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zequence | Any chance one could sync linux-rt from Debian? | 10:51 |
zequence | And just keep it in sync with security updates and such, through a special SRU process? | 10:53 |
zequence | Haven't actually tried one of those kernels on Ubuntu, and I'm pretty oblivious to what they could be missing in terms of Ubuntu specific patches | 10:54 |
zequence | But, assuming they would work, it would seem like a lot less work compared to the alternative, which we are considering: to re-introduce a linux-rt variant of the Ubuntu kernel. | 10:56 |
henrix | zequence: just out of curiosity: is linux-rt the preempt-rt patched kernels? | 10:56 |
apw | i thought that patchset was mostly dead now | 10:57 |
zequence | No, it's still alive :) | 10:57 |
apw | and ... there is no linux-rt source package in debian | 10:57 |
zequence | hmmm, no they don't seem to have that for jessie | 10:59 |
zequence | But, there are for wheezy, and in sid they have 3.14 | 11:00 |
apw | what do they call it even | 11:01 |
apw | as rmadison cannot find it | 11:01 |
zequence | try linux-image-rt-amd64 | 11:01 |
henrix | well, i problem i see is with linux-rt is that they pick only specific kernel versions for their patchset, and they don't match ubuntu kernel versions | 11:02 |
henrix | (well, they support 3.2 and 3.8. but not 3.13 for ex) | 11:02 |
apw | you are never going to be able to be on an ubuntu chosen kernel with their workflow | 11:03 |
apw | what do you think you are going to get for all that pain? | 11:03 |
zequence | a few ms more, basically | 11:04 |
apw | an do you need it, or is that just something that makes you hot | 11:04 |
apw | as the release schedules for debian and ubuntu do not line up | 11:05 |
apw | you have no guaretee of any kind of security support at all on a synd | 11:05 |
apw | synced kernel from debian, i think you are asking for a world of pain | 11:05 |
* apw cannot really understand how so many years have gone by and this is not yet in mainline | 11:06 | |
* apw loves the way the current documentation talks about natty | 11:07 | |
zequence | Well, it's just an idea. I would need to do some real testing to find out the pros and cons with lowlatency vs rt. I do know that -lowlatency is just on the limit of acceptance in some cases, so it is at least interesting to find out | 11:08 |
zequence | ..and what the choices could be | 11:08 |
apw | well you should be able to copy the source package, which i have yet to find still | 11:10 |
apw | into a ppa and let it build, and see what happens | 11:10 |
apw | zequence, what is the source package for those | 11:11 |
lag | apw: Hola | 11:12 |
apw | lag, hi | 11:13 |
lag | apw: Are you well? | 11:13 |
zequence | apw: I think it's it's the same source for all linux kernels, not sure. | 11:13 |
apw | lag, yeah, you? | 11:13 |
lag | apw: Yeah, doing well thanks | 11:14 |
lag | apw: I think I found a checkpatch false positive | 11:14 |
lag | apw: ./scripts/checkpatch.pl -f drivers/mfd/88pm80x.c | 11:14 |
zequence | apw: linux-latest for the latest. Really haven't checked out that at all. | 11:14 |
lag | apw: It appears your script doesn't know about SIMPLE_DEV_PM_OPS() | 11:15 |
apw | lag, there are many of them indeed | 11:15 |
apw | lag, email it to me and joe | 11:16 |
apw | lag, and ignore it if it is wrong, you are allowed to | 11:16 |
lag | apw: I'll collect them and send a batch email | 11:16 |
apw | sounds good | 11:16 |
lag | apw: Ta | 11:16 |
apw | zequence, so yeah that makes your life very painful as it will make heaps of kernels but ... hey that is what PPAs are for, making a mess | 11:17 |
apw | zequence, so i'd suggest step one is to copy the source from debian into a ppa and see what happens | 11:23 |
zequence | apw: Ok, thanks. I will try that. | 11:23 |
apw | henrix, this backport for teh CVE, i am damned if i can see why its not a cherry-pick | 11:48 |
biswass | Hi, I am facing a kernel panic during boot, and it has been quite frequent in the last couple of weeks. I am using 3.13.0-16-generic with Ubuntu 1404 LTS. I have tried reporting the bug with apport, but it says that the package is not an official Ubuntu package. | 11:49 |
apw | linux | 3.13.0-24.46 | trusty | source | 11:49 |
apw | linux | 3.13.0-24.47 | trusty-security | source | 11:49 |
apw | linux | 3.13.0-24.47 | trusty-proposed | source | 11:49 |
apw | linux | 3.13.0-24.47 | trusty-updates | source | 11:49 |
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apw | biswass, no indeed as the release kerenl is -24 that makes sense | 11:50 |
biswass | Ah okay, thanks. So then why is it that my kernel version is not getting updated? | 11:50 |
biswass | How can I update my version to the latest build? | 11:50 |
apw | biswass, no idea how you have such an old version, is this a desktop or server | 11:51 |
apw | it should be asking you to update in the general case | 11:52 |
biswass | This is a desktop, and I have a regular Ubuntu LTS and get regular updates. | 11:52 |
biswass | apw, Yeah right, that is how it should be. | 11:52 |
apw | biswass, and is indeed what happens on the kit i am using right now | 11:53 |
apw | biswass, so what does this command say: dpkg -l linux-image-* | grep 'ii' | 11:53 |
apw | biswass, you may want to pm me the results rather than spam here | 11:53 |
apw | biswass, ok you have lost your meta packages | 11:58 |
apw | biswass, "apt-get install linux-generic" should sort you out | 11:58 |
apw | which should install the meta packages depending on the latest kerenls | 11:59 |
apw | you should see a kernel more like -24.47 installed as a result | 11:59 |
henrix | apw: oh, it is *almost* a cherry-pick :) | 12:01 |
henrix | apw: it won't be a clean cherry-pick in munlock_vma_page() -- you need a minor adjustment | 12:02 |
henrix | apw: but yeah, calling it a backport is probably too much :) | 12:02 |
henrix | apw: my rule is: if it is not a clean cherry-pick, i call it backport. | 12:04 |
apw | then it is a backport, i just can't see the differnce :) | 12:05 |
apw | henrix, oh but why quantal backport and not quantal main | 12:05 |
henrix | apw: i believe there won't be any other quantal kernel, but i may be wrong (i was wrong last week) | 12:07 |
henrix | bjf: ^ | 12:07 |
henrix | hmm... bjf isn't around | 12:07 |
apw | no indeed | 12:07 |
henrix | ok, i'll ping him once he's around later today | 12:08 |
apw | henrix, i'll just reply and mention it in the thread, then it won't get lost | 12:09 |
apw | and you don't have to wait on him | 12:09 |
henrix | apw: ack, thanks | 12:09 |
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apw | smb, you know how to test iscsitarget i am sure, and of course you are running utopic :) | 16:09 |
smb | apw, the answer is no anyway :-P | 16:09 |
apw | smb, no to both ? | 16:10 |
apw | smb, i just uploaded a "fixed" version of iscsitarget to utopic, i guess i need to find someone who does use it | 16:11 |
smb | apw, no to the first as in not from the top of my head. the utopic part not yet | 16:12 |
smb | apw, Maybe I could bring up a VM to test... but then so could you... | 16:14 |
apw | smb, on i can install it, but have literally no idea how to use it :) | 16:15 |
apw | one of those things i was hoping you were familiar with | 16:15 |
smb | Yeah, every now in a while. Usually have to figure out where I maybe wrote down how | 16:16 |
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