=== hatch__ is now known as hatch [08:29] /b 2 [10:51] Any chance one could sync linux-rt from Debian? [10:53] And just keep it in sync with security updates and such, through a special SRU process? [10:54] Haven't actually tried one of those kernels on Ubuntu, and I'm pretty oblivious to what they could be missing in terms of Ubuntu specific patches [10:56] But, assuming they would work, it would seem like a lot less work compared to the alternative, which we are considering: to re-introduce a linux-rt variant of the Ubuntu kernel. [10:56] zequence: just out of curiosity: is linux-rt the preempt-rt patched kernels? [10:57] i thought that patchset was mostly dead now [10:57] No, it's still alive :) [10:57] and ... there is no linux-rt source package in debian [10:59] hmmm, no they don't seem to have that for jessie [11:00] But, there are for wheezy, and in sid they have 3.14 [11:01] what do they call it even [11:01] as rmadison cannot find it [11:01] try linux-image-rt-amd64 [11:02] well, i problem i see is with linux-rt is that they pick only specific kernel versions for their patchset, and they don't match ubuntu kernel versions [11:02] (well, they support 3.2 and 3.8. but not 3.13 for ex) [11:03] you are never going to be able to be on an ubuntu chosen kernel with their workflow [11:03] what do you think you are going to get for all that pain? [11:04] a few ms more, basically [11:04] an do you need it, or is that just something that makes you hot [11:05] as the release schedules for debian and ubuntu do not line up [11:05] you have no guaretee of any kind of security support at all on a synd [11:05] synced kernel from debian, i think you are asking for a world of pain [11:06] * apw cannot really understand how so many years have gone by and this is not yet in mainline [11:07] * apw loves the way the current documentation talks about natty [11:08] Well, it's just an idea. I would need to do some real testing to find out the pros and cons with lowlatency vs rt. I do know that -lowlatency is just on the limit of acceptance in some cases, so it is at least interesting to find out [11:08] ..and what the choices could be [11:10] well you should be able to copy the source package, which i have yet to find still [11:10] into a ppa and let it build, and see what happens [11:11] zequence, what is the source package for those [11:12] apw: Hola [11:13] lag, hi [11:13] apw: Are you well? [11:13] apw: I think it's it's the same source for all linux kernels, not sure. [11:13] lag, yeah, you? [11:14] apw: Yeah, doing well thanks [11:14] apw: I think I found a checkpatch false positive [11:14] apw: ./scripts/checkpatch.pl -f drivers/mfd/88pm80x.c [11:14] apw: linux-latest for the latest. Really haven't checked out that at all. [11:15] apw: It appears your script doesn't know about SIMPLE_DEV_PM_OPS() [11:15] lag, there are many of them indeed [11:16] lag, email it to me and joe [11:16] lag, and ignore it if it is wrong, you are allowed to [11:16] apw: I'll collect them and send a batch email [11:16] sounds good [11:16] apw: Ta [11:17] zequence, so yeah that makes your life very painful as it will make heaps of kernels but ... hey that is what PPAs are for, making a mess [11:23] zequence, so i'd suggest step one is to copy the source from debian into a ppa and see what happens [11:23] apw: Ok, thanks. I will try that. [11:48] henrix, this backport for teh CVE, i am damned if i can see why its not a cherry-pick [11:49] Hi, I am facing a kernel panic during boot, and it has been quite frequent in the last couple of weeks. I am using 3.13.0-16-generic with Ubuntu 1404 LTS. I have tried reporting the bug with apport, but it says that the package is not an official Ubuntu package. [11:49] linux | 3.13.0-24.46 | trusty | source [11:49] linux | 3.13.0-24.47 | trusty-security | source [11:49] linux | 3.13.0-24.47 | trusty-proposed | source [11:49] linux | 3.13.0-24.47 | trusty-updates | source === fmasi is now known as Guest1827 [11:50] biswass, no indeed as the release kerenl is -24 that makes sense [11:50] Ah okay, thanks. So then why is it that my kernel version is not getting updated? [11:50] How can I update my version to the latest build? [11:51] biswass, no idea how you have such an old version, is this a desktop or server [11:52] it should be asking you to update in the general case [11:52] This is a desktop, and I have a regular Ubuntu LTS and get regular updates. [11:52] apw, Yeah right, that is how it should be. [11:53] biswass, and is indeed what happens on the kit i am using right now [11:53] biswass, so what does this command say: dpkg -l linux-image-* | grep 'ii' [11:53] biswass, you may want to pm me the results rather than spam here [11:58] biswass, ok you have lost your meta packages [11:58] biswass, "apt-get install linux-generic" should sort you out [11:59] which should install the meta packages depending on the latest kerenls [11:59] you should see a kernel more like -24.47 installed as a result [12:01] apw: oh, it is *almost* a cherry-pick :) [12:02] apw: it won't be a clean cherry-pick in munlock_vma_page() -- you need a minor adjustment [12:02] apw: but yeah, calling it a backport is probably too much :) [12:04] apw: my rule is: if it is not a clean cherry-pick, i call it backport. [12:05] then it is a backport, i just can't see the differnce :) [12:05] henrix, oh but why quantal backport and not quantal main [12:07] apw: i believe there won't be any other quantal kernel, but i may be wrong (i was wrong last week) [12:07] bjf: ^ [12:07] hmm... bjf isn't around [12:07] no indeed [12:08] ok, i'll ping him once he's around later today [12:09] henrix, i'll just reply and mention it in the thread, then it won't get lost [12:09] and you don't have to wait on him [12:09] apw: ack, thanks === kees_ is now known as kees === Guest1827 is now known as fmasi === arges` is now known as arges [16:09] smb, you know how to test iscsitarget i am sure, and of course you are running utopic :) [16:09] apw, the answer is no anyway :-P [16:10] smb, no to both ? [16:11] smb, i just uploaded a "fixed" version of iscsitarget to utopic, i guess i need to find someone who does use it [16:12] apw, no to the first as in not from the top of my head. the utopic part not yet [16:14] apw, Maybe I could bring up a VM to test... but then so could you... [16:15] smb, on i can install it, but have literally no idea how to use it :) [16:15] one of those things i was hoping you were familiar with [16:16] Yeah, every now in a while. Usually have to figure out where I maybe wrote down how === rtg is now known as Guest62870 === rtg_ is now known as Guest51195