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pittiGood morning04:42
mpt“Passwords or encryption keys are required to access the network 'COWF'. I’m pretending not to know *which* are required.” — NetworkManager07:02
mptcharles, could you follow up on bug 1196059? Seems like one or two other bugs there that will get forgotten in a report of a fixed bug07:21
didrocksmpt: hey, do you know who I can contact so that ubuntu-fr get the dvd covers source? As usual, we are doing our own french respin and this time, we didn't get the sources07:33
mptdidrocks, Marcus Haslam07:33
didrocksmpt: thanks!07:34
mptdidrocks, and if something that usually happens didn’t happen this time, please ask him to add it to the checklist for things to do when producing the artwork.07:34
didrocksmpt: yeah, will surely do! thanks again for the pointer :)07:34
Laneymorning!08:03
darkxstLaney, Hey08:04
Laneyhey ;-)08:04
seb128good morning desktopers, happy friday!08:06
didrocksmorning Laney, darkxst, seb128!08:06
darkxsthey didrocks, seb128!08:07
Laneygood fridays off?08:09
Laneythursdays*08:09
didrocksLaney: oh, we can get Friday off as well? \o/08:09
seb128quite good indeed!08:09
didrocksyeah, was nice thanks!08:09
didrocks:)08:09
seb128except the weather maybe08:09
didrocksthe weather was perfect here :)08:09
seb128nice08:10
seb128I had no issue with the grey weather, I played tennis indoor and went to the spa in the afternoon08:10
seb128but weather is still supposed to be not-so-nice for the w.e :/08:10
didrocksargh :/08:11
Laneyyeah, same here08:12
didrocks(should be fine here on saturday, not sunday)08:12
Laneyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/264117008:12
seb128quite mixed weather08:13
didrocksargh, and a deja-dup backup failing again :/08:14
* didrocks looks at mterry, who isn't there08:14
seb128same error you had before?08:15
didrocksyeah08:15
didrocksI guess it's only when it's trying to do a restore test08:15
didrocksand no duplicity crash08:16
didrocksI'll keep things opened and see with him08:16
darkxstLaney, so how do go about getting colord-gtk promoted again?08:19
Laneyan archive admin can do it08:20
seb128just get it used08:20
seb128that's going to make it show on component mismatch08:20
darkxstseb128,https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/1:3.8.6-0ubuntu108:21
darkxst=dep-wait08:21
darkxstwill that generate a mismatch?08:21
didrocks(done)08:22
seb128darkxst, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.txt08:24
seb128 o colord-gtk: gir1.2-colordgtk-1.0 libcolord-gtk-dev libcolord-gtk108:24
seb128   MIR: #1282372 (Fix Committed)08:24
seb128   [Reverse-Depends: Rescued from colord-gtk, libcolord-gtk-dev]08:24
seb128   [Reverse-Build-Depends: gnome-control-center (MAIN)]08:24
seb128didrocks, done = promotion?08:24
Laneythe proposed one doesn't generate emails though, so it's easier to miss08:25
didrocksseb128: yeah08:25
* Laney stabs live-build08:25
seb128didrocks, thanks08:25
didrockssee bug :)08:25
didrocksyw!08:25
seb128doh, tracker MIR08:26
didrocksseb128: yeah, I put that on the shelf08:26
didrocksI'm really vary about it08:26
seb128darkxst, nautilus still behaves the exact same way than before if tracker is not installed?08:26
darkxstseb128, will make sure tracker plugin on runs on GNOME sessions08:27
seb128well, I've no doubt you are going to make sure tracker works for you08:27
seb128but please make sure it doesn't create extra depends or behaviour changes on other desktops08:27
seb128those of us who don't want tracker08:28
darkxstseb128, it will create a dep on libtracker08:28
darkxstbut not the binaries08:28
darkxstits only like 50KB or so08:28
seb128and not change the behaviour ?08:28
darkxstit will not run on !GNOME08:29
darkxstbut we need to link to the lib, to be even able to build it08:29
seb128k, that's fine08:30
seb128well, we need somebody wanting to maintain tracker actively/provide support for it08:30
seb128if it's in main08:30
seb128which our desktop team doesn't want to do08:31
seb128but I guess that's a question for the MIR review08:31
didrocksseb128: on the MIR, the ubuntu gnome seems to commit to do that08:31
didrocksteam*08:31
didrocksI would still like a security review from jdstrand08:31
