[00:01] <warhammer_> MyWay: Can you elaborate a bit more? how are you able to replicate that?  Is it letting you auth with the previous password?
[00:01] <MyWay> yes, I'm doing "passwd myusername"
[00:01] <MyWay> it asks for the old password, I insert it, then it asks for the new one and the repeat it
[00:01] <MyWay> then it says the password has been updated, but it's not
[00:01] <stef1a> I'm using 14.04 and trying to change my keyboard shortcuts. It works in the current session, but when I reboot, the changes are lost. Help?
[00:02] <warhammer_> MyWay: What user are you using to do this? Do you have root access  or sudo?
[00:02] <MyWay> this user has no sudo access and it's not root
[00:03] <v0lksman> would anyone know why DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS" doesn't see a new release using do-release-upgrade?
[00:03] <warhammer_> MyWay: Do you have root access or sudo?
[00:03] <jasabella> v0lksman... it doesnt upgrade to 14.04 lts, only 14.04.1 or something
[00:03] <jasabella> let me get you a link
[00:04] <MyWay> warhammer_: currently I don't, but yes, I have it
[00:04] <v0lksman> it's stating no new release found.
[00:04] <MyWay> when I had it, I've tried changing user password from root, too, but I got the same result
[00:04] <jasabella> v0lksman... yup
[00:04] <v0lksman> if I add -d it finds 14.04
[00:05] <v0lksman> this is lts to lts though...I shouldn't need the -d
[00:05] <jasabella> http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-from-a-lts-to-the-next
[00:05] <warhammer_> MyWay: root should be able to update all of the backend files that is def odd, as in it shouldn't even prompt for previous passwd, i happen to be working on one of my servers right now and just tested it out
[00:06] <pack^> The update manager doesn't see the upgrade either. It always has in the past.
[00:06] <warhammer_> only other thing is shadow could be borked
[00:06] <daftykins> !ppa-purge
[00:06] <jasabella> v0lksman... something about absolute stability
[00:06] <MyWay> warhammer_: if I do it with root, it does not asks for the old password, right
[00:06] <v0lksman> jasabella: ahhh...that makes sense...
[00:06] <v0lksman> ok..-d it is!  :)
[00:06] <warhammer_> MyWay: can you see if the /etc/shadow gets updated?
[00:07] <jasabella> the .1 release will have most things ironed out (hopefully)
[00:07] <MyWay> how can I check it? by checking the modification date?
[00:07] <v0lksman> jasabella: it's a dev server anyways... :)
[00:07] <v0lksman> thanks1
[00:07] <jasabella> hehe yw
[00:07] <warhammer_> MyWay: The password hash for that user should change in the /etc/shadow
[00:08] <MyWay> -rw-r----- 1 root shadow 2172 mag 10 02:06 /etc/shadow
[00:08] <meccooll> TJ-, so you said your 6 monitors are split into two screens :0.0 and :0.1 where in your xorg.conf does it say that?
[00:08] <ZeusInTraining> Anyone have recent experience with using a WUSB11 2.6 Wifi adapter with Ubuntu? (12.04)
[00:08] <MyWay> the file is updated, but I can't access it in read mode right now, because currently I don't have root access
[00:08] <TJ-> meccooll: 4 X screens
[00:09] <MyWay> so I can't say if the hash is changed, I will check it monday
[00:09] <ZeusInTraining> I have the kernel module installed (atmel-firmware) and enabled, it finds the adapter, I login, and it just hangs trying to connect.
[00:09] <Bashing-om> v0lksman: Point release 14.04.1 is due out July 24, until then 14.04 is refected as a development release ( sudo do-release-upgrade -d Where d=developement).
[00:09] <warhammer_> MyWay:  yeah that looks good from what I can see
[00:10] <meccooll> so you have 4 sceens :0.0, :0.1, :0.2, and :0.3
[00:12] <cuddylier> Is this as a cronjob '01 *    * * *' every minute or what?
[00:14] <RippSteakface> Anyone know of a way to break the Sensors Plugin away from the upper panel and into the desktop area space? I've seen some cool screenshots from Ubuntu distros with the CPU temp/etc. as a widget on the desktop. The difference is I'm running Xubuntu so I'm not sure if anything would work. No response on #xubuntu yet.
[00:16] <xangua> !info conky
[00:16] <xangua> RippSteakface: I believe you are refering to conky
[00:17] <xangua> http://helmuthdu.deviantart.com/art/CONKY-COLORS-244793180 this is a pretty easy conky setup
[00:17] <RippSteakface> Is it usable in Xubuntu as well? I'm sort of a noob.
[00:17] <baka> labyrinth of evil
[00:17] <baka> @search labyrinth of evil
[00:17] <unopaste> baka: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
[00:17] <baka> oops sorry
[00:17] <pack^> xangua: gkrellm is another system monitor
[00:19] <OerHeks> tons of pages with conky scripts http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2278
[00:19] <powerrr> hello
[00:20] <RippSteakface> OerHeks: The only thing is I'm pretty new to using the terminal, is there a walkthrough that's sorta basic?
[00:21] <RippSteakface> OerHeks: I don't want to seriously fuck anything up... yet.
[00:21] <tripelb> MPY_mobile: i restarted the ubuntu disk and iy gave me the third choice i was missing. So my questions are all defunct. Thanks.
[00:22] <OerHeks> RippSteakface, it is easy, first learn to setup > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky  then fiddle around with those examples, deploy/translate to your situation
[00:23] <MPY_mobile> tripelb: i want to know which android smartphone you have that doesnt have usb?
[00:23] <RippSteakface> OerHeks: That looks like info I may understand, thanks for your help folks!
[00:25] <pack^> RippSteakface: you can try gkrellm. It is easy to set up. Not as pretty but it works.
[00:25] <RippSteakface> pack^: Thanks I'll check that now too.
[00:32] <powerrr> @
[00:34] <tripelb> mpy
[00:37] <tripelb> MPY_mobile: i have usb and my phone works with ubuntu. the newer phones alao have usb  ut they need microsoft software and do not work natively except in some camers mode. i had a nexus and it would not. ( i didnt like the nexus much.)
[00:38] <tripelb> the newer android dont di apple either. remember MS holds the Android patents.
[00:39] <daftykins> tripelb: hello again, Microsoft software has nothing to do with phones with MTP (media transfer protocol) working under Linux or not
[00:42] <yofun> Okay..Im on ubuntu 14.04 now
[00:43] <yofun> But im still trying to figure out how to do wireless connections
[00:44] <Rohan-> We are fixing the worlds but meanwhile i like to get som inspiration... A local band that i like even though youll say its a Yolly Roger rip to some extent. Still cool right ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oww5kmOeBeE
[00:44] <TJ-> yofun: It'll "just work" provided the hardware has a F/OSS driver; without that you'll likely have to do some work to get a working driver installed and configured.
[00:45] <tripelb> daftykins: thanks for the texh heads up but that standa
[00:45] <yofun> TJ-:  two things. 1. where is the wireless networks list?
[00:46] <yofun> lshw -C network shows  description: Wireless interface        product: RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[00:46] <TJ-> yofun: top-right icons, click on the network icon
[00:46] <yofun> TJ-:  im not  on unity
[00:46] <tripelb> daftykins: thanks for the texh heads up. thought the M was MS and it was "theirs". am i wrong about the latter too?       i?
[00:47] <yofun> heh...someone has a triple AI bot in here (#triple I think)
[00:47] <TJ-> yofun: What are you using?
[00:47] <Rohan-> Quad
[00:47] <yofun> TJ-:  Im using LXDE
[00:47] <yofun> I did a mini.iso of ubuntu 13.04. Now I upgraded to ubuntu 14.04
[00:48] <daftykins> tripelb: yeah it's an open media transfer protocol that can be used on Linux, Mac and Windows
[00:48] <daftykins> tripelb: it's just that earlier ubuntu versions didn't yet have MTP support so such phones that use it wouldn't appear as a device you could browse the content of anymore
[00:48] <TJ-> yofun: does this help? http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html
[00:48] <Rohan-> TJ-: You arent TJ... Change nick.
[00:48] <yofun> TJ-:  lol Im not using lubuntu
[00:49] <yofun> that might help...doing it manually
[00:49] <yofun> TJ-:  Im looking into that now
[00:49] <tripelb> yofun: sorry if i am botlike. but maybe the LA or the tiny keyboard or Froyo is givi.g that impression.
[00:49] <TJ-> yofun: Yeah, that was my point
[00:49] <Rohan-> yofun: Are you having any fun ?
[00:49] <yofun> Rohan-:  not yet
[00:50] <yofun> Im sorry tripelb   you seemed like a bot I knew
[00:51] <Rohan-> Hush puppeh.
[00:51] <spaz> l
[00:51] <Rohan-> z
[00:52] <tripelb> daftykins: oh. oh well. i am installing the trusty LTS now. (The U(niverse gifyed me a UK samsung laptop and am putting in U(buntu now.
[00:52] <daftykins> tripelb: ah yes, the one you found. no luck contacting the owner still?
[00:53] <tripelb> daftykins: and discussing with Samaung re getting some media.
[00:53] <daftykins> tripelb: do you own a system capable of burning DVDs, or a 4GB+ USB flash drive?
[00:54] <Rohan-> So, is it correct of us to visit our old school to prevent small kids to mob a small girl ? ... We are on the boko-idiots btw.
[00:55] <tripelb> daftykins: 12.04 was early then.
[00:55] <daftykins> tripelb: yeah they narrowly missed out on supporting MTP with that i think
[00:56] <Rohan-> Sent a mail to the dean or whatever its called. I was always the head of things, but ive never seen these things. Do people really fair ill in our schools, well then we will adjust things.
[00:56] <RippSteakface> Folks, new to Conky here. Dropped new config text into .conkyrc and saved, then reloaded conky in terminal with "killall -SIGUSR1 conky" but it still displays the default conky setup - any idea what I might have done wrong?
[00:56] <daftykins> Rohan-: this is not the place for such conversations. please leave.
[00:58] <RippSteakface> I assume it's loading the setup based on another file but I'm not sure.
[00:59] <Rohan-> dafty: This comment is up to you, my friends are omnipresent.
[00:59] <bazhang> Rohan-, /quit
[00:59] <Rohan-> *^
[00:59] <Rohan-> Adequatum est nicht... You have much to learn.
[01:00] <marc_> Im running 14.04, 64bit, ubuntu. When I access my usb drive, specifically a large directory full of avi movies (the dir is about 200 gb) Nautilus goes greyscale and freezes.  What can I do to fix this?
[01:00] <yofun> hnnn
[01:00] <TJ-> marc_: disable thumbnail generation
[01:01] <marc_> TJ-, Anything else? And thank you.
[01:01] <TJ-> marc_: also, I believe there is an option to prevent scanning/thumbnailing of external drives (which are often on slower interfaces)
[01:01] <TJ-> marc_: But I don't use Nautilus now, so can't guide you on where the setting is
[01:02] <marc_> TJ-, thank you
[01:02] <RippSteakface> Anyone have help to my previous quetion?
[01:03] <thomedy_> msg NickServ IDENTIFY thomedy skateforhim
[01:03] <thomedy_> crap now i have to change my password
[01:03] <daftykins> thomedy_: hope you didn't do that on purpose.
[01:03] <thomedy_> nope
[01:03] <thomedy_> im just stupid
[01:03] <thomedy_> i forgot the /
[01:03] <thomedy_> im going to change my password now which is awesome
[01:03] <Rohan-> Ripp dude, what wrong with your face if so ?
[01:04] <thomedy_> di you guys see that
[01:04] <thomedy_> do i have to change my password again
[01:04] <thomedy_> that wouldn't make sense
[01:05] <pack^> change it
[01:06] <Rohan-> Definitely
[01:07] <yofun> Does any of this help troubleshoot my issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7427090/
[01:08] <Rohan-> yofun: What is the problem with that ?
[01:08] <yofun> Rohan-:  Im having issues connecting to wireless networks
[01:09] <Rohan-> yofun: If networkmanager is running... theres your problem.
[01:09] <elky> Rohan-: could you please not sit there being dismissive of people with problems. read the guidelines in the topic.
[01:09] <yofun> I dont see the "access points list" and such...Dont even know If I have a network manager that finds the wifi points
[01:10] <GridCube> how can i detect if its my GPU thats causing my computer to freeze and die?
[01:10] <Rohan-> elky: So then you will not require people like me or Linus ?
[01:10] <Rohan-> elky: Cool down if you please.
[01:11] <GridCube> its there a test i can make so i know if its that? i assume it is because everytime it fails is after i try to do something that uses a little bit of vide stuff
[01:11] <daftykins> elky: we're long past that, it's kicky time please.
[01:13] <RippSteakface> what's the terminal command to stop conky from running?
[01:13] <Beldar> several, I use killall for conky
[01:14] <does> I am running into this issue. https://unsee.cc/denomagi/ It happens sometimes when i resume from standby. How do I fix it?
[01:15] <RippSteakface> Beldar: Thanks!
[01:15] <happyfr0gg> Hello! How do I delete the history in Ubuntu Unity Dash???
[01:16] <does> I am using ubuntu gnome 12.04
[01:16] <rww> happyfr0gg: I believe there's a Privacy icon in System Settings. Try there.
[01:17] <happyfr0gg> rww - will do.  Thanks.
[01:17] <does> And I have the latest graphics driver.
[01:18] <Blue_Knight> does: What is your graphics card manufacturer?
[01:18] <does> Nvida
[01:18] <gusey> this is prob a dumb question but can i install gtk3 themes on xubuntu
[01:18] <GridCube> yes
[01:18] <Blue_Knight> gusey: Yes!
[01:18] <gusey> sweet
[01:18] <gusey> what does gtk3 mean
[01:18] <GridCube> ahahahaha
[01:19] <Blue_Knight> gusey: GTK version 3
[01:19] <Blue_Knight> does: What's the issue with your graphics card?
[01:19] <GridCube> gtk3 is the toolkit engine that draws the screens gusey
[01:19] <gusey> is it like xfce?
[01:19] <Blue_Knight> gusey: No.
[01:20] <gusey> brb
[01:20] <GridCube> gusey, xfce uses the gtk2 engine by default, but it can use the gtk3 engine for applications that require it
[01:20] <Blue_Knight> gusey: GTK is the toolkit, not the desktop environment itself...
[01:20] <gusey> ahh ok
[01:20] <does> Blue_Knight:  Look at Top of the picture https://unsee.cc/denomagi/
[01:20] <Rohan-> GTK pwnz
[01:20] <rww> gtk is superior to qt in only one respect: it is better at fragmentation and changing apis
[01:21] <GridCube> so where should i look to know if my gpu is failing?
[01:21] <MPY_mobile> as a programmer i cant abid3 gtk. Qt is just better.
[01:21] <Blue_Knight> does: From where did you install the driver?
[01:21] <Rohan-> Just like this interresting pice of thingy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrnsSdHpPws
[01:22] <does> Blue_Knight: The Additional Drivers program.
[01:23] <GridCube> i can't find any relevant logs
[01:23] <does> Blue_Knight:  It is driver version 304.
[01:24] <Blue_Knight> does: Is this the latest available there? I'm using 319.32 without issues...
[01:25] <does> Blue_Knight: Yes it is the latest one there,but I am double checking.
[01:26] <does> Blue_Knight:  i am running 12.04,are you running 14.04?
[01:26] <Blue_Knight> does: No, 13.10.
[01:27] <does> Blue_Knight: I know here are different drivers for different versions of ubuntu.
[01:27] <Blue_Knight> does: The additional drivers program gives me 3 choices: 173, 304 and 319...
[01:28] <Blue_Knight> does: Did you try disabling graphical effects?
[01:28] <does> Blue_Knight: Just a sec.
[01:29] <Blue_Knight> does: try disabling display compositing... If enabled.
[01:29] <does> Blue_Knight: Look at this. https://unsee.cc/ridozatu/ How do I disable display compositing?
[01:30] <Blue_Knight> does: Image does not exist.
[01:30] <does> Blue_Knight: oopps
[01:31] <does> Blue_Knight:  Here https://unsee.cc/pezobuga/
[01:32] <Blue_Knight> does: Alas, the images were deleted as requested.
[01:32] <does> Blue_Knight: Sorry,trying to fix that.
[01:33] <does> Blue_Knight: There!! https://unsee.cc/mizutena/
[01:33] <tswett> Ahoy. Just for fun, I'd like to make it so that when Ubuntu boots up, it starts two X sessions instead of one.
[01:33] <sovereignentity> I have a program called simple invoices it's a php program  with sql extensions how do I install this
[01:34] <does> Blue_Knight: Sorry about that.
[01:34] <tswett> Presumably there's some configuration file or script somewhere that tells X to start, and I could just edit that to tell it to start X twice. Right?
[01:34] <lucastt> http://pastebin.com/Zm3tLsJH
[01:34] <lucastt> wtf
[01:34] <tswett> Where would that file be?
[01:35] <tswett> sovereignentity: if it's written in PHP, then it sounds like it's probably a web application. Do you have a web server?
[01:35] <sovereignentity> tswett, no
[01:35] <tswett> sovereignentity: usually web applications are installed by businesses on their own web servers, and then users use the application by visiting the business's website.
[01:36] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: try ./adb
[01:36] <sovereignentity> I'll try to find another
[01:36] <lucastt> i've tried that Blue_Knight
[01:36] <lucastt> same error
[01:36] <tswett> I'm gonna reboot into Windows. Be back shortly.
[01:36] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: is it marked as executable? chmod +x
[01:37] <Rohan-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMH6X5XUYs (We will always be on your side). We have ideintified evils. We shall deal with them. I bid you a good night my friends.
[01:37] <lucastt> let me try
[01:37] <lucastt> i did chmod +x adb
[01:37] <lucastt> but when running it, same error
[01:38] <Rohan-> a+x ?
[01:38] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: don't forget to include full path to the file or ./ if in same directory
[01:38] <lucastt> i've tried with ./
[01:39] <lucastt> did chmod a+x adb too, same error
[01:39] <Rohan-> fopen() or what ?
[01:39] <lucastt> or is it +x +a?
[01:39] <lucastt> fopen?
[01:39] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: make sure you are in the same directory as the executable...
[01:39] <lucastt> i am
[01:39] <lucastt> as you can see in the log
[01:40] <Blue_Knight> ok
[01:40] <does> Ialso have another question. when  i boot,ever since  i installed gnome-desktop,my screen is black,then is says ubuntu for a second,then it goes back to black till the desktop is loaded. Is that a bug?
[01:40] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: is it a executable file?
[01:40] <lucastt> yes
[01:41] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: then try chmod 777
[01:41] <lucastt> ok
[01:41] <lucastt> same error
[01:41] <henry__> Hello
[01:42] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: If possible send the file...
[01:42] <lucastt> it's a file that comes in the android SDK
[01:42] <lucastt> but i'll upload it
[01:42] <rww> lucastt: just install android-tools-adb package?
[01:42] <lucastt> i tought that would come with the bundle?
[01:43] <Blue_Knight> does: I believe that is normal. Do you see a console blinking?
[01:44] <does> Blue_Knight: console blinking? What is that?
[01:44] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: That file may not be a Linux executable...
[01:44] <loveprofusion87> Does anyone know what this is about?  I've been streaming my desktop to connectcast.tv.  Today I installed some updates and then rebooted the computer and when I restart, avconv gives the following error whenever I try to stream:  [rtmp @ 0x8fccdc0] Cannot open connection tcp://stream.connectcast.tv:1935
[01:44] <loveprofusion87> rtmp://stream.connectcast.tv/live/loveprofusion87XXXXXXXXXXXX: Input/output error
[01:45] <lucastt> it came with the linux version but...
[01:45] <Blue_Knight> does: You said your screen goes black... Is it all black all you see a console char blinking?
[01:46] <does> Blue_Knight: No,it goes completely black,but the screen stays on.
[01:46] <Blue_Knight> does: What's your graphics card model?
[01:47] <happyfr0gg> I am back. The history or prior opened files are still showing in my Ubuntu Unity Dash. I installed activity-log-manager and used that but it did not work for me.
[01:48] <happyfr0gg> * of
[01:48] <does> Blue_Knight:  I think Nivida GE force 7200. i think
[01:48] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: You had to do chmod +x adb in that directory
[01:48] <lucastt> i did
[01:48] <happyfr0gg> I want to get rid of recently opened files (history) in Ubuntu Unity Dash.
[01:49] <Blue_Knight> and it says could not find file or directory...
[01:49] <Blue_Knight> Help anyone...? xD
[01:49] <UbuntuBoy> hey all
[01:49] <lucastt> ?
[01:50] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: Please send me that adb file if possible...
[01:50] <lucastt> i'm trying
[01:51] <lucastt> http://www.mediafire.com/download/o6ek5i3a1zhbq9c/adb
[01:51] <thomistic> when you press ctrl + alt + f1
[01:51] <thomistic> how do you get out of that mode?
[01:52] <Blue_Knight> CTRL+ALT+F7
[01:52] <thomistic> thx
[01:52] <Blue_Knight> Welcome!
[01:52] <happyfr0gg> I am trying to delete the history of recently opened files in Unity Dash. Is there a way to get rid of them?
[01:52] <maek> upstart question. If I make a foo.conf and place it in /etc/init can I then expect to run service foo start/stop etc
[01:52] <happyfr0gg> The usual methods are not working for me.
[01:52] <jcstarken> question about removing kde and gnome for 12.04 lts
[01:52] <lucastt> Blue_Knight, http://www.mediafire.com/download/o6ek5i3a1zhbq9c/adb
[01:52] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: I got it!
[01:53] <lucastt> oh, sorry
[01:54] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: It runs normal here...
[01:54] <lucastt> it should here too
[01:54] <lucastt> i have no idea why it doesn't
[01:54] <Blue_Knight> lucastt: Strange...
[01:55] <iko294> ls
[01:55] <UbuntuBoy> i have a quick question all, i had my cursor set to have the lil animated ring going around and for some reason every time i log in and out is goes away and i cant figure out how to get it back... i know this is prob a novice question and to remind all i have recently started using ubuntu 14.04 my question is how do i get that back... plz be easy one me as i am new to this.
[01:59] <UbuntuBoy> i have a quick question all, i had my cursor set to have the lil animated ring going around and for some reason every time i log in and out is goes away and i cant figure out how to get it back... i know this is prob a novice question and to remind all i have recently started using ubuntu 14.04 my question is how do i get that back... plz be easy one me as i am new to this.
[02:00] <does> So it is fine that my screen is black during boot? 12.04 has never seemed the best at showing the ubuntu logo wile booting. :P
[02:00] <does> UbuntuBoy: can you see yu mouse?
[02:00] <Blue_Knight> does: How many graphics card you have in your system?
[02:01] <does> Blue_Knight: 1
[02:01] <Blue_Knight> does: did you use another one before?
[02:01] <does> Blue_Knight: No
[02:01] <Blue_Knight> does: Could you try with your integrated graphics if possible?
[02:02] <does> Blue_Knight:  idon't have one.
[02:02] <Blue_Knight> does: How old is your computer?
[02:02] <does> 8 years
[02:03] <Blue_Knight> does: This can be the issue...
[02:03] <stree> some hw issue, i used cm in windows, and now it work
[02:04] <does> Blue_Knight: Why is that an issue?
[02:04] <stree> the video driver issue
[02:05] <Blue_Knight> does: have you tried to re-insert your graphics card? I would try to clean the contacts...
[02:05] <does> Blue_Knight: I have an 11 year old computer that doesn't have a problem.
[02:05] <stree> a year late lol
[02:06] <does> Blue_Knight: No I have not.
[02:06] <stree> no its not part of the science fiction trilogy
[02:08] <does> Blue_Knight: If it happens again,i will re seat it.
[02:09] <stree> a seat wave? sounds like you saying being
[02:09] <does> stree: ?
[02:10] <Blue_Knight> does: Then you mean it was good before?
[02:11] <does> Blue_Knight:  ihave not had a problem till a couple weeks ago.
[02:14] <does> Goodnight everyone!!
[02:14] <stree> goodnight all
[02:19] <verodeb> hi
[02:19] <stree> hi everyone
[02:19] <verodeb> is it possible to recover files from a database cluster directory with photorec?
[02:19] <stree> on them up with photorec
[02:20] <Blue_Knight> hi
[02:22] <jcstarken> KDE removal is needed getting system errors after install, have done all the commands I can find to remove it yet still folders and logout screen is still kde
[02:24] <holstein> jcstarken: you have use what commands to change from the kdm greeter?
[02:25] <jcstarken> holstein: the last one I just ran was really long going to restart and see if I got it all this time. Thank you for the reply brb
[02:28] <Blue_Knight> oi, felipe!
[02:32] <jcstarken> holstein: I got it but did to good a job some how I removed spotify and chrome to lol
[02:33] <holstein> jcstarken: not likely.. probably just removed the shortcuts, or dont have them made where you are
[02:36] <jcstarken> holstein:  nope they are gone. no biggie as long as I dont get any more system errors I am good
[02:36] <holstein> jcstarken: not likely, friend.. unless you unistalled them..
[02:37] <minetop> jcstarken: Hey punk
[02:37] <stree> whats new daft punk is awesome
[02:37] <jcstarken> minetop: is who
[02:37] <holstein> be sure to use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[02:45] <ipow> kd
[02:45] <ipow> o povo
[02:45] <Blue_Knight> Oi
[02:46] <holstein> !pt
[02:46] <Blue_Knight> Please, english only!
[02:47] <Blue_Knight> !en
[02:49] <nick0R0> hello
[02:50] <Blue_Knight> Hi, nick!
[02:54] <mk3548208> hi,how to remount /srv on ubuntu
[02:55] <daftykins> mk3548208: remount as what?
[02:55] <holstein> mk3548208: what is that? something that is mounted as /srv?
[02:55] <mk3548208> when I run libvirtd,there is error that cannot check dnsmasq binary dnsmasq
[02:56] <Ben64> mk3548208: pastebin the error
[02:58] <mk3548208> Ben64:2014-05-10 02:57:34.415+0000: 3953: error : dnsmasqCapsRefreshInternal:726 : Cannot check dnsmasq binary dnsmasq: No such file or directory
[02:58] <Ben64> ok and how does that relate to /srv at all
[02:58] <holstein> mk3548208: what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:03] <mk3548208> holstein, I compiled libvirt,when i run it,it reported "cannot dnsmasq binary dnsmasq",the answer from "http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-virtualization-and-cloud-90/issues-with-libvirt-cuckoo-and-dnsmasq-4175492756/",but i dont know how to do remount /srv
[03:03] <holstein> nick0R0: why? where are you getting your version from?
[03:04] <holstein> !mount
[03:09] <Blue_Knight> !ipconfig
[03:10] <Blue_Knight> !sudo
[03:10] <Blue_Knight> !cli
[03:10] <Blue_Knight> !cd
[03:10] <Blue_Knight> !dvd
[03:10] <Blue_Knight> !bluray
[03:11] <Blue_Knight> !vhs
[03:12] <Ben64> Blue_Knight: please private message the bot if you want to do that
[03:13] <Blue_Knight> Oh, Ben64. I didn't know it was publicly visible.
[03:18] <NeedWeez1> Noob question: I am trying to install a vpn client and it is a .tgz file. How do I go about installing this?
[03:19] <holstein> !vpn
[03:19] <holstein> NeedWeez1: can you use something from the repos?
[03:19] <NeedWeez1> lol....awesome. I will read up first.
[03:20] <NeedWeez1> holstein: I am attempting to use the same client my company has offered for our Windows machines
[03:20] <NeedWeez1> cause I have the profile I thought it would be easier, but I will look at the repos as well.
[03:20] <holstein> NeedWeez1: i would just try something that is included, and intended to work in linux, and well supported
[03:21] <holstein> NeedWeez1: otherwise, you'll need to ask them about what is required, just as in windows
[03:21] <NeedWeez1> holstein: sorry, I should have clarified. It is the same client, but the linux version.
[03:21] <NeedWeez1> That probably goes without saying, but wanted to make that clear
[03:21] <holstein> NeedWeez1: could be as simple as uncompressing that file..  and running it.. could be much  more complex..
[03:21] <NeedWeez1> Im not quite that noobish...lol
[03:22] <aidalgol> Line 1 of http://paste.grml.org/1981/ does not seem to be having any effect.  How would I go about troubleshooting udev rules?  Where does udev send log messages?
[03:23] <NeedWeez1> holstein: that's kind of what I am afraid of. I use Ubuntu cause I like it and want to learn more, but I do not pretend to know a ton about linux operations.
[03:23] <aidalgol> oh, wait, /var/log/udev
[03:23] <holstein> NeedWeez1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/262068/how-to-extract-a-tar-gz-file
[03:24] <NeedWeez1> holstein: FREAKING SWEET! Thanks a ton. I will read the info you guys have provided. Thanks again.
[03:24] <holstein> NeedWeez1: sure.. but the operation you are trying to do is to install a package that is not supported by the core of ubuntu.. so, the creator of the file supports it.. if you have not uncompressed it, do that and see if there is documentation
[03:24] <NeedWeez1> holstein: 10-4
[03:24] <holstein> NeedWeez1: otherwise, just use openvpn client.. its arguably "better" for you in linux, and will recieve updates, and be easier.. etc
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> aren't openvpn client profiles in a tgz?
[03:25] <SchrodingersScat> er, can be anyway
[03:25] <holstein> NeedWeez1: ^ it could be that..
[03:25] <NeedWeez1> holstein: good info here guys. Thanks.
[03:26] <holstein> NeedWeez1: cheers.. and goog luck
[03:26] <holstein> good*
[03:31] <ajrty33> Power user here.
[03:32] <Blue_Knight> Hi!
[03:32] <meccooll> It looks like my changes in xorg.conf take no effect, does that gui Dispay settings in ~/.config/monitors.xml override it?
[03:49] <Georg> anybody online who knows how to set up a customized grub2 entry in ubuntu 14.04 server (i want to have an entry for ttylinux which boots to ram)
[03:50] <Blue_Knight> Georg: What kind of action you want to put there?
[03:50] <therev> Anyone here hack? :)
[03:50] <holstein> !grub
[03:50] <Blue_Knight> therev: No.
[03:51] <lrcaballero> therev: define hack..
[03:51] <Georg> Blue_Knight: my goal to be able to boot ttylinux to ram. I have an instruction for lilo but not for grub2
[03:51] <therev> XSS,ddos,
[03:51] <Georg> http://www.ttylinux.net/Documents/multi/node25.html <-- instruction for lilo
[03:51] <Ben64> Georg: doesn't really seem like an issue for #ubuntu
[03:52] <holstein> Georg: lilo is still an option, if you prefer
[03:52] <Blue_Knight> therev: That's not hack.
[03:52] <Georg> it's actually a grub2 issue but there isn't a grub2 channel. I'm using ubuntu server14.04, that's the reason why I'm here
[03:53] <holstein> Georg: the grub link i gave will help you customize as needed
[03:53] <Ben64> Georg: but it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:53] <meccooll> back, It looks like my changes in xorg.conf take no effect, does that gui Dispay settings in ~/.config/monitors.xml override it?
[03:53] <Georg> thank you guys :) I will check the link
[03:54] <Georg> sorry for asking in the ubuntu channel
[03:55] <Georg> and about lilo: will it update within ubuntu after a kernel update by itself like grub2?
[03:55] <Georg> sorry for asking maybe silly questions
[03:56] <zhjawe1> Hi,Plz to ask a question,my video card is ATI R6XX,OS is ubuntu 14.04,there was no sound when i update my system today
[03:57] <Georg> I think the link to the grub2 page is very helpful, thanks!
[03:57] <Blue_Knight> Welcome!
[03:58] <neps> hi all
[03:58] <zhjawe1> Does any others to encount the error?
[03:58] <Notit> evening
[03:58] <ubuntuser13> hello!
[03:58] <neps> where can i find kickstart files
[03:58] <neps> for ubuntu
[03:59] <Blue_Knight> What error, zchaev?
[04:00] <holstein> zhjawe1: can you boot an older kernel and get audio? this is HDMI audio?
[04:01] <meccooll> any help for me?
[04:01] <Guest68684> i need to chat with a musician
[04:01] <meccooll> zhjawe1, and what drivers?
[04:01] <Blue_Knight> Guest68684: Professional or amateur?
[04:02] <holstein> Guest68684: you can come back to #ubuntu-studio and chat.. this is not chat
[04:02] <Blue_Knight> It is for support chat
[04:02] <zhjawe1> meccooll: opensource driver about amd/ati display card
[04:02] <zhjawe1> default drivre
[04:03] <zhjawe1> default driver
[04:03] <IcemanV9> !kickstart | neps
[04:03] <neps> ok
[04:04] <neps> why no kickstart Icemanv9
[04:04] <holstein> zhjawe1: please try the older kernel in your list and see if the audio returns.. is this HDMI audio?
[04:04] <treats> how can I install lamp w/o any prompts?
[04:04] <owh> treats: What do you mean, w/o prompts?
[04:05] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:05] <treats> i get prompted for admin passwords and stuff -- i can't have that
[04:05] <Brumble> Hi :)
[04:05] <neps> good question treats
[04:05] <treats> i'll have to do it post install
[04:05] <IcemanV9> neps: it is kickstart if you look into it
[04:05] <owh> treats: Uhm. Become root first? I'm not sure what you're trying to do.
[04:05] <treats> by admin passwords, I mean for mysql etc, not for root
[04:05] <silv3r_m00n> in synaptic > settings > repositories opens a different dialog box if software-properties-gtk is not installed
[04:06] <neps> treats: use sudo apt-get install package1 package2 ....  -y
[04:06] <owh> treats: That's because they're required to protect the database.
[04:06] <treats> owh: I need to protect it after the install
[04:06] <silv3r_m00n> does this software-properties-gtk run its own daemon to check for updates ?
[04:06] <owh> treats: That makes no sense to me.
[04:07] <Brumble> This is cool there is an IRC channel for ubuntu
[04:07] <owh> neps I'd be surprised if the -n allows for empty passwords.
