[04:37] <AndChat-99281> Morning ubuntu people
[05:26] <Kilos> morning all
[05:37] <mazal> Môre oom
[05:39] <mazal> Het oom al reastersys op 14.04 probeer ?
[05:39] <mazal> remastersys even
[05:45] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[05:45] <Kilos> is dit nie opgehou nie
[05:45] <mazal> Ons het sopas een suksesvol gedoen met die laaste deb wat release was :-)
[05:46] <mazal> iso gemaak van my 14.04 en install op barry se pc
[05:46] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:46] <Kilos> werk jou 14.04 nou?
[05:46] <mazal> http://sourceforge.net/projects/os4systemimage/files/Remastersys%203.0.4-2/
[05:46] <mazal> Het die heel onderste 3.3mb deb gebruik
[05:47] <mazal> Install hom met sudp dpkg -i
[05:47] <mazal> Kry error
[05:47] <Kilos> laat ek gaan kyk
[05:47] <mazal> run sudo apt-get install -f
[05:47] <mazal> Install deb dan met dpkg -i
[05:47] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:47] <mazal> Dan install hy sharp , en maak iso wat werk :)
[05:48] <Kilos> mooi
[05:48] <mazal> Dis net sy cli , maar ek gebruik anyway nog altyd net die cli vir hom
[05:49] <Kilos> gebruik jy 64bit 14.04
[05:49] <mazal> yep
[05:49] <Kilos> ok
[05:50] <Kilos> hi Spekko 
[05:50] <Kilos> wokky laat weer
[05:50] <Spekko> more Kilos
[05:50] <Spekko> jip
[05:50] <Spekko> baie laat
[05:50] <Spekko> rofl
[05:50] <Kilos> haha
[05:51] <Spekko> weeti, ekt hom vanoggend gebel, toe antwoord hy nie, so dink hy is siek.
[05:51] <Kilos> ai!
[05:51] <Spekko> te hard gesuip sekere
[05:51] <Kilos> die mis is so dik hier buite ek kannie 50 meter ver sien nie
[05:52] <Spekko> holy shit, hier is dit maar net bietjie bewolk
[05:52] <Kilos> ons sien net als wit
[05:55] <mazal> Hi Spekko 
[05:56] <Spekko> morning mazal
[05:56] <mazal> Myne is nou redelik stabiel oom , sukkel net nog met lifrea. Hy crash nie meer nie maar gooi elke keer wat ek restart die reading pane se size weg
[05:57] <Kilos> het jy dit en sy dependancies reinstall
[05:57] <Kilos> dit sal nog aflaai eks seker
[05:58] <mazal> Ek dink dis 'n unity thing
[05:59] <Kilos> ek het weer synaptic installeer en as ek van daar reinstall wat in is dan gaan haal dit nog goed
[05:59] <mazal> En barry is op die lug ! :)
[06:00] <Kilos> self as jy unity bo intik en dan al die unity goed reinstall kry dit nog
[06:00] <Kilos> hi bduk 
[06:01] <Kilos> ek kon nog nooit met apt-get en aptitude upgrade kry dat als gedoen is nie
[06:01] <Kilos> moes altyd deur als in synaptic reinstall
[06:02] <Spekko> Hier kom Jabber nou in
[06:02] <Kilos> haha
[06:02] <Kilos> lyk hy swak?
[06:04] <Kilos> hi jabberwocky93 
[06:04] <Kilos> wat stuier jy so
[06:04] <Kilos> kop seer?
[06:08] <jabberwocky93> sjoe nie geweet ek lyk so sleg dat mens oor IRC kan sien nie
[06:08] <jabberwocky93> more Kilos
[06:08] <Kilos> rofl
[06:09] <jabberwocky93> Maaz: coffee on
[06:09]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:10] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[06:10] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[06:10] <Kilos> Maaz, large
[06:10] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[06:13] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for jabberwocky93 and Kilos!
[06:14] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[06:14] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[06:15] <bduk1> More almal
[06:18] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[06:19] <Kilos> mazal, dankie vir die remastersys info
[06:19] <mazal> plz
[06:42] <Private_User> morning all
[06:42] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[06:43] <Private_User> hey Kilos
[06:57] <Kilos> morning superfly ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:03] <Kilos> inetpro, did you get lost in the mist?
