[04:07] Riddell: yes, please upload, I don't have upload rights for it. [06:12] good morning [06:50] Good morning. [08:02] wgrant: can you please give these two builds a score bump https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/taskmanager-qml/+build/5987612 https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/taskmanager-qml/+build/5987613 [08:03] apachelogger: Done [08:03] wgrant: thanks [08:03] Though they're mostly behind KDE builds anyway :P [08:03] ::runtime-bugs:: [1089483] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package kde-runtime-d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1089483 (by Richel Bilderbeek) [08:04] wgrant: oh, what do we have queued? [08:04] I saw a lot of neon stuff earlier. [08:04] Maybe it's cleared now [08:05] should be, they get triggered at 3 UTC I think [08:05] The queues are pretty awful atm, so you never know. [08:06] indeed, I saw a build that was in queue for 10 hours ^^ [08:08] valorie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/SystemDocumentation?highlight=%28CategoryKubuntuUseful%29 <- isn't that CategoryKubuntuRubbish? [08:08] seems to be about the legacy docs setup [08:08] it should not be moved [08:09] but I wish there was a way to save it... perhaps I'll just copy to a text file [08:09] well, instead of deleting it I can mark it deprecated [08:10] that would work [08:10] internally its search matches will be down scored but the data is still there [08:22] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lp5a-r3MJU [08:22] the internet is a very strange place [08:24] valorie: what do I do with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Documentation?highlight=%28CategoryKubuntuRubbish%29 [08:24] wow [08:24] that actually seems like a duplication of the other page to begin with Oo [08:24] burn it with fire [08:25] * apachelogger uses the mighty flamethrower [08:27] that song seems to have been written to accompany the image of the octopus [08:27] so strange.... [08:30] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYK2i2tR7gU this video OTOH raises the question how many people get eaten by octopuses every year [08:31] giant squid will kill and eat a whale.... [08:32] oh my, octopus hickeys [08:32] makes for peculiar office talk [08:33] that there is a name for a band [08:34] first hit single "little octopus climbing over rock" [08:35] better than Men With Hats [08:35] or Trololo [08:35] detachable penis though, not better than that [08:37] * apachelogger nods [08:38] I think the kubuntu membership page needs some updatery and bringing in line with reality [08:38] such as: not requiring a wiki page that no one will read and then be outdated the rest of eternity [08:39] I update my page! [08:39] I find a wiki page really helpful when doing memberships [08:39] sometimes..... [08:39] it is personal advertising [08:39] Riddell: yeah, but couldn't people just as well throw that on lunchpad itself? [08:39] on launchpad? [08:39] where [08:39] tehre's an about field [08:39] or there used to be one [08:40] valorie: right at the top of your user page :P [08:41] well, I like the space to fill in details [08:41] because I forget what years I did things, etc. [08:41] apachelogger: I guess so, or a blog or whatever [08:41] valorie: I don't think a lot of people actually track stuff like that [08:41] a blog would be good too [08:42] because then we can use them for advertising cool kub. stuff [08:42] my general point is: a wiki page is not much advertising outside the membership process [08:42] true [08:42] at one time I was more enthused about the whole ubuntu community [08:42] but now I stick more to my favorite places [08:43] such as here [08:43] and youtube [08:43] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm368W0OsHo [08:43] bbiam [08:43] also youtube annotations kill kittens [08:44] * apachelogger argues that wiki move is complete [08:45] oh, the developers page is still missing [08:51] hi [08:54] hi shadeslayer [08:54] * Peace- reads about lxqt 0.7 pubblic release [08:55] yofel: re symbols from last night, debian/libkdecorations4abi2.symbols needs redoing right? [08:55] does it? I was just irritated that we had a symbol diff at all [08:57] yofel: symbol diff against debian or symbol diff in my changes? [08:57] symbol diff in your changes [08:58] well, some of them were required, for eg, the symbols file declared a build-dep on kdebase-workspace-dev [08:58] we often have symbol diff with debian, that's why using their symbol files is nonsense [08:58] changed that to kde-workspace-dev [08:58] but as for actual symbol changes, libkdecorations is the only one that I changed [08:59] the build-depends changes are fine, maybe I was just confused by your X-Debian-ABI changes which caused a huge diff [09:00] yep, there I actually used the debian symbols file [09:00] builds fine? [09:00] yeah [09:00] k, leave it then [09:00] ok [09:01] I was actually thinking of copying over debian's symbols to see what kind of diff we get [09:02] yofel, Mamarok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Kubuntu/Introduction are we still using that? [09:02] last update was 2012 [09:14] yofel: fixed and pushed [09:19] * shadeslayer hops onto pkg-kde-tools [09:20] apachelogger: no idea, at least I don't know of another one [09:21] apachelogger: also last edit was in 2014, so I guess yes [09:21] Mamarok: that was adding a tag for review [09:22] s I said: I don't know of another one, and I never even touched that thing. It doesn't look obsolete [09:23] woah, wiki login takes like 2 minutes? [09:23] there's a reason I am moving our pages away from that wiki :P [09:23] 3 minutes now, still waiting [09:23] so yes, use that page, I guess one would just have to update it [09:23] proxy will time out [09:24] that still the old moin moin thing? [09:24] yep [09:24] ah, I am in [09:26] oh my, where can I change my settings? I still have a very old email, but there are no settings, I guess ubuntu one thing? Last time I tried to change something there I filed a bug because it didn't work, and that still doesn't seem to be solved, as I still get updates for that bug [09:27] Mamarok: https://login.ubuntu.com/ [09:27] or maybe that's wiki specific [09:28] no, should be from login.ubuntu [09:28] I will try... [09:30] mitya57: ping [09:32] shadeslayer: were apol and you able to come up with a way to reproduce the kconfig crash btw? [09:32] mitya57: where is our pkg-kde-tools tracked? [09:32] i.e. which bzr branch [09:32] apachelogger: not really [09:33] apachelogger: apol told me to try this patch http://pastebin.com/TzyabYCF and see if everything works [09:33] and everything worked [09:33] well, when I say worked, I mean nothing seemed broken [09:33] yeah, would be nice to have a test validating the fix for SRU though ^^ [09:34] seems largely random though as threading issues always are [09:50] apachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/pkg-kde-tools/utopic/view/head:/debian/rules#L8 is that l10n target required? [09:50] if so, the version seems wrong [09:52] * shadeslayer taps fingers [09:58] shadeslayer: it is [09:58] it's required? in that case, the version is wrong? [09:58] shadeslayer: it is [09:58] ok [09:58] * shadeslayer fixes and moves on [10:06] xnox: hi, you were wondering about a qt5 port of ubiquity? [10:06] xnox: there's nothing talked about so far but one is needed [10:06] xnox: a port to QWidget qt5 should be pretty simple [10:06] Riddell: do you want it as a separate frontend / new frontend? [10:06] xnox: and that should be kubuntu could share the majority of code with ubuntu which would be lovely [10:07] Riddell: would you ship qt5 ubiquity frontend without shipping framework5? [10:07] Riddell: is framework5 going to be on kubuntu image for 14.10? [10:07] xnox: yet to be decided but I hope so [10:07] Riddell: initially, i'm thinking to do a straight kde frontend port to qt5 and use that interim. [10:07] xnox: but that's pretty unrelated as ubiquity is qt only [10:07] Riddell: add ubuntu features/branding as of when needed. [10:08] xnox: right [10:08] I really don't think we'll need kf5 for a qt5 port, short of libsolid anyway [10:08] we don't really need the higher tier frameworks [10:08] Riddell: right, i mean do you ship qt5 on the image already, and would that be an acceptable dependency? [10:09] xnox: we don't yet but I hope we will in utopic and we'd be all for it as a dependency [10:09] Riddell: cool, thanks. [10:40] \o/ pkg-kde-tools merged [10:46] shadeslayer: Can you get ktp in trusty-proposed verified? It's old enough to be released if it gets tested. [10:46] * shadeslayer checks [10:47] ScottK: I've been running it since it hit the repo [10:47] shadeslayer: Then mark it verification done if you've tested it. [10:47] roger [10:53] hmm, do we have any qt 5.3 packages? [10:55] seems plasma next needs it :( [10:57] Riddell: maybe in the beta Qt PPA? === fabo_ is now known as fabo [10:59] nah, I guess neon is the only place [11:01] Riddell: listening to alot of violin tunes I see :P [11:03] pianos are cool. [11:04] apachelogger: violins are cooler [11:04] not really [11:04] :O [11:05] shadeslayer: inspired by you I'm sure [11:05] sounds too often like dying kittens [11:05] apachelogger: only when played incorrectly [11:05] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxEPV4kolz0 everyone likes piano men [11:05] shadeslayer: no, they just do [11:05] it's what they are meant to do [11:06] Mamarok: ^^ halp [11:07] apachelogger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_ghvfZ3ao [11:08] and that doesn't sound like a dying kitten you say? [11:08] no [11:09] apachelogger: this is what I'm practicing