| one | What is the most direct way to obtain the source corresponding to the currently running Ubuntu generic kernel? | 07:21 |
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| one | apt-get is pulling linux-meta and the results are a newerr version that doesn't support the same crypto | 07:21 |
| one | Hi | 07:28 |
| apw | one (N,BFTL), the easiest is probabally to look at the tags in the git repositories at kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-<series>.git | 08:19 |
| one | Hi | 09:18 |
| one | WHat is the most direct way to obtain the kernel source? | 09:19 |
| one | For a spcific version. Matching what is currently run on the system used. | 09:20 |
| apw | one, the easiest is probabally to look at the tags in the git repositories at kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-<series>.git | 09:28 |
| apw | one, or pull-lp-source -d linux <version> | 09:28 |
| one | apw: looking at the versions | 09:34 |
| one | what are 'tags' I do not want to do any more 'cooldude; lingo | 09:34 |
| one | The version closest to the kern I am looking for just contains a 'metasource' package in place of where the sourcecode is usually located | 09:35 |
| lag | apw: Hola | 09:35 |
| lag | apw: A friend of mine is complaining that the Ubuntu repos are pretty slow - are there alternatives? | 09:36 |
| amitk | lag: mirrors? | 09:37 |
| lag | amitk: Looking here now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors | 09:37 |
| lag | amitk: Now here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors | 09:38 |
| one | Why is the sourcecode hidden? | 09:40 |
| amitk | lag: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line | 09:40 |
| amitk | lag: though the installer should select the best mirror | 09:41 |
| lag | amitk: "It's coming down faster now" :) | 09:42 |
| amitk | heh | 09:42 |
| one | Why is the sourcecode hidden? | 09:43 |
| amitk | one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode | 09:45 |
| apw | one the source code is not hidden, it is either in our git repo or in the source package for the linux-image-* package that contains your kernels | 09:49 |
| apw | one, i assume you are looking at the meta-package package such as "linux-image-generic" which comes from a different source, and is part of the mechanism which lets you have a "current" and "previous" kernels | 09:51 |
| apw | a very special feature of the kernel packages | 09:52 |
| apw | as amitk says that wiki page has all the details on how to obtain it easily | 09:54 |
| one | apw no looking at the git repo | 09:56 |
| one | apw no, looking at the git repo and the source tree includes linux-meta that just has a few text files | 09:57 |
| one | apw: Where is the actual sourcecode? | 09:57 |
| apw | in the right git repo | 09:57 |
| apw | which release are you on | 09:57 |
| amitk | one: read the fine manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode | 09:57 |
| apw | ie which kernel version range are you looking for, and i'll find you the right link | 09:58 |
| apw | git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-<release>.git | 09:58 |
| apw | so that one yes? | 09:58 |
| apw | which <release> did you substitute in | 09:58 |
| one | quantal | 09:58 |
| one | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=apw/ubuntu-quantal-meta.git;a=summary | 09:58 |
| one | you | 09:58 |
| apw | no that is substituting in quantal-meta, that is not substituting in quantal | 09:59 |
| apw | and that is something from my directory not from the ubuntu one | 09:59 |
| apw | git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal.git | 09:59 |
| apw | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=summary | 10:00 |
| apw | that one is the gitweb you wanted | 10:00 |
| one | I do not want to install git | 10:00 |
| one | I just want the sourcecode | 10:00 |
| one | not download and install more trash | 10:01 |
| apw | apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) | 10:01 |
| apw | is how to get the source | 10:01 |
| apw | if you arn't using git, as it says on that wiki | 10:01 |
| apw | as it even said first on that wiki | 10:01 |
| one | the https connection doesnt establish | 10:02 |
| one | if the server was accepting http I could have looked | 10:03 |
| apw | that i am unable to help you with | 10:03 |
| one | I do not want to install more trash nor do I want to be forced to use a bunch of tracking codes | 10:03 |
| apw | apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) | 10:03 |
| apw | will do what you want then, it will get you the raw source | 10:04 |
| apw | which is how you get the source of all and any package in debian based systems | 10:04 |
