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| sergiusens | slangasek: I've finished updating the MP; I also added the core dev team to phablet-team (invite) | 01:22 |
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| sergiusens | the few tests in there use code paths with reflection, so I guess I'm not affected by the strip problem; I'll test now and verify | 01:25 |
| slangasek | sergiusens: dh_strip would happen after dh_auto_test, regardless | 01:44 |
| sergiusens | right | 01:45 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:48 |
| Mirv | FYI I've started Qt 5.3 RC "cut all corners" builds now (qt5-daily PPA if anyone interested) | 07:32 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy No Socks Day! :-D | 07:56 |
| JamesTait | popey, taking a quick look into Bug #1317233 for you now. | 07:57 |
| ubot5 | bug 1317233 in Click Package Index "Store only returning 100 results" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317233 | 07:57 |
| popey | thanks | 07:57 |
| JamesTait | I suspect we put a limit on the results - pagination is WIP. | 07:58 |
| JamesTait | popey, yep, we have a configurable limit on the default page size that defaults to 100. Branch to add pagination landed in trunk last night, but isn't in production yet. | 08:14 |
| popey | JamesTait: pagination to the backend? | 08:15 |
| popey | thats a real shame, it breaks the user experience on the phone, and breaks my script for downloading all clicks - which has been a valuable tool for debugging - multiple times. | 08:16 |
| JamesTait | popey, yeah, I think we dropped the ball on this one. :( | 08:17 |
| popey | can it be flipped back until all the moving pieces are in place? | 08:17 |
| ogra_ | yeah, its quite a bad regression | 08:18 |
| marcus | hi all. I have installed ubuntu touch on a nexus 4 in dual boot. When I try to install any additional app, I always got an Download Error. Internet connection works fine in general. | 08:19 |
| ogra_ | which image are you on ? (version number) | 08:20 |
| marcus | 303 | 08:25 |
| marcus | trusty | 08:25 |
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| mikenagle | mardy: Hi sorry I missed this chat yesterday - was distracted by lots of meetings. The short answer is I don't know. I've asked JohnLea to share the online acocunts spec with me so that I can understand that better. Current thinking is that the scope will have an add account button but we haven't specced that out yet | 09:02 |
| mardy | mikenagle: no worries, thanks for coming back :-) | 09:19 |
| mardy | mikenagle: we should have a meeting about that on Friday, I'll ask dbarth to invite you as well | 09:20 |
| ogra_ | pete-woods, you are still working on the hud, right ? (i just noticed that bug 1299806 is not fixed and was actually in the released trusty image too) | 09:22 |
| ubot5 | bug 1299806 in hud (Ubuntu) "the hud package ships a messed up upstart session job" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1299806 | 09:22 |
| JohnLea | mardy; we will be discussing this at the meeting tomorrow | 09:22 |
| JohnLea | mardy; mike already has too many meetings and has got loads of stuff to do, so for meeting tomorrow you will get Yolanda and myself | 09:23 |
| pete-woods | ogra_: it's definitely got my attention, I'm going to fix it with an SRU | 09:23 |
| JohnLea | mardy; need to cut down on meetings so we can get other dash items finished before malta | 09:23 |
| ogra_ | pete-woods, well, at least fix it in utopic :) (nobody uses the stable image anyway yet) | 09:23 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:26 |
| mardy | JohnLea: sounds good! | 09:30 |
| mandel | sil2100, is there no way to unblock silo 001 to land? | 09:33 |
| mandel | sil2100, sorry, good morning ;) | 09:33 |
| sil2100 | mandel: morning! I was poking some people today about that ;) | 09:38 |
| mandel | sil2100, sweet, let me know if you got some info and if you need anything from me | 09:38 |
| * Laney types his lastpass-generated-with-loads-of-symbols sso password for the 999th time | 09:40 | |
| Laney | tedious | 09:40 |
| JamesTait | balloons, ping re bug #1317161 | 10:31 |
| ubot5 | bug 1317161 in Click Package Index "Add last_updated field to store json api feed" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317161 | 10:31 |
| JamesTait | balloons, specifically, do you want this field available in the search results (/api/v1/search) or only in the package detail (/api/v1/package/xxx)? | 10:32 |
| popey | sergiusens / asac which image can I expect reminders to be preinstalled in? | 10:34 |
| asac | popey: is there no other way to get proper exposure for this app? | 10:36 |
| asac | like old fashion blogging etc.? | 10:36 |
| sergiusens | asac: why would you not want it in? | 10:37 |
| asac | sergiusens: does it fulfill an essential feature that all users of smartphone want to have? | 10:38 |
| sergiusens | asac: it's a core app | 10:39 |
| asac | that doesnt answer the question :) | 10:40 |
| sergiusens | asac: hmm, how about pat asked for it to be in and he owns the apps side? | 10:40 |
| asac | right. he said the main reason he wants it in is testing/user exposure | 10:40 |
| dednick | anyone? Cannot push /home/nick/.cache/ubuntuimages/ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/mako/version-17.tar.xz.asc to device: free space on /cache/recovery is file | 10:40 |
| asac | sergiusens: anyway, we are talking in management what to do. independent we seem to agree that the name is kind of misleading. no way to find something better? | 10:41 |
| asac | stay tuned | 10:41 |
| * asac goes lunch | 10:41 | |
| sergiusens | asac: I really don't mind and don't decide the names ;-) | 10:42 |
| sergiusens | or if it goes in; I just let design management tell me about that side | 10:42 |
| Mirv | ok, maybe not so "cut all corners" method then | 10:42 |
| sergiusens | dednick: if you are flashing for the first time use --bootstrap | 10:43 |
| sergiusens | dednick: if you did partition resizing use --bootstrap as well | 10:43 |
| dednick | sergiusens: thanks! | 10:52 |
