[11:09] <cmaloney> party
[11:10] <rick_h_> yay ... or not
[11:53] <brousch> party
[13:01] <cmaloney> http://www.amazon.com/Since-Strangling-Option-Sandra-Crowe-ebook/dp/B00HFXK46K/
[13:02] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/Y8DR8t - Amazon.com: Since Strangling Isn't an Option eBook: Sandra A. Crowe: Kindle Store
[13:02] <cmaloney> rick_h_: ^^
[13:02] <rick_h_> lol
[13:02] <rick_h_> trying to hint at anything
[13:03] <cmaloney> Not at all
[13:03] <cmaloney> Recommernded to Diana as well
[14:43] <mrgoodcat> little known fact. exclamation marks make notifications travel faster to rick_h_'s phone
[14:43] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: not a very enthusiastic pong
[15:49] <cmaloney> Yet another in the "MySQL does strange shit" category: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16549566/mysql-cant-insert-record-with-unsigned-primary-key-being-zero
[15:49] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/KLnWSg - mysql can't insert record with unsigned primary key being zero - Stack Overflow
[15:49] <cmaloney> and the "I wish you were PostgreSQL" category: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/interactive/datatype-numeric.html#DATATYPE-SERIAL
[15:49] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/crFrOT - PostgreSQL: Documentation: 9.3: Numeric Types
[15:57] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: he really shouldn't be explicitly trying to set a value on an autoincrement primary key field
[15:57] <mrgoodcat> the whole point of it is that it is automatic
[15:57] <mrgoodcat> if you need an explicit field you should make another column
[15:58] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I mostly agree.
[15:58] <cmaloney> though it still irritates me that 0 has special meaning
[15:58] <cmaloney> if I want to have a 0 == None category listing then there's no way to do that.
[15:59] <cmaloney> Outside of trickery.
[17:34] <mrgoodcat> anybody use Gradle?
[17:35] <brousch> I use a Griddle
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> lol
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> reading the "modern java developer" blog that's been going around in the last week or so
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> he mentions Ant and Maven as being old relics
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> apparently "the modern Java developer uses Gradle"
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> which is what android uses by default
[17:37] <brousch> Android Studio does
[18:05] <cmaloney> "Thus avoiding smells like shotgun changes or divergent change that turn your build into a maintenance nightmare."
[18:05] <cmaloney> www.gradle.org/overview
[18:09] <mrgoodcat> it does seem to have some nice features
[18:09] <cmaloney> yeah, !java, and !xml
[18:10] <mrgoodcat> java 8 is so much better than java 7
[18:10] <mrgoodcat> i'd have been happy if the only change was adding lambdas
[18:11] <mrgoodcat> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CigFkdvc
[18:11] <cmaloney> It's only better by 1 java though
[18:11] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/ZADwOb - Pastebin: CigFkdvc | IRCCloud
[18:11] <mrgoodcat> turns into
[18:11] <brousch> gah, I hate lambdas. Write a frickin function
[18:11] <mrgoodcat> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/G839h6pf
[18:11] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/geyOEt - Pastebin: G839h6pf | IRCCloud
[18:12] <mrgoodcat> disclaimer: not my code
[18:12] <cmaloney> You know what I see in that code?
[18:12] <mrgoodcat> java
[18:12] <cmaloney> Typesafe boilerplate
[18:13] <cmaloney> List<String>
[18:14] <cmaloney> Map<Character, List<String>>
[18:14] <mrgoodcat> oh in the first code
[18:14] <cmaloney> public static void main(String[] args)
[18:14] <cmaloney> Oh, is the second one Java8?
[18:14] <mrgoodcat> yea
[18:15] <cmaloney> I'm not sure that's much better but it's a lot less syntax. :)
[18:15] <mrgoodcat> way less typing
[18:15] <mrgoodcat> it is much better
[18:15] <mrgoodcat> it may not be BEST
[18:15] <mrgoodcat> but it beats java <= 7
[18:15] <cmaloney> granted.
[18:40] <cmaloney> rick_h_: http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Strip-Vision-Open-source-650-finalenglish.jpg
[18:40] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/wErwzT - image/jpeg
[18:41] <brousch> strippervision?
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_Coaster
[18:42] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/qmCQIg - Euthanasia Coaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[18:43] <mrgoodcat> lol jurassic fork
[18:48] <rick_h_> cmaloney: :)
[19:22] <jrwren> why would you hate lambdas?
[19:22] <jrwren> lambdas give you closure properties that regular functions don't give you in most languages.
[19:22] <jrwren> unless of course you can next functions :)
[19:45] <mrgoodcat> rip jcastro
[20:22] <jrwren> that isn't funny mrgoodcat
[20:22] <jrwren> you scared me.
[20:22] <jrwren> i've had too many acquaintances die this year
[20:23] <mrgoodcat> Oh sorry. His terminal died
[20:24] <jrwren> yeah, i figured that out
[20:24] <jrwren> but for 2 seconds I was freaking out
[20:27] <mrgoodcat> I say it all the time in my other channel. Didn't even think about it
[20:27] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I've seen that in other channels
[20:27] <jrwren> nevermind me then.
[20:27] <cmaloney> but a good number of us are in the age where we're starting to lose more friends.
[20:28] <cmaloney> So the humor doesn't translate. :)
[20:28] <cmaloney> ie: A good number of folks from my elementary class are dead
[20:28] <cmaloney> granted a good number of them offed themselves doing stupid things.
[20:29]  * brousch joins in shaking his cane at mrgoodcat
[20:29] <mrgoodcat> Lol
[20:29] <mrgoodcat> At the cane
[20:30] <mrgoodcat> Not deaths
[21:02] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[21:02] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Reflect The Enemy by Flesh Field on Strain
[21:03]  * cmaloney wonders if he could ever DJ a dance at Penguicon or something
[21:06] <cmaloney> Damn, I love this song.
[21:07] <cmaloney> (OK, I'll shut up now. ;) )
[22:29] <shakes808> Hello everyone
[22:30] <brousch> yo
[22:31] <shakes808> I have finally started getting my server set up :)
[22:31] <shakes808> I am trying to configure some things now
[22:31] <shakes808> I got side tracked with trying to set up a registered IRC channel
[22:31] <shakes808> I have a manual for that
[22:32] <shakes808> but my question is to get a logger so that I can see what was written while I was away from the channel
[22:32] <shakes808> Does that make any sense?  Similar to the irclogs.ubuntu.com
[22:34] <shakes808> the brown cow is great
[22:34] <shakes808> the brown cow is great
[22:34] <shakes808> the brown cow is great
[22:34] <shakes808> the brown cow is great
[22:34] <shakes808> I love you zachary. You are the best son that I have.
[22:35] <shakes808> .......
[22:35] <shakes808> sorry wrong chat
[22:35] <shakes808>  :)
[22:35] <brousch> is that your password?
[22:35] <shakes808> HAHA
[22:36] <shakes808> No. I am teaching my son how to type and thought I was in that channel
[22:36] <shakes808> :| sorry :)
[22:43] <shakes808> Is there anything special that I need for the logger?