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Bashing-omviper474: I am late to the party, did our project 'klutz' get operational with a minimal install ?00:00
zykotick9Praxi: just as a sidenote, you might be interested in LABELs vs UUIDs, easier IMO00:00
viper474Bashing-om: he's got an issue now.00:00
PurpleHazer* what sorry fontsa small in my client butg sudo does not handle logging it doesent innstruct5 syslog to do anything diff00:00
Praxikk will check it zykotick900:00
sam_____zykotick9:  it returns -rw root root <date> Xauthority00:01
qin_!tab | PurpleHaze00:01
ubottuPurpleHaze: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:01
drakedouayNot sure which channel I should be in. I have questions regarding IPv6 and IPv4, could someone point me to a channel?00:01
rwwPurpleHaze: May  7 17:01:20 magenta sudo:   robert : TTY=pts/3 ; PWD=/home/robert ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/apt-get update00:01
rwwPurpleHaze: this is far more useful than a log entry saying "someone used su to do something! no idea what, but there you go!"00:01
Bashing-omviper474: Active at the present time as guest??? or some other nick ?00:01
PurpleHazeubuntu channel whats up?00:01
zykotick9sam_____: that root root _is_ an issue!  i'm not sure why you can't use "sudo chown sam:sam .Xauthority"  but beyond that, i don't know what you're doing incorrectly00:01
viper474Bashing-om: I think he's borked. We tried to get lxde added and running. Added it to .xinitrc and he rebooted. Now his login screen is blinking and he can't get in. guest9876500:02
nikitisI need a guide to setup vnc on ubuntu 14.04 LTS.00:02
PurpleHazeis this ubuntu v Linux?00:02
nikitisI can't get it to work00:02
Deihmosanyone know how to remove grub from an efi partition00:03
zykotick9sam_____: but going-forward, NEVER use sudo with GUI applications, use "gksudo foo" instead.  or this will happen again00:03
Bashing-omviper474: uhhh, I hate when that happens, mixing GTK engines and themes, not generally IMO, a good idea !00:03
user__sammykur00:04
PurpleHazedehimos if you installed it to the mbr ity wouldnt have been installed if you used the new disk layout shouldnt be a prob00:04
zykotick9sam_____: you could try using the full path, so "sudo chown sam:sam /home/sam/.Xauthority" (note capitailization mAtTeRs)00:05
sam_____zykotick9: I will try it now00:06
Bashing-omguest98765: It's me again. What now is the situation ? maybe I can be of some assistance (??).00:06
PurpleHazedehimos with secure boot things have moved from mbr to g**00:06
nikitisAny experts on VNC?00:06
nikitisI need a hand holder00:06
rwwPurpleHaze: secure boot is unrelated to GPT00:06
rwwYou're perhaps thinking of UEFI.00:06
guest98765Bashing-om: cant login... the screen is blinking to fast...00:06
PurpleHazerww ** was pt00:07
sam_____zykotick9: it didn't give me any error this time I bet it worked00:07
rwwPurpleHaze: yes, hence me pointing out that Secure Boot is unrelated to the move from MBR to GPT00:07
Bashing-omguest98765: You have a login manager now, or is the login attempt from the terminal ?00:07
zykotick9sam_____: try logging in from GUI/DM now :)00:07
PurpleHazerww no have you tried to install grub to gpt when you have come back00:08
zykotick9sam_____: alt+f7 will probably get you back to GUI BTW00:08
rwwPurpleHaze: Yes.00:08
PurpleHazego on then?00:09
guest98765Bashing-om:  terminal00:09
rwwPurpleHaze: Please explain how this is relevant to secure boot?00:09
PurpleHazelol more like no you didnt00:09
sam_____zykotick9: It worked00:09
Deihmosi installed ubuntu and now I want to get rid of it. Deleted the partions but I still see it at boot menu00:09
Bashing-omguest98765: think'n .00:09
* zykotick9 has used GPT partitions, but has never used UEFI, so also believe those are unrelated... rww00:09
zykotick9sam_____: NICE!00:09
sam_____zykotick9: thank you verymuch. I will post the solution in forum aswell or if you want to post it to increase reputation00:10
qin_Deihmos: And what system are you using?00:10
rwwzykotick9: Indeed. I was oversimplifying in an attempt to move things closer to reality :)00:10
viper474Bashing-om: only thing I could think is mount from livecd or different computer. But I think he's getting tired of this.00:10
Deihmosefi00:10
qin_Deihmos: os?00:10
Deihmoswin 800:10
PurpleHazeok as a sign of note fuck the ubuntu support channel the heads donnt even know linux00:10
PurpleHazenight00:11
qin_Bye00:11
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zykotick9sam_____: i don't use ubuntu forums, so go right ahead!00:11
sam_____zykotick9: ok Thanks again. I though I have to do all my setting on a new user . now I don't have to00:12
sam_____zykotick9: so next time that I want to run lightdm I have to type gksudo lightdm???00:12
zykotick9sam_____: final message: don't use sudo with GUI anymore ;)00:12
qin_sam_____: lightdm is a service!!!!00:13
zykotick9sam_____: ahhh, lightdm would need to be started from console would it not?  so gksudo won't work there!?!00:13
qin_sam_____: sudo service lightdm stop|start|restart00:13
sam_____zykotick9:  so gksudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list is better?00:13
zykotick9sam_____: OH yes!00:14
sam_____ok now I see thanks qin and zykotick900:14
q0why's ubuntu source files are like an italian spagetti ?00:17
q0different from all the other OSes and full of unique labels00:17
rwwq0: which source files?00:17
q0system headers and sources00:18
Trillionairemmm..spagetti...00:18
zykotick9q0: that's the ubuntu-way ;)  see /etc/apt/source.list.d/ directory for PPAs/etc.00:18
rwwzykotick9: I'm not sure if they mean that or source code / headers00:18
nikitisI need help, I've setup xfce4 and vncserver and have run it, When i connect via tightvncviewer on a windows box, it connects but all I get is a grey screen and X cursor.  Ubuntu 14.04.  I don't know how to fix this.  Please help.00:18
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zykotick9rww: nor am i ;)00:19
q0there isn't anything in that folder, i think i meant the source code/headers00:19
Bashing-omguest98765: can you reboot to the grub menu ? maybe we can get to a terminal using "text" boot paamater ??00:19
q0of the system base, kernel and includes etc00:20
rwwq0: do you have a specific example of something that's spaghetti in Ubuntu and not in some other OS?00:20
q0yes 1 sec00:20
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Bashing-omviper474: for guest98765 I had also considered maybe burning a liveDVD, and change rooting into the install, maybe though we can get a terminal through grub.00:22
syeekickalternative to wicd-curses?00:22
viper474Bashing-om: he made it into the login now00:22
zykotick9syeekick: manually with /etc/network/interfaces <- not that i'd want to...00:23
mib_mibhi all - i just installed ubuntu 14.04 and python - except i get this error: >> import io as _io  >> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/io.py", line 51, in <module>  >> import _io  >>ImportError: No module named _io -- what is this all about? anyone encoutered this?00:23
syeekickyuck00:23
guest98765Bashing-om: no DVD... this cd has problems with CDs over 670...00:24
guest98765Bashing-om: one minute... rebooting from purge lxde00:25
cpinedhello, I have Fedora 64 running in virtualbox, can I stop the windows from resizing everytime I move the mouse?00:25
Bashing-omviper474: guest98765 , well if we hve a terminal, there is hope we can  fix things. guest98765 so long as we have a terminal, no need for a DVD.00:25
DaRude2Soooo tried to install catalysy fglrx driver on a clean install rebooted and now i can't log in, after entering the password screen flickers and just asks for password again hmmmm00:26
Bashing-omDaRude2: Might try booting with grub's "nomodeset" parameter, once to the desk top, might be able to change that driver.00:27
tb0111011Out of curiosity, why is the password locked on the root account by default?00:27
DaRude2Bashing-om: just removed xorg.conf will try nomodeset if that wont work00:29
Bashing-omtb0111011: see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo .00:32
guest98765Bashing-om: viper474  rebooted and still blinking after purging lxde00:32
viper474guest98765: I think it's .xinitrc if you haven't changed it back00:33
Bashing-omguest98765: Yeh, that file is going to be parsed. need it to be right !00:33
elfMobilehow do you install ia32-libs on 14.04?00:34
vonsyd0whello, how do you select another wired network connection in ubuntu 14.04/gnome 3.11? I've created a static IP connection, but it defaults to the default "Wired Connection". I'm stumped00:34
vonsyd0wThe wired network connection icon is gone from the top bar, so you cannot select a specific connection, only a wifi connection.00:35
guest98765Bashing-om: viper474 so puppy linux might work?00:35
viper474Bashing-om: we started down this path because calibre warned about no x server.00:36
Bashing-omviper474: I would think that with xorg install, "Xserver" should be taken care of, hang on a tic and let me check with my system (xfce4).00:37
Ben64elfMobile: you don't. you install the individual ones that you need00:37
viper474Bashing-om: yea, so I thought but it kept telling him unable to connect after startx00:38
guest98765Bashing-om: viper474   well this is interesting .... everything just went dead...00:38
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Bashing-omviper474: xorg -> Depends: xserver-xorg , Depends: x11-xserver-utils ; should have been covered !00:40
hjkhli changed the /etc/hosts and i've deleted the entry, but now it keeps pointing to the changed host no matter what.00:41
Bashing-omguest98765: dead ? try key combo ctl+alt+Prt_Scrn + reisub , press the sequence reisub while the other 3 are depressed s l o w l y. should shut down gracefully and reboot.00:42
hjkhlnevermind its working again.00:43
guest98765Bashing-om: viper474 need to shut down @ 9 and head for the bed... 9 days of vacation has come to an end... any recomendations for a thin distro other than puppy?00:44
Bashing-omguest98765: There are many, for fast light and works - firefox - out of the box, try DSL ( Damn Small Linux ), I have been impressed with it !00:45
guest98765Bashing-om: DSL and puppy have guis?00:46
Bashing-omguest98765: yes, both do. I have not used puppy, have heard good things too about it . With DSL, one has to pre partition ( easy to do).00:47
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guest98765Bashing-om:  i do that with gparted anyhow...00:48
elfMobilepackage to get CPU temp?00:48
Bashing-omguest98765: with DSL, the partitioner is included with the installer.00:49
guest98765Bashing-om:  ok I will down load both and put them on a cd and see what happens...00:50
Bashing-omelfMobile: one: -> sudo apt-get install lm-sensors <-.00:50
DaRude2Bashing-om:  nomodeset didn't help. I do get the login screen but only on one monitor, and same thing after i enter password it just cycles back to login screen00:51
Bashing-omguest98765: Right on, Like I say, for what it is DSL is impressive, blows me away what it will run on and perform !00:52
guest98765Bashing-om: viper474 it might be a few weeks before I have a chance to drop back in here... But I will be reading about thin distros and check out my choices00:52
guest98765Bashing-om: terminal commands? are they Debian?00:52
CiddHey all. I was wondering if any of you genius people could help me with a weird issue I have since after today's update?00:53
guest98765Bashing-om:  for DSL00:53
Bashing-omDaRude2: Humm, maybe more here than the graphics driver ??00:53
DaRude2Bashing-om: shouldn't clean install graphics driver is the first thing i tried00:53
Bashing-omguest98765:  Yeah, DSL is linux alla the way. debian terminal commands same same, results may be slightly different.00:55
ImpatientJerkI am performing a standard LVM/Luks installation of Ubuntu 14.04.  At the last stages of the install, I receive the notice "Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.', accompanied by '...attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled...' in the syslog.  What might cause this?00:56
guest98765Bashing-om:  good starting point being Debian...00:56
Bashing-omDaRude2: Clean install, and have yet to get it to boot ? // what box, and what graphics chips are we talking about here.00:57
Bashing-omguest98765: Debian is linux, as long as it is linux, we are in good hands.00:58
guest98765Bashing-om:  Mandriva had some really wierd commands.... urpmi  etall00:58
Bashing-omguest98765: Just be aware, that this is ubuntu support channel, we can not help directly with other distributions.00:59
guest98765Bashing-om: viper474  thanks for all your help with ubuntu mini... I know...  still thanks for all your help.01:00
Bashing-omguest98765: Well ! Glad I have not been there !.. susie, slackware and a couple other ( hey knopix is nice !) , some small experience, does not extend to all of them, HUH ?01:01
Moleannith1210:  Ben64 If I make a mistake in one of these commands, how can I know?01:02
viper474guest98765: only a little dissapointed we couldn't get you up and running.01:02
jcstarkenShould I upgrade to 14.04?01:02
Ben64Molean: it will probably tell you01:02
Bashing-omguest98765: Glad to assist, it is and was interesting, may not be the end to it yet. I still think with care and attention can be done.01:03
MoleanBen64: tell me what exactly?01:03
Ben64Molean: an error message will come up01:04
Bashing-omDaRude2: You still hang'n with us ? machine ? and chip set known ? or back up and regroup.01:05
Bashing-omjcstarken: Open ended question there, what release are you running now, and why do you consider a release upgrade ?01:08
DaRude2Bashing-om: it did boot but only 3 out of 4 monitors came up, so first thing i tried was to switch from radeon to ati drivers. I see now that lshw shows that there were no drivers associated with vedeo cards01:08
jcstarkenBashing-om: 12.04 lts, and the reason I call it an upgrade is because of the new features I have read about01:09
DaRude2just purged fglrx rebooted with default radeon driver it booted to login screen and got the "Could not switch monitor configuration/could not set the configuration for CRTC 64" pop up01:10
Deihmosanyone know how to mount a efi system partition01:10
MoleanBen64: why type a command to reboot, couldn't I just use the reset button for the same effect?01:10
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Bashing-omDaRude2: Multiple monitors is not in my spere of knowledge. But yeah, gotta have the drivers to drive them. Are you up on a desk top presently ?01:10
Ben64Molean: if you want to potentially damage your filesystem, sure01:11
jcstarkenBashing-om: i am using a laptop and can not afford a new mac so looking to build a machine that will run really well with ubuntu I have 12.04 just how I want it but 14.04 seems smoother01:11
MoleanBen64: It says it will default everything, it means only the video card drivers, right?01:12
Ben64Molean: pretty much all video stuff01:12
DaRude2Bashing-om: yeah loged in with a bunch of report this problem popups. Oh and it's running two Radeon HD 2600XT, on Intel Q6600 cpu01:13
MoleanBen64: Would it mean having to reput in codex's?01:13
Ben64Molean: no01:13
Bashing-omjcstarken: Yeah, I do understand from postings that 14.04 is much smoother, and there are enhabcements. I have also seen to wait for 14.04.1 to be released before upgrading. Yhink at this point it is all a perrsonal thing, I have seen no one unhappy going to 14.04 from 12.04.01:13
MoleanBen64: So basically only the video card drivers, and nothing else, right?01:14
jcstarkenBashing-om: Thank you for your time.01:14
Ben64Molean: any other customizations of xorg too01:14
MoleanBen64: What does xorg do?01:15
Ben64!xorg | Molean01:15
ubottuMolean: X.Org is an implementation of the X Windows System, and is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart it on an Ubuntu system, type 'sudo service lightdm restart'. To fix screen resolution or other X.Org problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution . See also !xorgconf01:15
TM26I just read about .. Ubuntu has a dark side !! With NSA ??? Is that truth.???01:15
Bashing-omDaRude2: how old are the 2600xt cards ?? not sure about the nomenclature of those cards, AMD dropped support for the 2X/3X/4X series of cards ? recon this applies to your cards ?01:15
MoleanBen64: I set to a different DE then original, will my work with the DE be undone?01:16
Ben64TM26: nope01:16
Ben64Molean: unlikely01:16
rwwTM26: I'm sure #ubuntu-offtopic would love to debate the evidence of that in exquisite detail.01:17
Bashing-omjcstarken: hey np : ) .. we are all in this together !01:17
TM26rww thaks dude !!! :)01:17
MoleanBen64: Besides video drivers and video settings, what else might be effected by the xorg reset?01:17
Ben64Molean: should be it01:17
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slipnotDoes anyone have a good step by step to share printers on a kubuntu machine with a windows machine. I tried a lot of things with no avail01:24
dhidyawdiyanhowdy all01:29
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ytainhello, is anyone here able to help me figure out why my laptop is randomly turning off? I'm running Ubuntu 14.04, and that behaviour of shutting down randomly did start about a week ago. I cannot find any crash errors or something like that in the logs. How I can determine why?01:30
cfhowlettytain on battery/AC?01:30
ytainAC01:30
ytainit also happens while on battery01:30
IdleOneover heating01:31
cfhowlettytain and ONLY in buntu?01:31
ytainthe time between random shutdowns varies01:31
ytainmy laptop sits on a notebook cooler, so it's not overheating01:31
cfhowlettIdleOne but heated shutdown leaves a log or console message, right?01:31
ytainthe temperature monitor shows me normal temperature levels for hdd and cpu01:31
IdleOnecfhowlett: it should yes01:32
ytainany ideas?01:33
cfhowlettIdleOne no messages suggest a hardware error to me: short--circuit.  a spring on my drive flapdoor got loose and shorted to the mobo causing all kinds of bizarre behaviors.01:33
pak-brengping01:33
cfhowlett!test|pak-breng01:34
ubottupak-breng: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )01:34
jcstarkenBashing-om: one other question if say I do load the new release should I stay with 32bit or migrate to 64bit,01:35
pak-brengi think latest version of ubuntu more smooth in my machine, i was used x6401:38
JU1CEHello01:41
Tippiitoeshey01:44
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elfMobileI have the sensors command working... is there a widget I can install?01:48
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elfMobilethis seems like an empty room01:52
Beldareveryone is at dinner, ;)01:52
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macscam1hey i have windows an ubuntu dual istalled on my lenovo ideapad. It's always given me a choice of which OS to boot when i turn it on, but now it goes straight to Ubuntu and also I can't access my Windows hard drive from within ubuntu like I could before. Any tips?01:53
adeligenI'm having problem with my audio "popping". When I open up Sound Settings I see "Analog Output" with a "Headphones" entry flickering in and out (in time with the pops). How would I go about debugging this?01:54
elfMobilelol... sersiously though.  How do I get an applet to show up?  I installed sensors-applet01:54
adeligenmacscam1, sounds like an issue with GRUB. Your config maybe set to hide the prompt01:54
Nimbleanyone know how to get the sound indicator to appear in 14.04?01:56
NimbleI've tried dpkg-reconfigure indicator-sound and I've tried to reinstall that package01:56
Nimbleand rebooting and stuff01:56
adeligenmacscam1 what is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT set to in /etc/default/grub ?01:57
sysrootadeligen, you will not see the timer in grub with HIDDEN_TIMEOUT enabled01:58
sysrooti usually set the timeout to 0 and leave hidden_timeout enabled01:59
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hanasakiwhat should I look for as to why ubuntu running in kvm with spice is such a slow gui?  the system is low load and a a high end i702:00
macscam1adeligen https://gist.github.com/MaxPleaner/57f69384fe4cb480e3d602:01
adeligenah, my bad. For some reason I was thinking that hid the menu...02:01
christyI heard something about alsa amp or preamp (work around for low audio).  Anyone have information about it?02:08
sysrootadeligen, just change the timeout to 0 and you will not see the grub menu at booting02:09
Deihmosi don02:13
Deihmosi don't understand the purpose of adding online accounts . it does not seem to serve any purpose02:13
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s3ri0uscan anyone recommend a way to manage old log files, automatically deleting them etc02:15
meganerds3ri0us: logrotate02:15
s3ri0ussweet, thanks meganerd02:15
meganerds3ri0us: np02:16
jose__hello02:16
jose__do you speak in english02:16
cfhowlett_!english|jose__02:16
ubottujose__: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList02:17
Bashing-oms3ri0us: Hey, cron should call 'logrotate' and manage logs on a schedule. cron is not doing so ?02:18
hanasakianyone here an admin on the ubuntu forum site?  it keeps telling me to confirm my login, saying its confirmed, then asking for confirmation again02:20
Ri881Is it possible to run a GUI tool on command line so that "it doesn't care" if there is actually a GUI. Dummy GUI if you want02:21
willwhRi881: sounds like you have something specific in mind?02:22
meganerdRi881: a gui needs to be running, though you can spawn in that session over ssh02:22
willwhp.s. that's a hilariou question02:22
willwh:)02:22
willwh+s02:22
meganerdRi881: export DISPLAY=":0"02:22
meganerdRi881: before your command02:22
willwhthat would do it ;]02:22
willwh(I've been playing xvfb a lot recently... was getting to it, I promise ;) )02:22
willwhwith*02:22
Ri881meganerd: willwh ah, thanks :) I will test this02:23
meganerdRi881: you wouldn't be coin mining by any chance?02:23
Ri881meganerd: yap. Damn daemon not available02:24
Ri881meganerd: and no source02:24
rwwhanasaki: try #ubuntuforums02:25
Deihmosi don't understand the purpose of adding online accounts . it does not seem to serve any purpose02:30
willwhDeihmos: there isn't much really02:32
derekeeeeelybored02:35
Deihmosone thig I don't get about linux is the amount of time it takes to install simple things02:37
Deihmosto install my printer driver software it is a long process. on windows all i click is an exe. Why is it like that?02:38
loayou forgot about time to find that exe02:38
cfhowlett_!ot| Deihmos or ask in ##linux.02:39
ubottuDeihmos or ask in ##linux.: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:39
Deihmoswell it is ubuntu sooftware02:39
cfhowlett_Deihmos yes, but rants/complaints are far from support so - offtopic is the best channel02:40
Deihmossimple question02:40
user__I look at it like this how long would it take you to earn the money to pay for just the OS and the preinstalled software if you were using windows?02:41
cfhowlett_Deihmos windows ain't linux.   linux ain't windows.  differences are to be expected.02:41
* mintgreen is away: さようなら02:42
cfhowlett_Deihmos when enough people demand OEM support, this situation will improve.  until the, we rely on the volunteers and coders to hack/crack and back-engineer the required drivers.02:42
Deihmosthis is oem software02:42
cfhowlett_Deihmos your hardware has OEM linux support?  nice!02:43
Deihmoshttp://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html02:43
cfhowlett_!details|Deihmos02:43
ubottuDeihmos: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)02:43
ok_me..02:45
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baduserHi. For some weird reason I can access every site on the internet, except www.youtube.com. When I try to ping that hostname I get: ping: unknown host www.youtube.com. The most weird thing is, this happened the last 2 hours and I didn't change anything in my DNS/network configuration.02:50
baduserBefore that, it worked fine.02:50
gartralin 13.10, where is the screen saver settings?02:51
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gartralbaduser: what does /etc/hosts say?02:53
adeligenI'm having problem with my audio "popping". When I open up Sound Settings I see "Analog Output" with a "Headphones" entry flickering in and out (in time with the pops). How would I go about debugging this?02:54
Ben64baduser: sounds like a network problem, not an ubuntu problem02:54
badusergartral: it's full of ad-serving hostnames I blocked years ago (hundreds of entries), but cat  /etc/hosts | grep www.youtube.com doesn't yield anything.02:55
gartralbaduser: and cat /etc/hosts | grep youtube02:56
gartralbaduser: humor me02:56
badusergartral: nothing02:57
Ben64baduser: pastebin "dig www.youtube.com02:57
Ben64without that quote02:57
baduserBen64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7413832/03:00
Ben64baduser: use a different/better dns server03:01
Sivik4.2.2.1 and 8.8.8.8 and 4.2.2.2 are good global nameservers03:01
baduseralright. thanks.03:02
rushiophi, i have a little problem, i want to update my 12.04 ubuntu to 14.04 from a usb, but when i boot it, it's sent me to grub menu.03:13
rushiophow i go to the virtual desktop and install it from it?03:13
MoleanHELP please, I changed video cards because the old one died, but then I couldn't get into desktop, so I boot from usb live and get some instructions03:20
Moleanhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-propretary-ati-drivers03:20
MoleanBut it's not working right03:20
Moleanwhen I choose sudo rm , it says there is no such directory. Abd03:20
Moleanand03:20
MoleanIt can't find either libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 or libgl1-mesa-dri:i38603:22
MoleanI tried the rest of the instructions despite this, but not the problems worse03:23
MoleanAnyone here?03:23
hjkhli reinstalled ubuntu 14.04 and i cant find the packages in the software center (ran apt-get update) still no luck03:23
islam?03:24
hjkhl(i find packages, but i dont find everything i used to find)03:24
MoleanAny knowledgable helpers on?03:25
cfhowlett!ask|Molean03:25
ubottuMolean: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:25
Moleancfh I already asked03:25
MoleanIm not going to repeat the whole thing over and over03:25
Moleancfh, are you free to help?03:26
cfhowlettMolean post the details.  you're thread is one of THOUSANDS ...03:27
cfhowlett*your*03:27
* mintgreen is away: ロンドンで証券ディーラーとして働くセバスチャンは、父親レミが癌を患っているとの知らせを聞き、故郷のモントリオールに戻る。歴史学の教授であるレミは頑固で酒好き、更に女癖が悪03:28
Moleancfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7413895/03:31
cfhowlettMolean I read it.  I've not encountered/handled this issue, but your process seems sound.  no idea why it didn't work.  Only suggestion: reboot and reinstall your drivers.  (I know, PITA ...)03:33
Moleancfhowlett: How do I install or uninstall drivers if I can't get to the desktop?03:34
MoleanI know it's possible, but I lack the necessary expertise03:34
cfhowlettMolean boot to command line03:34
MoleanThen write a poem?03:34
cfhowlettMolean ok, wait ...03:34
cfhowlettMolean, sorry, forgot the correct terminology = recovery mode:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode03:42
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Moleanis that different then the menu I get when I press f2?03:43
Moleanwell either way I get dumped into a command prompt03:44
Moleanwhich does me no good at all03:44
cfhowlettMolean ??? you can install anything from the command line!03:44
Psil0CybinHey can someone answer this silly question for me, I am using UFW and am getting spammed by my router :S for some reason (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222335) in the forum post you can see examples, is this normal? I am reading up on getting multicast addresses from your router ip sending your packets or something03:45
Psil0Cybindo i block this? leave it be03:45
Psil0Cybinor what, becasue it looks like its flooding my logs every couple of minutes/seconds03:46
Moleancfhowlett: Only if you know how03:46
vicsar.03:47
timinixHello Everyone! Looking for some help regarding an application I need to run for work.03:47
Moleancfhowlett: So would you please help me?03:48
holsteinPsil0Cybin: its your router, and you should be able to trust it.. you are communicating with it, and it will be communicating back.. maybe try a security specific channel for more detail03:48
Moleanholstein:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7413895/03:48
holsteinMolean: you can use "sudo apt-get auto-remove package-name" typically.. have you tried?03:48
Y2KVetIt looks like ALSA crashes Skype.  Any work around?03:48
MoleanI don't know the names of what I need to add or remove03:48
holsteinMolean: you dont "choose sudo rm"..03:49
holsteinMolean: that doesnt even make sense, but dont run "sudo rm" to uninstall a driver or package03:49
MoleanI didn't type the word choose, I was just saying I used that command03:49
holsteinMolean: have you tried the graphics recovery kernel?03:49
holsteinMolean: sure *dont* use that command to uninstall a driver or package03:50
Moleanholstein: You mean that link is giving bad advice?03:50
* Y2KVet agrees with holstein!03:50
Psil0Cybinholstein, which channel should i connect to? and how can I unblock/whitelist, that my ip/my router gateway. Of course it is obvious, but although it blocks packets, I am still able to browse the internet fine thus i am confused03:50
Moleanholstein: What do you mean by graphics recovery kernel?03:50
Psil0Cybinwhy it is blocking some but not all...or how it is working exactly.03:51
holsteinMolean: im not saying anything more or less than im saying, friend.. sudo rm does what it does, which is *not* uninstalling a package or driver03:51
holsteinMolean: i mean, when you boot the machine, you see entries in grub.. one is for emergency recovery, which has options for "fixing" the graphics03:51
holsteinMolean: have you tried that?03:51
holsteinMolean: have you looked for an xorg.conf file? have you tried setting an xorg.conf file for a vesa driver?03:52
Moleanholstein:  Which menu options do I choose to get to it?03:52
Moleanholstein: Is this or is this not good instructions listed here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-propretary-ati-drivers?03:52
holsteinMolean: you should be able to use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 to create an xorg.conf that will allow you to boot to your normal desktop and remove the drivers03:52
holsteinMolean: have you tried the recovery console? or the vesa driver? if not, please try them03:53
holsteinMolean: the guide you link is likely not from someone in your exact scenario03:53
Moleanholstein: How do I try them?03:53
Moleanholstein: So don't use it?03:54
ripp_steakfaceis there a good way to install a graphical applet or something to display temperature sensor info? xfce4-xfapplet-plugin doesn't exist for me03:54
holsteinMolean: what would you like to do, friend?03:54
holsteinMolean: do you want to remove the driver via the command line?03:54
Moleanholstein: Get to my desktop03:55
holsteinMolean: if so, go to is, and use the commands from the page you linked03:55
holsteinMolean: so, in a terminal.. "sudo apt-get purge fglrx*03:55
holsteinMolean: then sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:55
holsteinMolean: have you done that?03:55
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quietoneone of our office users keeps losing the icons on the left. how to fix? 12.04LTS03:55
holsteinMolean: if you have, then you have uninstalled the ati drivers you reference, and removed any xorg.conf files in place.. then, you reboot and test..03:56
Moleanholstein: As that is what the guide said, yes I did. Would you please start answering a few questions and not switching topics so much03:56
Moleanholstein: Should I use http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-propretary-ati-drivers  this guide or not? Yes or no?03:56
holsteinMolean: i assure you , the *entire* topic here is me volunteering my time to getting to your desktop03:56
holsteinMolean: you *did* use that guide03:57
hikaruBGhi all03:57
ripp_steakfacehullo03:57
hikaruBGdoes anyone knows relatively cheap Java Hosting?03:57
holsteinMolean: so, its irrelevant.. we are moving on.. did you run those 2 commands and reboot? if not, do that now and report03:57
Moleanholstein: Well not exactly since things didnt work as they were suppose to. Should I have used it? Should I continue to work to get this guide to work, or is it flawed?03:57
MarlaBrownholstein: don't say anything but the exact thing i want to hear about my question03:58
holsteinMolean: elaboarate, please.. did you run the 2 commands i gave in a terminal? yes?03:58
holsteinMarlaBrown: who are you?03:58
Moleanholstein: Yes I said, and as I said in the paste bin  sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf tells me there is no such directory03:58
holsteinMarlaBrown: are you Molean ?.. please use only one nick to repond to me.. thanks03:59
MarlaBrowni am marlabrown obviously03:59
MoleanNo. I am not marla03:59
holsteinMolean: ok. so, did you reboot? if not, do that now, and report, then we move on03:59
MarlaBrownholstein: i was satirizing their request of you03:59
holsteinMarlaBrown: ok.. i didnt read your question04:00
Moleanholstein: I can not talk to you and do these things at the same time, as I explained in the pastebin, I am using the very PC in question off a live flash drive04:00
holsteinMarlaBrown: oh.. i see..04:00
Moleanholstein: anyway, yes, I did, I explained what I did and the results, so why do you ask what I already told you?04:00
holsteinMolean: sure.. just come back when you are ready to troubleshoot.. fixing this issue will require rebooting to test the graphics04:00
Moleanholstein: So you aren't going to help me?04:00
holsteinMolean: i asked, because its the next step.. thats all.. i do not mean any harm..04:01
Moleanholstein: You ignore what I ask and what I answer, how can you help me that way?04:01
holsteinMolean: you need to reboot to see if the graphics work now that you have the driver purged04:01
cfhowlettMolean he's TRYING to help you!04:01
MarlaBrownhow can one answer when one ignores04:01
Moleanbut considering hes not listening to me, how can he?04:01
holsteinMolean: reboot *is* the next step.. if you cant reboot, then, come back when you can04:01
MoleanI rebooted already like I told you at least three times now!!!04:01
holsteinMolean: its not a big deal .. thats just the next thing in the loop..04:01
MoleanYou are instructing me to do things I already explained I did right from the beginning04:02
holsteinMolean: ok.. so, if you have purged the driver, and the xorg.conf, and tested after reboot, and you would like to boot to a desktop, what i would do is try a vesa driver to get to a normal desktop where you can work04:02
Moleanholstein: How?04:03
holsteinMolean: i realise this must be frustrating for you,with broken hardware.. and trying to replace.. but please use patience.. we are all volunteers.. thanks04:03
holsteinMolean: one easy way to use the vesa driver is to put an xorg.conf in place that specifies it.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127020904:04
Moleanholstein: My impatience comes from your ignoring my words, not with any software or hardware04:04
MarlaBrownimpatience comes from within04:04
holsteinMolean: ok.. please try and be consice. all i need is.. you run 2 commands and reboot.. if you did that, thats fine04:04
Moleanwell impatience is the wrong word anyway, frusteration04:04
MarlaBrownalso comes from within04:04
MarlaBrown#justsayin04:05
MoleanAnd also as I explained, the second command resulted it it saying there was no such directory anyway04:05
holsteinMolean: back to the case at hand, please.. did you create the xorg.conf?04:05
Moleanholstein: I will try that now04:05
holsteinMolean: sure.. the second command is "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf".. you run it, you are presented with a message that states you dont have that file.. thats fine04:05
Ben64Molean: so did you stop following the instructions at that point04:06
holsteinMolean: please, move on from that, and if you have not ran *precisely* the 2 commands and then rebooted the machine *regardless* of messages and output please do so04:06
ndyspeech dispathcer is disable at startup how to enable it ubuntu is not mkin sound because of it04:07
holsteinquietone: losing? you think they are accidentally removing them?04:08
Moleanholstein: I ran those commands, and also ran the other commands listed on the webpage, like the instructions said, Like told you many times already04:08
Moleanand rebooted04:09
Moleanlike I said04:09
quietoneholstein, no, they just disappear and she can't work.04:09
holsteinMolean: ok.. and the vesa xorg.conf?04:09
Moleanholstein: that I ran the other commands negate running the first two?04:09
Moleanworking on it04:09
holsteinMolean: how about the recovery mode? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode#Booting_into_recovery_mode04:10
Moleanholstein: What about it? Meaningless04:10
Moleanholstein: I had to go to that mod to input the previous commands, Like I said. And nothing I can do there if I dont know what to do there, like I said04:11
holsteinquietone: they actually dont disappear. they are there when the application is open, and you can ask that they stay in the dock.. but, if they are not specified to stay, they do basically disappear.. have you researched the situation?04:11
holsteinMolean: ok.. so, you have tried the graphics recovery mode there?04:11
Moleanhow many times are you going to repeat yourself, asking the same questions of me, ignoring my answers every time, and ignoring the questions I ask you too, holstain?04:11
Moleanholstein: I asked you how to do that, you never told me04:11
holsteinMolean: have you tried the graphics recovery mode there?04:12
Moleanholstein: HOW??????04:12
holsteinMolean: its in the menu, friend.. where you choose the terminal mode04:12
quietoneholstein, I recall setting it so the dock is always on screen04:12
Moleanholstein: Is it in the first level of gnome menu?04:12
holsteinquietone: but, each application?04:12
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holsteinMolean: no.. .you are stating you are not able to boot gnome04:12
Moleanholstein: Which menu options should I choose to get to graphics recovery mode?04:13
quietoneholstein, I don't follow you. but all the icons on the left hand side simply go away and the user can't access them at all04:13
Moleanholstein: I mean the f2 menu04:13
Moleanwhatever its called04:13
holsteinMolean: this is why i keep repeating.. i get confuse when you mention gnome at this point04:13
holsteinMolean: are you in gnome?04:13
MoleanThe one time you listen to me, it's when I use the wrong term, geez. Whats the proper term for the f2 menu?04:13
holsteinquietone: try opening the application, and while the application is open, right click on it, and see if you see an option for "keep in dock"04:14
Moleanholstein:  Whats the proper term for the f2 menu?04:14
holsteinMolean: i feel there have been many wrong terms, which, im willing to be patient with, but i do need to be sure.. and know exactly what is going on.. so i ask for confirmation04:14
Moleanholstein:  Whats the proper term for the f2 menu?04:15
holsteinMolean: f2 wont happen there either. you are stating you are not in the desktop04:15
Moleanholstein: A, grub menu, I wish you'd have just answered04:15
holsteinMolean: from grub, you select the recovery mode. as stated here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode#Booting_into_recovery_mode04:15
holsteinMolean: from there, you can try the graphics recovery tool.. if you have not, you may find it solves your issue04:16
Moleanholstein: Then?04:16
Moleanholstein:  Then?04:16
holsteinMolean: then, just that.. ^ thy the fix tool04:16
Moleanholstein: No give me specific instructions04:16
holsteinMolean: select the recovery mode from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode#Booting_into_recovery_mode.. go to the graphics recovery mode, and follow the promts04:17
Moleanholstein: So your calling that stupid command prompt "graphics recovery mode"?04:17
Ben64Molean: you're going to need to try at least a little bit04:18
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Moleanholstein: I already knew how the hell to get to the stupid command prompt, so please stop bringing it up already. If you don't have any instructions for what to do with that command prompt, you aren't helping me04:18
holsteinMolean: this is not a "fix", but just a troubleshooting step that may or may not help.. if you find it "stupid" try the vesa xorg.conf. you can place that on the drive from a live CD if you prefer04:19
cfhowlettMolean frustration is understandable but unhelpful ... please dial back the attitude.04:19
Ben64Molean: everyone here is a volunteer. if you don't wish people to volunteer to ignore you, try to understand what is being said04:19
holsteinMolean: there is a specific graphics recovery mode in there.. not the terminal mode.. but the actual graphics recovery mode04:19
Moleancfhowlett: Well I don't like people saying very unhelpful things and not listening yet carrying the fiction of doing the opposite04:19
Moleanholstein: How do I reach it?04:20
Ben64Molean: he's told you countless times already04:20
Moleannot oncre04:20
holsteinMolean: if you dont see it, move on, friend.. try the vesa mode xorg.conf04:20
Moleannot once04:20
servoif everyone else is wrong, you might be the one who is wrong04:20
MoleanThis linke https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode#Booting_into_recovery_mode does not say a word about a "graphics recovery mode"04:20
holsteinMolean: ok.. no worries, friend.. try option 2..04:21
Ben64Molean: thats how to get to the recovery, yes, there is an option there for graphics04:21
holsteinMolean: again, i realist you are frustrated. but, we didnt break anything here04:21
holsteinrealize*04:21
MoleanBen64: and where is that option?04:21
Ben64in the menu04:22
holsteinMolean: its typically in the list.. maybe you are not running ubuntu, but a spin?04:22
Moleanholstein: OK fine, but please, help me, or not.04:22
Moleanholstein: Please choose one04:22
servoholstein: i notice you vacillate between realize and realise are you an expat?04:22
Moleanholstein: and if you are going to help me, please listen04:22
cfhowlett!behelpful|servo04:22
ubottuservo: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.04:22
Ben64Molean: you really are the one who needs to listen04:22
holsteinMolean: are you running a spin of ubuntu?04:22
holsteinMolean: thats my current question to you.. are you running a respin? mint maybe? or something ubuntu based?04:23
Moleanholstein: There is no list at the command prompt, and it's ubuntu04:23
Ben64Molean: because you already chose the root shell option. slow down and look at the other options04:23
servo!sorry|cfhowlett04:23
ubottucfhowlett: It's ok, I am only a bot so I cannot stay mad at you. For apologising to humans though, take a read of http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/20/on-apologies/04:23
Moleanholstein: There is a command prompt, at the command prompt, nothing else04:23
holsteinMolean: its not at the promt friend. its in the list where you choose the prompt04:23
Moleanholstein: hmm?04:24