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| * Laney spanks ofono-phonesim-autostart | 11:02 | |
| Laney | you bad bad thing | 11:02 |
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| ogra_ | sergiusens, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/phablet-tools/force-mirscreencast-filename/+merge/218788 | 11:49 |
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| ogra_ | fixed phablet-screenshot | 11:49 |
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| ogra_ | popey, was there a bug for the screenshot issue ? | 11:54 |
| popey | the what? | 11:56 |
| popey | i think they may have undone the 60Hz thing | 11:56 |
| popey | mir_screencast_768x1280.rgba is the filename on my latest image | 11:56 |
| ogra_ | well, i added an MP anyway | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | that will use a fixed filename no matter how they change the default around | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | i just thought there was a bug for it | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | (to include in the MP) | 11:57 |
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| sergiusens | ogra_: care to link the bug? | 12:01 |
| ogra_ | just trying to ... LP fails | 12:01 |
| ogra_ | ah, worked this time | 12:01 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: popey I was steaming down before fixing it as I added the last item in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlans/Mir to prevent this :-/ | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | well, with my fix they can change as they like (as long as the -f option persists) | 12:03 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: I wish we could see full files on launchpad, now I have to download to recall what $1 was :-P | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | size | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | it is handed over to the function from an fbset call | 12:05 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: why don't you replace that with $size? | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | done | 12:07 |
| sergiusens | approved | 12:12 |
| ogra_ | thx | 12:17 |
| ogra_ | ah, thanks for setting the commit message ... i always forget that | 12:21 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, that media-hub override file we once added to lxc-android-config to set some env vars ... is that still needed ? | 12:32 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: is there a way to print inside a shell function? | 12:32 |
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| ogra_ | echo ? printf ? | 12:33 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: I think it's saved as a return value | 12:33 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: so if exit is called within the function nothing gets echoed | 12:34 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: nevermind; I think I have syntax errors :-/ | 12:35 |
| ogra_ | weird, echo should always work | 12:35 |
| ogra_ | as long as it is run before exit at least | 12:35 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: ah, set -e :-) | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | oh, yeah, sou should always do that :) | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | *you | 12:38 |
| * ogra_ often even uses -eu ... | 12:38 | |
| sergiusens | yeah it's eu | 12:38 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: can you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-tools/screenshot_with_multiple_devices/+merge/218795 ? | 12:46 |
| popey | thanks neat | 12:47 |
| popey | s/thanks/thats/ | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, why not append SERIAL to ADBOPTS ? i think CI uses the latter | 12:47 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: some statements were missing ADBOPTS | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | well, better ask if they need that before dropping it (though do they use phablet-screenshot at all ?) | 12:48 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: I'm mostly sure they also declare ANDROID_SERIAL | 12:49 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: it would of failed for them by now :-P | 12:49 |
| ogra_ | ok | 12:49 |
| ogra_ | approved | 12:49 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: I don't think the use ADBOPTS as if they did phablet-network would fail (it declares it as empty inside) | 12:50 |
| ogra_ | oh, ok :) | 12:50 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: variable name is just a coincidence, I guess they do 'phablet-network $ADBOPTS" | 12:50 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: set -e always makes me waste a bit more time than desired :-) shell scripts should print stack traces :-P | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | set -x | 12:55 |
| ogra_ | :P | 12:55 |
| asac | sergiusens: popey: ok go ahead with reminders | 12:59 |
| popey | asac: sergiusens I spoke to pmcgowan about it.. | 12:59 |
| popey | he suggested we wait until the app has been switched to point to the real evernote server | 12:59 |
| popey | rather than the sandbox one | 12:59 |
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| asac | hmm | 13:00 |
| asac | popey: ok let me talk to pat in a bit | 13:00 |
| pmcgowan | I did not know one needed to make a special account to use it | 13:00 |
| pmcgowan | kindof a barrier to using it | 13:00 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, yes still needed | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | ok | 13:01 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, always will be | 13:01 |
| ogra_ | i thought you ship it with media-hub itslef now | 13:01 |
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| pmcgowan | asac, I am flexible on it, but I suspect my goal will not be met for having it get used more | 13:01 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, oh I see what you're saying, let me check (I didn't add that personally if we do) | 13:01 |
| sergiusens | pmcgowan: chicken and egg problems :-) | 13:01 |
| pmcgowan | exactly | 13:01 |
