| mitya57 | Riddell: yes, please upload, I don't have upload rights for it. | 04:07 |
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| soee | good morning | 06:12 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:50 |
| apachelogger | wgrant: can you please give these two builds a score bump https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/taskmanager-qml/+build/5987612 https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/taskmanager-qml/+build/5987613 | 08:02 |
| wgrant | apachelogger: Done | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | wgrant: thanks | 08:03 |
| wgrant | Though they're mostly behind KDE builds anyway :P | 08:03 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1089483] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package kde-runtime-d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1089483 (by Richel Bilderbeek) | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | wgrant: oh, what do we have queued? | 08:04 |
| wgrant | I saw a lot of neon stuff earlier. | 08:04 |
| wgrant | Maybe it's cleared now | 08:04 |
| apachelogger | should be, they get triggered at 3 UTC I think | 08:05 |
| wgrant | The queues are pretty awful atm, so you never know. | 08:05 |
| apachelogger | indeed, I saw a build that was in queue for 10 hours ^^ | 08:06 |
| apachelogger | valorie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/SystemDocumentation?highlight=%28CategoryKubuntuUseful%29 <- isn't that CategoryKubuntuRubbish? | 08:08 |
| apachelogger | seems to be about the legacy docs setup | 08:08 |
| valorie | it should not be moved | 08:08 |
| valorie | but I wish there was a way to save it... perhaps I'll just copy to a text file | 08:09 |
| apachelogger | well, instead of deleting it I can mark it deprecated | 08:09 |
| valorie | that would work | 08:10 |
| apachelogger | internally its search matches will be down scored but the data is still there | 08:10 |
| apachelogger | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lp5a-r3MJU | 08:22 |
| apachelogger | the internet is a very strange place | 08:22 |
| apachelogger | valorie: what do I do with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Documentation?highlight=%28CategoryKubuntuRubbish%29 | 08:24 |
| valorie | wow | 08:24 |
| apachelogger | that actually seems like a duplication of the other page to begin with Oo | 08:24 |
| valorie | burn it with fire | 08:24 |
| * apachelogger uses the mighty flamethrower | 08:25 | |
| valorie | that song seems to have been written to accompany the image of the octopus | 08:27 |
| valorie | so strange.... | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYK2i2tR7gU this video OTOH raises the question how many people get eaten by octopuses every year | 08:30 |
| valorie | giant squid will kill and eat a whale.... | 08:31 |
| valorie | oh my, octopus hickeys | 08:32 |
| apachelogger | makes for peculiar office talk | 08:32 |
| valorie | that there is a name for a band | 08:33 |
| apachelogger | first hit single "little octopus climbing over rock" | 08:34 |
| valorie | better than Men With Hats | 08:35 |
| valorie | or Trololo | 08:35 |
| valorie | detachable penis though, not better than that | 08:35 |
| * apachelogger nods | 08:37 | |
| apachelogger | I think the kubuntu membership page needs some updatery and bringing in line with reality | 08:38 |
| apachelogger | such as: not requiring a wiki page that no one will read and then be outdated the rest of eternity | 08:38 |
| valorie | I update my page! | 08:39 |
| Riddell | I find a wiki page really helpful when doing memberships | 08:39 |
| valorie | sometimes..... | 08:39 |
| valorie | it is personal advertising | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, but couldn't people just as well throw that on lunchpad itself? | 08:39 |
| valorie | on launchpad? | 08:39 |
| valorie | where | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | tehre's an about field | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | or there used to be one | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | valorie: right at the top of your user page :P | 08:40 |
| valorie | well, I like the space to fill in details | 08:41 |
| valorie | because I forget what years I did things, etc. | 08:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I guess so, or a blog or whatever | 08:41 |
| apachelogger | valorie: I don't think a lot of people actually track stuff like that | 08:41 |
| valorie | a blog would be good too | 08:41 |
| valorie | because then we can use them for advertising cool kub. stuff | 08:42 |
| apachelogger | my general point is: a wiki page is not much advertising outside the membership process | 08:42 |
| valorie | true | 08:42 |
| valorie | at one time I was more enthused about the whole ubuntu community | 08:42 |
| valorie | but now I stick more to my favorite places | 08:42 |
| valorie | such as here | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | and youtube | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm368W0OsHo | 08:43 |
| valorie | bbiam | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | also youtube annotations kill kittens | 08:43 |
| * apachelogger argues that wiki move is complete | 08:44 | |
| apachelogger | oh, the developers page is still missing | 08:45 |
| shadeslayer | hi | 08:51 |
| Peace- | hi shadeslayer | 08:54 |
| * Peace- reads about lxqt 0.7 pubblic release | 08:54 | |
| shadeslayer | yofel: re symbols from last night, debian/libkdecorations4abi2.symbols needs redoing right? | 08:55 |
| yofel | does it? I was just irritated that we had a symbol diff at all | 08:55 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: symbol diff against debian or symbol diff in my changes? | 08:57 |
| yofel | symbol diff in your changes | 08:57 |
| shadeslayer | well, some of them were required, for eg, the symbols file declared a build-dep on kdebase-workspace-dev | 08:58 |
| yofel | we often have symbol diff with debian, that's why using their symbol files is nonsense | 08:58 |
| shadeslayer | changed that to kde-workspace-dev | 08:58 |
| shadeslayer | but as for actual symbol changes, libkdecorations is the only one that I changed | 08:58 |
| yofel | the build-depends changes are fine, maybe I was just confused by your X-Debian-ABI changes which caused a huge diff | 08:59 |
| shadeslayer | yep, there I actually used the debian symbols file | 09:00 |
| yofel | builds fine? | 09:00 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 09:00 |
| yofel | k, leave it then | 09:00 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 09:00 |
| shadeslayer | I was actually thinking of copying over debian's symbols to see what kind of diff we get | 09:01 |
| apachelogger | yofel, Mamarok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Kubuntu/Introduction are we still using that? | 09:02 |
| apachelogger | last update was 2012 | 09:02 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: fixed and pushed | 09:14 |