holsteinMolean: *after* choose the kernel recovery mode *before* choose the prompt.. at the same list where the prompt mode is.. there should be graphics recovery. *but* if that is not the case, or you are having trouble finding it, just do the vesa xorg.conf, and you can get to a desktop04:24
Moleanholstein: I asked you that earlier, but you only kept linking me here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode#Booting_into_recovery_mode04:25
holsteinMolean: thats the first step..04:25
Ben64Molean: you ignored everything else that was said after that04:25
Moleanholstein: you're contradicting yourself04:25
holsteinMolean: from that list, as stated, is where you get the graphics recovery mode04:25
Ben64Molean: SLOW DOWN and listen, please04:26
dw1Molean: to uninstall drivers from a live cd you need to do a chroot. see #3-7 at http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot04:26
Jonhis all of you All Mangoirc user's04:26
Moleandw1:  You mean drivers of a hard drive when using a live?04:26
dw1Molean: yes04:26
Dvorovoihow do you run a second terminal from the command line?04:27
Ben64dw1: we don't need to go down that path04:27
dw1Molean: or just go to recovery prompt04:27
dw1k04:27
Ben64its already confusing enough :)04:27
Y2KVetCtrl-Alt-F104:27
bickyhello04:28
Locke2002Dvorovoi: Depending on what you want, you can install/use the program "screen", or what Y2KVet said04:28
Y2KVetor 'screen'04:28
Y2KVetCtrl-Alt-F1 is less confusing04:28
Dvorovoibasically I have this file that is supposed to start something. but its just got script in it04:28
Dvorovoiand im trying to make a desktop icon to run it04:28
holstein!tty04:28
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution04:28
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Right-click and create Launcher04:29
DvorovoiY2KVet: I dont have that option04:29
Y2KVetOh.04:30
Dvorovoiubuntu 14.04 on a file that is called a shell script when i look in properties04:30
Dvorovoishell script (application/x-shellscript)04:30
Y2KVetOK...do you know where it is>04:30
Dvorovoiyep04:31
Y2KVetOK...you can do 1 of 2 things:04:31
Y2KVet1. go to where it is and './scriptname' or 2. /here/it/is/scriptname04:31
Dvorovoiive got a .desktop file prepared for it. i just gotta figure out how to execute it04:31
MoleanHow do I change permissions to try the vesa driver thing?04:32
Y2KVetI'm out of my league now.04:32
holsteinMolean: no need.. you just put that file in place04:32
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Will it pick up the .desktop file when you run it?04:32
Moleanholstein: There is a need, the drivers other then flash are set to read only, so i cant change the xorg files contents04:32
MoleanI mean drives04:33
Moleannot drivers04:33
MoleanHow do I set the drives so I can write to them?04:33
dw1remount rw04:33
bickyhello i am new to ubuntu,i am using it in try mode and i am unable to access my window drives,every time i double click on drives this message shows up 'unable to access 144gb volume:Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /media/ubuntu/0210E62010E61B05: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=999,gid=999,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda4" "/media/ubuntu/0210E62010E61B05"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean fil04:33
bickye system (0, 0).04:33
bickyMetadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.04:33
bickyFailed to mount '/dev/sda4': Operation not permitted04:33
bickyThe NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown04:33
bickyWindows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume04:33
unopastebicky you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted04:33
Y2KVetdwl: better than my chmod answer.04:33
holsteinMolean: this is just to edit that file, though.. you need not adjust permissions to address what you asked.. to "try the vesa driver".. only to edit the xorg.conf file04:34
dw1Molean: http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write04:34
DvorovoiY2KVet: it says there was an error launching the application. im using the /scriptname method04:34
Y2KVetbicky: what is on /dev/sda4?04:34
cfhowlettbicky boot windows, close it down properly and then try.04:34
Moleanholstein: No idea what you just said04:34
holsteinMolean: i would want to just copy paste using a live CD.. that would be easiest in your situation04:34
DvorovoiY2KVet: to be clearer im trying to run the start-tor-browser script04:35
holsteinMolean: i just said, you *dont* need to adjust or change permissions to use the vesa driver.. but, you may find you need sudo to access xorg.conf04:35
Dvorovoiits for GNU/Linux04:35
Moleanholstein: Can't do that if its read only, can't do that if its read only!!!!04:35
dw1rage-support04:35
dw1lol04:35
MoleanYou might be a expert, but I tell you with conviction, you can't write to a read only drive!04:35
Y2KVetDvorovoi: I may just install Tor... :-)04:35
holsteinMolean: sure.. thats why i suggest doing it from a live CD. can you? if not, follow the instructions given above to mount write access04:36
bickyi have some file in dev/sda404:36
MoleanIt is a live04:36
Y2KVetDvorovoi: did you sudo apt-get it?04:36
DvorovoiY2KVet: hehe. im so new to ubuntu/linux. this is only my first week using it. SO these simple tasks are killing me.04:36
DvorovoiY2KVet: no i donloaded the .xz file from the website04:36
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holsteinMolean: you are in a live environment? using a graphical file manager to navigate to your filesystem?04:37
Y2KVetDvorovoi: OK...I'll do that.04:37
bickynot just one i am unable to access any of my internal drive,,but can access ext. hard disk04:37
Guest44132so I installed ubuntu 14.04 on a new hp 2000 notebook. They really hated windows 8. But its a little slow and the window snapping looks weird. Should I use the propertary graphics for this ati hd radeon04:38
bickybefore trying ubuntu i had shut down window04:38
Ben64bicky: read the error message and follow what it says04:38
Moleanholstein: I already told you this many many times04:39
cfhowlettbicky windows clearly thinks you did not.  reboot windows.  shut down properly.  reboot ubuntu.04:39
Ben64Molean: pastebin the output of "mount"04:39
Y2KVetDvorovoi: tor-browser-linux64-3.6.1_en-US.tar.xz?04:40
bickyok...cfhowlett..thanks..i will be back after following ur instruction..04:40
holsteinMolean: goog luck, friend!.. that vesa driver should allow you to boot to a desktop.. if you boot a live CD, you can easily navigate and mount your internal drive and put that xorg.conf in place04:41
Guest44132I don't have much time. Should I go with Proprietary graphics for Ati cards?04:41
holsteinGuest44132: you'll have to test it.04:41
DvorovoiY2KVet: yep04:41
Y2KVetDvorovoi: And then run start-tor-browser?04:42
Moleanholstein: Still struggling with making the drive read write04:42
DvorovoiY2KVet: yeah thats what im trying to do04:42
Ben64Molean: pastebin the output of "mount"04:42
Y2KVetDvorovoi: I'm with you now.04:42
DvorovoiY2KVet: on my computer it just opens the file to edit or display04:42
holsteinMolean: Ben64 is offering to help with that.. but Ben64 needs the output of the command he's asked you for a few times..04:43
MoleanBen64:  There is no output when I choose mount or dismount through file manager04:43
Ben64Molean: its a command you run in a terminal04:43
holsteinMolean: you would run "mount" in a terminal04:43
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Are you inn the tor-browser_en-US directory?04:43
DvorovoiY2KVet: yep04:43
Y2KVet./start-tor-browser and be amazed.04:44
MoleanBen64: I don't understand the instructions as given here http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write04:44
DvorovoiY2KVet: you type that in the terminal?04:44
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Yes.04:45
holsteinMolean: open a terminal, and type the word "mount".. press enter, and use a pastebin to share the output with Ben6404:45
holstein!paste | Molean04:45
ubottuMolean: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:45
rf_studio:)04:46
DvorovoiY2KVet: are you any good with .desktop icons? I can show you what i have written in pastebin04:47
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Sorry. Don't know what they are.  Ask me anything about IBM S/390, though.04:47
GI_JackI think its official, Ubuntu 14.04 is about as stable as windows 9504:48
MoleanBen64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7414137/04:48
GI_Jackgood job cannicoal04:48
Dvorovoihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7414138/04:48
Ben64GI_Jack: is there a support question anywhere in there or did you just come here to complain? because this is not the proper location for complaining04:48
Dvorovoithats my issue. ubuntu thinks i just want to edit the file04:49
Ben64Molean: they're all mounted read/write already04:49
holsteinMolean: you can try "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"04:49
servoBen64: where is the proper location for complaining?04:50
Y2KVetDvorovoi: ok... do a 'chmod +x' to the file.04:50
Y2KVetI prefer chmod 0700 file04:50
cfhowlettservo #ubuntu-offtopic04:50
Y2KVetThen nobody else can use it.04:50
MoleanBen64: when I try to save changes to xorg the system disagrees with that04:50
holsteinMolean: with sudo?04:50
Y2KVetOr chmod 0500 to make it not-writable (you don't want to mess with it once it works.)04:51
Moleanno, just opening it up04:51
holsteinMolean: what is the error message? with sudo?04:51
holsteinMolean: opening is reading.. so that should work regardless.. whats the error with sudo?04:51
GI_JackBen64, I came here to complain04:51
Y2KVetDvorovoi: On second thought, making a .desktop file executable doesn't make sense.04:51
holsteinGI_Jack: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat04:51
cfhowlettGI_Jack this is the support channel.  please take complaints to off-topic04:51
GI_JackI'd be nicer, except shuttleworth is a dick, and someone paid for shills on my fave tech sites04:52
GI_Jackall of you, fucking blow me, and gnight04:52
Moleanholstein: When I open it up normally, it asks to save a whole file over "this file already exists, do you wish to write it over" then if you click yes it says "can't open file to write"04:52
Y2KVetQuestion: Is the intention to complain grounds for kicking?04:52
cfhowlettY2KVet profanity is a channel violation04:53
Y2KVetOoo...methinks permban.04:53
rww!guidelines04:53
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines04:53
holsteinMolean: how about as sudo?04:53
DvorovoiY2KVet: oh04:53
rwwY2KVet: if you have questions about the link ubottu just said, #ubuntu-ops is probably a better venue for it ;)04:53
holsteinMolean: again, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:54
Moleanholstein: If I put "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a terminal, it goes to next line, but nothing happens04:54
rwwY2KVet: in the specific case we just saw, the problem seems to have solved itself :)04:54
Y2KVetrww: I'm here to help, really.  Just rambling.04:54
Ben64holstein: pretty sure he's using xubuntu live usb04:54
holsteinMolean: and, thats file shouldnt exist, since you ran an rm on it earlier, and stated getting a message about it not being there.. is there a file there now?04:54
holsteinBen64: is that leafpad?04:54
ripp_steakfaceanyone have a solution for a permission issue with "Sensor Viewer" after installing xfce4-sensors-plugin04:54
Ben64holstein: idk : /04:54
Moleanholstein: Yes, I can see the file04:55
holsteinMolean: please try "gksudo leafpad /etc/X11/xorg.conf"04:55
Y2KVetDvorovoi: How's it goingZ?04:55
ripp_steakfaceit won't display in the tool bar at all04:55
DvorovoiY2KVet: permission denied lol04:56
Y2KVetDvorovoi: I believe I know what you're trying to do: make a clickable icon for the Tor browser.  I tried 'Create Launcher' and got nowhere.04:56
Moleanholstein: That opened a blank pad, not the xorg file. I put the code in, and saved, xorg didnt change any04:57
DvorovoiY2KVet: yeah04:57
holsteinMolean: not sure what you mean? what didint change? and now are you determining that?04:57
Moleanholstein: Xorg.conf didnt change, I know because I opened it04:57
holsteinMolean: xorg.conf04:58
Y2KVetOK...I executed ./start-tor-browser a second time.  It came up.04:58
Moleanyes04:58
holsteinMolean: even typing Xorg there instead of xorg can break this04:58
MoleanI used lower cases04:58
DvorovoiY2KVet: it runs from the terminal at least04:58
DvorovoiY2KVet: guess ill have to dig around for the clickable thing04:58
holsteinMolean: and, im unsure why that file was there.. why was it there? you were asked to remove it, and reboot.. did you?04:58
MoleanI just used uppercase here in chat because it was the beginning of my sentence04:58
Y2KVetDvorovoi: So, create a Launcher with the complete path to start-tor-browser as the command.04:59
Moleanholstein: I told you what I did, and what it said04:59
Y2KVetDvorovoi: I'll try that right now.04:59
holsteinMolean: sure.. you told me it said there wasnt one... not you say there was one..04:59
Moleanholstein: Despite it saying it could not fine the file, I see it clear as day04:59
Moleanfind04:59
holsteinMolean: you may want to consider removing the file, and rebooting04:59
Moleanholstein: I said the command prompt screen told me it wasnt there when I tried to rm it, but I see it here05:00
holsteinMolean: you could have used a capital letter, or mis-typed05:00
Moleanholstein: I was very careful about using every single same character05:00
DvorovoiY2KVet: When I create the .desktop file i get a failed to start application area. Which is a Unity Launcher I believe.05:01
holsteinMolean: regardless, you may want to consider first removing that file.. and rebooting.. as per the original instructions05:01
Moleanrechecking many a time because there was so much text and I was getting weird messages05:01
DvorovoiDvorovoi: error not area05:01
Moleanholstein: how?05:01
holsteinMolean: however you get rid of files, friend05:01
Moleanholstein: How do I remove a file that it says isnt there?05:01
holsteinMolean: it *is* there.. and you do what ever it takes05:02
ADWHerro05:02
Moleanholstein: Come on, please don't be like this, what have I have I ever done to you for you to treat me like this?05:02
holsteinMolean: im tring to be helpful.. you need to try rebooting after removing that file05:02
cfhowlettadw not remotely funny05:02
Moleanholstein: Saying "do whatever it takes" is not even remotely helpful05:02
holsteinMolean: try sudo rm and use tab to auto complete, so you are sure you are getting the file.. use the file manager *carefully* as root. literally whatever it takes to get rid of it05:03
holsteinMolean: i was referring to, starting with one option, and proceeding til the file is gone05:03
MoleanThink if your math teacher was like that "How do I do this problem? This doesn't seem to carry right" You do whatever it takes..."05:03
holsteinMolean: please try one of the above options05:04
holsteinMolean: sudo rm using tab to autocomplete the path05:04
Dvorovoidoes Ubuntu hide any file extensions like windows does?05:04
Moleanholstein: Is autocomplete what you mean by "use the file manager"?05:04
holsteinMolean: did it work? if not, i will suggest another.. and another.. til, either i have to leave, or the file is gone..05:04
holsteinMolean: no.. autocomplete is what i mean by using tab05:04
holstein!tab05:05
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:05
Moleanholstein: Well then, telling me to use file manager carefully isn't telling me anything05:05
holsteinMolean: using the filemanager is the 2nd option05:05
Moleanand I have tried to delete this file multiple times, carefully typing it out each time05:05
holsteinMolean: ok.. please try again using the tab auto complete.. and sudo05:05
Moleanholstein: Within a terminal within live?05:06
holsteinMolean: *either*.. literally which ever works for you, friend.. just make the file go away05:06
holsteinMolean: the live environment should be fine05:06
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Any luck?05:06
Dvorovoinot yet05:07
holsteinMolean: you can drag the file over from the commandline to the terminal, and see if the path autocompletes05:07
Moleanholstein: I just did that, file still there, no message given05:08
holsteinMolean: please refresh the method by which you are determing if the file is still there05:08
cfhowlettMolean screenshots would be helpful here ...05:08
Moleanholstein: You mean repeat how I know its still there? I see it graphically with file manager05:09
Y2KVetDvorovoi: I still can't get it to work, either.05:09
Moleanholstein: I can even open it and see its contents05:09
holsteinMolean: sure.. so, close that filemanager, and reopen and confirm again05:09
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Y2KVetDvorovoi: It gives 'file not found.' Oftentimes this is not the executed file, but one that it needs to run.05:09
holsteinMolean: are you sure you are looking at the one on the hard drive? and not something in the system? or on another installation?05:09
Y2KVetYou'd never guess how I found that out. :-)05:10
Moleanholstein: Still there05:10
holsteinMolean: you need to get rid of that file.. you'll have to confirm the path, and make sure its out of the way05:11
Y2KVetDvorovoi: That message can be misleading.  The file's there, you can see it, but the 'file not found' refers to another file.  Cute.05:11
holsteinMolean: what killed your graphics hardware? was it something electrical that could be effecting more of your hardware?05:11
Moleanholstein: How do I confirm the path, and whatever else you said?05:12
Y2KVetI hope there's someone here who can answer the question. We'd both learn something.05:12
Moleanholstein: I don't have a clue what killed it, one second its fine, next second its deader then a tombstone. But the rest of the systems running fine05:12
holsteinMolean: i wish you well.. i must go.. you need to make sure your hard drive is functioning properly and remove that file after you confirm your sytem is OK05:12
Moleanholstein: You aren't telling me anything05:13
holsteinMolean: yeah?05:13
Moleanholstein: Have you run out of suggestions then?05:13
holsteinMolean: something bad happend to your hardware.. your hard drive could have been effected. if you have not confirmed and tested that, you may want to05:13
holsteinMolean: you are either not accessing the proper xorg file, or you are experiencing breakage somewhere05:14
Moleanholstein: Well you tell me some way of testing it and I may do that05:14
Moleanholstein: But all signs point to a software issue05:14
holsteinMolean: gsmartcontrol from a live CD05:14
holsteinMolean: you have had a hardware failure already...05:15
holsteinMolean: if you say, you are removing files from a drive, and they are just randomly showing back up, i say, test that drive05:15
Moleanholstein: That card is not in my system, so couldn't possibly be currently causing troubles with files05:15
bluezoneWhat is 'systemd' It's listed as a dependancy here: https://github.com/thestinger/playpen05:16
holsteinMolean: sure.. what im suggesting is, an electrical problem which *did* damage the graphics could have damaged more.. plausible.. and could account for *all* your issues05:16
Moleanholstein: I didn't say I removed the file, I said the command to remove it from command prompt said it never existed05:16
Moleanand commands in terminal regarding this file don't seem to do anything05:16
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holsteinMolean: sure.. and its there.. so, thats where we are.. the file is there, and you are either incorrectly removing it, or its not removable due to some issue05:17
rwwbluezone: an init system. the pieces of it you'd need for that aren't in Ubuntu's repositories05:18
* bluezone cries05:18
DvorovoiY2KVet: got it05:19
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Got it.05:19
DvorovoiY2KVet: lol05:19
Y2KVetHow?05:19
Moleanholstein:  when I put etc\x11 as my path direction, how does it know what drive to look in?05:19
Y2KVetI wrote a 3-line bash script.05:19
DvorovoiY2KVet: both the .desktop icon and the script have to have chmod -x05:19
Y2KVetDvorovoi: -?05:20
Moleanholstein: Maybe it's looking in a different partition for the file in question?05:20
bluezonethis is why everyone should use maven05:20
DvorovoiY2KVet: i had set chmod -x on the .desktop icon. which is what makes em clicky.05:20
DvorovoiDvorovoi: but not the acutal script05:20
Moleanthen again, it's autocompleting the path05:21
Y2KVetHow does .desktop work?05:21
DvorovoiY2KVet: its a Unity Launcher file. looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7414138/05:22
holsteinMolean: the slash direction is *very* important05:22
DvorovoiY2KVet: once you set chmod -x it becomes double clickable.05:22
holsteinMolean: i have asked that you confirm the path.. and look at other drives or partitions05:22
rf_studiowhere is upper case letters when you type?05:23
holsteinMolean: by autocompleteting the path, we just know that you are referring to an actual file, and not typo-ing05:23
DvorovoiY2KVet: and as far as i have found the terminal=true is optional only if you want the terminal to stay open for error messages etc05:24
DvorovoiY2KVet: normally i set it to false05:24
rf_studioWhere are Upper case letters when you type in chat?05:24
rf_studio:-[05:24
DvorovoiY2KVet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles is the link i used to learn how to make em05:26
Moleanholstein: But how come when I tell it to remove the file, it doesnt? How could a hard drive problem cause that?05:26
dhavalHello everyone.05:27
dhavalI've problem with Chrome notification. They are displayed all grayed all the time.05:27
Moleanholstein: Could gssmart program be installed on my live usb drive and run off it, with live?05:27
FuuqUmiistare there any USB headset brands what work on Ubuntu?05:28
FuuqUmiistor do all headsets with USB sound cards only work on Windows?05:28
cfhowlettuuqUmiist several05:28
FuuqUmiistcfhowlett like which ones05:28
Y2KVetDvorovoi: I am SO there! :-)05:29
cfhowlettFuuqUmiist my logitech skype headset worked out of the box05:29
FuuqUmiistcfhowlett which model05:29
cfhowlettFuuqUmiist h55505:30
Moleancfhowlett: Could gssmart install on and cohabitate with live usb?05:31
cfhowlettMolean live USB?  no.  installed to a persistence USB?  sure05:31
Y2KVetDvorovoi: I actually run LinuxMint, with the Xfce interface.  Is this mutually exclusive with Unity?05:31
cfhowlett!mint|Y2KVet05:32
ubottuY2KVet: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org05:32
DvorovoiY2KVet: maybe. type unity in terminal05:32
Moleancfhowlett: So it has to be the only thing on the USB? So if I am running off live usb with one usb, could I install this gsmart onto another usb?05:32
cfhowlett!persistence|Molean05:33
ubottuMolean: To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence05:33
Y2KVetDvorovoi: I can sudo apt-get install it, but isn't it huge?05:33
cfhowlettMolean you can install ubuntu to a USB.  apps installed to the USB would then be available.05:33
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Duh.  I can also sudo-apt remove it, too.05:33
Moleancfhowlett: I don't see any bearing at all with that link to what i asked05:33
DvorovoiY2KVet: as far as ive learned so far. its the heart and soul of my user interface experience05:34
majodtheres new firefox beta in their ppa, but when i do apt-get upgrade it doesnt allow me to upgrade...also synaptic only shows version 29 as the last one :/ why is that? https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next05:34
Y2KVetDvorovoi: 19Mb. Not too bad.05:34
Moleancfhowlett: You mean apps installed on ubunto, on the usb drive? But I thought you said gsmart couldn't do that05:35
Y2KVetmajod: I use Aurora.05:35
majodY2KVet: ok but that doesnt help me :)05:35
cfhowlettMolean 1.  you can install ubuntu to a USB.  2. you can then install apps to that ubuntu USB.05:35
Moleancfhowlett: Is GS smart something installed onto ubuntu etc, or is it something that stands alone as a bootable?05:36
Beldarmajod, Have you run an update lately?05:36
majodBeldar: you mean...apt-get update? or just software update?05:36
cfhowlettMolean if gs smart is an actual OS, yes it's bootable.  if not, you have to install it to an OS05:37
Beldarmajod, an apt-get is what I mean, but your mixing up update and upgrade with that question.05:37
Moleancfhowlett:  Which is it?05:38
majodBeldar: i did apt-get update05:38
Beldarmajod, In other words before you upgrade, you update05:38
Beldarcool05:38
cfhowlettMolean I've no idea as I've never used gs smart05:38
Beldarmajod, What release are you running?05:38
majodBeldar: trusty05:39
Moleancfhowlett: Do you think there is something wrong with my hard drive that I even need something like this gssmart? Or might you be able to help me with this stubborn file?05:39
Beldarmajod, Says  there is a trusty build 7 hrs ago. I have no idea the snyc time worldwide with all the servers.05:40
cfhowlettMolean I've only partially tracked your discussion with Holstein.  I can't suggest anything beyond what he offered.  Eliminating hardware failure is a reasonable troubleshooting step.05:40
majodBeldar: ok I think I solved....sources are updated, but packages are not built yet05:40
Y2KVetDvorovoi:05:40
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Had to reboot.05:41
Moleancfhowlett: Lets assume I run the program and it says nothing is wrong, I still am left with nothing to do to fix this05:41
Y2KVetBut it looks interesting.05:41
majodBeldar: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next/+build/598764205:41
cfhowlettMolean install to a persistent USB and boot from that.05:42
mrblah-blah.05:42
Y2KVetI'm using the Lodge computer.  I assume the next secretary will need a simple Windows-like interface.05:42
Moleancfhowlett: I am running off a persistant live USB  now05:43
Beldarmajod, same on a link from page yeah, https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next/+packages05:43
Moleancfhowlett: Again though, I got these files I cant change, its like they are read only, but I am told they are not05:43
cfhowlettMolean I doubt it.  the Boot USB and persistent install USB  are different creatures.05:43
Moleancfhowlett: persistent means you can install stuff and change stuff on it, and have it keep track of the change, right?05:44
JCM83I'm looking for a version of xkill that I can click repeatedly with. Ideally like a flag I could add to the xkill command in terminal. Anyone know what I'm looking for?05:44
cfhowlettMolean yep.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent05:44
Y2KVetDvorovoi: I plan to have LibreOffice for docs and spreadsheets.  But I see a proliferation of desktop icons unless I can put the _directory_ on the desktop.05:45
cfhowlettMolean and the more up to date: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/05:45
Moleancfhowlett: Well I understand that as just another configuration of a live, well anyway, that's what I have, a Live usb persistent drive05:45
Y2KVetDvorovoi: Which IRC client do you use?  I use irssi.05:45
Moleancfhowlett: That is what I am using at this very moment05:45
cfhowlettMolean then install gs control is a trivial matter.05:46
cfhowlett*gs smart*05:46
Moleancfhowlett: It's also a irrelvent matter, gscontrol isn't going to fix a file system, right? It just tests the hardware, right?05:46
DvorovoiY2KVet: I tried messaging you directly.05:46
cfhowlettMolean as stated ... never used it.  but in the time we've had this discussion, you could have obtained it and tested your hardware so ...05:47
Moleancfhowlett: And still be where I am now05:47
Moleancfhowlett: Would you please help me figure out what is going on, and forget this gs smart which you say yourself you know nothing about anyway...05:48
cfhowlettMolean I also advised you that I can't add anything to Holstein's suggestions05:48
fishbrainanyone have any info about netflix-desktop package. i installed it and after it worked fine but won't start the second time anymore. here's the error stream using --showdebug http://paste.ubuntu.com/7414284/05:48
Moleanfishbrain, theres a way to get netflix on ubuntu? Please link me, I looked really hard for that for some time05:49
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fishbrainMolean http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/ehoover_compholio_netflix/trusty/main/base/netflix-desktop05:50
Moleanthanks05:51
Dvorovoiis there a way to make ubuntu 14.04 require a usb stick with some key on it to authenticate? In conjunction with the usualy authentication measure05:52
MoleanIs there someone on who can help me with this files I cant alter issue?05:52
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Moleancfhowlett: And permissions through file manager says its read only05:53
Guest20943can i have some help? i want to install some things but dont know how05:54
cfhowlettDvorovoi pretty sure you can encrypt it05:54
cfhowlettGuest20943 install through software center is the preferred method05:54
Moleanfishbrain: Aside from your current problem, has this netflix on ubuntu thing been working? Heard from others whether they have gotten anywhere with it?05:57
mrblah-blahcan pinch zoom be made to work with out holding ctrl05:58
muculusis there any way in ubuntu that I can find out is my cpu support sandy bridge or ivy bridge?05:59
jason_hi, where can i find the package maintainer chat?06:01
jason_package maintainer chat anyone?06:02
riteshanyone here ?06:02
jason_yes06:02
riteshi want to join logstash channel06:03
riteshbut i am not able to connect to it06:03
riteshsorry its ##logstash06:03
riteshoop06:03
riteshoops06:03
ritesh#logstash06:03
riteshjason can you please help ?06:03
jason_im here to give the python3 package maintainer a stiff talking to06:03
jason_hi!06:03
MoleanI told the system to mount sda1, it said "can't find sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" Why would it look there for sda1?06:03
jason_erm.. im using trusty06:03
jason_and 3.4 is a pile of brocken biscuits06:04
jason_the "open" builtin function isnt working06:04
jason_im talking about python :D06:05
jason_please include python3.3 and libs in the trusty repo /..06:06
jason_thanks :D06:06
jason_molean.. re you debootstrping?06:06
jason_also please note, that fstab is now fstab.d06:07
ZeebsGuys anyway to check if my computer can run ubuntu?06:08
jason_which means it sorta reads all files in that folder as one file..06:08
Moleanjason I dont know what that means, I am just trying to mount drives properly to my persistent live usb drive so I can write to them and fix another problem (hopefully)06:08
jason_thts what system d does06:08
fishbrainMolean it's been working fine for me06:08
Moleanjason how do you make a mount point?06:08
jason_ok,06:08
jason_got to: /etc/fstab.d/06:09
jason_and create a file called main06:09
muculusis there any way in ubuntu that I can find out is my cpu support sandy bridge or ivy bridge?06:09
jason_write an fstab in there06:09
Moleanyou mean on the usb flash drive?06:09
Moleanjason?06:10
jason_tbh, this os goes back to the pentium 4 days..06:10
jason_you should be fine06:10
jason_if in doubt, use i38606:10
Ben64Molean: what are you trying to do now?06:10
jason_..oh yes on the flash drive06:10
MoleanBen64:  Trying to make a mount point to mount to06:10
Ben64Molean: why? last i checked you already had all your drives mounted06:11
MoleanBen64:  I forget much of what little I use to know about mounting06:11
jason_ok, mol06:11
jason_try this06:11
jason_sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt06:11
Moleanben64 they arent, somethings scrambled, they arent really properly mounted, and the drives are read only06:11
Ben64Molean: they are not read only, you need sudo to have write access06:11
YeluMolean, according to your "mount" pastebin your sda1 is already in rw (read/write) state06:11
jason_let me guess06:11
jason_ntfs-3g?06:12
MoleanYelu: that is wrong06:12
bickythanku ben64 and cfhowlett.....it worked06:12
Ben64Molean: no it is not wrong. rw means read/write06:12
Moleanno, ext 406:12
YeluMolean, your pastebin => see http://paste.ubuntu.com/7414137/06:12
Moleanben64 but the drives are not read write06:13
Moleandoesnt matter, they are not read write06:13
Ben64but they are, you need root permissions to be able to write06:13
jason_ok, your fstab must be saying to mount that fs as read only? (its stupid early o clock and i way below my coffee quota)06:13
Moleanwhen I click anything in the drives, in properties, it specifically says read only and it doesnt allow me to write to them06:13
Ben64jason_: nope, they're rw06:13
Ben64Molean: because you're not using sudo06:14
jason_ah!06:14
Ben64Molean: how many times do you need to be told this?06:14
jason_permsions||!06:14
jason_sudo su06:14
Ben64no06:14
jason_and try and touch a file then06:14
Ben64sudo su is a bad idea06:14
jason_or nano modify one06:14
Ben64don't do that, it can cause more problems06:14
Moleanben64 there is a way to open up permissions for files so you dont have to sudo them every time, that isnt read write mode. I know because I have done it before06:14
jason_ok, to double check, please check who the owner is of those files using yor file browser06:15
Moleanroot06:15
jason_and your not using root :D06:15
raj12lnmhi all.06:15
Moleanso how do I get into root mode06:15
jason_sudo su..06:15
jason_but please... BE VERY CARFULL06:15
Ben64jason_: don't suggest that06:15
Moleanno, for the whole thing06:15
Ben64Molean: where is the xorg.conf file? which partition?06:16
raj12lnmI wish to install brlcad 24.0v. via apt-get .06:16
jason_or go to user properties, and add yourself as able to use disks06:16
raj12lnmBut only brlcad v22.0 is available06:16
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MoleanBen64: Doesn't matter if its read only06:16
Ben64Molean: will you listen? it is NOT read only06:16
MoleanBen64:  Yes, it is06:17
raj12lnmHow can I upload the deb file to ubuntu package manager.06:17
raj12lnm?06:17
Ben64Molean: you are not root, therefore you do not have permission. that does not mean it is read only.06:17
jason_+1 Ben06:17
aStArIaMHi :)06:17
Ben64Molean: you've been at this for many hours and fighting help every step of the way.06:18
raj12lnmHi. all. How can I upload/donate/update the deb file in ubuntu package repository ?06:18
MoleanBen64:  When you install ubuntu, aside from ~, you can read and write as you wish, you dont need to sudo everything to change them. You can set that up with persistent usb live drive too06:18
Ben64Molean: you do in fact need sudo to change things06:18
MoleanBen64:  I know this for a fact, for you to tell me otherwise is just misleading me, rather then helping me, I know because i have set this up before06:18
jason_raj... congrats on your new product / lib ..  try and search for a package maintainer06:18
jason_from canonical or debian06:19
YeluMolean, you are looking in file manager as *NOT* root and rreing to change/delete Xorg.conf on the desktop - right?06:19
MoleanSince when have you needed to sudo to save a movie to videos? You dont, you just save it, thats because its got read write permission06:19
Ben64xorg.conf is hardly your own video folder06:19
YeluMolean, so you just van'T do what yiu want ti di.06:19
Moleanhuh?06:20
raj12lnmjason_ : Thanks for the reply. But can i update a package of someone's else ?06:20
MoleanHow do I set mount points?06:20
YeluMolean, Just open a Terminal with Ctrl ALt A and type "sudo -i" => RHEN you are root06:20
jason_raj: you need to contact one of them.. there should be a bug report thing somewhere..06:20
YeluTHEN*06:20
jason_which package btw?#06:20
raj12lnmjason_ : for instance brlcad (an opensrc solid modelling tool) but they didnt update  the deb package for there v24.006:20
jason_ahh!06:21
Moleanjason this live usb is 12.10 xubuntu06:21
jason_raj: theres usually some latency between debian uploading to ubuntu packages..06:21
Ben64raj12lnm: brlcad isn't even in the ubuntu repositories06:21
raj12lnmjason_  : its been a year06:21
jason_raj: how long have you been waitin06:21
jason_hmmm..  ok..06:22
jason_is there a ppa?06:22
raj12lnmjason_ ,Ben64 : yes http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/09/install-brl-cad-7220-from-ppa-on-ubuntu.html06:22
YeluMolean, in that terminal with being root delete your xconf.org file and type "reboot" (this is according to holstein's suggestions)06:22
Ben64raj12lnm: ppa is not an official repository, you'd have to contact the maintainer of that ppa06:23
raj12lnmjason_ my tool depends upon brl-cad library. And I wish to set-up at TRAVIS CI for this06:23
thomedyhello... my dvd player only recognizes dvd's sometimes... kinda when it wants06:23
thomedyvlc is working06:23
jason_ok.. ill point you to the place to file a "please add this" report06:23
raj12lnmwhich requires installation of package via apt-get06:23
thomedybut my dvd drive doesn't show up when i put something in it06:23
YeluMolean, I meant xorg.conf06:24
YeluMolean, it's just soo easy - dead simple ...06:24
MoleanYelu ok, maybe, but there is a way to mount it properly so its read write06:24
Ben64Molean: it is read/write, for like the 1000th time, you need to be root06:24
MoleanYelu I don't remember how to do it though06:25
raj12lnmBen64 : Thanks. Can I put the deb in any other ppa repo ? is there a free ppa repository >06:25
raj12lnmBen64 : How do I setup to put Brlcad on offical ubuntu repository ?06:25
Ben64raj12lnm: you can start  your own ppa, but i'm pretty sure that is not what you want to do06:25
raj12lnmBen64 : exactly! Any available ppa will do the trick for me.06:26
YeluMolean, files in your home directory may read-/writeable for your current user (which isn't root), but xorg.conf sits in a place where you (as non-root user) have NO write access06:26
MoleanBen64:  If linux required root to make a change to any file,  it would be way too cumbersome and it would be a security risk too06:26
jason_raj:06:26
raj12lnmjason_ : ok I will wait for thepointer.06:26
jason_raj: i got your link ..06:26
jason_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages06:26
Ben64Molean: linux does require root for changes to system files, it works great and is secure06:26
Moleanyelu, not only files in home are read write06:26
Ben64Molean: you can keep saying that, but you are simply incorrect06:27
Moleanben64 for file systems, but thats not what I am trying to do, and that is because that area is read only06:27
Ben64Molean: you need to be root06:27
MoleanHow do you make a mount point?06:27
YeluMolean, you told us above /the file is having "root" "root" user and group. - Right?06:27
Ben64Molean: you need to be root06:27
MoleanHow do you make a mount point?06:28
Ben64Molean: you need to be root06:28
raj12lnmBen64 : What are the available ppa ?06:28
Ben64raj12lnm: i'm not sure, you'd have to google and see if a newer version is available in one somewhere06:28
YeluMolean, sorry friend, but I'm out now.06:28
raj12lnmBen64 : newer version of Brlcad is not avaialble !06:28
raj12lnmBen64 : But I have the deb file  available.06:29
Ben64raj12lnm: then install that? but we can't support you with it06:29
raj12lnmBen64 I just wish to put it in some repository. so that i can make a Countinous Integration service to use it.06:29
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Guest90926I need help, anybody know anything about bluetooth?06:30
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup Guest9092606:31
abhvymhow can i copy two texts, and while pasting them i can select which one to paste? need to replace 7000 cells in spreadsheet manually. any such thin in linux?06:32
thomedyhi i was reading  the instructions in ubuntu and it would not make sense to set the region code for me because there is no disk even showing up06:32
MoleanBen64:  also when I tell it to umount sda1 it says "can't find ubuntu in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"06:32
thomedyand from what i can tell when the disk shows up it should be fine but it only shows up when it wants06:32
Ben64Molean: ok, nobody said to umount06:33
servowhere do you go after you get banned from #ubuntu-offtopic?06:33
abhvymservo, #ubuntu-ops06:34
rwwservo: also, you didn't get banned, so...06:34
ryaxnbservo, hi06:34
MoleanBen64:  the point is, that it isnt properly mounted, so please help me properly mount it!06:35
Ben64Molean: your partitions are already mounted read/write06:36
abhvymwhich is the clripboard manager which allows me to copy two text at a time and i can select which one to paste while pasting?06:36
Guest90926reading the page on bluetooth headphones, but I already paired them but they won't connect for audio sinck06:36
MoleanBen64: Get off of it, are you going to help me or not?06:37
Ben64Molean: not if you refuse to accept facts06:37
thomedysorry.... i tried restarting to see if it would help06:38
thomedynope... so im at a loss06:38
MoleanBen64:  Your "facts" is wrong, and your so blindly trying to proclaim yourself right that you have long since stopped trying to help me06:38
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thomedyplease help06:39
Moleanben64 heres a thought, someone asks you how to make a mount point, you explain how to make a mount point06:39
Moleanif you really want to help them06:39
Ben64Molean: by your own pastebin, your partitions are mounted read/write. you NEED ROOT IN ORDER TO MODIFY SYSTEM FILES. I don't know why you think otherwise, but you are wrong. This is why you've been here for 10 hours. Listen to the help and accept it, or format your computer and toss it in the closest incinerator.06:39
[lutchy]rww, I am annoying you here06:40
raj12lnmBen64 ?06:40
MoleanBen64: Instead of helping me, your just trying to make yourself seem better at my expense06:40
Ben64Molean: no, i'm desperately trying to get you to use root so you can finally edit xorg.conf06:41
canishow to update 12.04LTS to 14.04 LTS06:41
MoleanBen64:  News flash, that was done ages ago, multiple times, didnt work06:41
Moleanthats becuase the FKn drive isnt properly mounted!06:41
Ben64Molean: no, you've been too busy arguing and doing the wrong things06:41
thomedythere is a whole lot of love in this room isn't there06:42
FlannelMolean, Ben64: Lets just move on.  Obviously you two can't help/be helped/whatever each other right now.  Someone else likely can help/needs help.06:42
* delerium_ hugs thomedy06:42
canishow to update06:42
MoleanBen64: Oh so your saying using sudo isn't root, genius06:42
canis??06:42
thomedyhey delerium_ you wouldnt by any chance know to get my dvd player to show up would you06:43
canishow to update 12.04LTS to 14.04LTS??06:43
Trillionairethomedy - lol06:43
thomedyokay canis i might be able to help you with taht or at least get you close06:43
Ben64Molean: whatever you were typing in, you didn't get to the right file, which is why i asked you the location of the xorg.conf, but you refused to answer that as well06:43
thomedysudo apt-get update06:43
delerium_thomedy: Nha, sorry... did not use Linux on desktop very much06:43
thomedythen lets see sudo update-manager -d06:43
canisokay06:43
thomedyi think its something like that06:43
thomedyi might be wrong06:43
thomedytheres a link06:43
thomedyyou can google though06:44
MoleanBen64: autocomplete confirmed it was the right file06:44
caniswhat do first thing do i  have to do?06:44
YeluMolean, just a suggestion:  1. open a terminal 2. type "sudo su -" and your password 3. type "rm -i /your path/to/xorg.conf" 4. type "ls -l  /your path/to/xorg.conf" (do it "undercover" if you wish) ... ;)06:44