| pmcgowan | my words to pitkin | 13:01 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7185378/ was the change | 13:02 |
| ogra_ | oh, i see, you indeed wouldnt want that on desktop ... so lxc-android-config is the right place | 13:03 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, right | 13:03 |
| sergiusens | jhodapp: ogra_ we dscussed that, we decided we'd do something similar for powerd where media-hub would detect it's in android; it's probably missing the task for it in our tracker | 13:04 |
| asac | pmcgowan: /msg | 13:04 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, yeah, i was just going through open tabs in my browser ... i usually keep them open as reminder that there still needs to be done something | 13:04 |
| jhodapp | sergiusens, right, though I'd like to see what powerd is doing exactly because the lxc-android-config solution is a good one | 13:05 |
| sergiusens | jhodapp: I guess you missed the discussion on reducing overrides on the phone list :-) | 13:05 |
| jhodapp | sergiusens, yeah I guess I did | 13:06 |
| jhodapp | sergiusens, but that's reducing, doesn't mean eliminate :) | 13:06 |
| ogra_ | well, it is an android specific override ... | 13:06 |
| sergiusens | yeah, this won't break today ;-) | 13:07 |
| jhodapp | right | 13:07 |
| sergiusens | jhodapp: do you link with hybris? | 13:09 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, wow, thats weird, how can resize2fs work without actually having the space allocated on the img ... | 13:09 |
| sergiusens | jhodapp: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/powerd/trunk/revision/115#src/powerd.cpp | 13:09 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, not sure, rsalveti gave me that trick and ricmm uses it too | 13:10 |
| * ogra_ wonders if there isnt just the metadata of the filesystem updated but you dont actually have the extra space | 13:10 | |
| jhodapp | sergiusens, media-hub doesn't link with hybris, though it might start to with the camera recording addition | 13:10 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, no I definitely do :) | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | weird | 13:10 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, I ran out of space before, and then I didn't | 13:10 |
| sergiusens | jhodapp: well if you do; you have an easy way to detect androidness ;-) | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | "The size of the filesystem may never be larger than the size of the partition. If size parameter is not | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | specified, it will default to the size of the partition." | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, ^^^from the manpage ... | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | so i wonder how that works | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | also: | 13:12 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, lol, I'll leave you to figure that out, I only had time to care that it works :) | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | " The resize2fs program does not manipulate the size of partitions. If you wish to enlarge a filesystem, you must make sure | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | you can expand the size of the underlying partition first. " | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | so weird | 13:13 |
| sergiusens | pmcgowan asac popey feel free to approve https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/click-sync/reminders/+merge/218803 when you want reminders in the image | 13:14 |
| jhodapp | thanks sergiusens, I'll take a look at that | 13:14 |
| popey | thanks sergiusens | 13:15 |
| mterry | ogra_, have you used ofono-phonesim-autostart recently? Seems to be broken | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | mterry, our automatic test suite uses it constantly | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | seems to be broken with messaging-app on flo since the last two images ... mako and manta are fine though | 13:31 |
| * ogra_ is waiting for awe to talk about that | 13:31 | |
| mterry | ogra_, yesterday and today I flashed a new mako and installed the package, I can't dial 199 anymore to receive a call | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | mterry, http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/mako/17:20140508:20140506.1/7915/dialer_app/ ... well ... works fine in the test suite | 13:32 |
| mterry | ogra_, hmm... I wonder if there's some other dep I need | 13:33 |
| mterry | My script for sending a fake text also isn't working | 13:33 |
| ogra_ | (test_incoming is the one that uses the 199 feature) | 13:33 |
| mterry | I'll try running the dialer app autopilot. Presumably it will work | 13:33 |
| ogra_ | it should :) | 13:34 |
| ogra_ | else our test suite lies | 13:34 |
| tedg | ogra_, So I'm a bit confused when you say "session manager" in your email about full home. | 13:40 |
| tedg | ogra_, Do you mean just session configuration? | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | i mean anything that writes to home on session startup | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | and yes, i mean a bunch of your upstart jobs too :) | 13:40 |
| tedg | ogra_, "our session manager itself as well as…" | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | right | 13:41 |
| tedg | What do you mean by session manager there/ | 13:41 |
| tedg | ? | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | ubuntu-touch-session has a bunch of scripts | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | plus there are the upstart jobs | 13:41 |
| tedg | Okay, but none of those are a session manager, right? | 13:41 |
| tedg | They're more session init. | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | and things like autopilot rely on having some info about the system available from files and env vars | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | well, i mean everything in ubuntu-touch-session plus all jobs in /usr/share/upstart/session/ | 13:42 |
