[00:59] hey jose how is the new site going? [00:59] ahoneybun: hey! I pretty much like it, it's very stable, but we've still got some things to look after [01:00] jose, I see ovidiu-florin is looking to edit it even more with html/css with the help of the evolve theme team who made the theme [01:00] apachelogger: Both accepted. Thanks. [01:01] ahoneybun: not sure how that's going to go, haven't heard from him in a good while [01:01] but I can help with whatever needed, just let me know :) [01:03] tbh I have been out for a while as well I'm on Ubuntu right now [01:05] I've always been on Ubuntu :P [01:41] ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] language kcm doesn't write env setup script @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) === micahg_ is now known as micahg [06:16] good morning [06:22] morning soee [07:29] ScottK: it's not been decided if we'll ship with plasma 1 or plasma 5, I'd be all for shipping with plasma 5 if it's at all sane [07:47] Good morning. [07:51] it's olivier! [07:51] Hey Riddell, how are you doing? [07:52] nervous, got a plasma beta due today, wonder if I can do it successfully [07:53] just some little tars, how hard can it be? [07:53] I'm sure you will be successful :) [07:54] I mean look at Trusty, that right there is proof that you and the rest of the Kubuntu team are capable of awesome! [08:37] ::workspace-bugs:: [1312895] Cannot login into KDE after upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1312895 (by HugoHirsch) [08:44] maysara in #kubuntu has trouble installing ufw-kde, he/she gets this error: http://paste.kde.org/pkhwmkwsb Is that a packageging issue or is it his/her system? [08:51] lordievader: system, they have a ufw-kde version from a foreign source apparently [08:51] Ok, I'll pass it along. [08:52] \o [08:52] "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.kde.ufw.policy', which is also in package build 20140504-1" looks like something they've installed [08:53] lordievader: if they run dpkg -S /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.kde.ufw.policy they might find out what it is [08:53] or they can just force the matter with dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/ufw-kde_0.5.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb [08:58] Problem solved, thanks apachelogger, Riddell. [09:37] hello world [09:37] jose: the progress with the theme should be on the mail list. [09:37] I've been colaboratig with Robert in getting the child theme going [09:41] apachelogger: "Two existing ~kubuntu-developer members need to vouge for the candidates abilities to conclude the application process" [09:41] * shadeslayer fixes to vouch [09:43] shadeslayer: it's a wiki [09:43] apachelogger: le fixed mate [09:43] nice [10:13] apachelogger: this might trike as an odd question, in your "new wiki" email, what was the first word you wrote? [10:15] ovidiu-florin: french greeting ~= hi [10:15] apachelogger: salut ? [10:17] I just wanted to make sure, because it's the same in romanian, and I suspected Kmail tried to translate the email somehow. Since I've seen this before. [10:17] kmail translating emails would be fancy [10:20] ^^ [11:09] 'Morning folks [11:45] Riddell: I thought we did decide. [11:47] I don't think it's been discussed too much [11:47] we're got a meeting on monday to kick off that discussion [12:03] FWIW, I'm for first keeping it in a PPA for testing and do the final decision some time before FF. [12:03] (I wouldn't mind putting a TECHPREVIEW stamp on 14.10 but I'm not sure if that's the best thing to do) [12:11] yofel: You know, 4.0 also had the TP stamp on it and everyone started bashing [12:11] :P [12:11] hency my opinion on this ^^ [12:11] -y [12:16] Quintasan: with 4.0 we released two versions of kubuntu, 1 the LTS with KDE 3 and 1 with big warnings with 4.0 [12:16] but now we've just had an LTS [12:16] so we can put the big warnings on the main release [12:16] Riddell: I do realise that the thing is that Technical Preview doesnt stop anyone from using that and the proceding with bashing [12:20] it's also questionable if we want to put technical preview on a main kubuntu release [12:34] actually [12:34] people didn't bash 4.0 on kubuntu [12:34] they did however for 4.1 which IIRC we shipped by default in the release after LTS [12:35] 4.1 was in intrepid, right [12:35] so it does in fact make a difference whether you put an unpolished software stack on a secondary ISO that people may choose to test, or whether you offer it to people as a regular release ISO [12:39] Is it intentional that in precise the upgrade from kde 4.12 -> 4.13 does not install baloo pkg? [12:40] if I had a say in it there would not have been 4.13 for precise :P [12:41] * yofel thought we at least had a recommends on baloo *somewhere* other than the metapackage [12:43] Quintasan: btw. any news wrt. sddm? [12:43] there was some rather confusing posts on the debian RFP/lp bug [12:49] hasn't shadeslayer packaged sddm that for the neon5 iso? [13:36] Riddell: I have, though it needs work [13:42] Dang... I,ve found a regression in 14.04 [13:42] Odur_: hm? [13:43] When I hotplug my USB headset it only get registerd by pulseaudio as stereo output, but if it's connected while booting it's stereo duplex [13:45] Odur_: does it work otherwise? [13:45] I don't know what stereo duplex means [13:45] both input and output [13:46] This time it gets registred as Mono Input, but no output... Erratic