| weather_forecast | :) | 00:13 |
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| weather_forecast | whats the best safest way to mass rename files is following way - all files containing text 'sample' are having this part of their name renamed to 'samk' | 00:14 |
| Macer | hello. i was just a bit curious. i have a box with 4x3TB drives and wanted to start using btrfs or zfs .. is btrfs stable enough nowadays to use it in a similar fashion to raidz? | 02:37 |
| cridenour | So I tried to reinstall util-linux and now get a "mount: not found" - I managed to get a USB version into rescue mode for the system. What's the best way to fix this? | 04:04 |
| Macer | hm. i'm getting a blanked out screen when ubuntu server 14.04 boots | 04:40 |
| dw1 | video driver issue ? | 04:49 |
| dw1 | using a GUI on it ? | 04:49 |
| Macer | no | 04:49 |
| Macer | rather fresh install .. seemed to get past the fb part.. was starting up services and then just went blank | 04:49 |
| Macer | does ubuntu-server install allow you to configure a raid5 btrfs from the install? | 04:50 |
| Macer | maybe i'll just try to install directly to the hdds instead of using a thumb drive to boot it | 04:50 |
| Macer | i know i didn't see the option earlier when i tried to install it to a thumb drive but i doubt it would show it considering there was only the thumb drive to install to | 04:51 |
| dw1 | might wanna check the logs | 04:51 |
| Macer | it seems more like a crash than a fb issue | 04:52 |
| Macer | i can't check the logs because i can't ssh to the box and the console is blanked | 04:52 |
| dw1 | recovery mode or liveusb + mount ? | 04:52 |
| Macer | i'm actually going to try to run it from a liveusb in a minute | 04:53 |
| Macer | to see where it went wrong | 04:53 |
| dw1 | yea you can check logs from there | 04:53 |
| Macer | it could be because i installed using a laptop then moved it to another pc to try to boot.. but i don't see why that should be an issue | 04:54 |
| dw1 | :) | 04:54 |
| Macer | and it seems that btrfs installed as root doesn't do it cleanly | 04:54 |
| Macer | you need an ext(2/3/4) partition | 04:54 |
| Macer | which is why i was trying to boot from a thumb drive | 04:54 |
| dw1 | may be beyond the scope of official support :p | 04:54 |
| Macer | booting from a thumb drive and using btrfs? | 04:55 |
| dw1 | btrfs is 'experimental' | 04:55 |
| Macer | oh | 04:55 |
| Macer | is zfs on the same boat? | 04:55 |
| dw1 | according to wikipedia at least | 04:55 |
| dw1 | dont know | 04:55 |
| Macer | i thought btrfs was supposed to be stable as of late | 04:56 |
| dw1 | im sure people will help anyway, just sayin' you might take some flak for it :p | 04:56 |
| Macer | but first let me try to boot this install thumb drive heh | 04:56 |
| Macer | well.. these things don't get fixed until someone uses them ;) | 04:56 |
| Macer | the random blanking/crashing is problematic | 04:57 |
| Macer | heh | 04:57 |
| dw1 | yes | 05:00 |
| Macer | problem reading data from the cdrom? | 05:00 |
| Macer | wth? :) | 05:00 |
| Macer | not sure what happened there. i just did a straight dd from the iso | 05:01 |
| Macer | to a thumb drive | 05:01 |
| xzavier | hello everyone , | 05:52 |
| xzavier | i got a problem, my ubuntu 14.04 can not save the brightness setting. | 05:52 |
| xzavier | when i reboot computer, the brightness back to 100%, does anyone has this problem? | 05:53 |
| dw1 | xzavier: hrm, lots on google http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+not+saving+brightness -- sorry, no personal exp | 06:10 |
| xzavier | i just searching that with google, | 06:10 |
| xzavier | thanks | 06:10 |
| dw1 | i expect you will win soon. :) | 06:10 |
| dw1 | hehe | 06:10 |
| xzavier | haha | 06:11 |
| h3r1 | hello there... i have a strange issue with samba shared folders... some folders are always accessible while otheres are only accessible (visible) after accessing the server via ssh... could anybody help me? | 09:56 |