| tedg | I thought most of ubuntu-touch-session was things that phonedations hadn't gotten around to upstreaming? | 13:43 |
| * tedg checks it out | 13:43 | |
| ogra_ | no | 13:43 |
| ogra_ | there is session-manager-touch ... and usc-wrapper for example | 13:44 |
| ogra_ | but there are also scripts that write stuff to ~/.bashrc to make certain vars available to the adb shell | 13:44 |
| ogra_ | dont worry about ubuntu-touch-session, i'm caring for that | 13:44 |
| ogra_ | but please teake a look at hud and other upstart jobs you own | 13:44 |
| tedg | I don't see "session-manager-touch" | 13:48 |
| ogra_ | was renamed ... but ignore that i'll take care of it | 13:48 |
| ogra_ | more important is that the upstart jobs get cleaned alongside | 13:48 |
| marcus | the indicator besides My Apps points down by default like v - i found that a bit confusing as for me it means all items are shown but here it's the opposite | 13:48 |
| ogra_ | tedg, it is ubuntu-touch-session nowadays | 13:50 |
| ogra_ | same as the package name | 13:50 |
| tedg | ogra_, The topics here are orthogonal. Sure, handling the full root case is important, but more looking to figure out what you mean by "session manager". | 13:51 |
| tedg | ogra_, It seems to me it's more session init. | 13:51 |
| ogra_ | why do you care | 13:51 |
| ogra_ | it is the set of scripts being called on initing the session which manages our session startup ... does the naming really matter ? | 13:51 |
| tedg | Well, one, it was confusing and I hope to understand how things work. Two, I'm pretty sure we want unity-mir to be our session manager. | 13:51 |
| tedg | Session management has a kinda specific meaning. | 13:52 |
| tedg | gnome-session, ksession, XSMP, etc. | 13:52 |
| ogra_ | well, whatever ... i think it is pretty clear from my mail ... | 13:52 |
| ogra_ | nothing is allowed to write to $HOME for starting the session | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | while and after ... | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | no matter how you call it | 13:53 |
| tedg | Sure, and that's why I think they're orthogonal topics, but the naming confused me. | 13:55 |
| tedg | Also, I think it should be "nothing is allowed to fail on being unable to write," they're allowed to write. | 13:55 |
| ogra_ | well, we still want a usable session | 13:55 |
| ogra_ | but yeah | 13:56 |
| tedg | ogra_, So are you planning to file bugs on things that don't start? Or have some automated test for this? It seems like something that could easily leak back in. | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | tedg, not sure how easily we could create tests for that ... for now i will re-work ubuntu-touch-session and then go over the upstart jobs and poke people or file bugs (or both) | 13:59 |
| ogra_ | we could perhaps add a test where we just chmod -r /home/* or so | 13:59 |
| tedg | Yeah, seems that'd find the same bugs. Assuming people don't check for ro ;-) | 14:01 |
| ogra_ | right | 14:01 |
| ogra_ | the biggest obstacle atm is dbus here ... it writes a dot file and lots and lots of things already rely on this | 14:01 |
| ogra_ | so once i move it i'm pretty sure a lot will break | 14:02 |
| ogra_ | specifically in testing | 14:02 |
| tedg | I thought it also pushed then env var into Upstart? Race? | 14:02 |
| ogra_ | it does both, yeah ... | 14:03 |
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| ogra_ | echo "DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=${DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS}" >$HOME/.cache/upstart/dbus-session || true | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | initctl notify-dbus-address "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" || true | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | effectively ... | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | though it fails more likely in the pre-start ... | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | where there is no || true | 14:05 |
| tedg | Yeah, and no true on making the cache directory | 14:05 |
| ogra_ | (though the pre-start uses /tmp ... that should be fine ) | 14:06 |
| elopio | ping mardy: do you know what can cause a 'Timeout was reached' error on identity.store_credentials_with_info ? | 14:07 |
| elopio | that's happening on Jenkins, but everywhere else it seems to work nicely. | 14:08 |
| mterry | ogra_, I don't get it. The dialer-app autopilots seem to do the same thing the ofono script is doing, but one works and the other doesn't | 14:16 |
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| mardy | elopio: the signond logs from the syslog could be helpful | 14:18 |
| mardy | elopio: my first suspicion, is that the gnome-keyring module is installed and signond is waiting on it | 14:18 |
| elopio | mardy: I'll see if ci can get them from me. | 14:19 |
| elopio | *for | 14:19 |
| mardy | elopio: actually, I think that from the build logs it should be possible to see if the keyring was being installed | 14:19 |
| awe_ | mterry, what's the issue you're having with ofono? | 14:20 |
| elopio | mardy: http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic/45/artifact/dpkg-l.post.log | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | mterry, hehe, ask pitti ... he developed the ofono-phonesim stuff and the tests too iirc | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | awe_, hey ... | 14:21 |
| mterry | awe_, I can't get the test scripts that fake incoming calls or texts to work. They used to, but they don't for me right now. Despite dialer-app tests working | 14:21 |
| elopio | mardy: so, we shouldn't install the gnome-keyring ? | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | awe_, so after the ofono landing messaging-app fails reliably on flo ... could you take a look at that ? (worked before the change) | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | awe_, http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/flo/17:20140508:20140506.1/7914/messaging_app/ | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | (not super urgent since we dont block landings on flo issues ... but should be fixed nontheless) | 14:22 |