[07:05] <superfly> morning Kilos, bduk1, Private_User, jabberwocky93 Spekko
[07:05] <Private_User> morning superfly
[07:05] <Spekko> morning superfly
[07:06] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[07:06] <inetpro> oh and hi to everyone else as well
[07:06] <superfly> morning inetpro!
[07:06] <Kilos> sjoe too cold to be good man
[07:07]  * Kilos sings the mtn song
[07:07] <Kilos> come on summer come on
[07:10] <jabberwocky93> hi superfly
[07:11] <superfly> So, ANC 60%, DA 25% and other parties 15%
[07:11] <superfly> (so far)
[07:11] <superfly> With the DA winning the Western Cape (again)
[07:13] <jabberwocky93> http://www.news24.com/Elections/Results#map=live
[07:14] <jabberwocky93> you can navigate into provinces
[07:14] <jabberwocky93> also don't miss the 'high detail' button
[07:26] <Private_User> morning inetpro
[07:26] <Private_User> morning jabberwocky93
[07:27] <Private_User> morning mazal
[07:27] <Private_User> morning theblazehen
[07:27] <mazal> Morning Private_User 
[07:30] <jabberwocky93> hi Private_User
[07:30] <charl_> hi jabberwocky93, Private_User, superfly, Kilos, inetpro 
[07:31] <Private_User> morning charl_
[07:31] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[07:31]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[07:32] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[07:32] <jabberwocky93> morning charl_
[07:32] <jabberwocky93> Maaz: large
[07:32] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you jabberwocky93
[07:33] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[07:33] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[07:33] <Kilos> Maaz, larger
[07:33] <Maaz> inna bucket for you Kilos
[07:33] <Private_User> Maaz: coffee please
[07:33] <Maaz> Private_User: Yessir
[07:34] <Private_User> Maaz: largest
[07:34] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Private_User?
[07:35] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_, Kilos and Private_User!
[07:36] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:36] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:36] <Private_User> Maaz: thank you
[07:36] <Maaz> Private_User: Sure
[07:40] <Golynx> ><)))'>       ><)))'>    ><)))'>
[07:45] <Golynx> ?
[07:46] <Kilos> whats the funny signs Golynx 
[07:46] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[07:46] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[07:46] <charl_> Kilos: they're ascii art fishes
[07:46] <charl_> hi Vince-0 
[07:46] <Kilos> lol
[07:46] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:46] <Golynx> nothing
[07:48] <Kilos> fish charl_ 
[07:48] <Kilos> multiple of fish is fish
[07:49] <Kilos> methinks
[07:49] <Kilos> Maaz, define fishes
[07:49] <Maaz> Kilos: Crawfish \Craw"fish`\ (kr[add]"f[i^]sh`), Crayfish \Cray"fish`\ (kr[=a]"f[i^]sh`), n.; pl. {-fishes} or {-fish}. [Corrupted fr. OE. crevis, creves, OF. crevice, F. ['e]crevisse, fr. OHG. krebiz crab, G. krebs. See {Crab}. The ending -fish arose from confusion with E. fish.] (Zool.) Any decapod crustacean of the family {Astacid[ae]} (genera {Cambarus} and
[07:49] <Maaz> {Cambarus}), resembling the lobster, but smaller, and found in fresh waters. Crawfishes are …
[07:49] <Kilos> oi
[07:50] <Kilos> haha
[07:55] <Vince-0> G'dayz
[07:58] <Kilos> yay the sun arrived
[07:58] <Private_User> hi Vince-0
[08:03] <Kilos> oh my , we bored ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb?
[08:03] <Kilos> post going today
[08:05] <ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb> nah
[08:09] <ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb> mostly whites here
[08:10] <Kilos> ?
[08:13] <ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb> dont greet the kallit
[08:14] <Kilos> what are you on about
[08:14] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[08:15] <Kilos> you in an argumentative mood again ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb, go back to your nick
[08:18] <ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb> greetings must die
[08:18] <Kilos> golynx wake up and grow up
[08:23] <Private_User> what is kallit ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb?
[08:26] <ltevh5qw8zu3ctrb> brown people , coulred racist south africans . Product of apartheid
[08:29] <Vince-0> Sup!
[08:29] <Vince-0> Private_User, charl_ , Kilos  - another kak day in paradise?
