[05:15] <mapps> mornngall
[05:15] <mapps> *morning
[06:11] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:11] <mapps> hey
[06:12] <mapps> check this http://www.binarypilot.co/ ..total nonsense i get that popup like 2x a week lol..
[06:12] <mapps> they sure put some effort into these dumb things..but who the hell falls for it
[06:16] <MooDoo> lots probably
[06:18] <mapps> lol
[06:18] <mapps> its just so stupid
[06:21] <MooDoo> I was watching the news last night about people being duped out of life savings on some website.....sigh
[06:21] <mapps> baffling eh
[06:21] <MooDoo> yeah, I still think education is needed.
[06:22] <mapps> there's that 24year old in court for fraud took millions of money on some ponzi scheme promising big returns lol
[06:22] <mapps> blew 200k in some fancy club in one night..200k of others money
[06:22] <mapps> turned out he worked as a catering assistant nothing to do with finance whatsoever
[06:22] <mapps> but greedy people see 500% return..woah
[06:23] <MooDoo> sigh
[06:28] <jussi>  people are so greedy...
[06:29] <MooDoo> yup
[06:35] <bashrc> http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Strip-Vision-Open-source-650-finalenglish.jpg
[06:38] <MartijnVdS> how true..
[06:38] <MartijnVdS> except the top pic is a bit like the company I work at (which releases the software under EUPL)
[06:39] <bashrc> yes its also like the company I'm working at
[06:43] <MartijnVdS> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/four-weeks-on-huge-swaths-of-the-internet-remain-vulnerable-to-heartbleed/
[07:06] <MartijnVdS>  http://www.estofex.org/cgi-bin/polygon/showforecast.cgi?text=yes&fcstfile=2014051006_201405082031_1_stormforecast.xml
[07:29] <popey> morning all
[07:29] <popey> MooDoo: http://ubuntu.technology what's that 1.888 phone number at the top?
[07:32] <MooDoo> popey: oh that shouldn't be there, thanks i'll get it removed.
[07:32] <popey> k
[07:37] <MooDoo> popey: should of gone now, sorry about that
[07:46] <popey> cool
[07:47] <Myrtti> popey: eh: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140507/04102327144/us-patent-office-grants-photography-against-white-background-patent-to-amazon.shtml
[07:47] <nigelb> what.
[07:55] <popey> Myrtti: heh ☻
[08:00] <MooDoo> omg how stupid
[08:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Lost Sock Memorial Day! :-D
[08:03] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: There's a special day for everything...
[08:03] <nigelb> Tomorrow should be the day for celebrating all special days.
[08:04] <JamesTait> MartijnVdS, I think it follows on from yesterday's No Socks Day. ;)
[08:04] <MartijnVdS> nigelb: so meta :)
[08:04] <JamesTait> nigelb, I like it!
[08:04] <nigelb> :D
[08:05] <nigelb> MartijnVdS: So, it'll be called Meta Day?
[08:06] <MartijnVdS> nigelb: probably
[08:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> Myrtti: the USPTO are a complete bunch of numpties. It would appear you can patent *anything* in the US.
[08:09] <Myrtti> indeed
[08:10] <MooDoo> so my friend who works at the concert hall here in nottingham has to explain to a patron who was waiting by the stage door that elvis was in fact deceased so there is no point in waiting for an autograph!
[08:11] <TwistedLucidity> MooDoo: Whut?
[08:11] <MooDoo> TwistedLucidity: yeah exactly
[08:11] <TwistedLucidity> MooDoo: Elvis isn't dead, he just went home.
[08:11] <popey> Uh-huh.
[08:12] <MooDoo> lol
[08:12] <nigelb> TwistedLucidity++
[08:12] <nigelb> MIB ♥
[08:22] <dwatkins> To live with E.T. ?
[08:27] <Laney> 15MB/s downloading an ubuntu iso
[08:27] <Laney> did I get upgraded without knowing it?!
[08:28] <Laney> hmm maybe I did know about it but just forgot
[08:28] <Laney> 120 rings a bell
[08:30] <ujjain2> Does the bank hvae to know your NI number?\
[08:30] <ujjain2> Does the bank hvae to know your NI number?
[08:30] <mapps> no
[08:30] <mapps> odd question to ask though
[08:31] <mapps> but , no..i signed up for a new barclays current ac few weeks back and they never asked
[08:43] <diddledan_> http://gaspull.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/wonder1.jpg
[08:43] <diddledan_> yup
[08:43] <diddledan_> thor3 ftw
[08:50] <ali1234> *horse-ninja ftw
[08:50] <diddledan_> wtf?