thomedyhonestly for me you just have to google because i dont remember but the google machine will get you there and i dont remember the link06:44
MoleanYelu:  Step 5, get nothing done because the file isnt properly mounted and nothing happened06:45
MoleanI mean the drives aren't06:46
Ben64Molean: then try it and pastebin the results. prove me wrong06:47
YeluMolean, okay "I want to believe". - So give us the screenshot of that terminal session with your 4 to 5 steps - then I want to believe ...06:47
FiremanEdcanis: It's best to wait to update to 14.04 when the first point update (14.04.1) comes out in July.  Then you can do it through update manager.06:47
[lutchy]Hmm06:47
Abhishek_What would the updates in 14.04.1?06:48
Wug[lutchy]: this is a rigidly on-topic channel, side chatter is not generally permitted.  If you cloud the channel with off topic chatter, you will probably be removed.06:48
cfhowlettYelu I'm guessing that's the same screenshot I requested 30 minutes ago ...06:48
caniswhen will it release?06:48
Yelucfhowlett, you win06:48
[lutchy]I guess they removed it06:49
[lutchy]I think I have complained before about other OPs protecting other OPs but it's not a Freenode issue06:49
FiremanEdcanis: if you can't wait, and at your own risk you can follow the information on http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-0406:49
rww[lutchy]: it's also not an Ubuntu issue, so take it elsewhere06:49
[lutchy]oops06:50
Flannel[lutchy]: This is a technical support channel, please keep things on-topic, thanks.06:50
[lutchy]I thought I was on Freenode06:50
[lutchy]O well06:50
[lutchy]Sorry guys.. wrong channel06:50
[lutchy]I do plan to Ubuntu Server for a few items and I do get some good support :)06:50
abhvymwhich is the clripboard manager which allows me to copy two text at a time and i can select which one to paste while pasting?06:51
thomedyhello.. im sorry to harp but im really at a loss here06:52
thomedyi cant find anything06:52
thomedy i dont want to manually mount it that seems like i the wrong thing to do06:52
Ben64thomedy: what are you trying to do?06:52
thomedyi just dropped 13 for 14 and it was a good idea but i have always had a hard time getting dvd's to go in and immediately recognize the media in the drive06:53
thomedyit just kinda spins06:53
thomedyand then ignores me06:53
thomedyi have 3 kids... i dont need that from my laptop06:53
Abhishek_Hi, wanted to know which option I would have to unselect to remove the paid items and magazines from the Software center in 14.04 LTS, it's a distraction for me.06:54
thomedyi was reading what to do... it seems all the proper libraries are installed06:54
thomedyand then i read that i should install regionset06:54
Ben64thomedy: ok, put a dvd in, if one is already in then take it out and put it back in, wait a minute, then pastebin the last... 20 or so lines of "dmesg"06:54
someHumanHow do I get back to the previous prompt in terminal?06:54
someHumanIt's kind of confusing to scroll up just to get back to the previous prompt.06:54
abhvymAbhishek_, maybe try removing partner repo? but that will also remove skype. opera etc.06:54
thomedyokay let me paste bin dmesg right now because i have definately tried multiple "put the dvd in" s06:54
thomedyone sec06:54
helmut_hi06:55
Abhishek_yep, I don't want to remove that actually . It's kinda sad if there isn/t another way06:55
murosaii have two sound cards and now the sound is coming off from the wrong one, usually i solve this problem by creating .asoundrc but this time it doesn't seem to be working? :/06:55
abhvymAbhishek_, use lubunt software center or apper. the kde software center. both may not list it.06:55
Ben64Abhishek_: you could use synaptic instead06:55
someHumanHello?06:56
abhvymsomeHuman, defind "previous prompt"06:56
Abhishek_Ben64: I do use synaptic now, but I kinda liked the software center when it wasn't littered back in 10.10 or something06:56
someHumanabhvym: The ones that are on the left that waits for you to input something in the terminal.06:56
abhvymsomeHuman, ctrl c ctrl z or exit or alt f4 and restart terminal?06:57
thomedyokay so i dmesg > page do you want the top or the bottom06:57
abhvymAbhishek_, use lubunt software center or apper. the kde software center. both may not list it.06:58
Ben64thomedy: the bottom is newer, so probably that06:58
adsfjust upgraded from 12->13 and seem to get loads of errors like "READ FPDMA QUEUED" as well as no windows manager starting in kernel 3.1106:58
thomedyand how much of it do you want to see because when i more it it kind of seems giberishy06:58
adsfif i revert back to 3.8 it loads, any thoughts?06:58
thomedybut i havent done to much real code in a while06:58
adsfthe no windows manager seems it could be an nvidia issue, no idea on the hdd errors06:58
someHumanabhvym: Gonna send you a link.07:00
someHumanabhvym: http://imgur.com/7RzwnuU07:00
abhvymsomeHuman, thin is current situation. "where" do you want to go back? "What" is that?07:01
caniswill my file data lost when i update07:01
abhvymcanis, no harm in files in /home07:01
thomedyhttp://pastebin.com/Aw6T8PaU07:02
thomedyi hope that helps... its all giberishy to me07:02
canishow long does it take to upgrade07:02
abhvymcanis, depends on your network speed.07:02
MoleanHow do i make a mount point?07:03
caniscan u check my network speed?07:03
adsfMolean: a dir to mount to?07:03
thomedyMolean... why dont you google it07:03
adsfMolean: mkdir /mnt/bla07:03
Flannelthomedy: That's not appropriate for this channel, thanks.07:03
Moleanadsf yes07:03
abhvymcanis, you can do it yourself.07:03
Moleanah thanks mkdir thats what I was looking for, I have been searching for it07:04
thomedyokay.. im sorry... well.. im just here for help on my dvd... so ill shut up07:04
adsfMolean: :)07:04
MoleanHow do I make mount points or where do I mount a drive so it appears in the main list in file manager?07:05
someHumanabhvym: That is the prompt I was talking about.07:05
abhvymMolean, you can mount it anywher. after that add that mount point folder to "favorites" or something of that file browser07:05
abhvymsomeHuman, i dont know what you really need.07:06
someHumanabhvym: Ok let me tell you like this.07:06
Moleanabhvym how do I make it so its under the main list in file manager though?07:06
abhvymMolean, you can mount it anywher. after that add that mount point folder to "favorites" or something of that file browser07:07
someHumanFor example, I just entered something now then it prints what I need to see say `ls`. After that, I get a new user prompt. What I want is a shortcut probably a keyboard shortcut to go back to the previous user prompt.07:07
abhvymsomeHuman, cd -07:07
FlannelsomeHuman: what do you mean by "previous"?  You literally mean to scroll up?  Or just the contents of the stuff you typed? or what?07:07
someHumanFlannel: Just to scroll up.07:08
abhvymsomeHuman, shift pgup07:08
FlannelsomeHuman: I'm not aware of that functionality existing anywhere07:08
someHumanFlannel: Somebody's got to write that ;)07:08
abhvymsomeHuman, shift pgup07:08
someHumanHey, I found a feature! ;)07:08
someHumanabhvym: Didn't work.07:09
someHumanShould post this in the forums, well it07:09
someHumanwell it07:09
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FlannelsomeHuman: What would the goal be?  What are you hoping to accomplish?  Just to see the prompt?  Or to see the first bit of the output? or what?07:09
someHumanwell it's really annoying to scroll up through a lot of text. really*07:09
FlannelsomeHuman: Sure, but why do you need to scroll up?  What's back there?07:09
someHumanFlannel: To see the first bit of data and to see the history of what I did in terminal.07:10
Moleanso I type mount drop in drive location, then type in new location?07:10
thomedyokay... did anyone see my paste bin...07:10
MoleanHow do I mount the drive I want to the directory I made?07:10
someHumanNo, I mean just to scroll up.07:10
thomedycuz its all giberish to me07:10
owhsomeHuman: My terminal comes with a scroll-bar, does yours not?07:10
someHumanI know how to see previous commands entered.07:10
FlannelsomeHuman: So, you can view the history of what you typed using the up arrow.  To see the first bit of the data, you can pipe the output of your command to a pager, such as "less", which will allow you to scroll around within the output07:10
abhvymMolean, mount /dev/sdb /mnt/newdir07:10
MoleanI dont see a pastebin07:11
someHumanowh: It does, I just really want to go back to the part of my previous user prompt.07:11
Ben64someHuman: press up on the keyboard?07:11
abhvymsomeHuman, whats your first language?07:11
someHumanTagalog07:11
abhvymO.o07:11
teaearlgraycoldSo I've just used clonezilla to migrate from a 300GB to a 2TB HDD. Now I need to expand my ext4 partition, but I have the swap partition in the way. Can I move the swap partition? Maybe use a swap file instead?07:11
someHumanThat's the Philippines' language.07:12
Ben64teaearlgraycold: you can do either of those, or simply delete it and create it elsewhere07:12
Moleanabhvym: are the "/mnt" and "/dev" necessary parts of the command or just examples of location?07:12
WilliamTellMolean: those are just examples07:12
teaearlgraycoldBen64, will GParted let me move the partition?07:13
teaearlgraycoldI have it open right now07:13
abhvymsomeHuman, you may want to try jont in #ubuntu-ph and explain what do you want in your local languages to the people there. they may best help you.07:13
abhvymMolean, just an example07:13
Moleanwhat is the "dev" a example of?07:13
Ben64teaearlgraycold: possibly. but why not delete and recreate? theres nothing in a swap partition07:13
someHumanabhvym: Ok, thanks!07:13
abhvymMolean, source07:13
Moleanthe directory it is currently mounted to?07:14
WilliamTellMolean: where you're mounting from, like /dev/sda107:14
teaearlgraycoldBen64, just not sure how to recreate the swap one. It's inside of /dev/sda2 as /dev/sda5. I'm unfamiliar with linux FS structure and GParted. I can make a bunch of changes before commiting, right?07:14
Moleanthey are almost always dev/?07:14
owhteaearlgraycold: That is correct.07:14
Ben64teaearlgraycold: ooh, can you post a screenshot?07:14
abhvymMolean, you cd pen driver external hdds are always under /dev07:15
teaearlgraycoldBen64, yeah I'll try07:15
Moleanteaearlgraycold: geparted doesn't make any changes till you tell it to07:15
teaearlgraycoldCool07:16
Moleana specific command to implement all changes set up to that point07:16
MoleanWill the current directory path for changing mounting points work? The one you get from drop and drag?07:17
teaearlgraycoldThe GParted web browse won't let me use imgur to upload07:17
abhvym"gparted web browser" ? teaearlgraycold whats that?07:18
WilliamTellMolean: I'm not sure what you mean by that?07:18
teaearlgraycoldThe GParted live CD has a web browser built in07:18
teaearlgraycoldAnd a screenshot tool07:18
teaearlgraycoldIt's called NetSurf07:18
servoweb browser that comes with gparted07:19
teaearlgraycoldBut it seems like javascript won't work07:19
demozI was wondering.. Is there a way to send email from TUI or bash script without installing email server ? For example to set pop3 or smtp account in script and to send emails with attachments and CC BCC.. I am not sure how mailx works.. Any suggestions :) ?07:19
owhdemoz: Are you asking how to send email from bash?07:20
MoleanWilliamTell: If you drag and drop a mount point into terminal, it won't give you a dev/sda1 address, it will give you its current directory address, for example  /media/xubuntu/1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e/sbin07:20
Moleanwill that address work instead?07:21
teaearlgraycoldBen64, I can't find a place I can upload the image to07:21
demozowh i saw couple tutorials and for example i found "mailx",but do i need to have mail server (sendmail,postfix) ?07:21
teaearlgraycoldThe browser won't work07:21
WilliamTellMolean: thats the current mount point, you need the device07:21
owhdemoz: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8260858/how-to-send-email-from-terminal07:22
Ben64teaearlgraycold: imagebin.org ?07:22
demozowh also can i include external smtp/pop3 mail server to successfuly deliver that email to for example gmail07:22
MoleanWilliamTell: So I can't use its current mount point instead of dev/sda1 or whatever?07:23
WilliamTellMolean: that is correct07:23
teaearlgraycoldBen64, I can't drop items into the built in browser07:23
owhdemoz: Hold on, you want to send mail via the internet from bash without an MTA?07:23
WilliamTellMolean: if it is already mounted why do you need to mount it again?07:23
crocketDoes ubuntu have post-it program?07:23
Yeludemoz, no, no need for a mail server running on your machine. - But you have to configure a target mail relay (gmail or other) with crendentials07:23
MoleanWilliamTell: To change its location07:23
demozYelu how can i do that ? I was googling but haven't found what i need,probably because i haven't asked question properly07:24
MoleanWilliamTell: How do I tell what a devices dev address is?07:24
* Yelu is just looking up that stuff for demoz07:24
WilliamTellMolean: if you want to mount it in another location you can do "sudo mount --bind /orig_mountpoint /new_mountpoint"07:25
demozowh i need client configured for external smtp/pop3 connection and mail sending07:25
owhdemoz: I'm interested to read what Yelu is looking up, because I might learn something ;-)07:26
WilliamTellMolean: to find the device, the command "mount" will show you all the devices that are mounted currently and at which mountpoint07:26
crocketIs tomboy a good post-it program?07:26
ice9an app running by wine can't access the internet!07:26
teaearlgraycoldBen64, how large should my swap partition be? It was 2GB before.07:26
Ben64teaearlgraycold: how much RAM do you have?07:27
teaearlgraycoldBen64, 2GB07:27
owhYelu: Do you mean a send only MTA, like this perhaps: https://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin?format=source07:27
abhvymcrocket, yes. its good.07:27
Ben64teaearlgraycold: then 2GB should be fine still07:27
demozowh cool :) .. i tried my best to find that "something" that i need,but i wasn't sure what question to ask07:27
teaearlgraycoldBen64, I'd prefer it to be as small as possible though07:27
owhdemoz: I'm still not sure if that's what Yelu is going to suggest. Stand by.07:27
teaearlgraycoldIs it okay to have it lower than my RAM size?07:28
Ben64teaearlgraycold: 2GB isn't a lot of memory, so its good to have swap as a buffer07:28
teaearlgraycoldOkay07:28
MoleanWilliamTell When you first start out with a usb live drive, other drives are read only, how do you change this?07:28
jason_usually double the ram is a good size for a swap07:29
MoleanThat rule of thumb seems silly to me07:29
MoleanSince the less ram you have, the more likely you will need swap07:29
WilliamTellMolean: does "mount" say they're mounted read only? that is not default behavior07:29
jason_its a tradion from a at lest 2 of my previouse institutions07:29
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Yeludemoz, owh, Details here => https://duckduckgo.com/?q=configure+mail+relay+gmail+for+mailx&t=canonical07:30
teaearlgraycoldBen64, so here's what I have now. /dev/sda1 from 0 - 1.82 TiB. Then an extended partition and a linux-swap partition inside of that.07:30
owhYelu: Well, that was my first duckduckgo search ;-)07:30
teaearlgraycoldDo I need them to be the same /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5?07:31
Yeluhttp://earthwithsun.com/questions/137461/does-mailx-send-mail-using-an-smtp-relay-or-does-it-directly-connect-to-the-targ07:31
Yeluowh, demoz^07:31
Ben64teaearlgraycold: no, but you might have to modify fstab if it doesn't find your swap partition after you reboot07:31
MoleanWilliamTell: I think mount says they are RW, but they are all definitely read only07:31
teaearlgraycoldBen64, so I can do that from my original OS?07:31
jason_a 200gig swap? thats a little mad, or your working with some beast of farm07:32
Yeludemoz, owh, there is an very detailled example on that page07:32
WilliamTellMolean: well if it says rw, then it is rw. what are you experiencing that says it is read only?07:32
teaearlgraycoldOr do I need a live CD07:32
owhYelu: I'm reading it. Looks interesting.07:32
Ben64teaearlgraycold: yeah you can do that from your OS07:32
teaearlgraycoldIt'll just throw an error and be fine for the most part?07:32
Ben64teaearlgraycold: you might not even see the error, but you can check to see how much swap is currently enabled with the command "free -m"07:33
owhdemoz: This is the link from that article you need: http://www.fclose.com/1411/sending-email-from-mailx-command-in-linux-using-gmails-smtp/07:33
MoleanWilliamTell: Aside from the second half of properies saying read only? The fact that I can not add, alter, or delete files through file manager07:33
teaearlgraycoldOkay. Should I leave a buffer at the end of the HDD?07:33
owhYelu: Yup. It seems that the answer is yes ;-) Learnt something new.07:33
teaearlgraycoldGparted seems to have automatically left 1MB at the end07:33
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bazhangMolean, it's a system file. use sudo07:33
demozyelu owh thank you guys :)07:33
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Ben64teaearlgraycold: if you think you'll put something else there, the 1MB is for alignment issues07:33
Yeluowh, demoz, you're welcome :)07:34
teaearlgraycoldOkay, cool07:34
Moleanbazhang: My video folder is not a system file...07:34
teaearlgraycoldI'll apply the changes now07:34
bazhangMolean, xorg.conf?07:34
Moleanbleach07:34
Molean[DB]_Bleach_263_[D27639A7].avi07:34
Ben64Molean: because  you're on a live system. not on your user07:35
MoleanIf you must know, just a example of course07:35
Moleanben64 thankyou captain obvious07:35
Ben64well you seemed confused07:35
bazhangMolean, that attitude is not acceptable here, ever07:35
MoleanSaying something is obvious?07:36
owhMolean: Sarcasm.07:36
Moleank07:36
bazhangbeing rude Molean07:36
Moleanwasn't07:36
Ben64Molean: if you're wondering why you can't modify files of your installed user from the livecd user, that is the reason07:36
Moleanpeople butting in feels rude to me, but maybe that's just me07:36
MoleanThere is a fix for that ben, believe it or not but please get off my back07:37
owhMolean: You need to remember that people come here from all over the world with different languages and backgrounds. One person's joke is another's offence.07:37
MoleanI feel like Im getting harassed here07:37
owhMolean: It's a group effort. Not a one-on-one support channel. People help if they can.07:37
Ben64Molean: you realize you've been here for 11 hours now with the same simple problem? it would behoove you to listen and accept help people are volunteering07:37
teaearlgraycoldIt's booting but is giving a disk not available error07:37
Moleanben I don't realize things that aren't true07:38
AnAntHello, I am using Ubuntu 12.04 (LTS), when I run do-release-upgrade, it says that there are no new releases, although 14.04 (LTS) has been released, why is that ?07:38
owhBen64: O.o, 11 hours?07:38
Ben64owh: yes.07:38
Moleanbs07:38
owhBen64: You're being very patient ;-)07:38
Ben64http://2.ben64.com/random_junk/molean07:38
jason_ant, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:38
teaearlgraycoldThe abundance of IRC nick based domains is hilarious07:39
AnAntjason_: done that before running do-release-upgrade07:39
jason_tea, which disk? your root.. is it busybox?07:39
owhAnAnt: Which mirror are you using?07:39
MoleanWilliamTell: So do you know the fix for that?07:39
bazhangAnAnt, that will take effect once 14.04.1 is released, in July07:40
FlannelAnAnt: By default, LTS upgrades won't happen until 14.04.1 (in approximately 2.5 months), this is done for stability.  If you want to upgrade early, add "-d" as a flag to your ugrade command07:40
WilliamTellMolean: for what exactly? I wasn't following everything07:40
crocketteaearlgraycold, Like crocket.io?07:40
owhBen64: As I said, very patient.07:40
AnAntbazhang: ah, thanks07:40
AnAntFlannel: thanks07:40
teaearlgraycoldcrocket, :P07:40
MoleanWilliamTell: To make external drives read write from a usb live drive07:40
crocketteaearlgraycold, People want to represent themselves.07:40
teaearlgraycoldBen64, do I have to write down the UUID?07:41
owhFlannel: Ooh, learnt another new thing today. That's two!07:41
WilliamTellMolean: I'm thinking bazhang is correct and you just need the proper permissions to be able to edit system files07:41
Ben64teaearlgraycold: no07:41
MoleanWilliamTell: It has nothing to do with file systems07:41
MoleanIt has to do with accessing drives outside a live flash drive07:42
teaearlgraycoldBen64, I have /etc/fstab open. It has the wrong UUID for the swap partition07:42
jason_ok, creepy stalky mcstalkin, please leave my ame alone, and use my online presence is intentional07:42
jason_...07:42
Ben64teaearlgraycold: ooh, then you should fix that07:42
jason_damn . ive had way too little coffe07:42
teaearlgraycoldBen64, so I have to write down the partition's UUID?07:42
teaearlgraycoldThat doesn't sound like fun07:42
Ben64teaearlgraycold: you can just copy it07:42
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MoleanWilliamTell: How do i set said drives permissions for RW?07:43
WilliamTellMolean: you said they were already rw??07:43
teaearlgraycoldBen64, don't know how to do that in terminal07:43
MoleanWilliamTell: No I didnt07:43
Ben64teaearlgraycold: are you back in your ubuntu?07:43
teaearlgraycoldBen64, yes. I'm running Ubuntu server edition. No X installed07:43
MoleanWilliamTell: Do you know how?07:44
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WilliamTell<Molean> WilliamTell: I think mount says they are RW, but they are all definitely read only07:45
MoleanWilliamTell: If they were already that way, why would I ask how to make them that way? strange07:45
WilliamTelllike I said, rw means rw07:45
owhBen64: Has anyone considered that the card isn't installed correctly?07:45
owhBen64: Wading through 11 hours is a challenge ;)07:45
Ben64owh: try living it07:45
Deddokatanaphew..07:46
Ben64teaearlgraycold: you can get the uuid from "sudo blkid"07:46
MoleanWilliamTell Notice where I explicitly said "they are all definitely read only" and further backed that up, so please don't randomly call me a liar07:46
owhBen64: Nah, been there, done that, wrote the book. It ended up with a telepathic printer in a room without power and not connected to the computer.07:46
WilliamTellMolean: whoa calm down, maybe you just need to use sudo?07:46
teaearlgraycoldBen64, already did. Got it typed out into fstab and I'm rebooting07:46
Deddokatanavery new install this.. utopic turned less stable thn a balanced pencil on a rollercoaster07:47
MoleanWilliamTell: of course sudo bypasses read only, but that doesn't change the permissions of the drives, just of the person07:47
Ben64teaearlgraycold: ok, "free -m" should give you a swap line with ~2048MB total swap07:47
teaearlgraycoldBen64, okay07:47
MoleanWilliamTell do you or do you not know how?07:47
WilliamTellMolean: actually, if it is truely mounted read only, not even root could write to it07:47
* owh wades in.07:47
teaearlgraycoldBooting up takes a while because the machine hangs on not being able to config the network connection07:47
MoleanWilliamTell I am talking about the physical drive being read only, I am talking about it being designated as such07:48
teaearlgraycoldNot sure if I can bypass that somehow07:48
riteshany one here ?07:48
MoleanWilliamTell I want to be able to manipulate files without running commands through terminals constantly, I know it's possible because ive done it before. Do you know how or not???07:48
WilliamTellMolean: right. if a partition is mounted read only, nobody, not root, not sudo, nobody can write to it07:48
teaearlgraycoldritesh, yes07:48
Deddokatanatea, instll network manager, and stop being so cheap with syem resources07:48
riteshcan someone please tell me how to join anew groop ?07:48
riteshi mean new channel07:48
owhMolean: I am not completely across your problem. Has anyone at any point in the past 11 hours asked you to boot from a LiveCD to check if the video card is actually visible from within the OS, using lspci?07:48
riteshi want to join #logstash channel07:49
owhritesh: Use the /join command.07:49
teaearlgraycoldDeddokatana, what?07:49
riteshshould i type it right here ?07:49
teaearlgraycoldWhat's that going to do for me?07:49
WilliamTellMolean: you will always need sudo to access system files07:49
owhritesh: Yup.07:49
riteshthanks owh.07:49
ritesh:)07:49
teaearlgraycoldBen64, cool, my swap seems to be there!07:49
teaearlgraycoldThanks a bunch07:49
Ben64!yay | teaearlgraycold07:49
ubottuteaearlgraycold: Glad you made it! :-)07:49
owhNice.07:50
riteshThanks a ton owh.07:50
teaearlgraycoldNow to set it up on the correct subnet and restart those services07:50
owhritesh: Pleasure.07:50
MoleanWilliamTell and you are saying all drives outside of a live are considered system files?07:50
Moleanand that there is no way around that?07:50
WilliamTellMolean: no, but system files on a different partition are still owned by root07:50
MoleanI am not talking about system files, I am not talking about system files, I am not talking about SYSTEM FILES!!!!!!07:51
WilliamTellbazhang said you wanted xorg.conf? that is definitely a system file.07:51
MoleanI said bleach video07:51
MoleanYou saying bazhang knows more about what I want then I do?07:52
WilliamTellOk, and that has already been explained to you by Ben64, who you yelled at after he gave you the correct answer07:52
MoleanThat all drives outside the live are system files? wrong07:52
WilliamTellMolean: you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of file permissions on linux07:53
cfhowlett!who07:53
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)07:53
owhMolean: May I suggest that you get up from your workstation and go for a 10 minute walk. It appears to me that you're pretty angry and that doesn't help solving problems. Many people have attempted to help you, as volunteers, so some kindness will go a long way.07:53
MoleanI said before, I will say again, It is possible, because Ive done it before, so I know it is possible, so either you know or don't, and if you dont, then just say so07:53
Moleanyeah thanks owh07:54
WilliamTellMolean: Is it possible to get rid of all file permission on linux? Sure. Will I tell you how? No. That is wildly insecure.07:54
demozowh Yelu this is neat tutorial for sendmail email with mailx with smtp https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-send-e-mail-alerts-on-a-centos-vps-for-system-monitoring :)07:55
MoleanNot what I said william, I asked how to make drives designated read write that are outside a usb flash drive07:55
Moleanlive drive07:55
WilliamTellMolean: we seem to be going around in circles. they are read write already. you appear to simply lack permissions07:56
Moleanyes, I want to set the permissions, Like I said07:56
Moleanthe drives are physically read write, but they lack that designation07:57
Moleanthat permission07:57
WilliamTellMolean: why not go the easy way and use root and/or sudo for things that require it?07:57
Moleanbecause thats not easy at all07:57
Moleanusing terminal commands for every little alteration of file is nothing like easy07:58
jpjacobsHi! Does anyone know how to have deja-dup launch a backup without being logged into a GUI session?07:58
WilliamTellMolean: it should be very rare that you need to edit system files07:58
Moleanplease dont be rude william07:58
jpjacobsI noticed that daily backups don't happen when not logged in :/ which is a major bummer when working from a distance over ssh07:58
MoleanYou are smart enough to know I already told you about that07:59
* Yelu is reading demoz's link07:59
owh!who | Molean07:59
ubottuMolean: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)07:59
owhMolean: Let's start with some civility around here. All of us are volunteers. The only person who remembers everything is you. We come and go to help as we can.08:00
MoleanWilliamTell, is williamt also you? Thanks to that name autocomplete doesnt work and I got to type it out completely08:00
Moleanowh thankyou, I am glad you are on my side08:00
uRajviNeed some help with Empathy on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS08:01
WilliamTellMolean: Nope, I'm the only me here08:01
owhMolean: I'm on nobody's side. I'm here as a volunteer to help. If you want my help, you'll need to be patient and civil.08:01
Yeludemoz, yup, very useful, thank you08:01
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Moleanowh you think the same as me, which makes me consider you on my side08:02
MoleanWe should be patient and civil, here here!08:02
uRajviWaitiig for my turn :(08:02
owhuRajvi: What is your issue. I didn't see it in this flurry of noise.08:02
BeldarHello Ubuntu care taking; how can we enable you.08:03
cfhowlettuRajvi please state your issue08:03
uRajviOn Startup Empathy always is offline08:03
demozYelu you are welcome,thank you for time and pointers :)08:04
owhuRajvi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/193059/empathy-sign-in-automatically08:04
teaearlgraycoldOkay so for absolutely no reason at all my server decided to change its interface name from eth1 to eth008:04
yossarianuk hi - having an issue with the 2nd LAN NIC in an Ubuntu 14.04 server - on reboot eth1 keeps getting renamed - sometimes to em2, sometimes to rename408:05
owhROTFL08:05
yossarianuk how can I prevent this ?  previously it would use info in /etc/udev/rules.d/ in 14.04 how can I ensure the device name for eth1 stays constant ?08:05
owhteaearlgraycold: You appear to have the same issue as yossarianuk.08:05
uRajviLet me reboot08:05
* owh recommends that you both continue the discussion in #ubuntu-server.08:05
yossarianuk(what was so wrong with eth1 anyway.....)08:05
teaearlgraycoldowh, solution: never restart the machine08:05
teaearlgraycoldowh, fair enough08:06
yossarianukowh: ok - am in there .08:06
owhuRajvi: You only have to logout.08:06
yossarianukthats not really a solution08:06
yossarianukkernel, glibc, updates, etc08:06
owhyossarianuk: Can I recommend that you discuss this in #ubuntu-server with teaearlgraycold?08:07
yossarianuksure - np08:07
uRajvi_Thanks empathy-h did the job !08:08
nomnex!info08:10
uRajvi_Thanks empathy-h did the job !08:10
coventryxbacklight stopped working after I upgraded to trusty.  Any suggestions for how to fix it?  (Same screen brightness for "xbacklight -set 0" and "xbacklight -set 100")08:10
MoleanLets say you booted up using a USB live, and you wanted to do some stuff with the documents in your document file of your HDD, You want to be able to create, save, and delete documents as you wish, without having to run it through terminal every single time08:10
owhuRajvi_: Excellent.08:10
MoleanThere is a way to do this, Does anyone know this way?08:10
uRajvi_Sorry sorry08:11
uRajvi_I am newbie08:11
uRajvi_NOw another problem Empathy is not lauching08:11
owhMolean: The USB live does not share the users with the system. Permissions to access those files can only go through root, and only if the documents are not on an encrypted home directory.08:12
owhuRajvi_: Did you put a space before the -h?08:12
owhMolean: Does your computer have one or two video cards?08:12
uRajvi_When I rebooted the system it came up online by default as I wanted, however now i can't launch the app itself08:13
Moleanowh: What does video cards have to do with FS permission systems?08:13
uRajvi_no it didn't put any spaces08:14
owhMolean: I'm aware that you're having a problem with your video card, or am I mistaken?08:14
owhuRajvi_: The link I sent you has a space between: "empathy -h"08:14
MoleanI didn't ask anything about a video card08:14
MoleanPlease stick to what I am asking about08:14
uRajvi_Oh Sorry08:14
owh!who | Molean08:14
ubottuMolean: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:14
MoleanL08:14
uRajvi_Restarting again08:15
Moleanowh:  It was right after you spoke and chats not that busy, please don't fret that much about less important issues08:15
Moleanowh BUT i give some effort to, if it matters that much to you08:16
owhMolean: I am not only looking at this screen. There are other things happening in my life. If you want a timely response, use the nick.08:16
ttyHi. I have a wordpress installation on Ubuntu but the contact form is not sending the email. Anyone know what to do?08:17
tty[11:19am]08:17
Moleanowh Anyway, I have other issues I have questions over too, but they are separate issues, if you mix them together we won't make progress on any of em08:17
owhMolean: If you separate them out and the issues are related, we might end up chasing our tails. So tell us what is actually wrong. If it's a long story, use pastebin, write it all down, send us a link and we'll see what we can help with.08:19
uRajviNo Help08:20
uRajviIt shows online by default, but can't launch the App08:20
Moleanowh unrelated things are unrelated things, lets deal with one thing at a time. Do you doubt me, are you calling me a liar, when I say I have managed, with help, to set up open permissions for drives outside of usb live, so that I can alter when I want without running through terminal?08:21
owhSorry mate, that's not how we talk around here Molean.08:22
uRajvi#owh08:22
Moleanowh:  If not english, then what do you call it?08:22
owhMolean: The language you're using is abusive. It's not the first time.08:23
owhuRajvi: How can I help?08:23
WilliamTellMolean: owh is trying to help you, why not let him?08:23
MoleanI didn't say anything abusive08:23
uRajviCan't launch Empathy now08:23
MoleanYou use that word too freely so that it has no meaning like that08:23
owh!who | uRajvi08:23
ubottuuRajvi: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:23
Moleanif that can be called abusive, anything can08:23
owhuRajvi: So, you added empathy -h to your start up items and you can no longer launch it?08:24
WilliamTellMolean: Lets assume that there is a way to give you root without using sudo or gksudo. Nobody here knows how, so why not just save everyone's time and use sudo?08:24
Moleanoops owh I didn't say anything abusive. You use that word too freely so that it has no meaning like that. if that can be called abusive, anything can.08:25
owhMolean: You are accusing me of calling you a liar. That is both untrue and abusive.08:25
Moleanwilliamtell, that wouldnt be saving my time. And since I dont know most terminal commands, there are things I cant even do like that08:25
owhMolean: So settle down, ask your question and perhaps do as I asked you.08:26
Moleanowh you just accused me of being abusive, isn't that stronger then liar?08:26
WilliamTellMolean: how long have you spent here trying to figure out a way to not use sudo?08:26
* owh sighs.08:26
Moleanowh anyway, you are questioning my honesty when I tell you something and you  act like I didnt say it or that it isnt true08:27
owhMolean: I have a few hours today to share with the community. I came here to help people, not to be abused. If you're not wanting to do either, what are you doing here?08:27
Moleanwilliamtell I don't know how to save a document through sudo, and dont underestimate how time consuming it would be to have to write a line for every little change08:28
WilliamTellMolean: by now you could have already solved your problem and been back on your normal install08:28
Moleanowh, feel free to help me if you can, if you can't, ok08:29
MoleanWilliamTell: Anyway, wouldn't it be similar just to tell me you don't know and then be silent on the issue?08:30
owhMolean: If I understand correctly, your video card died. You replaced it, but it doesn't work properly. You're currently running a LiveCD where it does work. You want to edit a file on your normal drive but are having problems.08:30
owhMolean: Is that understanding correct?08:30
Moleanowh nearly08:31
WilliamTellMolean: yeah, I already said if such a way exists to become root without using sudo, I don't know it. Neither does anyone in this channel. I personally doubt such a method exists. So dealing with that, how about we solve your problem by using sudo?08:31
Moleanowh and Ive already tried a number of different things08:31
MoleanHow do you create edit and save a file using sudo?08:32
owhMolean: What about my understanding is not correct?08:32
Moleanowh to the point where it seemed like no one had anything to to suggest08:32
zappyMolean: did you try chroot?08:33
Moleanzappy try it for what?08:33
WilliamTellMolean: sudo nano /path/to/file08:33
zappyMolean:enter your system08:33
owhMolean: Sometimes problems are hard to resolve using IRC. Sometimes that's because both parties don't have the same understanding of what's going on, sometimes it's something that's been missed. You've been here for 11 hours. It's appropriate to revisit our assumptions to make sure we're solving the right problem.08:34
Moleanowh its not the video card that isnt working, but the driver its a persistent live usb flash drive,  and editing files on my regular hard drive is only mildly connected at best08:34
MoleanWell, in the way I was asking about I mean08:35
Moleanowh http://paste.ubuntu.com/7413895/08:35
MoleanWilliamTell: how do I sudo the file into existance in the first place?08:37
owhMolean: Right, so editing documents on your hard-drive from the LiveCD is only because you cannot get your video card to work right. Is that correct?08:37
Moleanmostly right08:37
WilliamTellMolean: if the file doesn't exist, then nano will create it08:37
MoleanOne particular file I need to edit in order to try a method08:37
owhWilliamTell: Is there any reason we're not starting the machine up in VESA mode from the boot prompt?08:38
Moleanwilliamtell, how do I do path to file, of a file that doesnt exist yet?08:38
owhWilliamTell: So, we're not using a LiveCD?08:38
WilliamTellowh: I'm not sure, I haven't been here very long08:39
Moleanowh, any particular reason your talking to william and not me?08:39
owhMolean: I'm asking WilliamTell because he's also trying to help. If we coordinate our efforts we can help you better rather than trying six things at the same time.08:39
WilliamTellwhen I came in here I saw stuff about xorg.conf, so I figured that's what the problem was08:39
MoleanWilliamTell:  No, just one of several possible solutions08:40
Moleanexact problem is unknown08:40
Moleanattempts at using other solutions ran into the solutions not working as expected, and not fixing the problem08:41
MoleanWilliamTell how do I do path to file, of a file that doesnt exist yet?08:42
jason_login Deddokatana08:43
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WilliamTellMolean: I'm unsure of your mount point but it'd be something like this... sudo nano /media/mountpoint/etc/X11/xorg.conf08:43
ZyraxHello. Anyone here that can help me to figure out how to do a script running on my Ubuntu-box that will query a webpage and measure the loadtime...?08:43
MoleanWilliamTell So directory path will suffice? But the directory paths very long with random characters, Its much easier if I drag and drop into terminal, but how do I do that for a file that doesn't exist?08:45
WilliamTellMolean: well you can use tab completion for the directory names, and just fill in xorg.conf at the end08:45
Moleanill try08:46
arcskyhello guys, when i start apache on ubuntu with /etc/init.d/apache start . which config files does it use then?08:46
ZyraxI am looking for total rentdering time including scripts. So a simple curl is out of the question.08:47
owhMolean: I would like to suggest something that has been previously tried. It appears to me that the attempt failed. It will feel like you're going backwards, but we're trying to fix your problem. I recommend that you stop doing what WilliamTell is helping you with. Are you ok with trying this?08:49
owharcsky: /etc/apache208:50
cactuswizardhow can i format my usb stick?08:50
Moleanowh dont do the vesa thing? I just finished setting it up though08:50
Moleanowh be more specific please, what do you want to try?08:50
owhMolean: I want to recommend that you stop using the LiveCD and boot from your normal drive in graphics recovery mode, use the normal ubuntu tools to remove packages and reinstall missing ones. Hopefully this will resolve your issue.08:51
owhcactuswizard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198065/how-to-format-a-usb-drive08:52
Moleanwell that graphics recovery thing was a bit confusing before, though I think I understand more08:52
owhMolean: Before we do this, how are you currently talking to us?08:52
Moleanowh how will I know what packages are missing or need to be removed?08:52
MoleanUSB live flash08:52
Moleanpersistant08:53
owhMolean: Do you have more than one computer?08:53
Moleanno08:53
owhMolean: That's going to make it tougher. We need to get you to a point where you have enough of your computer running, so you can come back to us.08:53
Moleanowh And this vesa things been set up, all i need to do is reboot and see what happens I think08:53
owhMolean: Well start with that then.08:54
MoleanOk, im off for now while I do that08:54
owhMolean: Good luck.08:54
Moleanowh thanks08:54
* owh thanks all participants to date for their perseverance.08:55
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Su7Hi #ubuntu. Has this issue been resolved yet ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/130514/ubuntu-12-04-wallpaper-problem-when-using-two-monitors - http://askubuntu.com/questions/181368/notebook-dual-monitor-setup-wallpaper-resolution-changes-on-restart-or-relog?lq=109:02
InFiernoMM guys anyone know of a website that lets u make *.bla subdomains which u can set DNS on (like old co.cc /co.nr)09:02
owhInFierno: DynamicDNS?09:03
InFiernoDoesnt that reequire software to be installed to link it to an IP?09:04
InFiernoI only want it for a little project09:04
InFiernoso free is good09:04
owhInFierno: You can use AWS free tier for a year.09:04
owhSu7: I do not know. Are you running 12.04, or upgrading to 14.04?09:06
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Su7owh : I run 14.0409:06
owhSu7: So, are you still having that issue?09:07
InFiernoAWS seems overkill for basically URL redirection09:07
phasipI'm watching youtube videos with sound that is on only the left side. Can I in some easy way make the left side also be played on the right side?09:09
Su7owh: yes, still having the issue right now09:10
optimigt#Apachefriends09:10
xanguaphasip: change to mono then in your sounds settings09:10
owhoptimigt: You need the /join command09:10
Su7It's really weird, because on a modern GNOME on my arch I cannot reproduce the issue09:11
Moleanim back09:12
Arctichelo?09:13
Moleanhi09:13
ArcticCan you help me with booting?09:14
YeluMolean, so you're a lucky man now, or not?09:14
MoleanYelu Not especially, it loaded, but the graphics still arent fixed09:14
MoleanHow do I go in and add or subtract what in order for a real fix?09:15
phasipxangua: Aaah, thanks. My ears have now stopped bleeding09:15
Dvorovoiis there an effective way to find out what was going on just before my pc locks up?09:15
Dvorovoior i should ask, what logs do i check09:15
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YeluMolean, I'm sorry to hear this.09:16
