[00:37] <Bryanstein> hmm internet was out
[00:37] <Bryanstein> jmarrero, there is a BIG difference between susecon and Fossetcon...they are actually NOTHING alike
[00:37] <Bryanstein> Susecon cost $900 dollars
[00:37] <Bryanstein> Fossetcon cost $20 for 3 days food and more content
[00:42] <jmarrero> wow
[00:42] <jmarrero> that sure is super BIG diference
[00:43] <jmarrero> I truly hope I can be there. Any idea when the tickets will be available?
[00:45] <jmarrero> Bryanstein: I also imagine susecon is to present their products and more corporate things.
[00:46] <Bryanstein> jmarrero, it'll either be this weekend or early next week
[00:46] <Bryanstein> jmarrero, I've been to Susecon in FL actually
[00:46] <Bryanstein> It was quite corporate and ALL SUSE stuff really
[00:47] <Bryanstein> I was invited and totally disrespected :o(
[00:47] <jmarrero> I imagine that is no fun then.
[00:47] <jmarrero> attacked Ubuntu?
[00:48] <Bryanstein> Lol no...I am not Ubuntu...although there was naturally anti Ubuntu talk there because Ubuntu is winning in a lot of ways Suse isn't
[00:48] <Bryanstein> Yes Suse is winning in a lot of way Ubuntu isn't either...
[00:48] <Bryanstein> No it was more errr sexist, racist talk 
[00:49] <jmarrero> ohh wow
[00:49] <jmarrero> that is bad really.
[00:49] <Bryanstein> It was quite an eye opener...and also I had people talking down to me like I wasn't supposed to be there
[00:49] <jmarrero> I can't imagine how a company allow that in a official convention.
[00:49] <jmarrero> that really sucks
[00:49] <Bryanstein> jmarrero, things happen
[00:50] <Bryanstein> Sponsors albeit lol...but...it might work for you...it's worth seeing I'd say
[00:50] <Bryanstein> Go to Fossetcon then save up for Susecon and give it a try...you might have a better experience than I had.
[00:51] <jmarrero> I am Puertorrican... If you had racist comments I will have to
[00:52] <Bryanstein> Oh well you definitely wouldn't have like the word I heard because I didn't like it. 
[00:53] <Bryanstein> Anyhow...  mhall119 Lunduke is only promoting Susecon because he probably isn't paying for it.
[00:53] <Bryanstein> Susecon is not a community event...it's a Suse event. 
[00:53] <mhall119> Bryanstein: also he works for Suse
[00:53] <Bryanstein> mhall119, since when?
[00:53] <Bryanstein> I didn't see him there the first year
[00:54] <Bryanstein> mhall119, hmmm I wonder what he does for Suse
[00:54] <Bryanstein> I am now the “Social Media Marketing Manager” for SUSE.
[00:54] <Bryanstein> Ok that makes sense
[00:55] <mhall119> Bryanstein: I think he does community stuff for them
[00:55] <mhall119> yeah, that
[00:55] <Bryanstein> lol...well hehehe he still doesn't actually have to pay for his ticket
[00:55] <mhall119> true
[00:55] <mhall119> he might convince them to sponsor Fossetcon though :)
[00:55] <Nothing_Much> Hi guys
[00:56] <mhall119> hey Nothing_Much 
[00:56] <Nothing_Much> what's going on?
[00:56] <jmarrero> yeah now all their posts are actually Lundukes'
[00:56] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: Bryanstein is telling us about his new open source convention coming to Orlando in September
[00:56] <Bryanstein> mhall119, hmmm there are certain people in the Suse crowd that I'd never want people exposed to per our Code of Conduct
[00:56] <Bryanstein> mhall119, ahem not my conference OUR conference
[00:57] <mhall119> Bryanstein: I'm surprised you had such a bad experience at susecon
[00:57] <Bryanstein> lol @ jmarrero 
[00:57] <mhall119> well, disappointed is more like it, I would have expected better from them
[00:57] <Nothing_Much> What happened?