[08:29] <Kilos> yeah looks like
[08:30] <Private_User> yeah same ol same ol different day
[08:30] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[08:30] <Private_User> hi Xethron
[09:22] <charl_> Kilos: it seems like you're right, it's fish, not fishes
[09:24] <Kilos> acually weird but thats the way they did it
[09:26] <Kilos> other things they put an s behind
[09:26] <Kilos> maybe it was to difficult to say fishs
[09:34] <charl_> it's like sheeps, they said no make it sheep instead
[09:34] <Kilos> lol
[09:34] <Kilos> weird hey
[09:39] <Kilos> proper english is actually a very difficult language
[09:41] <Kilos> but its the main international language so there is no choice
[09:42] <charl_> yeah but 90% of the world speak it poorly :P
[09:43] <charl_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EF_English_Proficiency_Index
[09:43] <charl_> NL is third on the list !
[09:44] <charl_> i am interested to know how well england and north america fares but they are not on the list
[09:44] <charl_> i wonder if they can speak their own language
[09:54] <inetpro> no South Africa on the list either
[10:02] <Kilos> haha the peeps in england dont understand each other from town to town
[10:02] <Kilos> thats why they made that song
[10:03] <Kilos> why cant the english learn to speak
[10:06]  * Kilos the walking wounded today
[10:06] <Kilos> got 2 of those thorns through shoes and one under fingernail
[10:15] <Private_User> charl_: its always people who do not invent or create something that become sort of experts or professionals in it
[10:15] <Private_User> eg. Cricket and Rugby both from England
[10:16] <Private_User> hehe
[10:20] <charl_> i would laugh very hard if we in europe can speak better english than they in britain
[10:20] <charl_> that would be epically funny
[10:20] <charl_> i doubt that to be the case though
[10:21] <Private_User> I guess its where you go in Britain
[10:21] <charl_> maybe you get confronted with scottish, irish, gaelic, welsh or cornish
[10:24] <Private_User> I used to speak telephonically to many people from all parts of Britain and I could not see a huge difference between their English and ours however the accent is drastically different from their different areas and this is in England itself
[10:25] <Private_User> and then I spoke to people who lived there for many years and they confirm that depending where you go you will hear a different accent
[10:25] <charl_> i thought the irish can be very hard to understand
[10:25] <charl_> yeah but that's everywhere in europe, the same in NL and DE
[10:26] <charl_> ask anyone who has ever spoken to swiss people, when you hear a swiss person from zurich or somewhere and compare that to a person from berlin, it doens't even sound like the same language
[10:26] <charl_> i find swiss german to be easier to understand because the accent is a lot more similar to dutch
[10:26] <charl_> but the swiss take it to the next level by even pronouncing a "k" like a "ch"
[10:27] <Private_User> yeah in the beginning I used to have an issue but after a while I got used to it although I am not sure if I will still be able to understand them as good as I used to now
[10:27] <Private_User> lol
[10:27] <charl_> so if you ask a swiss person about a potato and they will respond with about a "chartoffel"
[10:28] <Private_User> so you mean kubuntu will be pronounced chu boon too
[10:28] <Private_User> LOL
[10:28] <charl_> probably have never heard it
[10:29] <charl_> http://www.eldrid.ch/swgerman.htm
[10:34] <Private_User> thanks, there are a few sayings here I heard on a series I was watching and understood what was meant but did not get now I understand exactly what was said
[10:34] <Private_User> :)
[10:39] <charl_> it's a strange dialect, most germans complain they don't understand the swiss
[11:32] <mazal> Guys I get this all the time when running various cli commands :
[11:32] <mazal> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[11:32] <mazal> Any ideas ?
[12:13] <theblazehen> Maaz: tell mazal does it do the same when launching GUI apps from the CLI as well? Perhaps something is wrong with a library
[12:13] <Maaz> theblazehen: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[12:20] <magespawn> hi all
[12:23] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[12:26] <Kilos> Ablynx,  RD876310741ZA
[12:29] <Private_User> hi magespawn
[12:32]  * Kilos needs to reboot
[12:32] <Kilos> wbb
[12:36] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:54] <Ablynx> Kilos, ty
[12:54] <Kilos> np
[14:07] <magespawn> now it is home time later all.
[14:17] <superfly> happy birthday, inetpro!