[04:07] <neps> coming back to yesterday conversation would it not be nice to have a cool man pages on the browser
[04:07] <neps> as a website
[04:07] <treats> i'll refine what I am trying to do and get back...
[04:07]  * owh seems to recall that this does exist neps
[04:07] <treats> basically, build a docker image that requires lamp.
[04:07] <owh> treats: docker?
[04:08] <neps> what is docker how is it different from vagrant
[04:08] <treats> it's self-sufficient runtime for linux containers
[04:08] <IcemanV9> neps: try http://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[04:08] <Blue_Knight> vagrant is the formal way
[04:08] <neps> also if you can tell me what is linuxcontainers
[04:08] <neps> that would be great
[04:08] <treats> what is vagrant and how is it different from docker :p
[04:09] <treats> brb research
[04:09] <Brumble> Hey do you guys know a good .xml editor for ubuntu :)
[04:09] <owh> treats: I'm not familiar with docker. But if it's an image, can you not just manually install LAMP and then image it?
[04:10] <owh> treats: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7739645/install-mysql-on-ubuntu-without-password-prompt
[04:15] <Brumble> every body got quiet
[04:15] <Blue_Knight> It is because talking is forbidden here.
[04:16] <Brumble> :O Is it really
[04:16] <SpecialEd> Communication will not be tolerated.
[04:16] <Blue_Knight> !rules
[04:16] <holstein> chat in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel is welcome
[04:16] <meccooll> zhjawe1, to enable it one may pass the kernel parameter:radeon.audio=1  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver looks like it's unstable
[04:17] <Brumble> Ok thanks I did not know.
[04:17] <SpecialEd> Hey everybody, I've recently been having troubles with my 4x physical Ubuntu 14.04LTS 64bit servers' SSH sessions abruptly terminating on me when I paste more than 5-10 lines of text from my local PC into nano on the the server. Has anyone ever heard of this issue before? Happens on multiple SSH clients running from multiple OS's and systems that I've tried.
[04:17] <SpecialEd> Also at the same time I'm unable to sftp any files, it authenticates but when I start the transfer it errors out and the connection dies./
[04:18] <holstein> SpecialEd: i would test locally, with the same version.. see if its not the location, or your network, or some leg
[04:19] <treats> I just used the apt-get -qq
[04:19] <treats> that worked perfect, for the record
[04:19] <treats> thanks guys, owh
[04:19] <SpecialEd> holstein: the servers are all in a data-center on the same subnet, so I guess I can remote into one and try both situations from there. Also I just wanted to mention that I did ufw disable just to rule that out
[04:20] <holstein> SpecialEd: that doesnt remove you and your network connection from the equation, but that sounds like a start
[04:21] <SpecialEd> holstein: also, just to clarify what I was saying, I have 2x i7 haswell systems here, one is running windoze and the other is ubuntu. issue exists on both local machines
[04:21] <SpecialEd> holstein: ill try to VNC into one without remote clipboard
[04:21] <forevertheuni> hi, I set my bios to legacy boot to try to boot from my old system in usb. When I turned it back....it goes to windows default and I have to press the boot F9 key to have ubuntu option. This didn't happen after I installed ubuntu..how can I restore grub to default? tnx
[04:21] <holstein> SpecialEd: sure.. but, you could be running either *not* ubuntu, but a "datacenter" version of ubuntu that is broken, or have something misconfigured, or compromised
[04:22] <SpecialEd> forevertheuni: what OS did you install first, Windows or Ubuntu?
[04:22] <forevertheuni> windows was there first.
[04:22] <forevertheuni> oem
[04:22] <forevertheuni> and then I installed ubuntu with a boot partition and LVM
[04:22] <SpecialEd> holstein: nah, I installed it myself using the regular server iso, im lucky enough to have ipkvm on each of them :)
[04:22] <forevertheuni> and it booted grub first after that installation
[04:22] <holstein> SpecialEd: and added what desktop?
[04:23] <SpecialEd> holstein: xfce4
[04:23] <SpecialEd> forevertheuni: ok thats the right way then, that way you have MBR which is good, otherway around would not be fun
[04:23] <forevertheuni> I restored EFI
[04:23] <forevertheuni> and now windows boots by default
[04:24] <SpecialEd> forevertheuni: im assuming its grub2 right?
[04:24] <forevertheuni> yes
[04:24] <forevertheuni> grub-installl /dev/wherebootis?
[04:24] <SpecialEd> 12.04?
[04:24] <forevertheuni> 14.04
[04:25] <forevertheuni> well I hope it works.
[04:25] <SpecialEd> forevertheuni: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[04:26] <SpecialEd> ^ that looks like a really simple way to shift around the boot order
[04:26] <Hadron2> Good evening.
[04:26] <forevertheuni> lol.  but the computer is not going to grub2 by default
[04:26] <forevertheuni> that's my problem :p
[04:26] <SpecialEd> oohhhhh my bad
[04:26] <SpecialEd> mbr hijacked it on ya
[04:26] <SpecialEd> ok
[04:27] <forevertheuni> I did grub-install /dev/sda6 and it's taking forever now
[04:27] <SpecialEd> its post vista windows right? like vista 7 server2008r2 win8?
[04:27] <forevertheuni> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[04:27] <forevertheuni> I should just have transformed my old disk to EFI :p
[04:27] <SpecialEd> sorry, i shoulda said, it wasn't xp was it?
[04:28] <Hadron2> I am trying to build a a KVM Host using VLAN-Bridges on a Bond. The bond comes up OK, as does the non-VLAN bridge for Management.
[04:28] <forevertheuni> new computer 8.1
[04:28] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair is what i use, though, i would read up on grup and uefi
[04:28] <holstein> !uefi
[04:28] <Hadron2> The VLAN bridges come up, but will not pass traffic. I see "VLANs not supported on bond0" in syslog.
[04:28] <forevertheuni> I'm installing boot-repair now actually holstein
[04:28] <forevertheuni> :)
[04:29] <Hadron2> Config is EXACTLY the same as I have running on a couple 13.04 hosts that are working without flaw.
[04:29] <Hadron2> Trying to build the same setup on 14.04 before comitting to upgrading the rest, and am getting nowhere.
[04:29] <Hadron2> Any pointers?
[04:30] <Austneal> I've been trying to make a live USB for the past 2 hours, and have been failing consistantly....
[04:30] <Austneal> Apparently the recommended program just doesnt work... can anyone suggest another one?
[04:30] <holstein> Austneal: it should take less than 10 minutes.. try unetbootin or just dd without a program like that
[04:30] <dino82> Austneal: Windows?
[04:31] <Austneal> Im in windows now
[04:31] <Hadron2> I've been scouring google for the last 12 hours and haven't found anything recent or relevant.
[04:31] <Austneal> I tried unetbootin
[04:31] <dino82> I like Rufus
[04:31] <Austneal> tried Universal USB Installer
[04:31] <Austneal> both failed
[04:31] <SpecialEd> forevertheuni: ok so you got the whole srp partition and all that nonsense too
[04:31] <SpecialEd> foreverthuni: try this: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[04:31] <dino82> Try rufus http://rufus.akeo.ie/
[04:31] <SpecialEd> foreverthuni: http://theeduzone.net/theeduzone1/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/changinbootorderinubuntu10.png
[04:32] <Austneal> Its really aggrivating... I've never had this much trouble making a live usb before
[04:32] <forevertheuni> tnx for the tips dudes
[04:33] <forevertheuni> or dudettes :p
[04:33] <SpecialEd> as of the last time I looked down I was still a dude :P
[04:33] <daniel> hey
[04:33] <forevertheuni> :)
[04:34] <daftykins> Austneal: what's going wrong?
[04:34] <SpecialEd> holstein: Im having a friend try from his PC into my server now to see if his SSH session terminates as well, that'll be interesting
[04:34] <daftykins> they just don't boot?
[04:34] <Austneal> When I used unetbootin, computer just didnt recognize it as a bootable disk. With the other, it recognized it, but gave an error
[04:34] <Austneal> error was "Can not mount /dev/loop0"
[04:34] <Guest65005> im having a wierd problem, i just intalled 14.04 on my stock clevo w740su laptop and I have a constant noise from my speakers, almost like dialup tones but all the time
[04:35] <holstein> Austneal: you should confirm the md5 summ for the download as well..
[04:35] <holstein> !md5
[04:36] <Austneal> Ive redownloaded the image twice now as well... I really don't think its that
[04:36] <holstein> Guest65005: sometimes i have heard odd hard drive noises there.. is this a machine that you know well?
[04:36] <daftykins> Austneal: nuke the drive properly with a full format then write it again
[04:36] <dino82> Tried a different USB port?
[04:36] <holstein> Austneal: it takes much less time that you have spent, then you will *know*
[04:36] <Guest65005> yes, i am running from a ssd
[04:36] <Austneal> daftykins, unacceptable
[04:36] <daftykins> Austneal: what's unacceptable about that?
[04:36] <Austneal> holstein, one sec and Ill check it
[04:37] <holstein> Austneal: just to clarify, you *have* tried other USB ports, correct?
[04:37] <Austneal> oh, the usb drive... I've done that
[04:37] <Austneal> and yes, holstein :P
[04:37] <SpecialEd> holstein: My friend doesn't have the issue, plus I just found that if I paste a lot of text into my private irc network running on that server, my IRC session dies.  The issue is my local internet connection, thanks for leading this dumb camel to water...
[04:38] <Guest65005> it made this noise when i open installation from my usb drive too
[04:38] <holstein> SpecialEd: good luck troubleshooting and getting it sorted.. cheers
[04:38] <Guest65005> i was hoping it would go away after install was complete
[04:38] <Austneal> holstein, checking the sum now
[04:39] <Austneal> holstein, checksums match
[04:40] <holstein> Austneal: you have tried other sticks?
[04:40] <Austneal> I only have one
[04:40] <Austneal> But it worked before with an old live image
[04:40] <Hadron2> Can anyone point me to some GOOD docs on how to properly set up bond->bridge->VLAN for running virtual machines on Trusty?
[04:40] <Austneal> linux mint 13, actually
[04:40] <holstein> Austneal: all i can say is, they work for me, with unet, or dd... really whatever i throw at them.. though, sometimes, i'll have a stick that wont work, or is dying
[04:41] <holstein> Hadron2: no.. you'll likely need the server mailing list for that question
[04:41] <Austneal> holstein, dd?
[04:41] <Hadron2> holstein: OK. Thanks.
[04:41] <holstein> Austneal: if you have not tried dd copying the iso, consider it..
[04:41] <Austneal> what is it?
[04:41] <Guest65005> any ideas on how best to debugg my audio issue? muting the sound will make it go awway but obv then i cant hear anything
[04:41] <dino82> I know how to do the bond->bridge-VLAN like the back of my hand on redhat, but no idea on ubuntu
[04:42] <holstein> Guest65005: you may not have an audio issue.. you may have a hardware issue.. id try and just mute and test.. have you applied all upgrades?
[04:43] <Austneal> holstein, I'm on windows at the moment... I'm trying to install linux
[04:43] <user123321> In terminal, when I enter: chown -R user:group OpenGTS_2.5.5
[04:43] <Austneal> I guess I just can't use DD
[04:43] <user123321> I get chown: invalid user: `user:group'
[04:43] <user123321> Could somebody help?
[04:43] <dino82> What user are you inputting
[04:43] <Hadron2> dino82: I've got a stack of them running flawlessly on 13.10. I tried to configure Trusty ising the exact same config and it fails miserably.
[04:43] <holstein> Austneal: no.. you can do what you like, but dd is not included in windows.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-iso-to-a-usb-device
[04:43] <Ben64> user123321: unless your user is called "user" and your group is called "group" you're doing it wrong
[04:43] <Guest65005> audio has been working perfectly on windows 7 though
[04:43] <crf> Hi. I have Ubuntu and logged in to Unity session. But I can only logout using ctrl-alt-delete. There is a little gear icon on the top, along with some other icons, all greyed out. and when I click the gear icon, I can't switch user, and I don't have any option to log out.
[04:44] <Guest65005> checking upgrade
[04:44] <Austneal> Im just soooo aggrivated
[04:44] <user123321> Even when  I enter chown -R user:$USER OpenGTS_2.5.5
[04:44] <user123321> Same error :/ invalid user:[my username] or something
[04:44] <Ben64> user123321: because you probably don't have a user called "user"
[04:44] <holstein> Austneal: i hear you are furstrated, but it still can be a bad stick, or an issue with the stick.. since you have not tested with another stick
[04:44] <Ben64> user123321: explain fully what you're trying to do
[04:45] <dino82> What is the exact command you are inputting, user123321
[04:45] <Austneal> Its not the stick... it has to be something I'm doing wrong
[04:45] <holstein> Austneal: you dont know its not the stick
[04:45] <Austneal> Im 90% certain its not
[04:45] <user123321> chown -R user:$USER OpenGTS_2.5.5
[04:45] <holstein> Austneal: sure. and, as i said, you dont know
[04:45] <Austneal> I literally just booted from it before wiping it
[04:45] <user123321>  chown -R user:group OpenGTS_2.5.5
[04:46] <holstein> Austneal: the *all* fail
[04:46] <user123321> I'm installing OpenGTS
[04:46] <dino82> user123321: does 'user' exist?  'id user' ?
[04:46] <user123321> Manual says to do it.
[04:46] <holstein> they*
[04:46] <user123321> How can I know?
[04:46] <Ben64> user123321: you'll probably want to use your user and group instead of "user" and "group"
[04:47] <Ben64> user123321: and be careful with compiling software, you can break stuff in your system blindly following instructions like that
[04:47] <Austneal> ah ha!
[04:47] <Austneal> holstein, stick is formatted NTFS. Think that would throw it off?
[04:48] <Ben64> Austneal: yes
[04:48] <holstein> Austneal: i use unetbooting with fat
[04:48] <user123321> Ah this worked: sudo chown -R $USER OpenGTS_2.5.5
[04:48] <holstein> Austneal: you shouldnt use ntfs, AFAIK.. that is the issue
[04:48] <dan_> hello
[04:48] <Austneal> holstein, Just realized that... formatting to FAT and trying again
[04:48] <user123321> Ben64: Ah I see.
[04:48] <Austneal> wish me luck
[04:48] <Guest20488> im back, i've check and installed all updates - same issue
[04:49] <Guest20488> with audio
[04:50] <holstein> Guest20488: sure.. you have opened alsamixer? and tweaked all settings? trust no labels..
[04:50] <Guest20488> you can hear the audio problem even with headhones
[04:50] <user123321> Oh no, "/usr/local/OpenGTS_2.5.5/build.xml:2053: Compile failed; see the compiler error output for details." :(
[04:50] <user123321> Where is the compile error output? in terminal?
[04:51] <Ben64> user123321: unfortunately we can't help you with compiling software. seek support from whoever makes that software
[04:51] <holstein> user123321: what are you trying to do? can you find a repo application to do what you are looking for?
[04:51] <Austneal> user123321, can I pm you?
[04:51] <Guest56767> Hello
[04:52] <Blue_Knight> Hello!
[04:52] <user123321> Ah I see, thanks.
[04:52] <Blue_Knight> If you see then you aren't blind. FACT!
[04:52] <Blue_Knight> !touch
[04:58] <Guest20488> hey holtien, when i play ith those settings in alsamixer all it does is change the tone from my speakers
[04:59] <holstein> Guest20488: ok.. but, you are affecting it. so, you may want to play around, before you file the bug upstream with alsa
[04:59] <petrhbr> if I care about performance in games, is an nvidia graphics card with the binary driver still the way to go?
[04:59] <thomedy_> ls
[05:00] <Guest20488> however when i mute it from alsamixer it does not mute anything - only when i mute from desktop env
[05:00] <thomedy_> how come my disk drive/dvd player/ wont recognize disks unless it wants to..
[05:00] <Blue_Knight> petrhbr, the nvidia driver is the best choice available. Why? Because it is the only one.
[05:00] <thomedy_> it feels like my computer is a morning person because my dvds' only play in the morning when i cant watch them
[05:01] <holstein> thomedy_: sounds like failing hardware...
[05:01] <thomedy_> but like right now my kids are asleep and i want to watch a movie while i get work done and i cant get the disk to show up in my dash thingy
[05:01] <Guest20488> hey, what do you guys think of the raspberry pi?
[05:01] <thomedy_> to be honest i may be wrong but  i doubt it... i cant be certain but is this a common thing
[05:01] <thomedy_> does ubuntu not recognize dvd's often
[05:02] <lois_fikom> hello
[05:02] <lois_fikom> Is there someone who would help me?
[05:03] <Blue_Knight> Yes
[05:03] <owh> thomedy_: That depends on the "encryption" used on the DVD.
[05:03] <user123321> How do you increase the terminal history memory so that I could scroll up and see more lines?
[05:03] <owh> !ask | lois_fikom
[05:03] <lois_fikom> hi Blue
[05:03] <shadowe989> lois_fikom, tell us what you need help with and someone might be able to help :)
[05:04] <lois_fikom> oke
[05:04] <thomedy_> like the disk will show and then it wont... same disk... i have to be honest with myself... that statement makes me think hardware... but it doesn't make sense to me that that would be the case because this isn't to old of a laptop
[05:05] <lois_fikom> How to update bios in ubuntu?
[05:05] <owh> thomedy_: Sometimes DVD's map drive sectors into infinite loops which upsets a computer, but not a dumb DVD player.
[05:06] <thomedy_> suggestions?
[05:06] <owh> lois_fikom: Often the hardware manufacturer will supply a boot .iso file which you can boot and update the firmware.
[05:07] <lois_fikom> I am using a Notebook PC using a Hewlett-Packard became the default Ubuntu operating system
[05:08] <thomedy_> i could do region set maybe i saw that in my research
[05:09] <owh> thomedy_: Most modern players are region independent AFAIK.
[05:09] <thomedy_> .... i really dont want to leave the room im in to watch a movie and work some where else... i can... but this will stil be unresolved
[05:10] <thomedy_> im using vlc and it is 2.1.3 or 2.1.2
[05:10] <lois_fikom> Latest version of the BIOS is already available, but I do not know how to execute it.
[05:10] <thomedy_> let me update maybe tha twill help
[05:10] <thomedy_> im going to update upgrade and see if that helps
[05:10] <thomedy_> it has been a problem every time
[05:10] <thomedy_> i think 12 is the last time my ubuntu vlc has worked
[05:10] <holstein> lois_fikom: do you need it? most folks dont update unless soemthing is broken, or its a security risk
[05:11] <Ninjawarrior> Hi guys, Ive been researching possible reasons that could explain why Ubuntu is running slow as a VMware guest. It seems Unity requires direct access to GPU. Does anyone have advice or solution to speed up the guest?
[05:12] <holstein> lois_fikom: the manufacturer would provide you with a tool, which usuallly are made for running from a linux desktop, but maybe a standalone bootable image that would flash the bios
[05:12] <holstein> Ninjawarrior: you can try something other than unity.. test with xfce for example
[05:13] <Blue_Knight> xfce is light, very light :)
[05:13] <Blue_Knight> not as light as FLTK...
[05:13] <Ninjawarrior> holstein, nope because I really like unity for desktop management
[05:13] <Ninjawarrior> I have a feeling it is because I have very little freespace
[05:13] <Ninjawarrior> about 900MB
[05:14] <forevertheuni> damn it. repair-boot didn't work
[05:14] <forevertheuni> I still have to hit F9 to get "ubuntu" option
[05:14] <forevertheuni> that leads to grub
[05:14] <Ninjawarrior> After running the followin command it tells me 3d support and rendering is all enabled properly:  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[05:14] <holstein> Ninjawarrior: test with xfce and see.. hard drive space, nor ram will help with the graphics issue
[05:15] <holstein> forevertheuni: that sounds acceptable..
[05:16] <lois_fikom> I see through their official pages, but only available for Windows operating systems.
[05:16] <holstein> lois_fikom: sure.. they may only provide a tool for windows.. ask them
[05:16] <Guest20488> hey
[05:16] <Guest20488> so
[05:16] <Guest20488> i fund some info
[05:16] <lois_fikom> Is it safe if I run it through WINE?
[05:16] <Guest20488> on my audio issue
[05:17] <Guest20488> if i ENABLE loopback mixing my speakers completly turn off
[05:17] <holstein> lois_fikom: i wouldnt.. not sure if i would even test it.. but, again.. do you need the new bios? are you trying to fix something? or address a security concern?
[05:17] <forevertheuni> holstein: well it's not when I boot to a shitty os by default...windoze
[05:18] <Guest20488> it has the same behavior as muting
[05:18] <holstein> forevertheuni: if you can boot both, that sounds resonable..
[05:19] <forevertheuni> thing is when I installed ubuntu. I didn't have this problem
[05:19] <holstein> forevertheuni: sure.. you "Fixed" the windows boot..
[05:19] <forevertheuni> maybe I can remove the boot flag from windows EFI
[05:19] <forevertheuni> and it will go to grub?
[05:20] <holstein> forevertheuni: you can install grub, and replace the windows boot loader.. but the uefi bios may not like that.. if you have boot restrictions, and are able to boot both os's, i think thats OK
[05:21] <forevertheuni> I could always reinstall ubuntu lol
[05:21] <forevertheuni> it worked the firs time
[05:21] <lois_fikom> No problem, but I just wanted to improve the old version bios be the latest bios version.
[05:22] <holstein> forevertheuni: you can just install grub to the place you prefer it.. where the default installer installs it
[05:22] <forevertheuni> ohhh..the fat32 partition?
[05:22] <holstein> lois_fikom: sure. and that may not be the case.. there may be no improvements. it may be that you break the system
[05:22] <forevertheuni> I guess I could swap them.
[05:26] <Austneal> Holstein still there? Got it to work
[05:26] <holstein> Austneal: cool.. enjoy
[05:26] <Austneal> Ive got a ton of other problems now though >.<
[05:26] <savid> What can I do if my system has a runaway process, and everything freezes except switching vt's?
[05:27] <Austneal> No sound, no WiFi, and can't click on anything :/
[05:27] <holstein> savid: kill the process? ps aux | grep whatever
[05:27] <thomedy_> if i dmesg you guys can you help me figure this video thing out
[05:28] <savid> I saw my memory monitor climb but it was too late. Tried Ctrl+alt+f1, logged in, but not getting a shell.
[05:28] <holstein> savid: might be nothing, then.. id try and wait a bit
[05:29] <helmut_> hi
[05:29] <savid> holstein: it's been like 15 min. Can still log into a VT but shell doesn't start.
[05:30] <hmagoo> savid, isn't ctrl-alt-f2 where you can get a shell?
[05:30] <holstein> savid: might have to hard restart :/ ..what process?
[05:33] <neps> why do we use LVM  or when do we use LVM install type
[05:34] <Ninjawarrior> holstein, I fixed the issue by configuring some of the Vmware settings
[05:34] <Ninjawarrior> my problem was the number of cores I had set
[05:36] <Ninjawarrior> I have 1 more problem with my ubuntu installation. I want to make sda bigger as Ive run out of space
[05:36] <Ninjawarrior> I dont understand why ubuntu is 20GB why did it get so big
[05:36] <holstein> Ninjawarrior: i use gparted from a live CD to resize partitions
[05:37] <Ninjawarrior> holstein, Ive tried gparted live cd program but encountered a problem.
[05:37] <Ninjawarrior> the problem was the additional allocated space is on sdb
[05:37] <MPY_mobile> Ninjawarrior: there is a disk space analyser included. then you can also use bleachbit to clear system files safelu.
[05:37] <Ninjawarrior> its a vmware infrastructure
[05:38] <Ninjawarrior> MPY_mobile, Ill do some analysis on that now
[05:39] <Ninjawarrior> it says /   9.9GB / 18.9GB
[05:39] <Ninjawarrior> hmm, I recently emptied the recycle bin it must have cleared 9GB
[05:39] <Ninjawarrior> wow
[05:40] <MPY_mobile> The 'disk usage analyzer' will tell you how that space is used.
[05:40] <Ninjawarrior> go tit open now MPY_mobile
[05:40] <Ninjawarrior> it says I have 9GB left
[05:41] <MPY_mobile> click that for a breakdown  by folder
[05:42] <Ninjawarrior> can you guys confirm the unity search feature is really slow on your systems also?
[05:42] <Ninjawarrior> it lags
[05:42] <MPY_mobile> turn off web search
[05:42] <forevertheuni> well efibootmgr
[05:43] <forevertheuni> the boot order is set to windows first :) I can change with that
[05:44] <Ninjawarrior> MPY_mobile, yeah it seems web search feature is enabled
[05:45] <Ninjawarrior> looking for a way to disable it
[05:45] <Ninjawarrior> is it 'More suggestions'?
[05:45] <Ninjawarrior> More suggestions, Info, Reference
[05:46] <Ninjawarrior> Seems pretty powerful can integrate with github, wikipedia, good drive
[05:47] <Ninjawarrior> they should support youtube
[05:47] <nikhil> hey I need help for my ubuntu studio :/
[05:48] <nikhil> the problem is if I use any of the audio production tools I can't play any other audio file individually :?
[05:51] <savid> Finally got back into my shell. Ugh. Not sure what happened there. I didn't want to reboot b/c I didn't want to kill my session. Something took over for awhile, that's for sure.
[06:05] <pcoder> Hi, When I boot my Ubuntu 12.04, it takes a long time. This is what I have from dmesg. [  176.205854] e1000e 0000:00:19.0: PME# enabled [ 1140.409952] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 [ 1140.418478] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
[06:05] <pcoder> How can I resolve this issue?
[06:05] <pcoder> What I understand is that [drm] is taking the time. How could I disable this?
[06:16]  * ragu ;)
[06:16] <Guest59061> yes
[06:16] <mary_> yes
[06:19] <mary_> hi
[06:23] <salaj> leave
[06:23] <shawnbon206> why
[06:31] <riverloop> Hi, I'm using 14.04 and window borders and titlebar buttons are missing in LibreOffice Writer.
[06:31] <riverloop> Anybody has the same issue?
[06:34] <delt> Hello
[06:34] <delt> is there a way to use the linux mint (cinnamon, i believe) in (x)ubuntu?
[06:35] <riverloop> hello
[06:35] <delt> is there a way to use the linux mint desktop (cinnamon, i believe) in (x)ubuntu?
[06:35] <delt> (sry, wasn't clear)
[06:36] <pnunn> you can run cinnamon on ubuntu.
[06:36] <pnunn> not sure about xubuntu
[06:36] <delt> i can't find it in the repos
[06:36] <delt> not listed by either the software center app, or by "apt-cache search"
[06:37] <pnunn> google is you friend.
[06:37] <riverloop> there should be ppa:s available.
[06:38] <KJ6MLT> I have a serial device that has too many characters for a program I am using. Does anyone know of a way I can reduce the length of it?
[06:38] <KJ6MLT> Maybe mount it or something to another location or something? I don't think mount is the correct term here.
[06:39] <KJ6MLT> the programm normally just takes things like /dev/tty0 or /dev/tty0USB0 or something
[06:39] <KJ6MLT> but my path is more like /dev/serial/by-id/usb-RT_Systems_CT-62B_Radio_Cable_RTT0Q46T-if00-port0
[06:43] <riverloop> KJ6MLT: What about creating a shorter symlink?
[06:44] <riverloop> I don't know if that works or not, you can try though.
[06:44] <KJ6MLT> herm interesting I will look into that
[06:47] <KJ6MLT> riverloop: looks like you might be on to something there, now I seem to be having other preference issues. thanks for the advice
[06:50] <riverloop> KJ6MLT: You're welcome.
[06:50] <KJ6MLT> ya tested with another piece of software and that works just fine. So it must be other commincation problems now.
[07:02] <Minotaur> my ubuntu doesn't make  any sound... help
[07:03] <Sohron> Minotaur: increment volume from the mixer :p
[07:03] <Sohron> or unmute :D
[07:04] <meccooll> I have two monitors, how can i make them separate screens/display. Right now it's one bit display and i can drag windows from one to another
[07:07] <Minotaur> Sohron: that doesn't make any difference
[07:08] <Minotaur> force-reload give me this: Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload).
[07:08] <erle-> i am wondering for years now why you don't integrate firefox/thunderbird saved passwords within the session password manager
[07:09] <mgolisch_> Minotaur: does aplay -l display any sound devices?
[07:09] <Minotaur> mgolisch_: no devices found...
[07:10] <mgolisch_> hm what soundchip does you computer use?
[07:10] <Minotaur> mgolisch_: I don't know
[07:11] <Minotaur> lspci?
[07:12] <Minotaur> mgolisch_: come back later... I have changed /etc/default/speech-dispatcher run from no to yes
[07:12] <Minotaur> see you mgolisch_
[07:15] <Minotaur> I am back, and no sound at all
[07:15] <Minotaur> no devices ...
[07:17] <Minotaur> I want to know what is my sound card is
[07:17] <Minotaur> lspci shows me this:Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[07:18] <vifino> Minotaur: Would you mind explaining your problem to me?
[07:18] <bazhang> !intelhda | Minotaur
[07:18] <Minotaur> vifino: OK, my computer with ubuntu 14.04 doesn't make any sound
[07:19] <vifino> For me, it helped reinstalling ALSA
[07:19] <vifino> But follow that link
[07:19] <vifino> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[07:19] <Minotaur> thanks vifino
[07:20] <vifino> Thank bazhang
[07:20] <vifino> He did it
[07:21] <Minotaur> vifino: I haven't this dir :  /proc/asound/card0/
[07:21] <vifino> Well, try /proc/asound/ and hit tab before you enter
[07:22] <vifino> It'll show you the things you can choose
[07:22] <meccooll> I have two monitors, how can i make them separate screens/display DISPLAY :0.0 and :0.1. Right now it's one bit display and i can drag windows from one to another DISPLAY:0
[07:22] <vifino> meccooll: ...... What?
[07:23] <Minotaur> vifino: /proc/as.. TAB&TAB give me no result
[07:23] <vifino> Interesting.
[07:24] <meccooll> vifino, so each monitor is it's own screen and windows started in one cannot cross into another
[07:24] <root> hi
[07:24] <Minotaur> vifino: there is only acpi under /proc which starts with an 'a'
[07:25] <vifino> meccooll: First: Each Monitor is on its own. Second: That would make no sense, Im sorry.
[07:25] <vifino> Minotaur: No, that isnt it.
[07:25] <Minotaur> vifino: `lsmod | grep snd ` shows nothing
[07:26] <vifino> You want the internal intel sound, right?
[07:26] <vifino> Hrm...
[07:27] <Minotaur> vifino: right
[07:27] <Minotaur> `sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel ` gives me nothing, I think thiscommand  works fine
[07:28] <Guest94537> hi
[07:29] <vifino> Minotaur: I would try the uninstall, and reinstall, that helped me. Do "sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa && sudo apt-get install alsa" and tell me if it errors, it could
[07:30] <Minotaur> vifino: I have tried that earlier, nothing bad happened, so did goods...
[07:30] <vifino> Okay,
[07:31] <vifino> did you reboot?
[07:31] <Minotaur> vifino: how can I add execute modprobe snd-hda-intel when booting
[07:31] <Minotaur> vifino: rebooted lot of times...
[07:31] <vifino> Minotaur: Do you want it on boot, or on user login?
[07:32] <vifino> user login i know
[07:32] <Minotaur> vifino: yes
[07:32] <vifino> boot is on every linux different
[07:32] <vifino> I mean, the position of the file
[07:32] <Minotaur> vifino: I want to boot with the sound probed
[07:33] <Minotaur> vifino: hm...
[07:33] <vifino> That shouldnt make too much of a difference
[07:33] <Minotaur> can I give an parameter to kernel when boot from grub?
[07:33] <Minotaur> vifino: oh...
[07:34] <Minotaur> after modeprobe snd-hda-intel, lsmod give me some lines of snd grep
[07:35] <vifino> Minotaur: I'll do some magic, and I'll help you, dont worry!
[07:35] <vifino> xD
[07:35] <Minotaur> vifino: awosome...
[07:36] <vifino> :D
[07:36] <Minotaur> God help me :)
[07:36] <vifino> Minotaur: Im just starting my VM and test stuff
[07:40] <minotaur> vifino: thanks
[07:40] <minotaur> I loged out and relogin
[07:41] <minotaur> vifino: I did hear something
[07:41] <vifino> Woo!
[07:41] <vifino> :D
[07:41] <minotaur> but when I loged into the laptop, no sound ....
[07:41] <vifino> I'll help you no problem! :D
[07:44] <Guest21057> so many people
[07:47] <minotaur> hi Guest21057
[07:49] <vifino> minotaur: I tested it, and what you have to do is edit the file "/etc/rc.local" with root privileges and insert "modprobe snd-hda-intel" before the "exit 0"
[07:49] <vifino> Thats it
[07:50] <vifino> That should probe it on boot
[07:51] <vifino> Oh, I lied
[07:51] <vifino> It gets executed on login
[07:51] <vifino> Sowwy! :c
[07:52] <llutz> vifino: add "snd-hda-intel" to /etc/modules to load it
[07:52] <vifino> Yeah..
[07:53] <vifino> minotaur: Do "echo 'snd-hda-intel' >> /etc/modules"
[07:53] <esters> Hi, I have an image file which i want to write to a sd card. while checking the contents of the image with "file" command it gives me the following properties: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xb, starthead 130, startsector 8192, 15515648 sectors, extended partition table (last)\011, code offset 0x0
[07:53] <dw1> should be on boot not login
[07:53] <dw1> rc.local
[07:53] <esters> how could i properly write the card with dd ?
[07:53] <minotaur> vifino: llutz : thankyou two guys
[07:54] <llutz> esters: cat file >/dev/sdX    or  dd if=file of=/dev/sdX          as root
[07:54] <vifino> dw1: I am confused, I always thought it would be on boot, then I read an article, and they said it different
[07:54] <minotaur> vifino: now I'll reboot, see you later
[07:54] <vifino> There he goes...
[07:54] <esters> llutz: i dont need to use dd with offset or seek properties ?
