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RippSteakfacechannel's feels kinda dead00:00
RippSteakfacewhat sort of laptop is it00:00
OneWithWavesIt's an Acer TravelMate 6292 - I think it's kind of similar to an Eee but don't bet on it.00:03
RippSteakfacei'm on an eee at the moment. i actually didn't expect xubuntu to map the keys properly but it did so far - my guess is the keyboard map is slightly off for your specific laptop00:04
RippSteakfaceis there a Fn button you use to change brightness and bluetooth?00:04
OneWithWavesI can use the Fn key to change brightness in combination with the left/right keys but the BT key is dedicated and has an indicator LED.00:05
RippSteakfacesec00:09
RippSteakfacecan't find a high-enough res image to see the keyboard :(00:10
RippSteakfacehave you tried asking in #ubuntu ? this channel is super slow00:10
RippSteakfacei'm sure it'll come down to how the keyboard is mapped and what "layout" xubuntu is using00:11
OneWithWavesI wasn't sure if it would apply, but I mean if it's a keyboard setting you're right, it wouldn't be that different...00:11
OneWithWavesI like to support individual distros :)00:11
RippSteakfacei do too00:11
OneWithWavesI LOVE Xubuntu...00:11
RippSteakfacei'm a super noob too, just put xubuntu on here00:11
RippSteakfacegotta put my daughter to bed, maybe we'll see what's up later00:11
OneWithWavesI'll probably be back later, enjoy your family and being awesome.00:12
OneWithWavesThanks for the help.00:12
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RippSteakfaceanyone know what was released in the latest update?03:51
knomewhat "update" ?03:51
RippSteakfacea security update and one other, came through today for me03:52
knomenot really.03:52
knomeyou can read the changelogs when you update03:52
RippSteakfacehm yeah the windows were blank for me, probably didn't look at the right part03:53
xubuntu194hello everyone. . .05:57
xubuntu194my xubuntu is connected to windows server 2008 and the issue is when the password got expired it is not showing in xubuntu and it is not at all prompting for change password.05:58
xubuntu793Hello. is any one there?05:58
xubuntu793i am trying to burn a xubuntu 14.04 live dvd. but the iso image one downloads seems to be broken. can someone help me?05:59
xubuntu194password change prompt is not working in xubuntu, which is connected to windows AD06:00
vrkalak*** Remember, everyone here is a volunteer - and many others are new, hence can only help within their individual skill level of Linux.  Ask. Then, be patient.06:02
knomemorning elfy06:10
xubuntu226buongiorno a tutti06:55
xubuntu226ho un problema con xubuntu. Ogni tanto mentre lavoro con il pc mi esce di continuo la richiesta di uscita. come mai?06:57
xubuntu226come mai?06:58
Unit193!it06:58
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)06:58
_3by8How do I get the dock that 13.10 had? The one that looks like the Mac OS X launcher?07:24
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koegs1:30min :D07:29
elfymust have worked it out07:29
LachezarHey all. After upgrading to 14.04 I found myself lacking a PDF viewer: evince was removed! An upgrade botch, or something by design?07:43
Unit193Well I can tell you that never happened to me.  What happens if you try to install it?07:44
Lachezar evince : Depends: gnome-icon-theme-symbolic but it is not installable07:45
LachezarPackage gnome-icon-theme-symbolic is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:46
Unit193gnome-icon-theme-symbolic is in main...07:48
Unit193You do have standard repos?  Does  sudo apt update  make it installable?07:49
LachezarLC_ALL=C aptitude show gnome-icon-theme-symbolic -> No current or candidate version found for gnome-icon-theme-symbolic07:49
LachezarJust did an 'apt-get update'…07:49
Unit193Alright, so what's your /etc/apt/sources.list look like?07:50
LachezarI have deb http://bg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted07:51
LachezarUnit193: I could pastebin the whole lot if needed.07:51
Unit193That should do it, shows up fine http://bg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic/ :/07:53
LachezarOff to #debian to ask for help pin-pointing this out.07:54
Unit193They aren't going to want to help since it's not a Debian system.07:56
LachezarThere is something weird with this package: 'aptitude show gnome-icon-theme-symbolic' -> 'Replaces: gnome-power-manager (< 3.2), gnome-power-manager (< 3.2)'07:56