| awe_ | ogra_, flo doesn't have a modem, correct? | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | awe_, right | 14:22 |
| awe_ | ogra_, I don't have a flo to test | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | but phonesim already had changed before ... | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | so only the ofono change seems to have caused this | 14:23 |
| mardy | elopio: yes, or at least remove signon-keyring-extension -- I wonder what's pulling that in? | 14:23 |
| mterry | ogra_, do you use the incoming call/text scripts yourself? | 14:23 |
| mterry | sory | 14:23 |
| mterry | awe_, ^ is what I meant | 14:23 |
| awe_ | ogra_, the only thing I can think of is that this is a result of the changes made to phonesim by Wellark's team | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | awe_, but these had landed before and the tests didnt fail | 14:24 |
| awe_ | what do you mean "landed before"? | 14:24 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: is there a reason why we run the phone tests on a tablet? | 14:24 |
| elopio | mardy: that comes installed on the machine. But I also have it on my desktop, and it doesn't cause any problems here. | 14:24 |
| awe_ | haha | 14:24 |
| * awe_ hugs davmor2 | 14:24 | |
| ogra_ | awe_, phonesim is in the image since a week, but the failing started yesterday (on the last two images) | 14:25 |
| awe_ | that said, the messaging app might use other back-ends at some point | 14:25 |
| awe_ | ogra_, no you misunderstood me | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | awe_, aha | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-touch-flo-smoke-daily/31/artifact/clientlogs/messaging_app/_usr_share_ofono_scripts_list-modems.32011.crash/*view*/ | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.ofono was not provided by any .service files | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | there we go | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | davmor2, i dont know, i dont define which tests we run where :) | 14:26 |
| awe_ | ogra_, that just means ofono isn't running, and dbus activation can't start it | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | but the test passed before and fails since yesterday | 14:26 |
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| ogra_ | awe_, and ofono wont start if there is no ril ;) | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | as per our changes | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | before it still started but didnt attach to a non-existing ril | 14:27 |
| rsalveti | morning | 14:27 |
| awe_ | ogra_, hmmm | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | same thing on manta btw ... | 14:28 |
| * awe_ takes a look at the ofono-phonesim package | 14:28 | |
| awe_ | give me a few minutes to dig here | 14:28 |
| awe_ | ogra_, that said, I agree with davmor2 that we shouldn't be running tests that rely on 'list-modems' on devices that don't have any modems | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | awe_, well, might be ... that would be up to QA and CI to decide/discuss i think | 14:30 |
| awe_ | also ogra_ I thought prior to this change, ofono would exit if no ril | 14:30 |
| ogra_ | awe_, though it worked fine before | 14:30 |
| elopio | mardy: unity-control-center-signon is the one that depends on it. | 14:30 |
| mardy | elopio: yes, because on the desktop it works fine. I wonder on the CI bots, though... | 14:30 |
| ogra_ | -phonesim-autostart should probably froce ofono to start now or some such | 14:30 |
| awe_ | ogra_, well... I guess I need to change the test plan to require running autopilot tests on all devices | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | i dont think ofono exited | 14:31 |
| mardy | elopio: the keyring gets automatically unlocked by lightdm when you log in, IIRC | 14:31 |
| awe_ | I do | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | ok | 14:31 |
| mardy | elopio: I wonder how the login works in the bots | 14:31 |
| awe_ | but whatever give me some time to investigate | 14:31 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: but it works fine now on mako right? | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | awe_, as i said, no hurry :) we dont block on flo issues | 14:32 |
| elopio | mardy: ok, I'm going to ci to ask. | 14:32 |
| awe_ | ogra_, the old script definitely exits if it can't verify the existence of the socket | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | davmor2, yes, that didnt change ... dialer on flo wroks too, just messaging stopped | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | awe_, hmm, i guess then phonesim-autostart handled it differently | 14:33 |
| ogra_ | providing a fake ofono dbus service or some such | 14:33 |
| nik90 | tvoss: ping | 14:34 |
| tvoss | nik90, pong | 14:37 |
| nik90 | tvoss: Hi, I wanted to talk to you about https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/platform-api/hw-alarms-api/+merge/210592 | 14:37 |
| ogra_ | land it !!! | 14:38 |
| tvoss | nik90, yup, what do you need? | 14:38 |
| nik90 | tvoss: When can we expect that to be merged? I understand that is the MP which will allow alarms to ring when the phone is in deep sleep. right? | 14:38 |
| * ogra_ wants his screen to turn on when an alarm rises | 14:38 | |
| nik90 | tvoss: and what ogra_ said ^^ | 14:38 |
| tvoss | nik90, it will wake up the phone, yes | 14:38 |
| ogra_ | current behavior is utterly annoying | 14:38 |
| cwayne | popey, ping | 14:39 |
| tvoss | nik90, ogra_ sure, fully understand that :) it's mostly done, shared a custom system.img with charles for testing purposes | 14:39 |
| nik90 | tvoss: charles just informed me that it will land coming mon or tues | 14:40 |
| popey | cwayne: pong | 14:40 |
| tvoss | nik90, yup | 14:40 |
| nik90 | tvoss: that's really comforting to hear. The earlier that is in the better alarm testing I can do in real life :0 | 14:40 |
| nik90 | :) | 14:40 |
| cwayne | popey, hey, what're the plans for core apps to switch to the new headers once they land? | 14:41 |