seb128ok, good08:31
seb128yeah, that wouldn't be too much08:31
didrocksbut I need first to do a first pass08:31
seb128Laney, did you start looking at the unity8 iso ?08:36
seb128Laney, I'm going to create a blueprint now, then start looking at the seed (let me know if you had a start on it so I don't dup work ;-)08:36
Laneyseb128: not the seed, I'm trying to build an unchanged ubuntu iso to start08:37
seb128ok, good08:37
seb128I'm going to start on the blueprint/list of packages then08:37
Sweetsharkmoin!08:50
Sweetsharkseb128: sooo, whats the suggessted version for the fixed precise SRU? 1:3.5.7-0ubuntu7? or maybe 1:3.5.7-0ubuntu6.1?08:51
seb128Sweetshark, either works, just made sure it's not a version that was used in other series08:52
Sweetsharkseb128: and a/ should it have a new changelog entry or a modified existing one? b/ if new changelog, the -v for dpkg-genchanges should be the last version in precise (not the last version in precise-proposed) thus having two versions in the changes file, right?08:55
Sweetshark(as for other versions/series: we dont even have anything as ancient as 1:3.5.7-xxx in any other series at all)08:56
seb128Sweetshark, b/ and yes, -v1:3.5.7-0ubuntu5 (or whatever is the current precise-updates version)08:57
seb128e.g the .changes should include both uploads08:57
Sweetsharkseb128: thanks.08:57
seb128yw!08:57
Sweetsharkseb128: FWIW, Ill write a short postmortem mail still on why this happened and how we might prevent it the future (hopefully still today)08:59
seb128Sweetshark, ok09:02
seb128Sweetshark, didn't you get a non virtual ppa with armhf builders? could we have test build it there?09:02
ochosiseb128: quick question, anything else to do for https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316509 ? (btw, just saw on errors.ubuntu.com that the related bug is #5 in the overall list for 14.04...)09:12
Laneyokay ubuntu-defaults-image produces a working iso09:14
LaneyI wonder what that was doing differently to me ...09:14
seb128ochosi, no, I'm going to sponsor that today, sorry for the delay, yesterday was an holiday here09:19
seb128Laney, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1410-unity8-desktop-iso btw (you probably saw it through email, subscribed you)09:19
Laneyyep, thanks09:19
LaneyI'll take a couple of the items09:20
seb128thanks, I was unsure how to split them, those are just a few random one to get something on the list09:20
seb128so feel free to regroup/tweak/add some other ones09:21
Laneyyeah i'm sure more will come up09:22
Sweetsharkseb128: yes, thatwould be one conclusion in the post-mortem. I didnt use the PPA yet, as we wanted to make the builder able to produce binaries that we could dump into the archive without rebuilding again and that needed a specific setup.09:27
Sweetshark(actually two setups and PPAs IIRC, one for ubuntu+1 uploads and one for SRUs)09:28
seb128Sweetshark, right, without that you could still use the ppa for test builds09:28
Sweetsharkseb128: yep09:28
seb128but even better if that could be used for security updates/SRUs09:28
ochosiseb128: sure, no worries! thanks for the sponsoring!09:34
seb128yw!09:36
darkxstseb128, Laney, so what can happen with g-s-d/g-c-c can they be added to ubuntu-gnome packageset while still in main? or should I just apply for ubuntu-desktop?09:52
seb128darkxst, I'm fine having them added to the ubuntu-gnome packageset, we might want to move the schemas/shared-data to be built from the unity variants instead, that might let us demote g-s-d09:59
LaneyI think it's best to move them there, as when we finally fix the sets to be generated again they'll require an exception at that point10:07
Laneyhttp://people.canonical.com/~laney/random-scripts/build-ubuntu-iso10:24
Laneythat works to build an unchanged iso10:24
Laneyshould be able to add a new project to livecd-rootfs (auto/config) to test this new stuff iiuc10:24
seb128Laney, is that a new script?10:26
seb128don't we have standard tools/documented workflow to build isos?10:26
Laneyit's not very easy10:27
seb128:-(10:28
Laneysome of that was nicked from ubuntu-defaults-builder though, which was useful10:28
seb128I tried once with ubuntu-defaults-builder when Kylin started10:28