Unit193Not so weird if it ships an icon gnome-power-manager used to.08:00
LachezarUnit193: #debian helped: it comes down to my attempt to forbid Unity and Zeitgeist installlation with previous upgrade. I had disabled the gnome-icon-theme-symbolic in the apt preferences.08:17
xubuntu793i am trying to burn a xubuntu 14.04 live dvd. but the iso image one downloads seems to be broken. my dvd wont boot. can someone help me?08:24
cfhowlett!md5sum|xubuntu793 SEEMS to be?  verify it and stop guessing08:26
ubottuxubuntu793 SEEMS to be?  verify it and stop guessing: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows08:26
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abcdefCan you spare me the website to download xubuntu that can install in Wins 7 ?09:07
slickymasterWorkabcdef: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/09:08
cfhowlettabcdef installing in windows is done with wubi.  wubi is no longer supported.  use virtualbox or do a proper dual boot.09:08
abcdefcfhowlett: virtualbox is an additional file and we can download it ?09:11
cfhowlettabcdef it's an app in the ubuntu repos, so yes.09:11
cfhowlett!vbox09:11
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox09:11
abcdefso ubuntu installed first, and then it transform to xubuntu, right ?09:12
Lachezarabcdef: Xubuntu is an Ubuntu variant. But Xubuntu is an *ALTERNATIVE* to Windoze, not something you install *IN* Windoze.09:14
abcdefOh09:16
cfhowlettabcdef so you COULD 1. install virtualbox in windows.  2. install xubuntu inside that virtualbox.09:17
cfhowlettor you could install xubuntu in a dual boot next to windows.09:17
starratsgood morning everyone!09:19
starratsabcdef it's easier to burn an image on a dvd and install xubuntu 14.04, it will partition the HDD itself, just follow and read each 'panel' of the install09:25
hmagooif I "lock version" in synaptic will that come in to play later on down the line if I do a dist-upgrade or something.  I don't use the packages, but don't want to remove them.09:45
hmagooor upgrade them really09:45
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nikolamwhat you suggest for me to install in xubuntu, to provide easy remote help and suppport (I installed one fresh 14.04 laptop to the friend)11:00
slickymasterWorknikolam, xrdp server ( Remote Desktop Protocol Server). It allows to connect to your ubuntu box from any rdp client.11:03
nikolamaha, so i can use ssh tunneling with that?11:04
nikolambut user needs to tell me he's IP and port needs to be open to connect...11:04
Yotsonanyone got an idea how to solve/troubleshoot a complete hanging of xubuntu on starting firefox or thunderbird? Removing .mozilla or .thunderbird helps sometimes but only once.11:04
Yotsongoogle seems to return mostly older info. Not sure if applicable.11:05
nikolamI must then set up something like, listening VNC server, that opens connection to my machine somewhere on the internet...11:05
slickymasterWorknikolam: see this: xrdp setup over ssh (http://askubuntu.com/questions/202011/xrdp-setup-over-ssh)11:07
koegsor just use teamviewer :)11:42
nikolamkoegs, yes or.. is there any alternatives to him?11:43
koegschrome remote desktop11:44
koegsbut for occasional user support i prefer teamviewer11:44
nikolamuh, it is available only in chrome, not chromium, right?11:52
Yotsonany tips how to troubleshoot a complete hang of xubuntu (hard reset needed) on starting firefox and/or thunderbird? on starting screen is scrambled with horizontal lines. mostly greenish today.. :)12:14
LuyinYotson: tried booting from a live system?12:31
YotsonLuyin, yup. Originally installed from it. :)12:37
Yotsonand nope, cant remember nuking itself than. although i didn't try thunderbird in that situation.12:38
LuyinYotson: what errors do you get when you start ff/thunderbird?12:39
Yotsonimpossible to see if there are any. start thunderbird -> horizontal lines on screen12:41
Yotsonremoving .thunderbird from home folder, starts nicely /once/12:41
LuyinYotson: open a terminal and enter "firefox" and paste it12:42
Yotsonhangs, as in, not possible to see/copy/... anything. firefox -safe-mode starts fine for the first time, after that -bleh-12:43
Yotsonto be clear, the whole os hangs not only the application. No terminal at ctrl-alt-F1 or at least no keyboard input.12:44
Yotsonhardware was working fine under windows XP, hence why i tried xubuntu. lol12:45