[07:55] <vifino> esters: Use dd
[07:55] <llutz> esters: if that is a raw disk image, no
[07:55] <vifino> I never tried using cat, but I indeed used dd
[07:55] <vifino> esters: Raspberry Pi image?
[07:56] <vifino> Beaglebone Black?
[07:56] <esters> llutz: no, its a different image
[07:58] <bonn_> I all, I upgraded my notebook the other day, to the latest ubuntu, and it is now unbootable. There was a cups issue, that I believe Ihave fixed, and a Hal issue, also fixed, but the machine remains unbootsble. Any ideas?I
[07:59] <robotdevil> is firefox sandboxed by default?
[08:00] <dw1> bonn_: what happens? how far do you get? any errors?
[08:02] <bonn_> Starting chips printing  spooler/server, hangs. One other message, hub port 1 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling
[08:02] <meccooll> I have two monitors, how can i make them separate screens/display DISPLAY :0.0 and :0.1. Right now it's one bit display and i can drag windows from one to another DISPLAY:0
[08:02] <bonn_> And, that's it
[08:03] <meccooll> vifino, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/multihead look at Separate screens
[08:03] <someHuman> Hello!
[08:03] <someHuman> So I am looking for a decent job for the moment, what I really like doing is coding but I can't focus on that right now.
[08:04] <llutz> !ot | someHuman
[08:04] <someHuman> I opted that System Administration would be a good start, I found this site to learn from http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
[08:04] <vifino> meccooll: Sorry, I have no clue what you want, so I cant help
[08:04] <someHuman> Thanks!
[08:04] <vifino> !source
[08:04] <vifino> :|
[08:04] <vifino> I wantz bot source!
[08:04] <meccooll> vifino, that's why i shared the link
[08:05] <vifino> meccooll: I wont tell you something I didnt test, or used.
[08:05] <vifino> So, good luck!
[08:06] <meccooll> thnx hopefully someone will pop up
[08:06] <vifino> Who is the owner/creator of ubottu
[08:07] <llutz> vifino: http://ubottu.com/
[08:07] <vifino> wat
[08:08] <robotdevil> sudo aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox
[08:08] <robotdevil> sudo: aa-enforce: command not found
[08:08] <vifino> I like my bot more... It supports piping.... :c
[08:08] <llutz> robotdevil: install apparmor-utils
[08:09] <robotdevil> llutz: its not included? or is something else being used in its place? 14.04
[08:09] <robotdevil> selinux?
[08:09] <mpvhonest> how to link iPhone 5 with iOS7 to PC with Ubuntu 14.04?
[08:09] <mpvhonest> help me
[08:09] <dw1> bonn_: EMI = electromagnetic interference http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/usb-port-nn-disabled-by-hub-emi-re-enabling-841593/
[08:10] <dw1> bonn_: did you try booting without the printer plugged in ?
[08:10] <alnassafi> Hi all
[08:10] <alnassafi> I have a question
[08:10] <llutz> robotdevil: idk
[08:10] <Minotaur> vifino: no sound
[08:10] <alnassafi> I want to install texlive using ./install-tl but not a net one .. I downloaded all the 4 tars.
[08:10] <vifino> Hrm
[08:11] <vifino> Which method did you try?
[08:11] <Minotaur> and it seemed snd-hda-intel didn't loaded automaticaly
[08:11] <robotdevil> llutz: ok
[08:11] <dw1> bonn_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1972259
[08:11] <alnassafi> when I extract them and try to run ./install-tl ..from tex*-extra .. the installer can not find the required directory
[08:11] <mpvhonest> how to sync iphone5 to PC with Ubuntu 14.04
[08:11] <Minotaur> vifino: I append modprobe snd-hda-intel to /etc/modules
[08:12] <llutz> Minotaur: /etc/modules holds only module-names, no leading "modprobe"
[08:12] <vifino> Try this one:  <vifino>	 minotaur: I tested it, and what you have to do is edit the file "/etc/rc.local" with root privileges and insert "modprobe snd-hda-intel" before the "exit 0"
[08:12] <mpvhonest> help me
[08:12] <Minotaur> vifino: thanks
[08:12] <bazhang> !iphone | mpvhonest
[08:13] <vifino> I has rockbox on my iPod Classic xD
[08:13] <robotdevil> how do I tell if apparmor is used anymore? I would like to sandbox firefox but not sure if installing apparmor-utils is the right path or if the profiles will need to be created
[08:13] <vifino> Next to noone succeded
[08:13] <vifino> xD
[08:13] <vifino> I have the latest one
[08:14] <vifino> Aaaand i did it on my mac, also next to noone did that.
[08:14] <bazhang> !info texlive | alnassafi install from repos
[08:14] <mpvhonest> thanks
[08:14] <Decus> Hello friends
[08:14] <Decus> When I connect the hdmi from my tv to my laptop the audio is not sended to the tv
[08:14] <dw1> bonn_: you could check/repair packages with a livecd/usb, boot and do a chroot (#3-7 at http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot) then do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:15] <Decus> How can I solve that, please?
[08:15] <bazhang> Decus, checked in pavucontrol/padevchooser ?
[08:15] <alnassafi> I already downloaded them .. and I want to install them from the tars .. from reps I know it
[08:15] <vifino> Decus: Could it be that your laptop is still playing the audio on its speakers?
[08:16] <bazhang> alnassafi, why do you need to go outside package management
[08:16] <Decus> vifino: yes, but how to choose that? I've checked alsamixer and S/PDIF is ON
[08:16] <Decus> bazhang: first time I listen to that hehe
[08:16] <dw1> bonn_: often its a video driver issue after update. for ATI you could remove fglrx*, for add-on nvidia card install nvidia-current ...
[08:17] <vifino> Decus: Go to settings > audio
[08:18] <vifino> Try selecting your desired output, and playing a test sound
[08:18] <phrozen_phoenix> i got ubuntu 14.04 on computer with primamy memory of 1 Gb n itz damn slow. help !!
[08:19] <Decus> vifino: thanks mate, will check
[08:19] <dw1> ask and leave... derp
[08:19] <vifino> Decus: Okay, report back if succeeded
[08:19] <vifino> dw1: Usual ppls, cant wait.
[08:20]  * vifino shakes head disapointed
[08:25] <alnassafi> bazhang: I made a chroot environment and I am playing and learning ..
[08:25] <SunilJoshi> Hello, i am getting a black screen after performing sudo apt-get upgrade , screen goes blank just after the line "trigproc shared-mime-info:amd64 1.2-0ubuntu3 1.2-0ubuntu3"
[08:27] <vifino> SunilJoshi: I guess you have nvidia card?
[08:27] <SunilJoshi> vifino: not sure, i think NO
[08:27] <bazhang> alnassafi, so read the readme file
[08:28] <vifino> SunilJoshi: AMD?
[08:28] <bazhang> !compile | alnassafi
[08:28] <SunilJoshi> vifino: no, intel
[08:28] <vifino> oh, okay
[08:28] <SunilJoshi> SunilJoshi: everything was working fine before this, but now when i do upgrade my screen goes black...
[08:29] <vifino> hrm
[08:29] <vifino> never had a problem with intel cards.
[08:29] <SunilJoshi> Can someone help me to check logs, where i can see and what else i can check?
[08:29] <vifino> only nvidia
[08:31] <SunilJoshi> Also, i can see thunar is getting crashed now and then
[08:31] <dw1> SunilJoshi: boot into repair mode (or liveusb + mount drive), check /var/log/dmesg , syslog, Xorg.0.log
[08:32] <SunilJoshi> dw1: ok, but i need to boot into repair mode?? i am able to login into Xubuntu
[08:32] <SunilJoshi> why i need to*
[08:32] <dw1> SunilJoshi: oh
[08:32] <dw1> SunilJoshi: so when does it go black
[08:32] <SunilJoshi> ctl + alt + T and sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:33] <SunilJoshi> dw1: ^^
[08:33] <dw1> SunilJoshi: weird. well you could do ctrl-alt-f1 and do the upgrade in non-graphic mode
[08:34] <dw1> SunilJoshi: dist-upgrade would be better
[08:34] <SunilJoshi> i am on Xubuntu14.04
[08:34] <SunilJoshi> then also?
[08:34] <dw1> SunilJoshi: dist-upgrade is not a release upgrade
[08:35] <dw1> SunilJoshi: man apt-get
[08:35] <SunilJoshi> dw1: ok, can you help me with the command?
[08:35] <SunilJoshi> ok :)
[08:35] <dw1> SunilJoshi: it just more aggressively updates packages
[08:41] <SunilJoshi> one more point to make, after that black screen i am not able move to any console winows too i.e.ctl + alt + F1 doesnt works
[08:43] <dw1> SunilJoshi: does it happen if you do the upgrade in console
[08:48] <Bonn_> Ugh, so Ubuntu hangs on Starting SystemD login management service
[08:51] <presonic> any idea why SMB services (port 139 for example) are still available when i stop the samba service?
[08:51] <presonic> after i stop*
[08:52] <bekks> presonic: sudo lsof -i will tell you.
[08:54] <Bonn_> So, had anyone got any ideas for fixing a system that has become unbootable because if an upgrade last weekend? The system just hangs saying SystrmD login management service
[08:55] <presonic> bekks: would these open files prevent smbd/nmbd from closing?
[08:56] <presonic> you'd think shutting down a service would atleast alert you that it didn't close
[08:56] <presonic> i could kill smbd/nmbd manually
[08:59] <dw1> Bonn_: you could go into repair mode and check the end of the log files /var/log/dmesg, syslog, Xorg.0.log
[08:59] <dw1> Bonn_: maybe a helpful error there
[08:59] <presonic> well i guess for now i'll manually kill the daemons
[08:59] <presonic> if 'service' cant do its job properly
[09:00] <Bonn_> Dw1, the machine won't boot at all,not in normal boot mode, not in emergency/repair mode
[09:00] <dw1> Bonn_: then you could boot a liveusb and mount the drive and check the logs
[09:00] <presonic> fuck the daemon just restarted
[09:01] <presonic> its got new pids
[09:01] <ikonia> presonic: please don't swear
[09:01] <presonic> k
[09:01] <ikonia> tone down the language please and keep it clean
[09:01] <ikonia> thanks
[09:02] <kelvinella> hi how to mount SD-card?
[09:02] <kelvinella> I insert an SD-card but nothing happen?
[09:02] <presonic> great so i stop 'samba' service then run a 'status' using service command and says both daemons are up and running
[09:02] <bekks> !mount | kelvinella
[09:03] <presonic> i've had problems killing processes as well
[09:03] <presonic> small problem with rhythmbox
[09:03] <presonic> cant kill it
[09:03] <SunilJoshi> dw1: it says you need to run dpkg --configure -a now
[09:03] <presonic> at all
[09:03] <SunilJoshi> dw1: so i will be doing that now,
[09:03] <dw1> SunilJoshi: could help
[09:05] <Lorette18>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://j.mp/1gAh6Jy
[09:06] <Bonn_> Dw1  dmesg ends with s bizarre message about boy funding the bios; syslog complains about not finding an Ntp server,  and Xorg looks mildly interesting, but I have no tools for fixing it
[09:06] <kelvinella> I try to mount but goterror
[09:06] <Bonn_> Err, please excuse the typos, am on the phone as that's my only connection to the web
[09:06] <kelvinella> mount: no medium found on /dev/sdb
[09:07] <SunilJos1> dw1: ping
[09:07] <SunilJos1> dwl: I tried the same and i got a kernel panic message
[09:08] <SunilJos1> :o
[09:09] <dw1> Bonn_: i guess grub isnt installed properly
[09:09] <dw1> SunilJos1: :(
[09:10] <dw1> Bonn_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[09:10] <dw1> Bonn_: that tool might help
[09:10] <SunilJos1> dw1: what i need to do to get more information to provide here in this channel?
[09:10] <dw1> Bonn_: you cant get web on liveusb boot ?
[09:11] <dw1> SunilJos1: good question, or for google :)
[09:11] <dw1> SunilJos1: whath appens before panic
[09:12] <SunilJos1> hang
[09:12] <Bonn_> Dw1 but tonight, I'll try tomorrow
[09:12] <SunilJos1> i need to hard boot my laptop
[09:12] <presonic> anyone know what i could do about that? I can't kill a process. (using kill -9 <pid>)
[09:12] <SunilJos1> dw1: ^^
[09:12] <presonic> its not a zombie process
[09:12] <dw1> SunilJos1: what before the panic
[09:12] <presonic> even though  I think you can kill those anyways
[09:12] <SunilJos1> presonic: do you have permission to kill it?
[09:12] <presonic> yes SunilJos1
[09:12] <presonic> im root prompt
[09:13] <presonic> i've never seen anything like this before
[09:13] <dw1> its rare but it happens
[09:13] <SunilJos1> dw1: can you help me to see those in logs?
[09:13] <dw1> not sure of remedy
[09:13] <Bonn_> Hmm, grub's fine, it's the booting that's the problem
[09:14] <dw1> Bonn_: so you can access grub menu
[09:14] <kelvinella> If I use sudo fdisk -l and cant find the sd-card, does it mean my sd-card is fried?
[09:14] <SunilJos1> dw1: I remmber some text like, Kernel Panic process trying to kill init
[09:14] <Bonn_> Yeah, it's just not completing boot, and there's no shell
[09:15] <dw1> Bonn_: try nomodeset in the boot options
[09:16] <Bonn_> Ok, I'll do that in the morning.
[09:16] <dw1> Bonn_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[09:16] <dw1> Bonn_: k
[09:17] <dw1> SunilJos1: whats the last thing that worked before panic
[09:17] <dw1> SunilJos1: what about the logs ?
[09:17] <presonic> can i get a bit of help with snort here?
[09:18] <Bonn_> Thanks
[09:18] <dw1> Bonn_: hope its fixed soon :)
[09:18] <dw1> Bonn_: g/l
[09:19] <Sohron> is there a solution to get a qadro 600 working with nvidia-drivers? i'd like to enable cuda for boinc
[09:19] <jackbrown> hello
[09:19] <jackbrown> anyone can help me about samba ? when I surf with ubuntu file manager it's slow to show shared computer and folders
[09:19] <Sohron> all i get is a black screen when i use nvidia-drivers from ubuntu repo
[09:22] <Sohron> then nvidia-319 on 14.04
[09:22] <ronaldsmazitis> cant get php working with apache on 14.04
[09:22] <ronaldsmazitis> HELP
[09:23] <ronaldsmazitis> REINSTALLED 2 TIMES because of this
[09:23] <Sohron> ronaldsmazitis: error messages?
[09:23] <ronaldsmazitis> http://pastebin.com/gtcAu1MT
[09:23] <Sohron> no need to reinstall the os ronaldsmazitis
[09:24] <ronaldsmazitis> php shows as code instead of intepretting
[09:24] <ronaldsmazitis> phpinfo(); works
[09:24] <babinlonston> We have a MasterDNS server masterdns.arrivu.local and Secondarydns.arrivu.local in our local network,  Its assigning name to the client hosts which using centos, but its not assigning host name for Ubuntu machines,  how can i get a host name from DNS for Ubuntu desktop
[09:25] <ronaldsmazitis> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04
[09:25] <ronaldsmazitis> this tutorial doesn't work
[09:25] <Sohron> babinlonston: if you only need dns for a small network then use dnsmasq
[09:26] <ronaldsmazitis> Sohron:
[09:28] <Ben64> ronaldsmazitis: if phpinfo works, then it works
[09:28] <ronaldsmazitis> but it doesn't\
[09:28] <SunilJos1> dw1: which logs to check can you please tell me? everything was working fine before...
[09:28] <Ben64> ronaldsmazitis: you just said phpinfo works...
[09:28] <babinlonston> Sohron: already setup-ed in Centos
[09:28] <ronaldsmazitis> my site is blank
[09:28] <ronaldsmazitis> or shows code
[09:29] <ronaldsmazitis> phpinfo() shows
[09:29] <ronaldsmazitis> althought
[09:29] <ronaldsmazitis> 2 DAY STILL not managed to work it
[09:29] <Ben64> ronaldsmazitis: ok, then php works, theres something else wrong
[09:29] <SunilJos1> dw1: everything works fine before but as soon as i do dpkg --configure -a, kernel panic message appears on console
[09:29] <ronaldsmazitis> Ben64: what
[09:29] <ronaldsmazitis> my code was working
[09:30] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: What does "shows code" and "phpinfo() shows" mean?
[09:30] <Ben64> ronaldsmazitis: i don't know how to explain it any simpler, if phpinfo works, then php works.
[09:30] <ronaldsmazitis> shows it as text
[09:30] <dw1> SunilJos1: i wonder what its reconfiguring
[09:30] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: Then enable the php module in apache.
[09:30] <ronaldsmazitis> damn
[09:30] <ronaldsmazitis> I am going mad
[09:30] <ronaldsmazitis> I can't
[09:30] <Sohron> ronaldsmazitis: your log clearly states the file is not found
[09:30] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: Why not?
[09:31] <ronaldsmazitis> what?
[09:31] <SunilJos1> dw1: where i can see kernel related messages, i am not able to find anything in /var/log/kern.log
[09:31] <trijntje> SunilJos1: what is the output of cat /proc/cmdline
[09:31] <dw1> SunilJos1: debugging kernel panic not my specialty
[09:31] <SunilJos1> dw1: ok,no issue, thanks alot for you help :) !
[09:31] <ronaldsmazitis> I have done everything
[09:31] <Sohron> maybe ronaldsmazitis has forgotten to use <?php ... ?> with his pages?
[09:31] <ronaldsmazitis> Sohron: mad?
[09:32] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: Your paste shows that php is enable, but the specified file does not exist.
[09:32] <Ben64> ronaldsmazitis: who's mad?
[09:32] <ronaldsmazitis> daaaaamn
[09:32] <SunilJos1> trijntje: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=UUID=a8e2bb2a-a221-4272-ae7a-2f98901af052 ro init=/sbin/e4rat-preload quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[09:32] <nova_> hi
[09:32] <ronaldsmazitis> this is stupid enough
[09:32] <trijntje> SunilJos1: disable e4rat, it makes init crash when updating libc6
[09:32] <nova_> ronaldsmazitis: what is that?
[09:33] <stephen_> asdas
[09:33] <SunilJos1> trijntje: ok, But how do i disable it ? removing the line from grub, will do it ?
[09:34] <stephen_> hello
[09:34] <ronaldsmazitis> please give me tutorial that work
[09:34] <ronaldsmazitis> s
[09:34] <ronaldsmazitis> ubuntu 14.04 clearly doesn't
[09:34] <ronaldsmazitis> I tried everything but php doesn't work with apache 2.4.7 on it
[09:34] <trijntje> SunilJos1: yes, removing it from grub is fine
[09:34] <SunilJos1> trijntje: ok, tryin,, brb ..
[09:34] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: The file does not exist. Tutorial: create it.
[09:35] <ronaldsmazitis> what file
[09:35] <ronaldsmazitis> ?
[09:35] <nova_> type whoami in console
[09:35] <ronaldsmazitis> what are you talking about
[09:35] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: you pastebin shows this: script '/var/www/html/youtubem.php' not found or unable to stat
[09:35] <ronaldsmazitis> http://pastebin.com/gtcAu1MT
[09:36] <ronaldsmazitis> where do you get that
[09:36] <ronaldsmazitis> wtf
[09:36] <nova_> xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1280x1024
[09:36] <nova_> ops
[09:36] <nova_> sorry
[09:36] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: stop swearing. dont use enter as punctuation sign. read your own paste.
[09:36] <ronaldsmazitis> I was here yesterday I already tried everything 10 times
[09:36] <ronaldsmazitis> oh
[09:36] <ronaldsmazitis> wait
[09:36] <Ben64> if you actually tried everything, it would already be working
[09:37] <ronaldsmazitis> I will reinstall everything for next time
[09:37] <stephen_> fuck!!!!!!
[09:37] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: you dont need to install anything.
[09:37] <Ben64> that won't help ronaldsmazitis
[09:37] <bekks> stephen_: ignore set.
[09:37] <ikonia> stephen_: stop with the language
[09:37] <ikonia> stephen_: there is no need for it, and it is not welcome, just talk to others with respect, polite approach, please.
[09:37] <auscompgeek> hey guys, has wubi been deprecated with trusty? the initrd complains about / having an error, but fsck says it's fine
[09:37] <nova_> hi
[09:38] <ikonia> auscompgeek: it's pretty much a dead product
[09:38] <Ben64> wubi has been depreciated long before trusty
[09:38] <bekks> auscompgeek: Yes.
[09:39] <auscompgeek> so I'm beating my head over a grave then, it seems
[09:40] <IamSoSad> hi
[09:40] <ronaldsmazitis> I was using php + apache happy before 14.04 upgraded apache to 2.4 and php to 5.5
[09:40] <ronaldsmazitis> now it seems impossible to get my page working on it
[09:41] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: Then fix the error in your pastebin.
[09:41] <IamSoSad> ronaldsmazitis: check changelogs and identify what is causing that problem
[09:41] <ronaldsmazitis> I did that
[09:41] <Ben64> ronaldsmazitis: maybe lamenting more will help then? make sure phpinfo works, make sure it will parse php from html files, make sure your syntax is all correct
[09:41] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: Then state you current issue. The first one was "file not found". Whats the error now?
[09:42] <IamSoSad> ronaldsmazitis: file not found error is very suspicious
[09:42] <ronaldsmazitis> right now I'm installing everything again
[09:42] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: Installing what?
[09:42] <IamSoSad> ronaldsmazitis: lol, why you do that?
[09:42] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: And why?
[09:42] <ronaldsmazitis> apache php
[09:42] <ikonia> why ?
[09:42] <Ben64> "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
[09:42] <ronaldsmazitis> cause it doesn't work
[09:42] <IamSoSad> ronaldsmazitis: reinstalling is not a solution, lol
[09:42] <ronaldsmazitis> UBUNTU
[09:42] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: Do you really think reinstalling things magically fixes problems?
[09:43] <IamSoSad> ronaldsmazitis: if you want to get a pc work out of box install windows instead
[09:43] <ronaldsmazitis> why phpinfo() gets interpretted but my includes doesn't
[09:43] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: Because you are doing it wrong?
[09:43] <Ben64> ronaldsmazitis: i suggested some possibilities above
[09:44] <ronaldsmazitis> I did everything as tutorial asks
[09:44] <ronaldsmazitis> +
[09:44] <IamSoSad> ronaldsmazitis: check directory permissions
[09:44] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: Show us your actual code then.
[09:44] <ronaldsmazitis> fffffuuuu
[09:44] <ikonia> ronaldsmazitis: stop with the language please
[09:44] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: I am tired of your rants. Ignore set.
[09:45] <IamSoSad> people are so angry these days
[09:46] <ronaldsmazitis> php apache should work out of box
[09:46] <ronaldsmazitis> this is painfull
[09:46] <ikonia> works out of the box just fine
[09:47] <SunilJoshi> trijntje: thanks alot for your help! that solved my problem :) \o/
[09:48] <trijntje> SunilJoshi: cool, glad I could help
[09:50] <robotdevil> does vbox need a java jre instaled? or is it built into it
[09:50] <STPI> hello guys
[09:50] <IamSoSad> hi
[09:51] <Dacs> i am using xfce4-panel && xchat & to run xchat from my ubuntu box in my windows. is there a way i can get the same session from a different box?
[09:51] <STPI> what's more system resources saving between Gnome 3 (actual) and Gnome 2?
[09:51] <bekks> STPI: Gnome2 is dead, so it doesnt use any resources anymore :)
[09:51] <STPI> :)
[09:52] <SunilJoshi> robotdevil: which OS is installed on your Virtual bos it depends upon that?
[09:52] <SunilJoshi> box*
[09:52] <ronaldsmazitis> http://84.237.249.24/
[09:52] <STPI> can I get a more appropriate answer here bekks? :p
[09:52] <IamSoSad> STPI: if you mean gtk2, it is not dead actualyl
[09:53] <ronaldsmazitis> see
[09:53] <ronaldsmazitis> that is my ip
[09:53] <Ben64> yep, php works
[09:53] <ronaldsmazitis> but my code doesn't
[09:53] <Ben64> then maybe your code is bad?
[09:53] <ronaldsmazitis> you are bad
[09:53] <IamSoSad> STPI: and resource usage depends on your theme, desktop environment, effects, window manager, icon themes etc
[09:53] <ronaldsmazitis> my code worked on 12.04
[09:53] <melodie> hi people!
[09:53] <Dacs> anyone ?
[09:53] <Ben64> ok i'm done with you, good luck
[09:53] <ronaldsmazitis> ALSO WHEN I UPGRADED IT WORKED
[09:54] <melodie> Dacs no you are alone ;)
[09:54] <ronaldsmazitis> I reinstalled cause nautilus was missing thumbnails and skype was crippled on 14.04
[09:54] <Dacs> i am using xfce4-panel && xchat & to run xchat from my ubuntu box in my windows. is there a way i can get the same session from a different box?
[09:54] <robotdevil> SunilJoshi: huh really
[09:54] <ronaldsmazitis> now my code doesn't work
[09:54] <STPI> IamSoSad: Thank you. But what's the difference between Gnome2 like (gnome-flashback-session) and GTK2?
[09:54] <IamSoSad> ronaldsmazitis: you should try to ask your question in #php
[09:54] <ronaldsmazitis> lets try <?php echo 'this is string'; ?>
[09:54] <SunilJoshi> robotdevil: yup
[09:55] <ronaldsmazitis> that works
[09:55] <IamSoSad> STPI: gtk2 is a toolkit where gnome is a desktop environment
[09:55] <STPI> can I install gtk2 on my ubuntu?
[09:55] <robotdevil> SunilJoshi: so you need to know what I install on the vm to determine what is needed on the host?
[09:55] <IamSoSad> STPI: ignore where I wrote it accidentalyl :)
[09:55] <melodie> I would like to know if people here run Precise, up to date : I have met with strange issues which seem related to the latest python-dbus update, and I would like your opinion : does the software-center have issues for you? and does the usb-creator-gtk tool have issues? Because I meet with issues with these two tools
[09:56] <IamSoSad> STPI: gtk gtk2 and the new version gtk3(being developed by red hat)
[09:56] <SunilJoshi> robotdevil: Virtual Box has nothing in it, untill we install something on it , so yes
[09:56] <melodie> Dacs xchat exists for Windows and there is also a full gpl equivalent for windows, almost the same, which has for name hexchat. I don't know what you mean with "other box" though
[09:57] <IamSoSad> STPI: are all toolkits, the gtk+ was used to develop gnu image manipulation program
[09:57] <STPI> IamSoSad: what is using Ubuntu GNOME 14.04? gtk, gtk2 or gtk3?
[09:57] <IamSoSad> STPI: Ubuntu GNOME makes an interface for all of them
[09:57] <IamSoSad> STPI: chromium depends on gtk2, for example
[09:57] <melodie> anyone available to test software-center and usb-creator-gtk in 12.04 ?
[09:57] <STPI> hum ok
[09:58] <tadzik> hello #ubuntu
[09:58] <tadzik> my update to 14.04 didn't go as smoothly as I'd hope it to, I hope somebody could help me with that, maybe
[09:58] <Dacs> melodie, say i have windows machine #1 running xchat seesion, can i have another windows machine pull the same xchat session
[09:58] <melodie> tadzik easy way : install a fresh one?
[09:58] <robotdevil> SunilJoshi: so to install windows on vbox then I need java installed? what if I dont intend to run any java based apps in windows?
[09:58] <tadzik> melodie: I hope you're kidding
[09:58] <IamSoSad> tadzik: we can if you give us more details
[09:59] <STPI> IamSoSad: what would be better for performance you think? a Ubuntu GNOME (like normal) or Ubuntu (default) with a gnome-flashback-session?
[09:59] <tadzik> IamSoSad: yeah, typing
[09:59] <melodie> tadzik yes I am
[09:59] <IamSoSad> STPI: some say gnome is so much bloated
[09:59] <melodie> tadzik and I am in a bad mood too because there is a breakage in the 12.04 LTS and I would like to check if it's only me
[09:59] <SunilJoshi> SunilJoshi: yes correct, but some websites expect to have Java runtime installed so its good if you keep it installed
[09:59] <drvanon> Is setting up a mail server supposed to be so incredibly hard?
[09:59] <robotdevil> SunilJoshi: java installed in host (ubuntu)*
[10:00] <STPI> IamSoSad: you mean ubuntu gnome? or both?
[10:00] <IamSoSad> STPI: the gnome desktop environment I mean
[10:00] <melodie> anyone can help me ?
[10:00] <melodie> ???
[10:00] <tadzik> so: at some point during 'do-release-update' (iirc), it found changes in systemd config files, and asked me to resolve the conflicts. I asked it to open a shell, opened a vim inside, mangled, then hit C-z to put it in the background. Then everything hit the fan. The text on the terminal appeared on the random places on the screen, 'reset' didn't help so I just typed 'exit', as the update tool said that when I
[10:00] <tadzik> do so it will go back to the updater
[10:00] <SunilJoshi> IIRC, No. But you can easilt install it
[10:00] <SunilJoshi> robotdevil: ^^
[10:00] <STPI> IamSoSad: so what would you suggest between those two options?
[10:00] <tadzik> but instead it closed the terminal window, so I have a hanging dpkg process which I have no access too
[10:00] <robotdevil> SunilJoshi: couldnt I just have java installed in windows on the vm if it needed it?
[10:01] <tadzik> of course it doesn't react to SIGTERM
[10:01] <melodie> tadzik did you choose the recent files provided by the devs ?
[10:01] <IamSoSad> STPI: I'd suggest sticking with ubuntu because it's ubuntu's main desktop enviroment
[10:01] <tadzik> melodie: no
[10:01] <tadzik> melodie: I needed to merge my local changes into the new ones
[10:01] <SunilJoshi> robotdevil: not able to understand your question, rephrase it :)
[10:01] <ronaldsmazitis> can't connect to #php
[10:01] <melodie> tadzik maybe that would have been wise?
[10:01] <tadzik> so I opened a shell
[10:01] <IamSoSad> STPI: ubuntu unity*
[10:01] <ronaldsmazitis> devils
[10:01] <melodie> tadzik ok ok
[10:02] <STPI> IamSoSad: but unity uses more resources than a gnome-flashback-session no?
[10:02] <vlt> ronaldsmazitis: ##php
[10:02] <melodie> tadzik what issues do you meet with? Is it blocking?
[10:02] <tadzik> so, I have a process which is in the middle of updating my system
[10:02] <ronaldsmazitis> doesnt work vlt
[10:02] <tadzik> I can't run another apt, because lock
[10:02] <melodie> Dacs you need to ask ##windows
[10:02] <tadzik> I don't want to SIGKILL, as the system is already acting funny because of the upgrade
[10:02] <robotdevil> SunilJoshi: to launch and run vbox on my ubuntu system (host) is java for anyway needed to be installed on said host?
[10:02] <tadzik> (gtk themes breaking, fontconfig OOMing and all that)
[10:02] <Dacs> melodie, that is not a windows issue
[10:03] <tadzik> so I'm looking for either a way to reattach that dpkg to a terminal, or shutting it down gently
[10:03] <IamSoSad> STPI: yes, that is true but there are more hardcore cpu and ram friendly environments
[10:03] <melodie> Dacs didn't you say "Windows" ?
[10:03] <SunilJoshi> robotdevil: No
[10:03] <IamSoSad> STPI: such as lxde
[10:03] <STPI> IamSoSad: like Lubuntu?
 melodie, say i have windows machine #1 running xchat seesion, can i have another windows machine pull the same xchat session
[10:03] <IamSoSad> STPI: yes
[10:03] <vlt> ronaldsmazitis: What error message do you get?
[10:03] <robotdevil> SunilJoshi: doesnt vbox run some form of java?
[10:03] <SunilJoshi> robotdevil: no
[10:03] <IamSoSad> STPI: you can get lxde working without reinstall
 Dacs xchat exists for Windows and there is also a full gpl equivalent for windows, almost the same, which has for name hexchat. I don't know what you mean with "other box" though
[10:04] <tadzik> in the worst case: can I safely kill the dpkg that's updating my relese and expect stuff to not blow up?
[10:04] <STPI> IamSoSad: would you say that Unity and Gnome3 are quite equal in terms of resources consumption?
[10:04] <IamSoSad> STPI: they both target mobile platforms
[10:04] <melodie> Dacs if you are running Ubuntu Wubi (for instance) in Windows and you want a xchat session being the same in 2 Windows machines, then the host is a Windows, and that would be a windows matter :)
[10:04] <tadzik> I'm afraid that when I do that, the updater process will kick in and start messing around
[10:04] <STPI> IamSoSad: alright :)
[10:04] <IamSoSad> STPI: if you are working on a desktop there will be useless features loaded into your ram and you won't use the
[10:04] <IamSoSad> STPI: m
[10:04] <tadzik> wasn't there some trick to attach screen/tmux to a running process?
[10:05] <melodie> tadzik I suggest you let the program do it's job till the end
[10:05] <robotdevil> SunilJoshi: yay
[10:05] <tadzik> melodie: I don't think it's doing anything now
[10:05] <melodie> tadzik and while it does it's stuff, take a breeze, go get a coffee or a cup of tea, have some fresh air : nothing too bad can happen.
[10:05] <tadzik> melodie: both cpu usage and hdd usage is zero
[10:05] <Dacs> melodie, no. i have a stand alone ubuntu box. and i am using cygwin from windows to pull xfce desktop from ubuntu.
[10:05] <STPI> IamSoSad: thank you for your informations!
[10:05] <tadzik> melodie: so it's probably waiting for that child process with a shell
[10:05] <IamSoSad> STPI: you are welcome :)
[10:06] <robotdevil> SunilJoshi: sorry I thought it used some form of java, like how pipelight uses wine but different
[10:06] <ronaldsmazitis> help vlt
[10:06] <melodie> Dacs so your main system is Windows, don't turn around, it's a windows matter
[10:06] <eTeddy> hi
[10:06] <Dacs> melodie,my question is there any way i can pull the same ubuntu xfce session from another cygwin in a different machine ?