| one | that looks to be downloading the full source previously I had run apt-get source linux-source or something without the uname | 10:04 |
| apw | yep, that gets you the meta package which tracks our releases | 10:05 |
| apw | the kernel is special in that regard, so you can have old kernels for emergencies | 10:05 |
| one | then I downloaded the package for the source from some link that was in the meta package | 10:05 |
| one | and it compiled into a version other than what it was labled as | 10:05 |
| apw | which link was that | 10:07 |
| one | I do not recall at the moment it was a while back but the package is labled 3.5.0 and the result is 3.5.5 | 10:08 |
| apw | that would depend how you build it, if you use the debian rules to build it it will likely come out as 3.5.0-NN style, if you use direct make it might well be 3.5.N | 10:09 |
| one | And it isnt compatible with the crypto running on the current 3.5.0 | 10:09 |
| one | How are the debian rules used to build it? | 10:10 |
| apw | to build the full package you would use dpkg-buildpackage -b which will build it for the build machiens architecture | 10:13 |
| apw | of course you need th | 10:13 |
| apw | the appropriate build infratstructure installed, compilers, kernel-wedge etc etc | 10:13 |
| apw | or one could build it in a PPA | 10:13 |
| one | this looks like some more source not sure if its different from what is in the linux-source-3.5.0 | 10:31 |
| one | they are both 3.5.0 | 10:31 |
| one | also theres a linux-meta-3.5.0 | 10:31 |
| one | this scheeming doesn't make sense | 10:32 |
| one | in that way it is hidden | 10:32 |
| one | without sense it becomes dice | 10:32 |
| one | just guess at a random naming schema | 10:32 |
| one | like cracking a bicycle lock just to figure out what it is possibly named | 10:33 |
| apw | one, apt-get source gets that actual source package which was uploaded to make the binaries you have, so its not random source | 10:36 |
| one | apw are there any other advantages to using dpkg-b... to build other than detecting the architechure not even to the specifics of cpuinfo | 10:37 |
| apw | one, you get a package that is built the same way the archive builds it, it all depends what you are building your kernel for to know whether it matters | 10:37 |
| one | apw: so does it force automation of everything or is there a way to modify the config? | 10:38 |
| apw | the configs are builtin and can be modified | 10:38 |
| one | apw: is it also possible to build something for another machine using the dpkg-build... | 10:42 |
| one | apw: the kernel is being rebuilt to cut out the extras and then add some custom modules | 10:44 |
| one | I am planning on some modules which use interactive crypto | 10:45 |
| apw | dpkg-buildpackage can build for the architectures the build machine supports only | 10:45 |
| apw | unless you use cross-compilers | 10:45 |
| one | well that is where to start, kernel, and start cleaning up this junk | 11:16 |
| one | bunch of junk everywhere on the machine | 11:16 |
| one | any links to a linux compatible braille term | 11:17 |
| one | interactive crypto to check the eyes for trickery | 11:17 |
| one | clean machine | 11:18 |
| one | Iam going to clean up the machine and then use it. | 11:19 |
| one | Can't even be used the popular idea is that folks pay to have machines use them. | 11:19 |
| one | obsurd! | 11:19 |
| one | vanguard robots spying on me | 11:21 |
| one | they play game | 11:21 |
| one | communists | 11:21 |
| one | it seems somewhat surreal | 11:22 |
| one | Did you just open emacs? | 11:22 |
| one | Something just opened emacs | 11:23 |
| one | I know you want me to code. | 11:23 |
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| hallyn | you wanna talk about surreal | 23:05 |
| smb | hallyn, is that the state after too many beers? | 23:16 |
| hallyn | smb: haha, no, i just looking at the backscroll, with 'one' and 'apw' talking to each other | 23:18 |
| hallyn | smb: all i've had is half of rharper's bottle. where are you? | 23:19 |
| hallyn | i've turned qemu-nbd into an orphan and accidentally downloaded an armhf cloud image, i think i can call tonight a success | 23:19 |
| smb | hallyn, In my room but ready to roll any time | 23:19 |
| hallyn | zul hasn't yet shown up on irc | 23:20 |
| hallyn | smb: lobby in 10 misn? | 23:20 |
| smb | sounds like at least some err progress (nbd and arm) | 23:20 |
| smb | hallyn, ack | 23:20 |
| hallyn | smb: woohoo, container with qcow2 backing store working '\o/ | 23:25 |
| smb | yay | 23:27 |
| one | here does dpkg place the kernel after using buildpackage? | 23:55 |
| one | Where does dpkg place the kernel after using buildpackage? | 23:55 |
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