[08:59] <dwatkins> Thor 4, the next generation... http://i.imgur.com/4sNxI3T.jpg
[09:04] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:05] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[09:05] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:29] <foobarry> could a defective pixel on a screen been caused by phyiscal shock?
[09:30] <foobarry> i.e. if the laptop was dropped upon delivery
[09:30] <ali1234> theoretically, sure
[09:30] <ali1234> it is incredibly unlikely though
[09:30] <ali1234> they are usually caused during the manufacturing process
[09:31] <foobarry> the laptop was dropped on delivery
[09:31] <foobarry> that fact is establshed
[09:32] <ali1234> physical damage is more likely to kill an entire row or column of pixels
[09:37] <MooDoo> hmmm it could of caused the damaage, you just don't know
[09:44] <foobarry> can iptables use -m multiport -p tcp --dport 443,22 -p udp --dport 123,161 -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request all on oneline?
[09:47] <MartijnVdS> I don't think you can do UDP + TCP on line line like that
[10:00] <awilkins> foobarry, Probably not... dead pixels usually a manufacturing defect
[10:01] <awilkins> foobarry, Sometimes you can massage them back into life
[10:02] <awilkins> I've been really lucky with them I think, I've got 1 on all the screens I use, and that's a crappy old Dell 1280x1024  4:3 corporate dronebox screen
[10:02] <awilkins> Have had a whole screen die though
[10:02] <foobarry> i got a werid streak of dead ones appear one week before my 3yr warrany came up
[10:03] <foobarry> got a new screen and hinge \o/
[10:03] <awilkins> Not buying Viewsonic again
[10:03] <awilkins> It was nothing but trouble
[10:04] <awilkins> Had to have it replaced under warranty (twice, I think) because the EDID kept blanking out so nothing would drive it at the right resolution
[10:04] <MartijnVdS> I only buy Dell screens
[10:04] <awilkins> And then it just gave up the ghost
[10:04] <awilkins> I used to swear by Iiyama
[10:05] <foobarry> we've had 100s of dell screens in our workplace, very good lifetime
[10:05] <awilkins> But I think that's a CRT-centric opinion and I don't think it necessarily holds true for LCD panels
[10:05] <awilkins> I have an Asus for my primary panel now, one of the fancy 3D enabled beaties
[10:05] <awilkins> beasties
[10:06] <awilkins> 1920x1080 is nice, but I still miss screens with 1200 or more vertical pixels
[10:07] <awilkins> I had a 1600x1200 15" panel on my laptop .... 15 years ago
[10:07] <awilkins> Stupid TV industry
[10:07] <awilkins> At least the 4k revolution will be good for something
[10:08] <awilkins> Catching up to where we should have been a decade ago... GERROFF MY LAWN
[10:10] <foobarry> my sister offered me her old lcd tv
[10:10] <foobarry> might actually get a tv with a modern socket
[10:27] <foobarry> now what to buy to go with it...chromecast? rasp pi?
[10:28] <Myrtti> if you consider rasp pi as a complete computer, I'd recommend chromecast for pure tv usage
[10:29] <Myrtti> I find it easier to search stuff on my mobile and casting them to the tv rather than whipping out the keyboard and doing the Youtube/Plex search on the mac mini we've got hooked up
[10:30] <Myrtti> obviously YMMV
[10:30] <foobarry> thats helpful
[10:30] <foobarry> what can you cast?
[10:30] <foobarry> iplayer, youtube, browser?
[10:30] <Myrtti> plex, youtube, bbc iplayer is what we use
[10:30] <foobarry> mainly for vid content?
[10:30] <Myrtti> yeah. Music too if you've got stuff in Google Play Music
[10:30] <foobarry> i do
[10:31] <Myrtti> oh, and Doggcatcher. It's not brilliant yet but it's sufficient
[10:32] <Myrtti> netflix if we had it, BT sport if we were interested enough to have it
[10:33] <Myrtti> Google Movies/TV is fairly reasonably priced
[10:41] <jussi> there are plugins for the browser for just about any web video, aside fom flash
[10:42] <jussi> foobarry: ^^
[10:43] <jussi> and if you have media on your device, there are many progams that support castign ofr normal media playback
[10:48] <foobarry> GPU lockups make foobarry sad
[10:48] <foobarry> nouveau meh
[10:51] <foobarry> my wife buys dvds
[10:51] <foobarry> i'm sure its cheaper to stream since she rarely watches more than once
[10:52] <foobarry> actually she watches it on her own
[10:52] <foobarry> then we watch it together a little time later :S
[10:52] <foobarry> if its not a chick flick
[10:55] <jussi> foobarry: just admit it, you watch the chickflicks together
[10:56] <foobarry> nevr!