TJ-Dvorovoi: Check which log files were last written to, with "sudo ls -latr /var/log/" then look at, especially, kern.log, syslog, Xorg.0.log and possibly auth.log09:17
MoleanYelu, well might you please take a stab at my question?09:17
YeluMolean, I don't know this ATI stuff well, but owh suggested to do this boot recovery/restore thing ...09:17
DvorovoiTJ-: thanks09:17
MoleanYelu what do you mean?09:18
Moleanowh: You there?09:18
owhMolean: So, let me get this straight. You're currently running your own machine, from its own harddisk, not from the LiveCD right?09:18
YeluMolean, owh is the "lead"09:18
TJ-Dvorovoi: Be aware with sudden freezes it is unlikely the log-files are written to with anything about the immediate event, but may have some earlier indications of a build-up of issues09:19
owhMolean: So, let me get this straight. You're currently running your own machine, from its own harddisk, not from the LiveCD right?09:19
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Moleanowh yes but the graphics are a little funky, and I dont want to go through all this every time09:20
DvorovoiTJ-: well it usually happens when im running eclipse09:20
Moleanowh I want to fix the problem09:20
owhMolean: What do you mean when you say "funky"09:20
DvorovoiTJ-: and the first time it went away by switching from OpenJDK to java8. didnt freeze for a couple of days09:20
owhMolean: If I'm going to help you, you need to be precise. This can still end badly, so one step at a time.09:21
Moleanowh has a bit of a faded grainy look to it, this card is capable of more then this09:21
Moleanowh and graphics looked better from the flash drive too09:21
owhMolean: You booted into graphics recovery mode, or into VESA mode as configured?09:21
DvorovoiTJ-: i should say. it always happens when im running eclipse09:21
optimigtHow to install(xampp-linux-x64-1.8.3-4-installer.run)on my Ubuntu 14.04 system?09:22
Moleanowh the vesa thing didnt  do anything, I went into low graphics recovery mode09:22
TJ-Dvorovoi: Does the entire PC freeze up, or just the GUI? In other words, can you switch to a terminal using Ctrl+Alt+F1, or can you remotely connect using SSH to the PC when it is otherwise frozen?09:22
owhMolean: So, to make sure, you selected the graphics recovery mode from the grub menu?09:22
DvorovoiTJ-: ill try the ctrl+alt+f1 thing next time09:22
DvorovoiTJ-: but mouse and keyboard lock up09:22
DvorovoiTJ-: and audio playback09:23
Moleanowh yes09:23
yossarianukteaearlgraycold: I have a solution to the eth1 -> rename4 , etc09:23
owhMolean: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?09:23
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Molean12.409:24
Moleanwhy?09:25
owhMolean: I'm going through *all* the steps. Not skipping any. No surprises.09:25
owhMolean: Which video card did you have that failed?09:25
TJ-Dvorovoi: If you have an expectation of the freeze, I'd run a terminal window tailing the kernel log in case you can catch an indication on-screen "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log"09:25
security_fanpricey09:25
Moleanradeon 6850 replaced with a radeon 770009:25
Moleana definite downgrade09:26
DvorovoiTJ-: will do thanks!09:26
optimigtHow to install program on Ubuntu 14.04 System which has .run extension?09:26
owh!who | Molean09:27
ubottuMolean: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)09:27
Moleanowh radeon 6850 replaced with a radeon 770009:28
TJ-Dvorovoi: Does the host have sufficient RAM? I've known Eclipse and larger projects cause issues in the past, of a similar nature, by forcing swap usage which caused disk thrashing09:28
owhMolean: If we're going to do this, you need to understand that I'm doing things on multiple screens. I won't see anything unless you use my nick. I'm not trying to be a pig, I'm trying to help.09:28
DvorovoiTJ-: You know, Im new Ubuntu, been using windows up until last week. I havent even checked to see if its registering all my RAM...dont even know how09:29
DvorovoiTJ-: Also I use solid state hard drives. donno if that affects it09:29
owhMolean: I understand that you followed some instructions to remove and reinstall drivers. Is that correct?09:29
DvorovoiTJ-: But i SHOULD have 8gb RAM09:30
TJ-Dvorovoi: "free" will report the RAM (caches and buffers will use any free RAM until it is needed, so don't be surprised by an apparent low value for 'free')09:30
Moleanowh something like that, but they didnt work at all, seemed to make it worse even09:31
Moleanowh didn't even flow right in the middle09:31
liulshi09:31
DvorovoiTJ-: and free reports in bytes?09:31
liulswhy my ibus con't work on firefox09:31
owhMolean: I understand that it failed. What I need to learn is what you did, so we can undo it.09:31
Radon_3gud after noon everyone, whatcommand do I have to run? so that when I run sudo apt-get update, it will download everything all over again? kind of reset apt-get?09:32
TJ-Dvorovoi: in KB. You can change that to 'human' with "free -h" ... for almost every command on the system, you can get consistent usage help via man-pages, e.g. "man free"09:33
liulsit's work on GNOME Terminal09:33
liulsbut it isn't work on firefox09:33
DvorovoiTJ-: man is a new command to me, ive just been checking to see if commands have a --help09:34
Radon_3ok thank you09:34
Moleanowh even if its undone, the problem still exists, just in another form09:35
TJ-Dvorovoi: some commands do, but it is Debian policy to provide a man-page for each user-callable executable, and often others too. Many of the operating system and standard C library functions and structures are also documented that way. "man" is always your first port of call if you need clear information... it'll describe more than a '--help' ever can09:36
Moleanown I think we might get there faster by walking forewards, rather then walking backwards09:36
Moleanowh I think we might get there faster by walking forewards, rather then walking backwards09:36
owhMolean: I understand. The problem is that I don't yet know which part of your machine is broken. I know that the video isn't working as expected, but that requires a lot of things to work. Bear with me please.09:36
Radon_3owh: can yoube kind and give mea handwith this please?09:37
Moleanowh pretty positive its the video card drivers, so that I simple need to dig out all the old driver files and replace em with something more fitting09:37
owhRadon_3: Right now I'm in the middle of fixing another problem. Sorry.09:37
Radon_3ok i'll wait09:37
Radon_3nprblms09:37
owhMolean: The video card drivers is not a single file, it's a whole collection of things that interact with each other, several layers, each has to work. If you deleted two bits from three layers, installing the drivers won't fix it.09:38
* Radon_3 is whissiling09:39
owhMolean, please open up a terminal.09:39
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Moleanowh go on09:40
TJ-Radon_3: 'update' will only fetch package lists that have changed. You'd need to (manually) delete those stored in "/var/lib/apt/lists/" for apt to re-fetch them09:41
owhMolean: sudo apt-get update <enter>09:41
Radon_3will it be ok if I removed every single file in tht folder?09:41
Radon_3TJ-?09:41
RoryRadon_3: I have a script which does something similar to what you need perhaps: http://rory.sh/fixpackages09:41
RoryRadon_3: wget -O - http://rory.sh/fixpackages | sh09:42
centor_Is it possible to move the htdocs folder to other hard drive?09:43
Rorycentor_: Yes, are you using apache?09:43
centor_xampp09:43
Rorycentor_: What Ubuntu version are you using? (What is the output of the command cat /etc/issue )09:44
centor_Rory Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l09:44
Rorycentor_: How did you install apache?09:44
Rorycentor_: Edit the file /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default (or similar) and change the location of the htdocs folder09:45
Rorycentor_: Then move the actual files to that location09:45
owhMolean: Where is that command at?09:45
DvorovoiWhen using tail on the kern.log file. is there a way to filter out the UFW messages?09:45
centor_Rory okay09:46
security_fanpricey09:46
owhDvorovoi: Pipe it through a grep -v09:46
Rorycentor_: If you need more help configuring apache I recommend asking in #apache as well09:46
centor_Rory ok09:46
Dvorovoiowh: awesome thanks09:46
security_fanlol09:47
Moleanowh its still downloading updates09:47
owhMolean: Let me know when its done.09:47
Moleanowh seems to be stuck on "Connecting to packages.medibuntu.org"09:48
cfhowlettMolean medibuntu is dead and gone09:49
RoryMolean: Medibuntu has now been shut down, the packages were either obsolete, unnecessary or moved to the official Ubuntu archive.09:49
owhMolean: Press Ctrl-C and stop the command.09:49
Moleank09:50
Moleanowh stopped09:50
owhMolean: Open up Software Sources and remove medibuntu.09:50
Moleanowh you mean software center?09:50
RoryMolean: It's called Software& Updates09:51
owhRory, did it get renamed?09:51
Roryowh: Yes09:51
Radon_3bery bery amazing: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt09:51
Radon_3didn't know09:51
owhThat's three new things I learnt today ;-)09:51
demozMolean System settings > Software & Updates>Other software09:52
owhDoes it look the same? I don't have one lying around.09:52
owhdemoz: Thank you.09:52
demoznp owh :)09:52
Moleansynaptic package manager?09:52
demozMolean System Settings09:53
YeluRory, not under 12.04 (which is molean's version)09:53
Roryowh: http://i.imgur.com/th9ealw.png09:53
RoryMolean: Software Properties09:53
owhYelu, No, he;s told us it's 14.0409:53
MoleanI never said that09:53
owhBugger09:53
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owhNo, he didn't.09:54
Yeluowh, sorry, missed that somehow :(09:54
Moleanupdate manager?09:54
owhWhoops :-)09:54
Moleanowh update manager?09:54
owhMolean: Hang on.09:54
owhRory, that's for 14.04 right?09:55
owhDoh, it says so right in the picture.09:55
Radon_3https://i.imgur.com/th9ealw.png -> is this how 14.04 looks? Cause I want that09:55
Radon_3OMG09:55
owhUnder 12.04, is it still called Software Sources?09:55
owhBRB, door bell.09:55
Moleanowh what's the next step anyway?09:56
Radon_3ok, why is that I don't get an upgra option to 14.04 yet?09:56
Radon_3*upgrade option09:56
owhMolean: The step is to remove medibuntu from your sources.09:56
cfhowlettRadon_3 LTS to LTS - it'll display once point release comes out in July09:56
SohronMolean, log in as an admin from time to time and ubuntu will present you a nice window with updateable packages09:57
Sohronif there are any09:57
Radon_34th of july, i like that09:57
Radon_3even better09:57
Radon_3it's like BOOOM!09:57
Radon_3for me09:57
demozRadon_3 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades09:57
ActionParsnipRadon_3: is Precise working ok for you?09:57
Radon_3Radon_3: yeah, for the most part, why?09:58
MoleanOk disabled09:58
Radon_3ActionParsnip: yeah, for the most part, why?09:58
Moleanowh disabled09:58
n3urogodhey peeps...I managed to setup a samba file share some time ago, which I would like to modify, however I can't find the actual config for it. As in, there is nothing configured in /etc/samba/smb.conf...going through the Files app and viewing the share properties shows that it isn't shared...and yet I can get to it from the network?09:58
owhMolean: Go back to the terminal and re-run the apt-get update09:58
ActionParsnipRadon_3: then why fix what isnt broken?09:58
ActionParsnipRadon_3: Precise is supported til April 2017 ...09:58
n3urogodIf I run 'service smbd stop' then I lose access, so it must be part of the smbd service config...Any ideas of where else I could look?09:59
Moleanowh done09:59
owhMolean: sudo apt-get -f install10:00
Radon_3ActionParsnip: I know what you mean, and i'm sorry for being a pain in the neck or lower parts of your bodies, but I have paranoia about the probability that I might have broken stuff along the way so far, 12.04 is the ultimate of human computing of our age, but it is me tht might have hurt it10:00
Radon_3cause iam a wannabe newbie, and new to ubuntu10:00
Moleanowh done, what did that install?10:01
owhMolean: It finished installing whatever you last installed. What did it say. pastebin it.10:02
ActionParsnipRadon_3: but if Precise is working and supported fr ages, why upgrade?10:02
owhMolean: Also pastebin the result of this command : history10:03
Yeluowh, 12.04. Software Center (can be found in dash with "sources") sample => http://i.imgur.com/2nkdIFL.png10:03
Moleanowh  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.10:04
owhYelu: That's showing Software Centre, not sources.10:04
Yeluowh, ok10:04
owhMolean: Excellent. What about the results of the history command?10:04
Moleanowh what about it?10:05
* Yelu crawling back into his corner10:05
* owh thanks Yelu for playing along and attempting to help.10:05
mac_hi10:05
owhMolean: Can you please put the results of the history command into pastebin.10:05
Moleanowh sorry, just random irrelevant personal stuff, nothing pertinent10:06
owhMolean: Did you remove any system files or change any config files in that history?10:07
mac_how to get free space or remove downloaded package?10:07
Moleanowh no, but it doesn't reflect anything I did in that command prompt10:07
cfhowlettmac_ sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get purge10:07
mac_but it will delete all installed application too??10:08
owhMolean: That's what I was hoping to see. Hang on.10:08
cfhowlettmac_ of course not.10:08
mac_ok let me try10:08
owhMolean: Type sudo -s10:08
cfhowlettmac_ to remove a specific package: sudo apt-get purge packagename10:08
gp1Hello. I need some advice on an issue since upgrading to 14.04. My computer username is the same as my work network username. However, my computer password is different to my work network password (because the work network frequently makes me change passwords). Since 14.04, I think there is some smart feature which automatically uses my computer password when I open my email client (thunderbird).10:09
gp1I think it must keep trying to authenticate because I then get locked out of my company network (for multiple wrong passwords). I made a new user account with a different username to my work username, and haven't had the issue. But I'd prefer to keep the old user name. I wonder if anyone knows what has changed in this release and if there is a way to disable this feature. Thanks a lot.10:09
Moleanowh why root? What now?10:09
owhMolean: Run the history command again.10:09
Moleanowh still not showing the activity from that command prompt10:10
owhMolean: Press ctrl-d10:10
owhMolean: (in the terminal)10:11
Moleanowh down10:11
Moleanowh done10:11
owhMolean: When you ran the instructions to remove stuff, where did you do that?10:11
Moleanrecovery command prompt owh10:12
owhHmm10:12
owhMolean: Hang on.10:12
owhMolean: We're going to run the commands again to remove the ATI drivers. Don't jump ahead. One step at a time.10:15
owhsudo apt-get purge fglrx*10:15
owhMolean: sudo apt-get purge fglrx*10:15
Moleanowh yeah I ran that command before in recovery prompt, want me to run it again?10:16
owhMolean: I do.10:16
owhIf we reinstall ubuntu-desktop, will that do video card detection, or do we now need to do it manually?10:17
Moleanowh it said zero installed so nothing removed10:17
owhMolean: Great. Please pastebin the content of /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:18
schnitzlwhats wrong with this: */1 * * * * /usr/bin/pkill -f touchegg ; /usr/bin/touchegg  ? i want to restart touchegg every 1 minute. touchegg is killed but not restarted.10:21
schnitzlcrontab*10:21
owhschnitzl: I'd change the ; into &&10:22
schnitzlowh: so the command is just executed when 1 commmand succeeded...i will try this. but would be better the ; imo10:22
Moleanowh its the vesa text10:23
acsokahi guys. im using a CCC chart and need to update the ortho2AxisTitle and plot2Series values dynamically using javascript. can anyone tell me how to acess those values please?10:23
schnitzlowh: nope. not working. dafuuuqqqq...10:24
owhMolean: Hang on.10:25
owhMolean: dpkg -l *fglrx*10:29
fausto.xchat2/budus.so10:29
Moleanowh says none in all catagories10:30
owhMolean: Excellent.10:30
owhMolean: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core10:30
n3urogodschnitzl, it probably is starting touchegg, however the shell is being killed when cron finishes running10:33
Moleanowh "ink group gl_conf) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.10:33
Moleanupdate-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/gl_conf is dangling, it will be updated with best choice.10:33
yossarianukto those who are having issues with 14.04 randomly renaming network cards10:33
Moleanowh otherwise seems to have installed10:33
n3urogodtry using /usr/bin/touchegg &10:33
yossarianukhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/biosdevname/+bug/128404310:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1284043 in biosdevname (Ubuntu) "udev renaming the same hardware network i/f to different name, breaks networking and firewall" [High,Confirmed]10:33
schnitzln3urogod: already tried that...not working. i have an idea.10:35
schnitzlhaha. n3urogod owh ....i was trying to run touchegg which needs a xserver. well....10:35
schnitzl*/1 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 ; /usr/bin/touchegg & > /dev/null10:35
n3urogodschnitzl, ahh...lol10:35
acsokacan anyone tell me how to acess a ccc chart using javascript please? I'm trying: "this.chartDefinition.ortho2AxisTitle = "hello"; in the prefetch but no luck"10:36
owhschnitzl: Well that's not going to work ;-)10:36
schnitzlstupid me.10:36
schnitzlit worked with export display10:36
owhExcellent ;-)10:36
schnitzlsweet. learnt something today.10:36
schnitzlthx guys.10:36
owhacsoka: How is this is a ubuntu issue?10:36
owhMolean: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:37
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Moleanowh not sure if it did anything or not10:37
owhMolean: Reboot and tell us what you see.10:37
Moleancant reboot right now, in the middle of something10:38
* owh needs to go and eat dinner.10:38
Moleank10:38
Moleanmaybe some other time then10:38
owhMolean: If it all worked as expected, your problem should now be fixed.10:39
lucidolpstat -a and the web interface cant see my printer but lsusb can and it is suppoerted by cups (samsung scx-4521), how to debug?10:39
owhMolean: If it didn't we have some more work to do.10:39
Moleanowh hopefully I don't have to go through a complicated grub menu every time I log in, its hard to press the f2 key at just the right time10:40
owhMolean: No, if all works as normal, your machine should boot normally.10:40
red45923getting permissions error that a dir [Fail] Is Writable by PHP - i guess i need to chown, how do i find out the php user i need to set ?10:42
Yeluowh, this has been a professional support/coaching "lesson" (at least) for me. - Thank you and also thank you, Molean, for being patient with all of us.10:43
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Guest2413please i have issues with apt-get on my ubuntu???10:45
cfhowlett!details|Guest241310:45
ubottuGuest2413: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)10:45
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Guest2413ok ubottu.. let me paste it...10:45
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RoryGuest2413: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel10:49
Guest2413http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=Ex18v2Ku10:49
Guest2413rory  i  just pasted it10:49
RoryGuest2413: You need to use sudo: "sudo apt-get update"10:49
Rory!sudo | Guest241310:50
ubottuGuest2413: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo10:50
RoryOh sorry Guest2413 I misread10:50
Guest2413i have done a sudo.. rory..10:50
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RoryGuest2413: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys D1106511179518B210:51
trijntjeGuest2413: why do you have so many ppa's?10:51
Guest2413<trijntje>   i dont know it just appear...10:51
RoryGuest2413: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127326/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys10:52
reiseihi, all. I have a strange issue: I start X session in console, when I kill session all console stop working (or may be the keyboard stops working) How can I fix it?10:52
trijntjeGuest2413: thats pretty unlikely, unless someone hacked your computer10:52
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red45923fixed, the dir needed daemon as a user then it worked10:52
Guest2413no way....!!!!10:53
RoryGuest2413: They are all repositories you have added yourself10:53
Guest2413<trijntje>10:53
reiseired45923: what do you mean?10:53
red45923scroll up and you see my question10:53
trijntjeGuest2413: probably not, I'd guess you added those repositorys yourself, and now one of them has a problem. So again, why did you add so many ppa's, that can really destabilise your system10:54
RoryGuest2413: Did the command I gave fix your problem?10:54
reiseioh10:54
gry"why did you add so many ppa's, that can really destabilise your system"10:55
gartralWhere's the screensaver/lock timeout settings for 13.10? I've been searching for days10:55
Guest2413the output http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=Y6xeSDd010:55
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grysurely they would be tested rgrds compatibility with eachother?10:55
Rory!ppa | gry10:55
ubottugry: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge10:55
gartralWoaw netsplit10:55
grythat's a bit entertaining that you don't support them10:56
Rorygry: They're software provided by anyone, you or me could set one up right now10:56
gryit's a lovely feature; mozilla has firefox addons which it not only fashions, but also reviews10:56
Rorygry: This isn't the place to have this discussion10:56
grysomeone reviews a PPA before it is public in launchpad or anyone can add them in?10:57
Rorygry: Anyone can10:57
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gryok.. that's news to me10:57
Rorygry: That's the entire point of them, and it's why you shouldn't just blindly add them10:57
mic22hello10:57
Roryfreenode/staff!?10:57
trijntjegry: just like anyone can put a .exe online and windows users can download and use them. A ppa has the advantage that the owner of the ppa can provide updates automatically10:57
xubuntuhelp10:58
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trijntje!ask | y4ns10:59
ubottuy4ns: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:59
mic22i been a long time ubuntu user sense 6.06.. and now use 14.04 but the future is making me worry what are your thoth about ubuntus future?10:59
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Guest2413so what can i do it still given me the same errors...11:02
y4nsOk, i have such difficult problem, in every distro i had problems with my sound card. Integrated Realtek ALC269, in alsa mixer "HDA Intel Mid", this is netbook card in Nokia Booklet 3G. My problem is i have such a bad quality sound i every single application, amarok, youtube videos, movie player etc. I have no idea how to fix it.11:02
y4nsAny idea?11:03
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trijntjeGuest2413: show the output plz11:04
Guest2413ok...11:04
Guest2413http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=k4E327tC11:05
y4nstrijntje, momento...11:05
geirhaGuest2413: you're missing the key for one of the third-party repositories/ppas11:06
Guest2413<geirha> what do i do???11:06
y4nshttp://pho.to/5XsL011:06
y4nsThis is how its look like11:07
y4nshttp://pho.to/5XsL011:07
y4nsBut sound quality is such a poor.11:07
wasanzyhello11:07
geirhaGuest2413: Figure out which it is, and add it with apt-key. More importantly though, how did you add those third-party repositories? Sounds like you didn't follow the standard procedures11:07
trijntjeGuest2413: you imported the wrong key11:07
Guest2413<geirha>  what do i do ???11:08
y4nsSong step forward each 2 seconds, or you dont hear anything for a while a then you hear something only for a short time. :[11:08
wasanzymy ubuntu server is not connected to the internet, now I don't have any C compiler installed on it and am trying to install it now but there is problem:   http://paste.scsys.co.uk/36841611:09
wasanzyhow do I solve this problem?11:09
Guest2413i did an apt- key list and this is what i have... http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=JTKQYW4f11:11
Deepfriedicewasanzy, Easiest way would be to connect it to the internet. Failing that, you are going to need to figure out all the unmet dependencies of gcc (including their own dependencies and so on), and install them first.11:12
y4nshelp?11:13
wasanzymy server is access via VPN, is there no way I can configure apt-get to go through another server to install packages on my server from the internet?11:14
letstrythisis there a macos emulation for ubuntu?11:15
MagicBenunless you apt them from the cdrom wich in this case well hunt down the depency from the cds, using dpkg you will have to install everything needed first11:15
wasanzyMagicBen: was that directed to me?11:16
Deepfriedicewasanzy, Probably. apt-cdrom is a good idea anyway.11:17
MagicBenyes wasanzy11:17
y4nsthanks for help...11:18
trijntje!patience | y4ns11:18
ubottuy4ns: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/11:18
MagicBenwithout internet, apt from cdrom is the probably the best idea, well if you have physical access to the server and a reader on it for anyways11:18
wasanzyso in this case, I have to download the full ubuntu server image onto  DVD and insert it into the server and use apt-cdrom to install the needed packages? does the full server image come with all needed package?11:19
MagicBenthe full DVD iso should come with all the needed packages yes11:19
wasanzyMagicBen: ok thank you. Can you point me to the full dvd iso? ubuntu server 12.0411:20
ActionParsnip!download11:22
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Trusty, and help keeping the servers' load low!11:22
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MagicBenwanzy http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/11:25
MagicBenwow split11:25
y4nsbye bye11:26
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ZyraxAnyone here that can help me to figure out how to do a script that will query a webpage and measure the loadtime... I haven't found anything that to that. The complete rendering time of a webpage including scripts...11:27
wasanzywhich versions are the alternate versions?11:27
SohronZyrax: developer tools maybe have something for firefox11:28
Deepfriedicewasanzy, The alternate versions all have "alternate" in the name.11:28
Sohronit's not an ubuntu question Zyrax11:28
Sohron!ot | Zyrax11:29
Sohrondamned :p11:29
ZyraxSohron: Yes, there is, but I would like to script it...11:29
DeepfriediceZyrax, That sounds like something you'd have to get from the browser, not Ubuntu.11:29
wasanzyDeepfriedice: yea and am asking, should I download that for my purpose?11:29
ZyraxDeepfriedice: Yes, I know, but since there seem to be a lot of knowledge her I tried to ask in #ubuntu anyway. ;)11:30
SohronZyrax: you can script firefox with javascript or what the hell11:30
Deepfriedicewasanzy, I'm afraid I don't actually know what packages are on each of the images. You might be best off just pulling the DVD.11:31
Sohronbut it's not an ubuntu question Zyrax11:31
wasanzymy machine is x86_64 but I can find only AMD64 and i36811:31
ZyraxSohron: Ok, sorry for being off topic then.11:32
letstrythisthats cause 64 is amd11:32
cfhowlettwasanzy x86_64 is the package you want11:32
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ActionParsnipwasanzy: AMD64 ewill run on 64bit Intels too11:32
letstrythisx85_64 is inttel11:33
Deepfriedicewasanzy, "AMD64" and "x86_64" are the same thing.11:33
letstrythiscorrect11:33
wasanzyok11:33
wasanzythe DVD is 1.6G? I want to be sure am downloading the correct thing11:34
philinuxit's just a very old throwback to naming conventions11:34
Deepfriedicewasanzy, Yeah, that's it. Personally, I'd get the torrent, but either works.11:35
philinuxwasanzy;~ although your machine is 64 bit are u actually running the 64 bit os?11:35
wasanzyphilinux: yes Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-29-generic x86_6411:36
philinuxwasanzy;~ ok then you need the amd64 version11:36
zmotokdear all, anyone has an idea why on Ubuntu Quantal x64, the 'search foo.bar' line in /etc/resolv.conf is not honored when resolving the fqdn of a hostname (with `hostname -f` or `domainname`) ? thank you!11:36
Armag3dd0n1what's better, 14.04 or 12.04.4?11:36
Armag3dd0n1which is more stable?11:37
cfhowlettArmag3dd0n1 both are supported. both work.  choose for yourself.11:37
letstrythis12.1011:37
Armag3dd0n1best for battery life?11:37
cfhowlett!eol|letstrythis11:37
ubottuletstrythis: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades11:37
gaczmotok: because you're addressing two different things, the "search" line only tells the DNS resolver what to do if you pass it an unqualified hostname11:37
DeepfriediceArmag3dd0n1, 14.04 is probably the better choice, but it's still quite new.11:37
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ 14.04.1 comes out soon11:37
letstrythisit also depends on what  version your software supports and  gets supported11:37
Ben64Armag3dd0n1: 14.04 is newer, better support for hardware, and has 5 years of support left. will also have newer packages and be more focused on in the coming years11:38
zmotokgac: ok, then, where should the domain name be set?11:38
Armag3dd0n112.04.4 suppose to be more stable according to google :/11:38
DeepfriediceFor battery life, I'd probably take 14.04. The newer kernel means it will probably have better support for power-saving features.11:38
ActionParsnip12.04 is more stable and mature as it is older11:39
letstrythisuh most lts packs are good on hw support right11:39
zmotokgac: the exact same resolv.conf configuration works under Debian Squeeze (same release timeframe as Quantal)11:39
gobblerwhy is the libv8-dev package on 13.10 based on a v8 version from 2012?11:39
Armag3dd0n1ugh11:39
Ben64Armag3dd0n1: go for 14.04, you'll be happy11:39
gaczmotok: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158957/how-to-set-the-fully-qualified-domain-name-in-12-0411:39
Armag3dd0n1can i upgrade from 12 to 14?11:39
Ben64Armag3dd0n1: yes, but upgrades aren't always smooth11:40
DeepfriediceArmag3dd0n1, Yes, but it's not fun.11:40
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ not until 14.04.1 comes out in july11:40
Armag3dd0n1oh god damn11:40
letstrythisArmag3dd0n1:  you dont need to choose really you can get both and switch between fir whats best etc11:40
gaci upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 with virtually no problems, personally11:40
gacbut that was on a HTPC so only has one specific use11:40
DeepfriediceArmag3dd0n1, What do you actually want to do?11:40
gacnot a general purpose machine11:40
Armag3dd0n1browse the net and have best batterry lol11:41
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ you'll be prompted in July when the point release come sout11:41
Deepfriedice14.0411:41
cfhowlettgac my 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade was as smooth as a baby's bottom.11:41
zmotokgac: thanks, saw that earlier on, but it's not a good solution for deployable images; and as I said, I was surprised that the same setup didn't work between equivallent debian/ubuntu releases11:42
gaczmotok: even on debian, the resolv.conf file should only affect the behaviour of the DNS resolver11:42
gacare you sure you had no other differences?11:42
zmotokgac: yep, I'm sure11:42
gacodd11:43
DeepfriediceArmag3dd0n1, At this point, the pain of 12.04's age is probably worse than the pain of 14.04's newness.11:43
zmotokgac: will go try some different things, thanks for your time :)11:43
Ben64i agree with Deepfriedice. i'm on 12.04 only because i don't want to  have to deal with the upgrade and stuff breaking11:44
* cfhowlett is awaiting until 14.04.1 to install 11:44
[lutchy]heheehe11:46
[lutchy]hehehe11:46
basd82hi all11:47
basd82i am prepairing a ubuntu mirror for out local release party in the NL11:47
basd82can some one tell if the archive.ubuntu.com contains all updates include the ones serverd by security.ubuntu.com11:48
[lutchy]basd82, You want a local store ?11:48
basd82I made local mirror with apt-mirror11:48
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[lutchy]Uh huh ?11:49
[lutchy]What not just make your like store up2date ?11:49
[lutchy]s/like/local/11:49
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basd82You dont understand11:50
basd82I made copy nl.archive using apt-mirror11:50
bnghi all, don't you know hot to change the ALT key to META key for moving and resizing windows in 14.04?11:50
basd82my question does nl.archive have same content as archive.ubuntu.com11:50
basd82i mean security.ubuntu.com11:51
[lutchy]I understand your question, but that question is too specific for me to answer11:51
[lutchy]but since you were keeping a mirror, I am not sure why not keep doing what you were doing11:51
basd82I want to know if also need to get coppy of security.ubuntu.com11:52
Armag3dd0n1going to upgrade now :)11:52
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ make sure you got stuff backed up11:53
[lutchy]ok basd8211:53
Armag3dd0n1i know :p11:53
philinuxgood one11:53
Armag3dd0n1is it a good idea moving over from xp to ubuntu?11:53
Armag3dd0n1some of my family are still on xp :/11:53
[lutchy]basd82, I would ask in the mailing list11:54
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ no security updates now although they did patch the browser11:54
cfhowlettArmag3dd0n1 ubuntu is supported.  xp isn't.  do the math.11:54
Armag3dd0n1:P11:54
arcskyrequirements for ubuntu 14.04 lts server where can i find them?11:54
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ try them with Lubuntu11:54
philinuxor Xubuntu11:55
* Yelu Armag3dd0n1 has vanished to install Ubuntu all over the place11:55
philinuxI wish i could just hide join messages11:56
sawsuhyou can11:56
sawsuhon xchat11:56
philinuxsawsuh;~ join and part only11:56
sawsuhoh11:57
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centor_How do i configure the httpd.conf folder to another hard drive?12:00
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ibuclawHi - I've got two machines, and both are giving differing ps outputs12:11
ibuclawon one:  ps -acx  ->  apache212:11
ibuclawon the other: ps -acx  ->  /usr/sbin/apach12:12
ibuclawmd5sums are identical: 00d151cefd4cc3f4586444e2b31503b6  /bin/ps12:12
ibuclawso there's something environmental going on that I can't work out12:13
Roryibuclaw: is the output of "which ps" the same on each machine?12:13
ibuclawof course12:13
geirhait's ''type ps'' that matters.12:13
Roryibuclaw: is /usr/sbin/apach a typo?12:13
ibuclawRory, no, it's truncated by ps12:14
ibuclawto..... 15 characters12:14
geirhaIt's truncated in the process table, by linux12:14
ibuclawgeirha, ps is hashed (/bin/ps)12:15
jesskI have Saucy and 1G1 free on my SSD. Is this enough for do-release-upgrade to Trusty?12:15
ibuclawgeirha, and same linux kernel running on both (3.2.0-52-generic)12:15
Roryjessk: Any way you can free up some disk space first? Use something like bleachbit12:16
Roryjessk: I think it's enough, but you wouldn't want to run out of space partway through12:16
jesskRory: It's a 16G0 SSD with 2 operating systems on. It will hard to free space.12:17
compdoc16G? sheese12:17
jessk16G0 would be fine except for that the fact that I have two OS12:18
compdocyou can find 60/64G ssds on sale quite often12:18
juliethi12:18
jesskIt's soldered to the mainboard.12:18
geirhaibuclaw: what if you use some saner ps options, like ps -ef ?12:18
geirhaibuclaw: though really, it's more about how the apache process gets started12:19
Guest2413please i want to install zealdocs on my computer..12:19
Guest2413when i do this  add-apt-repository ppa:jerzy-kozera/zeal-ppa12:19
cfhowlett!ppa|Guest241312:20
ubottuGuest2413: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:20
jesskIf I connect a SDCard is there some way to get the ubuntu update process to use the additional space?12:20
ibuclawgeirha, that's no good to me. :)12:20
Guest2413this is what it tell me ||||||||||   The program 'add-apt-repository' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:12:20
Guest2413apt-get install python-software-properties12:20
Guest2413 add-apt-repository ppa:jerzy-kozera/zeal-ppa12:20
RoryGuest2413: What is the output of the command "cat /etc/issue" ?12:20
ibuclawps is being invoked through SNMP and expects the output to be the basename12:21
ibuclawgeirha, as for the invocation - the init scripts are identical12:21
ibuclawgo figure!12:21
Guest2413Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l12:21
philinuxGuest2413;~ install the software it's recommending12:21
Guest2413<Rory>12:21
RoryGuest2413: Read the error message you get12:21
Guest2413<philinux> what software..12:21
jesskGuest2413: I am not sure why you need a PPA to update apt. What did you install?12:22
geirhaibuclaw: but possibly one has spawned child processes where the other hasn't..?12:22
RoryGuest2413: It tells you what to type12:22
RoryGuest2413: What was the error you got?12:22
Guest2413 <jessk> zeal docs12:22
RoryGuest2413: The program 'add-apt-repository' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: apt-get install python-software-properties12:22
RoryGuest2413: That's what you told me. Why doesn't that work?12:22
Guest2413add-apt-repository ppa:jerzy-kozera/zeal-ppa     <Rory>12:22
RoryGuest2413: Read the error message you get, and run the command it tells you to run12:23
yossarianukifco12:23
ibuclawgeirha, thought of that - nope either12:23
Guest2413<Rory> please issues the command again....12:23
RoryGuest2413: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties12:23
ibuclawapache packages differ - one is mpm-prefork and the other mpm-worker.12:23
ibuclawswitching did not help12:24
Guest2413root@ubilli-pc /v/l/apt# sudo apt-get install python-software-properties12:24
Guest2413Reading package lists... Done12:24
Guest2413Building dependency tree12:24
Guest2413Reading state information... Done12:24
Guest2413python-software-properties is already the newest version.12:24
Guest2413The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:12:24
unopasteGuest2413 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted12:24
jesus_tracertHi guys, i am having trouble running a gnome2 (gtk2) in unity, its not displaying in the top right corner.12:24
RoryGuest2413: Now run: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jerzy-kozera/zeal-ppa12:24
KGM70Hi12:25
geirhaibuclaw: Don't know, then. Why does it matter anyway?12:25
ActionParsnipGuest2413: what is teh output of:  cat /etc/issue12:25
RoryActionParsnip: 12.0412:25
ActionParsnipGuest2413: nm, looked up12:25
ActionParsnip:)12:25
Guest2413Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l12:25
RoryGuest2413: Now run: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jerzy-kozera/zeal-ppa12:26
ActionParsnip!info python-software-properties12:26
ubottupython-software-properties (source: software-properties): manage the repositories that you install software from. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.92.37 (trusty), package size 19 kB, installed size 134 kB12:26
ActionParsnipGuest2413: doyou have the universe repo activated?12:26
Guest2413output     |||||  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jerzy-kozera/zeal-ppa12:26
Guest2413<ActionParsnip>12:26
Guest2413i do not get...12:27
ActionParsnipGuest2413: do you have the universe repor enabled?12:27
RoryGuest2413: Now run: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jerzy-kozera/zeal-ppa12:27
RoryGuest2413: What output do you get?12:27
ActionParsnipGuest2413: what is the output of:   grep -i universe /etc/apt/sources.list12:27
trijntjeActionParsnip: he has so many ppa's enabled its a minor miracle his pc still boots12:27
Guest2413sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found12:27
jesskSo now I have 1G3 space free. Is that enough for do-release-update or how do I get that program to use an SDCard?12:27
ActionParsniptrijntje: i bet, users love PPAs12:27
Roryjessk: 13G?12:27
ActionParsnipGuest2413: what is the output of:   grep -i universe /etc/apt/sources.list12:27
trash__salve galera..12:28
jesskRory: 1G312:28
Guest2413deb http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe12:28
Guest2413deb-src http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe12:28
Guest2413deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy universe multiverse12:28
Guest2413deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy universe multiverse12:28
Guest2413deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-updates universe multiverse12:28
Guest2413deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-updates universe multiverse12:28
trash__bom dia.. em que poemos compartilhar..12:28
Roryjessk: what is a G3?12:28
unopasteGuest2413 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted12:28
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ActionParsnipGuest2413: why do you have saucy lines in sources.list, when you are using Precise?12:28
ActionParsniptrijntje: it gets even better12:29
jesskRory: 1G3 is how you write 1.3G if you were trained in certain engineering domains12:29
Guest2413well i use 12.0412:29
ActionParsnipGuest2413: then why the saucy lines in sources.list12:29
ActionParsnipGuest2413: you have added those in and now you have a frankenstein OS12:29
Guest2413<ActionParsnip>  i dont know...12:30
RoryGuest2413: I recommend backing up your home directory, doing a clean installation of 14.04, and copying across the backup12:30
Armag3dd0n1all done, any tweaks I should do?12:30
Guest2413but i have files in my 12.0412:30
Armag3dd0n114.04 with all latest updates :p12:30
jesus_tracertIts a gnome2 app and im trying to run it unity. the icon isnt showing up. ive installed all the indicators and cannot work it out.12:30
cfhowlettGuest2413 you might want to rebuild/replace your source list:  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php12:31
jesskjesus_tracert: you are missing an icon in the global menu bar?12:31
cfhowlettGuest2413 or, as Rory suggested; clean install.12:32
jesus_tracert jessk yeah i think so. you mean the bar next to the clock12:32
Guest2413does that mean deleteing all my files...???12:32
ibuclawgeirha, snmp monitoring.  =)12:32
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jesskjesus_tracert: OK, yes. What would be the system tray in windows. Ubuntu doesn't install libappindicator and many gnome apps need this to display an icon there. Have you checked your app needs that?12:32
ActionParsnipGuest2413: you will have made a backup if your files are important....right12:32
jesus_tracertjessk, thats installed already12:33
jesskbackup schmackup, i printed screenshots of my information and posted them to myself12:33
jesskjesus_tracert: OK, that's *usually* the problem there but you have it already. I wonder if unity still uses a whitelist for app indicators?12:34
RoryGuest2413: I recommend backing up your home directory, doing a clean installation of 14.04, and copying across the backup12:35
jesus_tracertjessk, how do i do that12:35
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Guest2413<Rory>  me n that is hard..12:35
