[06:10] <elfy> morning knome :)
[06:11] <elfy> knome: so what we didn't discuss is what happens if we get to 19:00UTC and no-one has 8 votes :p
[06:12] <knome> then the one with most wins, obviously
[06:12] <elfy> :)
[06:12] <knome> if it's a *tie*, then i don't know what happens
[06:12] <knome> but i guess i could say it already
[06:12] <knome> it's not going to be a tie
[06:12] <knome> i received two private votes
[06:12] <knome> simon wins.
[06:12] <knome> :)
[06:13] <elfy> see 
[06:13] <elfy> I told you 
[06:13] <elfy> private votes :)
[06:13] <knome> yeah, well
[06:13] <knome> another giggled me
[06:13] <knome> won't disclose why though :P
[06:13] <elfy> and put capitals at the beginning of e-mails :D
[06:13] <knome> yeah...
[06:14] <knome> or just stop sending email! :P
[06:14] <elfy> that would be my preferred plan :)
[06:30]  * elfy clears his work item from the meeting log
[06:32]  * knome breathes out slowly
[06:32] <knome> more work
[06:32] <knome> fortunately not too much
[06:51] <Unit193> elfy: Reason to maybe stick with their schedule: They'll be dropping big things scheduled around those releases, and the betas/alphas are likely to have more core testing and less core breakage.
[06:52] <elfy> then say so on the mailing list
[06:58] <Unit193> In actual statement I agree with what you said.
[07:09] <elfy> I said only going for beta's wfm
[07:10] <elfy> which is completely the opposite to what you've just said
[07:12] <Unit193> Feature freeze and User interface freeze being where big things are dropped, which are before beta 1 and 2.  Anywho, I should go do other stuff so I make more sense.
[07:38] <knome> elfy, hrhr, another mail on -devel which tells me we should moderate it.
[08:46] <slickymasterWork> morning all
[08:47] <slickymasterWork> !team
[08:48] <slickymasterWork> guys just want to apologize everyone for not being able, yesterday, to attend the meeting, but my son suffered an injury during his tennis practice and had to go to the hospital
[08:51] <slickymasterWork> fortunately it was just a sprained ankle  (his right one) and didn't torn any ligaments so he didn't need surgery
[08:51] <slickymasterWork> anyway, I already casted my vote in the -devel ML
[10:43] <knome> slickymasterWork, it's okay :)
[10:47] <slickymasterWork> morning knome
[10:48] <knome> good day
[10:48] <slickymasterWork> I must confess that it scared me 
[10:48] <knome> i'm sure
[10:48] <knome> good to hear everything is okay
[10:50] <slickymasterWork> yeah, he'll have to rest his ankle for a week or two
[10:50] <slickymasterWork> until the swelling goes down
[10:50] <slickymasterWork> anyway, I already voted in the ML
[10:50] <knome> obviously :)
[10:50] <knome> yeah
[10:51] <knome> simon has already won
[10:51] <knome> but i'll let it roll
[10:51] <slickymasterWork> yeah, figure as much
[10:51] <knome> practically lionel could vote
[10:51] <knome> :P
[10:51] <slickymasterWork> I'll wait until it's official to congratulate him
[10:52] <slickymasterWork> but we won't loose knome, I hope
[10:52] <slickymasterWork> + you
[10:52] <knome> nope
[10:52] <slickymasterWork> that's a relief 
[12:22] <brainwash> mmh, ochosi was working on LO icons lately + new lead = libreoffice installed by default confirmed!
[12:22]  * knome pacepalms
[12:22] <brainwash> :)
[12:51] <elfy> the sooner we either have a new list or make the -devel one read only for the majority the better
[12:51] <elfy> the only real issue I foresee is I'll be forced to call for testing on the -users list
[12:53] <knome> well, that's a small burden to take
[12:53] <knome> besides, people would still be able to subscribe
[12:53] <knome> so they can follow the devel list
[12:53] <knome> though i don't know why they would if they only want to test
[12:53] <knome> in that case, they could just join -testers
[12:54] <knome> ...or(/and) we can just send mails to -users too
[12:54] <elfy> because people ask questions about it :)
[14:41] <slickymasterWork> elfy, Catfish test is somewhat screwed . The second line of the third block not only is redundant with the third line of the first block but it's also misleading
[14:43] <qwebirc105815> presently it's <dt>Type touch test Test and enter</dt> <dd>Terminal prompt changes to ~/Desktop$</dd>
[14:43] <qwebirc105815> which is of course wrong
[14:43] <qwebirc105815> do you want me to fix or do you prefer to do it yourself?