seb128that worked fine10:28
seb128but cjwatson helped them to use the standard infra/seeds later on10:28
Laneythey still don't use seeds10:28
seb128they don't use ubuntu-defaults-builder anymore afaik?10:29
seb128I didn't follow the details10:29
Laneysure do10:29
seb128k, I had the impression Colin made them do things differently10:29
Laneyit's why they have all those hacks to remove packages and stuff10:29
seb128but I didn't follow, so maybe I got the wrong impression10:29
Laneybecause they aren't using proper seeds yet10:29
Laneythat is the goal though10:29
seb128crazyness10:29
seb128building an iso should be easier :/10:30
Laneyfor most people ubuntu-defaults-builder should be quite easy10:34
Laneywe want to be able to test a new project though10:34
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darkxstseb128, why not just split the schemas? I am a little concerned about having all these redundant keys, in g-s-d11:01
darkxstbasically people google problem (it say to set some key with dconf-editor) but that is an old key that does nothing in GNOME11:05
darkxstand its only going to get worse as cycles progress11:06
darkxstg-c-c shared data makes sense though since that stuff doesnt really change11:07
darkxst(atleast until gnome decide to dump it all into a gresource, although that probablty won't happen for icons etc)11:11
Laneyhttp://ubuntuone.com/6tnvx5bt6IuhIG8DNFq4X011:14
seb128Laney, what remix are you doing? ;-)11:20
seb128darkxst, split the schemas how?11:20
darkxstseb128, fork them11:21
Laneyheh11:21
seb128like have a new source?11:21
LaneyI made a version which doesn't install ubuntu-desktop11:21
seb128or like change the keys for Unity?11:21
Laneythat's what you get11:21
seb128k11:21
darkxstyes rename 3.8 keys for unity11:21
seb128that would require to migrate datas11:22
seb128do you suggest doing that for all keys?11:22
seb128or just the ones GNOME drops?11:22
darkxstseb128, just brainstorming here really, I really certain what is best11:23
darkxstprobably most of the keys dropped in 3.12, could also be dropped in u-s-d11:23
darkxstbut things like the changes in 3.10 are quite disruptive for u-s-d11:24
seb128ideally upstream would treat gsettings schemas as an abi11:24
seb128e.g don't do incompatible changes11:24
seb128especially that gsettings abort on missing keus11:24
seb128keys11:24
darkxstseb128, would be even better if the world didnt crash for a missing key!11:26
seb128indeed11:26
rickspencer3good morning desktoppers11:52
rickspencer3o/ seb128 are you back today?11:52
seb128rickspencer3, hey11:52
seb128rickspencer3, yes, only the 8th was an holiday11:52
rickspencer3welcome back :)11:53
seb128thanks, you too ;-)11:53
seb128(you were off 2 days, then it was off for us, little overlap this week)11:53
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Laneyseb128: I made ppa:~ubuntu-desktop/unity8-flavour to put packages in for making test images13:24
Laneywill update the iso script to add that13:24
seb128Laney, ok, great13:25
seb128Laney, I've a list of packages but I'm not sure what we want to do13:25
seb128do we want a proper seed?13:25
Laneythink so13:25
seb128or start with the Kylin style13:25
seb128like adding packages to install/remove13:25
LaneyI think we've learned that that doesn't work very well for flavours13:25
seb128Laney, so you use http://people.canonical.com/~laney/random-scripts/build-ubuntu-iso to build an iso? how do you provide it the seed/packages to install/...?13:28
Laney+ seeds would be closer to what touch does already13:28
Laneythat builds just an unmodified Ubuntu iso at the minute13:28
Laneyyou modify auto/config which comes from livecd-rootfs to add a new PROJECT13:29
Laneywhich then says what to install13:29
Laneyso we'll add a new project type in there that installs the new task/metapackage13:30
seb128k13:31
* seb128 gets livecd-rootfs to have a look13:31
Laneyxnox: do you know how the ubuntu-live task works?13:32
Laneyhttp://ubuntuone.com/6tnvx5bt6IuhIG8DNFq4X0 shows that it doesn't really install enough packages on its own13:32
xnoxCould not access backend storage13:33
Laneyf513:34
xnoxLaney: that looks like a reasonable default ubiquity look, if like a desktop is missing.13:35
xnox=)13:35
