| ahoneybun | hey jose how is the new site going? | 00:59 |
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| jose | ahoneybun: hey! I pretty much like it, it's very stable, but we've still got some things to look after | 00:59 |
| ahoneybun | jose, I see ovidiu-florin is looking to edit it even more with html/css with the help of the evolve theme team who made the theme | 01:00 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Both accepted. Thanks. | 01:00 |
| jose | ahoneybun: not sure how that's going to go, haven't heard from him in a good while | 01:01 |
| jose | but I can help with whatever needed, just let me know :) | 01:01 |
| ahoneybun | tbh I have been out for a while as well I'm on Ubuntu right now | 01:03 |
| jose | I've always been on Ubuntu :P | 01:05 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] language kcm doesn't write env setup script @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) | 01:41 |
| === micahg_ is now known as micahg | ||
| soee | good morning | 06:16 |
| Riddell | morning soee | 06:22 |
| Riddell | ScottK: it's not been decided if we'll ship with plasma 1 or plasma 5, I'd be all for shipping with plasma 5 if it's at all sane | 07:29 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:47 |
| Riddell | it's olivier! | 07:51 |
| lordievader | Hey Riddell, how are you doing? | 07:51 |
| Riddell | nervous, got a plasma beta due today, wonder if I can do it successfully | 07:52 |
| Riddell | just some little tars, how hard can it be? | 07:53 |
| lordievader | I'm sure you will be successful :) | 07:53 |
| lordievader | I mean look at Trusty, that right there is proof that you and the rest of the Kubuntu team are capable of awesome! | 07:54 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1312895] Cannot login into KDE after upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1312895 (by HugoHirsch) | 08:37 |
| lordievader | maysara in #kubuntu has trouble installing ufw-kde, he/she gets this error: http://paste.kde.org/pkhwmkwsb Is that a packageging issue or is it his/her system? | 08:44 |
| apachelogger | lordievader: system, they have a ufw-kde version from a foreign source apparently | 08:51 |
| lordievader | Ok, I'll pass it along. | 08:51 |
| Quintasan | \o | 08:52 |
| Riddell | "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.kde.ufw.policy', which is also in package build 20140504-1" looks like something they've installed | 08:52 |
| Riddell | lordievader: if they run dpkg -S /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.kde.ufw.policy they might find out what it is | 08:53 |
| Riddell | or they can just force the matter with dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/ufw-kde_0.5.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 08:53 |
| lordievader | Problem solved, thanks apachelogger, Riddell. | 08:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world | 09:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | jose: the progress with the theme should be on the mail list. | 09:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've been colaboratig with Robert in getting the child theme going | 09:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: "Two existing ~kubuntu-developer members need to vouge for the candidates abilities to conclude the application process" | 09:41 |
| * shadeslayer fixes to vouch | 09:41 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it's a wiki | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: le fixed mate | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | nice | 09:43 |
| ovidiu-florin | apachelogger: this might trike as an odd question, in your "new wiki" email, what was the first word you wrote? | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | ovidiu-florin: french greeting ~= hi | 10:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | apachelogger: salut ? | 10:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | I just wanted to make sure, because it's the same in romanian, and I suspected Kmail tried to translate the email somehow. Since I've seen this before. | 10:17 |
| apachelogger | kmail translating emails would be fancy | 10:17 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 10:20 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:09 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I thought we did decide. | 11:45 |
| Riddell | I don't think it's been discussed too much | 11:47 |
| Riddell | we're got a meeting on monday to kick off that discussion | 11:47 |
| yofel | FWIW, I'm for first keeping it in a PPA for testing and do the final decision some time before FF. | 12:03 |
| yofel | (I wouldn't mind putting a TECHPREVIEW stamp on 14.10 but I'm not sure if that's the best thing to do) | 12:03 |
| Quintasan | yofel: You know, 4.0 also had the TP stamp on it and everyone started bashing | 12:11 |
| Quintasan | :P | 12:11 |
| yofel | hency my opinion on this ^^ | 12:11 |
| yofel | -y | 12:11 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: with 4.0 we released two versions of kubuntu, 1 the LTS with KDE 3 and 1 with big warnings with 4.0 | 12:16 |
| Riddell | but now we've just had an LTS | 12:16 |
| Riddell | so we can put the big warnings on the main release | 12:16 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I do realise that the thing is that Technical Preview doesnt stop anyone from using that and the proceding with bashing | 12:16 |