jesskGuest2413: When do you a backup, make sure you know where all your data is. Not all of it is in /home, or can be simply restored: it might need to be exported from the program in some format e.g. browser bookmarks12:35
Guest2413is there a safe backup on ubuntu...12:36
ActionParsnipGuest2413: plug in a USB drive, copy your data to it12:37
jesskjesus_tracert: I don't know, I was wondering to myself if it was an appmenu whitelist issue, but I don;t think unity has that anymore12:37
KGM70!backup | Guest241312:37
ubottuGuest2413: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:37
Armag3dd0n1I'm just doing this, any other tweaks I should do????? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html12:37
Mega2can any tell me why my server is flooding the network12:37
jesskjesus_tracert: You did relog/reboot after installing libappindicator?12:38
jesskMega2: Can you tell us something about your server and what it is flooding?12:38
jesus_tracertjessk, yes i have. :)12:38
Mega2ubuntu 10.0412:38
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Armag3dd0n1any other tweaks?12:39
RoryMega2: How do you know it's flooding the network?12:39
jesskMega2: How do you know it is flooding? What are you seeing it sending?12:39
jesus_tracertjessk, i get no errors running from the terminal, if i knew the error.12:39
Mega2i bought a firewall and it tells me12:39
RoryMega2: Does it say what type of traffic it is?12:40
Mega2all the traffic is comming from my server12:40
RoryMega2: You could install the "nethogs" package which breaks down bandwidth-use by process12:40
jesskMega2: Telling you what exactly? "Flooding" is quite an ambigous term12:40
centor_How do i move the htdocs folder to another hard drive (using xampp)12:41
yanpennhow to color the terminal?12:42
yanpennit's all black and white12:42
Roryyanpenn: What colour what you like it to be?12:42
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ not used any tweaks. battery life fine here. acer 1410. Only thing i do is reduce the brightness a bit12:42
Roryyanpenn: edit->profile preferences12:42
jessk_grr machine just went down :-( i knows it's drivers but not which one!12:43
jessk_i *think* it's the trackpad driver. Ah well.12:43
Rorycentor_: I told you earlier. Just move the folder over to the other hard drive as normal, and then update your apache configuration in /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default to point to the new location instead of the old one12:43
Armag3dd0n1what's your battery like?12:43
jesus_tracertmight work if i hit it with a hammer12:44
centor_Rory should i configure the httpd.conf?12:44
Mega2this is what it tels me -2014/05/08 12:08:50 -- [DOS][Block][syn_flood, timeout=10][192.168.0.100:50435->122.228.244.220:53][TCP][HLen=20, TLen=1010, Flag=S, Seq=1951915090, Ack=0, Win=61402]12:44
jessk_Mega2: In my opinion, syn flood is benign and can be ignored however not my fault if you get hacked to death . :-)12:45
yanpennRory, I mean the colour the command line,too many line that hard to disguise12:45
jessk_Mega2: Looks to be an over-sensitive firewall, i would guess.12:45
Mega2no as my network was slowing down i get the firewall to find out why12:46
Radon_3guys, I just happened to read this and rule #2 in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity#The_most_basic_set_of_rules says that you shouldn't install antivirus on ubuntu, but I have so far installed comodo (removed it today, is it any good?), clamav (still have it + clamtk), and also bitdefender for unices, should I remove all of them?12:47
Rorycentor_: Usually you would put sites in their own configuration files. Check if there are files in /etc/apache2/sites-available/12:47
jessk_Mega2: I've seen a lot of home firewalls mis-identify regular dns traffic as port 53 syn-flood, it's due to something with Udp and states that i don't quite understand. Do you have bitrorrent running btw?12:47
Roryyanpenn: I don't really understand what you mean by "colour the command line" to be honest... you can change the text and background colours12:47
Roryyanpenn: Many command-line applications like ls have coloured output as well12:47
Mega2no12:48
letstrythiscomodo is good but gives feds access to their databases and remote services12:48
Radon_3letstrythis: even after i have removed it?12:48
letstrythisantiv and fw is essential but linux does have muc12:48
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Mega2but that is not port 5312:48
RoryMega2: Did you try the "nethogs" application?12:49
letstrythisRadon_3:  you shoul be ok, comodo in windows uninstalled completely12:49
jessk_Mega2: You can try also asking  #networking or perhaps #;inux.12:50
letstrythisid assume it did for linux12:50
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jesus_tracertanyone else had trouble running gnome2 gtk2 apps in the 14.04 unity global menu bar.12:50
Radon_3letstrythis: do you happen to know if bitdeffender and clamav+clamtk have any fault points or not?12:50
Mega2i have now12:50
letstrythisi wish i knew more about linux as to know where to lok for reminants of software if any12:51
RoryMega2: Did you identify a single process producing a lot of traffic?12:51
red45923on xubuntu 12.04, checked save session when i logged out, login and screen is a mess, want to kill session so i logged out unchecked save session, but session returned again, question is how to kill current session so reboot starts afresh?12:51
jessk_Mega2: I know that's port 53 but it's a common cause of that problem; when you have too many peers connected12:51
Mega2there is a lot of pid as 012:51
Mega2with user root12:51
Roryred45923: They're saved in $HOME/.cache/sessions12:51
letstrythisclam isnt updated anymore afaik...spybot search and destroy is where clam originated, good stuff it was, not sure now...it was sold to others12:52
RoryMega2: Yes but it arranges them by traffic, did you see one obvious application sending a lot of data?12:52
red45923thanks Rory, deleted them, reboot next, fingers crossed12:53
letstrythisbitdefender i've only used online scans, i don't kno it well12:53
jesus_tracertHi12:53
letstrythisanyone know more about clamav?12:53
cfhowlett!clamav12:54
cfhowlett!info clamav12:54
ubottuclamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.98.1+dfsg-4ubuntu1.1 (trusty), package size 78 kB, installed size 599 kB12:54
Mega2i can let you have a look if you want12:54
Mega2but all the ones sent 0.200 but there is loads of them12:55
jessk_Mega2: You may also want to try ##networking12:55
Mega2from different ports12:55
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Mega2where can i find some one to look for me12:56
RoryMega2: What sort of traffic is it? What rates are you seeing flooding your network?12:57
RoryMega2: What is your firewall actually saying?12:57
RoryMega2: (Not your interpretation of it, what is the literal thing it is saying?)12:58
red45923cool that worked Rory, checking save session when logging out of xubuntu made things go a little crazy when i logged back in, back to normal now, my first try at sessions did not go well :)12:58
Mega2all of then are now 0.200 kb but there is loads of connections12:58
Roryred45923: Well you know where they're saved now12:58
RoryMega2: What is your firewall actually saying that made you think there was an issue in the first place?12:59
red45923such an innocous looking checkbox on the logout screen, who knew what could happen, not me thats for sure :)13:00
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demozdoes anyone know how can i telnet from one of local ip addrese ? for example i have 2 ips x.x.x.1 and x.x.x.3 and i want to telnet from ip 3 to for example 178.x.x.x...13:00
Mega2in the first place i had no firewall but the server crash and i rebuild it and then every time i turn on the server the network go down13:01
ActionParsnipdemoz: you will need to set a route to 178.0.0.0/8 down the interface with the .3 on13:08
slovnhowhow to write PM in IRC?13:09
demozActionParsnip thank you :)13:09
browndawgCan I update an Ubuntu machine offline if I have just performed a system upgrade on another one? Maybe copy /var/cache/apt/archives to the other machine? Is that a good idea?13:10
browndawgI'm on a crappy connection, performing a full upgrade twice is a pain.13:10
Mega2does any know what /etc/sfewfesfs is and should it be running13:11
Roryslovn: /q Rory13:11
RoryMega2: That's malware delivered to old, unpatched webservers13:12
Mega2how do i get rid of it13:12
RoryMega2: Safest is a complete wipe and reinstall13:12
browndawgBoth machines are running ubuntu 14.04. One I just performed a full update on. The other is a fresh install.13:13
RoryMega2: It's part of the "BillGates" botnet which has a massive number of rootkit things13:13
bgardnerbrowndawg: You're kind of on the wrong side of it since you already did it once, but you should look at one of the apt-proxy or squid solutions for deb caching.13:13
philinuxbrowndawg;~ seem to remember something called keryx for that. not sure if its' still maintained though maybe someone else will chime in13:14
philinuxbrowndawg;~ also check out aptoncd13:15
philinuxhttp://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/13:15
DammitJimcan someone help me with: Err http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse Sources13:15
DammitJim  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]13:15
DammitJimI get that when I do an apt-get update13:16
RoryDammitJim: Can you please run these commands and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com - cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ; sudo apt-get update13:17
jakobbgis there a page listing known gotchas upgrading from 12.04 lts -> 14.04 lts?13:18
Roryjakobbg: There shouldn't be any "gotchas"13:19
Picijakobbg: likely not, as the upgrade path is not open until 14.04.1 is released.13:19
Roryjakobbg: Generally as long as you stick to using packages from the official repositories, your upgrade should be smooth13:19
TJ-jakobbg: They are called "Release Notes" and will be at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes13:20
DammitJimThanks Rory , here we go13:20
sobczyk__hi, after upgrade from saucy to trusty my static network interfaces fail to start, how to diagnose the problem?13:21
jakobbggreat. i just wanted to "read up" and track issues before 14.04.1 is relased. my sources.list only contains ubuntu-stuff. but i have installed oracle java, and rely heavily on ldap, java, tomcat and confluence to work on top of that.13:21
DammitJimhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7415992/13:21
DammitJimsomething is odd about that command, Rory13:22
BarrytheboyHi I am a complete novice with Ubuntu and terminal but I've recently upgraded to 14.04 and I'm having problem with what I think is my graphics card drivers, I change them as my dual display was not working correctly so I tried to put the graphics back to previous version where it worked fine but then when I restarted PC I could not see anything but a apple logo? I was able to use terminal and used sudo apt-get instal13:22
Barrytheboyl nvidia current to get back into the OS but since windows freeze when I minimise them causing the computer to freeze also my second display is still all wrong?13:22
KGM70sobczyk__, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart13:23
sobczyk__KGM70: it just returns status 113:24
Barrytheboy?13:25
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pdo_fn14Uhh, using HUD and Unity become buggy now.13:26
KGM70sobczyk__, try sudo dhclient eth0 for ethernet or sudo dhclient wlan0 for wifi13:26
Barrytheboyhas anyone come across my problem before?13:26
ubuntuser13barrytheboy: on boot menu ,edit ubuntu os line and remove quiet-splash  press f10 to boot13:26
Barrytheboy@ubuntuser13 Please could to give me step by steps i'm not very good13:27
Barrytheboyfor example is the boot menu like bios13:27
cyberalex4lifehello13:27
sobczyk__KGM70: they're static interfaces, it's a server, thus no dhcp13:28
sobczyk__I can set the address and routes using 'ip' tool13:28
cyberalex4lifeI don't know how to install correctly programs in /opt : meaning that if I own them to me they work, but otherwise they don't13:28
cyberalex4lifeis there something that I have to do to  make them run even if they are owned by root13:29
cyberalex4life?13:29
ubuntuser13barrytheboy: reboot your pc and on boot menu in which you see ubuntu os  understand or not bios is not boot menu.13:29
pdo_fn14Like when rhythmbox playing music, just type "info" when window rhythmbox and HUD are active nothing to do.13:30
KGM70sobczyk__, it should still work, unless your  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base isn't setup13:30
ubuntuser13i will  instruct you step by step.13:30
Barrytheboythanks13:31
ubuntuser13barrytheboy: are you using dual boot like ubuntu and windows13:31
Barrytheboyyes13:31
KGM70sobczyk__, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base overwrites /etc/resolv.conf despite the warning in the base file13:31
hkraal_So apache2 won't run as root under 14.04 (I'm aware of the risks) without specifing "-DBIG_SECURITY_HOLE" in the CFLAGS parameter during compile. I've tried the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb doing "export CFLAGS='-DBIG_SECURITY_HOLE'" before I got started but it's being ignored... why?13:32
module000was 'suspend_hybrid' removed from the pm-utils in 14.04? it's not a valid value to set in $METHOD anymore. anyone know why? (google almost does, but not quite)13:32
Barrytheboy@ubuntuser13 yes13:32
eisenknurrenblub13:33
ubuntuser13so it's simple ,now boot menu is from which you boot either ubuntu or windows.so on ubuntu boot line press e to edit13:33
smitI want to install vlc player on my ubuntu can some one tell me how to do it ?13:34
ubuntuser13smit: you can install it from ubuntu software center13:35
DammitJimRory, here it is with sudo apt-get update13:35
DammitJimhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7416059/13:35
Playersmit: press ctrl+alt+t, type sudo apt-get install vlc13:35
pdo_fn14smit: or sudo apt-get install vlc13:35
prepangolinWhich irc channel consult with Unity?13:35
Radon_3folks, i can't login to ubuntu wiki using my ubuntu one account13:35
smitpdo_fn14, Thanks :)13:36
ubuntuser13barrytheboy: ?13:36
Barrytheboy@ubuntuser13 reboot my computer I think if I hold esc is opens which os I want to open then I choose boot menu edit and then type quiet-splash13:36
Radon_3should I go to another channel or this is the place?13:36
aaa801So, just setup a mail server etc on a box, added the spf record for google, any more i need to add so my mails don't get spammed ?, its going to be used for forum management (lost pws, reg emails etc)13:36
prepangolinwhere is my question going?13:36
RoryDammitJim: Remove the line "deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security multiverse13:36
prepangolinanyone help?13:36
Radon_3sorry, problem solved13:36
Radon_3had to wait only, for a few minutes13:37
Roryprepangolin: Just ask your question in here and wait to see if someone can help you13:37
Radon_3ubuntu wiki is not editable???13:37
ubuntuser13barrytheboy: edit ubuntu os  line in boot  menu .13:38
Radon_3by public?13:38
Radon_3I have found a tiny error in it13:38
prepangolinRory I want to know which irc channel consult with Unity project?13:38
Roryprepangolin: If you have a support question just ask it here13:38
Barrytheboy@ubuntuser sorry I've no idea what that is or what it looks like13:38
prepangolinOkay13:39
Rory!ot | prepangolin13:39
ubottuprepangolin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:39
prepangolinI want to know the some problems related with unity-2d.13:39
RoryOK, describe your problems13:40
Rory!details13:40
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)13:40
prepangolinUnity-2d dropped as for Ubuntu12.10 you know.13:40
tillbaksis rc.local executed before autofs is started?13:40
prepangolinRory: I want to know how to backport this feature to 12.04. Have you idea?13:42
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Roryprepangolin: 12.04 does have unity-2d13:42
prepangolinyeah.13:43
prepangolinunity-2d dropped in 12.10.13:43
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Roryyes13:43
prepangolinDo you know the llvmpipe.13:43
cfhowlettprepangolin the fact that it was dropped suggests that backporting it is unlikely to ahppen13:44
Armag3dd0n1how can i make tlp change to battery mode when not on ac?13:44
Roryprepangolin: Does your graphics card not support Unity?13:44
prepangolinIn Vmware. It absolutely does.13:45
prepangolinRory: No, it's my fault13:45
VinnyceptrIn the hope off topic is allowed here...13:46
Rory!ot | Vinnyceptr13:46
ubottuVinnyceptr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:46
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Vinnyceptr:)13:46
Armag3dd0n1anyone?13:46
prepangolinRory: on Vmware 12.10 It supports13:46
Roryprepangolin: What actual problem are you having?13:46
DammitJimthanks Rory , what is that entry for? Why don't I need it?13:47
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DammitJimI want this server to be rock solid. It only has 1 purpose and that is to do health monitoring of DB2 (I'm using IBMs software)13:47
prepangolinRory: I want to consult with the Unity Developers about this problem.13:47
cfhowlett!contribute|prepangolin13:48
ubottuprepangolin: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu13:48
DammitJimso, I don't want to be updating to stuff that isn't supported or that I don't need because it's bleeding edge... I mean, DB2 is far from bleeding edge ;)13:48
prepangolinOn there how can I? I dont know my way at there.13:49
Piciprepangolin: what exactly do you hope to accomplish with your chat with the developers? remember that it was dropped two years ago.13:50
kamal_Was anyone able to configure lightdm to use libpam-poldi? I tried adding it to /etc/pam.d/ligthdm (the exact same line I used in /etc/pam.d/sudo which works just fine) but it just ignores it and skips to the next rule (it's set to "sufficient" not "required")13:50
prepangolinPici: I know.13:50
mustmodifyIs there a command that will allow me to watch a directory to see which files change?13:52
mustmodifylike watch_dir_for_changes .13:52
SASDOEhey all, can I set ssh-PAM to require two step verification only if the users logs in via password, and not if using keys. Is this possible?13:52
mustmodifyand then it would just list files as they change13:52
prepangolinPici: I want to know how to backport 12.10's feature to 12.04 by myself. But I dont know exactly what do i do.13:52
prepangolinSo I want ask my question directly.13:53
Roryprepangolin: You should learn programming, learn packaging, learn systems administration13:53
cfhowlettprepangolin https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu   no shortage of options to contribute13:53
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prepangolinI already know about that. I'm 6 year old linux developer.13:53
prepangolinExaclty, I want to know Unity-2d -> Unity migration.13:54
Rorymustmodify: you could just do "watch ls /path/to/directory"13:55
prepangolinRory: chfowlett: Will u do me a favor?13:56
prepangolincfhowlett: Help me. Teach me.13:56
mustmodifyRory: OK I'll try that thanks.13:57
cfhowlettprepangolin "6 year linux developer" ...   right?13:57
prepangolinYeah.13:57
cfhowlettprepangolin http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks13:58
prepangolincfhowlett: But I don't know about ubuntu so much but about rpm distros.13:58
cfhowlettprepangolin best I can do.13:58
prepangolincfhowlett: Really? Good. How can?13:58
dave20"6 year linux developer" where? in Red Hat?13:59
cfhowlettprepangolin again: go to the link I sent to contribute.  choose something you can contribute to.  join the project.  keep ears/eyes open.13:59
prepangolinNo, Do you know Hongqi Linux?13:59
dave20!contribute | prepangolin14:00
ubottuprepangolin: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu14:00
cfhowlettprepangolin https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2ibhkveoz3mu742/AAB6Wg40mgv_ijhFrMlcE4yla14:00
dave20oh RPM just confused me,14:01
cfhowlettprepangolin no links found for hongqi linux.  China project???14:01
prepangolinYeah hongqi linux is chinese14:02
dave20and it uses RPM?14:02
cfhowlettprepangolin I think I've got something for you: ubuntukylin14:02
cfhowlett!ubuntukylin14:03
ubottuUbuntu Kylin is a variant of Ubuntu that focuses on Chinese users. It is a formal part of Ubuntu. For more information, see http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntukylin14:03
cfhowlettprepangolin note: this is an official canonical supported distro.  They'd love your input.14:03
prepangolinThanks for kindness.14:03
cfhowlettprepangolin are you in China?14:03
prepangolinYeah, I'm chinese.14:03
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cfhowlettprepangolin I'm in Beijing: beijing linux user group.  Probably a linux group near you if you're in a tier 1 or 2 city.14:04
prepangolincfhowlett: are you chinese too?14:05
cfhowlettprepangolin laowai.  sorry.  don't even speak chinese.14:05
codechefHi everyone @ ubuntu14:05
prepangolincfhowlett: How can I enjoy ton beijing linux user group?14:06
cfhowlettprepangolin go to PM ...14:06
prepangolincfhowlett: are you available?14:08
cfhowlettprepangolin  http://beijinglug.org/14:08
codechefI would like to know if anyone here can help me with a boot up issue Im having with ubuntu 12 i beleive, with KDE and a new monitor (*without access to my old monitor) -- the resolution set on my KDE was for 2 monitors and at something like 1280x1362 -- anyhow my new monitor cannot display this resolution and what im encountering is upon boot up i get a blank screen with a box floating around my monitor saying cannot display, ive14:08
codecheftried ctrl+alt+f# to drop to cmd line but i think the reso there is also too high because nothing changes and I cannot access cmd line to even make changes. So as it sits im on the computer in question with a LiveUSB of GNOME3 and I am wondering if anyone can help me through resetting the config for my KDE14:08
red45923using xubuntu 12.04, resizing windows by dragging the edge, it works but you got to be so precise, is there a setting to make the hotspot larger?14:09
dave20!xubuntu | red4592314:10
ubottured45923: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels14:10
PlayerHi, I have a VPS running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with vncserver on it, whenever I start it up things seem to be fine and dandy.  I get a few things running, do updates, and whatnot then leave it.  For example I left it last night, when I try to log in this morning it gives me the message "Too many security failures!"  I logged onto the server with PuTTY and looked in ~/.vnc/, opened the log with mono and I see my connection being listed as 0.0.0.0:s14:10
Playeromeobscureport, then sometime around the middle of the night there was 0.0.0.0:anotherobscureport trying to log in, but failing to do so. This has been an issue for about two weeks now..  Anyone have any ideas?14:10
codechef!Ubuntu14:10
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com14:10
whoeverred45923: are you saying that t drag the window at it's corner you have to be right on top of it , and you would prefer to just be in the general area to start dragging ?14:10
red45923ok dave20  but exactly the same happens in ubuntu so the question is still valid here14:10
ShtlHello all i have 8 GB usb stick, but unable to format it, every time it shows write protected can any one help me to fix it plz?14:11
red45923whoever, you know how you resize a window with the mouse14:11
dave20red45923, sorry to say, but Xubuntu and Ubuntu don't use the same Window Manager14:11
red45923you go to the edge and get that little arrow icon14:11
robjlorangerShtl: is there a little switch on it? that 'locks' the drive14:11
red45923press and drag to resize the window14:11
red45923using ubuntu the cursor has to be so precise on an edge14:12
whoeverred45923: is there a specific reason why you would want to do this?14:12
robjlorangerred45923: it's not that precise14:12
ActionParsnipdave20: not by default, but you can run xfwin4 instead of compiz if you desire14:12
whoeverred45923: ie: accessability14:12
SASDOEDoes no one know how to implement a conditional `required` in pam-ssh based on method of authentication?14:12
red45923whoever, because i use it all the time to resize windows14:13
red45923whoever, my machine it seems to be a hotspot that is way smaller than on mswindows14:13
red45923so i expect some place there is a setting to make the hotspot larger, and that is what i am asking14:14
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robjlorangerred45923: there is no setting as i am aware, it would be coded in. you could try other window managers?14:14
Armag3dd0n1can i idle here?14:14
whoeverred45923: yes, to drag the corner in linux you have to be right ontop of the lower corner , and ms windows you can be a little behind that14:15
red45923yes whoever, there is a big difference between the tolderance on windows and what i have used on ubuntu/xubuntu, seems to be about 1pixel tloerance on ubuntu which makes it much more difficult14:16
Shtlrobjloranger: no switch14:16
robjlorangerSASDOE: have you read the sshd manpage?14:16
xiaoluopcI was a rookie, I want to learn C, may I ask what the compiler14:17
wayne_wanghello? anybody see me here ?14:17
whoeverred45923: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148224714:17
robjlorangeryes wayne_wang14:17
dave20!gcc | xiaoluopc14:17
ubottuxiaoluopc: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)14:17
wayne_wangthanks ,:)14:17
ubuntuser13wayne_wang: yes14:18
wiakdoes anyone of you know how i can get su -c to run in a sequence not all at the same time?14:18
whoeverred45923: just use a thicker window boarder seems to be your only option14:18
wiaksearching google is kinda pointless for su -c lol14:18
wiak:P14:18
red45923whoever, yep that link is the same thing, will have a read of it, thx14:18
SASDOErobjloranger: can't seem to find  anything relevant. Would I not set this in the PAM configuration rather than sshd's?14:18
xiaoluopcThank you14:19
robjlorangerShtl: try this command, but replace /dev/sdb with your usb device.. "sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdb" it should remove the write protection14:19
robjlorangerSASDOE: there is a specific setting in the config for sshd14:19
robjlorangerSASDOE: /etc/ssh/sshd_config14:20
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robjlorangerSASDOE: change UsePAM to yes14:21
robjlorangerSASDOE: then you must be root to ssh14:21
robjlorangerSASDOE: and will be auithenticated via PAM14:21
arnishi. Any ideas how to make trusty's vboxwebsrv service to listen to ipv4 ? It looks like its only working ipv6.14:21
whoeverred45923: just curiouse what do you mainly use or do in linux14:22
whoeverred45923: i may have other ideas14:22
SASDOEI have set UsePAM to yes but I need to be granted instant access if logging in via keys, and use two-step if using password14:22
whoeveron how to resize14:22
Shtlrobjloranger: http://paste.debian.net/98248/14:22
cfhowlettwayne_wang ask your ubuntu questions14:22
robjlorangerShtl: and does it format now?14:23
Shtlrobjloranger: let me check14:24
whoeverred45923: also look at(the last post on page may have some options for you )http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94621414:24
robjlorangerSASDOE: check here http://www.howtogeek.com/121650/how-to-secure-ssh-with-google-authenticators-two-factor-authentication/14:25
robjlorangerSASDOE: for two step anyway :)14:25
robjlorangerSASDOE: if PAM is used with sshd, you will have to be root or authenticate as root to access. no way around it14:26
wayne_wang:)14:26
SASDOErobjloranger: what no way? I've allready setup pam to use two-step auth and never needed to login as root14:27
robjlorangerSASDOE: no but using pam for ssh you do14:28
SASDOE*to login in via ssh to a remote server14:29
SASDOEAnd still no root needed14:29
robjlorangerSASDOE: oh no, sorry. it's morning :) just to run sshd. my bad, i appolagize for the confusion14:29
SASDOEAaaah Ok sorry14:30
PlayerHi, I have a VPS running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with vncserver on it.  When I start it up things are fine, I do updates and run a couple of programs and leave it.  I left it last night around midnight, when I try to log in this morning it gives me the message "Too many security failures!"  I logged onto the server with PuTTY and opened the log in ~/.vnc/ with mono and I see my connection being listed as 0.0.0.0:obscureport, then a few hours later,14:31
Player0.0.0.0:anotherobscureport is logged attempting to log in, but failing to do so.  This has been an issue for about two weeks now, I'm not sure if this other IP that's failing authentication is a malicious attack attempt or what, but my password's so cryptic it would take a bruteforcer millions of years to get it.  Anyone have any ideas?14:31
PlayerSorry, I posted my issue about 20 minutes ago and no response.  Is this the wrong channel?14:32
cfhowlettPlayer right channel but please... set up a pasty rather than this wall of text.14:32
red45923thanks whoever, i am trying what Bimps posted here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10351090#post10351090 and editing the xml from a 1pixel tolderance to a 3pixel tolderance, rebooting now14:32
Shtlrobjloranger: no its still not formatting14:32
Playercfhowlett, Sorry!14:33
Hanumaanwhen I try to add repository it does not do anything with add-apt-repository where could be the problem ?14:33
cfhowlettPlayer no apology necessary.  :)14:33
robjlorangerShtl, SASDOE: sorry i have to head to work. hopefuly someone can help you get things going here :)14:33
drwahli'm trying to get steam working on 14.04. fresh install. after 'apt-get install steam', i run the launcher, which downloads updates. after the updates, i get the error "missing 32-bit libraries: libc.so.6". any ideas how to resolve this?14:34
tonytdrwahl just download the steam.deb file14:35
drwahltonyt: tried that route as well. same error14:35
tonytwierd14:35
drwahlseems like the 32-bit libc isn't isntalled or being found by the launcher14:36
tonytwhat ever you are doing its not installing the dependecies14:36
tonyttry installing through the software center ?14:36
drwahlnah, through apt-get14:36
tonyttry software center14:37
drwahli guess i could try aptitude/software center14:37
Xioldrwahl: try installing glibc:i38614:38
Xioldrwahl: apt-get install glibc:i38614:38
drwahlXiol: package not found14:38
drwahli already did the apt-get add-arch to add i386 as well14:38
Xioldrwahl: hmm, it's something like that. you used to be able to just install ia32-libs and it'd pull everything in. i had to do this on my 14.04 box when installing steam too, but can't remember wha steps i took (and I'm currently on RHEL boxes, so can't check)14:39
xiaoluopcHa ha. I want to do hackers ha ha14:39
drwahlya, ia32-libs is no longer available14:39
drwahlfollowing debian's upstream model for the 32 bit stuff14:39
Xiolah, the package might be libc-bin, not glibc14:40
red45923well that change made using the corners to resize windows easier so i am happy with that :)14:40
whoeverred45923: are you sure you don't want to try 5 or 8 px on inside the window14:41
drwahlhow odd... steam won't install from software center. says it's not in my repos14:41
drwahlapt-get install disagrees though14:41
ActionParsnip!info steam-installer14:42
ubottuPackage steam-installer does not exist in trusty14:42
ActionParsnip!find steam14:42
ubottuFound: steam14:42
ActionParsnip!info steam14:42
ubottusteam (source: steam): Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1:1.0.0.45-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 817 kB, installed size 2731 kB (Only available for i386)14:42
ActionParsnipdrwahl: do you have the multiverse repo enabled?14:42
drwahli do14:43
red45923whoever, you mean doing what Bimps wrote but using 8px instead of 3px?14:43
ActionParsnipdrwahl: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install steam14:43
drwahlActionParsnip: apt-get install steam works, fwiw14:43
drwahlwell, it finds it14:43
ActionParsnipdrwahl: so, where is the problem?14:43
drwahli'm trying to get steam working on 14.04. fresh install. after 'apt-get install steam', i run the launcher, which downloads updates. after the updates, i get the error "missing 32-bit libraries: libc.so.6". any ideas how to resolve this?14:43
drwahl^^14:43
drwahlit was suggested i try through the software center14:43
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ActionParsnipdrwahl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/387628/you-are-missing-the-following-32-bit-libraries-and-steam-may-not-run-libc-so14:44
ActionParsnipdrwahl: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=steam+missing+32-bit+libraries%3A+libc.so.614:44
whoeverred45923: yes or even 5 ,3 may be too little14:45
tonytwhen ever i messed with steam ive always used the software center. it will install what ever dependnecies needed for steam14:45
drwahlai32-libs isn't available, so that link seems to be out of date14:45
raubIf you have network manager running and setup a static ip using ifconfig, how long until network manager decides to ignore and wipe that?14:45
ActionParsnipdrwahl: addthe architectur and you can install libc in 32bit14:45
drwahlyup, i've already done the --add-arch stuff14:46
drwahlapt sto;; cam14:46
drwahloops14:46
drwahlapt-still can't find ia32-libs with i386 arch14:46
ActionParsnipdrwahl: addthe architectur and you can install libc in 32bit    nothing to do with ia32-libs14:47
ActionParsnipdrwahl: read14:47
drwahlthe one command that does work is "apt-get install libc-bin:i386", but that is trying to remove the system libc, which will break things horribly14:47
ActionParsnipdrwahl: try in #ubuntu-steam14:48
drwahlwill check there. thanks14:48
red45923whoever, 3px is a lot better than 1px i can tell you, getting the cursor on 1px required a required a lot of trial and error :) will give 3px a go for now but yes 8px seems a more sensible number tbh dunno why it was 1px as a default value but there you go14:48
nezZarioEh, c'mon guys14:50
nezZarioWhat's the deal with grub?  Every once and a while it doesn't 'timeout' at the boot prompt14:50
nezZarioI've never had another *nix do this to me14:50
compdocnezZario, never seen that happen14:51
nezZarioI have to go find a keyboard, plug it up, and press 'enter'14:51
nezZarioIt's really annoying since it's meant to be a headless box :)14:51
compdocsounds like a hardware problem14:51
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nezZarioHow so?  It boots into grub fine, but sometimes it just doesn't show the countdown, and sits there waiting for input14:51
compdocI only use ubuntu on headless servers using all kinds of different brands of hardware. no issues like that14:52
nezZarioWell, it's not the 'ubuntu server' stuff14:53
dupingpinghi everybody.14:53
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nezZarioIt's the normal desktop version14:53
dupingpinghow to create stunserver and client in ubuntu?14:53
nezZarioi stripped out all the xserver stuff by hand (it originally was a desktop)14:53
compdoctheres not that much idfference14:53
nezZarioYeah I have zero clue on the difference14:53
nezZarioI usually use debian but since it's a more for-play at home machine, I'm trying ubuntu :)14:54
nezZarioWell a secondary issue is that I guess for some reason if I have a USB drive plugged in, it hangs at boot too, .. I'm guessing there is some old bootable stuff hanging around, anyone know how to clear that?14:55
mara0I have a text with "\u00a9" in it. How can I convert that character to "©" on the ubuntu command line?14:56
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whoeverred45923: ok, i assume you bookmarked the page :-)14:57
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aditya_which is the best ide for web development??14:58
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aditya_hi can anyone pls tell me which is the best ide for web development??14:59
nezZariovim14:59
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mara0mara0: it's surrounded by other text "blah blah\u00a9author" how can my bash script switch out that with ©?14:59
mara0(in the general case for other backslashed chars too)15:00
jsstrnwhy not use sublime text?15:00
aditya_@nezzario is it gvim???15:00
nezZarioopen up xterm, type 'vim', and pound away ;)15:01
aditya_what is xterm?? is it termonal??15:01
philinuxyep15:02
Guest38878I have a SD card that gparted only finds one partition with 1GB. It should be 8GB total. Any ideas on how to get back the 7GB tht is missing (dont mind if the card i wiped)15:02
nezZarioGuest38878: you don't see a 'FREE SPACE' segment?15:02
philinuxGuest38878;~ use the disks utility15:02
compdocGuest38878, gparted doesnt show 7GB of free sapce?15:02
Guest63354is there a cam app i can use for skype or something?15:03
nezZarioGuest38878: People have been known to counterfeit SD cards and such, ... Are you sure it's 8GB?15:03
Guest38878nezZario, Nope. I also did a new partition table... that didn't work eather.. The card has hold a raspbmc installation and the strange thing is that if i mount it in my raspberry pi it boots up from the mising partition15:03
dupingpinghow to create stunserver and client in ubuntu?15:04
Guest38878it's only gparted that cant find the partition that holds the data15:04
nezZarioGuest38878: I would either try to dd it and wipe it (or the first megabyte or so) or try a different utility15:04
Guest38878nezZario, It states 8GB on the SDcard so I'm pretty shure15:04
nezZarioWell if your rpi says its 8GB then it's probably 8GB15:05
Guest38878nezZario, any tips on what utiliy to use?15:05
Guest38878nezZario, or how to whipe it compleatly?15:05
Camellia18 You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1gAh6Jy15:05
bigred15Guest63354: What do you mean exactly? Skype has cam functionality.15:05
nezZarioSomeone suggested 'disk utility' earlier, I'm guessing the gnome one?15:05
nezZarioI personally would try opening up xterm and using 'fdisk'15:05
nezZarioDo you know which device it is?15:06
nezZarioi.e. /dev/sdX15:06
philinuxGuest38878;~ open dash type indisk15:06
Guest63354idk my cam wont turn on when im on skype15:06
philinuxin disk lol15:06
Guest38878philinux, indisk: command not found15:07
philinuxGuest38878;~ open dash type in > disk15:08
philinuxjust disk15:08
Guest38878nezZario, yepp its sdb15:08
bigred15Guest63354: you can try to utilise pidgin15:08
bigred15pidgin with skype running in the bg15:08
philinuxGuest38878;~ it's a very nice utility15:09
nezZarioyou can use "> /dev/sdb" to wipe it then as suggested by philinux or use dd15:09
Guest38878in > disk15:09
Guest38878bash: syntax error near unexpected token `in'15:09
nezZarioBe careful, if you have the wrong device you WILL wipe any arbitrary disk connected15:09
nezZariomake damn sure it's sdb15:09
philinuxGuest38878;~ don't forget to tick take ownership if you use disks otherwise it ends up as owned by root15:10
nezZariohe meant type in: "> /dev/sdb"15:10
Guest38878philinux, sorry.. how do I use fdisk?15:10
nezZariodd would be like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4k15:10
philinuxGuest38878;~ i don't use fdisk15:11
nezZarioGuest38878: "fdisk /dev/sdb"15:11
nezZarioit'll bring up a little menu, type ? or help or something, it'll tell you how to use it15:11
Guest38878nezZario, Thanks I'll try that15:11
philinuxvery often i mean15:11
nezZarioSorry, I use headless machines mostly so I'm not used to all these fancy gui tools =)15:12
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aaa801Right, so, one of my root users managed to do this, chown -R BteamServer:BteamServer /15:12
aaa801whats the easiest way to recover from it ?15:12
nezZarioaaa801: have a backup15:13
aaa801nezZario: nothing that important on this, just wondering if a reinstall would be easier15:13
nezZarioYes, probably.. Else you'd need to compare it to another working system and then work out the rest15:14
nezZarioBe careful with root, use sudo15:14
Guest13708i need help im new to Ubuntu and i dont really care fo it my friend did a duel boot thing and now its saying im missing a boot img or something for windows anyone know how to fix it ?15:14
Guest38878nezZario, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4k   did not work! I ended up with a new partition 1GB big...15:15
nezZariodd will not create a partition15:15
Guest38878nezZario, It's like it's broken but since Raspberry finds the partition and boots up nicely..15:15
Guest38878nezZario, Yo re right. I ended up with an unallocated space 1GB big15:16
nezZarioseriously, try fdisk, delete all the partitions, and recreate them, I have no idea what gparted is telling you or why15:16
PistolPetewhat up playas15:16
Guest38878nezZario, so fdisk /dev/sdb?15:16
yossarianukif you have billions of files in a directory (say on ext4) what is the quickesy way of counting them ?15:16
nezZarioyossarianuk: ehh, probably find . | wc -l which is still going to be slow as mollasses15:17
yossarianuknezZario: no way of directly getting the info from the filesystem ?15:17
BluewolfHi all, how do I check if I have the right Nvidia Drivers installed?, My desktop keeps freezing at random which is GPU related.15:18
yossarianukBluewolf: you can see the version from 'nvidia-settings'15:18
kingmofohello15:18
bigred15is there a way to stop nautilus from creating the directories "Desktop", "Documents" etc..?15:19
Bluewolfyossarianuk: Where I can't see anything, it does have stuff selected on Additional Drivers?\15:19
nezZarioyossarianuk: none to my knowledge, but I could be wrong, google might can help if you're that serious about it, i.e. you're going to be running this frequently15:20
gmachine_24greetings. is it possible/easy to create a dual-boot set up with win 7 on one drive and Ubuntu on another? Thanks.15:20
kingmofoI'm making an application like BitTorrent but for Terminal15:20
nezZariogmachine_24: very possible, in fact I think the handbook will guide you trhough it15:20
bigred15kingmofo: cool, is it going allow individual torrent throttling?15:20
yossarianukBluewolf: one of the main issues with Ubuntu and variants is its not easy to get the latest stable Nvidia driver - for some reason they stick to an older one - which has known bugs (fixed in later versions) in the name of stability...15:21
gmachine_24nezZario, thanks... is this THE handbook?15:21
yossarianukBluewolf: but15:21
Guest38878nezZario, Now there they are! :-)15:21
yossarianukBluewolf: from a terminal window type 'nvidia-settings'15:21
gmachine_24nezZario: ok, really, to which handbook are you referring?15:21
yossarianuknezZario: cheers - will investigate - there must be a way...15:22
djangohow do i update from 12.0415:23
Lannister69my .Xauthority permission was root and I had to change it to user. I did it and now I can login ubuntu again. but the graphic is weird.  any solution?? maybe I should also change permission for the graphic driver15:23
yossarianukdjango: LTS releases will update in a month or so15:23
yossarianuk(to give more time to kill bugs...)15:23
Bluewolfyossarianuk: My Nvidia GPU is a 240GT, what does this mean? - http://pastebin.com/QNWHGQ2v15:24
djangoyossarianuk, so stick to 12.0415:24
module000yossarianuk: or manually install the driver you want.15:24
