| mapps | whos still around | 00:12 |
|---|---|---|
| mapps | wonder if i could put my machine outside in a shed and itd be ok hmm | 00:12 |
| daftykins | nah, moisture | 00:13 |
| mapps | would it be enough to do damage? | 00:14 |
| mapps | just its SO loud | 00:14 |
| daftykins | what is it? 0o | 00:15 |
| diddledan_ | loud. | 00:16 |
| mapps | old dell desktop | 00:16 |
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| MooDoo | hello all | 05:58 |
| Myrtti | whee | 06:09 |
| Myrtti | new Chrome works with Hangouts and Adobe Connect! | 06:09 |
| Myrtti | what's the current opinion on ISP's, which has the best price/quality ratio? | 06:16 |
| mapps | im on sky atm but got rubbish service | 06:17 |
| mapps | who u with atm? | 06:17 |
| Myrtti | TalkTalk Business and the speed has gone down the drain so badly we're looking at moving to fibre | 06:18 |
| Myrtti | no idea what's causing it | 06:18 |
| Myrtti | have tried all the tricks in the book | 06:18 |
| mapps | ah if you can get fttc yea ust do that | 06:23 |
| mapps | i cant;( | 06:23 |
| dwatkins | I'm about to switch from IDNet to PlusNet as the price is the same, but PlusNet don't cap you at 200 GB a month downloaded. | 07:00 |
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| Myrtti | the connection is so bad I feel like crying >____< | 07:38 |
| popey | Myrtti: I'm on virgin cable. fine here. rarely goes out, and is pretty quick http://www.speedtest.net/result/3487854745.png | 07:48 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy No Socks Day! :-D | 07:56 |
| popey | \o/ I have no socks on! | 07:56 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 07:58 |
| awilkins | Is it really No Socks Day? | 07:58 |
| awilkins | So it is | 07:58 |
| nigelb | Indeed. I'm not running today. I shall not be wearing socks. | 07:59 |
| * jussi throws smelly socks at nigelb | 08:00 | |
| jussi | and its way too cold in my house for no socks. sorry. | 08:01 |
| nigelb | It's warm and mildly rainy here :) | 08:01 |
| awilkins | I can't believe I drove 50 miles for this shit | 08:02 |
| awilkins | OOps, apologies | 08:02 |
| awilkins | For any youths watching - that is a bad word and should not be repeated in polite company | 08:03 |
| awilkins | popey, I'm going to have to light a rocket under Virgin's butt... I only get about 25Mbit/s on my allegedly 60Mbit/s line | 08:04 |
| awilkins | Supposed to be upgraded to 100Mbit/s here this year as well | 08:04 |
| popey | mine was supposed to be next year | 08:05 |
| popey | then suddenly my modem rebooted one day and it was faster | 08:05 |
| awilkins | Have a feeling my wire may be poorly sick | 08:06 |
| awilkins | My modem says 60Mbit/s but I only get 25Mbit/s | 08:06 |
| awilkins | Maybe my impedance is off | 08:06 |
| awilkins | Although the local router has a history of congestion | 08:06 |
| awilkins | There was a time I was getting 150ms pings to the first hop because of all the little scrotes around where I live constantly torrenting things | 08:07 |
| Myrtti | yeah no cable for us | 08:08 |
| awilkins | VM sez : speed upgrade between Jan 2015 and June 1015 | 08:09 |
| awilkins | TBH I don't care about raw bandwidth | 08:09 |
| awilkins | As long as I get consistent service and low pings, 25Mbit/s is totally enough for my needs | 08:09 |
| awilkins | I used to be very happy with 512Kbit/s | 08:10 |
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| awilkins | If it's enough to get an OS ISO in less than 15 minutes, it's good enough | 08:10 |
| awilkins | Can install most triple-A games in about 2-3 hours so it's all good. | 08:10 |
| Myrtti | yeah there was a moment yesterday when I couldn't be in a Google Hangout and use Ryanair website at the same time | 08:13 |
| Myrtti | and the Hangout is choppy | 08:13 |