[10:57] <foobarry> she wouldn't enjoy it if i was there
[11:00] <popey> can't remember the last dvd I bought
[11:04] <foobarry> the hobbit pt2
[11:04] <foobarry> before that, was gravity
[11:05] <foobarry> we lent it to parents in law etc too
[11:24] <popey> there's a hobbit pt 2?
[11:25] <popey> I liked gravity, watched that twice
[11:25] <Myrtti> sure, and there'll be pt 3
[11:25] <davmor2> popey: there are going to be 3 parts to the hobbit by the look of it
[11:31] <jussi> I note netflix still doesnt have shawshank redemption :P
[11:32] <popey> jussi: uk has it
[11:32] <jussi> crap, netflix price just went up...
[11:33] <popey> not for me for 2 years ☻
[11:33] <jussi> yeah yeah
[11:38] <MartijnVdS> early adopter bonus
[11:38] <MartijnVdS> Mine is going up in 2 years as well
[11:38] <jussi> I have to make a decision whether I use it enough to keep it...
[11:38] <jussi> Im still in my trial...
[11:41] <MooDoo> jussi: i signed up the other day then my kids discovered it
[11:45] <popey> my whole family use it
[11:45] <popey> chromecast, iphone, android...
[11:46] <jussi> I just dont actually watch that much tele...
[11:51] <awilkins> Watch Netflix more than broadcast TV now
[11:51] <awilkins> And I have a MythTV box so my TV watching pattern was pretty much on-demand anyway
[11:52] <awilkins> CAn't even be bothered to check the broadcast schedule for things to record now
[11:52] <awilkins> Things that I had scheduled already get the occasional watching binge
[11:56] <popey> I watch a fair amount of netflix and youtube, and a bit of recorded telly - The Daily Show
[12:12] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[12:43] <foobarry> amazon won't let me buy an mp3 album unless i setup one click
[12:43] <foobarry> thats new.
[12:45] <foobarry> ugh. have to add to mp3 basket
[12:45] <foobarry> weird
[12:48] <TwistedLucidity> Buy elsewhere?
[12:48] <TwistedLucidity> Or buy CD and rip at home
[12:48] <foobarry> at £2.99 for the album?
[12:48] <foobarry> or 9.99 for cd
[12:51] <TwistedLucidity> play.com used to be able to beat Amazon on many thing, not sure if that's still true.
[12:51] <foobarry> this is why hmv died
[12:51] <TwistedLucidity> And there's awlays iTunes. :-)
[12:51] <foobarry> play.com is no longer real
[12:51] <foobarry> itunes is not viable
[12:51] <TwistedLucidity> I knew it had changed
[12:51] <foobarry> its play.google or amazons
[12:51] <TwistedLucidity> Hmmm....smell the freedom!
[12:52] <awilkins> Yeah, I still check the CD prices because i) they are often cheaper ii) you get a hardcopy that isn't compressed
[12:52] <foobarry> freedom comes at a cost
[12:52] <foobarry> everyone has a price
[12:52] <awilkins> play.com is fubar since they ditched the Jersey loophole
[12:55] <davmor2> foobarry: 7 digital
[12:57] <awilkins> I really liked AllOfMp3.com
[12:58] <awilkins> Ok, they were the Russian Mafia
[12:58] <awilkins> But they gave a good service
[13:00] <TwistedLucidity> And with a CD you sometimes get a free gift (a rootkit :-S)
[13:00] <MartijnVdS> TwistedLucidity: some CDs come with bonus material to download
[13:01] <shauno> hah, yeah - the russian mafia weren't all that bad
[13:09] <awilkins> Only get a rootkit if you stick it in a Winders box
[13:14] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: For now, yes. I wouldn't put it past someone to try again. Why Sony was never punished escapes me.
[13:19] <dvrr> hi.......  everyone
[13:48] <foobarry> can someone remind me again pls...
[13:48] <foobarry> subject alternate name..
[13:48] <foobarry> hostname is blah-01.meh and the apache site is monkey.com
[13:49] <foobarry> which one is the commonName? and which is the alt_name?
[13:51] <directhex> generally cn=hostname and altname is DNS:websiteonthisserver,DNS:anotherwebsiteonthisserver
[13:51] <foobarry> somebody with 2 votes says "The general rules for this: CN - put here your main URL (for compatiblity) SAN - put all your domain here, repeat the CN because its not in right place there, but its used for that..."