Yotsonbut i'm at the point of applying some percussive maintenance...12:45
LuyinYotson: what's the output of "firefox" in a terminal?12:47
Yotsonlike i tried to explain, no idea. scrambled screen12:47
starratsYotson does your touchpad and keyboard lock-up/freeze on start-up and reboot?12:47
PotatoHeadHello world!12:48
PotatoHeadLooking for some help with printer installation...  It is hanging on install every time I attempt, regardless of USB or Wifi.12:49
Yotsonstarrats, cant say they do. When i see a cursor, i can move it.12:49
starratsah okay12:49
Yotsonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1176062 describes what i have here the closest. Although i don't see the short period where the mouse/keyboard is un responsive but screen isn't garbled yet.12:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1176062 in linux (Ubuntu) "System usually crashes when starting Firefox and/or Thunderbird" [High,Expired]12:51
LuyinYotson: then it's probably something else12:52
LuyinYotson: I'm still waiting for your report of what exactly your errors are when starting ff or tb. in the terminal, on the gui you won't get anything else than misbehaviour.12:53
Yotsonto be very clear. i don't see any errors, be it i start ff/tb from desktop or cli. The moment i hit enter/click on launcher -> scrambled screen.12:55
Yotsonso, i would love to give you a error message. no idea how i can get it 'out there'12:56
starratsPotatohead what printer are you trying to install and is this on xubuntu 14.04?12:56
PotatoHeadNX515 and correct 14.0412:57
PotatoHeadsorry Epson Stylus NX51512:57
starratsis it a wifi or hard wired printer ?12:58
LuyinYotson: when you start ff via terminal, there is no output?12:58
Yotsonscrambled screen, thats the only output i can see.12:58
Luyin(process:12144): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed I get when I try to open ff via terminal (ff opens normally anyway)12:58
PotatoHeadIt auto recognizes the printer and it finds drivers, but when I install, the 'printer install' hangs every time.  I have tried installing both wired and wifi.  With the wifi, I choose the printer out of the list of recognized devices.12:59
PotatoHead..As opposed to choosing ipps,https etc..12:59
YotsonLuyin, cant say i have that here or not. very little time between hitting enter and the garbled screen.13:00
Yotsonvery little -> too little to notice anything.13:01
LuyinYotson: you can pipe the output into a text file. then you can see if there is anything interesting later.13:01
LuyinYotson: perhaps checking the log files of X.org might help, too.13:01
PotatoHeadIf I turn off/on the printer I get the notification in the top right when it boots back up - "configuring new printer" then "No drivers installed" (not verbatim)13:03
starratsI do not know why it's not installing.  If the printer is plugged via usb and is on and the computer is recognizing it and finds the drivers13:05
starratsbut it's not installing,13:07
PotatoHeadCould I attempt to install via command line and look to see where it is fudging up?13:07
starratsI'm not sure, maybe someone else has that answer.  I have a 10 yr old Canon printer usb and Xubuntu captured it and got the drivers and it works just fine, so don't know on an Epson.13:08
PotatoHeadI do hate this printer with a passion, so I blame it :).13:09
PotatoHeadThis guy had no problem with printer - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152474613:11
Yotsonthanks for your effort. out of time and battery here...13:14
starratsSome printers are not as compatible with Xubuntu as others and they 'almost work' but there's an error somewhewre, I'm surprised that my old printer works with xubuntu.13:14
PotatoHeadInteresting.  The printer wizard is hanging if I choose 'local driver', instead of bringing me to an explorer to choose the file13:15
xubuntu420help13:17
starrats!ask | xubuntu42013:18
ubottuxubuntu420: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:18
xubuntu420I am trying to install xubuntu on my xp machine which has no cd player (it is a Samsung N130) is there anywhere that I can find a step by step DIY guide, I have looked and looked but cannot find one. Many thanks13:20
GridCube!unetbootin13:20
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:20
GridCubexubuntu420, ^13:20
xubuntu420many thanks ubottu & GridCube13:30
xubuntu820hi13:53
xubuntu249Hello13:53
xubuntu249Is it ok to ask for help here on something?13:54