| awilkins | Knowing Ryanair, they probably wanted you to pay a supplement for extra server bandwidth | 08:14 |
| Myrtti | their website is a lot better now than it was six months ago | 08:14 |
| * awilkins pitches the idea of them getting people to pay for access to the new website | 08:15 | |
| foobarry | realised i no longer have a cap on my broadband | 08:28 |
| bashrc | morning | 08:29 |
| foobarry | happiness is all of your esxi hosts in compliance with the host profile :) | 08:46 |
| TwistedLucidity | popey: I'm on VM too, just wish their up-speed wasn't so poor. | 08:47 |
| popey | meh | 08:47 |
| popey | although, having said "meh", I could possibly move services back to home now it's fairly quick | 08:47 |
| TwistedLucidity | It is really stable though, and (unofficial) static IP too. | 08:47 |
| popey | yeah | 08:48 |
| TwistedLucidity | You running off their SuperFlub, or just using that as a modem? | 08:48 |
| Laney | looking at moving currently and the lack of fast broadband turned me off a place I otherwise liked :( | 08:48 |
| TwistedLucidity | When I next move, I'll be dropping down to 7Mbps - and that's in a major city | 08:49 |
| TwistedLucidity | There's cable past the entrance to the street, but NTL didn't run the cable *into* the street. So whilst it is all around, I can't get any. | 08:50 |
| Laney | yep | 08:50 |
| Laney | they've not run cable to new build estates in nottm, and fttc/p generally hasn't rolled out either | 08:50 |
| TwistedLucidity | You in Notts then? | 08:50 |
| Laney | ya | 08:50 |
| popey | i have a netgear device behind my modem | 08:51 |
| popey | modem is in "modem only" mode | 08:51 |
| TwistedLucidity | Laney: Come along to Notts LUG! | 08:51 |
| Laney | haha | 08:51 |
| Laney | I heard they were quite ... beery | 08:51 |
| TwistedLucidity | popey: Snap - although mine's a Buffalo unit. It's great to have a router that actually does stuff. | 08:51 |
| TwistedLucidity | Laney: And what's wrong with that? | 08:51 |
| * TwistedLucidity falls over | 08:51 | |
| ujjain2 | I have sdb,sdc,sdd but no sda, does that mean this drive is not connected? there is no /dev/sda, just 3 | 08:52 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:25 |
| nigelb | Hello davmor2 | 09:25 |
| davmor2 | Todays tune stuck in my head is the 2cellos version of viva la vida from clodplay iirc | 09:25 |
| davmor2 | nigelb: how do chap long time no see | 09:26 |
| foobarry | davmor2: i have hamza, abu hamza (to the tune of hands up baby hands up ) | 09:27 |
| foobarry | :S | 09:27 |
| davmor2 | foobarry: hooks up surely | 09:29 |
| nigelb | davmor2: I'm good :) | 09:29 |
| MooDoo | hello davmor2 | 09:30 |
| foobarry | doctor asked for a poo sample to check for h. pylori | 09:34 |
| foobarry | taken me 6 weeks to sync up a morning dump with my wife going into town shortly after :S | 09:34 |
| foobarry | anyway, not a pleasant process in all | 09:34 |
| nigelb | TMI. | 09:35 |
| foobarry | no really, i could give a lot more | 09:35 |
| foobarry | .. | 09:35 |
| foobarry | but i wont | 09:35 |
| davmor2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37zPu-hCy3I now everyone can share in the tune in my head | 09:36 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:36 |
| nigelb | davmor2: How have you been? | 09:40 |
| jussi | davmor2: thats a rather nice recital | 09:41 |
| davmor2 | nigelb: I'm a bit meh at the minute | 09:42 |
| MooDoo | we're all a bit meh at the moment. | 09:46 |
| jussi | me also | 09:47 |
| jussi | mind, I watched Achmed this morning, apparently he has a son... :D (yes, Jeff Dunham is funny) | 09:48 |
| hoover | Hi folks | 09:54 |
| MooDoo | hello hoover | 09:55 |
| hoover | BRB, lunchtime | 09:55 |
| Ahmed412 | hi all , i'm looking for some guidance | 10:34 |
| Ahmed412 | who is welling to help? | 10:34 |
| dwatkins | Ahmed412: please describe the problem, someone may be able to offer assistance | 10:35 |