yossarianukmodule000: yes - but Ubuntu makes that hard....15:24
philinuxyossarianuk;~ you could try this echo * | wc15:25
Armag3dd0n17 hours good for a battery?15:25
module000yossarianuk: "hard" is typing 1 command? never mind....15:25
Armag3dd0n1i think windows done 3 hours but ubuntu 7 hours15:25
yossarianukmodule000: no - thats what I do in most distros (except arch which normally has latest in repos)15:25
Armag3dd0n1banana?15:26
Armag3dd0n1:p15:26
PraxiI need a non usb drive to auto mount any time it is inserted into the dock.  What should I be looking up?15:26
yossarianukmodule000: i mean the nvidia driver related tools (jockey, etc) that get in the way (or at least used to) of the manual ./NVIDIA.... install15:26
kingmofoXD15:26
Armag3dd0n1why can't I see my uptime on battery? it's blue and red lines wtf15:27
Armag3dd0n1it's green red and blue omg15:28
Armag3dd0n1which color is the battery??15:28
yossarianukphilinux: thanks but that can take ages - or if the dir is still filling maybe days...15:28
yossarianukphilinux: was looking to talk directly to FS..15:29
Armag3dd0n1bleh15:29
Armag3dd0n1anyone? it's like im talking to myself lol15:30
philinuxyossarianuk;~ find command would probably be the fastest15:31
SchrodingersScatArmag3dd0n1: you can get uptime with 'uptime'15:31
Bluewolfyossarianuk: My Nvidia GPU is a 240GT, what does this mean? - http://pastebin.com/QNWHGQ2v15:31
BeldarArmag3dd0n1, THe channel asks you not swear or use acronyms of.15:31
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Armag3dd0n1oops15:31
gmachine_24greetings. is it possible/easy to create a dual-boot set up with win 7 on one drive and Ubuntu on another? Thanks.15:32
Armag3dd0n1and i want battery uptime not all up time :*15:32
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ i'm on mains just now so cant check the power utils15:32
SchrodingersScatk, idk what a battery uptime is then :/15:32
Armag3dd0n1it's with the color lines i think blue it is not sure tho15:32
Beldargmachine_24, possible yes, easy for me yes, for you, only you know.15:32
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ right click on the battery icon loads of stuff should be there15:33
Armag3dd0n1it's showing just under 24 mins and on 94%15:33
Armag3dd0n1ugh15:33
fellayaboywhats the best solution for sharing files on my server to people using links15:33
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ see this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/check-battery-life-health-ubuntu-linux15:33
fellayaboybe it sftp, ssh, tftp, apache15:33
yossarianukBluewolf: sorry not sure - does nvidia-settings actually start - and just checking - your not root are you >15:34
SchrodingersScatfellayaboy: using links?15:34
fellayaboyright schrodingersScat15:34
gmachine_24fine: how do I create a dual-boot set up with win 7 on one drive and Ubuntu on another? Thanks.15:34
yossarianukBluewolf: also - do this15:34
yossarianukdpkg -l | grep nvidia15:34
Beldar!dualboot | gmachine_2415:34
ubottugmachine_24: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot15:34
Beldar!who | gmachine_2415:34
ubottugmachine_24: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)15:34
fellayaboysay i want to share a file with you right now.  i want to instant message you a link and you download it from my pc.. be it ftp or whatever but u simply click click and boom you get a prompt to save or open file15:34
gmachine_24!who | Beldar15:35
ubottuBeldar: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)15:35
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Armag3dd0n1yeah i saw that :p15:35
Beldargmachine_24, I have used your nick every time do you get the issue.15:35
gmachine_24Beldar, no, I'm really stupid.15:35
Beldargmachine_24, I thought so, welcome to ignore.15:36
SchrodingersScatfellayaboy: ok, firefox doesn't like sftp, just tested.  apache2 is certainly an option, think they can do ftp as well.  Nginx if you're not using php/etc.  If you want you could do apache2/owncloud very easily, then they could have accounts, and you can use the owncloud sharing of files.15:36
gmachine_24haha......15:36
Armag3dd0n1bahhahaha15:37
gmachine_24Indeed. :-)15:37
fellayaboywell creating accounts will be ok some other time but for now... i dont want people to create accounts..i just want them to click and save no matter who. but i do not want them to be able to go deeper up the parent directories or have them easilly access other things...15:38
alnassafiHi all15:38
Armag3dd0n1what line is the battery? http://lookpic.com/O/i2/328/tqauPqZ.png15:38
Bluewolfyossarianuk: My Nvidia Settings starts but it does not have anything in it, my Additional Drivers has different Nvidia Settings which do I choose? - http://pastebin.com/s1dFCbJR15:38
alnassafiI am trying to change root .. I used to be able now I can not15:38
SchrodingersScatfellayaboy: I use a combination of apache2, apache2/owncloud, and nginx, I'm fine with giving them a bare apache2/nginx autoindex page of a directory.15:38
alnassafisudo chroot /mnt/lfs /bin/env -i HOME=/root TERM="$TERM" PS1='\u:\w\$ ' PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin: /bin/bash --login15:38
Armag3dd0n1okay not the best ss ever lmao15:39
fellayaboyi see schrodingerscat taht sounds good i will look into ownclound and nginx15:39
ActionParsnipalnassafi: omgubuntu has a guide for chrooting called 'sticking it to grub', very useful15:39
yossarianukBluewolf: ok - it looks like you have no driver install15:39
alnassafisudo chroot "$LFS" /bin/env -i HOME=/root TERM="$TERM" PS1='\u:\w\$ ' PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin: /bin/bash --login15:39
SchrodingersScatfellayaboy: oh, if you don't want them to move around directories, then owncloud might be what you want?  because then you can limit the public sharing, although you can do this with apache in other ways of course.15:39
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ blue dischagrge red is charge i guess15:39
gmachine_24alnassafi: come on dude, third time's a charm15:39
Armag3dd0n1really?15:40
fellayaboyi see isee schrodingersscat.  yeah and of course i dont want them running commands if someone is savy out there15:40
alnassafiThanx ...15:40
yossarianukBluewolf: try - sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-libopencl1-331-updates nvidia-opencl-icd-331-updates nvidia-prime nvidia-settings15:40
fellayaboydont know if its secure like that but yeah u know15:40
yossarianuk(then reboot)15:40
alnassafiI was doing it for a very long time .. this morning I did it .. then I could not do it any more ...15:40
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ odd graph that to be sure15:40
gmachine_24alnassafi: we're still talking about computing here?15:41
alnassafiThanx .. I will try to find the answer from web15:41
Armag3dd0n1yeah it's doing my sweed in :(15:41
Bluewolfyossarianuk: Okay will do.15:41
gmachine_24alnassafi, really, stay... you must be patient15:41
Armag3dd0n1tbh i keep charging and not charging that's why it's messed up lol15:42
yossarianukBluewolf: good luck !15:42
Armag3dd0n1banana?15:43
Armag3dd0n1:p15:43
gmachine_24alnassafi: I should have been more to-the-point: reposting the same thing within a short period isn't really helpful; clogs things up and our eyes glaze over15:43
philinuxArmag3dd0n1;~ is there a reset stats button15:43
Armag3dd0n1nope15:43
Armag3dd0n1:(15:43
Armag3dd0n1it's been on blue nearly 36 mins so red must be charge and blue dischagre15:44
Armag3dd0n1pain in the monkeys uncle tbh ;p15:44
ToothHi im having some problem whit my ubuntu!15:44
Henne91Hey everybody15:44
philinuxgotta go have fun everyone15:46
gmachine_24as usual, the snotty/sarcastic/arrogant people give no useful information although they think they're a god; so, if anyone has 411 on how to create a dual-boot system using one drive for windows and one for linux, please let me know. Thanks.  FYI and b4 anyone ubottos me again, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows provides no useful information15:47
torisogmachine_24: ubuntu should give you the option to install ubuntu next to windows15:48
willwhgmachine_24: that is pretty strasightforward15:49
gmachine_24toriso, on two separate hard drives?15:49
Bluewolfyossarianuk: Thank You for you help and Time :D15:49
willwhif you start with a win install, then install ubuntu, check advanced at the partitioning stage15:49
gmachine_24each drive with a different OS?15:49
willwhyes15:49
willwhwhy not15:49
willwhit's not like 2 clicks and you are done15:49
willwhdo you know much about partitioning disks?15:50
yossarianukBluewolf: do you now have a driver ?15:50
willwhif you don't I wouldn't recommend you try15:50
willwhand I don't have time to help you right now, just eaving for work15:50
willwhyou can ping me later though (after 18:00 PST)15:50
Henne91Hey everybody! I have a question concerning Unity/Debugging. Does anybody have an idea what is the best way to run unity-settings-daemon in debug mode right after boot?15:51
Henne91The problem is, I am trying to debug an annoying bug but if I run "unity-settings-daemon --replace --debug" this will prevent the bug so I need to start it in debug mode right away.15:51
torisogmachine_24: never done it on 2 drives, i thought you were asking for a dual boot15:51
Armag3dd0n1there is an option to install ubuntu with windows m815:51
Armag3dd0n1i saw it not long back with windows 715:52
gmachine_24toriso, I know. thanks for your reply and your understanding. and yes, willwh, I know about partitioning; I have been using Linux for more than a decade but have never tried a dual boot using two drives - each with one of the OSes installed.15:52
Bluewolfyossarianuk: Well not yet because my internet is moving at its incredible speed of 35kbps - 36.5MB is going to take a short while :D15:52
Armag3dd0n1can i install windows 7 after ubuntu install? it's hard?15:52
gmachine_24I am doing Ubuntu and Windows 715:53
yossarianukBluewolf: thats not good - your not on Virgin broadband are you (UK)15:53
bigred15gmachine_24: setup your BIOS to boot from the disk that Ubuntu resides on15:53
torisogmachine_24: no problem and good luck15:53
gmachine_24Armag3dd0n1: I've never tried it but these are directions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/WindowsLast15:53
gmachine_24unless you're just busting my chops15:54
Armag3dd0n1thank you :p15:54
GothPawhow does one get a machine to have a "fully qualified domain name" when the server is actually hosting numerous virtual websites using the same IP address?15:54
chdkHello, I want to install chdk to my camera. However i can not write to my sd card in ubuntu. I get "There was an error creating the directory in gphoto2://[usb:002,006]/." And if i click show more details is get the very informative "Error creating directory:-1: Unspecified error" This is when i connect the powershot over usb. If I put the SD card in the card reader i do not even get the option to copy to the sd card or rename files. Wh15:54
willwhGothPaw: it's not, your webserver is listening for specific domains (probably) in it's apache or nginx config15:55
willwhyour system still has a hostname15:55
gmachine_24bigred15, ok here's my question though...... with windows 7 on say the "first" hard drive and ubuntu on the second, ... well I can't see why when I still Ubuntu on a second, separate drive that grub will notice there's a Windows 7 install on a separate drive... or does this happen?15:55
Bluewolfyossarianuk: No, but it would most likely be better than my connection at the moment, its potential is 250kbps when it feels like working. If I get a higher connection it costs - 2MB/sec is about $200 - us15:56
gmachine_24*installed15:56
Armag3dd0n1bluewolf; how much you pay and what speed?15:56
bigred15gmachine_24: if you've already installed windows on one disk, and then you go to install ubuntu on the 2nd disk, and setup the BIOS to boot from the second disk that ubuntu resides on, grub should pick up the windows disk also15:57
BluewolfArmag3dd0n1: $60 - us with a top speed of 250kbps on a lucky day :D15:57
gmachine_24bigred15, ok, thanks. I will try that.15:57
yossarianukBluewolf: ouch - well I normally get around 3-6 MB/s - but there are so many times the entire service is offline...15:57
Armag3dd0n1woah15:57
GothPawwillwh: yes it does have a hostname for smb sharing, but everywhere I read it says to add a line to /etc/hosts that says 127.0.0.1 www.domainnamehere.com ......  this is where i get confused as there are a lot of domains hosted on the server15:57
Armag3dd0n1i pay £31 and get 160/1215:57
Armag3dd0n118.9MB/s atm :p15:58
chdkHow do I format an SD card in ubuntu?15:58
yossarianukThe USA has no problems with monopolies...  I hear your mobile phone contracts are also insanely priced..15:58
yossarianuk(this is off topic..)15:58
gmachine_24bigred15, I'm just tired of the Windows install borking and then I'm left having to either reinstall Windows or do a Norton save which wipes the entire drive15:59
bigred15gmachine_24: no worries15:59
Armag3dd0n1so much hard work installing windows after ubuntu ;(15:59
gmachine_24I've never done the "reinstall Wnidows second" thing maybe it's ..... well, there you go.... Armag just said it.... a big PITA16:00
gmachine_24thankfully, I back up everything numerous times so that's not a problem16:01
Armag3dd0n1only 1 reason why i need windows...iTunes!16:01
torisoyou can install windows after linux?16:01
Armag3dd0n1toriso, you can but it's hard16:01
Armag3dd0n1<< no idea what a live cd is :S16:02
torisoArmag3dd0n1: i always thought windows would wipe out everything16:02
gmachine_24toriso, I've never done it; Armag* says "it's hard"; here's a link that I haven't read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/WindowsLast16:02
gmachine_24Armag3dd0n1: re: livecd, really?16:02
Armag3dd0n1yeah im new to ubuntu16:02
yossarianuktoriso: only 1 main OS pretends not to see other filesystems/OS'...16:02
Armag3dd0n1i moved over from xp16:02
Armag3dd0n1with the help of google :p16:03
torisoi need to reat this lol, i was believing a myth :)16:03
bluewolf__yossarianuk: Sorry had to bomb my machine - it frozed because of the drivers.16:03
saj0577returning to ubuntu after many years away. cant remember which email addreess i used (probably one thats obsolete. hoping to log back into ubuntuforums with old account can anyone help?16:03
yossarianukI only used windows from 1996 -> 200116:03
yossarianukbluewolf__: you can run it on the console...16:04
gmachine_24Armag3dd0n1: a live cd is one which generally you can install from - but you can also run a "live" version of the Linuxes from a CD/DVD/USB stick which allows you to try a version before doing an actual install16:04
jsstrnArmag3dd0n1 LiveCD is for those trying out Ubuntu for the first time. You run the OS on a CD. You can also do that on a USB stick.16:04
Armag3dd0n1so wait, if i try and install windows after i break ubuntu, i can fix it?16:04
gmachine_24Armag3dd0n1: you can fix which one?16:04
Armag3dd0n1my ubuntu is like so tweaked16:04
Armag3dd0n1both?16:04
Armag3dd0n1lol16:04
jsstrnArmag3dd0n1 not recommended for long term use, but it's good for those who just want to have a feel of the OS before installing it on a VM or on a HDD16:05
bluewolf__yossarianuk: Console?16:05
yossarianuki.e - ctrl+alt+f216:05
gmachine_24Armag3dd0n1: welcome to my world; this is the problem I'm trying to prevent with two hard drives each with one of the oses in question16:05
Armag3dd0n1yeah, installing windows will break the ubuntu grub16:05
Armag3dd0n1im gonna break my own legs and try :p16:05
mortis304Can someone tell me where the PHP config file lives on Ubuntu?  I’m coming up with multiple php.ini files...16:05
Armag3dd0n1bbs16:06
PraxiI need a non usb drive to auto mount any time it is inserted into the dock without rebooting.  I have messed with adding the UUID to /etc/fstab.  That works for a reboot, but not otherwise.  What should I be looking up?16:06
Praximortis304 isn't there  a'which php' or something like that?16:06
Praxior am I thinking python?16:06
mortis304That doesn’t tell me where the config file lives only the binary16:07
gmachine_24saj0577: hi, not trying to be a pill, but pretty much think you need to contact the ubuntuforums peoples..........16:07
Praxithe ini file will be in that directory or a sub of it I thought16:07
saj0577okay cheers16:07
mortis304no16:07
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Praxiand this doesn't help mortis304 ?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/356968/find-the-correct-php-ini-file16:08
gmachine_24saj0577: I sort of had the same problem; they redid the whole sign-in thing and I guess I never did find my original ubuntuforums user profile including all my wonderful beans; I miss those beans..... :-(16:08
chdkhow do i open filemanager as root? sudo nautilus does not work. I think the name changed?16:08
gmachine_24I would like to thank everyone who took the time today to actually real and understand the question I was asking; and to those of you arrogant fools who think you are so hot because you diss people in an Ubuntu IRC channel (of all places) I have only this o say: MEAN PEOPLE SUCK16:10
gmachine_24ok, *read, *to16:10
bluewolf__yossarianuk: Console, does it stop the system from freezing while it installs?16:10
mortis304Thanks Praxi16:10
Praxiyw mortis304 !16:11
yuerserHow do you upgrade flash from 11.2 to 11.816:11
lotuspsychjehow can i install ubuntu on an old acer aspire without cd or usb as first boot?16:11
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geirhalotuspsychje: tell it to boot cd or usb16:12
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: a network/ftp install? but I think you need some way to boot the computer ...........16:12
lotuspsychjegeirha: bios doesnt wanna set cd or usb to first boot16:13
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: ive seen it can network boot, yes what do i need for that?16:13
yossarianukbluewolf__: it might if the GPU is the issue.16:13
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: does the bios allow for booting from network....16:13
geirhalotuspsychje: seriously? is it like 20 years old?16:13
lotuspsychjegeirha: its an old machine yes :p16:13
lotuspsychjegeirha: and cdrom kinda broken16:14
toothWhat  command or a software to check the internet connection for unwanted access16:14
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: yes, what do i need for network boot?16:14
geirhalotuspsychje: does it have an operating system already?16:14
lotuspsychjegeirha: xp16:15
lotuspsychjegeirha: ive tryed install trick from 14.04 usb stick from xp, but after reboot it does nothing16:15
brianrlotuspsychje, if you have another machine on the network, you would likely have to setup a PXE boot to an install iso16:15
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: can you still boot from xp? have tried a bios update?16:16
lotuspsychjebrianr: do i need connect the eth cable to 2nd pc and search for the iso?16:16
geirhamay be easier to put the harddrive in a more agreeable machine, install, then switch it back.16:16
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: I think brianr is yourman16:16
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: yes i can boot xp16:16
tadohey all. i have a strange problem on 14.04... sometimes (not always) programs such as firefox, thunderbird and musique recognize my pointer as pointing somewhere else than it actually is on the screen. like to click on firefox's address bar i need to be almost one cm above it and to the left. has anyone encountered this? i don't even know what keywords to use to search the web for it...16:17
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: do you want a dual-boot machine?16:17
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: god no :p dualboots are my nightmare16:17
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: and if you plug in an external usb cd/dvd drive you cannot boot from that?16:18
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: dont got a spare usb to cd drive16:18
brianrlotuspsychje, the PXE boot scenario isn't a real simple option, it will take some time to setup16:18
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: only usb or network16:18
lotuspsychje!wubi > lotuspsychje16:19
ubottulotuspsychje, please see my private message16:19
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: so you tried to install from a usb flash drive which had 14.04 on it - and you completed the install and then you didn't get the grub boot menu option when rebooting?16:20
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: no, i have 14.04 on usb, but cant get it to load on that old laptop16:21
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: have you tried different version of Linux??? others will know more.... but one for older hardware..........16:21
tooth3216:21
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: tryed from within xp also, and pressed a wubi lookalike on the usb, but after reboot nothing loads16:22
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: I cannot help you with wubi16:22
lucastthey, i installed a package lib32(not the exact name)16:22
lucasttand now my interface looks like that http://imgur.com/98kP6L016:23
lucasttthat's chrome menu16:23
lucasttbut i don't know if it's related to that package16:23
violeteagleCan GPU driver be installed without the GPU in the Computer, reasoning being is that my computer keeps freezing when I try and install it?16:23
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: so here's one thing, if you don't want a dual-boot, then you're best off wiping the hard drive - and then installing Linux/Ubuntu.... you can always remove the Windows partitions after an Ubuntu install, but then you must rerun grub config16:24
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: you burned your ubuntu 14.04 iso to the flash drive using unetbootin I assume?16:25
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: no with boot disk creator from my trusty netbook16:25
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: but cant get it to load on this older laptop16:26
tadoanyone that has suggestions about the mouse pointer problem?16:26
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: it doesn't sound as if you got it to install on the older laptop16:26
brianrlotuspsychje, have you tried to boot the netbook from that USB drive?16:27
lotuspsychjebrianr: the usb is fine, never had a fail on it16:27
lotuspsychjebrianr: its just the old laptop that has no bios option to boot removable media16:27
lotuspsychjebrianr: think that network trick is my best option16:28
salahacker ?16:28
lotuspsychjebrianr: but never done it before, so not sure what to do16:29
brianrlotuspsychje, typically what i do in your situation is the PXE boot ... your other machine is linux or Windows?16:29
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: which means you are able to boot from the usb drive.......... right?16:29
gmachine_24brianr, windowsxp16:29
lotuspsychjebrianr: win16:29
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: not from that older laptop16:29
toothu have to use 32 on the old laptop16:29
gmachine_24ok, my mistake....... I'll mind my own biz16:30
brianrlotuspsychje, for windows i have had good results with http://www.vercot.com/~serva/16:30
gmachine_24brianr, that looks like a great resource/tool....... I'm going to check that out more... thanks16:31
lotuspsychjegmachine_24, brianr tnx16:31
brianrif you google ubuntu serva install there is some pretty detailed directions16:32
nicnmhello all16:32
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: and whoever said your xp laptop probably won't handle 64 bit is probably correct... if that's what you've tried to install16:32
gmachine_24nicnm... hi.... got a problem or question?16:33
nicnmnot at the moment, tho I may, reading man pages16:34
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: im trying to install trusty 64bit on it yes16:35
violeteagleCan GPU driver be installed without the GPU in the Computer, reasoning being is that my computer keeps freezing when I try and install it?16:35
ActionParsnipvioleteagle: sure, you can install anything you want16:35
gmachine_24brianr, I have a dual-boot drive where neither win 7 home prem 64 bit nor ubuntu 12.04 64 bit will boot...... they ran fine until about a week ago and the more times I tried to "fix" things the worse it got; I have a live CD/dvd Ubuntu of course and I want to reinstall grub to that drive......... or at least to the Ubuntu install; I don't care if the Windows os ever boots again ...... how I...16:36
gmachine_24...can I fix grub on the dual-boot from a live ubuntu dvd?16:36
toothhi the command netstat /ano dont work as it done before cant see what ip or device that are establised to my router is there a software or command that can check my connections16:36
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: I"m thinking you're nver going to get a 64 bit install to work on that laptop16:36
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: why's that?16:37
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: in short, not compatible16:37
violeteagleActionParsnip: Okay, so I could remove my GPU install the Driver and put it back in and it should work fine, or is there a simpler way?16:37
gmachine_24try a 32 bit as tooth was suggesting16:37
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: its a sempron 3000+, should be able to handle 64bit16:38
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: and how's that working for you? :-)16:38
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: im trying a 12.04 xubuntu cdrom atm, hopefully it doesnt crash on me16:39
haozekang.16:39
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: maybe i can get ubuntu-desktop from there16:39
haozekangwhich country you come from?16:41
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: ok, did a little research and it seems your 3000+ is 64-bit; my apologies; but perhaps the other hardware on the laptop is not supported in the most-recent Ubuntu versions; I don't know; it's a possibility16:41
brianroddly enough my google search for sempron 3000+ says its a 32bit16:42
gmachine_24brianr, haha...... and that, my friends, is the internet16:43
brianrthere is a 64bit sempron16:43
smoovepI am trying to view my nas via apache but I get access denied.. any ideas?16:43
haozekangthere are chinese people?16:45
gmachine_24AMD Sempron 64 3000+ Palermo 1.8GHz Socket 754 Processor16:46
gmachine_24for one16:46
haozekangh16:47
Yelu!cn|haozekang16:47
ubottuhaozekang: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw16:47
gmachine_24lotuspsychje, http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Sempron%203000+%20-%20SDA3000DUT4D%20%28SDA3000BOX%29.html16:47
haozekang /join #ubuntu-cn16:48
firefoxhow16:49
firefoxquit16:50
arcskyubuntu server hw requirments anyone?16:51
Dreadlisharcsky: there aren't any.16:51
Dreadlisharcsky: just cpu better than pentium.16:52
Dreadlishand some ram.16:52
dupingpingplease help me16:52
toothcan i recover a partition What command or software can i use?  i inserted windows xp install cd and it did bring the computer to disk error stats! i resurected it whit ubuntu 13.10 usb stick but all my things from my old home folder are goane!  thx16:52
lotuspsychjeok ive been able to load the xubuntu livecd, how can i install ubuntu trusty from usb from there?16:52
xangualotuspsychje: double click the Install Xubuntu icon16:52
dupingpingI am interested unicode virtual console, and other already asked a question as it.16:53
dupingpingat http://askubuntu.com/questions/462961/what-is-unicode-virtual-console16:53
dupingpingwho can help me and him?16:53
lotuspsychjexangua: the problem is the cdrom drive s kinda broken, i need to install from usb drive16:53
violeteagleDo I have to reboot my machine after installing GPU Drivers?16:53
xangua!usb16:53
xanguathen make a bootable usb lotuspsychje16:53
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent16:53
someHumanHello!16:54
someHumanWhat does blocks mean when using the terminal command `df`?16:54
lotuspsychjexangua: its an old laptop without usb to set to boot16:54
lotuspsychjexangua: bios doesnt support it16:54
xanguathen get an external dvd/cd drive16:54
DJones!requirements | arcsky There's a list of requirements in the bots link for server installs, hope that helps,16:55
ubottuarcsky There's a list of requirements in the bots link for server installs, hope that helps,: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu16:55
lotuspsychjexangua: dont have one here, cant i terminal command to upgrade from internet?16:55
root_____wc16:55
root_____q16:55
lotuspsychjexangua: from the xubuntu live desktop16:55
xangualotuspsychje: do you have ubuntu already installed¿16:56
lotuspsychjexangua: no ive been able to load xubuntu live (from cdrom) but full install corrupts on bad cdrom16:57
gmachine_24lotuspsychje: bad cdrom or bad cd16:57
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: its the old cdrom drive that fails i know16:57
gmachine_24ok16:57
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gmachine_24lotuspsychje: how much ram does your laptop have?16:58
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: 512 ddram16:58
someHumanCan someone look this up, weird http://imgur.com/1UgAk4h16:58
gmachine_24haha16:58
someHumanI am by the way just learning the terminal.16:58
gmachine_24sorry16:58
gmachine_24dude........ you need a very light *nux install for that laptop16:59
gmachine_24*nix16:59
gmachine_24and I am out16:59
lotuspsychjegmachine_24: well i can live with xubuntu trusty on it :p16:59
brianrlotuspsychje, do you have a legacy usb option in the bios of that acer? if so is it enabled?17:00
untrothyI'm seeing a lot of RX traffic on my vps, with tcpdump I see a lot of "IP xxxxx.xxxxxx.com.54774 > 255.255.255.255.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST. Anyone have any idea what this is? I'm getting 4 GB of rx traffic a day extra.17:01
ActionParsniplotuspsychje: install ubutu minimal then fluxbox and it'll run ok17:01
JediMasterI've upgraded my dell xps 15 laptop to 14.04 yesterday (after having it upgrade fine on a few desktops and servers), and I can't get the display drivers working, and it tries to boot in low graphics mode every time I boot. The laptop has dual Intel and Nvidia graphics cards, I have tried purging the nvidia drivers, reinstalling nvidia-331 and running nvidia-xconfig, and no luck, any other ideas?17:01
ActionParsnipJediMaster: did you install bumblebee?17:01
dupingpinghttp://askubuntu.com/questions/462961/what-is-unicode-virtual-console17:02
SlartsomeHuman: could it be the difference between disk space that can't be used for something else vs disk space actually used?17:02
dupingpingubuntu has unicode virtual console?17:02
JediMasterActionParsnip, no, it's not installed, however, it may have been in the past17:02
lotuspsychjebrianr: it can handle usb sticks yes, just not boot it17:02
ActionParsnipJediMaster: its needed if you have that switching GPU nonesense17:02
lotuspsychjeActionParsnip: xubuntu live seems to run nicely on it17:02
JediMasterActionParsnip, not with nvidia-prime17:02
ActionParsnipJediMaster: try both ways. I'm asuming you have tried nvidia-prime and you arent getting a win are you?17:03
JediMasterActionParsnip, just can't get X to start at all with nvidia installed or not17:04
ActionParsnipJediMaster: try bumblebee, it's free to try17:04
JediMasterActionParsnip, Am I right in thinking if I uninstall nvidia-* delete the xorg config then restart it, it ought to detect the intel graphics card and use that?17:05
ActionParsnipJediMaster: Sounds like a plan17:05
someHumanSlart: That actually made sense!17:05
someHumanGUI does add up to memory, assuming that anything GUI will take up more space than just text interface. Thanks!17:06
SlartsomeHuman: happy to.. surprise you =)17:06
someHumanSlart: ;)17:06
JediMasterActionParsnip, installing bumblebee-nvidia didn't seem to help, will try a complete uninstall of it all and hopefully running on the intel gpu17:07
diogrohttps://bleutrade.com/home/8 - Bleutrade. The most powerful cryptocurrency exchange platform of the universe!17:07
JediMasterActionParsnip, no luck =/17:08
DJonesdiogro: PLease don't spam, the channels topic is Ubuntu support17:08
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JediMasterActionParsnip, I've pastebin'ed my Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/yyDHVbAn17:15
JediMasterActionParsnip, it's really weird, there's no (EE) other than the final line: (EE) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.17:15
JediMasterAlso, I can see the Intel drivers are loading here17:16
violeteagleHow do I check my GPU temperature?17:17
untrothyI'm seeing a lot of RX traffic on my vps, with tcpdump I see a lot of "IP xxxxx.xxxxxx.com.54774 > 255.255.255.255.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST. Anyone have any idea what this is? I'm getting 4 GB of rx traffic a day extra.17:21
violeteagleNever mind, found out how.17:22
ActionParsnipuntrothy: have you done a whois on the IP?17:23
untrothyit the same address of my vps provider17:23
ActionParsnipuntrothy: then contact the vps provider...17:23
untrothyActionParsnip, Oh ok I thought my vps was up to something, i'll open a ticket thanks17:24
toothi having network issues is ther a room for network?17:29
bazhang##networking tooth17:31
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Armag3dd0n1I done it! I managed to install windows after ubuntu was firstly installed! w00t.17:31
toothok thx i try join there17:32
Armag3dd0n1thank god for google ;)17:32
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toothno chat but cant virtualbox can u use to much runing windows and much more17:33
bekkstooth: What does that sentence mean?17:33
nicnmit makes installing osx super easy17:33
bekksnicnm: If you own a Mac.17:33
toothu can run windows in virtual machine17:34
nicnm-.-17:34
toothand sory for chat bye17:34
JediMasterActionParsnip, I've just created a 14.04 usb key (rather than upgrading from 13.10) and booted from the USB stick and X starts correctly, so it must be something installed/left over from the 13.10 install stopping X starting17:34
JediMasterActionParsnip,  Oh well, don't have much time for diagnosing what's wrong, and very little that isn't backed up and easily copied over, so might as well install a fresh 14.04 copy on it17:35
nicnmI had a similar problem upgrading from 13.1017:35
testest:)17:36
nicnmit killed x but the kernel was fine so...thats how I got x back...fresh install17:36
mmazinglots of questions out there for the opposite of this ... how do i make my screens stay on longer after locking my desktop?17:37
stevieyo17:43
stevieon xubuntu: i have two internal hard drives, how can I installl an iso from one to the other?17:44
ActionParsnipstevie: you will need to add the ISO to grub17:45
ActionParsnipstevie: then set the other drive up as the drive to install to17:45
steviek sounds good17:45
steviety17:45
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MIG-Anyone here use httprof ? I'm transitioning from Apache Benchmark to httprof and trying to figure out how to specify a level of concurrency17:53
moppsCould someone running Trusty please post me the result of `uname -a`? Thanks!17:53
ActionParsnip!info linux-image-generic trusty | mopps17:54
ubottumopps: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.24.29 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 27 kB17:54
ghartz_MIG-, look at https://github.com/lighttpd/weighttp or https://github.com/wg/wrk17:54
ghartz_way better :)17:54
ghartz_and easier17:54
MIG-ghartz_: k17:54
moppsActionParsnip, Thanks. You seem to have determined the hidden meaning behind my question and answered it.17:54
ActionParsnipi'm good like that17:55
ActionParsnipmopps: I'm not using Trusty but I know how to find out what you wanted :)17:55
MIG-ghartz_: will I be able to specify post data ?17:56
cmirceaIs it possible to join an Active Directory domain for centralized authentication? Is there an recommended way? (searching the web I can find many variants in blog posts) This is for 14.04.17:56
MIG-ghartz_: It seems that you can't with waf17:57
ghartz_MIG-, ?17:57
MIG-I'd like to specify post data17:57
ghartz_MIG-, with "wrk" you can specify a lua script17:58
ghartz_with method, body, headesr etc17:58
MIG-cool17:58
MIG-thanks!17:58
MIG-Oh one more question. Anyone happen to have benchmarked node.js server that is e-commerce like ?17:59
AnzudemDihttp://www.twitch.tv/unrealengine17:59
AnzudemDiunreal tournament 4 announcment, for anyone who is interested17:59
AnzudemDimaybe a new linux game coming out :P18:00
MIG-I'm benchmarking an /order endpoint that hits Stripe API for credit-card transactions.18:00
andyfiedany idea where the option to switch minimise on icon click on in 14.04? i have been hugely looking forward to it and can't seem to find any instructions that don't involve installing something else. i've looked in Unity Tweak, but can't see anything...18:01
moppsandyfied, minimise on launcher icon click?18:02
trismandyfied: ccsm/Unity plugin/Launcher/Minimize single window applications (unsupported)18:03
andyfiedmopps: yeah, searching google brings up the pre-14.04 solutions which involve installing stuff. i thought 14.04 would allow it, i just need to switch it on18:03
helprescuinggrubHiya- I am trial booted on an ubuntu disk on a machine that has had a windows partition install remove grub from the older Ubuntu-based system already on the drive. I have tried to install Boot-Repair by doing: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair18:03
helprescuinggrubsudo sed 's/trusty/saucy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-trusty.list18:03
helprescuinggrubsudo apt-get update18:03
helprescuinggrubsudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)  ... however upon doing the sudo sed... line, I recieve this error: sed: can't read /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-trusty.list: No such file or directory18:03
helprescuinggrub I am aware that this is a fairly basic error but am still pretty new with linux, and have been battling bad internet for a while- I'm just hoping someone can guide me through what I need to do18:03
AnzudemDiYup, unreal tournament 4 will be a linux game18:04
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helprescuinggrubanyone? :/18:06
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helprescuinggrublooking for assistance rescuing my Ubuntu partition from windows18:08
prepangolin /join #openstack18:08
helprescuinggrub@ me, prepangolin?18:09
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webfoxHow do I install ssh via command line?18:10
RaBhl1984bonjour18:11
helprescuinggrubanyone feling helpful out there?18:12
Jordan_Uwebfox: You want to install an ssh server?18:12
helprescuinggrubfeling18:12
webfoxJordan_U: yes18:12
Jordan_Uwebfox: sudo apt-get install openssh-server18:12
helprescuinggrubfeeling?* wow18:12
andyfiedwebfox, sudo apt-get install openssh-server18:12
webfoxok, thank you guys!18:12
helprescuinggrubeither of you guys know how to get through problems installing Boot-Repair?18:13
andyfiedhelprescuinggrub, sorry, not had to do it18:13
helprescuinggrubor other better ways to restore Grub to my Linux partition18:13
iDevelopDoesn't ubuntu come with openssh?18:14
Jordan_Uhelprescuinggrub: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot18:14
helprescuinggrubok thanks andyfied. anyone else?18:14
Jordan_UiDevelop: It comes with the client, not with openssh-server.18:14
gartralhey all, just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my mother's netbook, and I have aboout 3 hours to figure out what's going on with MTP... it doesn't correctly mount phones when iplug them in, and I have to toggle MTP off/on from phone, then it mounts, but the system "loses" the phone after 5 or so minutes18:15
yuri___Hi18:15
yuri___I have a question about  ubuntu drivers?18:15
iDevelopWhen I got ubuntu, it came with OpenSSH server and I could connect remotely straight away18:16
iDevelopyuri__: just ask18:16
Jordan_UiDevelop: Did you install Ubuntu server?18:16
helprescuinggrubJordan_U- thanks, I am looking at that now18:16
Cogito4816Hello.  I'm running Windows 7 in a Virtual Box VM on Ubuntu 14.04.  Does anyone know how to access files/folders that I've set to be shared between the two?18:17
iDevelopJordan_U: nope18:17
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iDevelopCogito4816: eww. Windows. Check in the explorer on the side for any external/network disks.18:17
Cogito4816Yeah, I feel dirty using this, iDevelop.  I couldn't find anything the first time, but I'll double-check.18:18
iDevelopCogito4816: windows sucks.18:18
Cogito4816That's why I use Ubuntu :P18:19
iDevelopBut you're using Windows in VM18:19
gartraliDevelop: there's one thing windows does well18:19
iDevelopWhy use Windows?18:19
Cogito4816Only reason is because visual novels don't work in Linux18:19
gartraliDevelop: and that's break18:19
iDevelopgartral: yes, corruption18:19
iDevelopMeh, close enough18:20
kafui_need help with pppoe with bandwith management in ubuntu18:20
moppskafui_, That's a tricky one, what do you want to do?18:20
kingmofohello18:21
yuri___iDevelop: Trying to download necessary drivers for Epson XP series printer18:21
Cogito4816iDevelop:  I'm looking in the "Network" tab in the file explorer, but all it shows me is the virtual machine itself, with all the usual shared files.18:21
kafui_i have setup pppoe server on ubuntu 13.10 using radius authentication.. i need radius attributes that can assign bandwith to clients by account if possible18:21
yuri___iDevelop: Using standard method- printers, add, drivers - system keeps locking up18:22
madphoenixDoes anybody know how to make non-local users (e.g. Winbind users) available for login at the graphical prompt in 14.04?  Or is there a way to enter an arbitrary username, instead of selecting from the list?18:22
jerrac#ansible18:22
yuri___iDevelop: Attempted to download directly from manufacturers website to no avail18:22
moppsCogito4816, Did you load guest additions?18:22
Cogito4816I'm not sure how to do that18:22
Cogito4816This is my first experience with a VM18:23
iDevelopI got no idea18:23
iDevelopI don't use Windows18:23
moppsCogito4816, You need this https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#additions-windows18:23
Cogito4816Thanks, I'll take a look18:23
moppsCogito4816, AFTER you have done that, you can do this: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders18:24
Cogito4816Wait, mopps, is this mounting Ubuntu on my Windows instance which is already mounted on Ubuntu?18:24
kingmofoim in school right now18:24
bgardnerCogito4816: In the VM, after you install guest additions, you do 'net use x: \\vboxsrv\sharename'18:24
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moppsCogito4816, bgardner has correctly summarised those 2 URLs for you18:25
bgardnerSorry mopps, hit enter before reading your comments.18:26
moppsWell, you don't *need* net use, but it will work and saves you having to use the stupid network browser18:26
bgardnerTrue, I just prefer CLI when given a choice.18:27