behaviour [13:46] it's been my experience that sometimes it works and sometimes not so much [13:47] Riddell: So, if I boot with the headset connectet it's just fine, but if I connect it after login it's just output OR input only, It has worked flawless in both 13.10 and 13.04 [13:48] Odur_: it'll be the change to gstreamer 1.0 [13:49] Ok, so gstreamer handles hardware Initialization? [13:50] Odur_: phonon-gstreamer should set it up with pulseaudio [13:50] it's all horribly complex [13:50] ask apachelogger where to send bugs [13:50] to mikey mouse [13:51] Odur_: you'll want to report a bug against pulseaudio [13:51] apachelogger: he will? [13:51] for something that worked with phonon-gstreamer 0.10 ? [13:52] :) [13:52] oh [13:52] I don't see the relation tbh :P [13:52] so apparently we have some transcoding problems on Amarok on Trusty, could somebody check this, please? -> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=120863&p=310135#p310135 [13:52] phonon gstreamer is not the only thing that changed in 14.04 :P [13:53] I can transcode OK, and I don't remember having installed anything extra, but maybe that was a long time ago and some dependencies changed [13:53] the thing is, phonon/gstreamer do next to no hardware fiddling, so if stuff shows up incorrectly in the phonon KCM that is most likley a problem with pulseaudio and/or the driver [13:53] since I use Amarok from git I can't really judge [13:54] apachelogger: That was my first thought too [13:54] Mamarok: nothing we can do about that, ffmpeg is a foundations thing [13:55] he probably should file a bug against libav, but I doubt they will care much and say amarok needs support for avconv [13:55] apachelogger: gah... [13:55] couldn't we do a trick by dragging in ffmpeg? There is a transitional package [13:56] that transits to libav-tools [13:56] and from what I heared the commandline args are simply different [14:03] Hmm.. alsamixer sees both input and output === Odur_ is now known as Odur [14:39] ovidiu-florin: ping [14:42] hi Etriaph [14:42] Hi Riddell! [14:42] Etriaph: are you helping ovidiu-florin with the new website? [14:43] Riddell: Ya, trying to. The theme that's been chosen has turned out to be a bit obtuse when creating a child theme, so we've done some back and forth on options [14:43] Etriaph: why does it need a child theme? (what does that mean exactly?) [14:44] Riddell: WordPress allows you to create a child of another theme (inherits the parent CSS, JS, display header/footer, in theory); however, Evolve doesn't take nicely to it. Some of the CSS doesn't come across and the Bootstrap usage for the caroussel is enitrely broken. [14:45] Evolve is both a GPL and commercial theme, so getting support from them is not easy. [14:45] Riddell: A child theme is created when you want to add your own CSS but want to ensure you can still get updates from the parent safely [14:47] Riddell: But... it doesn't quite work. :) [14:47] kubotu: newversion kde4libs 4.13.1 [14:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317937 [14:49] * Etriaph will be right back [14:54] * Etriaph has returned. [14:55] * ovidiu-florin is here [14:55] Etriaph: pong [14:55] ovidiu-florin: G'day! Nothing yet from the Evolve team. [14:56] ovidiu-florin: We can fork this by doing an SVN export of the 2.9.1 version, but I'm not sure we can fork it in their SVN [14:56] we don't have to get access to their SVN [14:57] ovidiu-florin: The solution I had come up with involving making symbolic links to those folders will work just fine if they update the theme. [14:57] we can just get the current version and start our own repo [14:57] Etriaph: I like that Ideea [14:57] ovidiu-florin: Well that's what I meant, do an SVN export and create a repo elsewhere. [14:57] ovidiu-florin: Do you want to see it working? I can give you a link to my local machine. [14:58] ok [14:58] k, one sec, gotta configure router [14:59] http://99.224.66.135/ [15:00] In this case, updating Evolve is still fully possible as they likely won't move those folders. I would setup a staging vhost though just to be sure. [15:01] Etriaph: it does not look right here [15:02] ovidiu-florin: Can you take a screenshot for me? Just want to know what you're seeing [15:04] http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/09/plasma-desktopLG2343.png is what I get [15:04] Etriaph: http://postimg.org/image/vu84pd4jh/ [15:05] Can you view the source and pastebin me what's in the tags? [15:05] The vhost I use is kubuntu.dev, it's in my hosts file, it may just be a name resolution issue. [15:05] If you add that to your hosts file it might clear it up [15:08] Etriaph: wow. what theme (window / borders style) is that? [15:08] kfunk: qtCurve, my own theme [15:08] * kfunk wants [15:08] kfunk: Give me a sec and I'll throw it on kde-look [15:15] kfunk: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=165190 [15:15] Includes the background too. [15:16] ovidiu-florin: If you do: sudo echo "99.224.66.135 kubuntu.dev" >> /etc/hosts [15:17] ovidiu-florin: It should clear it up. I'm assuming that $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] is being used in the head to make the links [15:18] * Etriaph will be right back, need to save toddler [15:21] Etriaph: yup, it works now [15:24] Etriaph: awesome, thanks [15:28] ovidiu-florin: OK, so if you want to avoid forking it, you can create the symlinks as I'd mentioned in the email. [15:28] Etriaph: ok, I'll