[14:30] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[14:31] <Kilos> happy birthday inetpro may every year just get better and better
[14:55] <inetpro> thank you kindly 
[16:22] <charl_> good evening folks
[16:22] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[16:22]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:22] <charl_> congrats inetpro !!
[16:23] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[16:26] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[16:35] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[16:35] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[16:35] <Maaz> charl_: Okay :-)
[16:40] <charl_> hi spinza 
[16:41] <Kilos> hes a very quiet fella
[17:08] <charl_> hey smile 
[17:11] <smile> hi :D
[17:13] <charl_> nice weather we're having right? :D
[17:13] <charl_> rain rain and more rain
[17:13] <charl_> and then some more rain
[17:14] <charl_> wb theblazehen 
[17:59] <theblazehen> ty charl_ 
[17:59] <theblazehen> brb
[18:18] <inetpro> ai!
[18:18] <inetpro> those IEC servers really need to be changed so they handle the load
[18:19] <inetpro> charl_: thanks
[18:27] <Private_User> inetpro: I had same issues with IEC site. Your can use these links for live results http://www.news24.com/Elections/Results#map=live and SABC has an option to look at your voting district results as well and the link is http://elections.sabc.co.za/Elections2014/RaceForVotes.aspx
[18:40] <inetpro> Private_User: I used the mail and guardians results in the end
[18:40] <theblazehen> When you have skype running in the CLI...
[18:40]  * inetpro just saying that the IEC should do better
[18:40] <theblazehen> Kilos: have a look at Whatsapp for libpurple or something like that
[18:40] <theblazehen> Get whatsapp in pdgin
[18:40] <Private_User> I agree inetpro
[18:40] <theblazehen> pidgin*
[18:41] <inetpro> can't understand why tshwane results are so damn slow
[18:42] <Kilos> hmm... i think i did before theblazehen , have they got it working yet
[18:42] <theblazehen> inetpro: Voting results?
[18:42] <theblazehen> Kilos: I think it might be.. Not too sure
[18:42] <inetpro> theblazehen: yep
[18:42] <theblazehen> Don't wanna try and get a password from my phone now
[18:42] <theblazehen> Setting up a VM, and a proxy and all that
[18:42] <Kilos> cool ty ill have a look
[18:43] <theblazehen> kk, np
[18:43] <theblazehen> also Whosthere
[18:43] <theblazehen> Kilos: ^
[18:43] <Kilos> will that work to whatsapp?
[18:44] <theblazehen> Kilos: it should 
[18:44] <theblazehen> "Whatsapp client for ubuntu
[18:44] <theblazehen> "
[18:45] <Kilos> aha
[18:45] <charl_> what do you do with the password then
[18:45] <charl_> how do you get that off the phone
[18:46] <theblazehen> charl_: you use a MITM proxy with custom SSL cert to allow you to intercept the traffic
[18:46] <charl_> bah
[18:46] <theblazehen> yeah :/
[18:46] <theblazehen> Written in .NET
[18:46] <charl_> you have to execute a full on attack on the stupid thing
[18:46] <theblazehen> yeah :(
[18:47] <theblazehen> Almost wish they kept the old passwords..
[18:47] <charl_> if it falls for a fake cert it is also really weak on security
[18:47] <theblazehen> aka md5(wifiMACAddress)
[18:47] <charl_> what if the NSA does a MITM
[18:47] <theblazehen> charl_: Better than it was :p
[18:47] <charl_> bah that's even worse
[18:47] <theblazehen> that was for iOS
[18:47] <charl_> and if you can do a MITM what prevents anyone else from doing it
[18:47] <theblazehen> android was md5(IMEI)
[18:48] <charl_> this thing has epic fail
[18:48] <theblazehen> charl_: you need to install ssl cert on phone
[18:48] <charl_> ah ok
[18:48] <charl_> that's not so bad then
[18:48] <theblazehen> yeah
[18:51] <theblazehen> charl_: I believe there are ways to ensure security even with that though?
[18:52] <charl_> not sure what you mean ?
[18:53] <theblazehen> charl_: I believe I may have read something where you can ensure SSL security even if someone installs a cert on your device
[18:54] <theblazehen> Probably wrong though..