[10:06] <tadzik> oh, I may want to use 'reptyr'. If only I could install it
[10:07] <melodie> Dacs try the chan I told you, there are many dual booters there they will be more able to help you: nice people really!
[10:07] <Dacs> you doosh i am not dual booting
[10:07] <eTeddy> How can adjust under Ubunut 14:04 so I nautilus that I see the eye expanded tree structure in the left part?
[10:07] <melodie> doosh yourself : I mean the guys there know both windows and linux
[10:08] <IamSoSad> Dacs: you can use secure shell
[10:08] <melodie> /ignore Dacs
[10:08] <tadzik> and I can't even trick it with renaming the lockfile
[10:08] <tadzik> well, I guess I have to kill it :/
[10:08] <melodie> tadzik do you have the process in a console?
[10:08] <tadzik> melodie: a process, yes. In a console, no
[10:08] <melodie> I mean did you upgrade using the console to start the process?
[10:08] <tadzik> yes
[10:08] <melodie> what about just doing a rm on the lock file?
[10:09] <tadzik> now the console is closed because dpkg lied to me :)
[10:09] <tadzik> melodie: I tried renaming it, and then it said dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:09] <melodie> tadzik it may have been stucked, whereas lying... :D
[10:09] <Dacs> it seems that Mr. melodie doesn't know what he is talking about
[10:09] <Dacs> moving on
[10:09] <melodie> tadzik just remove the lock file :)
[10:09] <tadzik> melodie: why, it did :D It said "I'll open a console for you, and when you type 'exit' I'll keep updating"
[10:09] <tadzik> melodie: but when I typed 'exit' it closed the entire terminal window
[10:10] <IamSoSad> tadzik: if you are sure no apt process working in background you can clear lock files in /run
[10:10] <melodie> Dacs I am not Mr and if you don't like what I say just use ssh at the other person said
[10:10] <tadzik> IamSoSad: I am sure there is one
[10:10] <tadzik> IamSoSad: that is the problem
[10:10] <melodie> tadzik exit closes terminals
[10:10] <tadzik> it's stuck though, and not reacting to SIGTERM
[10:10] <IamSoSad> tadzik: get it's process id by pstree -p command
[10:10] <tadzik> melodie: no. exit closes sessions
[10:10] <melodie> tadzik you know where the lock file is, right?
[10:10] <tadzik> if you run bash inside bash, exit returns the inner one
[10:10] <IamSoSad> tadzik: try "kill -15 (pid)"
[10:11] <IamSoSad> tadzik: if that doesn't work you can also try killing one of its parent processes
[10:11] <melodie> tadzik of course, if you start a terminal and from that shell open a new one, then close the first, all child terminals will close
[10:11] <tadzik> so the problem is, C-z in my inner session suspended the outer one
[10:11] <tadzik> I think that qualifies for a bug
[10:11] <IamSoSad> tadzik: do you know the name of process?
[10:12] <tadzik> the regular shell usage fscked my update
[10:12] <tadzik> IamSoSad: yeah, I've got it
[10:12] <tadzik> it's a bit nested
[10:12] <IamSoSad> tadzik: try grep "ps -aux | grep [process_name]"
[10:12] <tadzik> ├─trusty(25696)───dpkg(989)───zsh(15722)───sudo(15768)───vim(15769)─┬─{vim}(15770)
[10:12] <tadzik> and then dozens of other vims below that
[10:12] <IamSoSad> tadzik: ok, now kill 989
[10:12] <melodie> IamSoSad the "u" is not necessary
[10:12] <melodie> ps -ax is ok
[10:12] <tadzik> IamSoSad: what about trusty? Isn't that the release thingy?
[10:13] <tadzik> wait, I didn't even check what singnal 15 is :)
[10:13] <melodie> ok, now is someone here able to help me? I need to know what goes on with last python-dbus updates in Precise : anyone?
[10:13] <tadzik> ah, that's TERM, okay
[10:14] <IamSoSad> tadzik: did it work?
[10:14] <tadzik> IamSoSad: yeah, it's all down now
[10:14] <IamSoSad> tadzik: :)
[10:14] <tadzik> I realized I did it from htop first, and it didn't have permissions :)
[10:14] <tadzik> IamSoSad: thank you
[10:14] <IamSoSad> tadzik: you're welcome
[10:14] <tadzik> so now hopefully dpkg can finish its job and things will not break horribly
[10:15] <tadzik> yeah, I have the systemd config monit again :)
[10:15] <Guest76090> Good morning :)
[10:16] <IamSoSad> is systemd implemented in 14.04?
[10:16] <vifino> "Good Morning" and left.
[10:16] <tadzik> I'm afraid it is
[10:16] <tadzik> I don't really like it
[10:16] <tadzik> it's supposed to be an init system, but apparently it's also a powermanager, and gods know what else
[10:17] <tadzik> and if I want ubuntu to not suspend when I close the laptop, I need to change it in like 3 places
[10:17] <tadzik> systemd, upower and something else
[10:17] <melodie> http://pastebin.fr/35863
[10:18] <melodie> who has a 12.04 where the software-center allows installing programs?  Here it's not working anymore: other ones for whom it won't work?
[10:18] <melodie> thanks for helpppppp!!!!
[10:18] <melodie> :D
[10:18]  * melodie his heading to #ubuntu-women, maybe more help there?
[10:19] <tadzik> :)
[10:19] <IamSoSad> :
[10:19] <tadzik> melodie: did you try updating it from the CLI?
[10:19] <tadzik> the software-center, that is
[10:19] <paracox> easy
[10:19] <tadzik> okay, that all worked, it says I'm on 14.04 now
[10:19] <tadzik> I hope that hilarous lockscreen bug is no longer there :D
[10:19] <melodie> it's not the software-center that was updated, it's python-dbus, a few days ago: since then I had not started the software-center
[10:19] <melodie> but,
[10:19] <IamSoSad> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[10:20] <tadzik> ah, python :)
[10:20] <melodie> when I realized I could not use it to install a program I uninstalled it completely and the depends too, and then reinstalled it from the main repos
[10:20] <melodie> I used Synaptic
[10:20] <tadzik> ok, I'll reboot and see what blows up...
[10:21] <melodie> IamSoSad yes, that's the version I use
[10:21] <melodie> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[10:21] <melodie> and usb-creator-gtk is broken too: it stopped installing a bootloader
[10:21] <IamSoSad> melodie: are you sure that installing dbus-python caused the problem?
[10:21] <tadzik> yay, seems to work \o/
[10:22] <tadzik> aside from mcabber
[10:22] <melodie> IamSoSad I have not installed it, it was updated with the rest of the system
[10:22] <IamSoSad> melodie: did you try running synaptic in bash?
[10:22] <Armag3dd0n1> I'm back like a house on fire :p
[10:23] <IamSoSad> melodie: maybe it outputs errors
[10:23] <melodie> IamSoSad Synaptic works, it's not concerned, it's the Software Center which is impacted
[10:23] <melodie> I just pasted the output
[10:23] <melodie> http://pastebin.fr/35863
[10:23] <IamSoSad> melodie: I have no idea, sorry
[10:24] <IamSoSad> http://pastebin.fr/35863
[10:24] <IamSoSad> melodie: let me check the output
[10:24] <Armag3dd0n1> I have a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04, what tweaks should I do?
[10:24] <tadzik> do you need any? :)
[10:24] <Armag3dd0n1> idk lol
[10:24] <Armag3dd0n1> :p
[10:24] <Armag3dd0n1> brb
[10:25] <tadzik> apparently the only tricks I did to my ubuntu that are beyond my /home is not suspending the laptop on lid close
[10:25] <IamSoSad> softwarecenter.region - WARNING - failed to use geoclue: 'org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Geoclue.Master was not provided by any .service files'
[10:25] <tadzik> melodie: just to make sure: everything works aside from software center, and your system is fully up-to-date?
[10:25] <melodie> IamSoSad I can also provide a log from usb-creator-gtk, I just need to start another machine where I have used it recently
[10:25] <IamSoSad> melodie: the problem is here I guess
[10:26] <melodie> tadzik yes, all works
[10:26] <tadzik> what makes it weird is that there is no error in this output, it's all just warnings
[10:26] <melodie> aside from software-center and usb-creator-gtk
[10:26] <melodie> I have not checked other programs that might rely on python-dbus and or python-ibus (I don't know which ones do)*
[10:26] <IamSoSad> melodie: also, adwaita gtk-engine is missing
[10:27] <melodie> IamSoSad adwaita does not exist in the repos, I checked
[10:27] <melodie> IamSoSad it's a message of no value for the issue
[10:27] <melodie> the last lines only are important:
[10:27] <tadzik> also, python is confused by unicode in some html file
[10:27] <IamSoSad> melodie: gtk2-engines package
[10:28] <melodie> adwaita used to be a gtk3 theme
[10:28] <IamSoSad> melodie: I don't know french, can you translate the last line?
[10:28] <melodie> yes I will try
[10:29] <melodie> it says "Warning: the location is not supported"
[10:29] <melodie> IamSoSad the lines "softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - _on_trans_error: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.57'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages" at 23 and 24 are what appears when I click on the "Install" button from a given program
[10:30] <IamSoSad> WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-Qyvo8u/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[10:30] <melodie> this is a message of no importance either
[10:30] <IamSoSad> melodie: why is it trying to access /tmp file, wasn't it supposed to be a temporary dir and emptied between system-restarts?
[10:31] <melodie> I will fire a virtual machine where I have a version which was not started since april 18th
[10:31] <melodie> yes it's emptied between restarts, of course
[10:31] <melodie> just the lines 23 and 24 matter really: dbus issue
[10:32] <IamSoSad> melodie: I am pretty sure that the problem caused by gtk3
[10:32] <melodie> IamSoSad so the virtual machine not updated since april 18th should have a working software center, because the python-dbus I really suspect to be the cause, was updated on may 6ths
[10:33] <M0DCM-Dave> Isn't TJ- about?
[10:33] <gr33d> am i using ln wrong? this command nets the directory structure i need, but it creates a circular reference e.g. #{shared_path}/system/avatars has a symlink _inside_ called ‘avatars’ that points to itself and goes on forever? i expected nothing to be created inside #{shared_path}/system/avatars  ln -fs #{shared_path}/system/avatars #{release_path}/public/system/users/avatars
[10:33] <melodie> IamSoSad I have a hard time believing it, because no gtk3 package was updated
[10:33] <melodie> IamSoSad with the virtul install I will check that right away
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> gr33d  try #bash
[10:33] <IamSoSad> melodie: is there any chance to remove dbus-python and its variants?
[10:33] <melodie> IamSoSad what version do you run? are you on Trusty, Precise or another one?
[10:34] <gr33d> monkeydust thanks
[10:34] <melodie> IamSoSad that would be a large breakage : test "sudo apt-get remove python-dbus" and see what it would pull out :)
[10:34] <IamSoSad> melodie: I am not running ubuntu atm, this is my server-pc my laptop is on a maintainance
[10:35] <IamSoSad> melodie: removing python-dbus should only affect python dependent programs
[10:36] <melodie> IamSoSad what is your knowledge?
[10:36] <IamSoSad> melodie: what do you mean?
[10:36] <melodie> do you have dev know-how?
[10:36] <melodie> I was mainly trying to find other people who might have met with the same issues, on other Ubuntu flavors of the same version
[10:36] <IamSoSad> melodie: I am developing C applications
[10:37] <melodie> IamSoSad in the Virtual machine not updated since april 04, right now the software-center works
[10:37] <melodie> I just installed Pingus
[10:37] <melodie> I could fire it up again from a console and bring the output to show what it does when it works
[10:38] <melodie> so we can compare outputs
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> melodie  I havent followed, do you have dev questions?
[10:38] <IamSoSad> melodie: print installed package list to a text file, then diff two files
[10:38] <melodie> MonkeyDust yes, one moment
[10:38] <IamSoSad> melodie: then you can see what changed since you updated your system
[10:39] <melodie> IamSoSad I can fake to update and print the list of what will/would be updated
[10:39] <melodie> that will be easier
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> melodie  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[10:40] <melodie> MonkeyDust what do they do?
[10:40] <kunal> hello
[10:40] <IamSoSad> http://askubuntu.com/questions/111680/how-to-resolve-unmet-dependencies-error
[10:40] <admin-ro> bitches
[10:40] <IamSoSad> melodie: see this link
[10:40] <robotdevil> Can someone point me to the page that had the entire apt0get install command for kubuntu-restricted-extras. I do not want the command apt-get install (k)ubuntu-restricted-extras but the entire command so I may remove java
[10:40] <kunal> My url loader  is not working
[10:41] <robotdevil> apt-get install*
[10:41] <kunal> whatever url i type in and press enter nothing happens
[10:41] <kunal> resintall firefox
[10:41] <robotdevil> I would like both please as I have both systems :-)
[10:42] <melodie> IamSoSad I look thank you
[10:42] <IamSoSad> melodie: you are welcome, is your problem solved?
[10:43] <ifemide> My system is 32-bit but I installed a 64-bit Ubuntu (dual boot, for now). I wanna totally lose windows 8 and am wondering if I should continue with the  64-bit Ubuntu. Is it safe?
[10:43] <bekks> ifemide: you cant install 64bit on 32bit.
[10:43] <bekks> ifemide: So do you have a 64bit CPU, in fact?
[10:43] <_Trullo> ifemide, doesn't matter
[10:44] <IamSoSad> ifemide: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:45] <_Trullo> unless your computer is from 1995 you can install 64bit, you can dualboot a 32bit and a 64bit system
[10:45] <c0nd0rr> how can i remove kubuntu-desktop including all kde packages?
[10:45] <robotdevil> ifemide: one wont let you install, it will say wrong architecture, if you only have 32 bit cpu
[10:45] <ifemide> okay, its an hp elite book
[10:45] <IamSoSad> robotdevil: at least you can get kernel and core utils working
[10:45] <bekks> ifemide: Which CPU do you have?
[10:46] <ifemide> just ran 'cat /proc/cpuinfo. Scrolling through now
[10:46] <bekks> ifemide: Just pastebin it please.
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> !pureubuntu | c0nd0rr
[10:46] <IamSoSad> !lvm
[10:46] <IamSoSad> !lvm-rescue
[10:46] <IamSoSad> !xfs
[10:47] <IamSoSad> !glx
[10:47] <IamSoSad> !opengl
[10:47] <bekks> IamSoSad: would you mind to stop that? :)
[10:47] <ifemide> bekks: doing that now
[10:48] <IamSoSad> bekks: yes, I did
[10:48] <c0nd0rr> MonkeyDust, thanks should do the trick, i dont want default ubuntu desktop but just leaving off the apt install at the end should solve that :)
[10:48] <ifemide> bekks: http://pastebin.com/B2iCHNPU
[10:49] <bekks> ifemide: Thats a 64bit CPU - so there is no problem at all.
[10:50] <ifemide> bekks: Thanks
[10:50] <ifemide> bekks: So that I can know, what pointed you to that
[10:52] <innocent95> morning
[10:52] <innocent95> bekks
[10:55] <innocent95> bekks, I've installed 14.04 alongside with the 13.04 and i got three OSs in the grub (Linux secured12) Ubuntu and my windows 8, which is okay, now i want to remove the linux secured 12 it's the 13.04 i guess
[11:00] <bekks> "linux secured 12"?
[11:01] <innocent95> bekks, Yes, i don't know what it is but i think it's 13.04
[11:01] <innocent95> Yes it is 13.04
[11:02] <robotdevil> !mp3
[11:02] <innocent95> it doesn't matter, How can i remove it ?
[11:02] <addiks> hi, i am using 14.04 with linux-3.14rc4 (custom build, i need 3.14 for my trackpad) on a macbook-pro-retina-late2013 (Intel graphics only). Everything works so far except for suspend. Whenever i try to suspend it, it just put's me to the login screen instead of going to sleep. How to fix that?
[11:03] <bekks> innocent95: Remove the partition where 13.04 resides on. Update grub afterwards.
[11:03] <bekks> innocent95: And ensure you are not using grub of 13.04
[11:03] <innocent95> bekks, How to ensure ?
[11:04] <innocent95> The version written on the grub ?
[11:09] <melodie> that was #ubuntu-app-devel
[11:11] <Armag3dd0n1> banana?
[11:13] <someHuman> Hello!
[11:14] <someHuman> So I was just reading Linux System Admin., one of the ##linux folks told me reading up system and networking admin. on a specific distro would likely get a job rather than looking up linux system and netwokring admin. as a whole.
[11:14] <someHuman> If that's so, where should I start?
[11:14] <someHuman> I am running 14.04 LTS.
[11:15] <CanYouHelpYesYou> This is not really linux related but is there someone in here with over 3 mbit down that could check my stream and see if it's lagging or not?
[11:16] <Armag3dd0n1> i have 160mbps so i can check
[11:17] <osse> Did Ubuntu swïtch from assuming the hardware clock is localtime to assuming it's UTC ?
[11:22] <zubuntu> hi
[11:22] <iDevelop> zubuntu: hi
[11:23] <ice9> is it possible to make the builtin speakers and headphones work at the same time?
[11:23] <zubuntu> i wanna ask a question but it is offtopic :s
[11:23] <zubuntu> about SSD drives
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <ctrl> hello
[11:30] <ctrl> anyone available for a few questions ??
[11:30] <cfhowlett> !ask|ctrl
[11:31] <ctrl> !ask got a problem on softwareupdate on ubuntu 13.04
[11:32] <cfhowlett> ctrl 13.04 has reached end of life and is no longer supported.  time to upgrade
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade
[11:33] <someHuman> Is this a good place to start with Ubuntu System Administration and then look for a job?
[11:33] <ctrl> ok, that might help a bit
[11:34] <cfhowlett> someHuman building, breaking and fixing systems is probably more educational.  look up "linux from scratch" and get busy.
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> someHuman  this is the support channel, ask your questions here
[11:34] <someHuman> cfhowlett: I need a job soon :(
[11:35] <llutz> someHuman: not this way, you're still OT
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> someHuman  read some books
[11:35] <cfhowlett> someHuman this aint the employment channel, amigo.
[11:35] <someHuman> OT?
[11:35] <melodie> MonkeyDust my issue is solved
[11:35] <llutz> !ot |so
[11:35] <llutz> !ot | someHuman
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !ot| someHuman
[11:35] <someHuman> Ah ok.
[11:35] <melodie> I read here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1015797
[11:35] <melodie> saw someone talk about polkit:
[11:35] <someHuman> Coding in C is what I really do, but my skills aren't that competent enough yet.
[11:36] <someHuman> But thanks for the tips guys.
[11:36] <melodie> happened that I had done some changes in the configuration and forgot to manage to have the polkit authentication launched with the session. bug is mine, and is fixed. :)
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> melodie  remind me?
[11:36] <melodie> software-center not downloading packages
[11:36] <glass> hello how can i remove headers for current kernel?
[11:36] <melodie> and probably usb-creator-gtk not installing the bootloader for the same reason, I'll check later
[11:37] <llutz> glass: sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:37] <melodie> MonkeyDust I'll have to tell IamSoSad but he is not here anymore
[11:37] <melodie> have to go now, thanks for moral support and nice day to all!
[11:40] <glass> llutz: yes but in this way show me a message which tell me that "linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic" will be updated and at the moment i don't want t
[11:41] <llutz> glass: sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-$(uname -r)             and be prepared to break your system
[11:42] <glass> llutz: it's a dangerous command?
[11:42] <llutz> glass: "man dpkg"
[11:42] <Ben64> glass: why do you want to do something like that anyway
[11:43] <ctrl> !ask how do i get my version upgraded, when the software-update returns error
[11:43] <glass> Ben64: i need to free space, and also 100mb is good for me
[11:44] <OerHeks> ctrl, fix the error
[11:44] <Ben64> ctrl: start off by pastebinning the output of "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[11:44] <ctrl> dont know the error, i dont have a detail option
[11:45] <Ben64> glass: start with removing older unused kernels, or sudo apt-get autoclean
[11:45] <ctrl> Ben> where should i put the output, i dont think i will to popular if i do it here
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> glass  this line shows the largest files, delete the ones you don't need     find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[11:46] <glass> Ben64: thanks, i've already removed the old ones
[11:46] <Ben64> ctrl: a pastebin, like i said. paste.ubuntu.com , pastebin.com , sprunge.us and many others to choose from
[11:46] <glass> MonkeyDust: ok thank you
[11:47] <ctrl> Ben> thx.. ( im not that familiar with pasebin, i look it up)
[11:47] <iDevelop> ctrl: nice one is here --> p.kk7.me
[11:50] <llutz> iDevelop: don't expect people following links to unknown paste-sites
[11:50] <iDevelop> llutz: not expecting people to do anything, I'm just recommending a site that I use
[11:53] <ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7435475/
[11:54] <ice9> how to let applications send their sound output to certain device, like internal speak and headphone?
[11:54] <Ben64> ctrl: wait what are you trying to do? you're on 13.04, which is no longer supported
[11:54] <ctrl> was just told, so im trying to update
[11:55] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | ctrl
[11:55] <Ben64> follow the steps the bot gave you, should get you to 13.10
[11:55] <cfhowlett> !eolupgradde|ctrl   can't update.  you need to upgrade to a supported OS; 14.04 is current
[11:55] <Ben64> then you can upgrade again to 14.04
[11:56] <ctrl> thx ben
[11:56] <vaskozl> I'm trying to update to tahr here following the official documentation. I experience the exact same problem as http://askubuntu.com/questions/456791/can-not-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04 , where the output of 2014-05-10 13:46:43,463 DEBUG Obsolete: libcolumbus0-0-common linux-image-3.11.0-5-generic libcolumbus0-0 linux-headers-3.11.0-1-generic jitsi libisc92 linux-image-extra-3.11.0-5-generic libdns95 linux-headers-3.11.0-5-generic linux-image
[11:56] <vaskozl> 2014-05-10: command not found
[11:56] <vaskozl> fail, paste...
[11:56] <vaskozl> sorry
[11:56] <vaskozl> the output of 2014-05-10 13:46:43,463 DEBUG Obsolete: libcolumbus0-0-common linux-image-3.11.0-5-generic libcolumbus0-0 linux-headers-3.11.0-1-generic jitsi libisc92 linux-image-extra-3.11.0-5-generic libdns95 linux-headers-3.11.0-5-generic linux-image-extra-3.11.0-1-generic linux-image-3.11.0-1-generic linux-headers-3.11.0-1 ttf-liberation linux-headers-3.11.0-5
[11:57] <vaskozl> 2014-05-10: command not found
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !paste | vaskozl
[11:57] <Ben64> vaskozl: use a pastebin please
[11:57] <vaskozl> uh.. you can ban me now
[11:57] <vaskozl> it wasn't on purpose
[11:57] <ctrl> Cfhowlett> i saw u wrote this to me before, but i didnt understand, guess i had to get it 2 times :)
[11:57] <saeedullah> hello every body
[11:57] <saeedullah> i am first login to ubontu
[11:57] <cfhowlett> ctrl no worries.
[11:57] <vaskozl> ok here we go: https://gist.github.com/Vaskozl/96b77c21d8208f4b5142
[11:57] <saeedullah> plz learn and help me
[11:57] <saeedullah> to learn basic ubontu
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> saeedullah  ask your question
[11:58] <cfhowlett> !manual|saeedullah
[11:58] <MohBuntu> Good Day
[11:58] <Ben64> vaskozl: need a lot more context, what are you doing? pastebin the full command and error
[11:58] <saeedullah> how is to enable root account
[11:58] <vaskozl> so I'm trying to update to tahr 14.04 and I get the same problem as http://askubuntu.com/questions/456791/can-not-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04
[11:58] <saeedullah> ?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> !root|saeedullah
[11:58] <vaskozl> Ben64: the output is the exact same
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> saeedullah  you don't
[11:58] <MohBuntu> could some kindly assist me with setting up my Canon printer, i have been researching relentlessly online for assistance but simply cannot get it to work
[11:59] <MohBuntu> plz prvt msg me
[11:59] <MohBuntu> i would really appreciate it
[11:59] <Ben64> vaskozl: still going to need to see the full command and error
[11:59] <saeedullah> friend i am first time to login in this site
[11:59] <saeedullah> i want to learn linux who help me ?
[11:59] <vaskozl> Ben64: do-release-upgrade
[11:59] <Ben64> vaskozl: in a pastebin...
[12:00] <vaskozl> Ben64: it takes some time
[12:00] <cfhowlett> saeedullah READ the messages people send you.
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !root|saeedullah
[12:00] <MohBuntu> :) can someone send me a message
[12:00] <saeedullah> okay
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> saeedullah  learn it by using it, like we all did and like you did with other systems
[12:00] <Ben64> MohBuntu: just use this channel, we don't really do private messages here
[12:00] <saeedullah> ok
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !manual > saeedullah
[12:01] <MohBuntu> thats awesome, sooooooooooo any suggestions for printing
[12:01] <saeedullah> ok
[12:01] <MohBuntu> i found guides to install the correct drivers
[12:01] <MohBuntu> i did that
[12:01] <MohBuntu> i click print and nothibng prints
[12:01] <vaskozl> MohBuntu: you want the *FULL* output with all the dependencies being updated?
[12:01] <arun> hi all has anyone installed ubuntu in hyper-v ?
[12:01] <hotaronohanako> hi guys !!
[12:01] <MohBuntu> I have updated those too
[12:02] <MohBuntu> but just to be sure could u kindly provide me with the commands
[12:02] <vaskozl> Ben64: the full output?
[12:02] <Ben64> MohBuntu: give more details and be patient, if nobody answers you wait until someone here knows about your problem
[12:02] <Ben64> vaskozl: yep
[12:02] <ctrl> Ben/cfh> thx for ur help, seems i got the upgrade started
[12:03] <hotaronohanako> have anyone installed the sismedia driver on 14.0 ?
[12:03] <MohBuntu> Sure, i am using Ubuntu 14.04, i have a canon LBP2900 printer, i have come across many many many articles, i have tested and tried literally all of them, my printer shows up in PRINTERS.  When i try to print from any application nothing happens
[12:04] <vaskozl> Ben64: https://gist.github.com/Vaskozl/0a46bd882218049d32ac
[12:04] <vaskozl> hopefully I got it right
[12:05] <vaskozl> the command changes modes and it was really annoying to paste
[12:05] <vaskozl> when running cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log | grep Obsolete as suggested I get  https://gist.github.com/Vaskozl/96b77c21d8208f4b5142
[12:07] <vaskozl> I have performed a full dist-upgrade just prior to trying do-release-upgrade
[12:08] <vaskozl> why does the linux kernel appear in obsolete even if I have run apt-get autoremove?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> vaskozl  try apt-get clean
[12:10] <vaskozl> no ouptut
[12:10] <vaskozl> s/pt/tp/
[12:10] <k1l> vaskozl: remove the old linux-image-..... packages
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> vaskozl  or apt-get autoclean
[12:11] <vaskozl> autoclean gives nothing much either https://gist.github.com/fb86a51051ecdad4adf3
[12:11] <arun> hi all has anyone installed ubuntu in hyper-v ?
[12:11] <vaskozl> apt-get remove *everything from obsolete* ?
[12:12] <vaskozl> then again I do remember compiling kernels a long time ago
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> vaskozl  there are also 3rd party tools to remove old kernels... i use ubuntu-tweak's janitor     ubuntu-tweak.com
[12:13] <k1l> vaskozl: what about you remove the old kernel packages?
[12:13] <vaskozl> k1l: I'm doing that right now
[12:13] <diclincha4> any of you nvidia optimus?
[12:14] <vaskozl> diclincha4: I do
[12:14] <k1l> but be aware of letting at least one kernel installed :)
[12:14] <diclincha4> what DE ?
[12:14] <vaskozl> k1l: I'll try :D
[12:14] <vaskozl> diclincha4: none
[12:16] <arun> hello guyss
[12:16] <arun> anyone there in this ubuntu planet?
[12:17] <vaskozl> I really hate commands that change modes and clear screens , before after they are done
[12:18] <vaskozl> do-release-upgrade is a pain :/
[12:18] <someHuman1> I am trying to use the terminal command alt+f to move one word forward, but File from the menu bar shows up instead.
[12:18] <vaskozl> I've boiled it down to: 2014-05-10 14:17:47,339 DEBUG Obsolete: libcolumbus0-0 libcolumbus0-0-common libdns95 ttf-liberation libisc92
[12:18] <vaskozl> so no more kernels!
[12:18] <cfhowlett> arun ask your ubuntu questions
[12:19] <vaskozl> but still, the exact sarme error
[12:19] <vaskozl> do I just go ahead and remove the ones left?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> vaskozl  what was your initial issue?
[12:19] <arun> cfhowlett: yes, how can i install ubuntu in hyper-v
[12:20] <cfhowlett> arun don't know - never touched hyper-v.  sorry.
[12:20] <vaskozl> MonkeyDust: same as this http://askubuntu.com/questions/456791/can-not-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04
[12:20] <vaskozl> the full output that I could manage was https://gist.github.com/Vaskozl/0a46bd882218049d32ac
[12:21] <k1l> vaskozl: what are you trying to do?
[12:21] <vaskozl> I'm trying to update ubuntu 13.10 to ubunted 14.04 using the do-relase-upgrade tool
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> vaskozl  try removing the PPA's, first, is my guess
[12:22] <vaskozl> MonkeyDust: do-relase-upgrade stops to tell me that it will disable the PPA's which can be reenabled later
[12:22] <k1l> well that are a lot of PPAs. i bet they mixed some stuff
[12:22] <vaskozl> I have little experience with PPA managing
[12:23] <vaskozl> what would you suggest I do?
[12:23] <k1l> vaskozl: yes, but the changed packages from that PPA can still cause trouble
[12:24] <vaskozl> k1l: what would that imply I have to do?
[12:25] <k1l> vaskozl: ppa-purge
[12:26] <vaskozl> k1l: any options in specific?
[12:26] <k1l> !ppa-purge | vaskozl
[12:26] <pavlus> Hello, clicking "Find something to read" on www.medium.com in Google Chrome running on Ubuntu 14.04 with Unity leads to display going off. I cannot even switch to console with Ctrl-Alt-Fx. Can anyone confirm this is happening universally, or is it just my system?
[12:27] <vaskozl> k1l: well the problem here being that I have no idea which ppa is required to be removed
[12:32] <MohBuntu> vaskozl,  thats the problem with linux, lol u need to be a rocket scientist to figure out  a problem or which stuff is required to be installed or uninstalled
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> MohBuntu  no FUD here, please
[12:32] <Sohron> MohBuntu: no that's not the case :D
[12:32] <someHuman> Is this inputrc file going to be created by me? This tutorial, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal,  says that I should copy/paste this code into a file named inputrc, not sure if it is already existing.
[12:32] <MohBuntu> hehe i appologise
[12:33] <vaskozl> someHuman: not by default in your home directory
[12:33] <MohBuntu> im a newbie to this
[12:33] <someHuman> vaskozl: Ah ok, thanks! So I am going to create it.
[12:33] <MohBuntu> and i like ubuntu, hehe aside from getting ma hardware working
[12:33] <vaskozl> someHuman: yup
[12:33] <vaskozl> MohBuntu: usuallly that the problme the first month when you have a new laptop
[12:34] <MohBuntu> if i may ask hw did u guys go about learning linux
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> MohBuntu  trial and error, by using it
[12:34] <MohBuntu> any good books worth buying, i ask because i noticed there are like hundreds of distros
[12:34] <vaskozl> what I'm really annoyed by is that the installed just says; An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.`
[12:34] <vaskozl> and then blutnly quits
[12:34] <vaskozl> s/tn/nt
[12:34] <cfhowlett> MohBuntu breaking and fixing a system is quite educational as is "Linux from Scratch".
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> MohBuntu  how did you learn windows/mac?
[12:35] <massimiliano> ciao a tuutti
[12:35] <MohBuntu> :) i see ur point MonkeyDust
[12:35] <MohBuntu> so its patience
[12:35] <cfhowlett> MohBuntu http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[12:35] <MohBuntu> thank you cfhowlett
[12:35] <cfhowlett> MohBuntu enjoy
[12:36] <vaskozl> how many of you actually read books when yo learnt to use GNU/Linux?
[12:36] <vaskozl> when you don't know how to do something -> look it up
[12:36] <vaskozl> that how you learn to use a new system
[12:37] <MohBuntu> vaskozl,  :) i agree with u, research yes, but what does one do, when after weeks of researching the solutions still dont work
[12:37] <MohBuntu> i think i just answered my own situation
[12:37] <MohBuntu> patience and start from scratch
[12:37] <vaskozl> MohBuntu: not really, you will find that when you have a comfortable setup you will really not wanna start from scratch
[12:38] <cfhowlett> MohBuntu and record steps and failed/successful solutions
[12:38] <vaskozl> just because of how you have to set all the software up again
[12:38] <someHuman> Is this a good place to start on System Administration? http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz Ubuntu to be specific.
[12:39] <someHuman> Or better yet, is it applicable to multiple distros?
[12:39] <someHuman> Seems legit though.
[12:39] <MohBuntu> ok thanks guys, for the tips, ill sure stay in touch here, im off to experiementing with Python and MySQL on ubuntu
[12:39] <kkkk> i want to try new distribution of linux. which one should i go for ? Till now i have been using ubuntu 12.04
[12:39] <cfhowlett> someHuman dude.  we already advised you; install ubuntu server.  break it.  fix it.  learn it.
[12:39] <someHuman> cfhowlett: Ok, thanks!
[12:39] <cfhowlett> kkkk ask in ##linux
[12:39] <vaskozl> someHuman:looks fine
[12:39] <cfhowlett> someHuman http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-map/
[12:39] <someHuman> vaskozl: Thanks!
[12:40] <llutz> someHuman: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/
[12:41] <someHuman> llutz: It says obsolete lol.
[12:41] <vaskozl> Guest92018: a new distribution won't provide you with much other than a different package manager
[12:41] <someHuman> But how about my link guys?