do that for now [15:28] Great suggestion [15:28] But if you're a stickler for security in the webserver (as I would be) make sure to make a entry allowing symbolic links to be followed. [15:28] * ovidiu-florin is feeling low today [15:28] ovidiu-florin: I feel low every day, fibromyalgia [15:29] I feel low every day too, I'm on earth [15:29] ovidiu-florin: Knocked me out of work about a year ago, still waiting to get into a pain clinic to learn to live with it; upside is I have loads of free time on disability to help out with stuff :) [15:30] shadeslayer: Low is relative depending on where you live above sea level :) [15:30] pretty sure Barcelona is at sea level [15:30] ovidiu-florin: OK, so I'll start taking a look at the other tasks then [15:30] shadeslayer: I would say so :) [15:34] ovidiu-florin: The remaining list looks like a lot of hands on with WordPress, aside from the accordian. Are you looking to source an accordian plugin for this? [15:38] kfunk: np, hope you enjoy it :) [15:39] Etriaph: not really [15:40] that code was written by a friend and it's inserted in the post as JS [15:40] ovidiu-florin: OK, is there anything else that I can do to assist you? [15:42] Etriaph: let me see [15:43] did you see the email I sent to Octavio? [15:44] yesterday [15:45] it's on the mail list [15:45] Yes, but I had held off taking any action as I figured he might. [15:45] And I can't login to Etherpad for link 2 [15:47] I'm not design-impaired, so I can give some of this a shot. Let me see what I can come up with in the next couple of days regarding layout (link 4) and if I can find a way to get into link 2 I might tackle what I see there too. [15:52] ovidiu-florin: OK, I have a good chunk of stuff I can work on with link 2 and 4 from that email; I'll consider a way to implement and have more information probably by Sunday. If everyone can agree on the layouts/solution I come up with I'll grab the ball on them. Sound fair? [15:53] Etriaph: you need a KDE identity account to see that etherpad [15:53] ovidiu-florin: Yup, just set it up :) [16:08] * Riddell out [16:09] ninjas: please get packaging :) http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.96.0/ [16:11] * genii sips his coffee and wonders if there's a hutch.19inch.net [16:16] * Etriaph wonders that too now [16:25] * BluesKaj doesn't wonder [16:25] :) [16:38] kfunk: How's that theme working out for you? [16:38] kfunk: I like feedback :) [16:46] Etriaph: still trying it out. I need a day or so to get used to it. :) [16:46] looks promising so far, didn't use your color scheme, though [16:46] the color scheme is a bit too monochrome for my taste [16:47] kfunk: It should work well with any colour scheme. I originally used a colourful one, but I tend towards something that doesn't distract me from work [16:48] kfunk: Would like to see what colour scheme you chose if you happen to have the file handy. [16:48] sure, sec [17:02] Etriaph: http://imagebin.org/309895 [17:02] That's a great colour scheme, would you mind adding it to kde-look.org at some point? [17:03] I've never tried using 'Upload Scheme' [17:03] I don't know if that's opendesktop as a whole, or if it partitions it to the correct site [17:06] Etriaph: tab widgets (the tabs themselves) look a bit odd in your style. could use a bit more padding. [17:06] Ya, I couldn't figure out how to make tabs look great; I wanted to flatten them out and round them a bit more, just didn't see where to do it. It took me about three hours to get it to where it is. [17:08] Etriaph: http://pastebin.kde.org/pev1fsrjp [17:08] (derived from Oxygen, afair) [17:09] but yeah, thanks for sharing the qtcurve style [17:09] gotta go [17:09] Take it easy [17:57] Hello, is it possible to fast track bug #1316612 ? It was reported 3 time this week and the "just run it as root for now" solution isn't very secure given it is a network facing process. The patch has already been tested by affected users [17:57] bug 1316612 in sflphone (Ubuntu) "SFLPhone-KDE will freeze if an Akonadi request deadlock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316612 [18:48] yofel: shadeslayer did some work on top of my packaging and I forgot to ask ScottK if he would be willing to look at getting that into Debian instead [18:49] looked at the RFP? Someone changed that to ITP at some point, but now it's a RFP again [18:49] yofel: Nope. [18:51] yofel: You don't have the bug no. anywhere handy, do you? [18:51] I had it somewhere, give me a moment [18:52] debian 703519 [18:52] Debian bug 703519 in wnpp "RFP: sddm -- QML based login manager" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/703519 [18:54] yofel: Thanks [18:54] yw [19:06] ScottK: Please take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/sddm/netrunner-packaging and see if there is anything big preventing us from having that in Debian if you have time [19:17] ScottK: Hi, can you fast-track bug #1316612 , it got reported 4 time in the last week, at affect more and more users as time goes on, it is expodentailly problematic [19:17] bug 1316612 in sflphone (Ubuntu) "SFLPhone-KDE will freeze if an Akonadi request deadlock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316612 [19:57] Elv1313: Someone needs to upload it first. [19:58] ScottK: who do I have to ping? [19:59] Subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug. [19:59] Otherwise maybe one of the other devs here will have time. [20:06] ok, thanks