[18:54] <theblazehen> Doesn't fit in well with my logic
[18:54] <theblazehen> http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/29988/what-is-certificate-pinning ah yes! there we go
[18:55] <charl_> looking
[18:56] <charl_> yes that is correct
[18:56] <charl_> i have done it
[18:56] <charl_> that would be better tooo
[18:56] <theblazehen> kk
[18:56] <theblazehen> yeah..
[18:56] <charl_> or actually what i would do is...
[18:56] <charl_> i would make my own CA (root CA)
[18:56] <theblazehen> Hmm, google and such would be using that correct?
[18:56] <charl_> and then validate all certificates against that
[18:57] <charl_> so it has to have my root CA at the top of the chain
[18:57] <charl_> otherwise it fails
[18:57] <theblazehen> ah yes
[18:57] <charl_> then even if my CA gets exploited and false certificates get generated i am not vulnerable
[18:57] <charl_> and lock the private key of the CA somewhere in a secure safe
[18:57] <theblazehen> Wait, google etc. Wouldn't be able to use it as they can't tel lbrowser to only use their cert, right?
[18:57] <theblazehen> Yeah, good plan
[18:58] <Kilos> whosethere dont work on 14.04 yet they say
[18:58] <Kilos> np will keep looking ty
[18:58] <charl_> yes correct
[18:58] <charl_> websites have to rely on the browser
[18:58] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/5RfTr7D heh, I <3 the terminal a bit TOO much..
[18:58] <charl_> but if you control the client (in the case of an android app) you *should* have control over the TLS layer
[18:59] <charl_> and then you can configure it as you will
[18:59] <theblazehen> yeah
[19:00] <theblazehen> I read in reddit.com/r/netsec a few weeks ago a way for ANY app to access whatsapp DB on android..
[19:00] <charl_> yes but whatsapp is as full of holes as swiss cheese
[19:00] <charl_> it's worse than openssl :P
[19:01] <charl_> it turns out that the code behind openssl is complete filth
[19:01] <charl_> project already got forked by the openbsd people
[19:01] <charl_> libressl or something
[19:01] <theblazehen> yeah, I heard
[19:01] <charl_> and they are busy "stripping at the code"
[19:01] <theblazehen> yep, libreSSL
[19:01] <Kilos> i tried that android sdk thing . too much work and data waste
[19:01] <charl_> because apparently most of the code is indeed not even needed hahahaha :D
[19:01] <Kilos> whatsapp not worth it
[19:01] <theblazehen> Didn't mozilla also have a SSL implementation?
[19:01] <charl_> pssibly, not sure
[19:02] <theblazehen> heh, yeah. And also why the fuck would you implement your own kinda malloc ?!
[19:02] <theblazehen> Believe thats part of what was behind heartbleed
[19:04] <charl_> but since the heartbleed attack they now have one after the other attack
[19:04] <charl_> the other day a denial of service again
[19:04] <theblazehen> yeah, I've heard :D
[19:04] <charl_> patch upon patch
[19:04] <charl_> everyone is looking because the code is horse ****
[19:04] <theblazehen> Well ":D" IF I were wanting to exploit them...
[19:05] <charl_> i don't run openssl on my server any more i just wait for libressl
[19:05] <charl_> openbsd project doesn't mess around
[19:05] <theblazehen> Weren't they stripping away stuff needed for other *nix distributions?
[19:06] <theblazehen> Or not yet?
[19:07] <theblazehen> Anyone here use screen?
[19:08] <Kilos> hmmm...ask inetpro 
[19:08] <charl_> dunno exactly
[19:08] <theblazehen> inetpro: ping
[19:08] <Kilos> i think my bot is using it
[19:08] <charl_> i *used* to use screen
[19:08] <theblazehen> Kilos: probably..
[19:08] <charl_> before switching to byobu
[19:08] <theblazehen> charl_: ok. Easy to make tabs, kinda like tabs in tmux?
[19:09] <theblazehen> I have multiple tmux sessions open, and wanna manage them easily over ssh, without needing to run tmux inside tmux
[19:09] <Kilos> its the only way i can control the bot on the host and not have it crash when i close the terminal
[19:09] <Kilos> i think
[19:09] <Kilos> hi drussell 
[19:09] <theblazehen> Kilos: or use nohup $cmd, or $cmd& && disown
[19:10] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:10] <charl_> theblazehen: yes ctrl+a c
[19:10] <charl_> c for create
[19:11] <charl_> theblazehen: you can easily run tmux inside tmux but then you need to change ctrl+b to something else like ctrl+A
[19:11] <theblazehen> charl_: kk, kinda like tmux then. Does it have a kinda window list?