[12:41] <someHuman> I got that from Ubuntu's CLI guide.
[12:41] <llutz> someHuman: sry i'd check my bookmarks...
[12:41] <vaskozl> someHuman: first thing is to get comfortable with GNU/Linux
[12:41] <Guest92018> vaskozl: isn't debain not more stable ?
[12:42] <vaskozl> this means that you have to be able to do everything you would do before on the other systems with little to no problems
[12:42] <vaskozl> when you have done that, and are looking for more power and shortcuts
[12:42] <vaskozl> so that you can work faste and more efficiently
[12:42] <vaskozl> you should really read the basics of the bash shell
[12:42] <vaskozl> which is by far one of the most usefull aspects of any system for the power user
[12:42] <someHuman> vaskozl: Yeah, is my link good though?
[12:43] <vaskozl> someHuman: I guess, I'm just saying that it's not necessary
[12:43] <vaskozl> knowing how to change your username and password from the command line is not a priority
[12:43] <vaskozl> because I've never changed my password
[12:43] <MohBuntu> ./quit Lead with Motivation, Inspire with Passion
[12:43] <someHuman> vaskozl: I want a System Administrator job or Networking Admin. job.
[12:44] <someHuman> I am a networking admin. student but for Windows :(
[12:44] <compdoc> someHuman, good luck with that
[12:44] <someHuman> I don't like the environment, it is so closed.
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> someHuman  read books, break and fix systems
[12:44] <cfhowlett> someHuman LPCI is your basic entry credential
[12:44] <vaskozl> someHuman: that would require knowledge  the bash shell, the perl language and functions of the *nix system
[12:44] <someHuman> vaskozl: So network admin is probably easier right?
[12:44] <vaskozl> someHuman: more universal as such
[12:45] <vaskozl> a unix system administrator is very different from a windows one
[12:45] <someHuman> vaskozl: Yup it is.
[12:45] <vaskozl> even though it has a lot in common with OS X system administration
[12:45] <someHuman> vaskozl: By universal, do you also mean easier than system administering?
[12:45] <vaskozl> someHuman: I'm not one so I can't tell you :D
[12:46] <someHuman> vaskozl: Yup, I just fiddled with uni macs the other day. Even wrote a C program ;)
[12:46] <someHuman> vaskozl: But where do I learn more?
[12:46] <vaskozl> but what I meant was that the network was independent of the system the clients are running
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> someHuman  start here (example) http://reallylinux.com/docs/admin.shtml
[12:46] <someHuman> Maybe probably networking admin.
[12:46] <cfhowlett> someHuman earn your LPCI
[12:46] <vaskozl> someHuman: use the system day to day
[12:46] <someHuman> cfhowlett: Yes sir.
[12:46] <vaskozl> and you will find a lot of promblems, which will often ruquire you to invent your own solution
[12:47] <someHuman> cfhowlett: That's all I have to do? Read it then do the exam? Do I pay for anything rather than the exam?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> someHuman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LPIC
[12:47] <someHuman> vaskozl: Ah, so networking admin. because it doesn't rely much on system right?
[12:49] <someHuman> cfhowlett: What do you think of this link? https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/
[12:49] <Sohron> vaskozl: recent OS X versions are indeed certified UNIX, so no need to say it's close
[12:50] <cfhowlett> someHuman I suggest you either take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or to ##linux    The latter will likely offer my precise information for you.
[12:50] <someHuman> cfhowlett: I am reading on your link now ;)
[12:56] <someHuman> cfhowlett: Is this still relevant today? http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-map/
[12:56] <someHuman> The articles are said to be from 2009?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> someHuman it is.
[12:56] <cfhowlett> someHuman again:  ##linux channel would know more about current free resources
[12:58] <someHuman> cfhowlett: Thanks!
[13:04] <man> hey! Anyone here?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> man only a few thousand.  ask ubuntu questions.
[13:05] <man> Well... So I tried to install Ubuntu as a dual boot over my win8.1 system
[13:05] <man> unfortunately, I managed to combine the partitions of my windows
[13:05] <Davina18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bitly.com/1gAh6Jy
[13:06] <man> and remove windows completely! Along with all the data
[13:06] <man> any way of recovering it
[13:08] <man> well... anyone?
[13:09] <juiced> man: did you get as far as formatting the partition to ext3/4?
[13:10] <man> Not really
[13:10] <man> Nope
[13:10] <man> I just gave it for default n left it
[13:10] <jackbrown> hello is there anyoody available to help me setting my DLNA server ? the server is running but the share doesn't show anything thanks for helping
[13:10] <man> now neither is there a dual boot option nor can I see the files
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !server|jackbrown might be good to ask the server folk
[13:10] <juiced> man: So Ubuntu successfully installed?
[13:10] <man> juiced: yyeah
[13:11] <OerHeks>  man you can try testdisk, not sure it reverses the format
[13:11] <man> tried
[13:12] <man> it shows the format present
[13:12] <man> but can't recover
[13:12] <man> also one more thing
[13:12] <man> "Windows Network" shows in "Browse networks" area
[13:13] <juiced> man: Could be another computer on your lan broadcasting its mdns name.
[13:13] <man> surely no
[13:14] <man> additionally.... even though this isn't ubuntu, I think this would be a perfect example
[13:14] <man> https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?21284-Grub-doesnt-see-Windows-8-1-after-installation-Kali
[13:14] <OerHeks> ah you installed kali ?
[13:15] <hjkhl> man: do you need the data from windows or do you need to recover windows via the recovery partition which is now erased?
[13:15] <man> Just the data
[13:16] <man> I really don't care about the windows
[13:16] <juiced> man: Could be a grub issue perhaps. Is it showing on your grub menu?
[13:16] <OerHeks> kali is not supported here, man
[13:16] <juiced> man: Win 8.1 I mean.
[13:16] <man> OerHeks: That was the closest to what I was looking for
[13:16] <man> juiced: no! That isn't showing
[13:17] <juiced> man: Can you look in gparted or Gnome disks and see if the Windows partition is still there?
[13:19] <man> doesn't show in it juiced
[13:20] <man> gparted shows 1 ext4 file system on 500Gig space
[13:20] <man> that is it
[13:21] <OerHeks> ṁan put in your windows dvd and try to recover ?
[13:24] <someHuman> cfhowlett: Dude, the site underwent maintenance http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-map/
[13:24] <man> OerHeks: I don't have a windows disk! Had a iso in the HDD
[13:24] <man> now it is all gone :'(
[13:24] <hjkhl> man: i think you need a recovery software if you want the data back
[13:24] <juiced> man: I'm no expert on forensic data recovery. You may just have to try anything you can find like testdisk, etc.
[13:25] <cfhowlett> someHuman library.  LPCI titles.
[13:26] <llutz> !ot | someHuman you have been told several times now, please respect the rules here
[13:26] <jwmto2> hello, I'm having an authentication problem with dropbox on ubuntu 14.04.  Can anyone talk me through a fix?  I've not succeeded following directions like http://blog.ishans.info/2013/12/26/fixing-authentication-is-needed-to-run-usrbindropbox-as-the-super-user-error-in-linux/
[13:26] <juiced> man: Look on the bright side. You're "all in" on Linux now. This is actually a good thing. Shame about the lost data though.
[13:27] <cfhowlett> man backup the backups!  but you knew that ...
[13:27] <man> juiced: I don't really care about my windows! Only the 200Gigs of data I wanted -_-
[13:28] <man> I should have done that
[13:28] <man> -_-
[13:28] <man> but 200Gigs ain't easy to backup someplace else :P
[13:28] <llutz> man: in times 2TB drives cost nearly nothing?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> man external HDD costs - what?  $100 these days.  Anyway, pretty sure you'll backup from henceforth
[13:30] <jwmto2> backups are wonderful.  May I ask again: I'm having an authentication problem with dropbox on ubuntu 14.04.  Can anyone talk me through a fix?  I've not succeeded following directions like http://blog.ishans.info/2013/12/26/fixing-authentication-is-needed-to-run-usrbindropbox-as-the-super-user-error-in-linux/
[13:30] <man> i know I know!! I already have a gig backup
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !patience|jwmto2
[13:30] <jwmto2> thnx bot
[13:31] <man> and now the irc hates me :(
[13:36]  * KGM70 waves
[13:38] <juiced> jwmto2: Is it worth trying an uninstall (apt-get purge to clean out everything) of Dropbox and reinstalling it?
[13:39] <jwmto2> juiced
[13:39] <jwmto2> i've tried the reinstall tactic but not the purging
[13:40] <juiced> jwmto2: All purge does extra is take out the config files from /etc. Also look for stray ones in your home folder.
[13:41] <david90125> using Xubuntu 14.4 and it will install unity but won't select it or offer it on login screen... ideas?
[13:41] <jwmto2> Thanks, I'll try and be back
[13:41] <g1> Somebody help me with my wireless connection problem?
[13:41] <Armag3dd0n1> can i make tlp use battery mode when on ac?
[13:42] <Fraym> david90125: Have you looked in /usr/share/xsessions to see if it's there?
[13:42] <juiced> jwmto2: "find / -name dropbox" will show anything left over.
[13:43] <whitebyte> my system has slowed very much and even hangs a lot. if i send log files of my system. Can anybody help diagnose the problem ?
[13:43] <whitebyte> i'm using ubuntu 12.04
[13:43] <david90125> it isn't... odd
[13:43] <Fraym> whitebyte: Have you installed your graphic drivers correctly?
[13:44] <Fraym> david90125: That's where the desktop manager gets it's session information, it must not be correctly installed
[13:45] <whitebyte> i think so. because i have been using this system from past 9 months. and now it is creating problems
[13:45] <Fraym> whitebyte: Provide the output of: "glxinfo | grep vendor" and see what that pops up
[13:46] <monoton> is there a parameter to find or other command that let me search for files with filenames that is outside latin1 ?
[13:46] <sabgenton> is btrfs using commpression by default?
[13:46] <whitebyte> Fraym: glxinfo not insalled
[13:47] <Fraym> whitebyte: "sudo apt-get install glxinfo" and try again
[13:47] <cfhowlett> juiced did you install dropbox with apt-get or dpkg?
[13:48] <zykotick9> Fraym: fyi, it's mesa-utils that contains glxinfo.  whitebyte i doubt it's your graphics...  best of luck.
[13:48] <KGM70> whitebyte, sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[13:48] <Fraym> zykotick9: Right, thanks for clearing that up
[13:48] <Fraym> I forgot it's not installed by default
[13:48] <whitebyte> KGM76: i ran this command this
[13:48] <amal852> fraym:
[13:49] <whitebyte> this running
[13:49] <whitebyte> should i stop ?
[13:49] <Fraym> whitebyte: Are you running "sudo apt-get install mesa-utils"?
[13:49] <whitebyte> yes
[13:50] <Fraym> whitebyte: In that case, no :)
[13:50] <Fraym> whitebyte: You might have to enter "y"...
[13:50] <Di881> Hi! Is someone using docker? Nobody responding in the main channel. Does anyone of you know if it's possible to rename a running instance
[13:51] <Fraym> whitebyte: After that provide the output of "glxinfo | grep vendor"
[13:51] <juiced> cfhowlett: Pretty sure it was from the Software Centre that I installed Dropbox.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> juiced apt-get purge then.
[13:53] <Guest87930> hi may be who knows how setting 3g modem ZTE MF180 to beeline sim
[13:53] <whitebyte> Fraym: http://pastebin.com/u19VJBQN
[13:53] <innocent95> Hi there, is there a skype for Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[13:54] <amal852> #noel
[13:54] <cfhowlett> innocent95 software center or download directly from skype.com
[13:54] <innocent95> okay
[13:54] <monkay> Innocent: yes there's
[13:54] <k1l> !skype | innocent95
[13:54] <Dvorovoi> innocent95: it liks to crash me
[13:54] <Fraym> whitebyte: Mhh, it seems like the drivers are fine
[13:54] <amal852> #ubottu
[13:55] <Fraym> whitebyte: What kind of problem do you have, hanging windows, slow launching?
[13:55] <k1l> amal852: you got a ubuntu support question?
[13:55] <whitebyte> slow launching at the startup
[13:55] <whitebyte> and the system hangs while trasnferring data
[13:55] <amal852> no thanks i try to learn how chat work here
[13:56] <cfhowlett> !ot|amal852
[13:56] <KGM70> whitebyte, have you updated/upgraded your packages lately?
[13:57] <Fraym> KGM70: Yes, because it seems more like a software bug...
[13:58] <whitebyte> i have some updates pending! I will the system and let you guys know
[13:58] <Fraym> whitebyte: Alright :)
[13:59] <Fraym> whitebyte: Remember to always update your software
[14:00] <ronaldsmazitis> hello
[14:00] <Fraym> ronaldsmazitis: Hi
[14:00] <ronaldsmazitis> my ubuntu can't start anymore
[14:00] <ronaldsmazitis> it says it can't start session
[14:00] <ronaldsmazitis> my user and second user for others
[14:00] <Fraym> ronaldsmazitis: When logging in?
[14:00] <ronaldsmazitis> yes
[14:01] <k1l> ronaldsmazitis: guest user or other user didnt work?
[14:01] <ronaldsmazitis> yes
[14:01] <ronaldsmazitis> I'm from live cd now
[14:01] <abetusk> ap
[14:01] <ronaldsmazitis> I had everything working, apache with php, mysql, some other software
[14:01] <ronaldsmazitis> Trusty Tahr logo reminds me satan
[14:02] <k1l> wait? we talk about a seerver?
[14:02] <ronaldsmazitis> it was desktop
[14:02] <k1l> what did you do before that did not work anymore?
[14:02] <ronaldsmazitis> it froze on video files
[14:02] <ronaldsmazitis> so I restarted
[14:02] <k1l> what exact errormessages do you get? what does syslog and dmesg tell you?
[14:03] <ronaldsmazitis> it said, can't start session in latvian
[14:03] <k1l> (see in /var/log/syslog and dmesg on the harddisk)
[14:04] <ronaldsmazitis> :<
[14:04] <ronaldsmazitis> ubuntu fails again
[14:04] <ronaldsmazitis> ok
[14:04] <pavlusin> Hello, clicking "Find something to read" on www.medium.com in Google Chrome running on Ubuntu 14.04 with Unity leads to display going off. I cannot even switch to console with Ctrl-Alt-Fx. Can anyone confirm this is happening universally, or is it just my system?
[14:05] <ronaldsmazitis> I should buy another dvd for another system
[14:05] <parv_> YOLO
[14:05] <innocent95> I can't hear people inside skype after i've installed it ?
[14:05] <Fraym> pavlusin: I'll try to reproduce
[14:06] <pavlusin> Fraym, thanky you
[14:06] <Fraym> innocent95: Try tweaking your sound settings in the settings menu, it might not have been configured right for Skype yet
[14:06] <Fraym> innocent95: I had the same issue
[14:06] <k1l> pavlusin: works here
[14:07] <k1l> innocent95: did you see the link form the bot if there is a FAQ?
[14:07] <ronaldsmazitis> I am pasting syslog
[14:07] <ronaldsmazitis> right now
[14:07] <k1l> !skype | innocent95
[14:09] <Fraym> pavlusin: It's working fine with Chromium here...
[14:09] <ifemide> What's the ubuntu equivalent for the sound file /etc/modprobe.conf
[14:09] <innocent95> okay
[14:09] <ifemide> I've been locating that. Saw it from an article but can't find it for edit on my machine
[14:09] <Fraym> pavlusin: Maybe try opening it with Firefox and see if you get the same results
[14:10] <ronaldsmazitis> There was a problem opening the file “/media/ubuntu/3da60315-d…9e6a102f6c/var/log/syslog”.
[14:10] <ronaldsmazitis> why ubuntu brings these problems
[14:10] <mzaza> Is it possible to use discrette graphics card in VM, without having vT-d support?
[14:11] <osolus> How do I disable the sticky edges on the unity desktop?
[14:12] <k1l> osolus: see unity-tweak-tool
[14:12] <osolus> oh thank yuo
[14:12] <osolus> nice response time
[14:12] <Fraym> osolus: Or use Settings>Displays
[14:12] <osolus> I did that already but it's still there
[14:12] <Fraym> osolus: Mh, weird, use Unity-tweak-tool then
[14:13] <osolus> I want to use the desktop cube, how do I add more virtual desktops?
[14:13] <ronaldsmazitis> it's been 3 days with ubuntu 14.04 failing from start and begging
[14:13] <k1l> in that tool, too
[14:13] <pavlusin> Fraym, in firefox it opens fine, I just dont appreciate screen going dark, just because I visited certain webpage. But it is probably too esoteric of a bug. Thank you for your time.
[14:13] <osolus> gotcha
[14:13] <llutz> ifemide: create a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[14:14] <ifemide> ok llutz thanks
[14:14] <ronaldsmazitis> why my session couldn't start
[14:14] <ronaldsmazitis> ?
[14:14] <ronaldsmazitis> syslog is damaged
[14:14] <Fraym> ronaldsmazitis: Hard drive failure? Because that is weird
[14:14] <ronaldsmazitis> can I check health of hard drive from live cd
[14:15] <Fraym> ronaldsmazitis: Try that
[14:15] <ronaldsmazitis> with what?
[14:15] <Fraym> ronaldsmazitis: Oh misunderstood, I thought you said "I can check"
[14:15] <k1l> ronaldsmazitis: try the harddisk tool.
[14:15] <Fraym> ^
[14:16] <k1l> ronaldsmazitis: gnome-disk-utility
[14:17] <osolus> I was really impressed when I let ubuntu's latest stable release try to resize a 1TB partition to 800GB and 200GB partitions, I was prepared to wait 3+hours and it took only 5 minutes.
[14:17] <osolus> how did it do that so fast?
[14:18] <ronaldsmazitis> ubuntu newest version has trusty tahr satanic image when installing
[14:19] <osolus> I love that image
[14:19] <osolus> I love goats
[14:19] <cfhowlett> ronaldsmazitis it's not satanic.  stop spreading nonesense and FUD
[14:19] <Fraym> ronaldsmazitis: trusty tahr satanic image?
[14:19] <ronaldsmazitis> + none of stuff worked, and when I got it working, my session fails
[14:19] <ronaldsmazitis> now
[14:19] <ronaldsmazitis> it took like 2 days to get apache 2.4.7 work with php
[14:19] <Fraym> ronaldsmazitis: Did you have any data on there you need?
[14:19] <osolus> I pray to benevolent goat-gods
[14:19] <ronaldsmazitis> maybe goat isn't satanic
[14:19] <Fraym> osolus: I love the goat gods
[14:20] <k1l> ronaldsmazitis: after you seeing here the last days i dont think the issue is on ubuntu. please give exact error messages and logs or stop just ranting in here
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !ot|ronaldsmazitis
[14:20] <osolus> best of both worlds
[14:20] <osolus> awe
[14:20] <nith1210> osolus: my guess, resizeing a partition without changing where the partition starts is significantly less work.
[14:20] <IdleOne> maybe we need to stick to officially supported releases and stay away from off topic chit chat in here please
[14:20] <ronaldsmazitis> why I can't start session then
[14:20] <ronaldsmazitis> for guest and my user
[14:20] <josmala> How can I add library in anjuta so that I can actually build binary with SDL2 and not just get past a compiler?
[14:21] <osolus> well, I put a lot of work into installing gentoo and didn't want to loose it, but seeing ubuntu running on my machine I wonder why I wasted all that time with gentoo.
[14:21] <k1l> ronaldsmazitis: get the logs and error messages like told several times now
[14:21] <ronaldsmazitis> I can't file is corrupted
[14:21] <OerHeks> ronaldsmazitis, current apache is 2.4.7, so maybe your unsupported apache is messing up?
[14:21] <ronaldsmazitis> what?
[14:22] <ronaldsmazitis> I tried to launch video, it lagged, I restarted and session is now lost
[14:22] <ronaldsmazitis> can't start it
[14:22] <ronaldsmazitis> syslog file is corrupted
[14:22] <Fraym> ronaldsmazitis: dmesg?
[14:22] <ronaldsmazitis> I should restart and get away from this chat
[14:22] <ronaldsmazitis> right?
[14:22] <ronaldsmazitis> ok
[14:23] <ronaldsmazitis> but ubuntu ruins my life
[14:23] <ronaldsmazitis> right now
[14:23] <Armag3dd0n1> banana?
[14:23] <Fraym> Armag3dd0n1: ?
[14:23] <Armag3dd0n1> :p
[14:23] <Fraym> Armag3dd0n1: yes
[14:23] <ronaldsmazitis> trusty tahr lost all the trust
[14:24] <cfhowlett> ronaldsmazitis then don't use it.
[14:24] <ronaldsmazitis> + it's satan probably
[14:24] <pleasehelpp> hi I'm new to Ubuntu and really need help
[14:24] <Fraym> ronaldsmazitis: If you're only going to complain about Ubuntu, don't do that here
[14:24] <Fraym> pleasehelpp: What help do you need?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !ask|pleasehelpp
[14:25] <pleasehelpp> I tried searching and posting on Ubuntu forums and no one responded. my issue is that /tmp is not ready when I turn on 14.04
[14:25] <pleasehelpp> sorry, I'm on my phone because my computer is messed up now.,
[14:26] <Fraym> pleasehelpp: Are you able to boot into the login screen?
[14:28] <Armag3dd0n1> banana?
[14:28] <Armag3dd0n1> i got an obsession :p
[14:28] <cfhowlett> Armag3dd0n1 take it elsewhere please.
[14:28] <Armag3dd0n1> lolk!
[14:29] <pleasehelpp> yes, I can log into the terminal
[14:32] <pleasehelpp> I am uploading video from my phone so hopefully been issue is a bit clearer
[14:32] <pleasehelpp> hopefully my*
[14:33] <_ramok> hi
[14:33] <_ramok> how can i upgrade curl 7.22 from on a ubuntu 12.04 LTS machine to a later version?
[14:33] <_ramok> it seems like there are a lot of deps
[14:33] <bitbuzzer> hi. Is there a "main" function in bash scripts?
[14:34] <bitbuzzer> one which gets called by default?
[14:34] <nith1210> bitbuzzer: it starts from the top. There's no call. Also, #bash will probably be able to help you a bit better than here.
[14:35] <bitbuzzer> nith1210: thx
[14:35] <pleasehelpp> Ubuntu issue: http://youtu.be/JaFYB7-QF6Y
[14:35] <OerHeks> pleasehelpp, error private video
[14:37] <pleasehelpp> sorry about that Oerheks, try now?
[14:37] <Fraym> pleasehelpp: Working for me now
[14:37] <WLM|weg> Does anyone use OpenShot?
[14:37] <WLM|weg> I have a serious problem now
[14:38] <cfhowlett> WLM|weg join us in #ubuntustudio
[14:39] <Fraym> pleasehelpp: It seems like it's incorrectly installed...
[14:39] <pleasehelpp> okay, should I uninstall from windows and try again using wubi?
[14:39] <Fraym> pleasehelpp: It's unable to mount your harddrive
[14:40] <Fraym> pleasehelpp: Best bet, also backup your data before any changes.
[14:40] <pleasehelpp> I have the download on a flash drive can I mount from there?
[14:40] <pleasehelpp> okay, thank you :)
[14:40] <k1l> pleasehelpp: dont use wubi
[14:40] <k1l> is that a wubi install?
[14:40] <pleasehelpp> yes :/
[14:41] <k1l> there you see the problems with wubi. make a real install on real partitions
[14:43] <Fraym> k1l: How do you mean, does wubi not create "real" partitions?
[14:44] <cfhowlett> Fraym wubi is no longer supported.  that should tell you somethiung.
[14:44] <k1l> Fraym: it installs into a container inside the windows install. that is going to break, its just a matter of  time
[14:44] <Fraym> cfhowlett: Indeed, thanks cfhowlett
[14:48] <pleasehelpp_> oh now I remember why I use wubi
[14:48] <Fraym> pleasehelpp_: No DVD drive?
[14:49] <pleasehelpp_> I cannot figure out the bios password on my gateway id59c
[14:49] <cfhowlett> pleasehelpp_ ask gateway for help with that.
[14:49] <pleasehelpp_> I think a USB will work the same as a DVD, yes?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> pleasehelpp_ yes
[14:49] <Fraym> pleasehelpp_: You can always reset your bios, it takes some work though
[14:50] <Fraym> pleasehelpp_: I have instructions in the manual of my motherbord to do so, maybe you do as well?
[14:58] <Dvorovoi> how do I execute a .run file?
[14:59] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: In nautilus (file manager)?
[14:59] <Dvorovoi> Fraym: well in nautilus i double clicked it and it opened in gedit
[14:59] <Dvorovoi> Fraym: so any method would be better i think
[15:00] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: Not sure how to do it in nautilus, but you can use your terminal to execute it more easily...
[15:01] <Dvorovoi> Fraym: ok how do i do that? what command?
[15:01] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: Where is the .run file located?
[15:01] <Dvorovoi> Fraym: its in my docs.
[15:01] <TJ-> Dvorovoi: A ".run" file usually contains POSIX shell script and an appended binary payload. It needs to be made executable to run it ("chmod a+x $FILE.run")
[15:01] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: Okay, open your terminal and type "cd ~/Documents"
[15:02] <Dvorovoi> Fraym: there
[15:02] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: Then make it executable with chmod +x (filename here)
[15:02] <Dvorovoi> Fraym: done
[15:02] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: Then run it like this: "./(filename here)"
[15:02] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: Then run it like this: "./(filename here).run"
[15:02] <Dvorovoi> wow
[15:03] <Dvorovoi> I didnt know "./" was a requirement
[15:03] <Dvorovoi> someone was trying to help me a while back and i was ommitting it on another script
[15:03] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: Well I didn't as well :)
[15:04] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: It runs it with bash, same as "bash (your filename).run"
[15:06] <Fraym> Dvorovoi: So settings .run files to be opened with bash by default should fix your issues. (Nautils has an option to make a file executable with: properties>permissions>Allow execution file as program
[15:07] <TJ-> Dvorovoi: "./" is needed as a prefix to run an executable in the current working directory, because by default Linux distros DO NOT include the current directory in the environment's PATH variable
[15:08] <Fraym> TJ: That explains alot, thanks for the clarification TJ
[15:12] <qstrahl> How can I change the modifier keys needed to move/resize windows with the mouse?
[15:12] <Fraym> qstrahl: Settings>keyboard>shortcuts>windows
[15:14] <qstrahl> Fraym, I'm not seeing it there. That shows the shortcut to start resizing modally but I'm looking for something like Super+Click = Move
[15:14] <sassyapril> Fraym : ?
[15:14] <lastk> Hi , is something weird with installation of postgres with ubuntu 12.04? i just do apt-get install postgres but I cant find the config folder inside /etc
[15:15] <whitebyte> Fraym, ?
[15:16] <qstrahl> I want to resize windows with Alt + RightMouse instead of Alt + MiddleMouse... where can I find that setting?
[15:18] <Fraym> qstrahl: Not sure if it's possible, I can't seem to find a way...
[15:18] <qstrahl> Don't make me cry Fraym :<
[15:18] <Fraym> qstrahl: :O
[15:20] <whitebyte> Fraym: I installed the updates, and restarted the system. The problem still persists.
[15:21] <Fraym> whitebyte: Mh, that's weird, the system ran fine before right?
[15:22] <whitebyte> yes, it's creating problems from last 15 days
[15:23] <Fraym> whitebyte: Maybe try a different WM/DE, see if the problem still occurs
[15:24] <whitebyte> Fraym, whats WM/DE ?
[15:24] <Fraym> WM= Window Manager DE = Desktop Enviroment
[15:25] <Fraym> whitebyte: AKA. The way your windows are displayed and handled with
[15:26] <whitebyte> Fraym: setting up the system again would be easier i guess!
[15:26] <Fraym> whitebyte: Try "sudo apt-get install (any wm/de, for example 'xfce')" and log out, now there should be a white circle above your name
[15:26] <ldiamond> Hi, I mounted a USB drive to /media/X. When I try to create a file or copy a file to the USB device through nautilus, I get a "The destination is read only" error. But it works just fine from the command line. Wtf?
[15:26] <Fraym> whitebyte: Maybe it's a problem that still occurs
[15:26] <Fraym> whitebyte: Even after reinstall
[15:27] <Fraym> whitebyte: The point is, it could be anything...
[15:27] <Fraym> But it could be unity, so maybe try xfce, see if the problem still occurs
[15:28] <whitebyte> Fraym, even after installing the ubuntu OS again from scratch ?
[15:28] <Fraym> whitebyte: Maybe, you could try it, but it might not work
[15:28] <Fraym> whitebyte: Try installing another WM/DE first
[15:29] <raido> anyone hav any ideas why openssh-server refuses to start on a fresh trusty install. the package installs fine but wii not run and gives no errors, its like its not installed
[15:29] <Fraym> If the problem still occurs, reinstall
[15:29] <Armag3dd0n1> how do i install ubuntu along side windows 7?
[15:29] <whitebyte> okay. i will go with xfce only for time being
[15:29] <Fraym> Armag3dd0n1: Run the installer from DVD, select install alongside Windows 7
[15:29] <k1l> Armag3dd0n1: the installer will resize windows and make partitions to install ubuntu
[15:29] <Fraym> Armag3dd0n1: BACKUP YOUR DATA
[15:29] <a7i3n> Anyone here have any recommendation as to how to clean up the boot screen after installing the nvidia driver?
[15:29] <Armag3dd0n1> so it's that simple?
[15:30] <Armag3dd0n1> i wanna test both windows and ubuntu with my battery
[15:30] <Fraym> Armag3dd0n1: If it works correctly, yes
[15:30] <TJ-> raido: Have you checked the syslog and auth.log for any clues?
[15:30] <qstrahl> So, I'm a big user of Google Hangouts, and I notice that if I enable the option which keeps Hangouts windows on top of other windows, they automatically resize and move to fill space as windows are created and destroyed
[15:30] <qstrahl> This is really interesting behaviour that I'd like some control over, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[15:30] <Fraym> Armag3dd0n1: You could also change your partitions yourself if you feel daring :)
[15:30] <roninn> what could be wrong, sometimes in the boot one of my usb drives get mounted with additional _ in the name like /media/SAMSUNG_
[15:31] <Armag3dd0n1> will try bbl
[15:31] <TJ-> roninn: "_" is appended where the mountpoint directory name already exists
[15:31] <roninn> but that's only name with something like samsung :)
[15:32] <raido> roninn: try automounting it with its blkid instead, much cleaner
[15:32] <roninn> or no
[15:32] <roninn> hmm
[15:32] <roninn> why is there an empty directory :|
[15:32] <Fraym> Talking about video drivers, is there any way to recover the Ubuntu loading screen after installing fglrx, I've been having that problem with just about any distro.
[15:33] <roninn> it seems that there is actually samsung, samsung_ and now samsung__ with two _'s
[15:33] <raido> TJ-: yes, nothing. no log errors anywhere
[15:33] <Minotaur> my ubuntu doesn't makeany sound...
[15:33] <Fraym> Minotaur: See if your audio device is present under Settings>Sound.
[15:34] <Minotaur> how to see that? I ran aplay -l , I can see my two sound devices
[15:34] <TJ-> roninn: The mountpoint name usually comes the file-system's label, and many pre-formatted USB devices use te manufacturer name
[15:35] <Fraym> Minotaur: In the settings manager of your WM/DE
[15:35] <TJ-> raido: Try starting it in debug mode: "sudo sshd -d" and check stderr
[15:36] <Fraym> Minotaur: Or use the default, can't remember the name, but gnome-control-center will do just fine
[15:36] <roninn> TJ-, should I label my partition
[15:37] <Minotaur> Fraym: I can only see privacy and printer there ...
[15:37] <Minotaur> just that two categories
[15:37] <TJ-> roninn: If you have multiple devices of the same manufacture, then it is possible one has already 'claimed' the SAMSUNG mountpoint name, and the 2nd gets the "_". Or, as I said, the mountpoint wasn't previously removed so the automounter avoids it in case something else is using it
[15:37] <Fraym> Minotaur: ... Are you using the default Ubuntu install?
[15:38] <raido> TJ-: indeed, that works, but init nor upstart recognize that it exists and will not run it
[15:38] <Minotaur> Fraym: yes I am, But I do some stuff I don't quite remember ...
[15:38] <Minotaur> Fraym: Should I reinstall the gnome-control-center?
[15:38] <TJ-> raido: So there is a "/etc/init/ssh.conf" ?
[15:39] <Fraym> Minotaur: Try that
[15:39] <raido> TJ-: yep
[15:39] <skinux> Where is config file to stop some servers (XSP, TomCat) from starting with system boot?
[15:39] <Minotaur> OK
[15:39] <Fraym> Minotaur: Also what is your output of "uname -a"
[15:39] <TJ-> raido: And is the system in multiuser (runlevel 2 through 5) mode?
[15:40] <raido> TJ-: indeed
[15:40] <roninn> TJ-, it seems that the previous mountpoint wasn't removed, hmm
[15:40] <TJ-> raido: Reading the upstart script suggests to ask, does "/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run" exist?
[15:41] <roninn> is there a way i could troubleshoot why the previous one wasn't removed. the previous samsung and samsung_ directories are just empty, probably last unmounted directories for this drive, others have another name
[15:41] <Minotaur> Fraym:` unname -a` gives me this:Linux Matrix 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:31:42 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:41] <raido> TJ-: no, it doesnt
[15:42] <TJ-> roninn: Without catching the processes at the time they should remove the mountpoints, its hard to debug. If you know they are not in use you can remove them manually.
[15:42] <Fraym> Minotaur: Seems like Ubuntu to me, try reinstalling gnome-control-centir
[15:42] <roninn> TJ-, ok
[15:42] <Fraym> Minotaur: *gnome-control-center
[15:42] <roninn> TJ-, thanks!
[15:43] <Fraym> Minotaur: You can also try "alsamixer"
[15:43] <vira> how to change ubuntu 12.04 launcher style look like ubuntu 13.04 launcher style
[15:43] <Minotaur> Fraym: I reinstalled that, seems fine...