| ranno | i believe my ubuntu server got hacked a few hours ago | 10:06 |
| ranno | i got an email from digitalocean. : We've had to unfortunately reboot your Droplet graafik due to an issue on the underlying physical node where the Droplet runs. | 10:07 |
| ranno | i managed to login via digitalocean online console. found out that all connections were dropped from ssh, http, https etc | 10:08 |
| ranno | i investigated the bash history, where i saw some weird commands that didnt ring a bell to me | 10:09 |
| ranno | http://i.imgur.com/CHJ9MIw.png | 10:09 |
| ranno | starting from iptables save | 10:09 |
| ranno | seems that someone has hacked into the server and turned off the prots | 10:10 |
| ranno | ports *. cpu load is nearly 100%. two-three processes that take the most memory are labelled "sh" | 10:10 |
| dw1 | if so then they had root access which means the only way to clear them out is re-image | 10:10 |
| ranno | they change their pid's every few seconds | 10:10 |
| ranno | yes, i thought about re-imaging the system and it is my next step | 10:11 |
| ranno | BUT | 10:11 |
| ranno | i need to get a database dump before | 10:11 |
| dw1 | :( | 10:11 |
| ranno | now the interesting part starts | 10:11 |
| ranno | nearly every command i type in fails | 10:11 |
| dw1 | should do that daily ideally if not too big | 10:11 |
| dw1 | hmm | 10:12 |
| ranno | yes, from now on i will do it :D | 10:12 |
| ranno | mysqldump would help me out BUT http://i.imgur.com/T12cBjK.png | 10:12 |
| dw1 | well if youre on a console connection then i would shut dwn the networking asap | 10:12 |
| dw1 | so the guy cant do stuff anmore | 10:12 |
| ranno | i believe it is used for bitcoin mining | 10:13 |
| dw1 | and find and kill the processes | 10:14 |
| dw1 | whatever they are | 10:14 |
| ranno | the process id changes every few seconds | 10:14 |
| dasjoe | That's unusual for mining | 10:14 |
| ranno | here is the output of top | 10:15 |
| ranno | http://i.imgur.com/Sp6bJ6W.png | 10:15 |
| dasjoe | Paste a "ps aux", like "ps aux | pastebinit" or manually on a pastebin | 10:15 |
| dw1 | you can get the parent process id | 10:16 |
| dw1 | ps -f | 10:17 |
| dw1 | umm | 10:17 |
| dw1 | ps -ef | 10:17 |
| dw1 | anyway you should shut off networking until you want to send off your backup | 10:18 |
| ranno | yeah im trying to get the results to you. but the online-console does not have mouse interactivity and the keyboard layout is really weird. i can not find the | character. copy/paste does not work also | 10:19 |
| dw1 | just in case the boogeyman is watching you and decides to destroy everything | 10:19 |
| h3r1 | hello there... i have a strange issue with samba shared folders... some folders are always accessible while otheres are only accessible (visible) after accessing the server via ssh... could anybody help me? | 10:19 |
| ranno | how to turn off the networking the right way _ | 10:19 |
| dw1 | ifdown <iface> | 10:19 |
| ranno | done | 10:20 |
| dw1 | now do you dumps and zips and stuff | 10:20 |
| dw1 | tar czfp to maintain permissions | 10:20 |
| ranno | i only need the mysql database backup | 10:21 |
| ranno | but yeah, i can not execute nearly anything | 10:21 |
| ranno | i try to get the ps aux response to you | 10:21 |
| dw1 | h3r1: dont know bout that | 10:22 |
| dw1 | ranno: iptables -F will flush the firewall | 10:22 |
| ranno | ps aux output | 10:23 |
| ranno | http://i.imgur.com/vJec9AY.png | 10:23 |
| dw1 | ranno: ps -ef will show PPID = parent process | 10:23 |
| ranno | ok ps -ef output | 10:24 |
| ranno | http://i.imgur.com/o4CNqPN.png | 10:24 |
| dw1 | ranno: if you do iptables -F the rules he added to /etc/iptables/rules.v4 wont be re-run until reboot ..... | 10:24 |
| ranno | http://i.imgur.com/MFheFCz.png | 10:25 |
| dw1 | ranno: youre just looking for the parent of the processes using 100% cpu if you care to kill them | 10:25 |
| dw1 | ranno: otherwise just ignore them get your dump, offload it and reimage | 10:25 |