| popey | cwayne: wanted to test with one app first to iron out some of the bugs, music already switched | 14:41 |
| popey | cwayne: music app devs have been working with tim p on it. | 14:42 |
| popey | cwayne: I didn't want to break every single app at once. | 14:42 |
| popey | cwayne: music apps have a backwards compatible method, which means you get old toolbar on 14.04 and new toolbar on 14.10 | 14:42 |
| cwayne | popey, perfect, what about the calendar app? | 14:44 |
| popey | that could be next. | 14:45 |
| popey | I'll take a look | 14:45 |
| popey | also, clock, nik90 might be interested in that. ☻ | 14:46 |
| cwayne | popey, for the music one, did they literally just set useDeprecatedToolbar to false, or are they implementing bottom swipe as well? | 14:47 |
| popey | no bottom swipes yet | 14:47 |
| cwayne | so just moving actions from toolbar to header? | 14:47 |
| popey | yes | 14:47 |
| cwayne | cool beans | 14:48 |
| cwayne | thanks popey | 14:48 |
| cwayne | is that in the image already? | 14:48 |
| nik90 | popey,cwayne: Well I am interested in transitioning the clock app to use the new headers | 14:49 |
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| popey | nik90: seen https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/use-sdk-back-button-take2/+merge/218534 ? | 14:49 |
| popey | cwayne: music is | 14:49 |
| nik90 | popey, cwayne: I think it should be a relatively simple task. But I need to first wait on the MP which adds toolbars actions to the header first before doing this. | 14:49 |
| nik90 | popey: no I just saw it now...t1mp has made it really easy to transition to it. | 14:50 |
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| ogra_ | bah .. new header ... that thing that drives me back to android :( | 14:54 |
| bact | header? | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | yeah, the bottom toolbar is gone soon | 14:54 |
| bact | the one which required a guesture? | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | and moves to a new header bar ... which in turn means your back button is at the top left | 14:55 |
| bact | Cool, that sounds better | 14:55 |
| popey | Uh oh, don't get him started | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | might sound nice but is completely unusable with one hand | 14:55 |
| popey | HULK SMASH! | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | haha | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | unless you have a 10cm long thumb | 14:56 |
| davmor2 | popey: that's just daft if you have hands the size of the hulk you have no issue | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | true ! | 14:56 |
| popey | I doubt the hulk spends much of his day daintily pressing buttons on a touch screen | 14:56 |
| cwayne | works for me with one hand | 14:57 |
| davmor2 | cwayne: ditto | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | cwayne, you can reach the search option (or close below) when holding your phone with one hand ? | 14:57 |
| davmor2 | cwayne: I think ogra_ just needs a lesson in how to hold a phone ;) | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | well, i hold it so that it cant slip while walking | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | bottom right corner pinting into my palm | 14:58 |
| cwayne | yeah | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | then i can reach with my thump to about 2/3 from the bottom of the screen | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | about 3cm below where i need to reach | 14:58 |
| bact | ogra_: don't buy a 6" phone then | 15:00 |
| ogra_ | bact, i only use the one phone we support | 15:00 |
| ogra_ | and the ones we will sell arent smaller | 15:01 |
| bact | sell a smaller one | 15:01 |
| bact | phones are too big, if anyone could buck the trend, canonical could | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | there is a certain radius you can reach with your thumb no matter how you hold the phone ... within that radius the most important functions need to be reachable imho | 15:01 |
| bact | yeah, that's what all the apple fans were saying when apple were still producing 3.5" phones admist 5" androids | 15:02 |
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| dpm | Hi all, so I've installed image #17 using the dual boot app (as I usually do). The result is that I've got a completely blank dash - no scopes shown at all. Any ideas on how to debug that? | 15:14 |
| dpm | mhr3, perhaps you would know how to bring scopes back to life? :-) | 15:15 |
| mhr3 | dpm, ps aux | grep scoper | 15:15 |
| mhr3 | dpm, cat ~/.cache/upstart/scope-registry.log | 15:16 |
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| dpm | mhr3, aha -> scoperegistry: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid | 15:17 |
| mhr3 | dpm, `/sbin/initctl list-env | grep L[CA]` ? | 15:18 |
| dpm | mhr3, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7416574/ - hm, I wonder why I get two different locales | 15:20 |
| dpm | I've changed it now via system settings | 15:21 |
| dpm | to be en_US | 15:21 |
| dpm | rebooting now to see if that fixes it | 15:21 |
| mhr3 | it will | 15:21 |
| mhr3 | the adb locale doesn't matter really | 15:21 |
| mhr3 | the upstart one counts | 15:21 |
| dpm | mhr3, indeed it's fixed. I'm still not sure I can follow the difference between adb locale and upstart locale, though... | 15:22 |
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| mhr3 | dpm, the real question is why doesn't it like your locale | 15:23 |
| mhr3 | pete-woods, it's because of the frickin boost::filesystem :P | 15:24 |
| pete-woods | mhr3: :( | 15:25 |
| dpm | mhr3, it was because it's not installed by default: I had to set the image to RW and run locale-gen. It seems the image update removed the locale, but the environment variables were still set, pointing to a locale that no longer existed | 15:27 |
| mhr3 | dpm, what does locale-gen do? | 15:29 |
| dpm | mhr3, it essentially creates the locale. It compiles a bunch of files into what the system recognizes as a locale | 15:30 |
