=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [01:22] slangasek: I've finished updating the MP; I also added the core dev team to phablet-team (invite) [01:25] the few tests in there use code paths with reflection, so I guess I'm not affected by the strip problem; I'll test now and verify [01:44] sergiusens: dh_strip would happen after dh_auto_test, regardless [01:45] right === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === vying is now known as Guest98893 [06:48] good morning [07:32] FYI I've started Qt 5.3 RC "cut all corners" builds now (qt5-daily PPA if anyone interested) [07:56] Good morning all; happy No Socks Day! :-D [07:57] popey, taking a quick look into Bug #1317233 for you now. [07:57] bug 1317233 in Click Package Index "Store only returning 100 results" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317233 [07:57] thanks [07:58] I suspect we put a limit on the results - pagination is WIP. [08:14] popey, yep, we have a configurable limit on the default page size that defaults to 100. Branch to add pagination landed in trunk last night, but isn't in production yet. [08:15] JamesTait: pagination to the backend? [08:16] thats a real shame, it breaks the user experience on the phone, and breaks my script for downloading all clicks - which has been a valuable tool for debugging - multiple times. [08:17] popey, yeah, I think we dropped the ball on this one. :( [08:17] can it be flipped back until all the moving pieces are in place? [08:18] yeah, its quite a bad regression [08:19] hi all. I have installed ubuntu touch on a nexus 4 in dual boot. When I try to install any additional app, I always got an Download Error. Internet connection works fine in general. [08:20] which image are you on ? (version number) [08:25] 303 [08:25] trusty === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [09:02] mardy: Hi sorry I missed this chat yesterday - was distracted by lots of meetings. The short answer is I don't know. I've asked JohnLea to share the online acocunts spec with me so that I can understand that better. Current thinking is that the scope will have an add account button but we haven't specced that out yet [09:19] mikenagle: no worries, thanks for coming back :-) [09:20] mikenagle: we should have a meeting about that on Friday, I'll ask dbarth to invite you as well [09:22] pete-woods, you are still working on the hud, right ? (i just noticed that bug 1299806 is not fixed and was actually in the released trusty image too) [09:22] bug 1299806 in hud (Ubuntu) "the hud package ships a messed up upstart session job" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1299806 [09:22] mardy; we will be discussing this at the meeting tomorrow [09:23] mardy; mike already has too many meetings and has got loads of stuff to do, so for meeting tomorrow you will get Yolanda and myself [09:23] ogra_: it's definitely got my attention, I'm going to fix it with an SRU [09:23] mardy; need to cut down on meetings so we can get other dash items finished before malta [09:23] pete-woods, well, at least fix it in utopic :) (nobody uses the stable image anyway yet) [09:26] Morning all [09:30] JohnLea: sounds good! [09:33] sil2100, is there no way to unblock silo 001 to land? [09:33] sil2100, sorry, good morning ;) [09:38] mandel: morning! I was poking some people today about that ;) [09:38] sil2100, sweet, let me know if you got some info and if you need anything from me [09:40] * Laney types his lastpass-generated-with-loads-of-symbols sso password for the 999th time [09:40] tedious [10:31] balloons, ping re bug #1317161 [10:31] bug 1317161 in Click Package Index "Add last_updated field to store json api feed" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317161 [10:32] balloons, specifically, do you want this field available in the search results (/api/v1/search) or only in the package detail (/api/v1/package/xxx)? [10:34] sergiusens / asac which image can I expect reminders to be preinstalled in? [10:36] popey: is there no other way to get proper exposure for this app? [10:36] like old fashion blogging etc.? [10:37] asac: why would you not want it in? [10:38] sergiusens: does it fulfill an essential feature that all users of smartphone want to have? [10:39] asac: it's a core app [10:40] that doesnt answer the question :) [10:40] asac: hmm, how about pat asked for it to be in and he owns the apps side? [10:40] right. he said the main reason he wants it in is testing/user exposure [10:40] anyone? Cannot push /home/nick/.cache/ubuntuimages/ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/mako/version-17.tar.xz.asc to device: free space on /cache/recovery is file [10:41] sergiusens: anyway, we are talking in management what to do. independent we seem to agree that the name is kind of misleading. no way to find something better? [10:41] stay tuned [10:41] * asac goes lunch [10:42] asac: I really don't mind and don't decide the names ;-) [10:42] or if it goes in; I just let design management tell me about that side [10:42] ok, maybe not so "cut all corners" method then [10:43] dednick: if you are flashing for the first time use --bootstrap [10:43] dednick: if you did partition resizing use --bootstrap as well [10:52] sergiusens: thanks! === zenvoid_ is now known as zenvoid [11:02] * Laney spanks ofono-phonesim-autostart [11:02] you bad bad thing === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:49] sergiusens, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/phablet-tools/force-mirscreencast-filename/+merge/218788 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:49] fixed phablet-screenshot === fmasi is now known as Guest1827 [11:54] popey, was there a bug for the screenshot issue ? [11:56] the what? [11:56] i think they may have undone the 60Hz thing [11:56] mir_screencast_768x1280.rgba is the filename on my latest image [11:57] well, i added an MP anyway [11:57] that will use a fixed filename no matter how they change the default around [11:57] i just thought there was a bug for it [11:57] (to include in the MP) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:01] ogra_: care to link the bug? [12:01] just trying to ... LP fails [12:01] ah, worked this time [12:02] ogra_: popey I was steaming down before fixing it as I added the last item in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlans/Mir to prevent this :-/ [12:03] well, with my fix they can change as they like (as long as the -f option persists) [12:04] ogra_: I wish we could see full files on launchpad, now I have to download to recall what $1 was :-P [12:04] size [12:05] it is handed over to the function from an fbset call [12:06] ogra_: why don't you replace that with $size? [12:07] done [12:12] approved [12:17] thx [12:21] ah, thanks for setting the commit message ... i always forget that [12:32] jhodapp, that media-hub override file we once added to lxc-android-config to set some env vars ... is that still needed ? [12:32] ogra_: is there a way to print inside a shell function? === gnu is now known as Guest53933 [12:33] echo ? printf ? [12:33] ogra_: I think it's saved as a return value [12:34] ogra_: so if exit is called within the function nothing gets echoed [12:35] ogra_: nevermind; I think I have syntax errors :-/ [12:35] weird, echo should always work [12:35] as long as it is run before exit at least [12:38] ogra_: ah, set -e :-) [12:38] oh, yeah, sou should always do that :) [12:38] *you [12:38] * ogra_ often even uses -eu ... [12:38] yeah it's eu [12:46] ogra_: can you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-tools/screenshot_with_multiple_devices/+merge/218795 ? [12:47] thanks neat [12:47] s/thanks/thats/ [12:47] sergiusens, why not append SERIAL to ADBOPTS ? i think CI uses the latter [12:48] ogra_: some statements were missing ADBOPTS [12:48] well, better ask if they need that before dropping it (though do they use phablet-screenshot at all ?) [12:49] ogra_: I'm mostly sure they also declare ANDROID_SERIAL [12:49] ogra_: it would of failed for them by now :-P [12:49] ok [12:49] approved [12:50] ogra_: I don't think the use ADBOPTS as if they did phablet-network would fail (it declares it as empty inside) [12:50] oh, ok :) [12:50] ogra_: variable name is just a coincidence, I guess they do 'phablet-network $ADBOPTS" [12:51] ogra_: set -e always makes me waste a bit more time than desired :-) shell scripts should print stack traces :-P [12:55] set -x [12:55] :P [12:59] sergiusens: popey: ok go ahead with reminders [12:59] asac: sergiusens I spoke to pmcgowan about it.. [12:59] he suggested we wait until the app has been switched to point to the real evernote server [12:59] rather than the sandbox one === john-mca` is now known as john-mcaleely [13:00] hmm [13:00] popey: ok let me talk to pat in a bit [13:00] I did not know one needed to make a special account to use it [13:00] kindof a barrier to using it [13:00] ogra_, yes still needed [13:01] ok [13:01] ogra_, always will be [13:01] i thought you ship it with media-hub itslef now === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:01] asac, I am flexible on it, but I suspect my goal will not be met for having it get used more [13:01] ogra_, oh I see what you're saying, let me check (I didn't add that personally if we do) [13:01] pmcgowan: chicken and egg problems :-) [13:01] exactly [13:01] my words to pitkin [13:02] jhodapp, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7185378/ was the change [13:03] oh, i see, you indeed wouldnt want that on desktop ... so lxc-android-config is the right place [13:03] ogra_, right [13:04] jhodapp: ogra_ we dscussed that, we decided we'd do something similar for powerd where media-hub would detect it's in android; it's probably missing the task for it