[01:02] Good Night [01:02] hi [01:03] i need help [02:18] wonders what is xfce equiv of xset m for mouse speed [02:20] or rather xfwm [02:26] hmm I guess it is xset [03:45] greetings [03:57] Hello. I have trouble with FireFox after update to 29. http://itmages.ru/image/view/1654825/1719811e [03:57] Address barr is shown incorrectly [03:57] bar* [03:57] is there a good way to graphically display CPU temp info in xubuntu? [03:58] !sensors [03:58] To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions. [03:59] I'll take a look. I did a search and found xfce4-xfapplet-plugin but it doesn't exist [04:01] thanks folks I'm looking into it now [04:11] It's me again, sorry. After update FireFox to 29 I have a trouble with showing Address bar. It's shown incorrectly. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4650425/Screenshot%20-%2007.05.2014%20-%20143225.png [04:11] ubottu, you still around? [04:11] How can I fix it? [04:57] anyone on? [05:17] yes :) [07:57] just upgraded to trusty, and for some reason now the key combination Ctrl+Space is being ignored. i'm not even sure where to start to figure out why this is. any ideas? [07:59] nvm. just found that it's now defined as my next input method for ibus preference. [08:02] :) [08:07] Suddenly, a keyboard appeared on my screen when I booted [08:08] It's probably a Gnome application that is loaded by default and appears because I told XFCE to load Gnome services at startup... now how do I disable it? [08:10] hi people! [08:14] lots of lurkers :) [08:14] I have a question regarding upgrading from xubuntu 12.04 LTS [08:17] 14.04 as a general rule will become available to 12.04 users when 14.04.1 is released. [08:18] ahh right [08:18] this probably explains why I can only see 12.10 :D [08:21] Make sure to enable LTS upgrades [08:21] so is it like 14.04 were not LTS but 14.04.1 were? [08:22] hmm I think I have... set it to notify me of LTS upgrades in the update manager [08:24] hi all, congratz to the dev team, amazing release guys [08:27] ProximateTen: Yeah, it'll offer in August, IIRC. [08:29] sweet... what about going to 14.04 early? Can I upgrade from the iso image via USB? [08:30] Yes [08:50] awesome thanks! === msx is now known as msx[AWAY] [09:09] Hello [09:09] Can somebody help me out on Update of XUBUNTU ? [09:10] I have upgraded my UBUNTU to 14.4 and now wanted to upgrade my XUBUNTU to the latest one.. [09:11] Then do the exact thing you did with that Ubuntu install? [09:13] ? Easy one I hope is there a place in settings manager or ? that you can change your mouse clicks from 2 to 1 click to open up a program? === msx[AWAY] is now known as msx [09:16] To open files with one clic? maybe in thunar preferences [09:26] not in thunar [09:32] hello all. I have a question about upgrading to 14.04. anyone around to help? [09:32] !ask | RobMagus [09:32] RobMagus: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [09:37] I am attempting to upgrade to xubuntu 14.04 via the terminal command do-release-upgrade. I am currently running a sort-of half version of xubuntu, where I uninstalled unity and other ubuntu packages from ubuntu 13.04, and installed xfce-desktop. when I run do-release-upgrade I receive the message 'No new release found'. When I run lsb_release -a is shows I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 raring. How do I succesfully and properly upgrade to [09:40] RobMagus: you upgrade to 13.10 first [09:40] !eol [09:40] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [09:40] RobMagus, xangua is right [09:41] do you mean upgrade to ubuntu 13.10, or to xubuntu 13.10? [09:41] if you're on 13.04, you first have to upgrade to 13.10 and only after that you'll be able to upgrade to 14.04 [09:41] No I am at 13.10 [09:41] How to get updgarded at 14.4 XUBUNTU [09:41] ? [09:42] xubuntu035, first run -> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [09:43] xubuntu sudo do-release-upgrade OR torrent the 14.04 ISO, make a boot USB and install [09:43] xubuntu035: afterwards run -> sudo do-release-upgrade [09:43] xubuntu035: The do-release-upgrade will launch the upgrade tool. You need to follow the on-screen instructions. [09:50] Can somebody please repeate what you said on XUBUNTU Upgrade process from 13.10 to 14.4 ??? [09:50] Unfortunately the window got closed and I could able to read only HALF the message !! [09:50] xubuntu158 read. READ the above [09:50] xubuntu158, the upgrade process is exactly the same as for ubuntu. [09:52] can you please paste the "above" again in this winodw ? [09:52] xubuntu158 sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade [09:53] sudo do-release-upgrade [09:53] is that enough ? [09:56] no, you also need to stand on your head and hum the