xnoxLaney: are you expecting ubuntu-settings-daemon or gnome-settings-daemon & e.g. light-themes installed?13:36
Laneyyeah I'm wondering if it should install a theme and icons or not13:36
xnoxLaney: i think you do want ubuntu-font installed & that set.13:36
xnoxLaney: look at ubiquity-dm and i'm happy to tweak it to make ubiquity look better in this strip down environment.13:37
Laneymy question is is that the responsibility of the flavour or should the ubuntu-live task do it13:37
Laneyi'm not massively interested in supporting the bare bones thing :P13:37
seb128./build-ubuntu-iso: 65: ./build-ubuntu-iso: PROJECT=ubuntu: not found13:38
seb128hum13:38
xnoxhm, a bit of both. e.g. one needs to explicitly seeds things "e.g. unity-settings-daemon" and ubiquity-dm has been tweaked to take advantage of whats's available in the "live session"13:38
xnoxso we try to mimic "live session" as much as possible.... but if there is no live-session to mimic, one needs to seed things to trick ubiquity-dm expectations.13:39
xnoxit's just you want to be seeded, in a way that gets auto-removed on the installed system.13:39
xnoxsimilar to how e.g. btrfs-tools is seeded.13:40
Laneythat's fine13:40
xnoxi looks like you do have a gnome/unity-settings-daemon running13:40
xnoxsince solid blue is the default background color.13:40
xnoxand ubiquity does nothing to that, so a package which sets default background schema key / override is missing.13:41
xnoxditto, indicators are present -> their icon theme clearly isn't, and/or settings keys to pick the right default theme.13:42
charlesmpt, wrt, bug 1196059, sure13:42
mptthanks13:42
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seb128Laney, that script is supposed to be run into a livecd-rootfs tree or something?13:46
Laneyseb128: no, a clean directory13:46
seb128Laney," build-ubuntu-iso: PROJECT=ubuntu: not found"13:46
seb128doh13:46
Laneythat sounds like a syntax error though13:47
Laneybut it works for me13:47
seb128I guess I need to install livecd-rootfs13:47
Laneyyep13:47
Laneyi put a list at the top13:47
seb128oh, DOH13:47
seb128I though that was a list of stuff the script was installing :p13:47
seb128thanks ;-)13:47
Laneythat list might not be complete13:47
Laneylike if I had some stuff already installed13:48
seb128I've all those installed13:48
Laneyhow are you running it?13:48
LaneyI dunno why you'd get an error but not me13:49
seb128$ sudo ./build-ubuntu-iso13:49
seb128but l65 is13:49
seb128$SUDO PROJECT=$PROJECT ARCH=$ARCH lb build13:49
seb128I fail to see a command there?13:49
seb128ignore that13:50
seb128works without sudo13:51
Laneyinteresting13:52
seb128hum13:56
seb128"chroot: failed to run command '/usr/bin/env': No such file or directory13:56
seb128"13:56
LaneyI got that once, think it went away when I started again from a clean directory13:58
seb128k13:58
* seb128 tries that13:58
seb128Laney, bah, "build/chroot/test-dev-null: Permission denied"14:18
seb128I keep hitting that14:18
seb128and it bails out with14:18
seb128"chroot: failed to run command '/usr/bin/env': No such file or directory"14:18
seb128displayed14:18
Laneywtf14:18
LaneyI never saw that one14:19
seb128do you run it under sudo ?14:19
Laneynot directly14:19
seb128or let the wrapper do the sudo ?14:19
seb128let me try that14:19
LaneyI just ./file14:19
didrocksno cookie for mterry! backup are failing again14:26
mterrydidrocks, uh oh14:27
didrocksmterry: actually, I wonder if it's not rather the check (which isn't done after each backup) fails?14:27
mterrydidrocks, very possible14:27
didrocksmterry: telling me I have no ~/.cache/deja-dup/metadata file in my backup… Which is true, I don't have any in my ~14:27
didrocksmterry: I ignore ~/.cache, but I guess that's fine? (maybe the default?)14:28
mterrydidrocks, so that is a canary-in-the-goldmine file14:29
mterrydidrocks, deja-dup inserts that into every backup14:29
mterrydidrocks, and when verifying, tries to recover that file14:29
mterrydidrocks, looks like it had a problem14:29
didrocks:(14:29
mterrydidrocks, and yeah, DD ignores ~/.cache by default14:29
didrocksok, it wasn't me adding that up14:30
mterrydidrocks, is that all the info it gives?  Ideally we'd tell you the error that happened14:30
