[01:36] <holstein> delt: those are outputs.. and not for proaudio, regardless
[01:36] <holstein> the impedance is for consumer audio equipment..
[01:45] <holstein> delt: personally, i avoid gear that doesnt have balanced connections.. im not saying you cant get "good" sound without a balance connection, but, a piece of gear with connections like that is trying to address a certain work flow
[04:00] <Guest68684> some musician here ?
[04:00] <Unit193> What's the question?
[04:00] <holstein> yes..
[04:02]  * holstein is a musician.. what do you need Guest68684 ?
[04:02] <Guest68684> well i have a nano 2 keys midi controller but only works with lmms no ardour, rosegarden or Qtractor , i have ubuntu studio 14
[04:02] <holstein> Guest68684: routing, likely
[04:03] <holstein> Guest68684: if it works with anything, then, it works with the system
[04:03] <Guest68684> i routed but no way
[04:03] <holstein> Guest68684: you do *not* need a musician for this question
[04:03] <holstein> Guest68684: you need someone familiar with MIDI
[04:03] <holstein> Guest68684: you routed in JACK? how, precisely?
[04:03] <Guest68684> i'm a por musician very known  i know midi since it appears
[04:04] <Guest68684> yes
[04:04] <holstein> Guest68684: sure.. but this is *not* the same as the MIDI you and i have used
[04:04] <Guest68684> i think it the controller because drivers
[04:04] <holstein> Guest68684: no
[04:05] <holstein> Guest68684: if it were "controller because of drivers" it wouldnt work
[04:05] <holstein> Guest68684: you state it is working.. correct?
[04:05] <Guest68684> yes
[04:05] <Guest68684> nano works very well in wine
[04:05] <holstein> Guest68684: ok.. then, *how* are you routing? with JACK?
[04:05] <Guest68684> q software
[04:06] <holstein> Guest68684: q software?
[04:06] <Guest68684> qjack
[04:06] <holstein> correct... you are routing in JACK? JACK is running?
[04:06] <holstein> !proaudio
[04:07] <Guest68684> yes but messages always very weird and diferents
[04:07] <holstein> Guest68684: ^ have you read that?
[04:07] <holstein> Guest68684: what messages?
[04:07] <Guest68684> yes
[04:07] <holstein> Guest68684: from where?
[04:07] <holstein> Guest68684: so, are yuo running jack?
[04:07] <Guest68684> i post my problem there too
[04:07] <holstein> Guest68684: where?
[04:07] <Guest68684> many of them are diferents
[04:08] <holstein> Guest68684: the link i gave is a wiki page with information.. you dont post there
[04:08] <holstein> Guest68684: them what?
[04:08] <Guest68684> in LMMS nano works very well using jack instead of alsa
[04:09] <holstein> Guest68684: sure.. when you are running JACK, you need to configure applications to use JACK
[04:09] <Guest68684> in qtractor i used fluidsynth sf2 but also do not conect keyboard
[04:09] <holstein> Guest68684: ok.. *dont* do that
[04:09] <holstein> Guest68684: you have too many variables
[04:09] <holstein> Guest68684: please do the following
[04:09] <holstein> 1. see that JACK is running..
[04:10] <holstein> 2. open yoshimi
[04:10] <holstein> 3. use the virtual keyboard in the menu to insure that yoshimi is making sound, and routed properly for audio connections in JACK
[04:10] <Guest68684> ok
[04:11] <Guest68684> yoshimi do not open
[04:11] <holstein> 4. *then* move on to the midi connection of the nano to the application yoshimi *after* you have sound
[04:11] <Guest68684> ok
[04:11] <holstein> you may need to use a2jmidid to make the nano connect to yoshimi in the same tab in JACK.. *this* step can be why you are unable to make the connectsion
[04:11] <holstein> connections*
[04:12] <holstein> Guest68684: "yoshimi do not open" is not a question
[04:12] <Guest68684> a2jmidid i have to install it?
[04:13] <holstein> Guest68684: you'll need to install it if you dont have it.. you dont "have to" do *anything*..
[04:13] <Guest68684> i tell you i try to open yoshimi, and it doesn't open
[04:14] <holstein> Guest68684: sure.. thats *still* not a question, though
[04:14] <holstein> Guest68684: you can try "zynaddsubfx"
[04:15] <Guest68684> ok
[04:15] <Guest68684> thanks i will do your advice see you
[04:16] <holstein> well.. that happened
[06:31] <delt> Hello
[06:31] <delt> My laptop screen shuts itself off when i close the laptop lid, and there's no way to get it back on except to change console, or reboot
[06:31] <delt> even xrandr --auto, or xset dpms force on don't do it
[07:14] <zequence> delt: There was a post about that on the mail list. Seems like installing pm-utils solves it
[07:14] <zequence> We haven't yet had a chance to test it and fix it. Should be fixed within a month or less.
[07:26] <delt> zequence: using the nouveau drivers, pm-utils doesn't fix it :(
[07:26] <delt> (installed it, logged out and back in)
[07:26] <delt> now testing with the propriertary nvidia driver
[07:31] <delt> zequence: also doesn't work with the proprietary nvidia driver
[07:35] <zequence> delt: I will be taking a look at that, once I have time. If you happen to find a solution before I do, please let me know. I would appreciate it
[07:42] <delt> zequence: looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/248967/laptop-screen-stays-blank-after-lid-is-reopened
[07:43] <delt> zequence: i followed the instructions there, and the .sh file indeed gets called when opening/closing the lid, but there's no way for my laptop to reactivate the screen from /proc
[07:43] <delt> /proc, /sys, and /dev contain very little useful entries matching "lcd" :(
[08:02] <delt> zequence: tried this, failed --- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[08:15] <delt> zequence: booting with acpi=off fixes the problem, but disables some needed/useful stuff...