| loicm | mardy: hey, I've just reviewed your patch for the ubuntu shape | 15:30 |
| loicm | mardy: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/lp1296728/+merge/218617 | 15:30 |
| mhr3 | dpm, i still fail to see why should boost fail to work when that isn't generated | 15:30 |
| dpm | no idea | 15:32 |
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| slangasek | ogra_: +1 for avoiding writes to $HOME from the jobs! I think a lot of these were workarounds for upstart bugs that should now be fixed; maybe they can just go away now? | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, right, now it bites back ... u knew it would one day ;) | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | *i knew | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | so until malta i'll start a big claen sweep ... (there are other ugly bits like pre filling /etc/environment at build time etc( | 15:51 |
| popey | JamesTait: i hear there was a private branch on the bug i filed about 100 apps returned? | 16:05 |
| popey | JamesTait: does that mean we will now get more than 100 returned? | 16:05 |
| JamesTait | popey, not by default, but when the branch lands you'll be able to specify a page size. | 16:06 |
| JamesTait | popey, /api/v1/search?size=9999&page=1 | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | JamesTait, would it be possible to coordinate such changes with the client side in the future ? we were even discussion to block image promotions on that today, thats a pretyt gross regression | 16:07 |
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| ogra_ | *discussing | 16:10 |
| JamesTait | ogra_, ordinarily we would have done, but this change was pushed out on Tuesday morning, when I was returning from two weeks' holiday. ;) | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | heh, ok :) | 16:11 |
| JamesTait | ogra_, literally as I sat down to work, in fact. :-P | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | yeah, no worries then, sh*t happens ;) | 16:12 |
| mardy | loicm: thanks! | 16:21 |
| zyga | ogra_: bad irc server ;-) | 16:23 |
| ogra_ | heh | 16:23 |
| zyga | ogra_: so how do I run qmlscene on the tablet after I've adb-d in? | 16:23 |
| ogra_ | heh, i never did that ... for UI stuff probably try #ubuntu-app-devel ... there are the qmlscene masters :) | 16:24 |
| ogra_ | (not true, i didnt that once in quantal ... but forgot how ... today i just roll myself a click package) | 16:25 |
| ogra_ | *i did | 16:25 |
| zyga | ogra_: I've made the filesystem writable and I just want to hack around a simple qml file and a way to run it | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | yes, i understand what you want but i dont know anymore how to do it that way | 16:27 |
| zyga | ogra_: sorry, I don't complain :-) | 16:27 |
| ogra_ | :) | 16:27 |
| zyga | ogra_: I'm just thinking aloud while googling and checking sdk docs | 16:27 |
| ogra_ | theoretically just qmlscene /path/to/qml.qml | 16:28 |
| ogra_ | probably you need to use --desktop_file_hint= and point that to some random .desktop file | 16:28 |
| ogra_ | and in any case you need to be the pahblet user "sudo -u phablet -i" will give you the proper env | 16:29 |
| zyga | ogra_: qmlscene: could not exec '/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt4/bin/qmlscene': No such file or directory | 16:30 |
| zyga | ogra_: that's as phablet | 16:30 |
| ogra_ | phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ which qmlscene | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | /usr/bin/qmlscene | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | weird | 16:31 |
| zyga | yeah | 16:31 |
| zyga | could it be apparmor preventing me to execute stuff? | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | no | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | not from commandline | 16:31 |
| zyga | oh, it's a symlink to qtchooser | 16:31 |
| zyga | why did it try to run qt4? IIRC we're on qt5 right? | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | yes | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/bin/qmlscene ... | 16:32 |
| zyga | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7416972/ | 16:32 |
| ogra_ | try the path above | 16:33 |
| zyga | same | 16:33 |
| ogra_ | with the qt5 path ? | 16:33 |
| zyga | I think it crashes because it cannot create 'application instance' | 16:33 |
| zyga | yeah | 16:33 |
| zyga | this is on 'devel' version, flashed a moment ago | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | strange ... well, as i said, i dont do much Qt ... #ubuntu-app-devel might knwo | 16:34 |
| zyga | thanks | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | (well, i do Qt but click packages just work) | 16:34 |
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| davmor2 | pmcgowan: the scopes carousel does that fall under unity8 for a bug report? | 19:11 |
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| pmcgowan | davmor2, I would say yes | 19:26 |
| davmor2 | pmcgowan: email sent to the phone mailing list with regard to the issues I hit on manta then | 19:27 |
| davmor2 | pmcgowan: title is Quirks particular to manta (nexus 10) | 19:32 |
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| pmcgowan | davmor2, ok will check it out | 19:33 |
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| sergiusens | ogra_: zyga QT_SELECT=qt5 iirc | 19:57 |
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| dobey | is there any way for an app to prevent screen lock/blank under mir on the phone? | 20:15 |
| popey | ooh, I'd like that. | 20:16 |
| popey | I want this app on Ubuntu https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.doublep.wakey | 20:16 |
| dobey | ugh | 20:17 |
| dobey | i just want proper support for having apps keep the screen from blanking | 20:18 |
| dobey | i mean, i can do it with xorg on my workstation without problem | 20:18 |
| popey | well, media-app can do it, see how that does it? ☻ | 20:19 |
| dobey | of course, firefox/chrome don't do it magically when i'm in a hangout or anything, which is a bit annoying, but at least the support is there | 20:19 |