[13:52] <foobarry> i'll go with directhex recommended config
[13:52] <foobarry> ta
[13:53] <directhex> apache expects cn=hostname
[13:53] <directhex> it'll throw a warning (not an error) otherwise
[13:53] <foobarry> that would be bad
[13:54] <popey> item.ebay.com/291125433026
[13:54] <popey> new ffos phone
[14:01]  * bigcalm strokes his pretty new SGS5
[14:06]  * popey strokes his old ffos phone
[14:07] <dwatkins> popey: do you still have that picture of your cat sitting on your decoy keyboard, by any chance?
[14:07] <popey> decoy?
[14:07] <dwatkins> I seem to remember you had a second keyboard for the cat to sit on because it would always sit on your keyboard.
[14:07] <popey> dont think i have a photo
[14:08] <dwatkins> ah ok, no worries
[14:08] <dwatkins> perhaps I dreamed it ;)
[14:08] <popey> and he's not easily fooled!
[14:08] <dwatkins> smart kitty
[14:09]  * SuperEngineer imagines popey with a second keyboard - a.k.a. a cat bat ;)
[14:09] <SuperEngineer> meeeoooooww [dopler effect required]
[17:32] <daftykins> hmm not a penguin in sight
[17:46] <shauno> man, I've scrubbed this mouse like it's contagious, and it's still too lumpy to play games with :/
[17:46] <daftykins> D:
[17:57] <mapps> evening
[17:57] <mapps> a penguin daftykins?
[17:57] <daftykins> heyup
[17:58] <daftykins> yes, i thought he might be interested in some metrics as to my storage setup
[17:58] <mapps> didnt have time for all my tv series before bed:D time for arrowin a bit
[17:58] <daftykins> i'm copying the data from old to new now
[17:58] <mapps> ah
[17:58] <daftykins> sigh, people at the neighbours being rowdy.
[17:59] <daftykins> ah good they're leaving
[18:00] <mapps> :D
[18:00] <daftykins> Liberation Day today, so noise is to be expected
[18:01] <mapps> so hard to get to sleep
[18:01] <mapps> didnt get to sleep till 11am
[18:01] <mapps> :(
[18:01] <mapps> hate lying there wanting to sleep..usually take a nytol but run out
[18:02] <daftykins> D:
[18:03] <mapps> annoying seeing the time tick away and no nearer to sleeping heh
[18:04] <daftykins> worse for me, eyesights so bad i don't see any time display
[18:04] <mapps> oh
[18:04] <mapps> contacts?
[18:07] <daftykins> nah only normal specs
[18:07] <daftykins> gotta commit to reaching for those or blearily picking up a phone to read though ;)
[18:08] <mapps> heh
[18:08] <mapps> not interested in contacts at all?
[18:09] <daftykins> i trialled them once but things were behaving a bit odd
[18:09] <daftykins> then i had a lot of travel so wasn't at home to carry on
[18:10] <daftykins> so i'd have to start from scratch again if i wanted to, not really keen on the ongoing cost though really
[18:11] <mapps> ah i see
[18:11] <mapps> u can get semi perm ones i thought?
[18:11] <daftykins> true, but lol @ taking care of them
[18:12] <daftykins> stumbling about in the night applying cleaning solution, haha
[18:12] <mapps> heh
[18:12] <daftykins> i'm one of the types that doesn't look right without specs too
[18:14] <mapps> ah
[18:17] <daftykins> Guernsey telco infrastructure is so bad, when there's a big event on, you can barely even get a call through ;)
[18:22] <mapps> hah nice
[18:22] <mapps> still on 33.6?
[18:22] <mapps> :)
[18:23] <daftykins> HSPA :>
[18:23] <daftykins> for mobile data
[18:23] <mapps> and ur dsl?
[18:23] <daftykins> 40/5
[18:24] <daftykins> that does fine really
[18:24] <daftykins> no FUPs over here
[18:24] <mapps> fup?
[18:24] <ali1234> *fup fup fup*
[18:24] <mapps> ;]
[18:26] <daftykins> fair usage policy
[18:26] <daftykins> download caps and what-not
[18:28] <mapps> ah course
[18:29] <daftykins> though across the island there are those with atrocious internal property phone wiring
[18:30] <daftykins> and they of course blame the ISP for receiving a poor service speed
[18:31] <daftykins> hrmm TV is gonna be the last directory methinks
[18:31] <daftykins> 3TB D:
[19:07] <daftykins> "About 8 hours remaining"
[19:38] <Azelphur> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vks1f29f7apbjm6/2014-05-09%2020.37.14.jpg friend came over for the day, I think we have enough things. Also tesco crate abuse ftw
[19:38] <Azelphur> well, for a few days*
[19:39] <daftykins> XD
[19:39] <daftykins> lol is that a vertically bolted on radiator with 8 x 80/120mm fans?