national anthem while you upgrade [09:58] lol knome [10:00] I think it's easier to burn the image of 14.04 and install it than do the terminal way. === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [10:15] didn't say it earlier to all of you but Good Morning to everyone! [10:33] hello, I have issue that sometimes the keyboard input doesn't work on my laptop [10:34] so, only restart helps to solve it === cousteau is now known as Guest34981 === Guest34981 is now known as cousteau [12:39] just commented in launchpad bug 932177; let's see if someone decides to fix it [12:39] Launchpad bug 932177 in Xubuntu "XFCE (and other non-GNOME) desktops do not initialise gnome-keyring correctly / WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to PKCS11" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932177 [12:53] cousteau: which applications display the warning message? [12:54] msmtp, for example [12:54] does not look like a default xubuntu app [12:54] seems to be fixed at least in Trusty, according to the changelog for gnome-keyring: 2012-08-17 This is to handle the case of running gnome-keyring in environments not matching GNOME;Unity and avoid needless WARNING: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-SqfLpI/pkcs11 type errors [12:55] I just somehow doubt that it will be fixed for 12.04 at all [12:55] well, it is [12:55] why? isn't 12.04 supported? [12:56] it is, but "someone" would need to fix it, test it, write a SRU report and get it uploaded [12:56] gnome-keyring is installed by default because some programs, such as the software center, need it [12:56] yes, that's right [12:58] fixing it is trivial following solution 2.1.2 (or 2.1.1). In Trusty or maybe earlier it has been officially fixed following 3.1 according to the gnome-keyring changelog [12:58] (and when I say "trivial" I mean that I could do it if I knew how) [12:59] I suggest that you ask in #ubuntu-desktop [13:00] to get some attention from a developer [13:00] #ubuntu-devel ? [13:00] or -devel [13:00] I'd choose solution 2.1.2 as a workaround, but since I don't know if other DEs would be affected, maybe 2.1.1 is a safer option [13:01] would that also enable the autostart launcher? [13:02] maybe [13:02] s/maybe/let me check/ [13:02] and you are right, a possible fix should not cause any negative side effects [13:02] otherwise it won't be affected [13:02] I have no idea what possible side effects would there be [13:03] that's one of the reasons why it's not very likely that a fix will land in 12.04 at all [13:04] 14.04 is already out since few weeks, so 12.04 will get even less attention from now on [13:04] yeah, commenting that line shows the thing in Session and Startup [13:05] and it's also ticked? [13:05] I think it was [13:06] yes it is (although maybe because I ticked "Include Gnome applications") [13:06] "Start Gnome services at startup" [13:07] nah, also appears ticked with that thing unticked [13:09] maybe you should consider upgrading to 14.04 :P [13:10] this is my PC at work; the less I mess with it, the better [13:10] what I should really update is my home PC [13:10] xubuntu 12.04 lts has only 3 years support, so you will have to upgrade eventually :) [13:11] didn't 12.04 already have 5 years support? or not Xubuntu? [13:11] not xubuntu [13:12] also, what do you mean with "have to upgrade"? I clearly won't "have to" anything; my home PC is the proof of that! [13:12] (although I should reeeally consider upgrading 10.10 to 14.04) [13:12] support-wise it is necessary [13:13] yeah, support-wise of course [13:15] cousteau it's time ... [13:15] I know, but I was planning on waiting until I buy a new PC [13:15] and so far I've been too lazy to buy a new PC [13:16] cousteau understandable. but as 10.10 is no longer supported, you're rather ... exposed. [13:17] 10.10 was no longer supported 2 years ago; now it's "dude, upgrade that piece of ****!" [13:17] I don't think I'll get a virus anyway [13:17] cousteau yes, but I was being polite. [13:17] heh [13:18] the software I use normally is more or less up to date anyway [13:18] cousteau I dual boot, but for the past 3 years, I've been booting ubuntu 90% of the time. I can't remember my last virus [13:19] I do. I once booted on Windows with the PC at work because I had to do a powerpoint presentation, and BAM, pc froze [13:19] I suspect it's a virus because it happened to everybody at work [13:19] or maybe a faulty update [13:20] cousteau libreoffice can import/export windows PPT's [13:20] yeah, but compatibility isn't 100% polished [13:21] cousteau true. on my next laptop, I'll probably install windows to a virtualbox rather than a partition. best of both worlds [13:21] text rotated 90° gets messed up, some fonts the