silkfoxanybody know what happened to the 13.04 raring extras repository?  I am probably missing something obvious but without commenting the extras lines out of sources.list I am unable to get apt-get update to exit cleanly which is tanking my puppet runs that depend on running that.  http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ used to have a raring link and now doesn't - any clue what stupidly obvious thing I am18:27
silkfoxmissing?18:27
Maadisonhey there. I'm curious to hear what folks think about installing & autoupdating phpmyadmin from a ppa. the version ubuntu provides is 2 years old. I'd be updating to get security fixes, but updating from an untrusted source doesn't seem very secure. thoughts?18:27
moppsbgardner, No need to apologise.18:27
moppsMaadison, It depends if you trust the PPA maintainer. If not, install from source.18:29
letstrythis!cpufreq18:29
JulinuxPlease people18:30
JulinuxI need user zabbix permission in /dev/sda18:30
Maadisonmopps: mmm installing from source doesn't get me autoupdates. can't win either way, I guess.18:30
dw1silkfox: could be because its no longer supported18:30
Julinuxubuntu 12.04 lts18:30
moppsMaadison, Autoupdates are a good way to have a system break on you without warning ... :-)18:30
madphoenixJulinux: what are you trying to do?18:30
dw1silkfox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions18:31
Maadisonmopps: understood. thinking I might prefer broken to hacked.18:31
dw1silkfox: better get to 14.04 soon :)18:31
yuri___Can anyone please help?18:31
Julinuxmadphoenix: I'm add in /etc/sudoers18:32
Julinuxmadphoenix: zabbix         ALL=NOPASSWD /dev/sda18:32
Julinuxmadphoenix: But it did not work18:32
yuri___hello18:33
moppsMaadison, if you're worried, make your phpadmin either not accessible from the web and tunnel in via VPN, or perhaps only accessible to your IP address, etc18:33
dw1yuri___: just ask a question18:33
tillbaksanyone know of any video players that can be controlled remotely like with a socket or http?18:33
yuri___dw1: already did see abive18:33
Julinuxmadphoenix: ???18:34
moppstillbaks, VLC has a remote18:34
madphoenixJulinux: that doesn't make sense, /dev/sda is not a command18:34
samrachDude18:34
samrachI got some problems with my laptop when I install ubuntu on it18:35
Julinuxmadphoenix: So what should I do?18:35
moppsJulinux, Do you want to give access to the /dev/sda disk drive?18:35
k1lJulinux: what do you want to do?18:35
JulinuxYes, only for the zabbix user18:35
ramrebol_Hello. I have xubuntu 14.04. Everything works fine except that when I suspend the laptop (for example, when I close the lid and reopen), appears the login window ok, and then I put my username and password, but then just a black window appears. I have searched in google but I have not found the solution. Someone can help me?18:35
* mmazing grabs some popcorn.18:35
dw1yuri___: hmm no idea, sorry http://google.com/search?q=epson+xp+ubuntu18:35
madphoenixJulinux: if you want to allow the zabbix user to do anything on your system do the following:18:35
k1lJulinux: you seem to have no clue at all and are going to ruin your system. so please tell us what you want to do and we can tell you the right way18:35
samrachCan someone help me with this ?18:36
madphoenixJulinux: zabbix ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL18:36
Maadisonmopps: yeah, those (ip addr / ssh) are a bit of a pain but may be the best route. thanks.18:36
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dw1samrach: whats the problem18:36
madphoenixJulinux: Defaults:zabbix !requiretty18:36
yuri___dw1: Thanks anyway, I appreciate it.18:36
mmazingJulinux: try and be more specific about what exactly you are trying to do, or what isn't working18:36
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moppsI believe he wants to give the zabbix user full access to the file system of /dev/sda18:37
samrachI once installed ubuntu on my laptop but it runs like a stone on it18:37
madphoenixright but that makes no sense18:37
samrachwhat it causes so ?18:37
madphoenixit's not a filesystem18:37
moppsit has a file system on it18:37
dw1samrach: if its a low-powered laptop you might consider using a different window manager than the default Unity18:37
mmazingmadphoenix: clearly he is using conflicting terms and doesn't understand what /dev/sda actually is, but let's try and use our brains yeah?18:37
k1lsamrach: give precise issues with most informations and error messages18:37
madphoenixit could, or it could be part of a filesystem, or an lvm18:38
dw1samrach: e.g. by installing gnome-session-flashback then choosing 'gnome no effects' at login18:38
tillbaksmopps, yeah just too bad vlc is so unstable18:38
wNan.logical.volume.manager++18:38
letstrythishow  do i adjust time  to live for my network?18:38
Julinuxmadphoenix: Where do I put Defaults: zabbix requiretty?18:38
samrachk1l: my laptop seems to run so heavy when ubuntu in one it18:39
madphoenixJulinux: in your sudoers file18:39
madphoenixmmazing: i'm not just being snarky, it's an important distinction of terms.  it may or may not be a complete filesystem on /dev/sda18:39
abduhey allof you18:39
qwdHow can I remap Caps Lock to be Escape when pressed one and Ctrl when held down? I found a guide explaining how to do it with Xcape but for that I need to remap it to Ctrl in Keyboard Layout Settings first and that seems to be gone in Ubuntu 14.04.18:39
letstrythishi18:39
dw1letstrythis: why would you want to do that......18:40
ramrebol_I think I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736   How can I solve it?18:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Black screen after login from suspend in Xubuntu 14.04" [High,Confirmed]18:40
samrachk1l: Is it cos of low laptop specification or something else18:40
djangohow do i raise my mic volume in 12.0418:40
letstrythisto better fight ddos's on both ends not everyone's isp is of good quality/broadcasting etc18:40
madphoenixJulinux: make sure you put the ! before requiretty, otherwise it will do the opposite of what you want18:40
letstrythisthe default is often way to low18:41
dw1django: try installing pavucontrol and run it18:41
djangough18:41
dw1django: gives lots of control over stuff18:41
Armag3dd0n1god bless google.18:41
mmazingmadphoenix: i understand, but since this person doesn't know that /dev/sda is exactly, we can probably assume he isn't doing anything complicated with it, or at least start there18:41
letstrythisi had the best results with ttl=128 or higher18:41
madphoenixmmazing: then jump in and help18:41
djangodw1, systems settings fixed it18:42
dw1letstrythis: oh, ive never adjusted that.18:42
Julinuxmadphoenix: Is correcty? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7417681/18:42
k1lsamrach: what are the specs of that laptop?18:42
letstrythisArmadillos: sometimes i wish google was a solid object i could throw through windows18:42
dw1letstrythis: dont even know where to do it18:42
dw1letstrythis: perhaps in the router ?18:42
k1lsamrach: and what ubuntu are you running exaclty? and which desktop?18:42
madphoenixJulinux: if you wish to allow the zabbix user to perform any operation on your system without a password or requiring a TTY, then yes18:42
madphoenixJulinux: that is the common way to set it up on a server being monitored by Zabbix18:43
helprescuinggrubthank you sir for helping me fix my windows grub owverwrite problem. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot was the only thing that finally worked- just now to boot thru grub to my ubuntu partition18:43
letstrythisdwl very much appreachiate the response ty18:43
k1lsamrach: (tell to the channel, i got to leave in a few minutes)18:43
samrachk1l: core i7, ram 4G, AMD: 2G ... Brand Dell18:43
dw1samrach: try gnome no effects.. or lubuntu if you really want low power18:43
mmazingi have a feeling that Julinux's problem is merely a permissions issue, but im at work and don't have time to troubleshoot this18:43
moppstht's effectively run as root, i would not call that a common way to admin a server  :-)18:43
samrachdw1:18:43
letstrythisyea the router can set it, but most let the adapters do their thing, aside from upnp hops and ttl...i don't have ttl routerside18:44
JulinuxBut for this the zabbix user must be in the right sudo group?18:44
Julinuxmadphoenix: But for this the zabbix user must be in the right sudo group?18:44
samrachIm so new to ubuntu so let me try installing gnome18:44
dw1letstrythis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55883/how-can-i-adjust-internet-settings-such-as-ttl-rwin-and-max-connections18:44
letstrythisclient side ttl seems to even persist past the ip...i think its set inside the packets18:45
djangowtf why isnt my youtube volume working18:45
letstrythisoh hey18:45
madphoenixJulinux: no, you're authorizing the zabbix user in sudoers, not a group18:45
madphoenixJulinux: groups in sudoers are prefixed with %18:46
samrachwhat the requirement specs lowest for unbuntu ?18:46
madphoenixmmazing: it may be, but this sudoers setup for zabbix is very common, and specifically recommended in their documentation, section 7.318:46
dw1samrach: not much, but different window managers take more or less power18:46
Julinuxmadphoenix: But if everything is right, because it gives permission error when I try one cat / dev / sda18:47
mmazingmadphoenix: my bad, i've never used zabbix, i thought he was just referring to a random user named 'zabbix'18:47
dw1samrach: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available18:48
moppsyou don't want to cat /dev/sda, that's a device, not a file ... well I *assume* you dont't want to, but its hard to tell here18:48
bekksmadphoenix: It may be suggested by zabbix - but it also opens up a security issue.18:48
dw1samrach: i use the gnome panel / classic / fallback18:48
dw1samrach: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback -- then just choose on login page18:48
dw1samrach: its lighter than default Unity18:49
dw1samrach: but there is even lighter... xfce18:49
dw1samrach: or lxde ..18:49
madphoenixJulinux: can you tell us exactly what you're trying to do?18:50
samrachYes so helpful18:51
Julinuxmadphoenix: Smartctl open device: /dev/sda failed: Permission denied18:51
compdocsamrach, I think installing ubuntu server, then the minimum Mate desktop works best :)18:52
Julinuxmadphoenix: I want to run this command with the zabbix user18:52
madphoenixJulinux: what is the smartctl command?18:53
moppsit's hard drive SMART monitoring18:54
madphoenixi know what it is, sorry i meant what exactly is the command you're using18:54
moppsit reads all the stuff the drive stores like power on hours, etc18:54
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compdocwhat is the smartctl command youre using?18:55
Julinuxmadphoenix: To check the smart hd, such as temperature, time connected, errors in reading and writing18:56
madphoenixJulinux:  I understand, but what is the exact command you're running to get the output you posted?18:56
madphoenixjust "smartctl /dev/sda" ?18:56
moppsThere are 264 users in #zabbix18:56
moppsNote the single hash18:56
snow_ruuh18:56
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Julinuxmadphoenix: I'm trying to create a script for zabbix collect information from the HD temperature, but usually the zabbix user needs to run the smartctl command and the command needs the permissions and access to / dev / sda18:57
madphoenixokay, so to test that you could first become the zabbix user (sudo su zabbix), then run your command (sudo smartctl /dev/sda)18:58
madphoenixThat should work based on the sudo config you posted.  You should also consider restricting it to just the smartctl program since using ALL opens up some security holes, as others here have rightly mentioned18:58
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jhfguineed some help with managing music on an android phone with ubuntu. Like itunes but on ubuntu. I'm using a galaxy note 2 runing PAC 4.4.2 and ubuntu 14.0419:01
Julinuxmadphoenix: I know. the problem is that at the time the zabbix are collecting, he will not be able to use sudo-s to be able to login then collect.19:01
Term1nalQuestion... I have a MAAS setup with 1 controller and 2 nodes. (great!) now... the node status is "Allocated to <user>" so I assume everything is good, right? Well when I run the juju bootstrap, it says there are no matching nodes. People saying that the nodes need to be in the "Ready" status... but  mine say allocated.19:01
madphoenixJulinux: you shouldn't need to do that.  Just prefix smartctl with "sudo" in your script.  no need for a login shell19:01
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moppsJulinux, have you also tried the official zabbix channel at #zabbix?19:02
jhfguii tried the .is_audio_player file. it only partially worked in that it would show in rhytembox that a device was connected but when i clicked on the device rhythmbox force closed19:02
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jhfguiwhat to you use to manage you music on and android phone using ubuntu?19:02
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Julinuxmadphoenix: It is. I've done it! the problem is that the permission error / dev / sda19:02
letstrythissudo gedit /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_metric_eth0 would making a setting here like this set my adapters metrics?19:03
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WolfLambertWhat do you guys' Ubuntu desktops look like?19:03
bekksletstrythis: No.19:03
madphoenixJulinux: whats up with the spaces in / dev / sda?19:03
Julinuxmopps: not nosy, I'm talking not of zabbix19:04
Julinuxno19:04
Julinuxmadphoenix: no19:04
bekksletstrythis: What are you actually trying to accomplish?19:04
Julinuxmadphoenix: is /dev/sda19:04
ravigehlotI did a dist-upgrade on my Ubuntu and it update Grub to 2.02 beta test. I am not sure why it would update it to Beta. But that is where I am. I can't find GRUB_TIMEOUT anywhere. Where would it be at?19:04
madphoenix/dev/sda mode is brw-rw---- ?19:05
Beldarravigehlot, gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub in here.19:07
Julinuxmadphoenix: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 Mai  8 11:16 /dev/sda19:07
madphoenixJulinux: can you execute smartctl /dev/sda as your user with sudo?19:07
Julinuxmadphoenix: Yes, but it asks for password19:08
ravigehlotBeldar: there is no /etc/default. I have /etc/grub.d19:08
ravigehlotBeldar: nevermind ;)19:09
ConsoleHey there, is there a reason why “rm -rf DIRECTORY” wouldn’t work? It’s a symbolic link and I’m root19:10
Beldarravigehlot, YOu found it I assume using the command, that is where you adjust grub most if the time.19:10
ravigehlotBeldar: After the change, how do I update grub?19:10
nicnmConsole: who is the link owned by?19:10
Beldarravigehlot, sudo update-grub in the terminal19:10
madphoenixJulinux: I'm stumped.  Did you enable selinux by chance?19:10
xtbmanIn Ubuntu 13.10, when I right click on a USB drive and click format, and then confirm the format, it switches to my home directory and doesn't change anything on the USB. Any ideas?19:10
Consolenicnm: It’s owned by root19:11
nicnmthen you need to be root, otherwise root won't let you do it :D19:11
ravigehlotBeldar: thanks man! you have been really helpful. appreciated it19:11
nicnmoh my bad19:11
nicnmread that wrong19:11
Julinuxmadphoenix: No, no selinux19:13
madphoenixthats the only time i've seen permission denied with the sudo config you posted, so i'm not sure where to go next19:13
madphoenix(when selinux is enabled, that is)19:13
nicnmConsole: according to cyberciti.biz you `rm linkDirName` then `unlink linkDirName`19:14
moppsJulinux, are you logged in locally?19:14
Julinuxmopps: No, remote19:15
moppsJulinux, That may be a factor19:15
JuneBUGJulinux ??19:15
JuneBUGare you the guy who created Julinux?19:16
moppsJulinux, Is this an ubuntu server with a standard config?19:16
Julinuxmopps: That is not the case as I can with sudo asks for password when19:16
JulinuxJuneBUG: ???19:16
Julinuxmopps: Yes, standard19:16
RippSteakfaceAnyone here know of a way to adjust icon spacing on the desktop in Ubuntu/Xubuntu? These icons are way too far apart19:16
moppsJulinux, that is kind of weird. I'm confused too. You've double checked your sudoers file?19:17
Julinuxmopps: The problem is not because I am accessing remote is permission issue19:17
WolfLambertRippSteakface: on the desktop or in the apps bar?19:17
RippSteakfaceon the desktop :)19:17
Julinuxmopps: Look19:17
nicnmConsole: you do have one strange problem, sorry I'm useless19:18
RippSteakfaceTrash, etc19:18
WolfLambertRippSteakface: you can right-click on the desktop19:18
WolfLambertAnd stop aligning icons19:18
WolfLambertThen you can place them manually19:18
WolfLambertI'll search if there's another way too19:18
BeldarRippSteakface, Try right clicking the desktop and turning off the organize desktop and keep aligned, in ubuntu at least19:18
JuneBUGJulinux so are you or are you not the guy who created the Julinux Distro?19:18
RippSteakfacebut there's no way to adjust the grid? it's way too big19:19
WolfLambertRippSteakface: I can't find that.19:19
WolfLambertIt's not in the settings nor in Unity Tweak Tool19:19
WolfLambertBut I don't use the desktop :)19:19
JulinuxJuneBUG: Yes19:19
JuneBUGahh19:20
JuneBUGhave you released any recent Distro?19:20
JuneBUGI have not seen any19:20
Julinuxmopps: My suders is19:20
Julinuxmopps: zabbix          ALL=NOPASSWD /usr/sbin/smartcrl -A /dev/sda19:20
WolfLambertI think an op should kick "mywifewantcock"19:20
moppsJulinux, is that the only thing in the file?19:21
WolfLambertIf you look at his whois… I don't think he's here for Ubuntu help19:21
bekksJulinux: So is it Julinux or Ubuntu you're currently on? :)19:21
loaWolfLambert, is it was hard to find that nick in all others?19:21
WolfLambertNo it just joined19:21
Julinuxmopps: yes19:22
Julinuxbekks: Ubuntu Server19:23
Julinuxbekks: Julinux Desktop19:23
mistawrightI have been having issues with pac manager after updating to ubuntu 14.04 and i see that others are having issues with this as well. here is the issue i get when trying to use pac manager: Can't locate object method "new" via package "Gnome2::Vte::Terminal" (perhaps you forgot to load "Gnome2::Vte::Terminal"?) at /opt/pac/lib/PACTerminal.pm line 49119:23
mistawrighthas anyone else had this issue and resolved it?19:23
Julinuxbekks: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ultumix/files/JULinOX_OS%20Revision%201/JULinOX_OS_ETPE_2013_Revision1.iso/download19:25
bekksJulinux: I wont download it.19:25
moppsJulinux, how is that working without a : after NOPASSWD?19:30
Julinuxbekks: :(19:30
moppsJulinux, when i try to edit that with visudo it will NOT accept it19:30
bekksJulinux: It's nothing more than just another Wallbuntu, to me.19:31
moppsJulinux, You are using visudo to edit the sudoers file, and not editing it with your regular editor?19:31
Julinuxmopps: I changed the permissions to 64019:32
moppsthe permissions of what?19:32
Julinuxbekks: :(19:32
akurilinDo you guys know if Amazon pulled 12.04 from their list of free AMIs in EC2?19:33
akurilinLooks like 14.04 is the only option now19:33
Julinuxbekks: And ubuntu is nothing more than a walldebian. the catty version of debian19:33
moppsJulinux, the sudoers file you posted to me is parsed with a syntax error by visudo.19:33
bekksJulinux: No one forces you to use it.19:33
moppsJulinux, I am logging off now, but I am sure your sudoers file is not correctly formatted, or that you aren't using visudo to edit it. And this be where the problem is.19:36
sbjcan I write a script around ssh so that it will run one command and exit?19:36
sbjssh <host> "command" is behaving unexpectedly19:36
bekkssbj: Define "unexpectedly" please.19:36
sbjbekks: the command in that example (ssh <host> "command" should be run on the remote server, right?19:38
bekkssbj: Thats not an answer to my question.19:38
madphoenixmops: sudo wouldn't work at all, even for his other users, if /etc/sudoers was invalid, no?19:39
bekksmadphoenix: correct.19:39
sbjbekks: sorry, allow me to be clear. I expect it to run that command remotely. Instead it appears to be running locally.19:39
bekkssbj: So can you provide details? Which command? What happens? What do you expect? How did you test it? Why do you use ""?19:40
JulinuxAnd because the command that only root can run wheel when I put in sudoers, the only thing it gives error Perm is / dev / sda19:41
sbjbekks: certainly. I have a list of about 20 servers and I'd like to check the jdk on each. so I have a loop going through the servers in my ssh config, running the following for each: ssh <host> "echo $JAVA_HOME". When I ssh into the server and run the command there, $JAVA_HOME is different19:42
bekkssbj: I'd rather check  java -version  instead of $JAVA_HOME.19:43
samrachIs ubuntu from its official website good ?19:45
sbjbekks: eh, there were some other considerations that made JAVA_HOME a better check on each. at any rate I've discovered the problem19:45
sbjmy local server subs $JAVA_HOME before running the ssh command19:45
c5lijIs it possible to move the VirtualBox VMs folder to another hard drive?19:45
bekksc5lij: Sure.19:45
sbjso it's just printing the $JAVA_HOME of local...19:45
sbj:)19:45
c5lijbekks how?19:45
sbjfixed with ssh <host> "bash -c 'echo $JAVA_HOME'"19:46
bekkssbj: Use: ssh <host> 'echo $JAVA_HOME'19:46
bekksc5lij: By just moving it, detaching all the disk files, and reattach them from their new location.19:46
samrachubuntu server or desktop is better ?19:47
c5lijbekks okay19:47
bekkssamrach: That depends on your requirements.19:47
samrachI think I need it for gaming and with graphic design19:49
samrachbekks: so which one fits both of them ?19:49
bekkssamrach: What do you need a server for, then? :)19:49
anushbmxmysql in terminal shows19:49
anushbmxERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)19:49
yorjog19:49
yorjo?19:49
JanuszHello. Is it possible to have alongside on one PC both Lubuntus: 14.04 and daily 14.10 (in case, if 14.10 won't work, then 14.04 will stand ready)?19:50
samrachmaybe, with online games ?19:50
brontosaurusrexsamrach, you want desktop.19:51
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craigbass1976anushbmx, is mysql running?19:52
anushbmxyes craigbass197619:52
nicnmsamrach: desktop is what your looking for, cause its basically a server w/ a gui19:52
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craigbass1976anushbmx, do you see any errors when you restart it?19:56
nicnmsamrach: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=All&category=Gaming&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=Active for almost all your gaming needs...almost19:56
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anushbmxcraigbass1976: when restarting it stops but it dosent start19:58
anushbmxit says fail19:58
muslimdffffffffffffffffffffff19:59
craigbass1976anushbmx, that's probably why you can't get in.  What's the error log ( t/var/log/mysql something ) telling you?20:03
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ibmubntu.it20:04
anushbmxcraigbass1976: it dosent say much20:05
anushbmxhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qqG8v28Y20:05
Jack_Laiwas__Хая всем)20:09
craigbass1976anushbmx, was that the error log?20:10
anushbmxyes that is error.loh20:11
anushbmxerror.log20:11
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anushbmxcraigbass1976: i think its time for me to sleep20:15
anushbmxcan you type the solution if u can20:15
anushbmxwill read it20:15
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ronaldsmazitishello, how to disable sleep after time20:15
ronaldsmazitisI kinda have it disabled but I'm using xfce because nautilus have no thumbnails in 14.0420:16
ronaldsmazitisso it does go to sleep anyway20:17
xanguaronaldsmazitis: Check your Energy settings, and I can see thumbnails fine in nautilus20:18
ronaldsmazitiswell I upgraded from 12.0420:18
ronaldsmazitishad problems with mysql, php, apache, nautilus and energy aswell20:19
ronaldsmazitisbefore that qt apps suddenly wasn't working, now does20:19
ronaldsmazitisatleast20:19
ronaldsmazitisenergy settings say it shouldn't go to sleep20:21
ronaldsmazitishelp20:21
ronaldsmazitisanybody20:22
ronaldsmazitisnobody knows how to turn off sleeping20:22
ronaldsmazitis?20:22
smoovephave you check the power options in the bios?20:23
ryan_Anyone alive?20:23
ronaldsmazitisboth options in ubuntu settings is set to20:23
ronaldsmazitisnever20:24
ryan_Oops nevermind somebody is alive.20:24
ronaldsmazitiswhy it goes20:24
ronaldsmazitisto sleep20:24
ronaldsmazitisI'M ALIVE20:24
ryan_I have  question: Is there a way to install like GNOME 3 and Keep Unity and I can change desktop sessions in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?20:24
ronaldsmazitisYES20:25
ronaldsmazitisinstalling environment is just as easy as sudo apt-get install20:25
SchrodingersScat!ubuntu-gnome | ryan_20:25
ubotturyan_: Ubuntu GNOME is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses !GNOME as the default desktop environment instead of Unity. For more info or to download, see http://www.ubuntugnome.org/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage20:25
cyberalex4lifehello! /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri3.so.0: undefined symbol: xcb_send_fd20:25
cyberalex4lifeanyone know some fix to this in ubuntu 14.0420:26
cyberalex4lifeit is a wine problem20:26
smoovepshould give you a choice at the login screen..20:26
ryan_Alright I will install Gnome 3 and see if it gives me a choice at the login screen20:27
ronaldsmazitishttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/25133/ubuntu-server-continuously-goes-to-sleep20:28
cyberalex4liferyan: After gnome 3.8 got to ubuntu, i just can't leave without gnome-shell20:28
smoovepi installed kubuntu ontop of 14.04LTS i like the results...20:30
samrachDoes ubuntu support programmes such Auto-Cad, Chief Architect ?20:30
corkeyHi everyone20:31
EpicCyndaquilsamrach: check winedb if you want to run a windows program in linux (with some work), or alternativeto.net to look for other options20:31
samrachok, bro.20:32
samrachthanks anyway20:32
EpicCyndaquilsomeone else might have some experience with those specifically though, samrach20:32
willwhsamrach: the honest answer is, not very well20:35
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samrachhmmm... maybe, still I need to use auto-cad on Wins 7 instead20:38
samrachubuntu so good to use but lots of programs dont seem to support,20:38
jtruckswhat file(s) contain dependency lists for installed packages?20:41
jmaderohi all - I've jumped in here a few times trying to resolve this and no one has the answer. I use two languages on my system, English is set in every location from what I can tell but GDM and some software (most notably Synaptic) show up in my second language20:42
jmaderomaking it impossible for me to have two languages installed20:42
jhutchins_wkjtrucks: What are you trying to find out?  What are you trying to do?20:42
jmadero(not fluent in the second language)20:42
jtrucksjhutchins_wk: trying to change the listed dependency so a package stops complaining. :)20:42
jtrucksit has a dependency pegged to a version but as it turns out that version is wrong.20:43
jhutchins_wkjtrucks: Report it as a bug and get it fixed.20:43
jtrucksso, somewhere I suspect I can change that without re-rolling the package.20:43
jmaderojtrucks: nope, you'd have to recreate the package20:43
jmaderoand it's not recommended20:43
jmaderodo you have an outdated package that it's complaining about?20:43
jtrucksit's not something that comes in the distro.20:44
jmaderomuch better to just get the dependencies correct20:44
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jtrucksno, we're not rolling back to an older version of perl cuz they screwed up the package :)20:44
jmaderojtrucks: then report a bug, or repackage it20:44
jmaderoif it's absolutely necessary20:44
jtrucksk thanks.20:44
jtrucksy'all rock. thanks tons.20:45
zedrichjtrucks: your welcome20:46
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cadeskywalkerexit20:49
JonnyDamnnoxhey how can I install dkms without internet connection? how do I compile it?20:51
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: why do you want to compile it...?20:52
new0hey, why i can't join to #php?20:52
jmaderojust download the debian packages20:52
new0it's say for invite only20:52
jmaderonew0: no clue, I just joined20:52
daftykinsnew0: this is not freenode support, please ask in #freenode20:52
JonnyDamnnoxI can't I need it for a drive for my broadcom bcm wifi20:52
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qwdHow can I remap Caps Lock to be Escape when pressed one and Ctrl when held down? I found a guide explaining how to do it with Xcape but for that I need to remap it to Ctrl in Keyboard Layout Settings first and that seems to be gone in Ubuntu 14.04.20:52
new0daftykins, ok. tnx20:52
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: did you google it?20:53
JonnyDamnnoxI downloaded some dkms tar file but no instruction in the readme file20:53
jmaderowell if it's normal20:53
jmadero./autogen.sh20:53
jmaderoor ./configure.sh20:53
jmaderothen make20:53
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JonnyDamnnoxI use this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/175104/how-do-i-install-bcm43142-wireless-drivers-for-dell-vostro-3460-356020:53
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: what version of Ubuntu are you running?20:54
jmaderothis should not be needed any longer . . .20:54
JonnyDamnnoxehh the current version amd64 stable20:54
jmaderoum well - according to those instructions those are debian packages20:55
JonnyDamnnoxnot needed? then why no internet connection in the installation?20:55
jmaderoand it has the install instructions20:55
raubHow do I do static IP in network manager? I thought you would just edit /etc/network/interface and restart NetworkManager20:55
raub14.04 here20:55
jmaderoraub: my understanding is you can't, one of the drawbacks from network manager20:55
jmaderoI could be wrong though20:55
jmaderoI know the Enlightenment people are trying to replace it in E17 because of the limitation20:55
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox:  that's just a debian package "sudo dpkg -i .....deb"20:56
jmaderowhere .... is the package name20:56
JonnyDamnnoxno, I need dkms as dependency20:56
raubjmadero: I was kinda following http://askubuntu.com/questions/246077/how-to-setup-a-static-ip-for-network-manager-in-virtual-box-on-ubuntu-server20:56
JonnyDamnnoxcie*20:56
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: well again the instructions say that the current driver supports this....20:56
jmaderoso I don't get why yours doesn't20:56
jmaderoif you're running 14.0420:56
nick0R0Hello20:57
JonnyDamnnoxwhat20:57
raubjmadero: I thought ubuntu is going to netowkr manager and systemd and there is not escape from that20:57
JonnyDamnnoxbroadcom is nonefree right?20:57
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: was that link you provided what you're trying to accomplish20:57
jmaderowhich seems to be getting support for a card in a Dell Vostro20:58
JonnyDamnnoxthis? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/175104/how-do-i-install-bcm43142-wireless-drivers-for-dell-vostro-3460-356020:58
jmaderoyes20:58
JonnyDamnnoxok...20:58
jmaderoit says explicitly that as of 12.04 the driver supports the card20:59
jmaderoso I don't get why you're trying to compile dkms20:59
JonnyDamnnoxwhat do you mean? I don't have dkms installed now on my ubuntu20:59
jmaderoyes but that doesn't answer why you have to compile it .....21:00
jmaderosudo apt-get install dkms21:00
JonnyDamnnoxnope, I don't have internet21:00
raubjmadero: Lemme reboot the vm then and see if it will work. So windows...21:00
nick0R0Getting this crazy error after trying to update in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418258/21:01
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/trusty/main/base/dkms21:01
jmaderojust download the debian package, put it on a thumb drive21:01
smoovepexit21:01
jmaderoand install it with sudo dpkg -i ....21:01
nick0R0Looks bad, anyone know how to solve?21:01
JonnyDamnnoxok thank you21:01
jmaderoyou don't want to compile....trust me21:01
JonnyDamnnoxI'm on another pc ;)21:01
JonnyDamnnoxof course21:01
nick0R0Can anyone please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418258/21:05
nick0R0Crazy error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418258/21:06
jmaderonick0R0: not really a crazy errror, you have dependency problems21:07
jmaderoyou'll have to track them down individually21:07
nick0R0jmadero: What's the lisb not configured yet business? Did typical google leg work, found nothing21:10
jmaderonick0R0: resolve the dependencies and I bet those will go away21:10
R0-Fel21:10
R0-FHello21:11
R0-FHello?21:11
sport_billnick0R0, try sudo apt-get install -f21:11
shadykhanhi21:11
shadykhananyone know why when i fn + f3 my computer goes to sleep?21:12
R0-FSorry, I am just testing out Xchat. So far I am confused as heck!21:12
R0-Fjoin #trisquel21:12
ponkeshadykhan: because the keys are bound to that21:12
shadykhanu have to do21:12
shadykhan"/join # chanenl"21:12
R0-FSorry21:12
shadykhanponke, has it always been like that21:12
nick0R0jmadero:  Can you be more specific - it says "depends on lsb-core (>= 4.1+Debian11ubuntu4)" for all21:13
nick0R0sport_bill: checking21:13
ponkeprobably not, computers are a fairly new invention21:13
Ben64nick0R0: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install -f"21:13
jmaderonick0R0: dpkg -s lsb-core | grep 'Version'21:14
raubOk, rebooting made that work21:14
shadykhanponke, its just strange f2 and f3 are for my brightness and they dont work kinda just left me confuse21:14
shadykhanconfused*21:14
Ben64f3 is normally sleep21:15
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JonnyDamnnoxhow do I freaking compile these packages?? http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/precise/firmware-b43-installer21:17
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: stop saying compile21:18
jmaderoyou're not trying to compile21:18
nick0R0Ben64: "sudo apt-get install -f" - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418320/21:18
JonnyDamnnoxthey have no make or configure or whatnot21:18
JonnyDamnnoxi don't have internet21:18
puffAfternoon.  I'm on 13.10.  I understand 14.04 LTS is available.  Can I upgrade to LTS simply by accepting the upgrade prompt, or do I have to do something special to switch to the LTS track?21:18
JonnyDamnnoxon my other pc21:18
jmaderoyes that's not compiling21:18
jmaderoyou're trying to install21:18
jmaderothat's it21:18
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jmaderoyou'll get bad advice if you use the wrong terminology21:18
sport_billJonnyDamnnox, are you sure there are no wireless networks available in network manager?21:18
CyberGabbershadykhan: fn + f7 and fn + f8 don't work for brightness?21:18
JonnyDamnnoxok then where is the search page for installation packages?21:18
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: you see where it says "all"21:19
JonnyDamnnoxI can't even choose one21:19
jmaderounderneath firmware-b43-installer herunterladen21:19
JonnyDamnnoxthere is no wlan21:19
shadykhanCyberGabber, my toshiba has brightness at f2,f3 so thats why i was wondering21:19
sport_billJonnyDamnnox, ok21:19
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: just click on "all"21:19
jmaderoit'll take you to the servers that have the package, then you download the debian package and install it21:19
jmaderoand this is not the same as compiling - just say you are trying to install without having internet access21:20
JonnyDamnnoxahh super21:20
JonnyDamnnoxokok21:20
JonnyDamnnoxI hope that works21:20
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: sometimes you'll see "all" sometimes you'll see some architecture21:20
jmaderothen you'll have to choose between x_64 and i38621:20
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JonnyDamnnoxmy brain explodes21:21
nick0R0jmadero: Version: 4.1+Debian11ubuntu421:21
jmaderowell, that looks right21:21
JonnyDamnnoxgee I need b43 fw cutter first ok, I'm sure I'll find that21:23
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: yes installing this way sucks21:24
jmaderoyou could end up having to track down lots of dependencies21:24
Ben64nick0R0: where is sudo apt-get update?21:24
jmaderoI still don't get why you're having to do this if you're running Ubuntu 14.0421:24
jmaderonick0R0: yes do sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get -f install21:25
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nick0R0Ben64: "sudo apt-get update" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418358/21:27
jmaderonick0R0: now sudo apt-get -f install21:27
nick0R0jmadero: "sudo apt-get install -f" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418368/21:30
jmaderocrap you did really break something21:30
jmaderowhat about sudo apt-get upgrade21:30
Ben64well there are repositories for maverick in there21:31
jmaderoah there is21:31
jmaderonick0R0: how did you add these old repos?21:31
jmaderoand why21:31
Ben64and an unknown epson repo21:31
jmaderoyeah your repos are messed up - not sure how you added them21:32
jmaderoor why21:32
jmaderonice catch Ben6421:32
Ben64jmadero: thats why i like the pastebin for apt-get update :)21:33
jmaderonice trick - I'll remember that21:33
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jmaderoI thought you just were making sure it completed21:33
ineedhelpguys21:34
jmaderonick0R0: you never want to mix repos like that21:34
ineedhelpHelp me please! :(21:34
jmaderoand gals21:34
jmaderoineedhelp: please don't just come in and say help me please....21:34
jmaderoask your question21:34
Ben64ineedhelp: you'd definitely need to explain your problem in as much detail as possible in order to get help21:34
ponkehelp us help you21:34
jmaderoyes - and include "guys and gals" ;)21:34
jmaderothere are plenty of women in the room21:34
ponkeat least 5!21:34
jmaderotjat21:35
jmaderothat's "plenty" right?21:35
jmadero;21:35
jmadero;)21:35
ineedhelpjmadero and Ben64 did i break ubuntu 13.10?21:35
jmaderoineedhelp: please ask your question21:35
jmaderoI don't know - did you?21:35
jmaderolol21:35
ineedhelpLast night i was updating it and half way through my laptop's battery died and it was half way through the upgrade21:35
jmaderoyes probably broke it21:35
jmaderoI did somethign similar a couple weeks ago - forgot I had thrown in a sudo shutdown -h 3021:36
ineedhelpjmadero would the GRUB repair option fix ubuntu or would the live cd be only choice21:36
sigint88hello al21:36
sigint88*all21:36
jmaderoduring an upgrade21:36
jmaderoineedhelp: grub repair might work but I tend to just fresh install21:36
jmaderohopefully you have your partitions right21:36
jmadero(ie. home partition and data separate from root)21:36
jmaderoif not....that sucks21:36
ineedhelpok21:36
ineedhelpthanks21:37
Lannister69!Xauthority21:37
sigint88i was wondering if i could ask for assistance on understanding smartmontools for ubuntu and WD HDD21:37
Lannister69!lightDM21:37
Lannister69!lightdm21:37
Lannister69!grub21:37
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub221:37
Ben64Lannister69: you can private message ubottu if you want to do that stuff21:38
nick0R0jmadero: Ben64 "sudo apt-get upgrade" - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418391/21:38
jmaderoI thikn "ineedhelp" thought I was an asshole ;)21:38
jmaderonick0R0: your problem is that you have bad repos21:38
jmaderoand now you have conflicts apparently21:38
dsnydersHi all!  Is there a way of selecting two windows and automatically tiling them on the desktop, rather than having to manually resize them?21:38
Lannister69Ben64 how do I private message anyone?21:38
Ben64Lannister69: usually /msg21:39
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jmaderoooooooooops21:39
nick0R0jmazaredo: "Don't know how you added these old repos - and why?" Can you please explain?21:39
jmaderosorry moderator21:39
jmaderonick0R0: you have bad repos in your mix (maverick and that epson stuff)21:39
nick0R0jmadero: How did I get "bad repos"? and possible fix?21:39
dsnydersLannister69: you could try right clicking on their name and see if there is an option there.21:39
dsnydersMissed him by that much!21:40
TheKernel-workHi, I upgraded to 14.04 and I have 2 major issues. First issue is random windows will start flickering until I click something. I did some searching on ubuntu forums and I see others having this issue but no resolutions. Second issue is if my screen goes idle to my login screen and I try to type in the password to log back in, it does not accept the keys and I have to reset lightdm. I have not found this issue on the forums. Are these know issues wit21:40
TheKernel-workh fixes yet?21:40
nick0R0jmadero: Epson stuff came recently I believe attempting to install drivers for new printer21:40
jmaderoyeah it looks like it - those are way out of date then21:40
jmaderoand that's not surprising21:40
nick0R0jmadero: Printer does not work yet even after drivers were installed. Other problems subsequently followed21:41
jmaderoyeah I think that repository borked stuff up21:41
jmaderohmmm21:41
jmaderoBen64: suggestions....I don't have any21:41
nick0R0jmadero: How do I fix repo situation?21:41
jmaderowell the problem is packages were installed from them I think21:41
jmaderowhich is causing your probles21:41
jmaderoproblems21:41
nick0R0Ben64: thoughts?21:42
JonnyDamnnoxif you don't use the internet while installing ubuntu they don't even install g++21:42
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: I told you it would be no fun....21:42
Ben64jmadero: i have to leave for work in like 2 minutes, but i'd purge all the packages from the epson repository especially and reinstall the normal ubuntu one(s)21:42
jmaderoyou can't connect it with a cord?21:42
JonnyDamnnoxisn't there a whole offline package with everything that is needed?21:42
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: no - not without cloning a repo21:42
jmaderowhich will tick off Canonical21:42
JonnyDamnnoxohhh21:42
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jmaderoand waste days of time21:42
slipnotis there any guides on how to get a windows machine to see a ubuntu machine just to use the printer? I cant get the windows machine to see it.21:42
JonnyDamnnoxno some version is different or whatever21:43
JonnyDamnnoxI give up21:43
JonnyDamnnoxgood bye new laptop21:43
jmaderoslipnot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu21:43
slipnotjmadero ill take a look thanks21:43
nick0R0Ben64: Thanks for your help. I'll give it a shot.21:43
JonnyDamnnoxno=now21:43
jmaderoJonnyDamnnox: you're running 14.04 on that new laptop?21:44
nick0R0Ben64: jmadero Proper way to purge packages from epson repo?21:44
Ben64i'm not sure if ppa-purge works on non-ppas21:44
JonnyDamnnoxI downloaded the newest file from the ubuntu page21:44
jmaderoit doesn't from what I recall21:45
JonnyDamnnoxyep it is 14.0421:45
jmaderonick0R0: purging all from a certain repo isn't easy.....dang21:45
jmaderoI mean a google search found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/37531/how-do-i-remove-all-packages-from-a-certain-repository21:45
jmaderobut that's a scripting solution21:46
jmaderoand might break other things :-/21:46
nick0R0jmadero: reading...21:46
JonnyDamnnoxIs the new ubuntu version ok with the broadcom bcm43142 drive??21:47
JonnyDamnnoxcompatible21:47