in our tracker [13:04] pmcgowan: /msg [13:04] sergiusens, yeah, i was just going through open tabs in my browser ... i usually keep them open as reminder that there still needs to be done something [13:05] sergiusens, right, though I'd like to see what powerd is doing exactly because the lxc-android-config solution is a good one [13:05] jhodapp: I guess you missed the discussion on reducing overrides on the phone list :-) [13:06] sergiusens, yeah I guess I did [13:06] sergiusens, but that's reducing, doesn't mean eliminate :) [13:06] well, it is an android specific override ... [13:07] yeah, this won't break today ;-) [13:07] right [13:09] jhodapp: do you link with hybris? [13:09] jhodapp, wow, thats weird, how can resize2fs work without actually having the space allocated on the img ... [13:09] jhodapp: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/powerd/trunk/revision/115#src/powerd.cpp [13:10] ogra_, not sure, rsalveti gave me that trick and ricmm uses it too [13:10] * ogra_ wonders if there isnt just the metadata of the filesystem updated but you dont actually have the extra space [13:10] sergiusens, media-hub doesn't link with hybris, though it might start to with the camera recording addition [13:10] ogra_, no I definitely do :) [13:10] weird [13:10] ogra_, I ran out of space before, and then I didn't [13:11] jhodapp: well if you do; you have an easy way to detect androidness ;-) [13:11] "The size of the filesystem may never be larger than the size of the partition. If size parameter is not [13:11] specified, it will default to the size of the partition." [13:12] jhodapp, ^^^from the manpage ... [13:12] so i wonder how that works [13:12] also: [13:12] ogra_, lol, I'll leave you to figure that out, I only had time to care that it works :) [13:12] " The resize2fs program does not manipulate the size of partitions. If you wish to enlarge a filesystem, you must make sure [13:12] you can expand the size of the underlying partition first. " [13:13] so weird [13:14] pmcgowan asac popey feel free to approve https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/click-sync/reminders/+merge/218803 when you want reminders in the image [13:14] thanks sergiusens, I'll take a look at that [13:15] thanks sergiusens [13:30] ogra_, have you used ofono-phonesim-autostart recently? Seems to be broken [13:31] mterry, our automatic test suite uses it constantly [13:31] seems to be broken with messaging-app on flo since the last two images ... mako and manta are fine though [13:31] * ogra_ is waiting for awe to talk about that [13:31] ogra_, yesterday and today I flashed a new mako and installed the package, I can't dial 199 anymore to receive a call [13:32] mterry, http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/mako/17:20140508:20140506.1/7915/dialer_app/ ... well ... works fine in the test suite [13:33] ogra_, hmm... I wonder if there's some other dep I need [13:33] My script for sending a fake text also isn't working [13:33] (test_incoming is the one that uses the 199 feature) [13:33] I'll try running the dialer app autopilot. Presumably it will work [13:34] it should :) [13:34] else our test suite lies [13:40] ogra_, So I'm a bit confused when you say "session manager" in your email about full home. [13:40] ogra_, Do you mean just session configuration? [13:40] i mean anything that writes to home on session startup [13:40] and yes, i mean a bunch of your upstart jobs too :) [13:41] ogra_, "our session manager itself as well as…" [13:41] right [13:41] What do you mean by session manager there/ [13:41] ? [13:41] ubuntu-touch-session has a bunch of scripts [13:41] plus there are the upstart jobs [13:41] Okay, but none of those are a session manager, right? [13:41] They're more session init. [13:41] and things like autopilot rely on having some info about the system available from files and env vars [13:42] well, i mean everything in ubuntu-touch-session plus all jobs in /usr/share/upstart/session/ [13:43] I thought most of ubuntu-touch-session was things that phonedations hadn't gotten around to upstreaming? [13:43] * tedg checks it out [13:43] no [13:44] there is session-manager-touch ... and usc-wrapper for example [13:44] but there are also scripts that write stuff to ~/.bashrc to make certain vars available to the adb shell [13:44] dont worry about ubuntu-touch-session, i'm caring for that [13:44] but please teake a look at hud and other upstart jobs you own [13:48] I don't see "session-manager-touch" [13:48] was renamed ... but ignore that i'll take care of it [13:48] more important is that the upstart jobs get cleaned alongside [13:48] the indicator besides My Apps points down by default like v - i found that a bit confusing as for me it means all items are shown but here it's the opposite [13:50] tedg, it is ubuntu-touch-session nowadays [13:50] same as the package name [13:51] ogra_, The topics here are orthogonal. Sure, handling the full root case is important, but more looking to figure out what you mean by "session manager". [13:51] ogra_, It seems to me it's more session init. [13:51] why do you care [13:51] it is the set of scripts being called on initing the session which manages our session startup ... does the naming really matter ? [13:51] Well, one, it was confusing and I hope to understand how things work. Two, I'm pretty sure we want unity-mir to be our session manager. [13:52] Session management has a kinda specific meaning. [13:52] gnome-session, ksession, XSMP, etc. [13:52] well, whatever ... i think it is pretty clear from my mail ... [13:53] nothing is allowed to write to $HOME for starting the session [13:53] while and after ... [13:53] no matter how you call it [13:55] Sure, and that's why I think they're orthogonal topics, but the naming confused me. [13:55] Also, I think it should be "nothing is allowed to fail on being unable to write," they're allowed to write. [13:55] well, we still want a usable session [13:56] but yeah [13:58] ogra_, So are you planning to file bugs on things that don't start? Or have some automated test for this? It seems like something that could easily leak back in. [13:59] tedg, not sure how easily we could create tests for that ... for now i will re-work ubuntu-touch-session and then go over the upstart jobs and poke people or file bugs (or both) [13:59] we could perhaps add a test where we just chmod -r /home/* or so [14:01] Yeah, seems that'd find the same bugs. Assuming people don't check for ro ;-) [14:01] right [14:01] the biggest obstacle atm is dbus here ... it writes a dot file and lots and lots of things already rely on this [14:02] so once i move it i'm pretty sure a lot will break [14:02] specifically in testing [14:02] I thought it also pushed then env var into Upstart? Race? [14:03] it does both, yeah ... === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [14:04] echo "DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=${DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS}" >$HOME/.cache/upstart/dbus-session || true [14:04] initctl notify-dbus-address "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" || true [14:04] effectively ... [14:04] though it fails more likely in the pre-start ... [14:05] where there is no || true [14:05] Yeah, and no true on making the cache directory [14:06] (though the pre-start uses /tmp ... that should be fine ) [14:07] ping mardy: do you know what can cause a 'Timeout was reached' error on identity.store_credentials_with_info ? [14:08] that's happening on Jenkins, but everywhere else it seems to work nicely. [14:16] ogra_, I don't get it. The dialer-app autopilots seem to do the same thing the ofono script is doing, but one works and the other doesn't === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === Guest1827 is now known as fmasi [14:18] elopio: the signond logs from the syslog could be helpful [14:18] elopio: my first suspicion, is that the gnome-keyring module is installed and signond is waiting on it [14:19] mardy: I'll see if ci can get them from me. [14:19] *for [14:19] elopio: actually, I think that from the build logs it should be possible to see if the keyring was being installed [14:20] mterry, what's the issue you're having with ofono? [14:21] mardy: http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic/45/artifact/dpkg-l.post.log [14:21] mterry, hehe, ask pitti ... he developed the ofono-phonesim stuff and the tests too iirc [14:21] awe_, hey ... [14:21] awe_, I can't get the test scripts that fake incoming calls or texts to work. They used to, but they don't for me right now. Despite dialer-app tests working [14:21] mardy: so, we shouldn't install the gnome-keyring ? [14:21] awe_, so after the ofono landing messaging-app fails reliably on flo ... could you take a look at that ? (worked before the change) [14:21] awe_, http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/flo/17:20140508:20140506.1/7914/messaging_app/ [14:22] (not super urgent since we dont block landings on flo issues ... but should be fixed nontheless) [14:22] ogra_, flo doesn't have a modem, correct? [14:22] awe_, right [14:22] ogra_, I don't have a flo to test [14:22] but phonesim already had changed before ... [14:23] so only the ofono change seems to have caused this [14:23] elopio: yes, or at least remove signon-keyring-extension -- I wonder what's pulling that in? [14:23] ogra_, do you use the incoming call/text scripts yourself? [14:23] sory [14:23] awe_, ^ is what I meant [14:23] ogra_, the only thing I can think of is that this is a result of the changes made to phonesim by Wellark's team [14:24] awe_, but these had landed before and the tests didnt fail [14:24] what do you mean "landed before"? [14:24] ogra_: is there a reason why we run the