| * popey pokes jhodapp | 20:19 | |
| dobey | oh it does? | 20:19 |
| popey | sorry, mediaplayer-app, yes, it does now | 20:19 |
| jhodapp | popey, ouch | 20:19 |
| popey | \o/ | 20:19 |
| dobey | i don't have any videos on my phone, so all i get is an ugly error when i open it | 20:20 |
| jhodapp | dobey, yes, if you use MediaPlayer from your app (QML or Qt components), it'll play video and keep the screen from blanking or locking | 20:20 |
| dobey | and it calls the scope a lens | 20:20 |
| jhodapp | dobey, it'll be getting some love...it's a neglected app | 20:21 |
| jhodapp | dobey, it was one of the very first UT apps | 20:21 |
| dobey | jhodapp: well i'm not wanting to play video, but if i can poke at the source, and can actually do the same thing from my own app under confinement, i'm happy ot have that be an answer for now | 20:21 |
| jhodapp | dobey, sorry, what is it that you want to do exactly? | 20:22 |
| dobey | jhodapp: a map app for a game | 20:23 |
| jhodapp | dobey, ah ok, that's out of the scope of media-hub then | 20:23 |
| dobey | yeah | 20:23 |
| jhodapp | dobey, you should ping mandel on how to accomplish that, he's taking on powerd | 20:24 |
| popey | jhodapp: i was more poking you because you know how to keep the screen on when your app is running | 20:24 |
| jhodapp | popey, yeah, it's not my app, it's media-hub which has permission to do that :) | 20:24 |
| popey | oh | 20:24 |
| popey | bummer | 20:24 |
| jhodapp | popey, I'm not sure how a random app will accomplish that | 20:24 |
| jhodapp | but mandel should be able to help with that | 20:25 |
| dobey | oh | 20:30 |
| dobey | doea media-hub support mp4? | 20:43 |
| popey | dobey: i test touch with mp4 videos, and they work | 21:13 |
| popey | dobey: h264 encoded ones specifically | 21:13 |
| dobey | oh | 21:19 |
| sergiusens | popey: keeping the screen on is for a trusted helper only afaik | 21:42 |
| slangasek | rsalveti: why did Package: libqt5multimediawidgets5-gles add a Pre-Depends on dpkg that libqt5multimediawidgets5 doesn't have? | 21:44 |
| rsalveti | slangasek: there was a new package update that removed that line yesterday | 21:45 |
| slangasek | rsalveti: ok | 21:45 |
| rsalveti | but I didn't yet updated the package because I wanted the review to happen first | 21:45 |
| * slangasek nods | 21:45 | |
| dobey | sergiusens: oh? ugh :( | 21:52 |
| slangasek | rsalveti: your qtubuntu-gles upload didn't drop the Vcs-Bzr field, most of the uploads did? | 22:10 |
| rsalveti | slangasek: yeah, let me write that down so I can fix during next upload | 22:11 |
| rsalveti | it seems that's the last src package in the queue | 22:11 |
| rsalveti | but then needs to wait for bin approval as well | 22:12 |
| * slangasek nods | 22:12 | |
| slangasek | rsalveti: why make a separate qtubuntu-android-gles? Why shouldn't this take over the qtubuntu-android package name completely? | 22:12 |
| slangasek | (are we going to have OpenGL android builds on x86?) | 22:13 |
| rsalveti | slangasek: the problem is that qtubuntu uses a static library from qt, available in qt5-private-dev | 22:13 |
| rsalveti | bundles that inside it's own shared library | 22:13 |
| rsalveti | so it needs to be built against the right qt version | 22:13 |
| slangasek | ok; but why do we need both qtubuntu-android and qtubuntu-android-gles? | 22:14 |
| rsalveti | so if I build against qt5-gles, then qtubuntu-desktop will be broken | 22:14 |
| rsalveti | we don't | 22:14 |
| rsalveti | we just need one qtubuntu-android | 22:14 |
| rsalveti | I can probably remove it from the older package | 22:14 |
| rsalveti | and rename this one | 22:14 |
| slangasek | right; that's what I'm arguing for | 22:14 |
| rsalveti | but that needs to happen only when building for !armhf | 22:14 |
| rsalveti | so that's why I thought it'd be easier to just have another bin for it | 22:15 |
| rsalveti | but I can rework this | 22:15 |
| slangasek | ok - it's certainly allowed to have one binary package built from two different source packgaes | 22:15 |
| rsalveti | yeah | 22:15 |
| rsalveti | will change that | 22:16 |
| slangasek | and I think that's preferable here; can you sort that out and re-upload, so that we don't have qtubuntu-android-gles in binary NEW? | 22:16 |
| rsalveti | slangasek: yup | 22:16 |
| slangasek | thanks | 22:16 |
| slangasek | rsalveti: doing the binary NEW now; FYI: E: libqt5quickparticles5-gles: malformed-override Possibly wrong package in override at line 3 (got libqt5quickparticles5, expected libqt5quickparticles5-gles) | 22:18 |
| rsalveti | thanks | 22:18 |
| slangasek | sergiusens: the latest nuntium changes LGTM. Does this need sponsored to the NEW queue? BTW, have you checked how nuntium fares in terms of memory usage when built with gccgo - since that's an ongoing area of concern? | 22:29 |
| sergiusens | slangasek: that's a task I have set for tomorrow AM; this app is very small and not as resource intensive as juju though | 22:32 |
| sergiusens | slangasek: if you have time for sponsoring, that's good, but I can also ask ogra_ in the AM tomorrow as well | 22:32 |
| miky_ | hello | 22:46 |
| miky_ | is anyone there? | 22:46 |
| miky_ | hey | 22:50 |
| miky_ | you are sleeping? | 22:55 |
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| vthompson | The new Mir on Utopic on my N4 seems to have broken my screenshooter script and the functionality in qtcreator doesn't work either. Anyone have an updated script? | 23:15 |
| ahayzen_ | vthompson, there was an issue where it adds _60hz to the file path try this script Alan gave me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7418739/ | 23:22 |
| vthompson | ahayzen_, woot that worked! Thanks! | 23:23 |
| ahayzen_ | vthompson, \o/ | 23:23 |
| ahayzen_ | vthompson, resolved the conflicts, pull if ur brave ;) https://code.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/use-mediascanner2.0 | 23:25 |
| vthompson | ahayzen_, well pulling's the easy part. I'll test when I'm feeling brave enough ;) | 23:27 |
| ahayzen_ | vthompson, hehe | 23:27 |
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