[16:58] <slickymasterWork> elfy: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/05/09/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t14:41
[16:58] <elfy> yea - just this minute read that
[17:04] <slickymasterWork> will you address it or do you want me to?
[17:05] <elfy> you can - then I can approve etc 
[17:06] <slickymasterWork> ok, I'll pick it up tonight, tomorrow the latest
[17:22] <elfy> no rush slickymasterWork - it's optional anyway
[17:23] <slickymasterWork> yeah, but it's a quick fix. Easily doable in the weekend
[17:25] <ali1234> ochosi: mclasen applied the patch on gtk2 :)
[20:03] <knome> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-May/010179.html
[20:03]  * knome bows
[20:05] <pleia2> all hail ochosi!
[20:07] <Unit193> Can we kick knome now?
[20:11] <knome> yes
[20:24] <elfy> congrats ochosi 
[20:33] <ochosi> !team | thanks everyone, i will send a more official note to the ML on sunday or monday!
[20:34] <knome> hooray
[20:34] <ochosi> ali1234: yay, sounds good
[20:34] <lderan> \o/
[20:34] <ochosi> ali1234: btw, i also talked to seb128 again today and he said he'll sponsor your debdiff :) so thanks again for that!
[20:34] <knome> ochosi, when you are *really* around, let's move all the LP assets to your control
[20:34] <ochosi> okeydokey
[20:35] <ochosi> yeah, i only have a few minutes now...
[20:35] <knome> yep
[20:35] <knome> just ping me
[20:35] <ochosi> righty, will do
[20:35] <elfy> :)
[20:37] <elfy> have a good one ochosi 
[20:37] <ochosi> ty :)
[20:39] <elfy> ochosi - just remember that now you are XPL - I at least expect replies from you :p
[20:39] <elfy> thanks for the replies in the past knome :D
[20:39] <knome> hehe, you're welcome
[20:40] <knome> you can expect replies in the future as well
[20:40] <elfy> :)
[20:40] <ochosi> elfy: hehe, wait, i *did
[20:40] <ochosi> * just reply, no? ;)
[20:40] <elfy> knome: see replies to my threads from someone - leads to hopefully an extra name on the testing list ;)
[20:41] <ochosi> we should discuss closing the dev ML again soonish
[20:41] <ochosi> the last few threads have kinda shown this again
[20:41] <elfy> HA
[20:41] <knome> ochosi, i have an action item to send a proposal
[20:41] <ochosi> or moderate it, but it's a lot of work and as long as there are no volunteers...
[20:41] <knome> ochosi, if i don't get it before you're back, and want to work on it on a pad, wfm
[20:41] <ochosi> knome: ah cool, haven't gotten round to read the full meeting backlog
[20:42] <knome> and we have more moderators now
[20:42] <ochosi> ah that's good
[20:42] <knome> (yeah, the meeting minutes aren't up either)
[20:42] <knome> elfy is
[20:42] <ochosi> i have no clue tbh who's moderating atm :)
[20:42] <knome> ubottu, is
[20:42] <knome> err, Unit193 
[20:42] <knome> bluesabre, 
[20:42] <knome> me
[20:42] <knome> pleia2, 
[20:42] <knome> for -devel
[20:42] <Unit193> Heh, and I'm looking up now how to do this.
[20:42] <knome> well not *yet*
[20:42] <ochosi> sounds good
[20:42] <knome> i haven't passed the passwords yet
[20:42] <ochosi> huhuuu
[20:42] <lderan> Unit193, :P
[20:43] <knome> but i'll get to that..
[20:43] <Unit193> ochosi: Bottom of the info screen normally.
[20:43] <elfy> Unit193: basically - when you do it - you'll see an e-mail - click the link - go to the page - moderate - discard spam ones :)
[20:44]  * knome sighs
[20:44] <knome> i'll do the meeting minute stuff
[20:45] <knome> and the moderator stuff
[20:51] <knome> Unit193, bluesabre: you're now moderator of both lists. do you need a quick overview?
[20:52] <knome> elfy, you're now also on -users
[20:52] <elfy> knome: ack
[21:04] <ochosi> night everyone!
[21:04] <knome> night xpl
[21:04] <knome> :P
[21:04] <elfy> good night ochosi 
[21:04]  * elfy lets him have the weekend before starting ... 