[15:43] <osolus> I know this is a minor issue, but for some reason, the desktop cube isn't working at all and I'm not sure why, I disabled window snapping thinking that was the problem, to no avail.
[15:43] <TJ-> raido: is there a "/etc/init/ssh.override" file?
[15:43] <Fraym> Minotaur: Does sound show up?
[15:43] <Minotaur> Fraym: I have installed that mixer
[15:43] <raido> TJ-:  no
[15:44] <Fraym> Minotaur: Does it work?
[15:44] <Minotaur> Fraym: now I can see sound ...
[15:44] <Minotaur> what should I do then?
[15:44] <gsker> has anyone gotten guest resizing working with spice? qemu-kvm ubuntu host and ubuntu guest.  Cut'n'paste works and resizing working for a MS WIndows guest but not for GNU/Linux/Ubuntu
[15:44] <Fraym> Minotaur: Do you see any 0's?
[15:44] <Fraym> You can use your arrow keys to change the mixers
[15:44] <gsker> That would be the guest X desktop with the QXL driver.
[15:44] <raido> TJ-: gotta run, thanks, ill check in later
[15:44] <TJ-> raido: Then I think you need to debug the upstart script itself, maybe by making a copy, and then altering the "exec" line to be "-d" and removing the "console none" line, then starting that service instead
[15:45] <Fraym> Minotaur: Or M's
[15:45] <Minotaur> Fraym: Yes I can see, And I turned the 0's to a medium value
[15:46] <Minotaur> Fraym: yes I can see all of that
[15:46] <Fraym> Minotaur: F1 should give you info about navigation options
[15:46] <Minotaur> Fraym: F1 doesn't show anything, because it cann't load the document
[15:46] <cm-t_> Hi, I am trying to have custom setting for the Guest session in 14.04 : never change the brithness, even if afk (I am making the install of our LoCo webcafé)
[15:47] <Fraym> Minotaur: Mh, try F6 to the right device
[15:48] <Minotaur> Fraym: F6? doesn't response to me ...
[15:48] <Fraym> Minotaur: Your system seems weird...
[15:48] <barath> hi I really need so help with two thing 1st I've got some folders on my desktop with a padlock in the corner I cannot delete I think I have to be root to delete them but I am a total novice with terminal so would not know where to start?
[15:48] <Fraym> Minotaur: Are you sure you are using "alsamixer"?
[15:48] <Minotaur> in the sound setting panel>output I have a fake output...
[15:49] <Fraym> Minotaur: Can you provide some screenshots?
[15:49] <Minotaur> Fraym: oh I see, I can see devices after I pressed F6
[15:49] <Fraym> barath: Your desktop should be at ~/Desktop
[15:50] <Fraym> Minotaur: Ah great!
[15:50] <Minotaur> seems only a default device or device 0
[15:50] <Fraym> Minotaur: Try changing settings for device 0
[15:50] <barath> please could you talk me through as I don't really know what or how to delete them
[15:50] <Fraym> What are they named?
[15:50] <Fraym> barath: Open your terminal
[15:51] <barath> ok done
[15:51] <Kissmass> hi everybody, I am trying this: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/331.67/README/minimumrequirements.html and it says it requires glibc installed, but when I run apt-get install glibc it says that such a package does not exist
[15:51] <Minotaur> Fraym: noa I have turned everything in alsamixer to the max value
[15:51] <Minotaur> highest value...
[15:51] <Fraym> barath: use "cd" to change current working directory do ~/Desktop like this "cd ~/Desktop"
[15:51] <Fraym> Minotaur: Try launching "pulseaudio"
[15:51] <barath> done
[15:52] <Fraym> barath: Now type "ls -a" to show all files in directory
[15:52] <barath> done
[15:52] <Fraym> barath: Do you see the files you want to delete?
[15:53] <Kissmass> how can i get glibc installed?
[15:53] <barath> yes all of them their is 8 in total
[15:53] <Fraym> barath: Do you want to delete them all?
[15:53] <Minotaur> Fraym: OK, I ve done that
[15:53] <barath> yes please
[15:54] <Fraym> barath: Alright, type "sudo rm -rf *" in the directory ~/Desktop
[15:54] <Fraym> barath: Be careful with "rm", it does not have a recycle bin!
[15:54] <Minotaur> Fraym: now what should do then...
[15:54] <Fraym> Minotaur: Did you test your audio, did it work before?
[15:54] <gsker> Kissmass: it's probably already installed  -- it being the gnu libc  and libc is installed
[15:55] <barath> their gone thank you so much
[15:55] <gsker> Kissmass: on that page you linked, note the Check-With column that says ls /lib/libc.so.*
[15:55] <Minotaur> Fraym: Yes, it did fine. I can test it under windows, I have two os in my grub menu
[15:55] <Kissmass> gsker: so you are saying nvidia driver wouldn't nag about it?
[15:55] <Fraym> barath: No problem :)
[15:55] <barath> I have another problem which is bigger I'm not sure if you can help me
[15:55] <gsker> Kissmass: correct.
[15:56] <Fraym> barath: If you need more info about programs/commands use "man program" or
[15:56] <gsker> kissmass: as long as that "check with" is good.
[15:56] <Minotaur> what is fake output...
[15:56] <Fraym> "man man" to know more about man
[15:56] <Kissmass> gsker: thanks man, huge help
[15:56] <Kissmass> and god bless ubuntu
[15:57] <Fraym> Minotaur: Did you test your audio (did it work before) in Ubuntu?
[15:57] <barath> I have some files on my desktop previously but had to reinstall ubuntu i forgot to backup the files is their anyway I can get them back without recovering the whole drive as its a 1Tb drive it will take hours finding everything?
[15:57] <Minotaur> Fraym: yes
[15:57] <Minotaur> I can hear some sound before loged into my laptop
[15:57] <Minotaur> sometimes ...
[15:58] <Fraym> barath: Oh god, always back up your data...
[15:58] <Fraym> Minotaur: Other audio doesn't play?
[15:58] <Minotaur> Fraym: yes
[15:58] <T4b> How would I best make a cheap NAS from a bunch of (external USB) hard disks of varying age, size, reliability and speed? How well would an Odroid XU running some Ubuntu server image and using LVM work? I've never used LVM before and just started reading some docs, but it seems it's the best tool for the job? How would I handle hard drive failure with LVM?
[15:58] <vira> loosing data is crazy
[15:59] <barath> I do normally but it was a mistake it was an external hard drive with data on it I put the files on desktop to tidy other files but forgot to put them back on before I reinstalled OS
[15:59] <barath> I know their where on the desktop but don't wanna recover 1Tb of data to find them
[15:59] <Fraym> barath: You can try disk recovery utilities, but I have no experience with them
[15:59] <Kissmass> ok, one more question what was the off toic ubuntu channel again?
[15:59] <T4b> barath: Your description is a little vague, but I don't have the impression it's like you can recover them at all
[16:00] <Minotaur> Fraym: perheps it's the speech -d
[16:00] <T4b> *likely
[16:01] <bazhang> !ot | Kissmass
[16:02] <Minotaur> Fraym: after I ran sudo gpasswd -a  $USER audio, I can see "real output" in sound panel
[16:02] <Kissmass> ubottu: thanks
[16:02] <barath> basically I put files on desktop and forgot to put them back on portable drive I've since install reinstalled OS I can recover the full drive but will have to look through everything to find the items I was wondering is their is a quick way of search just the desktop and not the whole drive
[16:02] <Fraym> Minotaur: That is good?
[16:03] <Fraym> barath: When it comes to data recovery, I'm pretty sure there is no "fast" way
[16:04] <Minotaur> Fraym: I 'll try:)
[16:04] <Minotaur> see you Fraym
[16:04] <Fraym> Minotaur: See you :)
[16:05] <barath> ok thank you
[16:09] <qinglan> 的
[16:09] <Fraym> qinglan: ?
[16:10] <qinglan> 有谁懂中文？
[16:10] <Blue_Knight> !jp
[16:10] <bazhang> !cn | qinglan
[16:10] <Fraym> ubottu: Thanks
[16:11] <qinglan> 额，好吧
[16:12] <ndy> chanserv
[16:13] <ndy> nikunj help karna dost :D
[16:13] <Blue_Knight> !sa
[16:15] <ndy> ubuntu is unable to detect soundcard
[16:16] <Fraym> ndy: In the settings menu?
[16:17] <minotaur> Fraym: It works!!!
[16:17] <Fraym> minotaur: Great news!
[16:17] <minotaur> Fraym: thanks so much:)
[16:18] <Fraym> minotaur: Anytime
[16:18] <qstrahl> http://i.imgur.com/82B9e0g.png < I uninstalled Xchat-gnome a while ago. What's with this stuff in the upper right? (New to Ubuntu)
[16:19] <Fraym> qstrahl: Actually, I'm having the same issue with notifications not going away...
[16:19] <Fraym> qstrahl: xchat as well
[16:19] <OerHeks> qstrahl, that are indicators in the applet, uninstall those manually
[16:20] <qstrahl> OerHeks, What's the package?
[16:20] <OerHeks> qstrahl, not sure, look for xchat in synaptic and find the indicator, 'indicator' should be part of the name
[16:21] <qstrahl> Okay, let's see what I can't pull up...
[16:21] <Fraym> OerHeks: Thanks, found it
[16:21] <OerHeks> qstrahl, logout & login again and it should be gone
[16:22] <qstrahl> OerHeks, http://i.imgur.com/y7NOvm4.png
[16:22] <qstrahl> Ah okay I'll try that.
[16:24] <cubeiro> hello
[16:24] <Fraym> cubeiro: Hi
[16:25] <cubeiro> hi
[16:25] <Fraym> cubeiro: Do you need any help regarding Ubuntu?
[16:25] <cubeiro> what is the best alternative to ubuntu one ?
[16:25] <cubeiro> yes
[16:25] <cubeiro> i been lookin for a alternative for ubuntu one
[16:26] <cubeiro> yes thnks
[16:26] <Fraym> cubeiro: That can be partially subjective, but Dropbox seems like a fine alternative for me.
[16:26] <SchrodingersScat> cubeiro: owncloud is an option
[16:26] <OerHeks> cubeiro, tons of cloud storage options
[16:26] <cubeiro> dropbox is a quite cool, but only had a 2 gb of space
[16:26] <OerHeks> run your owncloud yes
[16:27] <Fraym> ^ It's not hard setting up your own NAS
[16:27] <cubeiro> tell me more about owncloud please
[16:27] <Fraym> cubeiro: And you won't regret it.
[16:27] <cubeiro> mane many thnks
[16:27] <SchrodingersScat> cubeiro: https://owncloud.org/
[16:27] <SchrodingersScat> !info owncloud | cubeiro
[16:27] <OerHeks> i would like an cloud storage with a write-only account.
[16:28] <cubeiro> ok, is a paid system ?
[16:28] <cubeiro> beacause the better thing is for free
[16:29] <SchrodingersScat> cubeiro: not if you host your own. it's in your repos, you can install it on any ubuntu system easily
[16:29] <barath> Hi I have a PC with three HD one had ubuntu one has windows and the other is spare for data between the two it was working ok but I had to reinstall ubuntu and now they won't open from ubuntu but of from windows 7 please help
[16:30] <SchrodingersScat> cubeiro: the android app is paid/non-free, but desktop client is free and server is free.
[16:31] <cubeiro> yeah looks very cool
[16:32] <cubeiro> so is there a service at least 5gb for free ??
[16:33] <cubeiro> i had a lots of photos
[16:33] <jParkton> is there a kali linux channel?
[16:33] <trevor_> yes
[16:33] <ikonia> jParkton: what does it say on the kali-linux website
[16:33] <Fraym> jParkton: Consult Kali Linux...
[16:33] <SchrodingersScat> !kali | jParkton
[16:33] <OerHeks> cubeiro, google 20 gb, wuala 5 g and do some research yourself, as itis not an ubuntu support question
[16:33] <ikonia> jParkton: if you're unable to read the information on the website, you are not going to be able to use the distro
[16:33] <cubeiro> ok, im sorry, thank you very very much
[16:33] <jParkton> I appreciate all the assholes responses
[16:34] <jParkton> have a great day
[16:34] <KGM70> barath, does df -h show the drive
[16:34] <trevor_> ahaha
[16:34] <Fraym> wat
[16:34] <Fraym> What a great guy
[16:34] <barath> I am a complete novice not very good with terminal if you could help talk me through
[16:34] <SchrodingersScat> my answer had the answer, #kali-linux :P
[16:35] <Fraym> SchrodingersScat: :)
[16:35] <Fraym> Are the notifications part of unity? Or where can I find settings to tweak them?
[16:35] <barath> @KGM70 I've typed it into terminal but only get /dev/sdb1
[16:35] <_1_Jake> You there
[16:36] <qstrahl> I want to make Super+MouseWheelUp / Super+MouseWheelDown raise and lower windows; anyone know how to do that?
[16:36] <_1_Matt> yep
[16:36] <_1_Jake> :D
[16:36] <_1_Matt> :):):):):):):):):)
[16:36] <_1_Jake> ;)
[16:36] <_1_Jake> :'(
[16:36] <barath> however it does show on they do show on the bar on left of my screen
[16:36] <_1_Matt> :)
[16:36] <_1_Jake> Minecraft rocks
[16:36] <_1_Matt> ;)
[16:36] <DJones> _1_Jake: _1_Matt  Please be aware this is a support channel, rather than a general chat channel
[16:37] <_1_Jake> oh
[16:37] <Fraym> _1_*: Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:37] <_1_Jake> sorry
[16:37] <_1_Matt> what does that mean
[16:37] <DJones> !ot | _1_Jake _1_Matt
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> _1_Jake  and _1_Matt have exactly the saùme ip addresses
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> same*
[16:38] <Fraym> MonkeyDust: Haha, smart observation :)
[16:40] <barath>  Hi my PC has three HD one with 1Tb Ubuntu one has 250Gb windows and the other is 200Gb spare for data between the other two it was working OK but I had to reinstall Ubuntu and now they won't open. Please help I think I need to mount them but a complete novice
[16:40] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, after doing a dist upgrade to 14 I get the unity launcher bar but the menu bar on the top is missing.
[16:41] <Pinkamena_D> opening terminal, I get the terminal menu options at the top of the terminal (like windows style)
[16:41] <Pinkamena_D> but this means I am missing click, network other taskbar items
[16:41] <Pinkamena_D> clock*
[16:41] <ken_> hello
[16:41] <whitebyte> Fraym, dere ?
[16:41] <Fraym> Pinkamena_D: Try running "unity" in the terminal
[16:41] <Fraym> whitebyte: Yep
[16:42] <leon> ?
[16:42] <whitebyte> I have installed xubuntu desktop
[16:42] <whitebyte> what now ?
[16:42] <Fraym> whitebyte: Whoa, you didn't have to go that far :)
[16:42] <Pinkamena_D> nope, this just makes unity restart
[16:42] <Fraym> whitebyte: Did you see the white circle in the login screen?
[16:43] <Fraym> Pinkamena_D: Try to go into settings, it might be one of the settings
[16:44] <barath>  Hi my PC has three HD one with 1Tb Ubuntu one has 250Gb windows and the other is 200Gb spare for data between the other two it was working OK but I had to reinstall Ubuntu and now they won't open. Please help I think I need to mount them but a complete novice
[16:45] <Fraym> barath: Do the drives show up in Nautilus
[16:45] <barath> I'm not sure how to use nautilus
[16:45] <barath> I tried using Disks but get error
[16:45] <Fraym> barath: Nautilus is the default file manager in Ubuntu, called "files".
[16:46] <barath> when I click on the drive in files it comes back with error
[16:46] <barath> Error mounting /dev/sdc2 at /media/barath/Spare: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sdc2" "/media/barath/Spare"' exited with non-zero exit status 21: fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[16:46] <bigred15> is it possible to change the default file manager in Ubuntu? i hate nautilus.
[16:46] <Pinkamena_D> in bahavior settings there is an option to display the menus in the menu bar or in the window, but neither seems to change the problem.
[16:46] <red45923> new ubuntu install, selected EN(US) for keyboard by mistake, how do i change it?
[16:47] <whitebyte> Fraym, yes xfc session and xfc desktop are added. I logged in using xfc desktop.
[16:47] <Fraym> red45923: In the top right there should be options are added?
[16:47] <Fraym> whitebyte: Does the problem still occur
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> bigred15  http://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/20-file-managers-for-ubuntu/
[16:47] <whitebyte> yes, its still the same
[16:47] <trevor_> yes
[16:48] <Fraym> whitebyte: Your best bet now is a reinstall... Because there are so many things causing it, including the kernel...
[16:48] <trevor_> you wont know untilll you try
[16:48] <Fraym> whitebyte: *That could cause it
[16:48] <bigred15> MonkeyDust: I use ranger, but how do I make it the default?
[16:49] <whitebyte> Fraym, Keeping two DE at the same time doesn't effect the system, right ?
[16:49] <austneal> Hello! I'm having sound issues with a new install :/
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> bigred15  in system settings: default applications
[16:51] <Fraym> whitebyte: How do you mean?
[16:51] <Fraym> I need to go now, BRB
[16:52] <trevor_>  
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> bigred15  forget what i said, file manager cannot be changed there
[16:53] <bigred15> MonkeyDust: Yeah, I can't even work out how to open system-settings anyway from openbox
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> bigred15  missed the openbox part
[16:54] <bigred15> i failed to mention it i think, haha
[16:55] <Austneal> I think Ubuntu is just broken... I cannot for the life of me figure out whats wrong with my audio
[16:56] <bigred15> MonkeyDust: i think the issue is going to be around the fact that ranger is ncurses based
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> Austneal  open a terminal and type     alsamixer     anything wrong there?
[16:56] <Austneal> nope
[16:57] <Austneal> I can see my audio devices as well
[16:57] <Austneal> Oh hold the phone... There's an "Auto-mute" option. When I toggle it, I hear my speakers pop
[16:58] <a_muva> anyone familiar with lightspark? I would like to know if someone had luck to play youtube videos with it.
[16:58] <xeonid>  "/ignore -channels #ubuntu  * JOINS PARTS QUITS
[16:59] <xangua> a_muva: you can use hmtl5 player for youtube
[16:59] <xeonid>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu  * JOINS PARTS QUITS
[16:59] <Austneal> eh, still no audio
[16:59] <Austneal> MonkeyDust: any other ideas?
[16:59] <a_muva> Austneal: try pavucontrol
[17:00] <Austneal> a_muva: you mean install it?
[17:00] <Austneal> because its not currently
[17:01] <a_muva> Austneal: yes if you do not installed already
[17:02] <SPeedYdr> hello all
[17:02] <a_muva> xangua: I think it will not work in firefox
[17:03] <xangua> a_muva: why not¿
[17:03] <Austneal> a_muva: ok, I have it installed
[17:03] <Austneal> a_muva: its not showing my audio device. Only my graphics card's audio
[17:04] <tiblock> Hi. I have ubuntu 14.04 x64 server, and i need install "ia32-libs". But in 14 it have other name. What of this names is correct "lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0"? What of them is "ia32-libs"?
[17:04] <Austneal> a_muva: Oh wait, I just had to scroll down xD
[17:04] <a_muva> Austneal: see if nothing is muted
[17:04] <data> Hi. I am trying to compile my kernel as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel . But in the step of "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic
[17:04] <data> " I only get the error cp: cannot stat 'scripts': No such file or directory
[17:05] <Austneal> a_muva: Nothing is muted
[17:05] <Austneal> a_muva: "Lock channels" and "Set as fallback" are selected though
[17:05] <bigred15> tiblock: what is the app that you're trying to install?
[17:06] <tiblock> bigred15, i want to launch SA:MP game server. It known problem in ubuntu 12 when you need "ia32-libs"
[17:06] <LucasReis> hey guys
[17:06] <bigred15> tiblock: yeah i had to use ia32-libs to get an app to work, so I just added the old repositories
[17:06] <bigred15> but im not sure that's really a good idea :\
[17:07] <tiblock> bigred15, uhm, okay. I will try
[17:07] <a_muva> xangua: Firefox does not support the h.264 codec
[17:07] <bigred15> tiblock: you can, but just dont blame me if it breaks something haha
[17:07] <tiblock> bigred15, one guy ask me help, so if i fail i will tell him install 12
[17:08] <tiblock> bigred15, *ubuntu 12
[17:08] <bigred15> cool.
[17:08] <bigred15> good luck,.
[17:08] <Austneal> a_muva: I can see the little bar move when sound is supposed to be playing, but no sound is actually playing
[17:08] <nho> Hi.
[17:08] <nho> I need help.
[17:08] <LucasReis> What is your question?
[17:08] <nho> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201309-14166/ I got myself nice little Lenovo ThinkPad e540
[17:09] <data> Hi. I am trying to compile my kernel as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel . But in the step of "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic " I only get the error "cp: cannot stat 'scripts': No such file or directory"
[17:09] <nho> And Wifi does not work
[17:09] <Austneal> a_muva: Got sound through my headphones! But not through the speakers
 lol
[17:10] <nho> Well, it does not work on 14.04 because it got 3.13 kernel and drivers are only in 3.15, do I got 3.15-rc5 from kernel-ppa.
[17:10] <alfried> kshrc|Thrill has Left #ubuntu ()
[17:10] <nho> Nope!
[17:10] <nho> 04:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
 go to configuration and see if you have Analog Stereo Duplex selected
[17:11] <nho> lspci could see the thing and lsmod shows me that driver is loaded, but not iw, nor ifconfig, and of course not network-manager shows the device.
[17:11] <nho> What to do to hammmer it into compliance and where to complain?
[17:12] <nho> And there was that answer in askubuntu about driver on github. Should I try to build and install it and look what happens or what?
[17:12] <Austneal> a_muva: Got everything working... thanks I think :P
 glad to hear that.
[17:17] <nho_> Sorry, did I miss something?
[17:17] <nho_> Connection problems
[17:18] <aleks_> hi
[17:23] <NHO> Anyone?
[17:23] <NHO> Any ideas?
[17:23] <froax> hi !
[17:23] <NHO> Installing module from github was of no help.
[17:23] <NHO> This time.
[17:24] <NHO> As in not even wants to be probed in
[17:24] <lblume> In GNOME 3.10/Trusty, when deleting files, they're moved to the <mountpoint>/.Trash directory, but they do not appear in the Trash, and have to be deleted manually. It's might be because the underlying FS is zfs. Would there be a workaround for that?
[17:24] <NHO> Doing little reboot.
[17:24] <KGM70> NHO, sudo dhclient wlan0
[17:26] <Bonn_> Hi all, I'm having difficulty with a system that was upgraded, and now refuses to boot. First there was a cups problem stopping the machine booting,bit now the machine hangs at "Starting SystemD login management service"
[17:26] <Zeusking19> OK, Do you have more details?
[17:27] <Zeusking19> Or is that all you know at the moment?
[17:27] <Bonn_> I tried setting the boot to nomodeset, but this has had no effect
[17:27] <Bonn_> Zeusking, that is all I have
[17:27] <Zeusking19> OK, hold on
[17:28] <ubuntu-studio> Hi there. Does anyone know or even has experience if it's possible to install Cinnamon-Desktop on ubuntustudio?
[17:28] <Zeusking19> when you boot without nomodeset, at what point does the boot stop?
[17:29] <Bonn_> SystemD starring
[17:29] <Bonn_> Err, starting
[17:29] <ikonia> ubuntu doesn't use systemd yet
[17:29] <Zeusking19> ubuntu-studio, cinnamon should be in the software centre
[17:30] <Bonn_> Ikonia,  I can only tell you what I see
[17:31] <ubuntu-studio> Thanks Zeusking. So it is fully compatible I suppose...
[17:31] <Zeusking19> If it is not, you can do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable, do an update then do apt-get install cinnamon
[17:31] <Bonn_> Oz out possible to change the boot pagans such that upstart is used?
[17:31] <Beldar> cinnamon is not in the 14.04 repos
[17:31] <Zeusking19> In that case, use the ppa I said above
[17:33] <Zeusking19> Ok now, ubuntu-studio?
[17:34] <Bonn_> Can anyone give me any ideas, our has ubuntu screwed my system so hard I have to install from scratch?
[17:35] <ubuntu-studio> ok thank you very much Zeusking19 and Beldar. I compared Linux Mint 16 Cinnamon, Linux Mint 16 xfce and ubuntustudio 14 xfce on playing and working with HD-Videos. ubuntustudio only needs half the cpu-amount on openshot and kdenlive.
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-studio  yes, ubuntu-studio is multimedia dedicated
[17:36] <OerHeks> Bonn_, hard to say if you don't know about systemD, how it got there, as it is not a standard ubuntu install
[17:36] <Bonn_> It was an upgrade, the machine has been running ubuntu fiber for the last four years
[17:37] <Bonn_> Fine, not divert, dirty phone is my only net connection atm
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Bonn_: what is ubuntu fiber?
[17:38] <Bonn_> F2f uvk off
[17:39] <ubuntu-studio> I'm so lucky with my AMD Athlon X2 3200 again :-)  WinXP wasn't able to play my HD-videos without stumble
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-studio: i had a X2 5200 with Nvidia 6150LE and it was fine :-)
[17:40] <bigred15> ubuntu-studio: I've got an i5 and had playback issues under win7, works no issue under linux.
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-studio: then it went bang and i bought a Tronsmart S802. Kicks raw ass
[17:40] <bigred15> not sure if cpu related or not, but eh, works epically under linux so im stoked.
[17:41] <ubuntu-studio> cool. I'll say goodbye to Windows now.
[17:41] <amadeus> Hi, i need to enlarge a NTFS partition from ubuntu. the problem is, that the disk has bad sectors. any idea how to use --bad-sectors parameter in gparted?
[17:41] <KGM70> ubuntu-studio, update to W7 :)
[17:41] <pleasehelppme> Hey guys! Thanks for the help earlier :)
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> amadeus: do you have windows installed?
[17:42] <loa> amadeus, i think you need to buy new hdd, and don't mess with that.
[17:42] <loa> rememper that your time costs money too.
[17:42] <ubuntu-studio> It works also on Linux Mint. But it shows me 160% CPU for openshot
[17:42] <loa> remeber *
[17:42] <amadeus> ActionParsnip: yes, and they are on the partition i want to resize
[17:42] <ubuntu-studio> no more Win, KGM78
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> amadeus: resize NTFS in Windows. It's more likely to succeed resizeing Microsoft's filesystem with a Microsoft tool
[17:43] <SpacemanPete> Hi y'all
[17:43] <Fraym> SpacemanPete: Hi
[17:43] <amadeus> loa: i wish i could, but i cant affor new disk right now. anyway im not concerned about data loss in this case
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> amadeus: +1 to loa's suggestion. Bad sectors mean a dying drive. Backup data and replace
[17:44] <pleasehelppme> I'm trying to get Ubuntu on a VM now (Using VMware Workstation) and I'm encountering 'ubuntu login: [24.546551] sda1: WRITE SAMEfailed. Manually zeroing.
[17:44] <pleasehelppme> What does that mean?
[17:44] <ubuntu-studio> how is it possible that a process can use more than 100% cpu?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-studio: dual core
[17:44] <pleasehelppme> I got it straight off ubuntu.com, but no
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-studio: with 2 cores you can see 200% cpu
[17:45] <Saur0> hi all is there are more upto date version of this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot
[17:45] <amadeus> ActionParsnip: i couldnt resize it under windows, probably because its a system partition, so i thought i might do it from ubuntu. seems im a bit screwed here. i wanted to avoid reinstalling the OSes
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: then how did you know it didnt get damaged in transmission? The place you get the file from is completely irrelevant
[17:45] <ubuntu-studio> ok, but ubuntustudio shows 80% for the process while both cpu's show about 95% each.
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> amadeus: windows vista and later can resize any NTFS filesystem, even the system one
[17:47] <amadeus> ActionParsnip: then i wonder why it does not present an option to do so. its greyed. normaly i would agree, that the drive is dying, but its like this for about 2 years now as a system drive and no problems
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: you could get the file from the dodgeyest warez site you can find but if the file's MD5 sum matches the official sum then it is fine
[17:47] <SpacemanPete> Might anyone have advice on helping me with a dual boot setup? I've done a few of these before but I've got a tricky setup with my new lenovo laptop. The onboard ssd has like 9 partitions on it. curious if others may have had success cleaning up a setup like this for a more optimal setup
[17:48] <ubuntu-studio> ActionParsnip, I'm a bit confused. Why is openshot-Process 80% cpu while both cpu's show 95%.
[17:48] <amadeus> ActionParsnip: thank you for the info anyway
[17:49] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip But what would cause trouble in transmission...?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> amadeus: if you boot to liveCD does it help. Probably not allowing it because of the bad sectors.
[17:49] <pleasehelppme> It seems the MD5 is actually not correct though...
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: then thats why
[17:49] <pleasehelppme> What did I do wrong?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: and is why I ask if md5 has been checked. If your data is mangled it wont work
[17:50] <KGM70> SpacemanPete, 6 partitions belong to windows 8 i bet
[17:50] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: and why is it so fragile?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: the internet is the most unreliable network around, tcp does a good job of checking data but it is not perfect
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: its not fragile. You just got some bad packets. It can happen with any data
[17:51] <SpacemanPete> KGM70: yeah theres like three or four recovery partitions, on efi partition
[17:51] <SpacemanPete> KGM70: it's just a mess
[17:51] <pleasehelppme> It's weird though... This has never happened to me before o.O
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: if you use torrents then there is extra error checking
[17:51] <pleasehelppme> Oh
[17:51] <amadeus> ActionParsnip: i didnt tested liveCD, i might give it a shot\
[17:51] <Beldar> !uefi | SpacemanPete
[17:51] <pleasehelppme> Is the error checking done on my side?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: it can and does, why do you think the hashes are available and why I ask it...
[17:51] <KGM70> SpacemanPete, do yo intend to keep windows?
[17:52] <SpacemanPete> KGM70: so i got a larger ssd to setup dualboot, but I'm having trouble cloning the disk
[17:52] <KGM70> SpacemanPete, using to dd?
[17:52] <SpacemanPete> KGM70: unfortuately I do need to keep windows for some work-related software, hence dual boot
[17:52] <KGM70> err using dd
[17:52] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, The windows image/cloner or clonezilla should work fine.
[17:52] <pleasehelppme> Is the error checking done in torrent clients / chrome (Aka, the client-side downloader) or by the one serving the file?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: its why i ask and why the hashes are online to test the ISO. Please in future test your ISOs before using them :-)
[17:53] <SpacemanPete> Beldar: Clonezilla (which i've used successfully before) keeps throwing an error that the target disk is too small, when it's twice the size of the source
[17:53] <kdz> client side
[17:53] <pleasehelppme> And is that why a bad node in a P2P network can't easily infect others by substituting in files?
[17:53] <pleasehelppme> Will do :)
[17:53] <KGM70> !uefi | SpacemanPete
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: torrents check as a chunk is done, then the whole thing is checked
[17:54] <xenolyse> Hello fellows. I got one major problem. I got an issue with my multi-monitor setup where some applications refuse to launch on my primary monitor, and instead launch on my leftmost. I've made an Ask Ubuntu post with all the details. http://askubuntu.com/questions/463529/applications-launch-on-leftmost-monitor-in-multi-monitor-setup
[17:54] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, is the target disc empty no partitions and has a got table?
[17:54] <SpacemanPete> thanks ubottu, i've read through that documentation, will utilize it once i get to that step
[17:54] <Beldar> GPT* SpacemanPete
[17:54] <xenolyse> I've been stuck with this problem for months now and I just can't solve it on my own
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> xenolyse: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[17:54] <asad2005> I have problem with evolution not displaying messages only displays retriving message" id ". ubuntu 14.04, may be related to recent updates
[17:55] <xenolyse> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> xenolyse: are you using unity?
[17:55] <SpacemanPete> Baldar: strangely enough the windows disk manager can see the new drive (it's in an mSATA in a usb enclosure) but when I'm running Ubuntu off USB i can't get gparted of fdisk -l to even see the drive...
[17:56] <xenolyse> ActionParsnip: yes and now. Right now I'm using Gnome 3.10 but the problem is the same when i run Unity
[17:56] <KGM70> SpacemanPete, does df -h show it?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> xenolyse: unity is a shell for gnome. When you use unity you are using gnome too
[17:57] <Saur0> hi i'm having trouble configureing thunderbird to work with my server
[17:57] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: How do I avoid damage to the data?
[17:57] <Saur0> i've tested dovecote via command line and everything looks good
[17:57] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, Is ubuntu installed at all?
[17:58] <xenolyse> ActionParsnip: I've done several fresh installs of Ubuntu and I even tried Fedora 20, but the same result.
[17:58] <SpacemanPete> KGM70: i did not try 'df -h', i will do that shortly
[17:58] <pakair> Saur0, you need incoming, outgoing server, user and pass
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> xenolyse: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9921/dual-monitor-applications-opening-on-wrong-monitor
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: make sure your backups are up to date
[17:58] <Saur0> i was following this -->
[17:58] <Saur0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot
[17:58] <xenolyse> ActionParsnip: Yes, I did try the place windows in Compiz but that doesn't work as well
[17:58] <Saur0> but I think its out of date
[17:59] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: I mean when downloading a file, how do I make sure there's no damage done
[17:59] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: Because I keep getting different MD5s when downloading Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:59] <bekks> Saur0: Why do you think that?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: you can use torrents otherwise you cant, juat redownload the file and retest
[17:59] <Saur0> do I still add thunderbird bit to dovecote.conf?
[17:59] <SpacemanPete> Beldar: nothing's installed on the new drive yet, first need to make sure it's formatted properly then either need to close the original ssd to the new one, or (hopefully) choose a few partitions to clone over and fix the windows MBR, then install Ubuntu alongside.
[17:59] <SpacemanPete> sound like a plan?
[17:59] <pakair> Saur0, I'd start thunderbird and configure it myself
[18:00] <Disturbo__> xenolyse: Have you tried just swapping the cables from the graphics card and then changing the orientation of the monitors to the way you want it?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[18:00] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, This issue is a windows one the SSD move ask in ##windows, come back for the install.