| * shadeslayer hops onto pkg-kde-tools | 09:19 | |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: no idea, at least I don't know of another one | 09:20 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: also last edit was in 2014, so I guess yes | 09:21 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: that was adding a tag for review | 09:21 |
| Mamarok | s I said: I don't know of another one, and I never even touched that thing. It doesn't look obsolete | 09:22 |
| Mamarok | woah, wiki login takes like 2 minutes? | 09:23 |
| apachelogger | there's a reason I am moving our pages away from that wiki :P | 09:23 |
| Mamarok | 3 minutes now, still waiting | 09:23 |
| Mamarok | so yes, use that page, I guess one would just have to update it | 09:23 |
| apachelogger | proxy will time out | 09:23 |
| Mamarok | that still the old moin moin thing? | 09:24 |
| Riddell | yep | 09:24 |
| Mamarok | ah, I am in | 09:24 |
| Mamarok | oh my, where can I change my settings? I still have a very old email, but there are no settings, I guess ubuntu one thing? Last time I tried to change something there I filed a bug because it didn't work, and that still doesn't seem to be solved, as I still get updates for that bug | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: https://login.ubuntu.com/ | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | or maybe that's wiki specific | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | no, should be from login.ubuntu | 09:28 |
| Mamarok | I will try... | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: ping | 09:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: were apol and you able to come up with a way to reproduce the kconfig crash btw? | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: where is our pkg-kde-tools tracked? | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | i.e. which bzr branch | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: not really | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: apol told me to try this patch http://pastebin.com/TzyabYCF and see if everything works | 09:33 |
| shadeslayer | and everything worked | 09:33 |
| shadeslayer | well, when I say worked, I mean nothing seemed broken | 09:33 |
| apachelogger | yeah, would be nice to have a test validating the fix for SRU though ^^ | 09:33 |
| apachelogger | seems largely random though as threading issues always are | 09:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/pkg-kde-tools/utopic/view/head:/debian/rules#L8 is that l10n target required? | 09:50 |
| shadeslayer | if so, the version seems wrong | 09:50 |
| * shadeslayer taps fingers | 09:52 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it is | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | it's required? in that case, the version is wrong? | 09:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it is | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 09:58 |
| * shadeslayer fixes and moves on | 09:58 | |
| Riddell | xnox: hi, you were wondering about a qt5 port of ubiquity? | 10:06 |
| Riddell | xnox: there's nothing talked about so far but one is needed | 10:06 |
| Riddell | xnox: a port to QWidget qt5 should be pretty simple | 10:06 |
| xnox | Riddell: do you want it as a separate frontend / new frontend? | 10:06 |
| Riddell | xnox: and that should be kubuntu could share the majority of code with ubuntu which would be lovely | 10:06 |
| xnox | Riddell: would you ship qt5 ubiquity frontend without shipping framework5? | 10:07 |
| xnox | Riddell: is framework5 going to be on kubuntu image for 14.10? | 10:07 |
| Riddell | xnox: yet to be decided but I hope so | 10:07 |
| xnox | Riddell: initially, i'm thinking to do a straight kde frontend port to qt5 and use that interim. | 10:07 |
| Riddell | xnox: but that's pretty unrelated as ubiquity is qt only | 10:07 |
| xnox | Riddell: add ubuntu features/branding as of when needed. | 10:07 |
| Riddell | xnox: right | 10:08 |
| apachelogger | I really don't think we'll need kf5 for a qt5 port, short of libsolid anyway | 10:08 |
| apachelogger | we don't really need the higher tier frameworks | 10:08 |
| xnox | Riddell: right, i mean do you ship qt5 on the image already, and would that be an acceptable dependency? | 10:08 |
| Riddell | xnox: we don't yet but I hope we will in utopic and we'd be all for it as a dependency | 10:09 |
| xnox | Riddell: cool, thanks. | 10:09 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ pkg-kde-tools merged | 10:40 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Can you get ktp in trusty-proposed verified? It's old enough to be released if it gets tested. | 10:46 |
| * shadeslayer checks | 10:46 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: I've been running it since it hit the repo | 10:47 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Then mark it verification done if you've tested it. | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | roger | 10:47 |
| Riddell | hmm, do we have any qt 5.3 packages? | 10:53 |
| Riddell | seems plasma next needs it :( | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: maybe in the beta Qt PPA? | 10:57 |
| === fabo_ is now known as fabo | ||
| Riddell | nah, I guess neon is the only place | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: listening to alot of violin tunes I see :P | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | pianos are cool. | 11:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: violins are cooler | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | not really | 11:04 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 11:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: inspired by you I'm sure | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | sounds too often like dying kittens | 11:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: only when played incorrectly | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxEPV4kolz0 everyone likes piano men | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no, they just do | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | it's what they are meant to do | 11:05 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: ^^ halp | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_ghvfZ3ao | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | and that doesn't sound like a dying kitten you say? | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | no | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: this is what I'm practicing these days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faIclqBe7E8 | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | them fingers be mental | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/A_Chorus_of_Wieners | 11:12 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | Uploading muon_2.2.0-0ubuntu3.1_source.changes: done. | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: ^ SRU for kconfig crashes in muon | 11:15 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: what do you need help with? | 11:24 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: convincing apachelogger that violins > pianos | 11:26 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: and that violins don't sound like dying kittens | 11:26 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: only that Gane of Thrones exampe is dreadful, as his violin is badly tuned and he plays awful | 11:27 |