| Riddell | it's also questionable if we want to put technical preview on a main kubuntu release | 12:20 |
| apachelogger | actually | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | people didn't bash 4.0 on kubuntu | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | they did however for 4.1 which IIRC we shipped by default in the release after LTS | 12:34 |
| yofel | 4.1 was in intrepid, right | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | so it does in fact make a difference whether you put an unpolished software stack on a secondary ISO that people may choose to test, or whether you offer it to people as a regular release ISO | 12:35 |
| allee | Is it intentional that in precise the upgrade from kde 4.12 -> 4.13 does not install baloo pkg? | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | if I had a say in it there would not have been 4.13 for precise :P | 12:40 |
| * yofel thought we at least had a recommends on baloo *somewhere* other than the metapackage | 12:41 | |
| yofel | Quintasan: btw. any news wrt. sddm? | 12:43 |
| yofel | there was some rather confusing posts on the debian RFP/lp bug | 12:43 |
| Riddell | hasn't shadeslayer packaged sddm that for the neon5 iso? | 12:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I have, though it needs work | 13:36 |
| Odur_ | Dang... I,ve found a regression in 14.04 | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | Odur_: hm? | 13:42 |
| Odur_ | When I hotplug my USB headset it only get registerd by pulseaudio as stereo output, but if it's connected while booting it's stereo duplex | 13:43 |
| Riddell | Odur_: does it work otherwise? | 13:45 |
| Riddell | I don't know what stereo duplex means | 13:45 |
| Odur_ | both input and output | 13:45 |
| Odur_ | This time it gets registred as Mono Input, but no output... Erratic behaviour | 13:46 |
| Riddell | it's been my experience that sometimes it works and sometimes not so much | 13:46 |
| Odur_ | Riddell: So, if I boot with the headset connectet it's just fine, but if I connect it after login it's just output OR input only, It has worked flawless in both 13.10 and 13.04 | 13:47 |
| Riddell | Odur_: it'll be the change to gstreamer 1.0 | 13:48 |
| Odur_ | Ok, so gstreamer handles hardware Initialization? | 13:49 |
| Riddell | Odur_: phonon-gstreamer should set it up with pulseaudio | 13:50 |
| Riddell | it's all horribly complex | 13:50 |
| Riddell | ask apachelogger where to send bugs | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | to mikey mouse | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | Odur_: you'll want to report a bug against pulseaudio | 13:51 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: he will? | 13:51 |
| Riddell | for something that worked with phonon-gstreamer 0.10 ? | 13:51 |
| Odur_ | :) | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | oh | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | I don't see the relation tbh :P | 13:52 |
| Mamarok | so apparently we have some transcoding problems on Amarok on Trusty, could somebody check this, please? -> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=120863&p=310135#p310135 | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | phonon gstreamer is not the only thing that changed in 14.04 :P | 13:52 |
| Mamarok | I can transcode OK, and I don't remember having installed anything extra, but maybe that was a long time ago and some dependencies changed | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | the thing is, phonon/gstreamer do next to no hardware fiddling, so if stuff shows up incorrectly in the phonon KCM that is most likley a problem with pulseaudio and/or the driver | 13:53 |
| Mamarok | since I use Amarok from git I can't really judge | 13:53 |
| Odur_ | apachelogger: That was my first thought too | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: nothing we can do about that, ffmpeg is a foundations thing | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | he probably should file a bug against libav, but I doubt they will care much and say amarok needs support for avconv | 13:55 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: gah... | 13:55 |
| Mamarok | couldn't we do a trick by dragging in ffmpeg? There is a transitional package | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | that transits to libav-tools | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | and from what I heared the commandline args are simply different | 13:56 |
| Odur_ | Hmm.. alsamixer sees both input and output | 14:03 |
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| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: ping | 14:39 |
| Riddell | hi Etriaph | 14:42 |
| Etriaph | Hi Riddell! | 14:42 |
| Riddell | Etriaph: are you helping ovidiu-florin with the new website? | 14:42 |
| Etriaph | Riddell: Ya, trying to. The theme that's been chosen has turned out to be a bit obtuse when creating a child theme, so we've done some back and forth on options | 14:43 |
| Riddell | Etriaph: why does it need a child theme? (what does that mean exactly?) | 14:43 |
| Etriaph | Riddell: WordPress allows you to create a child of another theme (inherits the parent CSS, JS, display header/footer, in theory); however, Evolve doesn't take nicely to it. Some of the CSS doesn't come across and the Bootstrap usage for the caroussel is enitrely broken. | 14:44 |
