[00:34] <delt> 19:01 < OvenWerk1> delt: under media playback there is a "HDAJackretask" that may (or not) help
[00:35] <delt> were you talking about the mixer app?
[00:35] <delt> ah i see, alsa-tools-gui - GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware
[00:36] <delt> hmm, i don't see the menu entry under "media playback", but: alsa-tools-gui is already the newest version.
[00:37] <delt> though i do have the "hdajackretask" binary installed
[00:38] <OvenWerk1> I don't know why it wouldn't be there. I don't think I installed it, so it was on the ISO.
[00:38] <OvenWerk1> (14.04)
[00:38] <OvenWerk1> Mine won't run as the internal sound is turned off in bios... Cause I have such a high opinion of it :)
[00:39] <delt> hehe -) what sound card are you using?
[00:39] <OvenWerk1> I have a delta66 for audio and an old ensoniq audiopci for midi.
[00:40] <OvenWerk1> They are not the best, but better than the internal. I can get much lower latency too.
[00:41] <delt> I'm using the internal hda of my mobo, which i find actually quite decent, and a good old SB live for midi input (db15 connector) / spare audio stuff.
[00:42] <OvenWerk1> The output from the internals is generally very good. I have had too much problem with the inputs to use them. Often one or other channel will be noisy for no reason.
[00:43] <OvenWerk1> Also, the delta has standard level inputs and outputs that work with the mic preamps and mixer.
[00:43] <delt> nice.
[00:48] <delt> reading the documentation of hda-jack-retask
[00:48] <delt> also nice. =)
[00:54] <delt> just wondering why do most onboard sound cards only have one line-out jack (stereo) if they support, say, up to 7.1 surround?
[00:55] <OvenWerk1> Most newer ones also have more on headers on the MB.
[00:55] <OvenWerk1> But a lot expect you to use the digital video out that some of them have
[00:56] <OvenWerk1> HDV or whatever connector
[00:56] <delt> ah, so in most "analog" cases, you need to buy/make a module that has "jumper" type connectors on one side and audio jacks on the other...?
[00:57] <OvenWerk1> Something like that. I think you can get ready made ones too.
[00:57] <delt> *fishes out motherboard manual*
[00:58] <OvenWerk1> Often you can use the line in as an output and the front line out as another
[00:59] <OvenWerk1> Thats 6, not sure where the other two are :)
[01:00] <delt> ah, i see my motherboard has a 10-pin connector (5x2 pins, one absent and one NC) for HDA and a similar one for AC97
[01:03] <delt> though hdajackretask shows pin ID's up to 0x1F, which is higher than 10
[01:03] <OvenWerk1> Some of those may belong to the rear panel
[01:03] <delt> oh duh, that counts the connectors on the rear panel
[01:07] <delt> ebay:  0 results found for hda front panel
[01:08] <OvenWerk1> The nice thing about the header is that you can build a panel/BOB with real connecters on it instead of tiny little jacks.
[01:08] <OvenWerk1> Most of those come with the case.
[01:10] <OvenWerk1> http://www.ebay.com/bhp/front-panel-audio-cable
[01:10] <OvenWerk1> Ya, I know missing lots :)
[01:12] <delt> if i can find one with 4 USB ports as well, for a reasonable price i'd probably buy it.
[01:16] <delt> normally those red 1/4" (mic) are physically stereo jacks, right?
[01:19] <OvenWerk1> On HDA they are and detect a stereo plug plugged in if set right
[01:20] <delt> that's part of the official specs?
[01:20] <delt> hello cfhowlett
[01:21] <OvenWerk1> I think so. It is kind of a long document... I have looked through, but read it all. :)
[01:21] <OvenWerk1> that shold be not...
[01:22] <OvenWerk1> But plug detect is one of the HDA features that has to be turned off if you plug AC97 plugs into the MB
[01:22] <cfhowlett> delt greetings
[01:24] <OvenWerk1> The idea is to be able to have more than one use for all audio jacks.
[01:28] <OvenWerk1> In theory you need 4 jacks for 7.1 sound. So three on the back and two on the front leaves one left over for a mic.
[01:29] <delt> ah i see.
[01:29] <delt> who needs 7.1 anyway :D
[01:30] <OvenWerk1> If I can mix good stereo I will be happy
[01:30] <delt> for me even 5.1 is kind of overkill. + i mostly use headphones which are 2.0 anyway.
[01:30] <delt> CD's are stereo. afaik there's no way to store surround sound on a standard audio cd
[01:31] <OvenWerk1> There are ... or were 4 chanel headphones at one time.
[01:31] <delt> yeah, sony designed that weird kind of connector
[01:31] <delt> like, 10 years ago
[01:32] <OvenWerk1> Anyway, I should go eat.
[01:33] <OvenWerk1> (supper here)
[01:33] <delt> bon app/tit
[01:33] <delt> uh... appétit
[02:08] <delt> damn...why do all front panels on ebay only have 2 audio jacks :( ??
[03:33] <holstein> delt: stereo.. its what most need
[03:33] <holstein> delt: you'll need to search the "pro audio" section for things with more inputs
[03:41] <letstrythis> so what happend to cpushare" and can i still use it to do what it was meant to be used for?
[03:41] <letstrythis> cpushare.com doesn't load
[03:44] <cfhowlett> letstrythis http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/cpushare.com.html
[04:35] <letstrythis> lol ty
[05:55] <delt> holstein: yeah, us musicians are happy with stereo... but i thought masses of consumers were into 5.1 surround if not 7.1 these days....?
[12:25] <rhizo> Hi folks
[22:47] <delt> hello
[22:47] <delt> i just installed 14.04 on my laptop, now i'm getting the "screen goes black" bug when i close the lid.
[22:48] <delt> fortunately i mapped a key to "xrandr --auto" but how do i fix this?
[23:12] <delt> i created a /etc/acpi/lid.sh but it doesn't get executed on lid open/close :/
[23:20] <delt> and even if it did, it can't open the :0 display