xubuntu820got problem to install driver Nvidia on my Xubuntu 1413:54
Deepfriedicexubuntu249, Sure.13:55
xubuntu820I'm a real novice on it13:55
xubuntu249I have two blank hard drives, both formatted and clean, no OS on either.  I would like to dual boot Xubuntu on one hard drive and Windows 7 on the other.  Will Xubuntu help me do that?13:56
Grub_hi13:57
Grub_I need some help with my xubuntu grub13:57
Grub_is there anyone who can hel me?13:58
koegsxubuntu249: easiest way is: install windows first, then xubuntu, the installer will help you and grub will be able to boot both13:58
Deepfriedicexubuntu249, Dual-booting should be pretty easy if you have two separate hard drives.13:58
Grub_thanks, I will explain my problem13:58
xubuntu249Thanks, so with burning Xubuntu to a DVD and running it after installing Windows 7 to one hard drive, Xubuntu should help me set up the dual boot?13:59
Grub_I installed Xubuntu in dual boot with windows, obviously I installed win first13:59
koegsxubuntu249: basically: yes13:59
Grub_the I installe grub customizer13:59
Deepfriedicexubuntu249, It should do, though if you put Xubuntu on the other harddrive there shouldn't be much to set up.13:59
xubuntu249Ok, I am brand new to Xubuntu, having tried Ubuntu and Mint, so wasn't sure how it would work with two hard drives with windoze on one.14:00
Deepfriedicexubuntu249, Grub should auto detect Windows, and Windows won't complain because you haven't changed anything on it's drive.14:00
Grub_because I did this for a person who is not expert, I used  GC to hide other boot, letting only Win and Ubuntu14:01
Grub_but because i installed more ram, I wanted to do a memtest14:01
xubuntu249Good, and thanks for the assurance, I want to have a Linux distro on my desktop and this seems like a good opportunity to install it, with two hard drives available for the two OS.14:01
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DeepfriediceGrub_, There are Memtest CDs.14:02
Grub_So I opened grub customizer and reactivated memtest in boot start screen14:02
Grub_I rebooted and the boot screen only tells me14:03
Grub_Minimal BASH-like line editing14:03
Grub_how can I restore grub?14:03
Grub_I found where are the various boot locations14:04
Grub_so I know that xubuntu root is in hd0,514:04
Grub_how can I boot it? I tried this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2?rd=Grub2#Encountering_the_dreaded_Grub2_boot_prompt14:05
Grub_"Encountering the dreaded GRUB 2 boot prompt "14:05
DeepfriediceGrub_, I'm no expert on GRUB, but I think live CDs have a "repair GRUB" option14:05
Grub_but it does not work14:05
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Grub_I will try the cd, I stay if someone has other suggestions14:07
DeepfriediceOtherwise, you are going to need to boot off a Live CD and fix grub from in the live system.14:07
slickymasterWorkGrub_: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair14:09
Grub_the kernel version of xubutu 14.04 is 3.5.5, right?14:10
Grub_I loook at your link14:11
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Grub_slickymasterWork, I will use grup repair only if i can't access my linux partition14:16
slickymasterWorkok14:16
Grub_I found that this line is oudated grub> linux (hd0,1)/vmlinuz-3.0.0-1.fc16.i686 root=/dev/sda3 rhgb quiet selinux=014:16
Grub_the new kernel version is 3.13.0-2414:17
slickymasterWorkyes, that's the kernel version shipped with 14.0414:17
Grub_good, that's something to work on14:20
amundsenhi14:37
Caveathello14:37
amundsenwhat would happen in case that xfce 4.12 would be publisehd ...lets say ...in august? xubuntu 14.04 would be updated to that version ?14:38
amundsenor it would be in backports ?14:39
brainwashmost likely available via backports14:40
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Grub_II successfully restored grub using this guide14:43
Grub_http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd14:43
Grub_but I have to use again grub customizer, I'm scared it will do a mess again :/14:44
qwebirc105815be fearless Grub_14:44
qwebirc105815;)14:44
Grub_I'll try, let's see what happens14:45
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Grub_ubuntu customizer crashed14:47
Grub_rebooted, seems ok14:48
Grub_:D14:48
qwebirc490174great Grub_14:49
qwebirc490174kudos14:49
Grub_You were right, the easiest solution was only to restore grub via live session14:50