[18:00] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: Why doesn't Chrome / FF error check as hard as torrents do?
[18:00] <Saur0> i've tried that it doesn't connect
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: because you are downloading via http so it is doing the standard tcp testing. Http doesnt have so much testing
[18:01] <pakair> Saur0, can you ping the incoming/outgoing servers?
[18:01] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, You have a uefi you are not using the mbr, you have some research to do honestly on that set up.
[18:01] <Saur0> weird it just worked :)
[18:01] <SpacemanPete> Thanks Beldar, until now i've always had better luck setting up new drives in linux which is why i came here first
[18:01] <Beldar> err gpt with a uefi
[18:01] <xenolyse> ActionParsnip: I run a 670 with VGA to my leftmost monitor, Displayport to my primary and a HDMI for my rightmost monitor. The problem is that I can't really swap around the cables on the card as there are no other to use instead.
[18:01] <pakair> Saur0, good!
[18:02] <Saur0> thanks anyway :D
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> xenolyse: or you can use devilspie to make applications always open in a certain manner
[18:02] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: What protocol does P2P use?
[18:02] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, I understand, the new windows uefi setup with a gpt partitioning set up is a bit different is all
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: depends on the client
[18:02] <xenolyse> ActionParsnip: Devilspie don't launch for me on Ubuntu 14.04. The process just shuts down.
[18:02] <pleasehelppme> Oh, so if I'm using BitTorrent, is 'BitTorrent' the protocol? Or do they each develop their own protocol?
[18:03] <SpacemanPete> thanks for the help KGM70 and Beldar. i'll do some omore research andf pop back in later with status update/questions if need be. much obliged. have a great [morn||afternoon||evening]
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: yes it will use the torrent protocol. I can send you a file using IRC and that is 'p2p' as well. P2p doesnt just mean torrents you know
[18:04] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: Haha, gotcha! That seems like a lot of work, every torrent network creating it's own protocol... And how do those protocols interact with TCP?
[18:04] <Saur0> strange i'm getting relay access denied
[18:04] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, You to, it is not that hard, the key I think is having the windows imaged/cloned which you instend to do to use the new ssd , save that iamge.
[18:04] <Saur0> I didn't get that in command line
[18:04] <Saur0> when sending
[18:04] <asad2005> Can anyone please help me in evolution email not displaying messages
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: other clients which can manage torrents will use the agreed torrent client, just like web browsers use an agreed http standard. Its what makes the web work as everyone is obeying the standards
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: torrents are torrwnts and is why someone using transmission can seed to someone using deluge ot utorrent
[18:06] <SpacemanPete> Beldar: Clonezilla already successfully cloned my current drive to a spare mechanical HDD i had lying around using device-image, but kept getting an error cloning device-device to the new mSATA
[18:07] <pakair> asad2005, what's the issue with evolution?
[18:07] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, Put the new HD in the computer not a usb to load the image.
[18:07] <Gar> Hello all. Please be so kind and let me know your "best" note taking software for ubuntu. I have been using Zim, but getting some crashed now and then. Any alternative you would recommend?
[18:08] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, You have the full image on an external right?
[18:08] <Beldar> usin clonezilla?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Gar: vi or gedit
[18:08] <SpacemanPete> Beldar: hmmm, all the documentation i;ve found recommended cloning the current drive to the new drive in an enclosure before swapping the drive in the laptop
[18:09] <Fraym> Gar: Vim or nano
[18:09] <Fraym> Gar: Both work fine when I need them
[18:10] <_ramok> is there an easy way to upgrade curl on ubuntu 12.04 lts to a newer version? like 7.3x ?
[18:10] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, There a several imaging scenarios, clonezilla saves it all in data format, come cloners just make an exact copy that is the same.
[18:10] <asad2005> pakair: I have problem with evolution not displaying messages only displays retriving message" id ". ubuntu 14.04, may be related to recent updates
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Gar: springseed
[18:11] <pakair> _ramok, delete curl and reinstall. it will pick up the most recent from the repo
[18:11] <asad2005> pakair: I noticed this today only yesterday it was working ok
[18:11] <pakair> asad2005, that could be
[18:11] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, I use both clonezilla and the windows imager onto a 2 terrabyte external. When I want either reload I boot a clonezilla cd or a windows recovery disc to reload what I want to the internal HD.
[18:11] <meccooll> I have two monitors, how can i make them separate screens/display DISPLAY :0.0 and :0.1. Right now it's one bit display and i can drag windows from one to another DISPLAY:0
[18:11] <SpacemanPete> Baldar: gotcha. i'll try to do some research on prepping the new drive for use in a UEFI windows 8.1 setup. hopefully i'll find sth i missed earlier. will report back. thanks again
[18:11] <asad2005> pakair: Should i migrate to thunderbird?
[18:12] <Deihmos> i just installed ubuntu on uefi
[18:12] <pakair> asad2005, I like tbird but you have options
[18:12] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, NO problem, a gpt partition table is needed at the least.
[18:12] <Deihmos> did not have any issues. no need to disable secure boot or anything unlike mint
[18:12] <asad2005> pakair: Is this because of lack of support to evolution on ubuntu
[18:12] <Gar> Thanks ActionParsnip and Fraym. I was lookinf into something more "visual" and with a tree-like structure. Springseed looks interesting. RedNotebook was also on my list...
[18:12] <asad2005> pakair: What options?
[18:12] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: Is this the right MD5?
[18:12] <pleasehelppme> 8AEBB31274A13EA080AB4A9D685850F8
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Gar: im a terminal guy. What can i say
[18:12] <Zeusking19> Back.
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | pleasehelppme
[18:13] <pakair> asad2005, Idk ... you have options in the sense that you can use tbird, evo, or other mail clients.
[18:13] <Gar> ActionParsnip: I see :) no prob
[18:13] <Deihmos> not digging thunderbird at all
[18:14] <_ramok> pakair: the most recent for ubuntu 12.04 is 7.22
[18:14] <asad2005> pakair: Are there other clients that are ranked higher than theses in linux?
[18:14] <SpacemanPete> Beldar: yup, when i tried to run clonezilla earlier I saw it created a gpt table at the start of the process, but then came the errors. essentially it was trying to clone the partition table from sda to sdc, and then the errors came back one after another that "could not find /dev/sdc1, /dev/sdc2, /dev/sdc3, etc..."
[18:14] <_ramok> i need a newer build
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: you dont have to use thunderbird
[18:15] <pakair> _ramok, yes, just installed curl 7.22
[18:15] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: :/ I checked the version I downloaded on Ubuntu.com and off utorrent and both of them don't appear on that list (and they're both the same)
[18:16] <_ramok> pakair: i don't need 7.22 i need a hihger version like 7.3x
[18:16] <_ramok> on ubuntu 12.04
[18:16] <Deihmos> not digging evolution either. sticking with the web
[18:16] <pakair> _ramok, grab the .deb file and install it manually
[18:17] <OerHeks> _ramok, upgrade to 14.04 lts, it provides 7.35
[18:17] <OerHeks> !info curl
[18:17] <pakair> asad2005, I just googled 'ubuntu email clients'
[18:18] <_ramok> OerHeks: 14.04 is not really supported on Xen based vms
[18:18] <Beldar> SpacemanPete, If you have the whole original HD saved with clonezilla on an external, if you replaced that HD with the new one, booted the clonezilla cd and went to load the image, the new HD would be sda
[18:18] <_ramok> it crashed after upgrade because of some parition definition
[18:19] <letstrythis> !eol
[18:19] <letstrythis> esus ty
[18:19] <dnalor> my ubuntu server installation on raid 1 (sda/sdb) won't boot unless i unplug all my other drives (sdc,sdd,sde,sdf,sdg). any advice ?
[18:21] <SpacemanPete> Baldar: haha sounds like a great idea.
[18:21] <SpacemanPete> Beldar: much simpler than suffering through error troubleshooting
[18:22] <SpacemanPete> Beldar: ok signing off now, i'll check in later. thanks again
[18:23] <pleasehelppme> My md5 hash of Ubuntu that I downloaded off utorrent and off ubuntu.com are both inconsistent with what's on the ubuntu page. What can I do?
[18:23] <asad2005> pakair: Thanks
[18:24] <pleasehelppme> The md5 is 8AEBB31274A13EA080AB4A9D685850F8 by the way
[18:24] <bekks> pleasehelppme: Download the iso from the official website.
[18:24] <pleasehelppme> I did :/
[18:24] <zykotick9> bekks: ubuntu.com isn't official?
[18:24] <pleasehelppme> Unless Ubuntu.com is not the official?
[18:25] <bekks> pleasehelppme: zykotick9: I didnt say he did download it from unofficial sources. He asked what he can do in his situation.
[18:25] <pleasehelppme> Oh I see
[18:25] <meccooll> pleasehelppme, redownload don't use that file
[18:27] <excelsiora> what's the reputation of wubi nowadays?
[18:27] <ikonia> dead
[18:27] <ikonia> sucks
[18:27] <Fraym> excelsiora: Bad, not supported
[18:27] <pleasehelppme> Wait, when we're talking about the .iso, I just want to be clear, we're talking about the zipped file?
[18:28] <ikonia> what zipped file ?
[18:28] <bekks> pleasehelppme: Which zipped file?
[18:28] <step21> Hey, anybody know how to get gnome-keyring/seahorse to work with ssh keys? They can be imported, but then don't show up under ssh keys but only directly after importing under user keys. when adding them manually with ssh-add, everything works
[18:28] <pleasehelppme> Oh, I guess it's not really zipped, my default icon for .iso is just Winzip never mind
[18:28] <KGM70> wubi never was a usable alernative, it was just a poor facsimile
[18:28] <Decus_> Hello, somebody knows hot to solve this issue, please? http://askubuntu.com/questions/463899/high-pitched-sound-by-hdmi-on-kubuntu-14-04 I'm really tired, a lot of days looking to solve that :'(
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> excelsiora: it hasnt been developed for two years now.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: ignore the icon your OS gives you.
[18:30] <pleasehelppme> ActionParsnip: But I can unzip it... Is that normal?
[18:30] <M0DCM-Dave> Hey Blue_Knight
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: yes just because your archive manager can read it doesnt mean you do....
[18:31] <Blue_Knight> M0DCM-Dave: Hi!
[18:31] <M0DCM-Dave> Just thought I'd let you know my Surround Headphone issue is sorted
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> pleasehelppme: have you tried the ISO in Virtualbox to test?
[18:31] <ljetibo> Hello! What are the files that look like this, is: results.txt and results.txt~? What do the ~ files "do"?
[18:32] <Blue_Knight> VirtualBox won't load an iso if it has an extension other than .iso. Is that right?
[18:32] <pleasehelppme> Nope, I don't think so. I'm using VMware and it doesn't allow anything but .iso
[18:32] <OerHeks> "~" = /home/$USER/
[18:33] <tkeith> Is there a way to stop all services except networking and SSH so I can migrate an entire server using rsync?
[18:33] <M0DCM-Dave> Blue_Knight I realised what TJ- was talking about last night, so installed PulseAudio volume control and got my headphones working in 5.1!!
[18:33] <Decus_> Hello, somebody knows hot to solve this issue, please? http://askubuntu.com/questions/463899/high-pitched-sound-by-hdmi-on-kubuntu-14-04 I'm really tired, a lot of days looking to solve that :'(
[18:33] <M0DCM-Dave> So it's thanks to this channel, and TJ-
[18:34] <excelsiora> I have a guy who installed wubi for dualboot and there's something wrong with his flash-screen.
[18:34] <KGM70> excelsiora, wubi isn't dual boot
[18:35] <ljetibo> OerHeks: mind devulgind some more info thank that? (they're located at ~/Desktop, but that's not exactly what's bothering me, why are they created in the first place, why when I open a file in a programing language and save it do I get 2 files: file.extension and file.extension~)
[18:35] <Beldar> excelsiora, What release is this?
[18:35] <excelsiora> He's getting some sort of boot message
[18:35] <ljetibo> divulging*
[18:35] <excelsiora> he can boot back into windows fine
[18:36] <excelsiora> but linux he just gets a command console
[18:36] <Beldar> excelsiora, Even when wubi was supported there was like one person doing it, I am not joking here. ;)
[18:36] <KGM70> !wubi | excelsiora
[18:37] <OerHeks> ljetibo, looks like that second file is an work-backup every X minutes ?
[18:38] <pleasehelppme> I just downloaded 14.04 for like the 5th time getting the same md5, but it still doesn't match with the one on ubuntu.com
[18:38] <ljetibo> OerHeks: that would make sense if I didn't actively close them from withing the program. My issue being that when I push it to github I push those files too (basically duplicates) everytime xD
L locks the screen and <Super>M searches for music... how can I disable these?
[18:47] <Arankott> hi
[18:47] <Fraym> Arankott: Hi
[18:47] <OerHeks> qstrahl, search in your keyboard-menu
[18:47] <stork91> I feel like 14.04 was a major step backwards for Ubuntu, and after using it since its release cannot in good conscious recommend it to anyone at its present state.
[18:47] <qstrahl> OerHeks, It isn't displayed there
[18:48] <Arankott> how can I clear unwanted files?
[18:48] <pakair> Arankott, there is a janitor app
[18:48] <stork91> Considering it is an LTS, my previous statement is even more shocking to me.
[18:49] <Arankott> Pakair could I see some terminal commands?
[18:49] <OerHeks> qstrahl, sure they are, super L lock is in 'system'
[18:50] <qstrahl> OerHeks, What about Super M?
[18:50] <stork91> At present, I cannot review software in the software center. There is a bug since 13.10 that has not been resolved concerning it.
[18:50] <psbrandt> I'm trying to set up an apt-cacher VM. I want to actually cache on my host machine, so I'm using a shared folder (vboxfs), but I'm having an issue when I get a cache miss.
[18:50] <pakair> Arankott, in my system there is a /usr/sbin/computer-janitor
[18:50] <OerHeks> qstrahl, maybe custom ?
[18:50] <qstrahl> OerHeks, Also it claims <Ctrl><Alt>L is lock for me, not <Super>L
[18:50] <qstrahl> OerHeks, Nope, no customs
[18:50] <Arankott> pakair , thanks let me checkout
[18:51] <psbrandt> I'm getting this error: Unable to create libcurl socket. I'm running apt-cacher as the same user:group that owns the shared.
[18:51] <psbrandt> Anyone have any ideas?
[18:52] <psbrandt> This is the only thing I can find online about it, but I've checked and my permissions seem correct: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611526
[18:52] <pakair> Arankott, locate janitor | grep bin
[18:53] <zykotick9> psbrandt: fyi, apt-cacher can only be used for one distro & release at a time, apt-cacher-ng supports many at once... just sayin'
[18:54] <nnyk_> Hi, I'm having some trouble getting pm-suspend to work on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. If I suspend, it appears to have worked but when I wake the system, it reboots (system: Sony Vaio VPCEB1E0E)
[18:54] <zykotick9> nnyk_: did you select to encrypt home directory?
[18:54] <psbrandt> Thanks zykotick9, but I'll only be needing this for one distro and release. Any ideas on the permissions problem?
[18:55] <zykotick9> psbrandt: sorry, no ideas re the permission stuff - best of luck.
[18:55] <nnyk_> zykotick9: No, i did not
[18:55] <zykotick9> nnyk_: ok, just checkin'
[18:56] <nnyk_> zykotick9: Any ideas?
[18:56] <zykotick9> nnyk_: nope sorry, best of luck though
[18:57] <nnyk_> Thanks :)
[19:01] <pleasehelppme> Sigh
[19:01] <cristianounix> @gac
[19:01] <pleasehelppme> Could someone send me their iso for 14.04?
[19:01] <cristianounix> sorry
[19:01] <ikonia> pleasehelppme: people are not going to send 800mb files across IRC
[19:01] <ikonia> pleasehelppme: just download it from a trusted source
[19:01] <bazhang> !torrents | pleasehelppme
[19:01] <zykotick9> pleasehelppme: are you sure your checking the right MD5 for the version you are downloading?
[19:01] <pleasehelppme> Okay let me try again...
[19:02] <pleasehelppme> Well I tried already from utorrent and ubuntu, I keep getting the same md5, but not the right md5
[19:02] <zykotick9> are you sure the "right md5" is infact for the version you are downloading?
[19:03] <bazhang> !hashes | pleasehelppme
[19:03] <zykotick9> pleasehelppme: if you used a torrent, that "should" eliminate download errors
[19:03] <pleasehelppme> I just ctrl+f my md5 on that page. Here is the md5 I keep getting: 8AEBB31274A13EA080AB4A9D685850F8
[19:04] <zykotick9> pleasehelppme: an md5 without the exact ISO name isn't very helpful...
[19:04] <pleasehelppme> Oh
[19:04] <pleasehelppme> .Okay let me try again
[19:04] <Baako_> hi i want to change a file permission to 666 how do i do it?
[19:04] <zingbats> Baako_: chmod 0666 file
[19:04] <Gerowen> Baako: chmod 666 file
[19:05] <zingbats> Snap
[19:05] <Gerowen> :P
[19:05] <Baako_> thanks
[19:05] <zingbats> I am trying to automount a partition. The trouble is, whenever I use sudo mount, or put it in /etc/fstab it mounts as root, which means gnome needs root to dismount it. How can I mount is as the logged in user, as the GUI seems to be able to do
[19:07] <zykotick9> zingbats: is this a FAT/NTFS partition?
[19:07] <zingbats> zykotick9: ext4 mdadm RAID array
[19:08] <zykotick9> zingbats: ummm, sorry i've never played with mdadm RAID stuff... so i have nothin'.  good luck.
[19:08] <zingbats> zykotick9: The problem isnt the format, the issue is being able to mount something without being root. The GUI is able to do it somehow.
[19:10] <zykotick9> zingbats: the GUI uses FUSE (filesystem in User Space), using fstab you might try adding the option user or users (i believe one won't allow unmounting, while the other does)
[19:11] <trinode_> so if one of the firmwares for intel wireless was removed because it was buggy, and now my bluetooth (built into the wireless) is skipping like hell, but if I download a newer kernel + newer firmware it's perfect, is it possible to get it included?
[19:11] <trinode_> (iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode was removed from linux-firmware)
[19:12] <trinode_> -7 breaks my bluetooth
[19:12] <trinode_> -9 works great
[19:12] <trinode_> (but requires kernel 13.14
[19:12] <trinode_> would there be any harm including it in linux-firmware?
[19:16] <rawrmonster> Hmm i don't quite know what to make of this. I am trying to switch an older laptop to ubuntu from windows but some of the keys on the keyboard do not work on linux for some reason. I tried to boot in to windows and use the key, and it works perfectly just not on ubuntu. It is a US english keyboard any ideas?
[19:17] <pakair> rawrmonster, are you talking about F keys and other special keys win uses?
[19:17] <rawrmonster> pakair: no i am talking about the "a" key
[19:18] <rawrmonster> every other key works perfectly on linux but the a key. I boot in to windows and the a key works perfectly
[19:19] <rawrmonster> I have even tried killing the x server and trying to type the a key and that does not work as well
[19:19] <pakair> rawrmonster, I assume you installed a US English linux
[19:20] <rawrmonster> Yes I am using the english version of ubuntu 14.04
[19:22] <rawrmonster> Any ideas?
[19:23] <pakair> rawrmonster, nope ... it does not make sense
[19:23] <Beldar> rawrmonster, Laptop or desktop, and do you have more than 1 keyboard to try?
[19:23] <critter> Hi, Im using ubuntu 14.04 as liveCD and it doesnt recognize my GPT partition, anyone can help me please?
[19:23] <rawrmonster> I have never seen something like this in all of the years i have used linux. I have seen wireless driver issues ethernet issues video cards but never a keyboard
[19:24] <rawrmonster> Beldar: its a laptop
[19:24] <Beldar> critter, This a a MS or apple computer or HD, details please.
[19:24] <Beldar> rawrmonster, Two questions?
[19:24] <critter> Beldar, its a 3TB disk, GPT partition created under windows, ntfs filesystem
[19:25] <critter> Beldar, on ubuntu it shows as a ~800GB partition and refuses to mount
[19:25] <rawrmonster> No just the keyboard issue. You asked me Laptop or Desktop
[19:25] <Beldar> critter, You want to dualboot with W8 right?
[19:25] <Beldar> rawrmonster, "do you have more than 1 keyboard to try?"
[19:25] <critter> Beldar, no I just want to mount that hd to copy some files
[19:26] <rawrmonster> Beldar: I have an external keyboard and the a key does work
[19:26] <Beldar> critter, Ah, okay just be exacting in your end goal, not an area I can really help in.
[19:26] <rawrmonster> Beldar: just not for the internal keyboard on linux only windows
[19:27] <louisdk> I have this strange issue. I've setup my system and keyboard layout to be in danish, however when I use my bluetooth micro keyboard it has us layout. If I connect a USB keyboard and type something it has dk layout and then my bluetooth keyboard becomes dk layout too. This is strange.
[19:27] <critter> anyone having troubles with gpt partition?
[19:28] <Beldar> rawrmonster, I would replace the internal, probably cheap, your issue really makes no sense, at least to me, if the external works in ubuntu.
[19:29] <rawrmonster> Beldar: but how does the keyboard a key work on windows just not linux but you are saying its a hardware issue. If it was a hardware issue wouldn't it not work on windows as well
[19:30] <Beldar> critter, see post 2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1669637&s=dab2c1a9e806eaecd731ed8d27ca340f
[19:31] <pakair> rawrmonster, there is an app in linux that echoes the hex value of a key pressed. Maybe Beldar remembers ...
[19:31] <Beldar> rawrmonster, ##hardware may be a better place to get help.
[19:31] <Beldar> pakair, lol hardly, if you know go for it.
[19:32] <pleasehelppme> zykotick9: I downloaded from the list of trusted torrents posted and it's still giving me a wrong hash.
[19:32] <pleasehelppme> I'm using this to calculate md5, does it work? http://onlinemd5.com/
[19:33] <zykotick9> pleasehelppme: unless you share which ISO name (Exactly) you are downloading, we can't confirm your MD5 is wrong...
[19:33] <OerHeks> pleasehelppme, from what trusted list?
[19:33] <pleasehelppme> This is the name "ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386"
[19:33] <pleasehelppme> without the quotations
[19:34] <willselby> join _flood
[19:34] <willselby> hey
[19:34] <pleasehelppme> with .iso at the end
[19:34] <willselby> whats up
[19:34] <OerHeks> pleasehelppme, no the url please
[19:34] <pleasehelppme> Oerheks, there was a list provided by the bot in this chat... Let me find it one sec
[19:34] <pakair> rawrmonster, got it ... run the command showkey -a then press a key, it shows its value. Does a generate a value?
[19:34] <willselby> anyone need help?
[19:34] <Beldar> willselby, Do you have a ubuntu support issue?
[19:34] <willselby> did you say?
[19:35] <willselby> nah
[19:35] <willselby> i am good
[19:35] <pleasehelppme> Oerheks: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/trusty/desktop/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:35] <willselby> just installing Kali operating system
[19:35] <willselby> anyone else use it?
[19:35] <Gar> willselby: me
[19:35] <OerHeks> pleasehelppme, oke, that rules out wrong sources
[19:35] <Beldar> willselby, This channel works with you waiting for a post you might know an answer to, or asking for help. It is obvious when help is needed.
[19:35] <zykotick9> !kali | willselby
[19:36] <zykotick9> willselby: note, kali isn't even based on ubuntu...
[19:36] <willselby> kk
[19:36] <willselby> backtrack was
[19:36] <willselby> so i assumed
[19:36] <willselby> sorry
[19:36] <Gar> Debian based
[19:37] <Blue_Knight> Ubuntu is debian based too.
[19:37] <pleasehelppme> OerHeks: I keep getting this
[19:37] <pleasehelppme> http://i.imgur.com/aA82DBx.png
[19:37] <OerHeks>  md5 c4d4d037d7d0a05e8f526d18aa25fb5e
[19:37] <pleasehelppme> The number in the redbox keeps changing
[19:37] <Gar> true
[19:38] <pleasehelppme> How did you get that md5 OerHeks, maybe I'm calculating it wrong?
[19:38] <pleasehelppme> The program I'm using is doing it wrong I mean
[19:38] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[19:38] <pleasehelppme> I mean, how can I calculate the hash of my file
[19:38] <pakair> pleasehelppme, md5sum <filename>
[19:39] <OerHeks> md5sum /path/to/iso
[19:40] <willselby> cya i g2g hope you lot all sort out your stuff
[19:41] <step21> hej ... so anyone familiar with adding ssh keys to the keyring?
[19:42] <arkore> hello, i just installed some updates for 14.04, and now my "remove nosetmode (from boot grub.cfg)" trick isn't working anymore.  i see low-res black screen with blinking cursor for several seconds, then changes to pure black screen.
[19:43] <pleasehelppme> pakair: I'm using Windows 7 right now :/
[19:43] <pleasehelppme> I'm not sure how to run md5sum, doesn't work in cmd or run
[19:44] <step21> pleasehelppme, you have to download it there, it does not ship with windows
[19:44] <Gar> Anyone else having problems with springseed + 14.04?
[19:45] <step21> pleasehelppme, try this http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=11533
[19:45] <pleasehelppme> step21, what do you mean? I just want to do an md5sum check of the iso file I downloaded from ubuntu
[19:45] <pleasehelppme> Ohhh
[19:45] <pleasehelppme> I see :)
[19:45] <step21> pleasehelppme, yes, but under windows. unless you installed it, there is no md5sum there
[19:45] <arkore> hmm, adding nosetmode back in, still doesn't fix the problem.  i get black screen anyways
[19:46] <arkore> my system was fine before i installed these updates today
[19:47] <pleasehelppme> step21: So I should run fciv.exe?
[19:48] <Beldar> arkore, Any indication of this being a partial update, or any packages held with it?
[19:48] <zykotick9> arkore: typo?  do you mean nomodeset?
[19:48] <data> I am following the description in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel , but I only get http://pastebin.com/8Rvg6pCi
[19:49] <pleasehelppme> Where should I put fciv.exe?
[19:49] <arkore> well i just determined that my "remove nosetmode (from boot grub.cfg)" trick isn't the cause.  the problem is still happening now, suddenly today after installing partial updates today.  ubuntu 14.04.  i dont know what the updates were for, i just know they around roughly 64mb in size total.
[19:49] <arkore> yah, typo, sorry.  nomodeset
[19:50] <pleasehelppme> OHH
[19:50] <pleasehelppme> I GET IT
[19:50] <haroldofurtado> hello guys
[19:50] <pleasehelppme> Hey haroldofurtado!
[19:50] <haroldofurtado> think of intall ubuntu 14.04
[19:50] <arkore> my system rebooted fine after the updates.  but when i rebooted again, now i get black screen forever.
[19:51] <haroldofurtado> can you give informations if radeon has support on ubuntu?
[19:51] <Beldar> arkore,  grub.cfg is the wrong change area, you know this right/etc/default/grub is where you would put nomodeset
[19:51] <arkore> im new to linux, so im not sure what sort of troubleshoot steps to take here
[19:51] <pleasehelppme> Oerheks!! :D I got the same md5 as I should have now! c4d4d037d7d0a05e8f526d18aa25fb5e
[19:51] <haroldofurtado> last time i've tried to use linux with radeon i got some problems
[19:53] <qstrahl> How do I create a custom launcher in the unity dash?
[19:53] <ademoglu_> #pyistanbul
[19:53] <yash069> i installed ubuntu a pc which was already running windows 8 (no uefi, it a old pc).... i made three partions /boot, / and swap
[19:53] <arkore> Beldar, the location has changed to /boot/grub/grub.cfg for new versions of ubuntu.  to prove this is correct, i edited that file and removed "nomodeset", and i confirmed it was removed because i see it removed in grub boot menu when i reboot my machine and press "e" to edit the boot config before booting.  i can see "nomodeset" is gone.
[19:54] <yash069> also i modified mbr with easybcd
[19:54] <arkore> but even when i add it back in, my system still gives black screen forever now, instead of giving my a low-res 800x600 black screen.
[19:54] <dumptruck> i'm trying to use parted to create a 256mb mbr primary partition, as per https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem but when i run 'mkpart primary 0.0 256' i get 'the resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance'
[19:54] <darky_> Greetings.. I'd like to know how to put an user in the sudo group?
[19:55] <llutz> darky_: sudo adduser username sudo
[19:55] <Beldar> arkore, You misunderstand grub to some extent and how to add to the kernels boot, it is done 99% of the time in, /etc/default/grub
[19:56] <yash069> llutz: i think he want to add existing user to sudo
[19:56] <llutz> yash069:yes
[19:56] <yash069> so wont it be usermod
[19:56] <yash069> instead of adduser ?
[19:56] <dumptruck> sudo nano /etc/group, add the username to the sudo line
[19:56] <llutz> yash069: if you like, i'd use adduser
[19:56] <darky_> llutz: Thanks...
[19:57] <Beldar> !visudo
[19:57] <llutz> dumptruck: don' edit group/passwd file directly to avoid breaking stuff
[19:57] <yash069> Beldar: ubottu is missing :(
[19:57] <dumptruck> llutz: you're right, that is bad practice. don't do that darky_ ;P
[19:57] <arkore> ahh, i can get back into ubuntu now.  it was because of typo.  it's not "nosetmode", it's "nomodeset" -- okay, now i'll check on /etc/default/grub to see if that exists
[19:58] <Mario_> Can someone please help me?
[19:58] <Beldar> yash069, No, there is visudo in ubottu's base. http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=wifi
[19:58] <yash069> Mario_: yes if you would ask instead of asking to ask ...
[19:58] <Beldar> yash069, er, is no
[19:59] <darky_>  dumptruck Heh.. Also an alternative..
[19:59] <Mario_> Well, I need to get internet on my Ubuntu 12.04
[19:59] <Mario_> Any idea how this can be done?
[19:59] <llutz> Mario_: plug in network cable, wait 10 sec, done
[19:59] <Beldar> !details > Mario_
[20:00] <dumptruck> I figured out my parted alignment issue - start the range with a percent (0%) instead of just 0.0
[20:00] <Mario_> It doesn't work...
[20:00] <Mario_> I'm trying to connect to the internet on Ubuntu
[20:00] <arkore> Beldar, i see /etc/default/grub exists, but looks like it's a different format configuration.  heh.  i do see "nomodeset" in there.  i see two lines (related):  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"
[20:00] <Mario_> Do I need to set up a new connection?
[20:00] <Blue_Knight> is there any way of making dial-up connection on a sm56k modem?
[20:00] <Bashing-om> haroldofurtado: AMD dropped support for some popular grahics cards the 2X/3X/4x HD series cards have been relagated to "legacy", no FGLRX drivers are available in later releases.
[20:01] <yash069> i installed ubuntu a pc which was already running windows 8 (no uefi, it a old pc).... i made three partions /boot, / and swap and also i modified mbr with easybcd
[20:01] <arkore> Beldar, so to disable nomodeset, i would change that GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX to be: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" ?
[20:01] <yash069> plz some help with this ^
[20:01] <haroldofurtado> Bashing-om: im using a 7970 card
[20:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> eurovision?
[20:01] <haroldofurtado> i will try to get informations if it works well
[20:01] <Beldar> arkore, Yes you do, however you change it in the file I keep telling you, than run sudo update-grub to modify grub.cfg
[20:01] <haroldofurtado> that's my main problem about any linux system
[20:01] <haroldofurtado> i use it to work on my job
[20:01] <Bashing-om>  haroldofurtado
[20:01] <Barridus> does eurovision even work in ubuntu?!
[20:01] <haroldofurtado> but on my desk
[20:01] <haroldofurtado> i like play some games
[20:02] <Mario_> I wanna connect to the internet on Ubuntu 12.04 (using Virtualbox). Do I need to set up a new connection? If so do I use my internet information for my Windows 8 (My home network) to Ubuntu?
[20:02] <haroldofurtado> and steam as i could see is giving a lot of support
[20:02] <Bashing-om> haroldofurtado: Should have no problems, what is the issue you are experiencing ( if any ?) .
[20:02] <haroldofurtado> i dont acctually have any issue at the moment
[20:02] <haroldofurtado> i had in the past
[20:02] <arkore> Beldar, ok.  after i do that, i fear that I will run into my previous issue before, where i get a black screen now (suddenly today, after doing ubuntu updates).  yesterday, was working fine and my screen would display, and be at correct resolution.
[20:02] <haroldofurtado> and it was really bad experience
[20:03] <Mario_> I wanna connect to the internet on Ubuntu 12.04 (using Virtualbox). Do I need to set up a new connection? If so do I use my internet information for my Windows 8 (My home network) to Ubuntu? Any idea what I should do?
[20:03] <haroldofurtado> i can remember that i had to compile the kernel to make my graphics work
[20:03] <haroldofurtado> but i will try do use ubuntu
[20:03] <haroldofurtado> maybe i get success
[20:03] <haroldofurtado> sorry about my english
[20:03] <Bashing-om> haroldofurtado: For games, you 'might' get better perfomance with the FGLRX drivers; have you checked Additional Drivers utility to see what is available for drivers ?
[20:04] <haroldofurtado> nop
[20:04] <haroldofurtado> But what im saying is that i had problem in the past
[20:04] <gdoteof> i just got ubuntu 14.04 trying to get a CPU temp indicator on the taskbar
[20:04] <haroldofurtado> and wasnt using this graphic car
[20:04] <haroldofurtado> *card
[20:04] <haroldofurtado> was another one
[20:04] <haroldofurtado> but amd as well
[20:04] <haroldofurtado> well
[20:04] <haroldofurtado> i will have a try
[20:04] <dumptruck> I am following a howto that instructs me to set 'type=BE' on a partition in parted, but I don't understand what that means. it's not a Flag, it's not a Type (type is already primary), does anyone know what this means?
[20:05] <Beldar> arkore, If you have been modifying grub.cfg, you have been making mistakes, is all I can say, you can fear what you want, my concern would be improper use of the grub mods.