phone tests on a tablet? [14:24] mardy: that comes installed on the machine. But I also have it on my desktop, and it doesn't cause any problems here. [14:24] haha [14:24] * awe_ hugs davmor2 [14:25] awe_, phonesim is in the image since a week, but the failing started yesterday (on the last two images) [14:25] that said, the messaging app might use other back-ends at some point [14:25] ogra_, no you misunderstood me [14:25] awe_, aha [14:25] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-touch-flo-smoke-daily/31/artifact/clientlogs/messaging_app/_usr_share_ofono_scripts_list-modems.32011.crash/*view*/ [14:25] dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.ofono was not provided by any .service files [14:25] there we go [14:26] davmor2, i dont know, i dont define which tests we run where :) [14:26] ogra_, that just means ofono isn't running, and dbus activation can't start it [14:26] but the test passed before and fails since yesterday === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:26] awe_, and ofono wont start if there is no ril ;) [14:26] as per our changes [14:27] before it still started but didnt attach to a non-existing ril [14:27] morning [14:27] ogra_, hmmm [14:28] same thing on manta btw ... [14:28] * awe_ takes a look at the ofono-phonesim package [14:28] give me a few minutes to dig here [14:29] ogra_, that said, I agree with davmor2 that we shouldn't be running tests that rely on 'list-modems' on devices that don't have any modems [14:30] awe_, well, might be ... that would be up to QA and CI to decide/discuss i think [14:30] also ogra_ I thought prior to this change, ofono would exit if no ril [14:30] awe_, though it worked fine before [14:30] mardy: unity-control-center-signon is the one that depends on it. [14:30] elopio: yes, because on the desktop it works fine. I wonder on the CI bots, though... [14:30] -phonesim-autostart should probably froce ofono to start now or some such [14:31] ogra_, well... I guess I need to change the test plan to require running autopilot tests on all devices [14:31] i dont think ofono exited [14:31] elopio: the keyring gets automatically unlocked by lightdm when you log in, IIRC [14:31] I do [14:31] ok [14:31] elopio: I wonder how the login works in the bots [14:31] but whatever give me some time to investigate [14:32] ogra_: but it works fine now on mako right? [14:32] awe_, as i said, no hurry :) we dont block on flo issues [14:32] mardy: ok, I'm going to ci to ask. [14:32] ogra_, the old script definitely exits if it can't verify the existence of the socket [14:32] davmor2, yes, that didnt change ... dialer on flo wroks too, just messaging stopped [14:33] awe_, hmm, i guess then phonesim-autostart handled it differently [14:33] providing a fake ofono dbus service or some such [14:34] tvoss: ping [14:37] nik90, pong [14:37] tvoss: Hi, I wanted to talk to you about https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/platform-api/hw-alarms-api/+merge/210592 [14:38] land it !!! [14:38] nik90, yup, what do you need? [14:38] tvoss: When can we expect that to be merged? I understand that is the MP which will allow alarms to ring when the phone is in deep sleep. right? [14:38] * ogra_ wants his screen to turn on when an alarm rises [14:38] tvoss: and what ogra_ said ^^ [14:38] nik90, it will wake up the phone, yes [14:38] current behavior is utterly annoying [14:39] popey, ping [14:39] nik90, ogra_ sure, fully understand that :) it's mostly done, shared a custom system.img with charles for testing purposes [14:40] tvoss: charles just informed me that it will land coming mon or tues [14:40] cwayne: pong [14:40] nik90, yup [14:40] tvoss: that's really comforting to hear. The earlier that is in the better alarm testing I can do in real life :0 [14:40] :) [14:41] popey, hey, what're the plans for core apps to switch to the new headers once they land? [14:41] cwayne: wanted to test with one app first to iron out some of the bugs, music already switched [14:42] cwayne: music app devs have been working with tim p on it. [14:42] cwayne: I didn't want to break every single app at once. [14:42] cwayne: music apps have a backwards compatible method, which means you get old toolbar on 14.04 and new toolbar on 14.10 [14:44] popey, perfect, what about the calendar app? [14:45] that could be next. [14:45] I'll take a look [14:46] also, clock, nik90 might be interested in that. ☻ [14:47] popey, for the music one, did they literally just set useDeprecatedToolbar to false, or are they implementing bottom swipe as well? [14:47] no bottom swipes yet [14:47] so just moving actions from toolbar to header? [14:47] yes [14:48] cool beans [14:48] thanks popey [14:48] is that in the image already? [14:49] popey,cwayne: Well I am interested in transitioning the clock app to use the new headers === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:49] nik90: seen https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/use-sdk-back-button-take2/+merge/218534 ? [14:49] cwayne: music is [14:49] popey, cwayne: I think it should be a relatively simple task. But I need to first wait on the MP which adds toolbars actions to the header first before doing this. [14:50] popey: no I just saw it now...t1mp has made it really easy to transition to it. === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [14:54] bah .. new header ... that thing that drives me back to android :( [14:54] header? [14:54] yeah, the bottom toolbar is gone soon [14:55] the one which required a guesture? [14:55] and moves to a new header bar ... which in turn means your back button is at the top left [14:55] Cool, that sounds better [14:55] Uh oh, don't get him started [14:55] might sound nice but is completely unusable with one hand [14:55] HULK SMASH! [14:55] haha [14:56] unless you have a 10cm long thumb [14:56] popey: that's just daft if you have hands the size of the hulk you have no issue [14:56] true ! [14:56] I doubt the hulk spends much of his day daintily pressing buttons on a touch screen [14:57] works for me with one hand [14:57] cwayne: ditto [14:57] cwayne, you can reach the search option (or close below) when holding your phone with one hand ? [14:57] cwayne: I think ogra_ just needs a lesson in how to hold a phone ;) [14:57] well, i hold it so that it cant slip while walking [14:58] bottom right corner pinting into my palm [14:58] yeah [14:58] then i can reach with my thump to about 2/3 from the bottom of the screen [14:58] about 3cm below where i need to reach [15:00] ogra_: don't buy a 6" phone then [15:00] bact, i only use the one phone we support [15:01] and the ones we will sell arent smaller [15:01] sell a smaller one [15:01] phones are too big, if anyone could buck the trend, canonical could [15:01] there is a certain radius you can reach with your thumb no matter how you hold the phone ... within that radius the most important functions need to be reachable imho [15:02] yeah, that's what all the apple fans were saying when apple were still producing 3.5" phones admist 5" androids === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:14] Hi all, so I've installed image #17 using the dual boot app (as I usually do). The result is that I've got a completely blank dash - no scopes shown at all. Any ideas on how to debug that? [15:15] mhr3, perhaps you would know how to bring scopes back to life? :-) [15:15] dpm, ps aux | grep scoper [15:16] dpm, cat ~/.cache/upstart/scope-registry.log === vying is now known as Guest71897 [15:17] mhr3, aha -> scoperegistry: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid [15:18] dpm, `/sbin/initctl list-env | grep L[CA]` ? [15:20] mhr3, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7416574/ - hm, I wonder why I get two different locales [15:21] I've changed it now via system settings [15:21] to be en_US [15:21] rebooting now to see if that fixes it [15:21] it will [15:21] the adb locale doesn't matter really [15:21] the upstart one counts [15:22] mhr3, indeed it's fixed. I'm still not sure I can follow the difference between adb locale and upstart locale, though... === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:23] dpm, the real question is why doesn't it like your locale [15:24] pete-woods, it's because of the frickin boost::filesystem :P [15:25] mhr3: :( [15:27] mhr3, it was because it's not installed by default: I had to set the image to RW and run locale-gen. It seems the image update removed the locale, but the environment variables were still set, pointing to a locale that no longer existed [15:29] dpm, what does locale-gen do? [15:30] mhr3, it essentially creates the locale. It compiles a bunch of files into what the system recognizes as a locale [15:30] mardy: hey, I've just reviewed your patch for the ubuntu shape [15:30] mardy: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/lp1296728/+merge/218617 [15:30] dpm, i still fail to see why should boost fail to work when that isn't generated [15:32] no idea === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [15:50] ogra_: +1 for avoiding writes to $HOME from the jobs! I think a lot of these were workarounds for upstart bugs that should now be fixed; maybe they can just go away now? [15:50] slangasek, right, now it bites back ... u knew it would one day ;) [15:51] *i knew [15:51] so until malta i'll start a big claen sweep ... (there are other ugly bits like pre filling /etc/environment at build time etc( [16:05] JamesTait: i hear there was a private branch on the bug i filed about 100 apps returned? [16:05] JamesTait: does that mean we will now get more than 100 returned? [16:06] popey, not by default, but when the branch lands you'll be able to specify a page size. [16:06] popey, /api/v1/search?size=9999&page=1 [16:07]