| Ahmed412 | its not a problem | 10:35 |
| dwatkins | perhaps you could elaborate | 10:35 |
| Ahmed412 | I want to run virtualbox application under any linux | 10:36 |
| dwatkins | "any" linux? | 10:36 |
| TwistedLucidity | Ahmed412: Goto VirtualBox webiste, download (you'll get the latest version from there, your repos may be old), follow install guide | 10:38 |
| Ahmed412 | sorry | 10:41 |
| Ahmed412 | yes i know , what i 'm looking for is the most lite linux version that can run virtual box | 10:42 |
| Ahmed412 | so the original system doesn't take many resources | 10:43 |
| Ahmed412 | so what do you suggest for most lite linux system? | 10:43 |
| diplo | You can run Virtualbox via the CLI, or use KVM/Qemu ? | 10:44 |
| Ahmed412 | is CLI or KVM/Qemu an operating system ? | 10:45 |
| TwistedLucidity | CLI - Command Line Interface | 10:47 |
| TwistedLucidity | KVM - Kernel Virtualisation Module | 10:47 |
| Ahmed412 | no i'm looking for the most unix linux ubunt distro that can run virtual box | 10:51 |
| Ahmed412 | sorry the most lite distro | 10:51 |
| Ahmed412 | so the pc resuorces doesn't waste between the host & guest systems | 10:52 |
| diplo | http://lubuntu.net/ or something like that will be lowest on resources, should be fine running virtual box | 10:53 |
| diplo | The thing is with the lighter distros you lose some functionality etc | 10:53 |
| Ahmed412 | yes something like that will be lowest on resources | 10:53 |
| diplo | http://xubuntu.org/ | 10:54 |
| diplo | Or that | 10:54 |
| Ahmed412 | functionality is not my goal | 10:54 |
| Ahmed412 | i will only use it to run virtual box or any virtualizing application | 10:54 |
| Ahmed412 | all ubuntu family is not that lite i need | 10:55 |
| diplo | Well if you are only wanting to virtualise stuff why not just run a server ? Won't have any of the desktop resources running | 10:57 |
| foobarry | spontaneous pc reboot while plugging in my usb mouse | 10:58 |
| SuperEngineer | foobarry: replace that mouse / check your psu! | 10:59 |
| foobarry | maybe static? | 11:00 |
| SuperEngineer | errrmmm..... nah | 11:00 |
| foobarry | scrape shoes on carpet, mouse touches the metal of my hdmi port, causes reboot | 11:00 |
| SuperEngineer | now you say :D | 11:00 |
| Ahmed412 | thanks looks great idea | 11:01 |
| SuperEngineer | foobarry: connect pc to lightning conducter... just as effective ;) | 11:03 |
| Ahmed412 | diplo: could you suggest me a server distro | 11:04 |
| SuperEngineer | cough... Ubuntu... cough | 11:05 |
| TwistedLucidity | Ahmed412: I use Ubuntu Server with KVM. Works well. | 11:05 |
| TwistedLucidity | I use VirtMan on a client to control the Guests | 11:05 |
| diplo | Well as SuperEngineer so eloquently put it and now TwistedLucidity youre in a Ubuntu channel so better advise that :) | 11:05 |
| diplo | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server | 11:06 |
| TwistedLucidity | diplo: I am advising Ubuntu as it is easy to set-up and there are pretty good docs; seems to me that Ahmed412 will need those (given they needed to query CLI and KVM) | 11:06 |
| SuperEngineer | agreed | 11:07 |
| TwistedLucidity | Ahmed412: If you are totally new to virtualisation, run VirtualBox on a desktop first. Get an understanding what is going on. | 11:07 |
| TwistedLucidity | Ahmed412: Then worry about KVM etc. | 11:07 |
| Ahmed412 | i know virtualizing but on windows | 11:09 |
| * SuperEngineer screams in fear | 11:10 | |
| Ahmed412 | what i'm trying to do is to run specific applications on virtualized windows under unix | 11:10 |
| Ahmed412 | as wine doesn't compatiple with this application | 11:11 |
| SuperEngineer | Ahmed412: have you checked on WineHQ for any help in getting it to run | 11:12 |
| SuperEngineer | http://www.winehq.org/ | 11:13 |
| Laney | slow club on 6 music currently ♥ | 11:14 |