[20:05] <vicsar> .
[20:05] <haroldofurtado> at the moment i got one ubuntu server on amazon
[20:05] <haroldofurtado> it works pretty well
[20:05] <haroldofurtado> but i do it for job
[20:05] <haroldofurtado> i would like to get everything i need done in a ubuntu
[20:05] <Bashing-om> haroldofurtado: Depending on what you installed in the past, and how you did it, and IF other drivers were NOT removed, yeah there can be problems, anytime one departs from ubuntu's package management system.
[20:05] <arkore> Beldar, well i updated the file you told me to update, and i did "sudo update-grub", and it says it generated a new grub config file.  would that newly generated grub config file be correct(not custom modified) now?
[20:05] <haroldofurtado> so i will be able to be free from windows plataform
[20:06] <haroldofurtado> as i could see
[20:06] <haroldofurtado> ubuntu and every linux is getting easyer
[20:06] <haroldofurtado> and I could see that more people is using linux
[20:06] <haroldofurtado> so
[20:07] <haroldofurtado> maybe i could get more support
[20:07] <haroldofurtado> that's great
[20:07] <Hadron2> Is anyone here using  PHY->Bond->Bridge/VLAN networking to run KVM VMs?
[20:07] <haroldofurtado> because I really like the philosophy
[20:08] <haroldofurtado> aboout open source
[20:08] <Beldar> !ot > haroldofurtado
[20:08] <haroldofurtado> and I alrady contibuted with some open source projets
[20:08] <Beldar> this is support, not a soapbox chat
[20:09] <Hadron2> I had a 13.10 with that setup running very well since last November, supporting 7 VMs on 3 VLANs. I upgraded it to 14.04 last night. VLANs quit working. I rolled it back to 13.10 this morning, and VLANs are still not working/.
[20:09] <haroldofurtado> ubottu: right
[20:10] <Beldar> arkore, Correct in what sense?
[20:10] <Bashing-om> haroldofurtado: All I can relate to ya, I switched to ubuntu many years past, and have never had an ocassion to look back. I have always been able to find the means to work within ubuntu. Admittedly, sometimes there is the need to do some tweaking. Standard install is one size fits all, and there are those times that I need to do a bit of tailoring to make it fit my needs.
[20:10] <arkore> correct because it was generated.  fresh.  new config.
[20:10] <arkore> besides, the only thing i ever changed in grub.cfg was removing the word "nomodeset", and i put that back now.  so, it's not a problem with that.
[20:11] <arkore> so, the partial upgrade today (for ubuntu 14.04) broke my screen display
[20:11] <arkore> when i choose not to have "nomodeset" (by editing /etc/default/grub to remove nomodeset, then sudo update-grub) no longer works.  -- now i'm forced to keep "nomodeset", which puts my screen display will be back to 1024x768 again, which is bad.
[20:12] <Hadron2> I'm not sure what I've missed, if anything. I am using the same 'interfaces', same modules, same utilities as I was before. Tagged traffic will not pass.
[20:12] <Bashing-om> Beldar: -> haroldofurtado :: off my soapbox, back to support.
[20:12] <arkore> how do i revert partial upgrade (updates)
[20:12] <haroldofurtado> Bashing-om: kkkk
[20:12] <haroldofurtado> Bashing-om: ok
[20:12] <haroldofurtado> Bashing-om: i will give informations about my experience
[20:13] <haroldofurtado> Bashing-om: i soon i had time to install it
[20:13] <Beldar> arkore, I have no idea what you did in /etc/default/grub if you added nomodeset in this line like this    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  han  ran sudo update-grub you have modified grub.cfg correctly.
[20:13] <Beldar> and*
[20:14] <arkore> Beldar, there are two lines.  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" --- i changed  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"  to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""  and saved, and sudo update-grub
[20:15] <Beldar> arkore, I asked about this partial update earlier, did this happen? Partial updates can brick your setup.
[20:15] <qstrahl> Is there a way to make Unity tile my windows evenly across the active workspace?
[20:15] <Bashing-om> haroldofurtado: A word of advise, install ubuntu as a "dual boot" until the time you are very happy with ubuntu.
[20:15] <haroldofurtado> well
[20:16] <haroldofurtado> if I can get my games on
[20:16] <arkore> yes, the partial updates i did today break my trick(of not using nomodeset(so i can get proper screen display resolution)).  since partial updates today, i have no choice but to use nomodeset, so i can login in and see my screen; my screen is forced at 1024x768 now, which is bad.
[20:16] <haroldofurtado> i don't think i will use windows anymore
[20:16] <haroldofurtado> already don't use it for work
[20:16] <qstrahl> haroldofurtado, Thankfully lots of games are moving to Ubuntu =)
[20:16] <haroldofurtado> just wanted to be able to have this possibility on my desk
[20:17] <haroldofurtado> yes I know
[20:17] <haroldofurtado> steam is working on it as well
[20:17] <haroldofurtado> and for me it's great
[20:17] <arkore> Beldar, do you see what i'm saying?
[20:17] <Bashing-om> haroldofurtado: Ya need to go the #ubuntu-offtopic , they can address that type of concern.
[20:17] <Beldar> arkore, Ah, that makes this a more complex problem, I can't help, other than to say don't ever run a partial again, just wait till all the dependencies are in the repos if that is the issue
[20:17] <haroldofurtado> going there
[20:18] <arkore> Beldar, i guess i don't know what "partial" really means.  because Ubuntu prompted me to install new updates -- similar to how Windows would prompt you to install new windows updates.
[20:18] <arkore> how do i know when to wait, and how long to wait?
[20:18] <Gerowen> What would make an LED start flickering?
[20:19] <Gerowen> The one in the meter on my CB radio started flickering on me.  When I hook another LED up to the power leads with it, it works fine.
[20:19] <gmacario> join #ivi
[20:20] <Beldar> arkore, A partialo will show as a warning in the update managers gui. If you use a apt-get update it will show as held packages. In general the held packages are just dependencies not in the repos, but usually show up shortly. This is a general scenario gthat open source has at times with different teams working on apps....etc.
[20:20] <Beldar> partial*
[20:20] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, all windows by default open at position 0,0 inside of the units launcher and menu bar instead of outside of it. How can I fix this. It's really annoying to press ctrl+space and manually move the window every single time I open a new terminal
[20:21] <Pinkamena_D> unity*
[20:22] <arkore> Beldar, how do i notify the people (at Ubuntu) about my problem?
[20:23] <Beldar> arkore, Your problem is one that is your mistake is all.
[20:24] <Hadron2> Is anyone here using  PHY->Bond->Bridge/VLAN networking to run KVM VMs?
[20:24] <zykotick9> arkore: fyi, if you ever get a "partial upgrade" offered, DON'T do it!  it translates to, your system is gonna break.  BUT, i'm not sure why you'd get a "partial" upgrade, under normal circumstances...
[20:24] <Beldar> arkore, If I understand your issue, "IE a partial update leads to broken OS"
[20:24] <arkore> Beldar, i wouldn't consider it my mistake for having particular hardware that ubuntu doesn't support.  Also, there are plenty of posts online where Ubuntu users recommend "remove nomodeset" to people, which now longer works with the recent updates today.
[20:24] <arkore> i just want to let Ubuntu know that the updates today break that "remove nomodeset" solution.
[20:24] <Beldar> partials are rather unusual as zykotick9 suggests arkore
[20:25] <arkore> no longer*
[20:25] <arkore> hmm, ok
[20:25] <arkore> bah.
[20:25] <Beldar> arkore, You are not at all accurate in your rhetoric is all, this is a user mistake, period
[20:26] <arkore> how is it a user mistake?  how am i supposed to know not to install updates when Ubuntu prompts me to install updates.
[20:26] <Beldar> arkore, I did this same thing years ago, it happens.
[20:26] <Beldar> arkore, Research.
[20:27] <arkore> why would someone research "should i install updates that Ubuntu prompts me to install (especially when a bunch of the updates say Security)" ?
[20:29] <arkore> i mean, the thought would never occur to me to think that, to research that.
[20:29] <arkore> at this point, i'd like to contact Ubuntu and suggest that they add a "WARNING" disclaimer on the "Updates prompt window"
[20:29] <Ben64> i'm curious as to why nomodeset is bad. it doesn't stop you from using other resolutions
[20:31] <Beldar> arkore, Where sis you see any indication of a partial update
[20:31] <Beldar> did*
[20:31] <Ben64> arkore: an exclamation point isn't enough? http://public.ok2life.com/uploaded/images/Screenshot-update-manager-1.png
[20:31] <Beldar> arkore, Did you see the image Ben64 has shared with us?
[20:31] <bert__> hello, anyone able to help a unbuntu noob
[20:31] <Beldar> !details > bert__
[20:31] <Ben64> bert__: if you fully describe your problem, perhaps someone can
[20:31] <bert__> :)
[20:31] <arkore> Ben64, some systems with certain video card hardware doesn't work with nomodeset.  plenty of people have this problem.  on ubuntu forums, they say to "remove nomodeset", and that fixes the known issue of "black screen with blinking cursor" ... but the updates i did today, break that "remove nomodeset" solution.
[20:31] <bert__> I've just installed un
[20:31] <bert__> b
[20:31] <Beldar> arkore, answer the questions?
[20:32] <arkore> Beldar, that is not the prompt i received.  perhaps "prompt" is the wrong term for me to use.
[20:32] <arkore> these were just regular Updates window
[20:32] <Ben64> arkore: ok? but nomodeset still doesn't force you to a certain resolution
[20:32] <bert__> I've just installed ubuntu and I get sound from headphones but not speakers, ive opened up the sound manager and the output isnt muted, ive checked the pulse manager and the output says speakers (unavailable)
[20:33] <arkore> the updates came from the Software Updater.
[20:33] <arkore> Ben64, nomodeset limits me (and other people) to resoltuions 800x600 and 1024x768 only
[20:33] <qstrahl> Is there a way to make Unity tile my windows evenly across the active workspace? Even if it's just once, not a continuous thing
[20:34] <bert__> ive googled and tried a few solutions from forums but couldn't make any work
[20:34] <jrib> qstrahl: i would be surprised if there isn't a compiz plug-in/shortcut for that.  You can use wmctrl to program your own or use a different wm
[20:35] <qstrahl> jrib, Where would I look for such a plugin-in/shortcut?
[20:35] <jrib> !ccsm | qstrahl
[20:35] <qstrahl> I've got compizconfig-settings-manager. Somewhere in there, then?
[20:36] <Beldar> arkore, I think the key here honestly is this statement, "im new to linux, so im not sure what sort of troubleshoot steps to take here" And unwilling to logically think through this. Scenario: You were modifying grub incorrectly, and may have made a partial update, and are unwilling to possibly accept a mistake on your part as the crux of the issue.
[20:37] <arkore> possible, but the only modification i made to grub.cfg was removing "nomodeset" word.  hard to believe that would cause a problem.  regardless, i did what you said and updated grub properly now, and it said it generated a new grub config.  so, everything should be fine now.
[20:39] <bert__> Beldar > Got the bot message, do you think I explained enough above, what other details may be required
[20:39] <Ben64> bert__: ubuntu version, which sound card
[20:41] <bert__> Realtek ALC262  and Ubuntu 14.04
[20:42] <bert__> hda intel realtek if that makes a difference
[20:42] <ahmedfarahat> hello
[20:42] <ahmedfarahat> any body from china
[20:47] <bert__> :/
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> !sound | bert__
[20:49] <bert__> I've checked my sound settings, in output it says speakers unavailable
[20:49] <Sceptic> Hello. I would like to p2p-download one of this files: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/pending/ . Is it possible in Transmission?
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> Sceptic: try copy paste that metalink into transmission/open url
[20:52] <Sceptic> lotuspsychje, You mean url or interior?
[20:53] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: can you torrent anything now a days?  i'd think a torrent would be required, and i doubt dailys have torrents created for them.
[20:53] <sarthor> Hi, this command make changes in multiple files inside a directory, perl -pi -e 's/text1/TEXT2/g' *, but If there are directories inside that DIR and want to change Text in all those directories and child directories. So What changes I will need to make to this command. HELP
[20:54] <guest1241235> there are torrent links on this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[20:54] <guest1241235> but not for dailies i guess
[20:54] <xpower> hello
[20:59] <xpower> clear
[21:01] <dumptruck> hmm, failed to fetch zfs-native/grub/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages -- maybe I shouldn't be installing zfs-on-root onm 14.04, but rather 12.04
[21:03] <as> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1399720884
[21:03] <SquidsofAnger> yo
[21:03] <AndroUserffffhhh> Yo yo
[21:03] <SquidsofAnger> I need help correcting what I believe to be this bug: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/foundations-bugs/2014-March/184032.html
[21:04] <qstrahl> How would I go about using wmctrl to make a compiz plugin?
[21:05] <AndroUserffffhhh> Hw!
[21:06] <hamahama> AndroUserffffhhh: stop spamming .
[21:06] <pertamedika> test
[21:07] <lotuspsychje> !test | pertamedika
[21:07] <hamahama> !echo
[21:07] <AliG1000> I am running Windows 7 but found VMWare and Virtualware were too slow when running Ubuntu 14.04, so I when down the dual-boot road.  Ubuntu loads but freezes after the password entry bit.  I have tried Ctrl Alt F1 (and everythiung else).  Just completely frozen.  Any idea of what I should do?
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> AliG1000: your machine is new or older hardware?
[21:08] <SquidsofAnger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7443552/
[21:08] <Beldar> AliG1000, Has it ever loaded from the login?
[21:09] <AliG1000> @Beldar I can enter the password with no problems, and then it has the splash screen with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS at the bottom - and then nothing
[21:10] <Beldar> AliG1000, That does not answer the question.
[21:10] <AliG1000> if that is what you meant by loading from the login
[21:10] <jason_> ughhhh
[21:10] <SquidsofAnger> \then seeing if there are problems with packages
[21:11] <Beldar> AliG1000, The question is, has it ever worked since the install, have you seen the full working desktop yet? the issue is, is this from the get go, or after updates, or any other work you have done on the install, in other words exact details.
[21:12] <AliG1000> @Beldar  I have only seen the full desktop when I have installed it on a trial basis
[21:12] <AliG1000> I installed it without getting the updates (the option is given to install with ot without)
[21:13] <AliG1000> I figured I could update it after it had installed
[21:13] <jason_> anyone know the default channel for linux mint?
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> !mint | jason_
[21:14] <Beldar> AliG1000, Be careful in the words you use here trial basis could mean several things, a vm, a live environment, without your exact meaning included.
[21:14] <AliG1000> I guess I could re-install it WITH updates but at this point, I do not know how to uninstall the version I have (or simply to update it now)
[21:14] <jason_> i know its not supported. but ty
[21:15] <Beldar> AliG1000, So, when you installed ubuntu this time it booted to a working desktop, than you ran a update/upgrade and are where you are at now, is this correct?
[21:16] <AliG1000> Ah, I see.  I have the .iso on a DVD.  I set the boot order to read the DVD first and I was given an option to Try Ubuntu or Install it.  The Try option did work so I then went to install it - and am at the situation I am in now
[21:16] <Beldar> !nomodeset | AliG1000 try this
[21:17] <AliG1000> When I installed it (rather then the trial option), it did not go to the desktop.  It stopped at the splash screen
[21:17] <qstrahl> How would I go about using wmctrl to make a compiz plugin?
[21:17] <qstrahl> (Doesn't look like Compiz has what I want)
[21:19] <bel3atar> what replace /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[21:19] <bel3atar> s/e/es
[21:20] <AliG1000> @Beldar after reading that link, it looks like it would be easier to uninstall Ubuntu first.  Any idea how I should uninstall at this point?
[21:20] <OerHeks> service network-manager restart
[21:21] <Beldar> AliG1000, Hardly, that link just tells how to boot with nomodeset added in sevral scenarios, IE a live cd or install. What makes you thin a new install is the answer?
[21:21] <Beldar> think*
[21:21] <OerHeks> ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up
[21:22] <bel3atar> OerHeks: not really
[21:22] <bel3atar> OerHeks: does that re-read /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:22] <OerHeks> .. not really?
[21:23] <zykotick9> bel3atar: if you are using /e/n/interfaces OerHeks's ifdown/ifup is probably your best bet.
[21:23] <AliG1000> @Beldar  Because when In installed it, I was given the option to install with or without updates.  Maybe if I installed with updates it would be smoother.  I am guessing.  But as it is I have a dead splash screen with no idea how to resolve it.  I don't even know how to uninstall at this point as nothing is responding
[21:24] <Beldar> AliG1000, Is your windows 7 imaged/cloned off the HD?
[21:24] <AliG1000> @Beldar not sure what that means :)
[21:25] <Beldar> AliG1000, The question is can you reload windows if the HD gets bricked.
[21:26] <AliG1000> When I switch off the computer, I am able to boot into Windows 7.  I do have a re-install disk should everything mess up.
[21:26] <Beldar> AliG1000, I am a bit concerned that your booty is covered when I see no real understanding of how to remove or just re install ubuntu in the same partitions with the update on install ticked.
[21:28] <AliG1000> Maybe it is the disk partioning the messed things up.  I only went with the options presented with the Ubuntu install
[21:29] <Beldar> AliG1000, Does windows boot?
[21:30] <AliG1000> yes - when I switch off the machine, I am given several options of how to boot - Windowes is one of them
[21:30] <AliG1000> and it does boot into Windows OK
[21:32] <Beldar> AliG1000, Good, You can use a safeboot option that is like the nomodeset link I sent you in the recovery option at the grub menu. This may as simple as a graphic driver needing to be loaded, which is easier from the install desktop. You may do re-install with the updates on and be in the same place.
[21:33] <Beldar> may be*
[21:33] <AliG1000> OK - I shall try it now
[21:37] <SquidsOfRage> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418448/
[21:37] <SquidsOfRage> this be the problem
[21:38] <amartinenco> Hello, was ubuntu overheating fixed in the new release?
[21:38] <Beldar> SquidsOfRage, Touch has a channel #ubuntu-touch
[21:39] <SquidsOfRage> ?
[21:39] <SquidsOfRage> no.
[21:39] <SquidsOfRage> the aptop had a touch screen
[21:39] <SquidsOfRage> *laptop
[21:39] <Beldar> amartinenco, there is no general overheating issue.
[21:39] <SquidsOfRage> but the problem is irrelevant to ubuntu-touch
[21:39] <Beldar> SquidsOfRage, Are you running touch?
[21:40] <SquidsOfRage> no
[21:40] <Beldar> or the imaged ubuntu from tghem
[21:40] <Beldar> them?
[21:41] <amartinenco> Beldar: I was referring to the laptop specific issue. Many laptops used to die in 30 minutes or reboot due to overheating after 12.04 release. Was just curious if there are any issues with new 14th version.
[21:42] <folle-avena> ciao a tutta la community
[21:42] <Beldar> amartinenco, Many is a word not usable here, you can't empirically prove that, state your issue.
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> !it | folle-avena
[21:44] <Beldar> amartinenco, This is support for issues you actually have yourself, not a assumed situation from reading the web
[21:45] <phuh_> What's the best way to get the name "trusty"
[21:45] <phuh_> from the OS? (distribution name)
[21:45] <amartinenco> Beldar: I had heating issues on 12.04 and they went away once I put win7 back. Just wanted to ask. I guess ill have to install it and find out.
[21:45] <poseidon> Anyone here use varnish with wordpress?
[21:45] <SquidsOfRage> back
[21:45] <SquidsOfRage> sorry, wifi has been acting weird
[21:45] <SquidsOfRage> to reiterate
[21:45] <SquidsOfRage> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418448/
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> phuh_: lsb_release -a
[21:46] <phuh_> I only like to get "trusty"
[21:46] <zykotick9> phuh_: "lsb_release -sc"
[21:46] <phuh_> zykotick9: you are awesome
[21:49] <Pies> hi, I have a laptop with i7. Is there way to slow down cpu when temperature hit certain point?
[21:50] <lotuspsychje> Pies: maybe in bios there are cpu monitor settings?
[21:51] <folle-avena> hello
[21:51] <Pies> lotuspsychje: nope
[21:52] <Pies> lotuspsychje: and I was upgrading bios recently
[21:54] <lotuspsychje> !info i7z | Pies
[22:00] <folle-avena> ciao
[22:00] <folle-avena> ciao
[22:00] <Blue_Knight> !rules
[22:00] <folle-avena> 300 l'alba di un nuovo giorno
[22:00] <Blue_Knight> !it
[22:15] <mypassport> hi everybody
[22:18] <Blue_Knight> mypassport: What is your question?
[22:18] <Blue_Knight> !rules
[22:20] <mypassport> im new client.,ubuntu its very nice
[22:20] <Sascha_> need help: using lubuntu alternate installer, no way to continue install without selecting mirror server? (device without internet connection)
[22:20] <Blue_Knight> for chatting please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:21] <Blue_Knight> Sascha: What's the error you're getting?
[22:22] <Sascha_> none, just keeps repeating the dialogs to select one according to ur geographical area
[22:23] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: You just need to select one.
[22:23] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: It should install fine without internet connection.
[22:23] <Sascha_> then it says that it can't reach it and i should select another one
[22:24] <imdea> Hi one question.. I have an ubuntu 14.04 box and one user there called 'joel', his primary group is 'joel' as well, however he's also member of another group (admin). I have setup sudoers so that this user is able to execute all commands without password by adding this line: %admin ALL = NOPASSWD:ALL  but when this user logs in and does: "sudo su" he is asked for a password. Any ideas?
[22:24] <Sascha_> tried german and english language
[22:24] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: Just a moment...
[22:29] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: What version are you trying to install?
[22:29] <Sascha_> 14.04
[22:30] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: Could you give the download link from where you got it?
[22:30] <Beldar> imdea, sudo su has specidic uses and setting a nopassword is foolish
[22:30] <imdea> Beldar: foolish for you.
[22:31] <zykotick9> Beldar: i'd say "sudo su" has ZERO uses...
[22:31] <Beldar> imdea, heh, right nice original comeback.
[22:31] <Sascha_> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-i386.iso
[22:31] <imdea> users are being authenticated through ssh keys so they don¡t have "passwords".
[22:31] <Beldar> zykotick9, Yeah me to.
[22:32] <Beldar> imdea, Than include all pertinent details rather than being a smart ass.
[22:32] <imdea> Beldar, what?
[22:34] <new_cat> does it really matter if i plug a microphone into my desktop computer's microphone socket without turning off the computer first?
[22:34] <Beldar> new_cat, should not, why?
[22:35] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: Did you select the default options in the boot menu?
[22:35] <new_cat> Beldar: i was taught that the microphone socket isn't a plug-and-play one, so...
[22:36] <alcides> guys, what happened to lm-sensors? pwmconfig is not avaliable anymore?
[22:37] <Sascha_> Blue_Knight: Yes
[22:37] <psusi> alcides, what makes you say that?
[22:37] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: Did the DHCP test failed?
[22:37] <alcides> psu pwmconfig: command not found
[22:38] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: DHCP configuration*
[22:38] <alcides> psusi pwmconfig: command not found
[22:38] <psusi> alcides, should say: The program 'pwmconfig' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install fancontrol
[22:39] <Sascha_> Blue_Knight: yes, selected something like 'leave unconfigured'
[22:39] <Beldar> new_cat, May be somewhere, never found this to be the case. If there is a driver needed...etc this might be an issue in a reboot. Just my experience however.
[22:40] <Beldar> limited experience that is. ;)
[22:40] <keevitaja> https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/465257895790387200
[22:41] <Sascha_> Blue_Knight: also tried manual config, in both cases setup continued normal, next step asking for selcting ubuntu server
[22:42] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: That happens after the DHCP configuration then?
[22:42] <Sascha_> Blue_Knight: yes
[22:47] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: Did you select to install software from network mirror?
[22:48] <Sascha_> Blue_Knight: wasn't asked something like that as far as i remember
[22:49] <CowEggSeal> hi i have a medimum sized project that i want built please PM me if you are very good with sockets & php it is a paid task and i want to complete it ASAP
[22:50] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: You can try to reinstall. As long as it boots up, you click install.
[22:50] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: It should install without internet.
[22:52] <KD8MST_> Sascha_, Blue_Knight: i was not able to install without network connection 2 days ago when i installed 14.04
[22:52] <Blue_Knight> KD8MST_: It may be a bug then... Old versions go fine.
[22:52] <Sascha_> KD8MST_: lubuntu alternate (from usb)?
[22:53] <KD8MST_> Sascha_, Blue_Knight:i have bnot been able to go without a network connection since 12.04
[22:54] <KD8MST_> Sascha_: im not sure about lubuntu i have only messed with ubuntu desktop / server
[22:54] <Sascha_> Blue_Knight, KD8MST_: i read on one page that this 'error' happens in german but not english install-language with 12.04 or so
[22:54] <KD8MST_> Sascha_: and i ALWAYS install from USB
[22:54] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: I tested english...
[22:55] <Beldar> Sascha_, Why the alternate rather that the live gui lubuntu
[22:55] <Beldar> than*
[22:56] <UBuxuBU> i saw 14.04 download available? is it all ready and stable?
[22:56] <UBuxuBU> or are you recommending 12.04 still
[22:56] <Trending> Hello, I know this is off topic but I couldn't find anywhere to ask : Is there any hosting company ? Hosting reseller or anyone with knowledge regarding reseller hosting or just hostings in general. Thank you !
[22:56] <Beldar> !14.04 > UBuxuBU
[22:56] <CowEggSeal> PHP SERVER/CLIENT project being made and I need help I will pay for the help I get please PM me if you can help. SERIOUS people only. THANKS.
[22:57] <Beldar> UBuxuBU, What is supported is what is recommended if you want support, otherwise is a opinion.
[22:57] <Sascha_> Beldar: old notebook from parants, 768MB RAM, should i try the 'normal' installer?
[22:57] <UBuxuBU> how long has it been out stable i been gpone for awhile beldar
[22:57] <UBuxuBU> gone*
[22:58] <Beldar> UBuxuBU, This is support, that info is on the web, find it.
[22:58] <KD8MST_> Sascha_, Blue_Knight: sorry but i have to go if you need any help that you think i may be able to offer net me know @ kd8mst@gmail.com thanks
[22:58] <Blue_Knight> Sascha_: If it works in english then you can change language after install.
[22:58] <Sascha_> KD8MST_: thanks for help :)
[22:59] <Sascha_> Blue_Knight: thought the same, but problem is the same in english :(
[22:59] <Beldar> Sascha_, The live will run on that amount of ram, and will install easier in general. The alternative and the mini installs are not real tricky but I would use only when needed personally.
[23:00] <zykotick9> !alternative | Beldar
[23:00] <Beldar> zykotick9, lubuntu has a alternative still, heh, go figure. ;)
[23:00] <UBuxuBU> my laptop has 2gb ram do u recommend 32 or 64 bit?
[23:00] <Blue_Knight> 32
[23:00] <zykotick9> Beldar: ummm.  TIL
[23:00] <UBuxuBU> ok thanks blue
[23:01] <Beldar> I was surprised to be honest
[23:01] <UBuxuBU> ill make a fat 4 gb swap too
[23:01] <Sascha_> Beldar: live needs 200 + installer 700 > 768 installed :(
[23:01] <Bashing-om> Sascha_: with  "768MB RAM' the heavy weight ubuntu will not give you a good experience, - nother thought -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu .
[23:01] <Beldar> Sascha_, Which means?
[23:01] <Blue_Knight> UBuxuBU: The swap is only used after your RAM is all used..
[23:02] <UBuxuBU> yup
[23:02] <Sascha_> Bashing-om: i know, we are talking about lubuntu ;)
[23:02] <UBuxuBU> i dont want to have any memory issues
[23:02] <UBuxuBU> i do have a fast usb flash drive to use for swap too if that is possible
[23:03] <UBuxuBU> my HD is very slow x5400 unfortunately
[23:03] <zykotick9> UBuxuBU: oh my, swap on USB would be _VERY_ slow...
[23:03] <UBuxuBU> ok? thought it would beat my old x5400 hd
[23:03] <Beldar> Sascha_, The live or the alternative is the same install, it seems your issue is the repo link you don't need, being off line. THe live should install off line easier, do I have the scenario correct?
[23:03] <zykotick9> UBuxuBU: even a 5400k spin HD would be a lot faster...
[23:04] <UBuxuBU> ok thanks
[23:04] <UBuxuBU> guess ill go get 1404 32 bit then thanks all
[23:05] <Sascha_> Beldar: on some official pages they suggest alternate installer with 768MB RAM because it's too little for 'the normal one', but i think i'll have a try tomorrow
[23:05] <jeffersonwritter> good evening
[23:05] <Beldar> Sascha_, sure if all you have is a cd and the live is to big.
[23:06] <jeffersonwritter> some body help me here
[23:06] <jeffersonwritter> tks
[23:07] <Beldar> jeffersonwritter, If can actually describe the issue, maybe.
[23:07] <Beldar> you*
[23:07] <jeffersonwritter> yes
[23:07] <jeffersonwritter> simple
[23:07] <jeffersonwritter> display problem
[23:07] <jeffersonwritter> my ubuntu studio
[23:07] <zykotick9> !enter | jeffersonwritter
[23:07] <jeffersonwritter> only has 640x480
[23:07] <Sascha_> Beldar: yes, offline cause no internet access at all while install (nasty broadcom chip wlan)
[23:07] <Beldar> jeffersonwritter, All in one post please.
[23:07] <jeffersonwritter> I can't fixed
[23:08] <jeffersonwritter> ok
[23:08] <jeffersonwritter> display problem only 640x480 no option at all
[23:09] <zykotick9> jeffersonwritter: in a terminal, what does "lspci | grep -i vga" return?
[23:09] <Beldar> Sascha_, Broadcoms sometimes work on the live, if not you can set it up, but the live should do a install offline easier, was my only real input here.
[23:10] <jeffersonwritter> nothing happen I tried everything codes
[23:10] <Sascha_> Beldar: will have a try tomorrow
[23:10] <Beldar> cool
[23:11] <Sascha_> Beldar: if live + installer need more RAM than physically installed, does a swap help me?
[23:11] <Skaag> can I somehow get rid of policykit and console-kit?
[23:11] <Skaag> if all I need is X11 with a full screen webkit browser?
[23:11] <Beldar> Sascha_, You have plenty of ram for a lubuntu live install.
[23:12] <Beldar> Sascha_, Granted the installer uses some, but lubuntu is rather light is all
[23:13] <jeffersonwritter> jeffersonwritter-Positivo-Mobile:~$ lspci | grep -i vga
[23:13] <jeffersonwritter> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[23:13] <jeffersonwritter> some one can help
[23:13] <Beldar> Sascha_, lubuntu would be my choice to start at with that ram amount, than maybe open box with tint2 as a bit lighter, but more config orientated for changes.
[23:13] <zykotick9> jeffersonwritter: SiS video, good luck!
[23:14] <jeffersonwritter> tks
[23:14] <Sascha_> Beldar: ok, thanks for help
[23:16] <Bashing-om> jeffersonwritter: Yeah sis graphics are problematic, but -> release 14.04 now supports sis graphics. see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215422 ..
[23:17] <jeffersonwritter> tks
[23:17] <Blue_Knight> SIS support. Now I'm going to use my AMD-K6 2
[23:19] <OerHeks>  only support 2D meaning that the Unity Desktop in Ubuntu 14.04 is not supported for SIS Video Cards .. you could try this ppa https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/x-staging
[23:27] <viper3905gt> hi there
[23:27] <viper3905gt> im looking for some networking help
[23:27] <viper3905gt> am i in the right place?
[23:27] <zykotick9> OerHeks: so, SIS is still crappy... but "better" now.  good to know ;)
[23:28] <Bashing-om> !ask | viper3905gt
[23:29] <viper3905gt> ok .. my computer haz booted and turned off the eth0 card how do i turn it back on and reset the settings for it?
[23:29] <OerHeks> zykotick9, i assume that driver still does 2d, but workable, without flash i presume.
[23:30] <OerHeks> ifconfig eth0 up
[23:32] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt: Is your network managed ? .. might try -> sudo service network-manager restart <- .
[23:34] <viper3905gt> its back on thankyou
[23:34] <viper3905gt> i used "sudo ifconfig etho up"
[23:34] <viper3905gt> hope its not bad that i sudo'ed it
[23:34] <viper3905gt> ok now duz that also reset the settings?
[23:34] <viper3905gt> i messed with them and i got somthing wrong n i need to make it default agen
[23:35] <Xajin> Howdy Everyone, I have a python application that works great under http, but when I move to https it does not find the file, if I set the http to normal html page no troubles but when I go to my python app, I get standard 404, any one experianced with this I can show my vhost ssl?  I am using Ubuntu 14.04 with Apache
[23:35] <zykotick9> viper3905gt: fyi that ethZERO and NOT ethLETTER-O
[23:35] <viper3905gt> sorry o waz a typo ment 0
[23:44] <Noee> Holaa
[23:47] <viper3905gt> ok i restarted the networking service and i dont think it restarted it sez unknown instance network stop/wating.... i used sudo service networking restart also tryed start gave same info
[23:49] <PeterCassetta> Hi, I'm trying to run the Minecraft demo and I'm running into some (driver-related?) issues. Is this the right place to seek help?
[23:52] <PeterCassetta> I can upload a paste of the error if anyone's willing to assist
[23:52] <silvano>  http://xdccing.com/
[23:53] <PeterCassetta> Here's the error I'm getting if anyone decides to help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7444630/
[23:56] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt: I amy not be the best person to help, but I can try, pastebin -> ipconfig eth0 <-; let's see what the state is.
[23:56] <phuh> How do I save xxd dump back to binary?
[23:57] <viper3905gt> Bashing-om: i have no internet on that computer to pastebin it
[23:57] <igor__> owowowowowo
[23:58] <viper3905gt> and im in linux so wouldent that be ifconfig?
[23:59] <akurilin> Quick question: is it ok if I edit a crontab file in /var/spool/cron/crontab by hand or are there counterindications?