[19:40] <Azelphur> daftykins: yup
[19:44] <daftykins> Azelphur: is she clocked to the extreme?
[19:44] <Azelphur> yup
[19:44] <Azelphur> 1.2ghz overclock on a generation 1 i7l
[19:45] <daftykins> D:
[19:47] <robotninja> nice :D I've just picked up an i7 860 from fleabay, tempted to try to crank a bit more out of it when I get a decent cooler
[19:47] <daftykins> i run stock.
[19:48] <daftykins> it's a happy life, i get to use it instead of constantly stress test and cry when it fails a 24hr prime95
[19:48] <daftykins> or stress over stability as summer approaches :>
[19:49] <diddledan_> or worry about warranty violations
[19:49]  * diddledan_ violates
[19:50] <robotninja> warranty? All I'm hoping for is that mine isn't stolen ;)
[19:50] <diddledan_> sorry, family friendly
[19:52] <daftykins> lol
[19:52] <daftykins> that's the only reason i phoned up amazon to check i could keep the 2TB HDD when they sent me it instead of a 1TB
[19:52] <daftykins> didn't want the warranty to be forfeit
[19:56] <Azelphur> daftykins: I haven't stress tested or prime95'd in...2 years?
[19:56] <Azelphur> and, my CPU will stay very cool over summer, a stock cooler probably will struggle under load :)
[19:57] <shauno> never had that problem .. we don't have summers :)
[20:00] <daftykins> lol
[20:01] <daftykins> bbl heading off to xbox, so might rematerialise on the lappy \o
[20:11] <shauno> okay, there is seriously nothing more frustrating than cannonfodder with a dodgy mouse
[20:31] <Armag3dd0n1> anyone from Birmingham?
[20:59] <MattJ> Armag3dd0n1, you? :)
[21:11] <Armag3dd0n1> you?
[21:11] <Armag3dd0n1> sorry disconnected lol
[21:11] <diddledan_> http://vimeo.com/94502406
[21:12] <Armag3dd0n1> are we allowed to ask for help here?
[21:16] <ali1234> yes
[21:18] <Armag3dd0n1> can ANYONE help me tweak ubuntu 14.04 so I get the most out of my battery?
[21:18] <Armag3dd0n1> im dying :/
[21:18] <ali1234> not really. it depends very much on what hardware you have and what software you run
[21:19] <Armag3dd0n1> ugh
[21:19] <Armag3dd0n1> i've tried everything and failed lol
[21:19] <ali1234> if you install lubuntu and lock the CPU to the lowest power mode then you will probably see a fairly large increase in battery life
[21:19] <ali1234> of course, you'll have to put up with lubuntu
[21:19] <Armag3dd0n1> what's lubuntu?
[21:19] <Armag3dd0n1> sorry im new
[21:19] <ali1234> a very basic desktop system
[21:20]  * Armag3dd0n1 looks on google
[21:20] <Armag3dd0n1> does it have a battery monitor?
[21:20] <ali1234> probably
[21:20] <Armag3dd0n1> probably?
[21:21] <ali1234> yeah, i mean, everything has a battery monitor...
[21:22] <Armag3dd0n1> i've only just install ubuntu 14.04
[21:22] <Armag3dd0n1> can't i just add it on from terminal?
[21:23] <ali1234> yess. it probably isn't what you want though
[21:24] <Armag3dd0n1> i just want something to be good with my battery lol
[21:26] <Armag3dd0n1> it's installing
[21:26] <Armag3dd0n1> hope to god it works
[21:26] <Armag3dd0n1> :/
[21:36] <Armag3dd0n1> lubuntu doesn't have a power meter :/ ugh!!!
[21:45] <diddledan_> o_O
[22:05] <daftykins> yeah, i'm gonna avoid that guy
[22:33]  * diddledan_ wanders off to turn the oven "on"
[22:35] <daftykins> diddledan_: way ahead o' yer pal, i can hear the chicken kiev suffering right now
[22:35] <daftykins> :D
[22:36] <diddledan_> :-)
[22:37] <daftykins> diddledan_: it's beeping!
[22:37] <daftykins> well, the oven... not the chicken
[23:20] <Jaffa_> mapserver
[23:21] <daftykins> jaffa, cris!