didrocksso, it's really that the backup is failing maybe14:30
mterrydidrocks, well.  Backup is apparently completing fine.  But looks like your files may not be as recoverable as we think14:30
didrocksmterry: if I translate the GUI error in english, it's roughly "can't restore "/home/didrocks/.cache/deja-dup/metadata": the file isn't in the backup"14:31
mterrydidrocks, that should be nicer  :-/14:31
didrocksmterry: I grepped your code for any "I hate didrocks" or anything… but it seems you obfuscated it :p14:32
didrocksmterry: any log files I can look at?14:32
mterrydidrocks, no, but you could run DD like "DEJA_DUP_DEBUG=1 deja-dup --backup" and get all sorts of logging14:32
didrocksmterry: ok, doing14:33
mterrydidrocks, thanks!14:33
didrocksmterry: thanks to you! hoping I'll get enough debug infos :)14:33
didrocksinfo*14:33
* didrocks even runs with LANG=C14:33
didrocks"all sorts of loggin" -> it's quite accurate :p14:34
Laneyok cool it booted into unity814:41
Laneynot that it works in any way well in a vm14:42
Laneyoh that's a bit better14:42
seb128it should work in a vm14:43
seb128well llvmpipe, it might be slow and stuff14:43
Laneyhttp://ubuntuone.com/3xvHfv1njOAPBcFCIQpRF114:43
seb128or do you mean unity8 on Mir?14:43
LaneyI had to change the driver14:43
Laneynah, this is x1114:43
seb128k14:43
seb128makes sense14:43
seb128I'm not sure you can use Mir in a vm14:43
LaneyI didn't dare try that first14:44
* Laney updates the online script copy14:44
Laneyoh let me fix the sudo thing first14:44
seb128did you figure out what is wrong?14:45
seb128the variable is empty14:45
seb128that should be like it was not there?14:45
Laneyit's just some shell scripting problem14:45
Laneybut no, not yet14:45
seb128k14:45
seb128well if you figure it out, let me know14:45
seb128I'm curious to know what's wrong14:45
seb128I tried to figure it out, but that just escape my shell knowledge14:45
Laneyyeah I would have expected that to work14:47
seb128Laney, ok, good news is that after starting fresh (wget the script again, new directory) I don't get the env error anymore, not sure what changed though14:49
didrocksmterry: it didn't complain (apart from some files it couldnt' back up)14:49
LaneyIt seems to be a bit picky if something goes wrong in a run14:49
Laneylike clean doesn't clean back to a working state then14:49
seb128yeah14:49
didrocksmterry: does it try everytime to do this restore "metadata" file?14:49
mterrydidrocks, yeah, if memory serves14:50
didrocksmterry: weird then… so I can at least reproduce the flakyness of sometimes it's backing up successfully, sometimes not…14:51
mterryhrm14:51
Laneyseb128: bah I don't know, I can't find an answer so I'll work around by using 'env' in the empty case15:04
seb128Laney, maybe try asking on #ubuntu-devel, we have some shell script gurus in there15:05
LaneyI asked on the twittersphere15:05
seb128has twitter proved efficient for those sort of things? ;-)15:06
Laneysome nerds follow me :P15:06
seb128hehe15:06
Laneyok there's a new version which adds the ppa15:08
Laneyand changes the flavour, so you'll need the new livecd-rootfs, coming in 5 minutes15:08
seb128ok15:08
Laneythere15:19
Laneyremember you need that on the host15:19
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seb128right15:24
seb128Sweetshark, not sure if you saw, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1219245 is ranked high on e.u.c for trusty (n°6 on the daily report)15:28
seb128(what happened to the bot?)15:29
xnoxseb128: annual leave =)15:35
Laneyfrench bot15:36
didrocksroh15:38
seb128heh, friday trolling!15:38
Laney;)15:39
mvo_seb128: if the control center complains that it can not find a plugin for provider ubuntuone, am I misisng a package? or is utopic broken currently?15:52
seb128mvo_, that never worked, use the ubuntuone-control-panel-qt on desktop15:53
seb128mvo_, that's bug #128764015:54
seb128https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center-signon/+bug/128764015:55
mvo_seb128: thanks15:58
seb128yw15:59
seb128mvo_, if that's for the touch stack, you can also use ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts to configure it15:59
mvo_seb128: hm, u1-control-panel-qt is not available in utopic16:03