[19:11] <charl_> in byobu it's easily configurable with f1
[19:11] <charl_> can't recall the window list actually, not sure now
[19:11] <theblazehen> And yeah, but it's gonna be on the same host. Not gonna run tmux on host ssh'ing into my machine
[19:11] <Kilos> theblazehen, ask the pro tomorrow i think he is being treated tonight
[19:12] <Kilos> he is a bit older today
[19:12] <theblazehen> Basically I want to access all my tmux sessions from school, in a single PuTTY session
[19:12] <theblazehen> Kilos: ty
[19:12] <theblazehen> Well "screen screenshots" on google images sure was helpfull...
[19:13] <theblazehen>  /s
[19:13] <charl_> hmmm
[19:15] <theblazehen> It's... adequate:/
[19:16] <theblazehen> charl_: You manage some servers right?
[19:20] <theblazehen> http://qntm.org/suicide Dare you to run this in production..
[19:23] <charl_> bah
[19:23] <charl_> :D
[19:23] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:23] <charl_> sorry it will be a dare i need to refuse
[19:23] <charl_> night Kilos 
[19:23] <charl_> :)
[19:26] <theblazehen> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ5MA685ApE nice!
[19:30] <theblazehen> cya all
[19:30] <inetpro> charl_: pong
[19:30] <theblazehen> inetpro: I believe it was I who pinged you..
[19:30] <theblazehen> Happy birthday BTW
[19:30] <inetpro> oh sorry 
[19:31] <inetpro> thanks theblazehen
[19:31] <theblazehen> Wanted to find out just how horrible it is to use screen
[19:31] <theblazehen> Doesn't seem TOO bad
[19:31] <theblazehen> Since I'm gonna run tmux's inside it anyway
[19:31]  * inetpro can't live without screen
[19:31] <inetpro> or byobu for that matter
[19:31] <theblazehen> hehe
[19:32] <theblazehen> inetpro: You have seen my tmux, right?
[19:32] <inetpro> think I have
[19:32] <theblazehen> kk
[19:32] <theblazehen> Well cya inetpro, charl_ 
[19:32] <inetpro> no need to use screen if you are used to tmux
[19:32]  * inetpro just still very used to screen
[19:33] <theblazehen> inetpro: Gonna run tmux inside screen
[19:33] <inetpro> why?
[19:33] <theblazehen> I normally keep 1 tmux on each workspace in my WM, but can't do it easy over SSH
[19:33] <theblazehen> So use screen and attach all the tmux's there
[19:34] <inetpro> when I run screen inside another screen I start the first one as follows
[19:34] <inetpro> screen -e^Pp
[19:35] <inetpro> check -e in the man page
[19:36] <theblazehen> yeah, tmux can also do it
[19:36] <theblazehen> Would just prefer to manage it with a different multiplexer
[19:36] <inetpro> ok
[19:36] <theblazehen> Don't want my full statusbar etc. twice
[19:37] <inetpro> that makes sense
[19:37] <theblazehen> yeah, well night inetpro, ChanServ 
[19:37] <inetpro> good night
[19:37] <theblazehen> charl_ too I suppose..
[19:39] <charl_> ciao theblazehen :D
[19:39] <charl_> inetpro: ah so you set the default command character to p (in your case)
[19:39] <inetpro> yep
[19:39] <charl_> yes that sounds good
[19:39] <inetpro> and the next one will be the normal a character
[19:39] <charl_> yes
[19:40] <inetpro> and you actually have to think twice before you close the p one
[19:40] <charl_> yeah
[19:40] <inetpro> because the fingers do the a naturally
[19:40] <charl_> that's true you get so used to it
[19:41] <charl_> and p is on the opposite side of the keyboard
[19:41] <charl_> brb have to take the washing out of the dryer
[19:47] <Private_User> inetpro: sorry just read above now its your birthday... Happy Birthday!!!
[19:58] <inetpro> Private_User: thanks
[20:02] <superfly> it's easy to criticise others when you're not in their shoes...
[20:02] <inetpro> superfly: uh?
[20:02] <charl_> hi back