qwebirc490174glad you got it fixed14:50
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Grub_me too14:50
augis420hello friends. any1 online?14:57
knomeaugis420, ask your question and find out15:00
augis420decided to try xubuntu... but have some trouble with installing it...when i choose the option to instal my laptop hangs and monitor shows rainbows like graphical error...is it possible that my laptop have to slow graphical card for xubuntu?15:00
augis420any1 up for helping me with this?15:01
augis420knome?15:04
bazhangdid you md5 the iso augis42015:04
augis420yes, shure... but also i should mention that ive tryed the wubi instalation way... but i dont think so thats my problem...installation is starting, but on about half completed, laptop hangs...15:06
bazhangwhats the graphic card, I doubt thats the issue though15:07
bold_is there a way to install sgminer with nvidia?15:08
augis420i realy dont know... but my laptop is pretty old...15:08
bazhangcudaminer is what you would want iirc15:09
augis420i have packled bell easy note with 480 mb ram, about 16gb free space on hdd and i gues 1.4 yhz proc...thats all i know...15:12
augis420should boot from dvd will help?or thats a graphical issue?15:13
bazhangthats mighty small amount of ram15:13
bazhangperhaps lubuntu would be a better fit15:13
augis420but wiki says, that u can run xubuntu even on 64mb ram...thats why i want to try this os...maybe laptop will run more faster thanwinxp15:15
ElderDryasaugis420: Did you ever think of checking the Xubuntu site for requirements? "To install and run the Xubuntu 12.04 release, it is strongly recommended to have at least 512 MB of memory. Installing with the alternate or Minimal CD requires you to have only 128 MB of memory"15:18
ElderDryasAnd as bazhang said, one of the distros speciallizing in low footprints would be a better option (at least less frustrating)..15:19
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ElderDryaswhich reminds me, why does it say 12.04? :)15:20
augis420ive found the way how to install 14.04 xubuntu with wubi tricking it with lubuntu...may this couse the problem to?15:20
bazhangas the alternate no longer exists, it'd be the mini cd, then build up15:20
knomeaugis420, yes.15:20
bazhangaugis420, dont bother with wubi15:20
augis420so if i will try dvd xubuntu installation it would bring me better results?15:22
bazhangno15:22
augis420so lubuntu is what should end my problem with installation?15:23
bazhangit's worth a try15:23
augis420hmm...15:23
ElderDryasaugis420: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu  See "System Requirements"15:24
augis420cant it be a problem, that im installing double os?winxp and xubuntu?15:25
ElderDryasNot if you're doing it correctly, lots of folks dual boot with no problems.15:26
ElderDryasIt's more likely a hardware issue.15:27
augis420also many folks says that wubi way of installalling xubuntu 14.04 not recomended and may couse issues....cant it be so?15:28
bazhangavoid wubi15:28
ElderDryaslike the plague15:28
xanguaaugis420: wubi has been unmaintained for two years and is incompatible with uefi15:29
augis420omg...my laptop also sometimes shot downs imediately, maybe its wubi cause this?15:29
bazhangor a completely overmatched old laptop15:30
augis420ive also tryed unetboot program, but same sh*t...laptop gangs wit very colorfull image.lol15:31
ElderDryasaugis420: In all honestly, bazhang's absolutely correct...I'd really suggest trying something like lubuntu, puppy, something with really low system requirements.15:33
augis420and one more question...ive didnt read anything about lubuntu. but as i understand i can use all the warez like ubuntu ane etc...or it have some limitations?15:36
ElderDryasHere's a starting list (but be careful, I see a couple of distros that I don't consider low system requirements)  http://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=Linux&category=Old+Computers&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=Active15:36
ElderDryasaugis420: "warez" is another problem.  Just because you can install a distro and an application is in their repos doesn't mean you can actually use the application easily...i.e., with 480 mb of RAM, I doubt that you could run something like GIMP really well.15:40
augis420ive found a lmms. can i run it with my laptop?ive tryed with winxp, but...u  imagine the result..15:41
ElderDryasand what is a "lmms" ?15:42