| ranno | i will probably save the current image for later investigation | 10:26 |
| ranno | but the main problem is that i can not make the dump | 10:26 |
| dw1 | ranno: easy answer is they brute forced your root pw | 10:26 |
| ranno | executables do not work | 10:26 |
| dw1 | ranno: or they stole your private key from home comp | 10:26 |
| dw1 | hmm | 10:26 |
| ranno | this is what i get when i try to execute something | 10:27 |
| ranno | http://i.imgur.com/T12cBjK.png | 10:27 |
| dw1 | what if you just type bash | 10:27 |
| ranno | nothing happens | 10:28 |
| dw1 | prob opened a new shell | 10:28 |
| dw1 | might seem like nothing happened :) | 10:28 |
| dasjoe | What makes you believe you got hacked, anyway? DigitalOcean told you they had to reboot your system | 10:28 |
| ranno | bash_history commands that i do not recall | 10:29 |
| dw1 | what about things like echo does that run | 10:29 |
| ranno | echo displays a new line | 10:29 |
| ranno | yeah | 10:29 |
| ranno | echo works | 10:29 |
| dw1 | what about mysql | 10:30 |
| ranno | bash: /usr/bin/mysql: cannot execute binary file | 10:30 |
| dw1 | does it still have executable flags | 10:30 |
| dw1 | ls -al /usr/bin/mysqldump | 10:31 |
| dasjoe | Also, they're probably using a US layout, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_United_Kingdom.svg for an approximate mapping to a ISO layout | 10:31 |
| ranno | yeah i even chmodded 777 | 10:31 |
| dw1 | well | 10:32 |
| dw1 | you can always copy the mysql files directly | 10:32 |
| dw1 | if they havent been destroyed | 10:32 |
| dw1 | look in /var/lib/mysql/databasename | 10:32 |
| dw1 | MyISAM tables? | 10:33 |
| dw1 | im an innodb noob :p | 10:33 |
| ranno | yeah , the files still exist | 10:33 |
| dw1 | tar work? | 10:34 |
| ranno | seems so | 10:34 |
| dw1 | well then just tar up your /var/lib/mysql/* | 10:34 |
| ranno | i have to admit i have never really understood the tar flags | 10:35 |
| dw1 | may be able to skip some things.. like ib* .. not 100% certain | 10:35 |
| dw1 | tar czfp /path/to/archive.tgz /var/lib/mysql | 10:35 |
| dw1 | -c create -z gzip -f filename -p keep permissions | 10:35 |
| dw1 | also note your mysql version .. | 10:36 |
| dw1 | if you can | 10:36 |
| dw1 | dpkg -l | grep mysql | 10:37 |
| dasjoe | I seriously doubt you got hacked, ranno. You probably installed some package for the wrong architecture, thus a script can't execute a binary and retries, this are the sh processes which consume 100% cpu | 10:37 |
| ranno | i havent logged in for a week or so | 10:38 |
| ranno | but tbh, i now also doubt the hacking | 10:38 |
| dasjoe | Yeah, DigitalOcean told you they rebooted the system | 10:38 |
| dw1 | maybe they ran teh iptables stuff | 10:38 |
| ranno | i get errors like \read-only file system | 10:38 |
| ranno | when trying to tar | 10:38 |
| dw1 | wtf mode did they reboot into :) | 10:39 |
| dw1 | http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write | 10:39 |
| ranno | http://i.imgur.com/uWtvK0G.png | 10:40 |
| dw1 | is there anything malicious in /etc/iptables/rules.v4 ? | 10:41 |
| dw1 | 'cause thats all the bash history says was modified | 10:42 |
| dw1 | not too nefarious really | 10:42 |
| bekks | ranno: remount the filesystem read-write. | 10:42 |
| dw1 | not like they wrote echo "haha you got owned" > /i-am-the-best | 10:43 |
| ranno | iptables rules | 10:43 |
| ranno | http://i.imgur.com/9EdQLfW.png | 10:43 |
| dw1 | hehe | 10:43 |
| dw1 | yea that looks not so bad | 10:43 |
| bekks | quite wrong actually. | 10:44 |
| bekks | There are no ports above 65535 :) | 10:44 |
| dw1 | still not obviously malicious | 10:44 |
| bekks | Indeed. | 10:45 |
| dw1 | tell them they rebooted wrong and to fix it :p | 10:45 |
| bekks | I second that. | 10:45 |
| ranno | when trying mount -o remount / | 10:45 |
| h3r1 | i cannot access some samba sheres until i connect to the server via ssh. i want the samba share folders to be alway visible, without ssh connection... can somebody help me out? | 10:45 |