document template had are missing, the drawings and arrow styles change... [13:22] mostly minor issues, but I didn't want to be bothered with that. It was a small presentation after all. [15:08] hmm, have a relatively fresh 14.04 install. now lightdm doesn't seem to start, but in fact in dmesg I see it dies: init: lightdm main process (1053) terminated with status 1 [16:03] howdy [16:09] * ElderDryas wipes down an already clear bar and says "What's troubling ya buddy" :) [16:16] How can I eliminate the use of log in password. I am the only user of the computer. === [1]amigamagic is now known as amigamagic [16:21] xubuntu468 go to setting manager?users icon and it can be changed there [16:21] settings manager > users [16:22] the password cand be updated or removed [16:22] Too late Jim, he's dead.... [16:22] ah damn, didn't notice [17:00] is this on [17:00] no [17:00] good [17:02] i did a dumb thing and dont have the skill to undo it [17:03] on my login i turned off the display [17:08] is there a "safe mode" i can login to so i can reset my display setting [17:08] what means I turned off the display? What have you done? [17:09] amigamagic I was just about to ask that same question [17:10] there is a 'safe mode' though, if you can log off without a hard shutdown unless that's the only way [17:10] in settings manager [17:10] no at start-up [17:10] the use this display toggle [17:11] from what I can see there is no "display toggle" function in the settings [17:11] the start-up screen giving you a choice of ubuntu/xubuntu or the next line down where it has the 'safe mode' choice [17:13] that could be a good choice if he has messed up with its display configuration [17:13] if i plugin a monitor it gives you the toggle [17:14] nubuntu, maybe you have more than one monitor attached to your pc? Or maybe a notebook with an external monitor? [17:14] yup [17:15] yup what? [17:15] so now when i login it goes blank [17:16] nubuntu, try to connect the other monitor if you have disabled the default one [17:16] disabled both like a idoot [17:17] like a noob [17:17] it's strange that you can disable both the outputs... If it's possible, then I think it's a bug... [17:18] as said sterrats, you could try the safe mode [17:19] login menu doesn't have safe mode option [17:20] it's not the login... It's a menu that you see after reboot [17:20] what does your login menu say? [17:21] yes your re boot menu what does it say? [17:21] reboot menu gives you choices [17:22] it has only xubuntu and ubuntu [17:23] no safe mode [17:23] so now im on guest [17:23] guest is safe! [17:24] oh [17:24] careful not lock session :D [17:25] so i can reset setting of my accout from guest? [17:25] no [17:26] nubuntu; ctrl+alt+F2 [17:27] when [17:27] but wait, tell me again your problem, since I didn't read it [17:29] on my login i'v turned off the display setting so when i login the screen goes blank [17:30] nubuntu, I don't know if it could help, but you can try to create another user and then transfer all your documents/desktop/etc. there. After that, you can delete the old account. [17:31] might have to do that [17:31] can you login into the normal ubuntu session? [17:32] am now as guest [17:32] and with your user account? [17:33] screen goes black [17:33] not the best choice but it works. There is no .xsession file or others configuration files which we can remove them and the session will start from the begining? [17:34] screen goes blank even when running the ubuntu session (unity)? [17:35] brainwash don't know [17:35] Xfce saves its diplay configuration here ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml [17:35] So, I suggest that you delete this file [17:36] k [17:36] :) [17:37] can i get to that as guest? [17:38] no [17:39] you need to ctrl+alt+F2 ||| login/passwd and then yes! [17:42] hello world [17:44] hello echo [17:45] he could do a "gksudo thunar" and do all he want with the file manager as root [17:46] amigamagic: as guest-user you cannot [17:47] mmmh... maybe you are right, I don't never used guest mode [17:47] I think it's not in the sudoers group [17:49] anyway I don't think it's a good thing that you can disable all of your displays if you have more than one monitor [17:50] iap, and that's the secure way. Good to browsing.. bad if you lock session (ask you for passwd (and is not defined)) but no clues of browsing. [17:51] each guest session is random (guest-ad3d3e) \\ if you logout it will create a different one heheh like! [17:51] that's good [17:51] guest user should not mess in the system [18:44] Hello, i have a problem with resuming my laptop from sleep. [18:44] amigamagic: almost everything is possible browsing... and when session is up and running you will