these days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faIclqBe7E8 [11:10] them fingers be mental [11:12] http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/A_Chorus_of_Wieners [11:12] heh [11:15] Uploading muon_2.2.0-0ubuntu3.1_source.changes: done. [11:15] Successfully uploaded packages. [11:15] ScottK: ^ SRU for kconfig crashes in muon [11:24] shadeslayer: what do you need help with? [11:26] Mamarok: convincing apachelogger that violins > pianos [11:26] Mamarok: and that violins don't sound like dying kittens [11:27] shadeslayer: only that Gane of Thrones exampe is dreadful, as his violin is badly tuned and he plays awful [11:27] his bow is just terrible [11:27] lol, I can't tell at the moment, my ear isn't trained enough [11:28] 'Mornimg all [11:29] shadeslayer: this one is much better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNjxD3yjos [11:29] just don't do this to your bow :) [11:58] hola shadeslayer [11:58] hola sgclark too [11:58] morning :) [12:00] Riddell: kdelibs4support or plasma-framework still attention? [12:02] sgclark: I'm on kdelibs4support [12:02] sgclark: plasma-framework is all yours [12:02] ok thanks! [12:02] followed by krunner [12:03] k [12:25] shadeslayer: I see you've now inspired afiestas for some strings as well [12:39] apachelogger: Thanks. I'll try to take a look at it tonight. [12:45] Mamarok: O_O [12:46] dat bow [12:47] shadeslayer: did you never completely unscrew it? Horse hair is awesome :) [12:48] Not completely [12:50] Riddell: plasma-framework ready [13:06] * apachelogger squints at gmail being filled with strange mails [13:06] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7SvCEc4BkQ [13:07] in related news: the mighty bbc still hasn't given an air date for season7 :@ [13:07] s/7/8/ oh my head [13:07] apachelogger meant: "in related news: the mighty bbc still hasn't given an air date for season8 :@" [13:07] kubotu: order coffee [13:07] * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger. [13:08] apachelogger: inorite [13:08] :( [13:11] sgclark: yay! [14:21] Riddell: krunner ready [14:21] thoughts about dropping this delta http://paste.kde.org/pfzxyvivd [14:21] saucy has 1:2.7.2-0ubuntu2 [14:22] trusty has 2.8 [14:22] so everything should be safe [14:23] apachelogger: Riddell ^^ [14:23] dunno, we need a policy for people to comment that shit [14:23] I agree [14:23] just as annoying as can-we-drop-that-transition-yet [14:23] apachelogger: why are you unsure btw? [14:24] I am not, it just needs looking into :P [14:25] 2.6 was in the rawring [14:26] rmadison doesn't list raring [14:26] whos that? [14:27] Riddell: [14:27] Copied from: Kubuntu Package Staging (DON'T USE). Copied by: Jonathan Riddell Target series: Precise [14:27] http://paste.kde.org/pp7uzlxc0 [14:27] pykde4 4:4.13.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04~ppa1 in precise (source has no binaries to be copied) [14:27] btw [14:27] kubuntu-backports that is [14:27] shadeslayer: mind you, IMO conflicts replacery should never be dropped [14:28] no older calligrawr in the ppas [14:28] shadeslayer: fine to drop [14:29] on a related note... I wonder what happens if one appends the same relationship but a different version [14:29] e.g. if one had preserved the 2.4 conflictery but add a 2.6 conflictery [14:29] that would ultimately make deltas more obvious [14:31] * shadeslayer hates merging [14:43] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7416392/ line 142 [14:43] can be dropped too? [14:44] since everyone who upgraded to Trusty will have that, even if we backport calligra, people who upgraded to trusty will have the files in the correct place [15:10] now the cache rescans are back in the language kcm [15:14] now they are gone again [15:14] * apachelogger sighs [15:25] ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] KDE Locale module support for changing language is incomplete @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) === joshw is now known as joshwambua [15:39] ScottK: kde-runtime also has an SRU for bug 1317115 [15:39] bug 1317115 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu Trusty) "language kcm doesn't write env setup script" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 [16:25] ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] language kcm doesn't write env setup script @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) [16:49] * shadeslayer is stopping work on calligra to preserve sanity [17:25] ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] language kcm doesn't write env setup script @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) === alket_ is now known as alket [21:33] weird e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/pxhrcein0#line-5 [21:37] so green http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.99.0_trusty.html