[00:00] <fun> yes works now
[00:00] <fun> was path stuff
[00:03] <fun> :P
[00:28] <sarnold> fun: heh, no, I still haven't tried a smartcard :) you?
[00:28] <fun> well I got reader
[00:28] <fun> now if I can find card locally :D
[00:29] <fun> http://askubuntu.com/questions/111334/login-using-fingerprint-reader
[00:29] <fun> :)
[01:02] <vonsyd0w> i cant figure out why bind won't load my zone files. bind says "zone 10.10.20.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading from master file /etc/zones/10.10.20.in-addr.arpa failed: file not found" but the file is there. anyone know whats going on?
[01:03] <vonsyd0w> that error is from syslog when restarting bind
[01:04] <sarnold> vonsyd0w: any chroot games going on?
[01:05] <vonsyd0w> not that i'm aware of. i just rain aptitude install bind9, so whatever the defaults, thats what im using.
[01:06] <vonsyd0w> no, i didn't setup a chroot. that requires additional steps, and i followed the server guide for bind9.
[01:07] <vonsyd0w> the only additional thing i did was create a separate directory for my zones at /etc/bind/zones.
[01:07] <vonsyd0w> i corrected my name.conf.local file so each zone points to "/etc/bind/zones". The error above says /etc/zones, which was incorrect
[01:08] <sarnold> vonsyd0w: the error message just says /etc/zones/ not /etc/bind/zones -- grep -r /etc/zones /etc/   ? :)
[01:08] <vonsyd0w> sorry about that, i copied an older syslog error
[01:09] <vonsyd0w> im going to try to put the zone files in /etc/bind and see what happens brb
[01:15] <vonsyd0w> i used named-checkzone to check each zone file; each file passed with "OK". I moved the zone files back to /etc/bind with the other default zones that load OK, and I'm still getting the error stated above.
[01:15] <vonsyd0w> I completely wiped "purged" bind9 and its configs and now have done this twice. no luck
[01:15] <vonsyd0w> same exact problem. im not sure what im doing wrong
[01:16] <vonsyd0w> could be permissions? files aren't owned by bind or a member of the bind group
[01:17] <sarnold> vonsyd0w: it should work so long as the bind user has read permission on the files; the error says "file not found", not "permission denied" or "operation not permitted"
[01:18] <vonsyd0w> true OK, I'll keep hunting. pretty determine to get this working
[02:11] <rostam> hi I am using ubuntu 12.04. for some tasks we need to use sudo command. I would like to know whether it is possible to limit usage of sudo to selected command for specific users? thx
[02:12] <sarnold> rostam: 99.99% of the sudoers(5) manpage describes how to make that happen :) the downside is that the sudo configuration language is -very- flexible.
[02:37] <mun24> want to understand process of services in ubuntu
[02:45] <Armadillos> mun24: Like how?
[02:51] <mun24> I want to install ftpd server
[02:51] <mun24> how can I know it is using init.d or xinted
[02:52] <Armadillos> See if there's a file in the /etc/init.d directory for ftp (most likely vsftp, or ftpd)
[02:52] <Armadillos> err... vsftpd
[02:54] <jgee> mun24: remember also that xinet uses inetd.conf as well as its own xinetd.conf and files in xinetd.d
[02:55] <jgee> mun24: I also check /etc/default (some services make it clear in a settings file there whether to run as daemon or under inetd)
[02:56] <mun24> ok
[02:57] <mun24> somehow ftpclient makes the conection and then connection get close. Any idea why
[03:34] <vonsyd0w> wow sarnold, I'm an idiot bind/named was looking for a filed called "10.10.20.in-addr.arpa" when it should of been "db.10.10.20"
[03:34] <vonsyd0w> i fixed it and now have a new error message
[03:35] <vonsyd0w> off to fix that now
[04:56] <sarnold> vonsyd0w: thanks for reporting back :) I always like to find out what it was..
[05:19] <vonsyd0w> sarnold, no problem! I can officially resolve hostnames and caching works! now i need to get dynamic dns working (with a Ubiquiti EdgeMax Router/DHCP) fun!
[05:19] <sarnold> vonsyd0w: oooh, how are those ubiquiti routers? :) I've been wanting an excuse to buy one.
[05:19] <vonsyd0w> $100 and i love it
[05:19] <vonsyd0w> i'm learning so much with it
[05:20] <sarnold> nice :)
[06:49] <eagles0513875> hey all
[06:49] <eagles0513875> lordievader: hey
[06:51] <eagles0513875> hey guys what is the best way to implement a user password policy? would something like LDAP be needed?
[07:47] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:36] <stephank> Well, hope I did this correctly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1317811
[09:39] <rostam> sarnold thx
[09:42] <hxm> hello I have a dedicated server with ubuntu 13.04 and it is deprecated right? I would want to upgrade it but, is it safe?
[09:42] <hxm> will I lose data or configuration files or services?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> hxm safer than running a non-supported server for certain
[09:42] <hxm> what you mean
[09:43] <xnox> hxm: $ do-release-upgrade
[09:43] <cfhowlett> xnox nope.  13.04 is end of life
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|hxm
[09:44] <xnox> cfhowlett: i believe 13.04 is still on master archives, and didn't move to old-releases yet.
[09:44] <ogra_> oh, man ... aptitude ...
[09:44] <hxm> that is the theory, but I want to know the practice, is a production server
[09:44] <ogra_> why is that still in so many docs :(
[09:45] <xnox> hxm: (a) don't use non-lts on production servers (b) over the past year everyone did upgrade to 13.10, and 2/3 of 13.10 users have already upgraded to 14.04
[09:45] <hxm> i started with this when it was already mounted
[09:46] <hxm> i blame the last employee
[09:47] <xnox> hxm: blaming people, is not so good. Test the upgrade on a non-production server you have (if you don't - set up a clone).