bazhangaudacious is what you want not lmms15:43
bazhang!lmms15:43
augis420*linux music making studio or smth like that15:43
bazhangits much like winamp15:43
ElderDryasah...winamp...those were the days :)15:44
augis420no my interest is music making15:45
ElderDryasaugis420: http://lmms.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Requirements  Looks like "no, not well"15:45
ElderDryasand if your interest is "music making", that laptop is just not going to cut it, no matter what distro you install.15:46
bazhangwith that amount of ram, that wont be happening. you could play mp315:46
augis420just 2 more questions and im out...i guess my unknowing realy annoying.ok?(ok thats not 1 of those 2 questions)15:46
ElderDryasthat was a statement, not a question :)15:47
bazhangnope , not annoying at all15:47
bazhangwe live for this15:47
augis420u realy friendly ppl. on internet i read that linux users are not friendly...dislike for that!15:48
bazhangthats very nice of you to say augis42015:49
augis420what about using windows apps on linux? does emulation uses more ram?15:49
ElderDryasyes15:50
augis420much?15:50
cfhowlettaugis420 if you have to ask ...15:51
bazhang!wine | augis42015:52
ubottuaugis420: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:52
augis420hm...doesnt matter...my music making will be continued on more effective laptop....my next(last) question is about flash on lubuntu. can i watch movies online with no problem?15:53
xubuntu389hallo everybody15:53
cfhowlettaugis420 sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras            for all the required codecs15:54
xubuntu389i've installed bodhi on my old pc15:54
ElderDryasaugis420: You'd be better off asking on #lubuntu, and it depends what what/where you're watching...youtube, no problem, netflix, big problem :)15:55
cfhowlettxubuntu389  bodhi is not supported here.  sorry15:55
xubuntu389and now i want to install xubuntu instead of bodhy15:55
cfhowlettxubuntu389 OK - your question???15:55
xubuntu389and now i want to install xubuntu instead of bodhy15:55
xubuntu389but there's a problem: i install bodhi with plop, because usb and cd don't work as bios15:56
cfhowlett!install15:56
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate15:56
cfhowlettxubuntu389 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux15:57
xubuntu389thanks very much for this link http://tinyurl.com/3exghs15:58
xubuntu389if i've problem can i ask in this chat?15:58
augis420ok ppl. im realy thankfull for ya help and i will say: have a nice day and live on this what you are doing, because thats the future! thanks again and cya. i will try lubuntu and will try to join the community of creation15:58
cfhowlettxubuntu389 of course ... or in !linux15:58
cfhowlettaugis420 you HAVE looked at ubuntu studio, right?15:58
augis420no,i dont know ubuntu studio15:59
cfhowlettaugis420 www.ubuntustudio.org15:59
bazhanghe only has 480mb of ram cfhowlett15:59
xubuntu389can you give me the link of download of xubuntu no pae?16:00
cfhowlettbazhang d'oh!16:00
cfhowlettaugis420 little incentive to start saving up for a computer upgrade ...16:00
xubuntu389can you tell me a version of xubuntu no pae?16:02
ElderDryasxubuntu389: "Lubuntu and Xubuntu offered a PAE and a non-PAE release up to and including 12.04, but from 12.10 only the PAE releases are maintained" from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE16:02
cfhowlettxubuntu389 so 12.04 non-pae is still supported.16:03
xubuntu389where i download it?16:03
ElderDryasand it's got, what, another year on support?16:04
xubuntu389if i click on "Download" it redirect me on xubuntu 14.0416:04
cfhowlettElderDryas about that -16:04
cfhowlettxubuntu389 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.04/release/16:05
ElderDryasxubuntu389:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04/release/16:05
ElderDryascfhowlett: Yes?16:05
cfhowlettElderDryas yeah I just saw that error.   sorry.16:06
xubuntu389thank you. it isn't pae version, is it?16:06
cfhowlettxubuntu389 us the xubuntu link.  My auto-complete is incorrect16:06
xubuntu389ok16:07
xubuntu389it seems strange, 1 hour!16:07
cfhowlettxubuntu389 ??? 1 hour for ... what?16:07
xubuntu3891 hour for download16:08
ElderDryasI've found that the archived versions (and dailies, sometimes) can be a bit slow downloading16:09
cfhowlettxubuntu389 torrent's are frequently faster ...16:09
