
[16:05] <SAKUJ0> and it goes to sleep mode
[16:05] <SAKUJ0> oh lord glad to found out the issue that pained me :p
[16:06] <SAKUJ0> any ideas as to why my log out would not work? it simply does nothing
[16:19] <brainwash> SAKUJ0: please open a terminal window and run "xfce4-session-logout --logout"
[16:20] <brainwash> which error does it return?
[16:22] <SAKUJ0> no error
[16:22] <SAKUJ0> that one works
[16:23] <SAKUJ0> weird, did not expect that
[16:23] <SAKUJ0> is it normal that xfpm starts with the system now? (even before i log into xfce)
[16:23] <brainwash> no
[16:24] <SAKUJ0> hmm it probably starts when i first boot into xfce i haven't restarted the machine in a day or so
[16:24] <brainwash> and how do you usually logout? or was it only a temporary issue?
[16:24] <SAKUJ0> it is not really an issue so far i have shut down everything and restarted lightdm
[16:24] <brainwash> ok
[16:24] <SAKUJ0> right now the issue is that my screen stays black when i turn off my tv and killing gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver did not help
[16:25] <SAKUJ0> light-locker seems off after i turned it out
[16:25] <SAKUJ0> so the only things causing this issue should be xfpm or upowerd
[16:25] <brainwash> ah, sounds somewhat familiar
[16:25] <SAKUJ0> yeah it is in the release notes
[16:25] <SAKUJ0> i don't know why i bother with it right now :p for an htpc openbox is at least as good (my gf wouldn't like it that much). i just have a rush of solveritis :p
[16:26] <SAKUJ0> probably something that fixes itself in a release or so or maybe even a few updates
[16:27] <brainwash> so it's a multi monitor setup?
[16:27] <SAKUJ0> no
[16:28] <SAKUJ0> just one big tv on a small box htpc setup
[16:28] <brainwash> so turning the tv off and on does not work properly?
[16:28] <SAKUJ0> exactly, it is a known issue from the release notes
[16:28] <SAKUJ0> people have been using the same workaround (restart lightdm)
[16:28] <brainwash> the known issues one is related to suspending via lid close (laptop)
[16:28] <SAKUJ0> though for others it got solved by killing light-locker, which is weird
[16:29] <SAKUJ0> hmm good point, they all seemed to have laptops when i read through the bug reports
[16:30] <brainwash> and let me guess, your problem does not occur when you turn the tv off/on while the login screen is visible, right?
[16:31] <SAKUJ0> you are absolutely right
[16:31] <SAKUJ0> it does not occur with openbox/XBMC as a session either
[16:31] <SAKUJ0> just once i log into xfce
[16:31] <SAKUJ0> even when i kill xfpm and all screensaver processes
[16:32] <brainwash> ah, so it should be caused by xfce4-session
[16:32] <brainwash> ehm, xfce4-settings
[16:32] <brainwash> the settings daemon (xfsettingsd)
[16:33] <brainwash> which also handles display configurations
[16:33] <SAKUJ0> should i try killing it and see if that helps? :p
[16:34] <SAKUJ0> it is really not a big issue at this point btw, i appreciate your help. just thought maybe there is a minor glitch to be found that could be reported
[16:34] <brainwash> see http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/xfsettingsd
[16:34] <brainwash> run the debug command
[16:34] <SAKUJ0> before or after i login?
[16:34] <SAKUJ0> i suppose after?
[16:34] <SAKUJ0> so it replaces the daemon?
[16:35] <brainwash> it may not be a big deal, but filing a bug report will help the devs to fix it
[16:35] <brainwash> yes, the daemon will be replaced
[16:35] <brainwash> and it should print some debug info in the terminal window
[16:48] <SAKUJ0> yes it is a bit rough to get the full debug info though. for some reason i cannot talk to DISPLAY=0 via TTY1. So i only have the debug information until i turn off the tv
[16:48] <SAKUJ0> and when i restart lightdm it prints everything to TTY1 but again it is hard to parse it
[16:48] <SAKUJ0> piping the output to a logfile does not work either
[16:49] <SAKUJ0> a strange thing, though. when i swap to TTY1-6 and turn off my tv it do not get a black screen :p
[16:53] <might_get_loud> what is default picture viewer on xubuntu and how can i run it from terminal?