have the space you need.. [18:44] I open the lid, lightdm pops up correctly to input password. [18:44] I press enter and my screen turns off. [18:45] I can hear the music but lcd is completely powered off. [18:45] What might be the problem? [18:45] CasaViva, I don't know what are you referring to [18:45] gpu [18:45] bix_nood: See (Known Issues) http://xubuntu.org/news/14-04-release/ [18:46] amigamagic: guest-random-creation-of-xubuntu [18:46] drc: Thank you very much. [18:46] bix_nood: Wish there was a better answer :) [18:48] CasaViva, I still don't understand... What's your point? [18:53] Hi, I have xubuntu 14.04 and one problem: After putting the computer to sleep (suspend), the session the screen (where put the nick and pass) appear, but after that just a black display screen appear. I think is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736 how can I solve it? [18:53] Launchpad bug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Black screen after login from suspend in Xubuntu 14.04" [High,Confirmed] [18:54] ramrebol1: you've already linked the bug report.. so, do you expect some magical answer from us? :) [18:56] I don't need solve the bug, I just looking for a solution. [18:56] did you read comments? [18:57] easiest solution would be to disable light-locker [18:57] ramrebol1: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu [18:59] brainwash: Now I see that the answer 20 has a (ugly) solution, thanks and sorry (my english is horrible). [18:59] don't worry :) [18:59] ramrebol1: It's better than my $LANGUAGE :) [19:00] drc: thanks too. I going to try to disable light-locker and reboot. After that I going to read your link [19:00] ramrebol1: read it first [19:00] well, my $LANGUAGE is en_US :P [19:01] ok drc, I going to read now :) [19:08] Hi I'm having a few issues with screen locking in xubuntu 14.04, specifically if attempt to lock the screenusing the lock action button it actually switches to a different vt with a login on it and if you switch back to the original vt it's not locked [19:08] is this a known thing? [19:09] chelgrian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu [19:09] drc: I have a question with your link. It says "You can try running xrandr, which has worked as a problem-free workaround for some users". I don't know whats means, can you explain me? [19:09] nope...don't use it, don't know :) [19:10] chelgrian: My Bad...not quite your problem (we've had a bunch of "suspend problems" today and I jumped the gun...sorry [19:10] drc: I've tried removing xscreensaver it helps a bit [19:10] but the screen still doesn't always lock [19:11] I'm putting this down to something weird with light-locker, I'm moving from ubuntu 12.04 and there xscreensaver works and I don't seem to have light locker installed [19:11] chelgrian: I don't use screensavers, suspend or screen locking, so I really have no idea..someone else might. [19:11] however lightdm doesn't seem tohave the respawn on a different vt issue there [19:12] * chelgrian doesn't need suspend or screensavers, just screen locking :) [19:12] thanks anyway ;) I go to disable light-locker and reboot. Wish me look ;) [19:13] for prevention of session hijack when I'm not at my desk [19:13] Luck! [19:13] ramrebol1: you only need to relog [19:14] there's also a really odd problem with lightdm eating the first two keystrokes when I type my password :/ [19:16] this is uber odd, if I restart the session then light-locker will lock the screen the first time then never again [19:16] so it most likely crashes after the first time [19:16] check the process list [19:17] it's still running [19:18] ok, open a terminal window and run "killall light-locker; light-locker --debug" [19:18] then test again [19:18] thanks. I "solve" it. The "solution": to disable light-locker (on light locker settings). Now laptop not suspend automatically when I close the lid, I need to press the button "Suspend", but it is enough for me ;) [19:19] And obviously: when back from suspend works fine (not appears the black screen) :) [19:20] that's great [19:21] this is really odd. What happes is that doing light-locker-command -l (to immediately lock) doesn't cause any output however it does cause it to switch to a login box on vt7. Manually switching back to vt8 lightlocker just reports some stuff about session switching which it's getting from listening to debug [19:21] sorry I mean dbus [19:21] and the session on vt8 has not been locked [19:22] (this is a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04 btw now with xscreensaver purged) [19:22] howdy folks [19:23] i'm having an issue with the panel, anyone on to help? [19:23] RippSteakface, ask your question and find out [19:24] one sec [19:24] I