| Etriaph | Evolve is both a GPL and commercial theme, so getting support from them is not easy. | 14:45 |
| Etriaph | Riddell: A child theme is created when you want to add your own CSS but want to ensure you can still get updates from the parent safely | 14:45 |
| Etriaph | Riddell: But... it doesn't quite work. :) | 14:47 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion kde4libs 4.13.1 | 14:47 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317937 | 14:47 |
| * Etriaph will be right back | 14:49 | |
| * Etriaph has returned. | 14:54 | |
| * ovidiu-florin is here | 14:55 | |
| ovidiu-florin | Etriaph: pong | 14:55 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: G'day! Nothing yet from the Evolve team. | 14:55 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: We can fork this by doing an SVN export of the 2.9.1 version, but I'm not sure we can fork it in their SVN | 14:56 |
| ovidiu-florin | we don't have to get access to their SVN | 14:56 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: The solution I had come up with involving making symbolic links to those folders will work just fine if they update the theme. | 14:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | we can just get the current version and start our own repo | 14:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | Etriaph: I like that Ideea | 14:57 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: Well that's what I meant, do an SVN export and create a repo elsewhere. | 14:57 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: Do you want to see it working? I can give you a link to my local machine. | 14:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 14:58 |
| Etriaph | k, one sec, gotta configure router | 14:58 |
| Etriaph | http://99.224.66.135/ | 14:59 |
| Etriaph | In this case, updating Evolve is still fully possible as they likely won't move those folders. I would setup a staging vhost though just to be sure. | 15:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | Etriaph: it does not look right here | 15:01 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: Can you take a screenshot for me? Just want to know what you're seeing | 15:02 |
| Etriaph | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/09/plasma-desktopLG2343.png is what I get | 15:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | Etriaph: http://postimg.org/image/vu84pd4jh/ | 15:04 |
| Etriaph | Can you view the source and pastebin me what's in the <head> tags? | 15:05 |
| Etriaph | The vhost I use is kubuntu.dev, it's in my hosts file, it may just be a name resolution issue. | 15:05 |
| Etriaph | If you add that to your hosts file it might clear it up | 15:05 |
| kfunk | Etriaph: wow. what theme (window / borders style) is that? | 15:08 |
| Etriaph | kfunk: qtCurve, my own theme | 15:08 |
| * kfunk wants | 15:08 | |
| Etriaph | kfunk: Give me a sec and I'll throw it on kde-look | 15:08 |
| Etriaph | kfunk: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=165190 | 15:15 |
| Etriaph | Includes the background too. | 15:15 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: If you do: sudo echo "99.224.66.135 kubuntu.dev" >> /etc/hosts | 15:16 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: It should clear it up. I'm assuming that $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] is being used in the head to make the links | 15:17 |
| * Etriaph will be right back, need to save toddler | 15:18 | |
| ovidiu-florin | Etriaph: yup, it works now | 15:21 |
| kfunk | Etriaph: awesome, thanks | 15:24 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: OK, so if you want to avoid forking it, you can create the symlinks as I'd mentioned in the email. | 15:28 |
| ovidiu-florin | Etriaph: ok, I'll do that for now | 15:28 |
| ovidiu-florin | Great suggestion | 15:28 |
| Etriaph | But if you're a stickler for security in the webserver (as I would be) make sure to make a <Directory> entry allowing symbolic links to be followed. | 15:28 |
| * ovidiu-florin is feeling low today | 15:28 | |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: I feel low every day, fibromyalgia | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | I feel low every day too, I'm on earth | 15:29 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: Knocked me out of work about a year ago, still waiting to get into a pain clinic to learn to live with it; upside is I have loads of free time on disability to help out with stuff :) | 15:29 |
| Etriaph | shadeslayer: Low is relative depending on where you live above sea level :) | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | pretty sure Barcelona is at sea level | 15:30 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: OK, so I'll start taking a look at the other tasks then | 15:30 |
| Etriaph | shadeslayer: I would say so :) | 15:30 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: The remaining list looks like a lot of hands on with WordPress, aside from the accordian. Are you looking to source an accordian plugin for this? | 15:34 |
| Etriaph | kfunk: np, hope you enjoy it :) | 15:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | Etriaph: not really | 15:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | that code was written by a friend and it's inserted in the post as JS | 15:40 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: OK, is there anything else that I can do to assist you? | 15:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | Etriaph: let me see | 15:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | did you see the email I sent to Octavio? | 15:43 |