[00:57]  * Nothing_Much scrolls up
[00:57] <mhall119> Bryanstein: well, yours in that you're responsible for it :)
[00:57] <Bryanstein> mhall119, no so it wasn't that the showmanship was lack luster
[00:57] <Bryanstein> They put on a nice showing
[00:58] <mhall119> Bryanstein: I mean that I'm disappointed they behaved that way
[00:58] <Nothing_Much> OpenSUSE has a con?
[00:58] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: yeah
[00:58] <Bryanstein> Oh mhall119 truthfully...I debated going
[00:58] <Bryanstein> Nothing_Much, I attended both
[00:58] <Nothing_Much> with racists and sexists
[00:58] <Nothing_Much> yikes
[00:58] <Nothing_Much> Bryanstein: both what?
[00:59] <Bryanstein> Susecon and OpenSuse Summit
[00:59] <Bryanstein> Now I'll say this...I never told the higher ups  in Suse about my experience but I was there with 4 other individuals that say the guy make the comments right infront of me 3 times
[01:00] <Bryanstein> So I am not saying that their response to it wasn't correct as I didn't want to even make it that type of issue.
[01:00] <Nothing_Much> oh man, I can't believe how many places exist for Linux down here!
[01:00] <Bryanstein> Nothing_Much, well Fossetcon really exists for the community
[01:01] <Nothing_Much> what's Ubuntu winning over that SUSE isn't?
[01:01] <Bryanstein> Fossetcon is Free and Open Source Software Expo and Technology conference
[01:01] <Nothing_Much> (PM me the details if you want)
[01:01] <Bryanstein> Nothing_Much, server space...support contracts
[01:01] <Bryanstein> Corporate
[01:01] <Bryanstein> Europe
[01:01] <Nothing_Much> ohh
[01:01] <Bryanstein> Suse is HUGE in Europe
[01:01] <Nothing_Much> where's suse winning?
[01:01] <Nothing_Much> oh man, really?
[01:02] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: we have a better phone OS than them too :)
[01:02] <Nothing_Much> well obviously that mhall119
[01:02] <Bryanstein> mhall119, do they even have one lol
[01:02] <Nothing_Much> lol
[01:02] <Nothing_Much> KDE has too much of everything
[01:02] <Nothing_Much> ..
[01:02] <Nothing_Much> if that's what SUSE uses
[01:02] <Bryanstein> mhall119, they are just now getting into ARM a like a year ago
[01:03] <Nothing_Much> well somehow there was a Plasma tablet on ZaReason.com
[01:03] <Bryanstein> Nothing_Much, they also have a quite unfair errr advantage
[01:03] <mhall119> yeah, Red Hat was late to that party, even a couple years ago I had people in those communities telling me that ARM would never be a viable server platform
[01:03] <Bryanstein> Microsoft actually promotes Suse to it's customers...they have an agreement
[01:03] <Bryanstein> mhall119, REALLY hahaha
[01:03] <Nothing_Much> lol
[01:03] <Nothing_Much> microsoft
[01:03] <Bryanstein> Nothing_Much, honest truth
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> yeah I saw the sponsors
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> on suse summit or susecon or whatever it was
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> oh, susecon
[01:04] <Bryanstein> I'll say this though...they've got money and they surely spent it on the event
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> wait, ARM not being a server platform?
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> look at nvidia's Tegra K1!
[01:04] <Nothing_Much> it's crazy fast!
[01:05] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: this was a couple years ago, I don't think anybody would say that today
[01:05] <Nothing_Much> ohh
[01:05] <Bryanstein> Well Nothing_Much mhall119 is talking about back when things weren't crazy fast they just had really low power consumption 
[01:05] <Nothing_Much> ah
[01:05] <Nothing_Much> well, I'm hoping that ARM can replace x86
[01:05] <Nothing_Much> because I hate having a heater
[01:05] <Nothing_Much> as a PC
[01:05] <Bryanstein> LOL
[01:05] <Nothing_Much> or a PC as a heater
[01:06] <jmarrero> I wanted to see Mac books running ARM
[01:06] <mhall119> get an arm chromebook
[01:06] <jmarrero> but that dream died...