xubuntu389a question:  here http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html for xubuntu wich file i have to select16:10
xubuntu389look at 2)16:10
cfhowlettxubuntu389 OLD OLD link16:10
xubuntu389can you tell me the newest link?16:11
cfhowlettxubuntu389 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux16:11
xubuntu389where i have to look exactly?16:13
cfhowlettxubuntu389 that link gives you the exact method.  start on the first line ...16:13
xubuntu389but there a lot a lot a lot of lines...16:14
ElderDryasand here's some more lines... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation16:16
xubuntu389i have a problem16:25
xubuntu389https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Procedure_2 look at step 216:25
xubuntu389where i found it?16:26
cfhowlettxubuntu389 "it"?16:26
xubuntu389where i grab initrd.gz16:27
ElderDryascfhowlett: The instructions he's referring to are OLD (This procedure was used for Hardy. It may be adaptable for Gutsy) he can't find the files they talk about.16:28
cfhowlettxubuntu389 ElderDryas I thought this was the most current link.  If there's a new one, I don't see it.  sorry for any confusion caused.16:28
xubuntu389one moment.16:29
xubuntu389i have to read installation "Without CD"16:29
ElderDryascfhowlett: I think it is...but it's still old :)  xubuntu389 the last link I posted has many install methods, take a look.16:30
xubuntu389or "Procedure 1,2"16:30
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tsaavikFinally got my indicator-application stable. Had to disable the 'Application Menus (Global Menu)' option, which I didn't like anyway :D16:39
tsaavikNow I just need to figure out how to re-assign my 'sleep' button to screen lock, it somehow got reset after a reboot16:39
xubuntu389if i try to create folder /boot the system tell me i havent't permission16:40
xubuntu389if i try to create folder /boot the system tell me i havent't permission16:40
tsaaviksudo mkdir /boot16:40
xubuntu389and how i delete this folder with sudo command?16:42
xubuntu389there's a big problem16:48
xubuntu389i reboot the computer16:48
xubuntu389and the problem is16:48
xubuntu389error: file not found16:49
xubuntu389grub rescue>_16:49
akishi all. does anyone knows about MTP devices connection?17:04
sleeziohello, is there an 'active desktop' app for x/ubuntu? for like...using an animated gif for wallpaper?17:12
sleezio...animated gif from a url...that can update itself every x amount of minutes17:12
David-Asleezio: (non-answer) a long time ago, it was possible to uncheck "let xfce control desktop background" and then run a video as background with e.g. mplayer -rootwin -nosound -noconsolecontrols17:16
David-Asleezio: nowadays, I don't know17:16
sleeziothanks17:17
David-Asleezio: come back. there is a solution e.g here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-331632-start-0.html17:26
mynymli'm unable to pair a bluetooth keyboard with xubuntu 14.04. the blueman assistant gives me numbers to input from the keyboard but it always fails. i can otherwise connect the device using "proceed without pairing", so i know the connection itself works.18:06
mynymlthere is a bug report (https://bugs.launchpad.net/blueman/+bug/438124) but no workaround has been proposed in the thread. One alternative i've seen mentioned somewhere else is to pair using the bluez-gnome applet but it seems to be unavailable in 14.0418:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 438124 in Blueman "Connecting bluetooth keyboard fails at passkey input" [Undecided,Fix committed]18:09
mynymlif anyone has suggestions for a workaround it would be very appreciated.18:10
DomiXhi, how do I made private home directory for my users ? chmod is the only way ?19:46
pleia2DomiX: if you want to change the default for every new user, you chmod the permissions of the /etc/skel directory to be what you want, ie 60019:49
pleia2the /etc/skel directory is what is copied exactly for each new user, including the permissions19:49
pleia2(of course /etc/skel is owned by root, and users homedirs are owned by them)19:49
pleia2I'd also recommend editing /etc/skel/.profile so that the umask is correct too19:50
DomiXthere is no graphical way ?19:51
pleia2I don't know19:52
DomiXif I change the default UMASK in login.defs Public will not be visible19:55
starratsbreaking the fall colors of orange and yellow in and outs, lol23:44

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