[09:47] <delt> zequence: for now i kludged it with a script that switches VT and back when the laptop lid is open....hideous, but (usually) works :/
[12:44] <zequence> delt: Thanks for the info. Might take me a couple of days before I get to that. If I find a neater solution, I'll ping you.
[14:29] <rhizo> Hi folks
[20:41] <delt> Hello
[20:41] <delt> bug: desktop settings shows only a blue square in the list of background wallpapers
[20:42] <zequence> delt: Was it always like that?
[20:42] <zequence> delt: Which release? How did you install it?
[20:43] <delt> zequence: fresh install on this machine, installed from dvd
[20:43] <delt> (laptop)
[20:43] <zequence> delt: trusty?
[20:43] <delt> yeah, 14.04
[20:43] <delt> let me check on the desktop if it "became" like this as well with some updates
[20:44] <delt> nope... though the weird little blue square appears for about half a second while the thumbnails of images load
[20:46] <delt> let's see if i change the directory...
[20:46] <zequence> delt: I have that too, before the wallpapers load
[20:47] <delt> zequence: on the laptop, it stays stuck with the little blue square
[20:47] <zequence> delt: what is the folder set on?
[20:48] <delt> both before (default directory from fresh install) and after i changed it to a directory with a bunch of backgrounds
[20:48] <zequence> It should say "ubuntustudio"
[20:48] <delt> yeah that's what it was on by default
[20:48] <zequence> and the path should be /usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntustudio
[20:49] <delt> oh btw there's no easy way to just click and go back to default
[20:49] <zequence> delt: That's unfortunately not on our table. That is XFCE development :)
[20:49] <delt> oh, yeah
[20:50] <delt> anyway i set it back to the default, and the little blue square is gone, though i still have an empty list.
[20:51] <delt> close the window, reopen it, the square is back.
[20:51] <delt> zequence: for me it's not a big deal since i use wallch to switch wallpapers randomly -)
[20:52] <delt> but for my parents, this needs to be user-friendly and without too much bugs...
[20:52] <delt> s/much/many/
[20:55] <zequence> delt: Are you in a Ubuntu Studio or a XFCE session?
[20:55] <zequence> delt: logout, and make sure
[20:57] <delt> ubuntu studio
[20:57] <delt> making sure, 2sec
[20:57] <delt> yep, ubuntu studio session
[20:58] <zequence> delt: the file that controls the path to wallpapers is /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml
[20:59] <zequence> delt: Could be you overriden that path in user settings
[20:59] <zequence> delt: have a look in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml
[21:00] <delt> /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml
[21:00] <delt> uh
[21:01] <delt> i mean http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/xfce4-desktop.xml
[21:01] <zequence> delt: If the file I posted last does not have the correct path to wallpapers - /usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntustudio, then delete it
[21:01] <zequence> delt: check the file in user settings, since that is the only one that should change easily
[21:01] <delt> zequence: does wallch futz around with that file to change desktop wallpapers?
[21:02] <delt> zequence: anyway the problem was present before i installed wallch (which i just did a few minutes ago)
[21:03] <delt> http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/xfce4-desktop.xml
[21:06] <zequence> delt: Actually, that is probably not it, now that I look closer
[21:08] <delt> oops, that second link was meant to be http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/user-xfce4-desktop.xml
[21:08] <delt> that's the one in my ~
[21:08] <delt> the first one was the one in /etc
[21:09] <zequence> delt: Could be we are missing a possible setting
[21:10] <delt> just removed it, and re-ran the desktop settings, still same bug
[21:10] <zequence> delt: If you select a wallpaper in /usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntustudio/, it should become default
[21:11] <delt> in wallch?
[21:11] <delt> i can't select individual files in the desktop settings
[21:11] <zequence> delt: No, in the xfce desktop settings
[21:11] <zequence> delt: Set the folder /usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntustudio, then you will be able to select any wp in there
[21:12] <zequence> when you close desktop settings, and open again, you will see the same wp selection
[21:12] <delt> nope... the list is still empty
[21:12] <delt> (no blue square this time)
[21:13] <zequence> delt: Sure you got the right path? /usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntustudio
[21:13] <zequence> delt: Sure you got the right path? /usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntustudio/
[21:14] <delt> yep, typed it in the gtk selector window
[21:14] <delt> (with tab completion)
[21:14] <delt> :)
[21:14] <delt> let's try clicking my way to it
[21:15] <delt> nope.. blue square
[21:15] <zequence> delt: Well, if I change wp to something in another folder, that folder will be default next time
[21:15] <delt> anyway, if it works for you then it will probably work fine on another laptop
[21:18] <delt> in other news... how do i use a magnet link from firefox to a program (rtorrent) that's running on another machine?
[21:19] <zequence> delt: That would not be typically Ubuntu Studio specific, but I guess you copy the magnet link to your clipboard
[21:19] <zequence> or, you specify a path to a program that is launchpable from the system you are on
[21:30] <delt> hahaha "ubuntu is an ancient african word translating to: cannot configure debian"
[21:32] <zequence> good one
[21:33] <zequence> sleepy time
[21:33] <delt> where from?
[21:33] <delt> <--- montreal, canada