[04:37] Morning ubuntu people [05:26] morning all [05:37] Môre oom [05:39] Het oom al reastersys op 14.04 probeer ? [05:39] remastersys even [05:45] hi mazal [05:45] is dit nie opgehou nie [05:45] Ons het sopas een suksesvol gedoen met die laaste deb wat release was :-) [05:46] iso gemaak van my 14.04 en install op barry se pc [05:46] sjoe [05:46] werk jou 14.04 nou? [05:46] http://sourceforge.net/projects/os4systemimage/files/Remastersys%203.0.4-2/ [05:46] Het die heel onderste 3.3mb deb gebruik [05:47] Install hom met sudp dpkg -i [05:47] Kry error [05:47] laat ek gaan kyk [05:47] run sudo apt-get install -f [05:47] Install deb dan met dpkg -i [05:47] sjoe [05:47] Dan install hy sharp , en maak iso wat werk :) [05:48] mooi [05:48] Dis net sy cli , maar ek gebruik anyway nog altyd net die cli vir hom [05:49] gebruik jy 64bit 14.04 [05:49] yep [05:49] ok [05:50] hi Spekko [05:50] wokky laat weer [05:50] more Kilos [05:50] jip [05:50] baie laat [05:50] rofl [05:50] haha [05:51] weeti, ekt hom vanoggend gebel, toe antwoord hy nie, so dink hy is siek. [05:51] ai! [05:51] te hard gesuip sekere [05:51] die mis is so dik hier buite ek kannie 50 meter ver sien nie [05:52] holy shit, hier is dit maar net bietjie bewolk [05:52] ons sien net als wit [05:55] Hi Spekko [05:56] morning mazal [05:56] Myne is nou redelik stabiel oom , sukkel net nog met lifrea. Hy crash nie meer nie maar gooi elke keer wat ek restart die reading pane se size weg [05:57] het jy dit en sy dependancies reinstall [05:57] dit sal nog aflaai eks seker [05:58] Ek dink dis 'n unity thing [05:59] ek het weer synaptic installeer en as ek van daar reinstall wat in is dan gaan haal dit nog goed [05:59] En barry is op die lug ! :) [06:00] self as jy unity bo intik en dan al die unity goed reinstall kry dit nog [06:00] hi bduk [06:01] ek kon nog nooit met apt-get en aptitude upgrade kry dat als gedoen is nie [06:01] moes altyd deur als in synaptic reinstall [06:02] Hier kom Jabber nou in [06:02] haha [06:02] lyk hy swak? [06:04] hi jabberwocky93 [06:04] wat stuier jy so [06:04] kop seer? [06:08] sjoe nie geweet ek lyk so sleg dat mens oor IRC kan sien nie [06:08] more Kilos [06:08] rofl [06:09] Maaz: coffee on [06:09] * Maaz washes some mugs [06:10] Maaz, coffee please [06:10] Kilos: Righto [06:10] Maaz, large [06:10] In a beer mug just for you Kilos [06:13] Coffee's ready for jabberwocky93 and Kilos! [06:14] Maaz, danke [06:14] Bitteschön [06:15] More almal [06:18] hi theblazehen [06:19] mazal, dankie vir die remastersys info [06:19] plz [06:42] morning all [06:42] hi Private_User [06:43] hey Kilos [06:57] morning superfly ThatGraemeGuy [07:03] inetpro, did you get lost in the mist? [07:05] morning Kilos, bduk1, Private_User, jabberwocky93 Spekko [07:05] morning superfly [07:05] morning superfly [07:06] good morning Kilos [07:06] oh and hi to everyone else as well [07:06] morning inetpro! [07:06] sjoe too cold to be good man [07:07] * Kilos sings the mtn song [07:07] come on summer come on [07:10] hi superfly [07:11] So, ANC 60%, DA 25% and other parties 15% [07:11] (so far) [07:11] With the DA winning the Western Cape (again) [07:13] http://www.news24.com/Elections/Results#map=live [07:14] you can navigate into provinces [07:14] also don't miss the 'high detail' button [07:26] morning inetpro [07:26] morning jabberwocky93 [07:27] morning mazal [07:27] morning theblazehen [07:27] Morning Private_User [07:30] hi Private_User [07:30] hi jabberwocky93, Private_User, superfly, Kilos, inetpro [07:31] morning charl_ [07:31] Maaz: coffee on [07:31] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [07:32] hi charl_ [07:32] morning charl_ [07:32] Maaz: large [07:32] In a beer mug just for you jabberwocky93 [07:33] Maaz, coffee please [07:33] Kilos: Done [07:33] Maaz, larger [07:33] inna bucket for you Kilos [07:33] Maaz: coffee please [07:33] Private_User: Yessir [07:34] Maaz: largest [07:34] Whew do you want a bath full Private_User? [07:35] Coffee's ready for charl_, Kilos and Private_User! [07:36] Maaz, ty [07:36] You are welcome Kilos [07:36] Maaz: thank you [07:36] Private_User: Sure [07:40] ><)))'> ><)))'> ><)))'> [07:45] ? [07:46] whats the funny signs Golynx [07:46] Maaz: thanks [07:46] charl_: No problem [07:46] Kilos: they're ascii art fishes [07:46] hi Vince-0 [07:46] lol [07:46] hi Vince-0 [07:46] nothing [07:48] fish charl_ [07:48] multiple of fish is fish [07:49] methinks [07:49] Maaz, define fishes [07:49] Kilos: Crawfish \Craw"fish`\ (kr[add]"f[i^]sh`), Crayfish \Cray"fish`\ (kr[=a]"f[i^]sh`), n.; pl. {-fishes} or {-fish}. [Corrupted fr. OE. crevis, creves, OF. crevice, F. ['e]crevisse, fr. OHG. krebiz crab, G. krebs. See {Crab}. The ending -fish arose from confusion with E. fish.] (Zool.) Any decapod crustacean of the family {Astacid[ae]} (genera {Cambarus} and [07:49] {Cambarus}), resembling the lobster, but smaller, and found in fresh waters. Crawfishes are … [07:49] oi === Golynx is now known as x--^--__--- [07:50] haha [07:55] G'dayz [07:58] yay the sun arrived [07:58] hi Vince-0 === x--^--__--- is now known as ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb [08:03] oh my , we bored ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb? [08:03] post going today [08:05] nah [08:09] mostly whites here [08:10] ? [08:13] dont greet the kallit [08:14] what are you on about [08:14] hi theblazehen [08:15] you in an argumentative mood again ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb, go back to your nick [08:18] greetings must die [08:18] golynx wake up and grow up [08:23] what is kallit ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb? [08:26] brown people , coulred racist south africans . Product of apartheid [08:29] Sup! [08:29] Private_User, charl_ , Kilos - another kak day in paradise? [08:29] yeah looks like [08:30] yeah same ol same ol different day [08:30] hi Xethron [08:30] hi Xethron === ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb is now known as Ablynx [09:22] Kilos: it seems like you're right, it's fish, not fishes [09:24] acually weird but thats the way they did it [09:26] other things they put an s behind [09:26] maybe it was to difficult to say fishs [09:34] it's like sheeps, they said no make it sheep instead [09:34] lol [09:34] weird hey [09:39] proper english is actually a very difficult language [09:41] but its the main international language so there is no choice [09:42] yeah but 90% of the world speak it poorly :P [09:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EF_English_Proficiency_Index [09:43] NL is third on the list ! [09:44] i am interested to know how well england and north america fares but they are not on the list [09:44] i wonder if they can speak their own language [09:54] no South Africa on the list either [10:02] haha the peeps in england dont understand each other from town to town [10:02] thats why they made that song [10:03] why cant the english learn to speak [10:06] * Kilos the walking wounded today [10:06] got 2 of those thorns through shoes and one under fingernail [10:15] charl_: its always people who do not invent or create something that become sort of experts or professionals in it [10:15] eg. Cricket and Rugby both from England [10:16] hehe [10:20] i would laugh very hard if we in europe can speak better english than they in britain [10:20] that would be epically funny [10:20] i doubt that to be the case though [10:21] I guess its where you go in Britain [10:21] maybe you get confronted with scottish, irish, gaelic, welsh or cornish [10:24] I used to speak telephonically to many people from all parts of Britain and I could not see a huge difference between their English and ours however the accent is drastically different from their different areas and this is in England itself [10:25] and then I spoke to people who lived there for many years and they confirm that depending where you go you will hear a different accent [10:25] i thought the irish can be very hard to understand [10:25] yeah but that's everywhere in europe, the same in NL and DE [10:26] ask anyone who has ever spoken to swiss people, when you hear a swiss person from zurich or somewhere and compare that to a person from berlin, it doens't even sound like the same language [10:26] i find swiss german to be easier to understand because the accent is a lot more similar to dutch [10:26] but the swiss take it to the next level by even pronouncing a "k" like a "ch" [10:27] yeah in the beginning I used to have an issue but after a while I got used to it although I am not sure if I will still be able to understand them as good as I used to now [10:27] lol [10:27] so if you ask a swiss person about a potato and they will respond with about a "chartoffel" [10:28] so you mean kubuntu will be pronounced chu boon too [10:28] LOL [10:28] probably have never heard it [10:29] http://www.eldrid.ch/swgerman.htm [10:34] thanks, there are a few sayings here I heard on a series I was watching and understood what was meant but