| bekks | ranno: Thats not the correct command. | 10:46 |
| ranno | remount,rw ? | 10:49 |
| bekks | ranno: Read the link given. | 10:49 |
| dw1 | a proper boot should be rw.. dont know why it booted ro | 10:51 |
| dw1 | but that likely explains all the stuff like no ssh | 10:51 |
| ranno | after reboot now | 10:52 |
| ranno | it said that there is something to fix | 10:52 |
| ranno | pressed F | 10:52 |
| dw1 | drive failing? :/ | 10:52 |
| ranno | and some indodes had something of value 2 that had to be 1 | 10:52 |
| bekks | dw1: It perfectly does. No PID file can be written on a ro fs. So almost every daemon, including sshd, fails to start. | 10:52 |
| h3r1 | please, does anybody have at least a hint for me? | 10:54 |
| dw1 | h3r1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/274138/samba-only-works-if-logged-in-over-ssh ? | 10:57 |
| dw1 | google ftw? :) | 10:58 |
| ranno | i try to umount as shown in the article | 10:59 |
| ranno | but i get "device is busy | 10:59 |
| dw1 | ranno: if it mounts properly on boot shouldnt need to do that..... | 10:59 |
| dw1 | ranno: if it doesnt mount properly on boot.. tell your provider they broke it, if they're mildly responsive, and especially if its managed | 11:00 |
| bekks | ranno: you cannot umount / | 11:00 |
| dw1 | ranno: report the inode thing too | 11:00 |
| ranno | so okay the partition identifier is /dev/vda | 11:01 |
| ranno | what should the mountpoint be _ | 11:01 |
| h3r1 | dw1 thanks for the link... indeed, my share is an encrypted one... does it mean, that i have to be connected via ssh always that i want to access this share? how can i automatically mount it via ssh? | 11:01 |
| bekks | ranno: look at your /etc/fstab | 11:01 |
| bekks | h3r1: Yes, it means you need to connect using ssh prior using samba. | 11:01 |
| h3r1 | bekks thank you | 11:02 |
| dw1 | h3r1: or move it out of the encrypted folder | 11:02 |
| h3r1 | dw1 is it convenient at all to hacve my home-folder encrypted on the server? i did it for security reasons... | 11:04 |
| dw1 | h3r1: maybe you can hack it http://google.com/search?q=automatically+mount+encrypted+samba+share | 11:04 |
| lak-kal | hi, some soft for nikon D3200 to control from computer? | 11:04 |
| dw1 | h3r1: i encrypt at home and on laptop mostly to prevent physical access | 11:05 |
| bekks | lak-kal: Define "control" a bit further please. | 11:05 |
| dw1 | h3r1: you may not be able to protect against a snooping provider.. not sure | 11:05 |
| dw1 | h3r1: at least not while youre logged in | 11:06 |
| dw1 | h3r1: so it may or may not be beneficial | 11:06 |
| h3r1 | dw1 so encryption only helps in case of phisical access? | 11:06 |
| bekks | h3r1: Actually yes. | 11:06 |
| lak-kal | bekks: control = manage, | 11:07 |
| ranno | etc/fstab shows two mount points> /proc and / | 11:07 |
| bekks | ranno: And? | 11:07 |
| ranno | first has a file system proc and the second has UUID=3107/// | 11:07 |
| bekks | ranno: So look at the UUIDs your system: sudo blkid | 11:07 |
| bekks | lak-kal: I'd say "digikam", but it more for managing your photos. | 11:08 |
| dw1 | h3r1: id say its unlikely your provider will snoop or have your server stolen.. :) | 11:08 |
| dw1 | h3r1: but if someone brute forces some account or something i guess encryption could be good | 11:08 |
| dw1 | h3r1: dont know :) | 11:09 |
| ranno | bekks: okay i get /dev/vda and LABEL and UUID values | 11:09 |
| ranno | bekks: i still dont get where do i get the mount point value | 11:09 |
| dw1 | h3r1: assuming you have a remote server btw | 11:09 |
| dw1 | h3r1: in a standard secure facility :) | 11:09 |
| bekks | ranno: the mount point is / | 11:09 |
| bekks | ranno: Just call your ISP to fix that issue. They broke it, they have to repair ir. | 11:10 |
| lak-kal | take pictures from computer : http://www.lmscope.com/produkt22/Nikon_Camera_Control_Pro_2_es.shtml | 11:10 |
| bekks | *it | 11:10 |
| lak-kal | bekks: take pictures from computer : http://www.lmscope.com/produkt22/Nikon_Camera_Control_Pro_2_es.shtml | 11:12 |