mvo_seb128: I'm on unity8 desktop16:03
seb128mvo_, install ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts16:04
seb128use settings -> accounts16:04
mvo_seb128: hm, now I have a focus proble16:05
kenvandineseb128, can you please NEW the i386 binary for libphonenumber?16:07
* kenvandine is glad to have that one behind him16:07
seb128kenvandine, looking16:08
andyrockseb128, hey16:09
andyrockseb128, how can we do that? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1281058/comments/2116:09
andyrockjust the first point16:09
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* xnox ponders what is the Chinese word for "scopes" =)16:11
seb128andyrock, I can do it for you if you give me a branch16:11
seb128andyrock, it's basically "build an updated pot, upload it through https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/unity/+pots/unity/+upload"16:12
ogra_xnox, oh, did you get spam as well ?16:12
* ogra_ noticed that too16:12
andyrockseb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~andyrock/unity/lp-1281058/+merge/21533116:13
xnoxogra_: yeah, didn't see travel approval code in that mail however =)16:14
ogra_lol16:14
Laneyheh16:15
Laney"15.30 am"16:15
ogra_thats early :P16:16
seb128andyrock, is that design approved, the strings are not going to change?16:18
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andyrockJohnLea, around?16:27
andyrockseb128, let's ask to John16:27
rsalvetiseb128: need to upload http://paste.ubuntu.com/7422235/, how do you want me to proceed?16:31
rsalvetiseb128: doing a silo and such?16:31
seb128rsalveti, doesn't seem necessary, feel free to upload/commit directly to trunk16:32
seb128rsalveti, thanks for checking first btw ;-)16:32
rsalvetiseb128: sure, np, thanks16:32
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andyrockseb128, i sent an email to john16:45
andyrocklet's wait for the answer16:45
seb128andyrock, k16:49
Laneyhappy weekend everyone!17:19
seb128Laney, thanks, you too!17:20
* Laney hugs jasoncwarner 17:20
Laneybest of luck!17:20
jasoncwarnerthanks Laney :) same back!17:21
mvo_jasoncwarner: hey, best of luck and happy weekend19:19
* mvo_ waves and vanishes19:19
kenvandinejasoncwarner, oh my... clock is ticking on your last day!19:42
jasoncwarnerThanks mvo! And kenvandine  yeah. But I'll still hangout here so I can pester people with my pet bugs ;)19:50
kenvandinehehe19:50
kenvandinejasoncwarner, can't believe your leaving, we'll miss you19:51
kenvandineand the steak!19:51
jasoncwarnerkenvandine: mostly the steak ;) but yeah, same goes here!!!19:53
kenvandinenah... the steak was just a perk19:53
kenvandine:)19:53
jasoncwarnerkenvandine:  :)19:55
kenvandinebut i'll be sure to tell bfiller the bar you set, he'll have to try to live up to the steak houses :)19:56
kenvandinejasoncwarner, did i tell you went went to that greek place in orlando in feb?  there was some table dancing :)19:56
jasoncwarnerkenvandine: no! Who was it this time ?19:59
kenvandineall the teams that went on the sprint20:00
kenvandinei think about 40 of us...20:00
kenvandineand i'm pretty sure everyone ended up on the table at some point :)20:00
jasoncwarnerNice20:01
kenvandinefun place, great place to get to know a new manager :)20:01
jasoncwarnerkenvandine: new person better get that in interview process ;)20:06
jasoncwarnerGood social question for them ;)20:06
Sweetsharkjasoncwarner: so where is the pet bug vs. steak exchange rate right now?20:08
dobeyhah20:12
dobeyi don't think i ever actually went to Opa! in orlando20:12
kenvandinedobey, fun place20:13
dobeyyeah, i saw20:14
dobeyi liked Cuba Libre much more though ;)20:15
dobeybut hard to compete with a menu of like 100 different rums20:16
kenvandineyum... rum20:16
kenvandinedobey, which week are you going to be in malta?20:16
dobeykenvandine: 2nd20:16
kenvandinebummer... i haven't hung out with you in ages20:17
dobeyyeah20:17
dobeykenvandine: when are you going to williamsburg? :P20:18
kenvandinehaha20:18
kenvandinehopefully not until halloween :)20:18
kenvandineto scare the kids again at busch gardens20:19
dobeyheh20:21
jasoncwarnerSweetshark: for some bugs, I'd gladly exchange steak for fix-committed ;)20:41
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