[21:04] <ochosi> knome: i won't add that to my highlight list so you can more easily talk behind my back ;)
[21:05] <knome> :P
[21:05] <lderan> good night oh new glorious leader
[21:05] <ochosi> elfy: thanks for the generosity!
[21:05] <elfy> so we just need an alias XPL=ochosi instead :p
[21:05] <ochosi> lderan: huhu, don't say that too often, i might get used to it
[21:06]  * ochosi bows and disappears behind the curtain...
[21:06]  * knome imagines ochosi tiptoeing backwards with the back hunched like black adder
[21:07] <elfy> and that is the stage set till 16.04 ... 
[21:11] <elfy> night all :)
[21:11] <knome> nighty elfy 
[21:15] <Unit193> knome: Perhaps.
[21:16] <knome> let's see when we have something pending the next time
[22:23] <slickymaster> hey sanchopanza 
[22:23] <slickymaster> it's great to be able to count with your help
[22:23] <sanchopanza> hello!
[22:24] <slickymaster> so, what are you available to help us with
[22:24] <sanchopanza> i'm already set up with bzr and launchpad. i just need to know what i can do.
[22:25] <sanchopanza> i was hoping to get a list of docs that need to be reviewed now.
[22:26] <slickymaster> well, you could start by going through to docs to check for any grammar errors or typos
[22:26] <knome> we currently have a pretty good situation though
[22:26] <knome> not too much new stuff that would need going through
[22:26] <slickymaster> and while doing that you'll be able to understand how they are structured
[22:27] <knome> especially if you look into the docbook markup ;)
[22:27] <slickymaster> hey knome 
[22:28] <sanchopanza> should i still pull from lp:xubuntu-docs?
[22:28] <slickymaster> yeah, knome it's pretty much right
[22:28] <knome> yep, lp:xubuntu-docs is the utopic branch
[22:31] <slickymaster> sanchopanza, you you fell that some specific section could be reworded or in any way enhanced please do a MP and I or knome, or even someone else in the team will take a look at it
[22:32] <sanchopanza> MP?
[22:32] <knome> merge proposal
[22:32] <sanchopanza> ah. yes, i've proposed two so far
[22:32] <sanchopanza> one was merged, the other is still in development
[22:32] <knome> me and jjfrv8 can push to the branch
[22:33] <knome> slickymaster, you should get that push right too
[22:33] <Unit193> sanchopanza: If you are who I think you are, that change looked good.  If not, then I have no idea who owns that branch.
[22:33] <slickymaster> knome: good point knome, you'll have to walk me through how to do it
[22:34] <knome> slickymaster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Organization#Requirements_for_Ubuntu_Documentation_Committers
[22:35] <knome> slickymaster, and: You can apply to join either of these teams by posting to the mailing list and asking to be added. Please provide evidence that you satisfy the requirements in this section. It's particularly helpful if you can include links to concrete examples of your work, such as wiki pages or patches. 
[22:35] <slickymaster> knome, basically it's what jjfrv8 did last cycle
[22:35] <Unit193> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ted-m-cox/xubuntu-docs/branchname/revision/192 nope that's you all right.
[22:35] <knome> slickymaster, i think you practically meet all the requirements already
[22:36] <knome> slickymaster, so you should just send an email and get the process going
[22:36] <sanchopanza> thanks for the info; i wasn't sure if i should keep working like i was before 14.04 was released
[22:36] <slickymaster> I was going to say that I wasn't sure if I had enough work done
[22:36] <knome> slickymaster, didn't you do many MP's already? :)
[22:36] <Unit193> jjfrv8: Haha, nice one http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jjfrv8/xubuntu-docs/test-utopic-branch2/revision/196 :P
[22:37] <Unit193> knome: I've done a few, breaking everything as I go along.
[22:37] <knome> Unit193, hah
[22:37] <slickymaster> Unit193: it's his cowboy soul
[22:38] <slickymaster> knome: yes, a few. but do you think that I should mentioned all thos MP in the mail to the team's ML?
[22:39] <knome> slickymaster, nah, just say you've done several MP's for the xubuntu docs
[22:40] <slickymaster> knome, I'll start to draft that mail and then will humbly ask for your opinion on it
[22:40] <knome> works for me
[22:42] <slickymaster> I'm going to poke now on #ubuntu-doc knome 
[22:42] <knome> i'll be there ;)