did not get now I understand exactly what was said [10:34] :) [10:39] it's a strange dialect, most germans complain they don't understand the swiss [11:32] Guys I get this all the time when running various cli commands : [11:32] no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory [11:32] Any ideas ? [12:13] Maaz: tell mazal does it do the same when launching GUI apps from the CLI as well? Perhaps something is wrong with a library [12:13] theblazehen: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode [12:20] hi all [12:23] hi magespawn [12:26] Ablynx, RD876310741ZA [12:29] hi magespawn [12:32] * Kilos needs to reboot [12:32] wbb [12:36] hmm... [12:54] Kilos, ty [12:54] np [14:07] now it is home time later all. [14:17] happy birthday, inetpro! [14:30] oh my goodness [14:31] happy birthday inetpro may every year just get better and better [14:55] thank you kindly [16:22] good evening folks [16:22] Maaz: coffee on [16:22] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [16:22] congrats inetpro !! [16:23] hi charl_ [16:26] Coffee's ready for charl_! [16:35] hi Kilos [16:35] Maaz: thanks [16:35] charl_: Okay :-) [16:40] hi spinza [16:41] hes a very quiet fella [17:08] hey smile [17:11] hi :D [17:13] nice weather we're having right? :D [17:13] rain rain and more rain [17:13] and then some more rain [17:14] wb theblazehen [17:59] ty charl_ [17:59] brb [18:18] ai! [18:18] those IEC servers really need to be changed so they handle the load [18:19] charl_: thanks [18:27] inetpro: I had same issues with IEC site. Your can use these links for live results http://www.news24.com/Elections/Results#map=live and SABC has an option to look at your voting district results as well and the link is http://elections.sabc.co.za/Elections2014/RaceForVotes.aspx [18:40] Private_User: I used the mail and guardians results in the end [18:40] When you have skype running in the CLI... [18:40] * inetpro just saying that the IEC should do better [18:40] Kilos: have a look at Whatsapp for libpurple or something like that [18:40] Get whatsapp in pdgin [18:40] I agree inetpro [18:40] pidgin* [18:41] can't understand why tshwane results are so damn slow [18:42] hmm... i think i did before theblazehen , have they got it working yet [18:42] inetpro: Voting results? [18:42] Kilos: I think it might be.. Not too sure [18:42] theblazehen: yep [18:42] Don't wanna try and get a password from my phone now [18:42] Setting up a VM, and a proxy and all that [18:42] cool ty ill have a look [18:43] kk, np [18:43] also Whosthere [18:43] Kilos: ^ [18:43] will that work to whatsapp? [18:44] Kilos: it should [18:44] "Whatsapp client for ubuntu [18:44] " [18:45] aha [18:45] what do you do with the password then [18:45] how do you get that off the phone [18:46] charl_: you use a MITM proxy with custom SSL cert to allow you to intercept the traffic [18:46] bah [18:46] yeah :/ [18:46] Written in .NET [18:46] you have to execute a full on attack on the stupid thing [18:46] yeah :( [18:47] Almost wish they kept the old passwords.. [18:47] if it falls for a fake cert it is also really weak on security [18:47] aka md5(wifiMACAddress) [18:47] what if the NSA does a MITM [18:47] charl_: Better than it was :p [18:47] bah that's even worse [18:47] that was for iOS [18:47] and if you can do a MITM what prevents anyone else from doing it [18:47] android was md5(IMEI) [18:48] this thing has epic fail [18:48] charl_: you need to install ssl cert on phone [18:48] ah ok [18:48] that's not so bad then [18:48] yeah [18:51] charl_: I believe there are ways to ensure security even with that though? [18:52] not sure what you mean ? [18:53] charl_: I believe I may have read something where you can ensure SSL security even if someone installs a cert on your device [18:54] Probably wrong though.. [18:54] Doesn't fit in well with my logic [18:54] http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/29988/what-is-certificate-pinning ah yes! there we go [18:55] looking [18:56] yes that is correct [18:56] i have done it [18:56] that would be better tooo [18:56] kk [18:56] yeah.. [18:56] or actually what i would do is... [18:56] i would make my own CA (root CA) [18:56] Hmm, google and such would be using that correct? [18:56] and then validate all certificates against that [18:57] so it has to have my root CA at the top of the chain [18:57] otherwise it fails [18:57] ah yes [18:57] then even if my CA gets exploited and false certificates get generated i am not vulnerable [18:57] and