| Ahmed412 | thanks guys for your advices & support, bye | 11:14 |
| SuperEngineer | Thinking of virtualbox... downloaded Tails yesterday... just fired it up in VirtualBox. | 11:21 |
| SuperEngineer | It evens detects & warns you that you are using virtual machine & therefore underlying opsys *will* know about the stuff it hopes to keep private. Impressed. | 11:22 |
| SuperEngineer | [Tails = "The Amnesiac Incognito Live System"] Tails is much easier to say ;) | 11:25 |
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| hoover | back | 12:17 |
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| NET||abuse | I want to figure out a nice way to track my daily expenses, i've a little app on my phone, "Smart Receipts" But i've got sainsburies receipts that hav ethe date on the back, and i can only attach one image to the receipts entry | 13:54 |
| NET||abuse | What the bloody hell sainsburries. | 13:54 |
| bashrc | NET||abuse: https://github.com/bashrc/fin | 14:02 |
| NET||abuse | hehe, | 14:05 |
| NET||abuse | I wasn going to start by just using my phone to photograph my receipts. And this smart receipts app isn't tied to any online service, so i can tie in the data to whatever i want to use. | 14:05 |
| NET||abuse | so my problem is, how to deal with receipts like sainsburries. | 14:05 |
| NET||abuse | the app itself isn't the sisue | 14:06 |
| NET||abuse | well, personal finances are grand, i need expese tracking and small company accounts stuff.. was going to start a go-lang project. | 14:13 |
| diddledan_ | golang is funky | 14:14 |
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| NET||abuse | diddledan_: yeh, i've built a couple little basic tools for myself in it, just really digging into the net/http or mux wrappers for it to start doing web apps now | 14:21 |
| diddledan_ | even more funky is: https://github.com/gopherjs/gopherjs | 14:22 |
| NET||abuse | and have to work on database stuff next,, for finance mangement, i think rdbms is the best option, so mysql is the obvious choice as that's what i know best, but i was wondering what would a non sql based db offer for finance. | 14:22 |
| NET||abuse | diddledan_: oh god, more transcody fun, that stuff melts my head. | 14:24 |
| NET||abuse | saw some talks in go group about llvm and transcompiling to other things or from js to golang | 14:26 |
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| TwistedLucidity | NET||abuse: Careful of trying to solve and problem that is already (or mostly) solved. There's a glut of expenses management applications around. Most based on double-entry. | 14:29 |
| TwistedLucidity | It might be better to find one that is close and extend that. | 14:29 |
| TwistedLucidity | Unless you're doing it for pure interest/learning of course; in which case, have at it. | 14:29 |
| NET||abuse | :( but then i dont get to bitch and moan how hard it is to code something like that from scratch | 14:29 |
| NET||abuse | :) half the fun is in doing it myself even if i spend a month or two at it in spare time only to abandon it later.. ultimately a good learning experience for go coding | 14:30 |
| TwistedLucidity | GNUCash and jGnash are beasts. One of them should do it. | 14:30 |
| TwistedLucidity | There's a KDE one too I think, name escapes me just now. | 14:30 |
| TwistedLucidity | And a CLI one that's meant to be really powerful (i.e. scriptable). Name also escapes me. | 14:31 |
| TwistedLucidity | I used to download my account statements as a CSV, sanitise them (for names, labels etc) and then load them into jGnash. | 14:31 |
| NET||abuse | there was that personal finances one mentioned earlier, fin | 14:31 |
| TwistedLucidity | It could recognise names and knew which account they should go into. | 14:32 |
| TwistedLucidity | No matter how much I polished it, the answer was always the same: You're broke, sunshine. | 14:32 |