have a few things running in my panel right now (I was up late last night making sure everything was working properly), but I'm having an issue with positioning. Aside from the space designated for open programs, from left to right I have the sensors plugin displaying 3 sensors info, then the indicators plugin displaying hardware usage, wifi, sound, irc, battery with percentage, date/time. [19:24] What I'd prefer to do is switch the positions of the sensors plugin and indicators plugin. The problem comes when attempt to move one or the other, because the indicators plugin takes the rest of the icons with it (wifi, sound, etc), breaking up layout I want. I'd simply like to swap the two, but it looks like the indicators plugin is stuck to the others. I'm sure there's a way to separate it, but how? [19:24] (that was posted on the official forums but no reply yet) [19:31] RippSteakface: As far as can tell the 'indicators' is a set package (app indicators, Messaging Menu, Power Managemant and sound menu). You can turn off an or all but not seperate. You might be able to add another indicator and have just want you want in each. [19:31] you can make ones hidden [19:31] and change the order [19:32] in the indicator settings dialog box [19:32] That's what I mean, have 2 with what you don't want in wach hidden. [19:32] s/wach/each [19:32] anyone know a better way? [19:33] brainwash: weird for some reason gnome-sceensaver is also installed and running [19:33] ohh I see, the little boxes from the system load indicator are a part of the indicator set in the panel, whereas the stuff monitoring the CPU temp etc is separate [19:33] I've now purged that as well [19:33] RippSteakface: yes :) [19:33] i think i understand now, [19:33] still a noob here :) [19:33] Only one way to learn...break things :) [19:34] indeed! [19:34] i was up pretty late working on this little netbook [19:34] drc: the solutionis to purge gnome-screensaver [19:34] that must be eating something on dbus so that lightlocker never sees the lock request [19:35] any idea which package tofile a bug against? [19:35] none I guess, it's caused by the user configuration [19:35] simply don't run both at the same time [19:36] no this is caused by installing ubuntu then installing the xubuntu-desktop package [19:36] someothing somehwere should have a conflicts on gnome-screensaver [19:36] so it's not a bug in ubuntu or xubuntu [19:37] but what if you want to have both installed, but only one active at the same time? [19:37] or if more than one user account is preset [19:37] present [19:38] you certainly should be allowed to have both desktops installed at the same time [19:38] one user likes light-locker, the other one gnome-screensaver [19:39] well due to the lightdm multiple vt behaviour gnome-screensaver won't actually work properly with newer lightdms [19:39] the best that would happen is you have a screen:0 attached to one vt say 7 locked and there will be a login box on vt 8 [19:40] * chelgrian is going to think about this [19:40] so the problem I'm left with now is lightdm eating keystrokes which is definately not an xubuntu problem :) [19:41] wow [22:49] hello [22:49] i just installed 14.04 on my laptop, now i'm getting the "screen goes black" bug when i close the lid. [22:49] fortunately i mapped a key to "xrandr --auto" but how do i fix this? [22:51] delt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu [22:53] yes, i know all that, but i need this to be "user friendly" for my parents. [23:09] i created a /etc/acpi/lid.sh but it doesn't get executed on lid open/close :/ [23:11] oh, forgot to chmod +x it [23:12] nope :( still not running even after restarting acpid [23:22] and even if it did, it can't open the :0 display [23:39] how do i get my computer to boot in and run it? [23:50] Hello Xubuntu fans! Is anyone free to help me with a keyboard question? [23:51] OneWithWaves, ask the question and find out :) [23:53] Awesome, thanks! After upgrading to 14.04 from 13.10, the Bluetooth toggle key on my keyboard has been remapped to brightness control in the OS... It still powers BT on and off on the mobo but it isn't recognized by the software. [23:55] In other words, I can power BT on and off but Xubuntu no longer acknowledges it, and when I press the button to turn it back on, it turns the brightness up on my laptop... Turning BT off via the button doesn't have any effect in the OS. [23:56] BT can be on but Xubuntu says it's off and vice versa. Weird side effect with brightness when using the keyboard to turn hardware BT power on / off. [23:56] Is there any way to reassign the button to toggle the BT software in Xubuntu on and off? Maybe via a terminal command from within settings manager?