sport_billJonnyDamnnox, http://askubuntu.com/questions/459654/ubuntu-14-04-drivers-for-broadcom-bcm4314221:47
JonnyDamnnoxok thx21:48
sport_billJonnyDamnnox, try to install this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/bcmwl-kernel-source21:48
sport_billyou can plug an ethernet cable to make your life easier until you get wifi working21:49
jmaderonick0R0: honestly this is a crappy situation :-/21:49
jmaderonick0R0: do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list21:50
jmaderosee if you see any maverick lines in there21:50
daftykinsjmadero: advising to run graphical applications with 'sudo' is bad practice. 'gksu' / 'gksudo' should be used instead21:53
david1yo21:54
daftykinshello21:54
david1so I have some minor annoying unresolved dependencies21:54
jmaderodaftykins: sure - I still don't get why it's bad practice but I know the rule21:54
jmaderoI don't follow it myself ;)21:54
david1which I acquired when I upgraded to 14.0421:54
daftykinsjmadero: heh, yeah i couldn't explain it either but i've seen it do bad things21:54
david1they all appear to be issues linked to dictionaries-common not upgrading properly21:55
jmaderolol21:55
daftykinsdavid1: if you could use paste.ubuntu.com to share your output errors that'd be handy21:56
david1http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418448/21:57
JuestoHello, i have a big issue21:58
Juestoim trying to use gnome21:58
Juestowith unity installed21:58
JonnyDamnnoxYEAH WORKED21:58
Juestoand all i get is an unloaded session, help21:58
jmaderoJuesto: and what's the problem - IRC convention is to say everything in one go instead of 4 lines ;)21:58
jmaderowhat does unloaded session mean?21:58
Juestoits happening on 14.0421:59
k1lJuesto: choose gnome on login screen should work21:59
JonnyDamnnoxI installed I installed bcmwl-kernel-source21:59
Juestoempty screen with nautilus.21:59
Juestono gnome-shell or unity21:59
david1just tell us it all in one line21:59
JonnyDamnnoxit was in conflict with this wireless-bmc blabla package21:59
jmaderoJuesto: interesting . . . I've seen problems on 13.10 but on 14.04 works fine for me21:59
jmaderoJuesto: how did you install gnome shell and did you upgrade?21:59
Juestoneither compiz, when i open a terminal to "debug" what happened i find that neither unity or gnome-shell has launched21:59
akimsoccerhey guys, im a linux noob, i haven't been updating for a while is maybe my current problem22:00
Juestojmadero: 14.04 from the start22:00
sport_billJonnyDamnnox, nice22:00
daftykinsakimsoccer: yeah, not doing updates isn't good22:00
k1lJuesto: how did you isntall gnome? and how did you start that?22:00
jmaderoakimsoccer: please just say the problem - . . .22:00
JonnyDamnnoxoh I mean: I installed bcmwl-kernel source22:00
akimsocceri got this error when i did sudo apt-get update22:00
jmaderopastebin!22:00
akimsoccerW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>22:00
jmaderoah22:00
Juestoinstalled lubuntu dvd then installed everything else with synaptic/package manager.22:00
JonnyDamnnoxso now I can start the installation all over to get a new clean system ;P22:00
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Juestok1l: gnome is on ubuntu repos by default.22:00
jmaderoakimsoccer: that just says that you have a ppa that isn't trusted22:01
daftykinsakimsoccer: 13.04 is dead, you'll want to install 14.0422:01
k1lakimsoccer: raring is out of support. you should upgrade imidatly22:01
sport_billJonnyDamnnox, isn't it clean now?22:01
Juesto.......22:01
jmaderoakimsoccer: +1 to all of that - upgrade all the way to 14.0422:01
JuestoSo?22:01
akimsoccerbut i haven't been able to upgrade that is my problem22:01
Juestohelp?22:01
jmaderoakimsoccer: http://www.tecmint.com/upgrade-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-to-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander/22:01
k1lJuesto: *sigh* did you install ubuntu-desktop, or gnome-shell only, or ubuntu-gnome-desktop?.....22:01
jmaderoJuesto: sorry no clue22:01
akimsoccerim on linux mint 1522:02
Juestok1l: its complex, want package list?22:02
jmaderooh....then no clue22:02
akimsoccerso can i upgrade then?22:02
k1lakimsoccer: please ask the mint support then22:02
jmadero+122:02
k1l!mint | akimsoccer22:02
JonnyDamnnoxno I installed all kind of stuff22:02
JonnyDamnnoxkinds*22:02
akimsoccerok thanks22:02
Juestok1l: i went trough a complex package setup, i also excluded all ubuntu defaults "hacks"22:02
JonnyDamnnoxok how do I do this while the normal installation??22:03
k1lJuesto: its not complex. depending on what you installed there are known issues22:03
jmadero"complex package setup"22:03
Juestook, want the package list¡22:03
jmaderoI think it's two commands....22:03
Juestolol no.22:03
jmaderoto install gnome shell through the ppa22:03
k1lJuesto: ok, so you changed a lot of stuff and now wonder that its not working as expected22:03
jmaderoJuesto: I just did this like last week22:03
jmaderoit is literally 2 steps22:03
Juestok1l: Dont say its my fault.22:03
jmaderoif you did more than that, then you did something harder than need be and likely borked your system22:03
JuestoAnd i think i have added the gnome3 ppa22:03
Juestobut not sure if it works22:04
k1lJuesto: if you cant even tell which packages you installed to get gnome desktop or what you changed, yes.22:04
JuestoGDM doesnt work properly22:04
jmaderoJuesto: yes it does22:04
jmaderojust how you installed it doesn't work22:04
david1http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418448/22:04
jmaderoit works for me just fine, along with KDE, Unity, and Cinnamon22:04
k1lJuesto: since ubuntu-gnome its very very easy to get gnome desktop working. so i wonder what you did22:04
Juestonot for me, it shows an empty screen with "transparent" top bar22:04
jmaderoJuesto: yes because you did something wrong ;)22:04
jmaderoJuesto: how did you install it22:05
JuestoDo i need to give package history?22:05
jmaderoie. what is this "complex method" that you used22:05
nick0R0jmadero: sudeo apt-get /etc/apt/sources.list - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418468/22:05
Juestojmadero: i went selecting packages trough synaptic22:05
jmaderowhat packages22:05
jmaderoyou literally need a single package (meta package)22:05
nick0R0jmadero: Google is giving me nothing. You're right this looks rather complicated22:06
jmaderonick0R0: you don't have root priv?22:06
Juestowell, yes i installed metapackage.22:06
Juestoim unable to properly explain this.22:06
jmaderoJuesto: if you did more than this http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-gnome-shell-desktop-in.html you did too much22:06
jmaderoJuesto: go into terminal and do what that says to do22:06
jmaderomaybe it'll fix itself22:06
JuestoNot sure, i also want xscreensaver instead of gnome-screensaver so that removes the metapackage22:07
nick0R0jmadero: Isn't it off by default?22:07
poseidonI'm using ubuntu 14.0422:07
poseidonHow do I install php-gd library?22:08
poseidonapt-get install php5-gd says it doesn't exist22:08
jmaderoposeidon: is this on a fresh install?22:09
jmaderonick0R0: yes it's off but you should have the priv.22:09
nick0R0jmadero: why am I not root?22:09
Juestoposeidon: you can try and search the packages with synaptic lol22:09
jmaderoposeidon: no don't do that22:09
jmaderosudo apt-get update, then try the php-gd again22:09
dw1yeah, php5-gd should work......22:10
Juestojmadero: Well, i dont want to have the default-settings packages, any tips?22:10
k1l!info php5-gd | poseidon22:10
tapouthow do I 'rerun' the nemo-share install?   I don't want to remove the package, i just want to rerun it's install so the required paths are there.  I installed samba4, and purged it.. thus screwing up my nemo-share22:10
jmaderoJuesto: no because I don't know what you broke, that is my best suggestion to try to fix it22:10
ubottuposeidon: php5-gd (source: php5): GD module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4 (trusty), package size 25 kB, installed size 142 kB22:10
nick0R0jmadero: Strange : \ Simple way to rectify?22:10
JuestoHow i find what is broken?22:10
k1lposeidon: please make a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" after that try to install it with "sudo apt-get install php5-gd"22:11
jmaderoJuesto: just follow that single command, seriously22:11
jmaderosomething is broken, diagnosing it is going to take forever22:11
Juestopackages aren't broken, when i go "default" session it somehow collides22:11
jmaderorun that and see if it fixes it22:11
jmaderoJuesto: not much we can do when all you tell us is that you went into synaptic and installed packages22:11
Juestojmadero: i ran it, i dont need any dep, its just that and ubuntu-gnome-default-settings22:11
jmaderoJuesto: and you installed whatever it said to install?22:12
Juestojmadero: i can paste dpkg history or apt or synaptic history if you need?22:12
JuestoBecause i dont want the *-default-settings and gnome-screensaver some gnome and ubuntu metapackages get removed automatically22:12
david1http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418448/22:13
jmaderoJuesto: sorry I won't be able to help more, I can't dig through whatever packages you installed, I installed through a simple 2 commands22:13
jmaderoand I know it works22:13
JuestoI can paste my history..... :/22:13
* Juesto pastebins the logs22:13
jmaderoJuesto: I won't know what caused the problem if I didn't do it the same way22:13
jmaderoand I'm not willing to test it that way....I like my system working ;)22:13
MoleanHow can I get into grub from boot?22:13
poseidonk1l: I tried that22:14
poseidonit didn't work22:14
RaBhl1984hello every body22:14
jmaderoposeidon: sudo apt-get update22:14
poseidonjmadero: yes, it is a fresh install22:14
jmaderothen try to install22:14
k1lposeidon: please put the whole output into a pastebin22:14
poseidonI did that22:14
k1l!paste | poseidon22:14
ubottuposeidon: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:14
jmaderoposeidon: might be the repository you're running from22:14
jmaderoposeidon: go into synaptic and select best repository22:14
JuestoMolean: if you installed the bootloader to a partition you have to mark the corresponding partition to active22:14
jmaderothen run sudo apt-get update again22:14
RaBhl1984i have a question22:14
daftykinsask it22:14
jmadero......GAH!22:14
poseidonand diwoops22:14
poseidonwoops22:14
Juesto!ask | RaBhl198422:15
ubottuRaBhl1984: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:15
poseidonI was doing php-gd after the update22:15
jmaderoI have a question22:15
poseidonI needed php5-gd22:15
jmadero;)22:15
k1lMolean: press left shift22:15
JonnyDamnnoxHÄÄ I don't understand this, now I installed a new ubuntu installation and wifi pops up automaticly22:15
Juesto!ask | jmadero22:15
ubottujmadero: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:15
JuestoXD22:15
jmaderolol funny22:15
nick0R0Haha22:15
Juesto:P22:15
jmaderowhat is the meaning of life?22:15
jmaderoanswer that ;)22:15
JuestoAnyway, im going to pastebin stuff.22:15
Juesto!google22:15
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.22:15
Juesto!mol22:16
ubottumol is MacOnLinux. For a complete howto, visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto - No longer available in 11.10 or higher, see http://bugs.debian.org/59203422:16
JuestoWTF22:16
Moleank1l Hold down or keep pressing, and when? I tried that anyway, it doesn't work. I've resorted to mashing a bunch of buttons over and over again after post where I MAY or may not get grub22:16
Moleank1l: Sometimes Ive resorted to turning off my PC during boot to get the grub menu up too, but I really shouldn't have to do that22:17
RaBhl1984when i command ./build-ca for generate ca.key for openvpn,  i have this message enerating a 1024 bit RSA private key22:17
RaBhl1984.................++++++22:17
RaBhl1984...............................++++++22:17
RaBhl1984unable to write 'random state'22:17
RaBhl1984writing new private key to 'ca.key'22:17
RaBhl1984ca.key: Permission denied22:17
unopasteRaBhl1984 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted22:17
JonnyDamnnoxok whatever it works :)22:17
jmaderoRaBhl1984: PASTEBIN22:17
jmaderosorry no caps22:17
JonnyDamnnoxOK THX YOU ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED ME :) BYEBYE HAVE A NICE DAY22:18
JonnyDamnnoxTHX=THANK22:18
jmaderonick0R0: I'm out of ideas :-/22:18
JuestoPackage history: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418537/22:18
LanDihey guys, I want to use pnmixer and mn-applet on my tint2... how can I get them ? what is the package name  ?22:19
Juestojmadero, k1l ^^22:19
Juestoapt terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/741854322:19
k1lMolean: hold left shift. that needs to be pressed right after  starting22:19
Moleank1l: You mean after post? I told you, it doesn't work22:19
daftykinssomeone the other day had a funky setup where it was right shift instead22:20
daftykinsMolean: or perhaps you have a USB keyboard and you've got some conflicting BIOS settings?22:21
k1lMolean: well, the pressing can be quite tricky, depending on how fast the booting is22:21
k1lMolean: for old grub it was esc iirc22:21
JuestoHelp?22:21
nick0R0jmadero: Appreciate your efforts. Thank you.22:22
jmaderonick0R0: sorry :-/22:22
JuestoAnyone?22:22
Juestouh22:22
MoleanWell moving on to my second issue, I had a video card die on me, I replaced it, but now I can't get to my desktop the normal way, I have to boot from USB flash drive or go through grub into graphics recovery mode22:22
jmaderonick0R0: keep asking around, someone else will be able to help I'm sure22:22
MoleanI've tried alot of things22:23
Juestoguys?22:23
jmaderoJuesto: likely to get booted if every 30 seconds you repeat yourself (no offense)22:23
jmaderoif someone knows the answer they'll try to answer it22:23
Juestoi've pasted history.22:24
jmaderoyes, and we all saw it, I still don't have an answer22:24
Juestouh22:24
jmaderoyou did things different from me, the way I did it, worked, and it's the way recommended on virtually every website22:24
MoleanThis may be related http://pastebin.com/xrHCpEtm22:25
JuestoWell, lol i think its because unity and gnome-shell are colliding, any ideas?22:25
KamarisDoes anyone use 14.04 on a headless system and connect using vnc? I'm looking for any guides/tricks to help turn down / minimize the unity special effects and animations between windows/desktops. I have already disabled what i feel comfortable with in compwiz and it's still a little sluggish.22:27
sport_billMolean, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg22:27
Moleansport_bill: Am I suppose to see anything happen after inputing that?22:28
jmaderocheers all, I have to run22:29
compdocKamaris, I do, but I cant do it with unity22:29
JuestoHow i configure the unity-greeter?22:29
Juestoi want to set it up in a way system accounts can log in22:30
JuestoAlso22:30
Juestoyep, i have a complex system22:30
Juestoi go against many linux philosophy, but its how i want it22:30
sport_billMolean, it will create a new xorg.conf file22:31
ernestbosomn22:31
Moleansport_bill:  replacing the old one? Should I see any terminal messages when inputing it?22:32
sport_billyes ti will be replaced22:32
sport_billthe command starts a wizard22:33
jared_hi22:34
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tapoutwith nemo-share, when I browse networks in windows.. I never see the shares.. but if I do;   \\192.168.1.123 .. they pop up.  Why is that?22:34
JuestoAlso, login is taking way too long for me22:35
JuestoAnd it seems that only login picker works fine22:35
JuestoAny attempt to start a session without lightdm or such fails22:36
JuestoGuys22:36
k1lJuesto: you say you changed a lot and know its wrong but you want it that way. on the other hand you say its not your fault. you got several confirms, that the standard way works.22:37
Moleansport_bill:  replacing the old one? Should I see any terminal messages when inputing it?22:37
Juestok1l: Well, everything works as expected ONLY with lightdm,22:37
JuestoSo22:37
Juestoim trying to use things in my own way22:37
Juestok1l: I want "flexible" sessions i can use22:38
Juesto...22:38
k1lJuesto: we cant fix things here that are not broken.22:39
Juestomy computer is not broken, its that im having issues using it as my way22:40
JuestoCan you help me understand stuff?22:40
Juestoi mean, why i cant use the system as such, why its not really flexible?22:40
k1lJuesto: no. we dont know what your way is. you keep repeating that you dont want it the way it works22:40
JuestoSo?22:40
k1lJuesto: be specific!22:40
JuestoI want to be able to properly start22:41
Juestothe session i want22:41
k1l"my car doesnt  work" "what exactly doesnt work" "my car" ....22:41
Juestofrom anywhere,22:41
k1luse a *dm. lightdm is the standard22:41
JuestoWhy?22:41
Juestoalso lightdm is kinda glitchy when launching it from console22:41
k1lthats what the ubuntu system is based on.22:42
Juestoit swaps back to the original tty22:42
Juestoand such22:42
JuestoAlso, how i configure the unity-greeter?22:42
k1lJuesto: i dont mind feng shui when starting the session. lightdm works22:42
Dvorovoihia all, what is samba used for?22:42
Juestoi have to use the gtk greeter because i need to type the user i want22:43
k1lgive explicit issues with error messages or logs. and no: i feel like it is glitchy,.....22:43
Juestok1l: Which logs you want me to put?22:43
Molean had a video card die on me, I replaced it, but now I can't get to my desktop the normal way, I have to boot from USB flash drive or go through grub into graphics recovery mode  This may be related http://pastebin.com/xrHCpEtm22:43
k1lDvorovoi: samba is the network share with windows systems.22:43
k1l!samba | Dvorovoi22:43
ubottuDvorovoi: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html22:43
JuestoWhy unity insists in using dmz-white?22:44
Dvorovoithanks22:44
Juestofor cursor theme22:44
k1lJuesto: choose one issue (like the lightdm issue) and then collect data like errormessages etc. then work on it.22:44
k1lJuesto: and not just rant about ubuntu not praising the Juesto way.22:45
JuestoHow? i have apport uninstalled because "System Program problem detected" was annoying. fyi22:45
sinmedhello22:45
k1lJuesto: ...22:45
Juestok1l: what if there's no errors?22:46
JuestoHow i see lightdm log?22:47
ghostcowHey guys is anyone alive?22:47
Molean had a video card die on me, I replaced it, but now I can't get to my desktop the normal way, I have to boot from USB flash drive or go through grub into graphics recovery mode  This may be related http://pastebin.com/xrHCpEtm Also I have no sound like this22:47
pdo_fn14!ask22:49
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:49
k1lJuesto: .xsession-errors in /home or sylog22:49
JuestoWhere is the system tray for gnome-shell?22:49
pdo_fn14!patience22:50
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/22:50
whoeverwho has .xsession issue22:51
Juestolol22:51
whoeverwho has ~/.xsession issue22:52
k1lwhoever: what is your issue?22:52
whoeverk1l: i don't have one just caught a post something about a ~/.xsession issue, and I was asking who had tha issue22:53
whoeveri think its an easy fix22:53
Juestok1l: syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/741863822:54
k1lwhoever: Juesto got a lot of self caused issues22:54
Juestowhoever: I have stuff not really working as expected & the way i want to22:54
Juesto...22:55
lewhi. i'm having some issues running ubuntu 14.04, after a few hours my cpu usage goes to 100%. when i check the processes it appears that nautalis is using it22:55
lewcan someone help me to solve this22:55
whoeverJuesto: rm ~/.xsession, ~/.xauth* , /.ICEautority and restart22:55
miaqinashi everyone22:56
Juestowhoever: Why? my issue is about having "bad" default session, unity and gnome-shell seem to "collide" and im left without a desktop when i start via starx22:56
Juestostartx*22:56
k1lJuesto: dont use startx22:57
JuestoAlso, only startxfce4 is working as it should22:57
k1lJuesto: as told before: start the *dm and choose the session there22:57
JuestoOnly lightdm session selection works as it should22:57
Juestowdm doesnt work properly either22:57
Juestognome-session effect is the same as startx one :(22:57
k1lJuesto: dont change everything that works and complain its not working.22:57
whoeverJStoker: ah, I only caught part of it and assumed you got error server failed to start22:58
JuestoWell, everyone haves its own way to do things, right?22:58
k1lJuesto: no22:58
Juestowhoever: the x server does not fail to start.22:58
Juestothe problem is "inside" X. :P22:58
k1lJuesto: ubuntu is build to be started with *dm.22:58
whoeverJuesto: well as above and k1l you should select your session from dm22:59
k1lJuesto: you are wanting to break things and then complain that its broken. ....22:59
JuestoWhat can i do? ubuntu philosphy doesnt fit with me22:59
k1l*sigh*22:59
whoeverJuesto: what os(s) do/are you comm(ing) from23:00
JuestoI dont want to break things, i want them to work as expected and with flexibility23:00
torisojuesto, this is a ubuntu channel lol23:00
willwhJuesto: #debian23:00
willwh:P23:00
sport_billMolean, what brand is the new card? (nvidia/amd)23:00
Juestoim debian user, and ubuntu user, my first distro is mandrake 9.04 (i know its dead :P), and im a windows user.23:00
k1lJuesto: they work as expected23:01
Juestoand a geeky user as you seen.23:01
whoeverk1l: well i just asked what os or oses he is comming from , we'll see what he says23:01
Juestok1l: What you mean? it shouldn't fail in random conditions basically23:01
Juestowhoever: ^ i have answered already23:02
k1lJuesto: dont use startx. use the *dm.23:02
Moleansport_bill: ATI23:02
whoeverJuesto: ah, so they already work as expected, now if you said gentoo or arch , them I might believe you that it doesn't work as expected23:02
k1lJuesto: i am tired of saying that to you23:02
sport_billMolean, have you installed catalyst?23:02
JuestoWell, arch sucks for me because of installer engine removal.23:02
k1lJuesto: if you want to do all things not the ubuntu way, ubuntu is not the right place?23:03
whoeverk1l: i think he is use to <11.0423:03
Moleansport_bill:  I had catalyst before, but I cleaned it out, I think it was too advanced for the card I switched to (its a very old radeon, 7700)23:03
Juestowhoever: Nope, well i used 11.04 at first, but im on 14.04 XD23:03
Juestoi also used squeeze/wheezy23:04
whoeverJuesto: startx has been replaced by dm years ago , and you just have to learn to accept it or break it and make it work Like years ago23:04
grygHello, is there any way to check which southbridge I have on motherboard?23:04
willwh^23:04
whoeverok Juesto so startx does not exist on ubuntu23:05
sport_billMolean, /etc/X11/xorg.conf file shouldn't be needed at all23:05
JuestoOh, i have gnome3 ppa and gnome-shell height is unfitting. i have a 1366x768 screen and the UI seems accomodated for 1366x1024?23:05
Juestowhoever: IT DOES.23:05
JuestoAll X tools still exists in the repos -.-23:05
sport_billMolean, you can try to rename it to xorg.conf.backup for example and see if it works23:05
k1lJuesto: you are free to read into docs how to use the desktop sessions in a not supposed to be used way on ubuntu. but dont tell its broken or not working as expected23:05
Juestolink me, because i just cant understand this.23:06
torisowhy using ubuntu if you want a minimalist distro23:06
whoeverk1l:  I see what you mean , may i join you at the therapist ? :-)23:06
Juestotoriso: i use ubuntu because recommendation.23:06
torisoits not like like a newbee23:06
k1lwhoever: startx is still included but ubuntu is based to start the desktops from the dm23:06
torisoyou*23:06
k1lJuesto: go and figure!23:06
Juesto... how lol23:06
Moleansport_bill: Well each time I try something, I have to deal with the extreme difficulty of getting into grub when I fail. Got any suggestions? Also got another suggestion then just renaming xorg so its not used?23:06
Juestotoriso: hmm, what?23:06
whoeverk1l: yes , I was just tring to get him to stop tring to use what he shouldn't use23:06
k1lJuesto: you pretend you know what is best, so you should know about docs.23:06
sport_billMolean, what has grub to do with X not starting?23:07
torisoJuesto: just never turn it off, you wont use startx....lol23:07
Juestotoriso: wtf u talking about...? :|23:08
Moleansport_bill: As I said before, I got to go through grub and graphic recovery mode to load my ubuntu23:08
soundjackhi everyone, I'm having problems installing ubuntu on a new machine (AMD A10 7700k + motherboard Asrock FM288X ITX+)… I boot with a live USB into "try mode" and then install from there, although I have to add "nomodeset" when booting from the USB otherwise it just hangs. After installing Ubuntu doesn't boot and gives me a purple screen followed by a black one… I suspect it's the graphics drivers but how can I add "nomodeset" to the installed Ubuntu?23:08
RippSteakfacehm that's weird23:09
sport_billMolean, so you use your arrow keys to select recovery mode?23:09
k1l!nomodeset | soundjack23:09
Juestosoundjack: chroot to the ubuntu install then edit /etc/defaults/grub to include nomodeset and set grub to use a specific GFX23:09
ubottusoundjack: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:09
k1lsoundjack: it works the same way as on live system. its just the grub where you need to add nomodeset23:10
Juestosoundjack: Oh, and bind /dev and /proc to update the grub with the new settings23:10
red45923soundjack, not an answer but whenever i get a problem with one live cd install on a machine i try a different live cd for a different distro, sometimes one works where another doesnt23:10
k1lJuesto: stop!23:10
Moleansport_bill I mash various keys after post over and over again, alt, ctrl, shift, esc, f1-f4. And if that doesn't work, I hit the power switch on the back of my PC while its loading23:10
JuestoHow i remove the graphical "hacks" that grub comes with?23:10
willwhcan someone just kick him? :)23:11
willwhterrible troll23:11
Juestowithout having to edit the boot options manually23:11
JuestoWTF23:11
JuestoWhat i can do?23:11
k1lsoundjack: no need to boot a live system and chroot. you can edit the grub kernel parameter just on boot. see the explanation23:11
sport_billMolean, it says Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf in your log file23:11
JuestoHelp me :(23:11
k1lJuesto: please stop your "advanced" knowledge in here23:11
Moleansport_bill: And?23:11
whoeverk1l: now I am confused what Juesto is trying to do23:11
Juestoits annoying to edit grub options each time you boot, because you forget and end up in the problem...23:12
Juestoi only need help, period23:12
soundjackk1l: I'm not getting the grub menu even when holding shift during boot… I'm gonna try and edit the grub file using the live cd, I tried already but I think I added it to the wrong line23:12
k1lJuesto: he only needs to change it one time. then he can install the driver.23:12
sport_billMolean, I suggested to rename that file as it's not needed, xserver will find the correct configuration automatically23:12
Juestolol23:12
whoeverJuesto: thats right ... and none of us are shrinks :-)23:13
Juestoi need someone to help me*23:13
sport_billMolean, I also suggested to regenerate that file using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg23:13
Moleansport_bill: And if it fails like all the other things Ive been suggested to try, how do you recommend I get grub back up?23:13
k1lsoundjack: hold left shift while booting23:13
Moleansport_bill: I tried that, it didnt do squat23:13
Juestok1l: you missed that he is not able to get the grub via shift23:14
sport_billMolean, grub is irrelevant23:14
whoeverJuesto: i called dr. phill on your behalf .. he said he has an opening next week23:14
Juestowhoever: stfu you troller23:14
Moleansport_bill: I already told you its not23:14
soundjackok added nomoedeset from the live cd, gonna restart and try23:14
andreas_secondaroh god, what am i doing here?  I am not good with computer23:14
Juestoandreas_secondar: Why are you even here? lmao23:15
whoeverJuesto: dude you are the f'n troll here23:15
andreas_secondari accidentally ubuntu.23:15
Moleanandreas_secondar: If you wish to ask god something, might I recommend prayer, rather then IRC?23:15
HoloIRCUser...23:15
sport_billMolean, sorry then, someone else might be able to help you23:15
JuestoFucking bullshit, this channel is for idiots23:15
* willwh sighs23:15
willwhthank you23:15
andreas_secondarActually, I'm just testing out a second xsession on my box to test out cinnamon23:16
andreas_secondarAnyone here use cinnamon on ubuntu ?23:16
UbuntuBoyhello all23:16
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Ubun7uDud3Hello23:17
k1landreas_secondar: cinnamon got removed from debian and ubuntu recently.23:17
whoeverwow he was upset beacuse we wouldn't help him brake ubuntu to fix it for his amusment23:17
soundjackk1l: ok I added it now I get a login prompt (terminal) but it seems it's crashed, can't type anything23:17
Moleanhad a video card die on me, I replaced it, but now I can't get to my desktop the normal way, I have to boot from USB flash drive or go through grub into graphics recovery mode This may be related http://pastebin.com/xrHCpEtm23:17
andreas_secondarThats not my point, there is a PPA and it works fine on ubuntu23:17
andreas_secondarMy question is because window compositsitioning on the desktop (cinnamon) appears to be waaaaay more smooth than unity23:17
andreas_secondarwhich is my primary desktop23:17
UbuntuBoynew to the world of linux, just looking to meet others. i just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and love it.. just new too it all.23:18
andreas_secondarSeriously, feels like going from 30 fps to 60 fps23:18
UbuntuBoydoes anyone have any good tricks or tweaks for a novice?23:18
whoeverMolean: have you tried tty login, reconig xorg then rebooting23:18
Moleanwhoever: What is tty login?23:19
robjlorangerUbuntuBoy: learn the to use the command line23:19
whoeverUbuntuBoy: well how new are you and what  kinds of tricks are you looking for23:19
andreas_secondarUbuntuBoy, novice what? To linux? To pcs in general?23:19
whoeverMolean: teminal no gui23:19
John_RipperI need advice for partitioning software. I have an external HD with 2 partitions. the 1st partition has cruddy intrusive encryption software that installs itself on machines like a virus. I wanna get rid of it. I wouldnt dare plug it into windows23:20
Moleanwhoever: Try what with it? I've done things in that mode23:20
UbuntuBoyim new to liinux world. not computers. i just installed ubuntu 14.04 as a dual boot with my windows 8.123:20
whoeverMolean: reconfigur xorg ie X-Configure23:20
sport_billJohn_Ripper, gparted23:20
UbuntuBoyive been playing around with the different tweaks all week.. with the help of you tube lol23:20
John_RipperThanks sport_bill23:21
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Moleanwhoever: To clarify what I already said, I am currently logged in now, through graphics recovery mode via grub. I also need help getting grub up, what buttons to press when. Shift doesn't seem to work23:21
Moleanwhoever: I've tried a few different things involving changing xorg23:22
andreas_secondarUbuntuBoy, If you are using Windows 8.... you don't know squat about pcs. Not hating on you, I think Microsoft had most of their shit together up until Windows 7.23:22
xangua!language | andreas_secondar23:22
ubottuandreas_secondar: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList23:22
andreas_secondarsry.23:22
IdleOneandreas_secondar: Keep the language clean please and stay on topic.23:22
whoevermeitnerium: is it the open or closd source driver that your using23:23
UbuntuBoy<andreas_sencondar> like i said im just starting out.. i dont know too much but i learn very quick.. and starting to like linux every day i use it..23:23
andreas_secondarSo does anyone happen to know why Cinnamons windows compositing  seems soo much smoother than Unitys? I just on a whim installed Cinnamon today for fun on my 13.10.. the desktop has way more "fps"23:24
soundjackneed some more help with the nomodeset option… I can't get into the grub menu by holding shift for some reason, after adding nomodeset I got a login prompt (non-graphical), after rebooting I now get the black screen again, any ideas?23:24
sport_billMolean, you can configure grub not to hide the boot menu23:24
whoeverMolean: hit f8 will booting to get the ubunu recovery menu , then recover, and does that fix it23:25
sport_billMolean, more info here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring_GRUB_223:25
Moleanwhoever: f8 is used by my motherboard for a drive boot selection menu23:25
Moleanand no grub comes up when I use it23:26
whoeverUbuntuBoy: there arn't any realy tweaks just user preference that you will get over time23:26
Moleanwhoever:  What do you mean "then recover"?23:26
moppsandreas_secondar, Ubuntu unity requires 3d acceleration.23:26
whoeverMolean: yes but ones you get past the bios splash screen you can use f8 to get into the ubuntu recovery mode23:27
andreas_secondarUbuntuBoy, an operating system is only the ground beneath your feet of what you want to do. A good OS assists and doesn't impede your goals. A bad one slows you down. Just think of something you want to do.. and see if you can.  Suggestions, learn about and use ZFS. It is the filesystem of the future, and it runs well and stable on Ubuntu. Backup your data if you value your time.23:27
UbuntuBoy<whoever> yes im realizing that. with the help of you tube sad to say, ive been able to get my desktop the way i like23:27
whoeverMolean: there is a menu asking what kernnal to recover , I select generic23:27
andreas_secondarmopps, running a Nvidia GTX 78023:27
willwhI'm sure someone at nvidia is crying :)23:28
willwha 780 in a linux box23:28
willwhnot that is a bad thing, I have a 760 gt here :P23:28
moppsandreas_secondar, Do they work with linux?23:28
willwhbut you know, directX and all that ;)23:28
andreas_secondarmopps, sure great..23:28
willwhmopps: there are native nvidia drivers yeah23:28
willwhwork very well23:28
whoeverUbuntuBoy: and once you get things the way you like it, then look at clonezilla se to make an image of it23:28
andreas_secondarmopps,  but to be completely honest23:28
willwhmy 760 works real nice23:28
Moleanwhoever: Not sure what you're talking about with the kernal and generic. Should I hold f8 down or keep pressing it over and over?23:28
mopps760 isnt a 78023:28
andreas_secondari went from a 560 to a 78023:28
soundjacknow i get "usb 4-5: string descriptor 0 reado error: -22" …. anyone knows what this is?23:29
UbuntuBoy<whoever> thanks for the tips23:29
andreas_secondarand unity didn't improve by much23:29
andreas_secondargames and whatnot of course.23:29
moppswhy do you think you would notice an improvement in the desktop? a 560 is way overpowered for it23:29
UbuntuBoyand you do <andreas_secondar>23:29
djangohow does skyrim run on ubuntu 12.0423:29
UbuntuBoyto*23:29
whoeverMolean: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150367/how-do-i-boot-into-recovery-mode23:29
andreas_secondardjango, haven't tried it yet.. :D23:29
andreas_secondarmopps, well I tend to have abotu 10 desktops with a couple hundred chrome tabs + 5- 30 programs running23:30
casshernhi23:30
andreas_secondarwhen i want to use some of the things like  show all windows and stuff, compiz stil chokes hard23:30
moppsandreas_secondar, is this an exaggeration?23:31
Moleanwhoever: I told you, shift doesn't work, and the rest I already knew and doesn't tell me much, definitely doesn't tell me what you were talking about23:31
casshernany one who has installed grub-customizer on xubuntu 14.0423:31
andreas_secondarmopps, no.23:31
moppsSo what do you have in your 200 chrome tabs?23:31
whoeverMolean: try this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/172319/how-can-i-start-in-safe-mode23:31
andreas_secondarmopps, i specifically switched from windows to linux because it can't handle my amount of workload23:31
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neil__andreas_secondar,  sudo schedtool -R -p 1 `pgrep compiz` <-- try that23:32
John_RipperI need advice on some problems I have had with ubuntu. I want to use it more often but it overheats when I am programming and just shuts off on me. This never happens with windows. Is the os just not using the fan properly?23:32
andreas_secondarmopps, well, could be anything from managing my servers to a shit ton of reddit tabs23:32
neil__after installing scedtool23:32
neil__schedtool*23:32
moppsMay I ask why you don't have multi monitor?23:32
IdleOneandreas_secondar: keep the language clean23:32
mopps(apart from the fact that it doesn't work properly in gnome, of course :-)23:32
andreas_secondarmopps, I do sir, I have 2, wish i had 3.. works fine for me in gnome3 and unity so far23:33
andreas_secondaroh and a big one is when I'm web developing23:33
andreas_secondartons of pages open23:33
moppsDoesn't work for me since Trusty, font rendering is broken on the non-primary display23:33
andreas_secondarneil__,  give me a second and I'll see if it seems to make a difference.. gotta switch to my unity session though23:33
whoeverMolean: for as much time as you have spent tring to fix it may be just as quick to reinstall23:34
Moleanwhoever:  Only one kernel type to choose from, if I understand what you are talking about correctly23:34
poseidonAnyone here use varnish?23:35
poseidonwhen I go to wp-admin it redirects me to :8080/wp-admin23:35
poseidonwith wordpress23:35
red45923John_Ripper, I would google your machine + fan + ubuntu - maybe there is a driver for the fan that is not installed by default or a setting for the fan something like that - but usually others have had the same problem and google finds it23:35
UbuntuBoy_hey all23:36
Moleanwhoever: So any suggestions other then renaming xorg?23:37
Chaos_Zerohey some23:37
UbuntuBoy_what time is it there?23:38
navyquerieshi all23:39
navyqueriesis there a #cryptography or equivalent irc i can join for a question about public key cryptography23:39
andreas_secondarneil__, no, didnt make a differenct23:39
andreas_secondarneil__, no, didnt make a difference23:39
neil__mm k23:39
k1l!alis | navyqueries23:39
ubottunavyqueries: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*23:39
andreas_secondarneil__,  the thing is, its not "bad"23:39
andreas_secondarneil__,  its just not great.. you know like when a program is written in java instead of optimized c23:40
neil__yep23:40
andreas_secondari primary use unity so far.. just trying out cinnamon and was taken by surprise that the desktop rendering was more smooth. !!23:40
neil__hmmm23:41
archimedes_Wifi connection keeps cutting out, also removing my wifi network from network manager. Only restart brings it back, anyone else having this issue?23:42
Moleanwhoever: How can I rename xorg?23:44
akaWolfhello, guys! when I try to open application under root, I've got an error: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :023:45
sport_billMolean, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup23:45
moppsakaWolf, You're not supposed to do that23:45
akaWolfmopps: ?23:45
moppsakaWolf, use gksudo23:45
akaWolfmopps: I try. and got exactly the same23:46
UbuntuBoy_where can i go in ubuntu 14.04 to make my windows transparent ?23:46
daninozhey guys23:46
moppsakaWolf, Did you login to the GUI as root23:47
neil__UbuntuBoy_, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager if u havent already23:47
UbuntuBoy_i have installed compizfig already23:48
akaWolfmopps: no. I try "$ gksudo putty"23:48
k1lakaWolf: what? why as root, and why putty?23:48
moppsakaWolf, Do you're logged in via an xterm only? That would make sense, you're trying to open a graphical app and the terminal cant do that23:48
moppsakaWolf, wait what?23:49
akaWolfk1l: I need to connect to Serial Connection (ttyS0)23:49
k1lakaWolf: what do you want to do anyway?23:49
moppsakaWolf, sorry i misread the completey. you'r in a gui, and want to run putty with root?23:49
akaWolfmopps: yep23:49
k1lakaWolf: and why putty?23:49
moppsisnt putty windows only?23:50
akaWolfk1l: I used that program before. I know, how to use that.23:50
akaWolfmopps: nope23:50
k1lakaWolf: which protocol do you need?23:50
akaWolfk1l: Serial23:50
k1lakaWolf: putty is for windows. ubuntu got a lot of build in programs for ssh etc23:50
k1lakaWolf: what about the terminal?23:51
akaWolfk1l: not only for windows23:51
k1lakaWolf: its a bad windows habbit to use putty on linux23:51
andreas_secondarakaWolf, you are right, there is putty for linux23:51
andreas_secondarakaWolf, but as a long time putty user can i suggest PACSManager23:52
akaWolfk1l: ok. when I try to open gedit as sudo, I've got the same error23:52
k1lyes, there is one putty for linux. but that doesnt mean you have to use it :/23:52
akaWolfk1l: and forgot for putty23:52
k1lakaWolf: dont use sudo and GUI23:52
MoleanHow do I change the volume of the login sound?23:52
akaWolfk1l: gksudo didn't work23:52
akaWolfalso23:53
akaWolfandreas_secondar: ok, thanks, I try23:53
k1lgksu gedit23:53
andreas_secondarakaWolf, that display error usually occurs because you are trying to run an X application in a terminal window that isn't an X Terminal window23:53
akaWolfandreas_secondar: and?...23:53
sport_billakaWolf, what is the output of echo $DISPLAY23:53
andreas_secondarakaWolf, are you running from within X or from a console?23:53
moppsthis is actually surreal23:53
akaWolfhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7418816/23:54
andreas_secondarakaWolf, are you in Xwindows?23:54
akaWolfhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7418819/23:54
AceDiggittyhello23:54
akaWolfandreas_secondar: I'm in KDE and use a Konsole as terminal23:54
John_Ripperred45926 I need to open up my laptop to figure out what fan it uses. Its not the same fan that came with the laptop. I had to replace it last year. but I will try looking for  a driver on google23:55
GlycanIs there a way to close an arbitrary window?23:55
AceDiggittyis there any way to force the ubuntu intaller to use MBR instead of GPT?23:55
GlycanI'm messing around with Pygame and forget to close my windows properly23:55
akaWolfsport_bill: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418819/23:56
akaWolfandreas_secondar: KDE use a X Server23:56
andreas_secondarJohn_Ripper, you aren't looking for a driver for the fan, you are looking for the ability to read and control your sensors which control the fan23:56
MoleanHow do I change the volume of the login sound?23:57
andreas_secondarJohn_Ripper, start here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed23:57
sport_billakaWolf, hmmm23:57
andreas_secondarJohn_Ripper, and here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/fancontrol.8.html23:57
andreas_secondarakaWolf, I'm still thinking about that.23:57
akaWolfandreas_secondar: what is PACSManager?23:57
andreas_secondarakaWolf,  its a program like putty but more powerful23:58
sport_billakaWolf, you can use alt-f2 and the command23:58
andreas_secondarakaWolf, give me a second23:58
akaWolfok23:58
GlycanCan someone answer my question, please?23:58
akaWolfsport_bill: I know, but this is not that case23:58
andreas_secondarakaWolf, my bad its pacmanager23:59
andreas_secondarhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/pacmanager/23:59
akaWolfandreas_secondar: yeah, thanks23:59
andreas_secondarsorry doot23:59
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