| ovidiu-florin | yesterday | 15:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | it's on the mail list | 15:45 |
| Etriaph | Yes, but I had held off taking any action as I figured he might. | 15:45 |
| Etriaph | And I can't login to Etherpad for link 2 | 15:45 |
| Etriaph | I'm not design-impaired, so I can give some of this a shot. Let me see what I can come up with in the next couple of days regarding layout (link 4) and if I can find a way to get into link 2 I might tackle what I see there too. | 15:47 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: OK, I have a good chunk of stuff I can work on with link 2 and 4 from that email; I'll consider a way to implement and have more information probably by Sunday. If everyone can agree on the layouts/solution I come up with I'll grab the ball on them. Sound fair? | 15:52 |
| ovidiu-florin | Etriaph: you need a KDE identity account to see that etherpad | 15:53 |
| Etriaph | ovidiu-florin: Yup, just set it up :) | 15:53 |
| * Riddell out | 16:08 | |
| Riddell | ninjas: please get packaging :) http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.96.0/ | 16:09 |
| * genii sips his coffee and wonders if there's a hutch.19inch.net | 16:11 | |
| * Etriaph wonders that too now | 16:16 | |
| * BluesKaj doesn't wonder | 16:25 | |
| BluesKaj | :) | 16:25 |
| Etriaph | kfunk: How's that theme working out for you? | 16:38 |
| Etriaph | kfunk: I like feedback :) | 16:38 |
| kfunk | Etriaph: still trying it out. I need a day or so to get used to it. :) | 16:46 |
| kfunk | looks promising so far, didn't use your color scheme, though | 16:46 |
| kfunk | the color scheme is a bit too monochrome for my taste | 16:46 |
| Etriaph | kfunk: It should work well with any colour scheme. I originally used a colourful one, but I tend towards something that doesn't distract me from work | 16:47 |
| Etriaph | kfunk: Would like to see what colour scheme you chose if you happen to have the file handy. | 16:48 |
| kfunk | sure, sec | 16:48 |
| kfunk | Etriaph: http://imagebin.org/309895 | 17:02 |
| Etriaph | That's a great colour scheme, would you mind adding it to kde-look.org at some point? | 17:02 |
| Etriaph | I've never tried using 'Upload Scheme' | 17:03 |
| Etriaph | I don't know if that's opendesktop as a whole, or if it partitions it to the correct site | 17:03 |
| kfunk | Etriaph: tab widgets (the tabs themselves) look a bit odd in your style. could use a bit more padding. | 17:06 |
| Etriaph | Ya, I couldn't figure out how to make tabs look great; I wanted to flatten them out and round them a bit more, just didn't see where to do it. It took me about three hours to get it to where it is. | 17:06 |
| kfunk | Etriaph: http://pastebin.kde.org/pev1fsrjp | 17:08 |
| kfunk | (derived from Oxygen, afair) | 17:08 |
| kfunk | but yeah, thanks for sharing the qtcurve style | 17:09 |
| kfunk | gotta go | 17:09 |
| Etriaph | Take it easy | 17:09 |
| Elv1313 | Hello, is it possible to fast track bug #1316612 ? It was reported 3 time this week and the "just run it as root for now" solution isn't very secure given it is a network facing process. The patch has already been tested by affected users | 17:57 |
| ubottu | bug 1316612 in sflphone (Ubuntu) "SFLPhone-KDE will freeze if an Akonadi request deadlock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316612 | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | yofel: shadeslayer did some work on top of my packaging and I forgot to ask ScottK if he would be willing to look at getting that into Debian instead | 18:48 |
| yofel | looked at the RFP? Someone changed that to ITP at some point, but now it's a RFP again | 18:49 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Nope. | 18:49 |
| Quintasan | yofel: You don't have the bug no. anywhere handy, do you? | 18:51 |
| yofel | I had it somewhere, give me a moment | 18:51 |
| yofel | debian 703519 | 18:52 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 703519 in wnpp "RFP: sddm -- QML based login manager" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/703519 | 18:52 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Thanks | 18:54 |
| yofel | yw | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Please take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/sddm/netrunner-packaging and see if there is anything big preventing us from having that in Debian if you have time | 19:06 |
| Elv1313 | ScottK: Hi, can you fast-track bug #1316612 , it got reported 4 time in the last week, at affect more and more users as time goes on, it is expodentailly problematic | 19:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1316612 in sflphone (Ubuntu) "SFLPhone-KDE will freeze if an Akonadi request deadlock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316612 | 19:17 |
| ScottK | Elv1313: Someone needs to upload it first. | 19:57 |
| Elv1313 | ScottK: who do I have to ping? | 19:58 |
| ScottK | Subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug. | 19:59 |
| ScottK | Otherwise maybe one of the other devs here will have time. | 19:59 |
| Elv1313 | ok, thanks | 20:06 |
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