| Mamarok | his bow is just terrible | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | lol, I can't tell at the moment, my ear isn't trained enough | 11:27 |
| BluesKaj | 'Mornimg all | 11:28 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: this one is much better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNjxD3yjos | 11:29 |
| Mamarok | just don't do this to your bow :) | 11:29 |
| Riddell | hola shadeslayer | 11:58 |
| Riddell | hola sgclark too | 11:58 |
| sgclark | morning :) | 11:58 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kdelibs4support or plasma-framework still attention? | 12:00 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I'm on kdelibs4support | 12:02 |
| Riddell | sgclark: plasma-framework is all yours | 12:02 |
| sgclark | ok thanks! | 12:02 |
| Riddell | followed by krunner | 12:02 |
| sgclark | k | 12:03 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I see you've now inspired afiestas for some strings as well | 12:25 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Thanks. I'll try to take a look at it tonight. | 12:39 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: O_O | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | dat bow | 12:46 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: did you never completely unscrew it? Horse hair is awesome :) | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | Not completely | 12:48 |
| sgclark | Riddell: plasma-framework ready | 12:50 |
| * apachelogger squints at gmail being filled with strange mails | 13:06 | |
| apachelogger | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7SvCEc4BkQ | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | in related news: the mighty bbc still hasn't given an air date for season7 :@ | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | s/7/8/ oh my head | 13:07 |
| kubotu | apachelogger meant: "in related news: the mighty bbc still hasn't given an air date for season8 :@" | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order coffee | 13:07 |
| * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger. | 13:07 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: inorite | 13:08 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 13:08 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yay! | 13:11 |
| sgclark | Riddell: krunner ready | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | thoughts about dropping this delta http://paste.kde.org/pfzxyvivd | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | saucy has 1:2.7.2-0ubuntu2 | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | trusty has 2.8 | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | so everything should be safe | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Riddell ^^ | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | dunno, we need a policy for people to comment that shit | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | I agree | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | just as annoying as can-we-drop-that-transition-yet | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: why are you unsure btw? | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | I am not, it just needs looking into :P | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | 2.6 was in the rawring | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | rmadison doesn't list raring | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | whos that? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | Copied from: Kubuntu Package Staging (DON'T USE). Copied by: Jonathan Riddell Target series: Precise | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/pp7uzlxc0 | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | pykde4 4:4.13.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04~ppa1 in precise (source has no binaries to be copied) | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | btw | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu-backports that is | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: mind you, IMO conflicts replacery should never be dropped | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | no older calligrawr in the ppas | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: fine to drop | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | on a related note... I wonder what happens if one appends the same relationship but a different version | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | e.g. if one had preserved the 2.4 conflictery but add a 2.6 conflictery | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | that would ultimately make deltas more obvious | 14:29 |
| * shadeslayer hates merging | 14:31 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7416392/ line 142 | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | can be dropped too? | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | since everyone who upgraded to Trusty will have that, even if we backport calligra, people who upgraded to trusty will have the files in the correct place | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | now the cache rescans are back in the language kcm | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | now they are gone again | 15:14 |
| * apachelogger sighs | 15:14 | |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] KDE Locale module support for changing language is incomplete @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) | 15:25 |
| === joshw is now known as joshwambua | ||
| apachelogger | ScottK: kde-runtime also has an SRU for bug 1317115 | 15:39 |
| ubottu | bug 1317115 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu Trusty) "language kcm doesn't write env setup script" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 | 15:39 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] language kcm doesn't write env setup script @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) | 16:25 |
| * shadeslayer is stopping work on calligra to preserve sanity | 16:49 | |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] language kcm doesn't write env setup script @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) | 17:25 |
| === alket_ is now known as alket | ||
| Riddell | weird e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/pxhrcein0#line-5 | 21:33 |
| Riddell | so green http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.99.0_trusty.html | 21:37 |
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