[16:56] <xangua> gpicwiev maybe?
[16:56] <xangua> I like vienoir, is not in the repositories but the site offers a deb
[16:56] <xangua> viewnoir
[16:58] <Fohlen> anyone could give me feedback about this? http://techhamlet.com/2012/11/ubuntu-fix-ugly-splash-screen-after-installing-nvidia/
[16:58] <Fohlen> is it common way of fixing a grub error? Or will it cause a mess?
[17:05] <cousteau> might_get_loud, in mine it is Ristretto
[17:06] <cousteau> surprisingly, the command is ``ristretto``
[17:06] <cousteau> I prefer gthumb as an image viewer though
[17:06] <might_get_loud> cousteau i tried it and it worked
[17:07] <cousteau> nice :)
[17:07] <might_get_loud> thanks, i was just looking for command to open images via terminal
[17:08] <might_get_loud> and didnt manage to find name of img viewer
[17:08] <might_get_loud> :D
[17:08] <GridCube> might_get_loud, exo-open /path/to/image.format
[17:08] <GridCube> though exo-open will try to open any .format in the .format handler
[17:09] <might_get_loud> exo-open is open via default program for format?
[17:09] <GridCube> yes
[17:09] <GridCube> so if you do "exo-open /path/to/file.html" it will launch your browser
[17:10] <might_get_loud> ok, thanks dude
[17:11] <cousteau> xdg-open may work too (can't remember the difference between the two)
[17:11] <GridCube> exo-open is xfce, xdg is xorg
[17:11] <cousteau> I see
[17:11] <GridCube> !info xdg-open
[17:11] <GridCube> :P
[17:12] <GridCube> !info exo-open
[17:12] <cousteau> no idea why there was a need to create the two
[17:12] <cousteau> !man xdg-open
[17:12] <GridCube> cousteau, no idea
[17:12] <cousteau> ubottu, y u no have manpages!
[17:12] <brainwash> !info xdg-utils
[17:12] <might_get_loud> haha
[17:13] <GridCube> there, i stand corrected, xdg is freedesktop, not xorg
[17:13] <cousteau> well, I assumed you meant freedesktop; it's the people who usually do this sort of thing
[17:26] <akis> hi all. does anyone have idea how can i delete all informations of a file?
[17:27] <xubuntu408> somebody here?
[17:27] <xubuntu408> hi
[17:28] <xubuntu408> problems with 14.04- high cpu usage with update service
[17:28] <ElderDryas> xubuntu408: You need to be a little more specific and detailed.
[17:28] <xubuntu408> after i close this service one from the two cpu stay on 100%
[17:29] <xubuntu408> without this is normal
[17:34] <might_get_loud> is there any way to lock screen but to leave background apps running
[17:34] <might_get_loud> like firefox or so
[17:35] <TheSheep> sure, just lock the screen
[17:35] <amigamagic> there is a screen lock icon in the whisker menu
[17:35] <might_get_loud> i know but when i click on that it stop music reproduction from firefox tab
[17:36] <SAKUJ0> if i run thunar --daemon auto mount works (i plug in something new, it gets mounted). but the stuff that is already plugged in on boot is not mounted (so i have to plug it out and back in or i have to click them in order to have them mounted)
[17:36] <SAKUJ0> is there a command like gvfs-mount all or similar?
[17:49] <brainwash> might_get_loud: go to settings manager > light locker settings  and change the option "automatically lock the session" to "... is deactivated"
[17:50] <brainwash> now music will stop only when you move the mouse to reveal the unlock screen
[17:53] <brainwash> this will only affect timed locking though :/
[19:39] <delt> Hello
[19:40] <delt> i believe the "black screen on laptop close" bug is a bug in xfce, since it also occurs in linux mint xfce edition.
[20:02] <xubuntu635> Hello there! Just installed Xubuntu 14.04. This version does not have a default update notification icon in the panel. Does anyone know if this can be added. Personally, I like this more than now default method (Update Manager opening when updates are available).