[09:47] <xnox> hxm: it's production server, nobody but you knows how critical it is, or what procedures it needs..... if you don't, it's for you to find out and document for future self =)
[09:48] <hxm> im not saying I did it well, I just said I got the trouble by surprise
[09:48] <hxm> cloning the os and trying will be the safest way
[09:51] <nikolam> I started installing Ubuntu Server 14.04  LTS 32-bit in VirtualBox VM 4.3.8 and it started installing and then just display Lilla colored screen and does nothing...
[09:52] <nikolam> also not using much of an CPU, just sits there.
[09:56] <apw> jamespage, yo ... seems that openvswitch is lagging wrt debian, but it is not clear if the bits you did are included ... wonder if you could have a look
[09:58] <hxm> is still posible to upgrade to 13.04 to 13.10 safely and then 14?
[10:12] <DarkStar1> morning guys. I created a user like so : sudo adduser --system --no-create-home playservice but when I try to run a script under that user I get a passwd prompt
[10:12] <DarkStar1> except I thought system users were created without passwords
[12:36] <pmatulis_> morning
[12:39] <DarkStar1> hoowfy
[12:40] <DarkStar1> howdy*
[13:10] <med_> Daviey, happy birthday!
[13:11] <med_> Are you old enough to drink now?  (j/k)
[13:17] <Daviey> med_, hah. Thanks
[16:56] <kaffien> did the rules for bonding nic interfaces  change from  ubuntu server 12.04 and 14.04?  I cannot seem to get LACP working for the life of me
[16:57] <kaffien> also what would cause ubuntu to rename my network interfaces?
[16:58] <sarnold> kaffien: that second issue is the 'biosdevname' package; I believe you can just remove the package and rebuild your initrds
[16:58] <kaffien> it doesn't seem to like my 4 port nic i installed hehe
[16:59] <kaffien> then again im guessing bonding is difficult if you nic keep renaming
[16:59] <kaffien> how can i rebuild my initrd?
[17:00] <sarnold> kaffien: I think that'd be "update-initramfs -u"
[17:01] <kaffien> that is what i just found to.
[17:02] <kaffien> have you any experience with  4 port nic cards?
[17:02] <sarnold> hah, I wish :)
[17:02] <kaffien> The interface for this network card goes like so   p7p1 p7p2 p7p3 etc
[17:02] <kaffien> maybe this will help with the names staying put
[17:02] <kaffien> bonding really isn't that complicated darnit.
[17:03] <sarnold> the idea is to make it easy to see a NIC name on a machine and know where exactly -on- the machine that NIC is -- and have it keep that name no matter if you add more cards or remove cards. the goal seems laudable, but it seems some people wind up with 'renamedX' kinds ofinterface names
[17:03] <kaffien> yep
[17:04] <kaffien> i might just subscribe to ubuntu advantage for this server.
[17:08] <kaffien> ahhhh proper eth addresses
[17:31] <hxm> what is the package name which contains mod_authz_default.so
[17:31] <hxm> or how can I find it trought the package manager
[17:32] <sarnold> hxm: the apt-file package is wonderful for answering those kinds of questions
[17:32] <hxm> ah -bin
[17:32] <ogra_> dpkg -S /path/to/the/file.so
[17:32] <sarnold> hxm: it'd be apt-file search mod_authz_default.so
[17:32] <hxm> thanks
[17:33] <sarnold> (ogra's answer is better if the file is installed; mine will help when the file isn't yet installed)
[17:33] <ogra_> right :)
[17:42] <kaffien> once you have your  /etc/network/interface setup nice for bonding you still need to run   ifenslave bond0  eth2 eth3  etc.   It is now all working. Thanks for your help sarnold!
[17:43] <sarnold> kaffien: ah :) cool! thanks
[17:49] <kaffien> i wish i could control my network though
[17:49] <kaffien> I cannot seem to reset the networks now
[17:50] <sarnold> kaffien: let me guess, you tried service networking restart  and watched your computer hang?
[17:50] <kaffien> ie  /etc/init.d/network restart doesn't work nor does  service network restart.
[17:50] <kaffien> it just doesn't do a damned thing
[17:50] <sarnold> kaffien: the 'right way' is ifup and ifdown
[17:51] <kaffien> ...
[17:51] <sarnold> kaffien: oh, nice, it used to seriously upset upstart or dbus or something. hehe.
[17:51] <kaffien> *twitch*
[17:51] <sarnold> kaffien: so ifup bond0 and ifdown bond0 ..
[17:51] <kaffien> they need to stop screwing with stuff that's been working for the last 10 years.
[17:52] <kaffien> I will attempt that   ifconfig bond0 down basically deleted bond0
[17:52] <kaffien> ie i could not ifconfig bond0 up  as the device was no invalid.
[17:52] <sarnold> ifdown, not ifconfig down ..
[17:52] <kaffien> se previous comment
[17:52] <sarnold> kaffien: no kidding, I swore at a hung desktop more than once as a result of that..
[17:52] <kaffien> I will attempt ifdown next
[17:53] <kaffien> I sure am glad we invested in a second NAS.
[17:57] <kaffien> well that was fun.   ifdown bond0   interface is 'not configured'
[17:58] <sarnold> gah
[18:00] <kaffien> lol for th record it starts up on boot just fine now ... sooo
[18:03] <Baluse> hello
[18:03] <Baluse> when is swap memory used ?
[18:07] <bekks> When all RAM is actively used by applications.