| TwistedLucidity | :( | 14:32 |
| NET||abuse | wxbanker clipf kmymoney skrooge | 14:32 |
| NET||abuse | hehe, apt-cache search is fun | 14:32 |
| TwistedLucidity | Skrooge! That were it | 14:33 |
| bashrc | when I started keeping track of expenses I looked at GNUcash and it looked much too complex for what I needed | 14:34 |
| davmor2 | NET||abuse: if you are on Trusty just use apt search :) | 14:36 |
| bashrc | fin is also scriptable. you can stick it into .bashrc to tell you how little cash you have remaining | 14:36 |
| TwistedLucidity | bashrc: GNUcash is the equivalent of...thingy on Windows. It is rather complex because it is the sledgehammer for your personal finances walnut. It's really intended for business use AIUI. | 14:37 |
| TwistedLucidity | Quciken. | 14:37 |
| bashrc | yes that was my impression | 14:37 |
| TwistedLucidity | bashrc: That would be depressing. | 14:37 |
| davmor2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7416357/ | 14:38 |
| TwistedLucidity | tl@foo -£1234.56 :~$ | 14:38 |
| awilkins | Wonder if org-mode has a personal finances mangler... | 14:38 |
| awilkins | Does everything else... | 14:38 |
| awilkins | (except being usable from a decent text editor...) | 14:39 |
| bashrc | I'm not sure. org-mode does a lot of stuff | 14:39 |
| bashrc | you can also make tables and use it like a spreadsheet | 14:39 |
| davmor2 | TwistedLucidity: have a look on libreoffice.org and openoffice.org they have some good personal finance templates for spreadsheets | 14:40 |
| foobarry | the call log on my android is now empty :-| | 14:41 |
| foobarry | i didn't do anything | 14:41 |
| davmor2 | foobarry: you called wipe_my_phone.com didn't you :) | 14:42 |
| TwistedLucidity | davmor2: Cool. Thanks. I quite liked Skrooge when I looked, but don't have time to do everything at the moment. Evenings are rammed. :-( | 14:43 |
| NET||abuse | davmor2: really? ooh, scary changes.. i'm on 13.10 right now | 15:28 |
| NET||abuse | not jumped yet | 15:28 |
| davmor2 | NET||abuse: Apt 1.0 on trusty, it lacks auto complete but everything else about it is nicer | 15:29 |
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| directhex | ali1234, was it you who documented a process for doing uefi secure boot in ovmf? | 16:04 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 16:04 |
| ali1234 | but using windows tools | 16:04 |
| ali1234 | http://al.robotfuzz.com/playing-with-uefi-secure-boot-part-1-ovmf/ | 16:05 |
| directhex | ali1234, did you sign a kernel+initrd? | 16:06 |
| ali1234 | no | 16:06 |
| ali1234 | only uefi "hello world" | 16:06 |
| directhex | damn, must've been someone else | 16:07 |
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| darrenr | fsdf | 18:15 |
| Richard | hard | 19:08 |
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| diddledan_ | must resist family unfriendly comment | 19:09 |
| daftykins | diddledan_: ;) | 19:17 |
| daftykins | i think it may be a curry night | 19:23 |
| daftykins | Liberation Day tomorrow! | 19:23 |
| shauno | bit of a bummer that the UK doesn't do anything for VE day :/ | 19:43 |
| daftykins | that *is* a surprise | 19:47 |
| shauno | I know! I mean, we earned it. and it's a pretty epic excuse for having 3 bank holiday weekends in a row | 19:51 |
| daftykins | :D | 19:52 |
| daftykins | this coming Monday isn't one as well is it? | 19:52 |
| daftykins | presumably not based on my phone | 19:52 |
| shauno | nope :( | 19:53 |
| daftykins | ok time to nip down the curry house | 19:54 |
| daftykins | i'd try a restaurant tonight but i can't be bothered to fix my dishevelled (sp) appearance in order to attend :D | 19:54 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/05gdoiywpuqzxj7/storage.png | 22:27 |
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