[01:06] <mhall119> balloons used to have one that he ran Ubuntu on
[01:06] <Nothing_Much> well, I gotta play my steam games :(
[01:06] <Bryanstein> Well its not so good for men either...for laptops. There are health risks associated with having a super hot laptop in your lap all the time
[01:06] <Nothing_Much> but valve seems to be heading in that direction so that's pretty cool
[01:06] <Nothing_Much> since they ported Portal to Android for the nvidia shield
[01:06] <Bryanstein> jmarrero, yes that is true, at least for now
[01:07] <jmarrero> Nothing_Much: what? Portal is on android!!!
[01:07] <Bryanstein> SUSECon Prices
[01:07] <Nothing_Much> so far apparently someone at Apple said it would be a waste of resources to port OS X
[01:08] <Nothing_Much> jmarrero: yeah
[01:08] <Bryanstein> $799 US on or before July 31
[01:08] <Bryanstein> $899 US August 01 - September 16
[01:08] <Bryanstein> $999 US September 17 - November 16
[01:08] <Nothing_Much> dude the news came at the same time when facebook aquired Oculus lol
[01:08] <Bryanstein> $1099 US on-site registration
[01:08] <Nothing_Much> that's why it was overshadowed
[01:08] <Bryanstein> Fossetcon Prices
[01:08] <Bryanstein> $20...for 3 days
[01:08] <Bryanstein> $10 for 2 days
[01:08] <Bryanstein> when ever
[01:08] <jmarrero> crazy pricing
[01:09] <Bryanstein> why should you pay more at the door?
[01:09] <Nothing_Much> http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/03/25/portal-shield/ jmarrero
[01:09] <Bryanstein> You can buy 100 Fossetcon tickets for the price of 1 Susecon ticket lol
[01:09] <jmarrero> I imagine that is better for them to manufacture their Steambox on ARM down the road
[01:10] <Bryanstein> Nothing_Much, I was planning on building a Tegra K1 cluster
[01:10] <Bryanstein> It might still happen
[01:10] <Bryanstein> Just for the evnt
[01:10] <Bryanstein> event
[01:10] <jmarrero> than just getting Intel or AMD to supply x86_64 chips.
[01:10] <mhall119> Bryanstein: how many attendees did they have when you were there?
[01:10]  * Bryanstein was speaking to Nvidia today
[01:10] <Bryanstein> mhall119, they said around 200 ish but they didn't expect that many
[01:11] <mhall119> oh, that's barely any
[01:11] <mhall119> I think XDA had more than that
[01:11] <Bryanstein> Well it's a suse only thing
[01:11] <mhall119> true
[01:11] <Bryanstein> There were ummm like 10-15 booths MAYBE
[01:12] <Bryanstein> They had really nice conference software though
[01:12] <Bryanstein> Which I'm sure is closed source...man it was nice
[01:12] <mhall119> what was nice about it?
[01:12] <Bryanstein> mhall119, well when you setup your schedule it let you know how many slots were left dynamically and when a slot opened it alerted you
[01:12] <Bryanstein> It looked slick too
[01:13] <mhall119> was that used by attendees or speakers?
[01:13] <Bryanstein> attendees
[01:13] <mhall119> why would attendees want to know when a slot was open?
[01:13] <Bryanstein> So each room had a limit and you really had to setup your schedule before hand or else the room was at capacity
[01:14] <mhall119> oh, I get it now
[01:14] <Bryanstein> mhall119, just so they can even get in lol
[01:14] <mhall119> no standing room?
[01:14] <Bryanstein> nope
[01:14] <Bryanstein> The schedule was not "open" so to speak. If you liked 3 talks on 1 slot you couldn't be in all 3 so you book one and put yourself on the waiting list for others
[01:15] <mhall119> no granted my experience is based on FLS, SELF, SCaLE and UDS, but that sounds terrible
[01:15] <Bryanstein> mhall119, it was quite an eye opener
[01:15] <Bryanstein> I didn't get it until I was basically scheduled out of some talks I want to go to
[01:16] <Bryanstein> UDS was killer in comparison
[01:16] <Bryanstein> Same venue...I actually was going to have Fossetcon there back in ummm 2011 but they pulled a fast on over on me
[01:16] <Bryanstein> s/fast on/fast one
[01:17] <Nothing_Much> quick question, does Ubuntu Touch have a Tumblr app?