lock the private key of the CA somewhere in a secure safe [18:57] Wait, google etc. Wouldn't be able to use it as they can't tel lbrowser to only use their cert, right? [18:57] Yeah, good plan [18:58] whosethere dont work on 14.04 yet they say [18:58] np will keep looking ty [18:58] yes correct [18:58] websites have to rely on the browser [18:58] http://imgur.com/5RfTr7D heh, I <3 the terminal a bit TOO much.. [18:58] but if you control the client (in the case of an android app) you *should* have control over the TLS layer [18:59] and then you can configure it as you will [18:59] yeah [19:00] I read in reddit.com/r/netsec a few weeks ago a way for ANY app to access whatsapp DB on android.. [19:00] yes but whatsapp is as full of holes as swiss cheese [19:00] it's worse than openssl :P [19:01] it turns out that the code behind openssl is complete filth [19:01] project already got forked by the openbsd people [19:01] libressl or something [19:01] yeah, I heard [19:01] and they are busy "stripping at the code" [19:01] yep, libreSSL [19:01] i tried that android sdk thing . too much work and data waste [19:01] because apparently most of the code is indeed not even needed hahahaha :D [19:01] whatsapp not worth it [19:01] Didn't mozilla also have a SSL implementation? [19:01] pssibly, not sure [19:02] heh, yeah. And also why the fuck would you implement your own kinda malloc ?! [19:02] Believe thats part of what was behind heartbleed [19:04] but since the heartbleed attack they now have one after the other attack [19:04] the other day a denial of service again [19:04] yeah, I've heard :D [19:04] patch upon patch [19:04] everyone is looking because the code is horse **** [19:04] Well ":D" IF I were wanting to exploit them... [19:05] i don't run openssl on my server any more i just wait for libressl [19:05] openbsd project doesn't mess around [19:05] Weren't they stripping away stuff needed for other *nix distributions? [19:06] Or not yet? [19:07] Anyone here use screen? [19:08] hmmm...ask inetpro [19:08] dunno exactly [19:08] inetpro: ping [19:08] i think my bot is using it [19:08] i *used* to use screen [19:08] Kilos: probably.. [19:08] before switching to byobu [19:08] charl_: ok. Easy to make tabs, kinda like tabs in tmux? [19:09] I have multiple tmux sessions open, and wanna manage them easily over ssh, without needing to run tmux inside tmux [19:09] its the only way i can control the bot on the host and not have it crash when i close the terminal [19:09] i think [19:09] hi drussell [19:09] Kilos: or use nohup $cmd, or $cmd& && disown [19:10] sjoe [19:10] theblazehen: yes ctrl+a c [19:10] c for create [19:11] theblazehen: you can easily run tmux inside tmux but then you need to change ctrl+b to something else like ctrl+A [19:11] charl_: kk, kinda like tmux then. Does it have a kinda window list? [19:11] in byobu it's easily configurable with f1 [19:11] can't recall the window list actually, not sure now [19:11] And yeah, but it's gonna be on the same host. Not gonna run tmux on host ssh'ing into my machine [19:11] theblazehen, ask the pro tomorrow i think he is being treated tonight [19:12] he is a bit older today [19:12] Basically I want to access all my tmux sessions from school, in a single PuTTY session [19:12] Kilos: ty [19:12] Well "screen screenshots" on google images sure was helpfull... [19:13] /s [19:13] hmmm [19:15] It's... adequate:/ [19:16] charl_: You manage some servers right? [19:20] http://qntm.org/suicide Dare you to run this in production.. [19:23] bah [19:23] :D [19:23] night all. sleep tight [19:23] sorry it will be a dare i need to refuse [19:23] night Kilos [19:23] :) [19:26] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ5MA685ApE nice! [19:30] cya all [19:30] charl_: pong [19:30] inetpro: I believe it was I who pinged you.. [19:30] Happy birthday BTW [19:30] oh sorry [19:31] thanks theblazehen [19:31] Wanted to find out just how horrible it is to use screen [19:31] Doesn't seem TOO bad [19:31] Since I'm gonna run tmux's inside it anyway [19:31] * inetpro can't live without screen [19:31] or byobu for that matter [19:31] hehe [19:32] inetpro: You have seen my tmux, right? [19:32] think I have [19:32] kk [19:32] Well cya inetpro, charl_ [19:32] no need to use screen if you are used to tmux [19:32] * inetpro just still very used to screen [19:33] inetpro: Gonna run tmux inside screen [19:33] why? [19:33] I normally keep 1 tmux on each workspace in my WM, but can't do it easy over SSH [19:33]