[20:05] <brainwash> xubuntu635: sadly no
[20:05] <brainwash> bug 1246364
[20:05] <larrypg> xubuntu635, from a terminal you can always run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade when ever you want - it is very simple and will let you check for updates when ever you think of it
[20:13] <xubuntu635> Ok thanks. apt-get update and apt-get upgrade is ok for me, but I also install for other people and they need a graphic way of checking for and installing updates. I have already installed a launcher for Update Manager in the Panel but still would like a notification icon. , I understand it is actually a choice of design and there is no way to get it back. Thanks for replying!
[20:26] <aStaRiAm> hello
[20:29] <amigamagic> is there a way to stop permanently a service without uninstall it? I mean, when I need it I would like to activate it without having to reinstall its package.
[20:30] <amigamagic> I tried with "sudo service MYSERVICE stop" and it works, but after rebooting, you would have to re-enter that command to disable the service
[20:35] <elfy> amigamagic: ticked answer could be just what you mean http://askubuntu.com/questions/378869/how-to-remove-a-service-that-not-be-enabled-after-reboot
[20:37] <amigamagic> thanks elfy, I will look at it. Btw, do you know how to 'autostart' a command when you login?
[20:38] <elfy> not commands - but I've a few things I run from autostart
[20:38] <amigamagic> for applications is easy: you can  save the session when log out
[20:39] <elfy> I don't always want session saved - there are things I DO want started each time - devilspie for instance
[20:39] <amigamagic> but if I wonder how could I do, if I would like to execute a script or a command
[20:39] <amigamagic> *don't consider the first 'if' :D
[20:40] <elfy> you can do that - I have one that runs when I login
[20:40] <elfy> I just point to it in autostart apps
[20:40] <amigamagic> autostart apps? It's a folder?
[20:41] <elfy> session and startup - app autostart
[20:42] <amigamagic> oh nice, there is an option in the system settings... I hadn't see that...
[20:43] <amigamagic> *see = seen
[20:51] <amigamagic> elfy, it was not the accepted answer in that link that you posted, but I tried the 'rcconf' (Debian Runlevel Configuration Tool) and it's perfect! It displays a textual menu when you can select in a very easy way what service you want to enable/disable.
[22:08] <dave20> hello, how to have only 1 workspace in Xubuntu? I am having 2.
[22:10] <dave20> Oh Ok, Sorry, I have found options in Settings :D
[22:10] <ElderDryas> right click on Workspace Switcher>WorkSpace Settings
[22:14] <dave20> how to enable window snapping in left an right side? only top and bottom are working.
[22:26] <dave20> any way to get window spread in xfwm4 itself without installing compiz or kwin ?
[22:33] <noob13> my mouse pointer theme only applies over certain apps? when i hover over panels or thunar, it's normal, on chrome and terminator it's like said in settings
[22:33] <noob13> any idea?
[22:35] <xangua> since thunar draws the desktop you pretty much need to restart your session or kill thunar
[22:47] <xubuntu666> i have a question about built in webcams. i have a Toshiba laptop and was going to install Xubuntu, but was wondering about the built in webcam. Will there be any issues with it working properly?
[22:48] <knome> try it in the live mode
[22:48] <xubuntu666> i wasn't sure if all features would be available in live mode. i'll give it a try.
[23:02] <starrats> I have a Toshiba and my camera on works just fine.
[23:26] <veebull> howdy
[23:26] <veebull> anybody know of a simple way to change the icon for the whisker menu?
[23:27] <knome> veebull, right-click -> properties -> icon?
[23:27] <knome> or is that too tedious?
[23:28] <veebull> It was way simpler than I was expecting ;)
[23:28] <veebull> Thank you for reminding me why I immigrated back to xfce from unity ;)
[23:28] <knome> upi
[23:29] <knome> err.
[23:29] <knome> you're welcome.
[23:38] <veebull> Next up
[23:38] <veebull> For some reason, XFCE/Xubuntu puts 'R' (statistical scripting language) in the 'Graphics' menu
[23:39] <veebull> Been trying to un-do that, using right-click -> Edit Applications, then adding a category and removing 'Graphics' for that menu entry
[23:40] <veebull> but when I save the launcher, it just adds 'Graphics' back in.
[23:42] <knome> veebull, bug 1307002
[23:42] <veebull> Ah.  Thought I was doing something wrong.
[23:43] <ElderDryas> veebull:  copy the .desktop from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications, open it with an editor and change the "Categories" to waht you want.
[23:43] <veebull> ElderDryas, will do, thanks!