[01:17] <jmarrero> UDS was in FL at one moment?
[01:17] <mhall119> jmarrero: twice
[01:17] <Bryanstein> jmarrero, oh man you missed it...twice
[01:17] <Bryanstein> UDS taught me a lot...well and OSCON
[01:18] <Bryanstein> You've gotta feed the people...that is what I learned!
[01:18] <jmarrero> Bah, I am a lowly student and will be for two more months so even If I knew about it I could not go :'(
[01:18] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: yes, but it looks like it's a webapp not native
[01:18] <jmarrero> I only can stare at the pictures people share and whats the videos on youtube and weep.
[01:18] <Bryanstein> jmarrero, how much longer will you be in the states?
[01:19] <Bryanstein> July?
[01:19] <jmarrero> I live in Puerto Rico and will move permanently to FL in July. (If all goes well)
[01:20] <jmarrero> Because you know anything can happen when you are finishing your degree..., A friend of mine was about the graduate when the University went on strike...
[01:20] <jmarrero> fun times...
[01:20] <Nothing_Much> Aw darn
[01:21] <Nothing_Much> They might be open to Ubuntu though as they have an app for WP8
[01:22] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: if they have an open API, anybody can make one
[01:22] <Nothing_Much> Not sure if they have one or not
[01:22] <Nothing_Much> How do you tell if they have an open API?
[01:22] <Nothing_Much> http://www.tumblr.com/docs/en/api/v2
[01:26] <jmarrero> that api looks pretty well documented
[01:27] <Nothing_Much> does that mean it's open?
[01:28] <jmarrero> if you mean open as you can write a app for it yes
[01:28] <jmarrero> if you mean open as opensource no
[01:28] <Nothing_Much> yeah that's what I mean
[01:28] <Nothing_Much> you can make an app for it
[01:28] <Nothing_Much> unlike twitter
[01:28] <Nothing_Much> ..
[01:28] <Nothing_Much> afaik
[01:29] <jmarrero> At least it seems like it, you have there how to follow/unfollow/edit blog/ etc 
[01:30] <jmarrero> they even have it in different languages. No C++...
[01:30] <jmarrero> But I guess Javascript would be ok for Ubuntu Phone
[01:31] <jmarrero> I think mhall119 could tell you better what to use.
[01:32] <jmarrero> and it seems it is opensource too.. https://github.com/tumblr/tumblr.js
[01:32] <mhall119> jmarrero: javascript would work, for HTML5 at least, maybe for QML depending on the lib
[01:33] <jmarrero> mhall119: you cant use JAVA or AndroidSDK/JAVA to develop a GUI app for Ubuntu Phone right?
[01:33] <jmarrero> just QT ?
[01:34] <mhall119> jmarrero: you can use Qt or HTML5, but not Java
[01:35] <mhall119> well, you can, but you have to ship the whole Java runtime with your app, and you still need to use something like Qt for widgets, the native AWT and Android widgets won't work
[01:35] <jmarrero> I see, then make more sense to use javascript
[01:35] <mhall119> yeah
[01:36] <mhall119> both QML and HTML5 use javascript for the logic
[01:36] <mhall119> QML's Javascript is a bit limited, so not all libraries meant to run in a browser will work in it
[01:37] <jmarrero>  I see
[01:57] <jmarrero> Well my time to go
[01:57] <jmarrero> have a great night
[01:58] <jmarrero> later
[02:14] <Nothing_Much> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scWj1BMRHUA too cool!
[02:59] <Nothing_Much> Huh, what'd I get banned for in #ubuntu-offtopic for?
[03:00] <mhall119> no idea
[03:01] <Nothing_Much> well I'll ask one of the mods from over there
[03:03] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: looks like it was an accidental mass-banning
[03:03] <ShawnR> Nothing_Much: over there, they can read your mind
[03:04] <ShawnR> you must have some pretty dark/nasty thoughts
[03:04] <Nothing_Much> oh interesting
[03:04] <Nothing_Much> ShawnR: oh my