| ranno | ok thats it | 11:13 |
| ranno | opened a digitalocean ticket | 11:13 |
| h3r1 | dw1, thank you for your advice | 11:13 |
| ranno | actually i now remember this is already the second time when i have problems with DO disks. | 11:14 |
| ranno | thank you for helping me | 11:14 |
| Macer | wow. i have no idea what is going on here | 13:19 |
| Macer | ubuntu just crashes when i try to boot it to install | 13:19 |
| Macer | weirdest thing ever | 13:20 |
| cfhowlett | !md5sum|Macer verify your ISO , verify the boot media | 13:20 |
| ubottu | Macer verify your ISO , verify the boot media: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 13:20 |
| Macer | ubottu: it isn't the media | 13:20 |
| ubottu | Macer: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 13:20 |
| Macer | cfhowlett: i used the same one to install to another SD using a laptop | 13:20 |
| Macer | worked fine... would boot | 13:20 |
| zorgshanker | Macer: do you have multiple monitors plugged in by any chance? | 13:21 |
| Macer | no. just one. | 13:21 |
| Macer | it completely crashes the system tho. the usb turns off.. strangest thing ever heh | 13:21 |
| cfhowlett | Macer so ... you did NOT take the 90 seconds required to verify the integrity of your the ISO. right. | 13:21 |
| Macer | cfhowlett: no.. but the integrity should be proven by the fact i just used the same exact SD to install it onto another system? | 13:22 |
| Macer | the install media is fine | 13:22 |
| cfhowlett | Macer garbage in/garbage out | 13:22 |
| zorgshanker | Do it to rule it out | 13:22 |
| Macer | 01545fa976c8367b4f0d59169ac4866c *ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso | 13:25 |
| Macer | it matches | 13:25 |
| Macer | it tries to boot.. reaches a certain point... then just crashes the entire system | 13:26 |
| Macer | and i can't even check the logs on it | 13:26 |
| Macer | either way tho. a fresh install simply crashing "just because" ... :/ | 13:27 |
| Macer | maybe an issue with the amd apu stuff? | 13:31 |
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| Macer | hm. let me try debian. | 13:34 |
| Macer | wow it's really the weirdest thing.. debian boots. ubuntu boots but reaches a certain point and crashes the whole box | 14:51 |
| Macer | yeah i'm at a loss. amazing. | 15:00 |
| Macer | there seems to be some awkward module that is loading that is making it crash. when going into recovery mode it boots fine | 15:06 |
| Macer | :/ | 15:06 |
| Macer | wth | 15:06 |
| Macer | it just got to a login.. then the screen goes blank... and it crashes | 15:06 |
| Macer | ah.. ok. well.. nomodeset seems to have fixed the not booting problem :) | 15:21 |
| Macer | so what is the best way to do a swap when you are booting from an sd and want to create a raid5 btrfs across 4 disks? | 16:44 |
| Macer | do i just partition a couple GB per disk and add all the swap partitions to fstab? | 16:44 |
| Macer | then make the remainder btrfs partitions and create the raid5 btrfs? | 16:44 |
| h3r1 | hello there... i made a reinstall of ubuntuon my laptop... i have an encrypted home folder... i used to share the desktop folder via samba without problems. now after the reinstall it says it cannot mount it... any idea how i can fix this? | 17:08 |
| Macer | nice. set up the swap space and zfs on the 4x3TB drives | 18:16 |
| Macer | hopefully it survives this reboot | 18:16 |
| cloudman | Hi is Ubuntu server secure?? | 18:25 |
| cloudman | What I mean is every core program vetted? | 18:26 |
| cloudman | Can we trust the very core of Ubuntu?? | 18:26 |
| cloudman | Who checks these things?? | 18:26 |
| cloudman | Who vefifies that Ubuntu is secure??? | 18:27 |
| cloudman | Verifies sorry. | 18:28 |
| cloudman | I think security is to be a big thing and if any problems should be brought before the so called law big time | 18:30 |
| cloudman | who verifies all the software withing ubuntu??? | 18:30 |
| cloudman | within | 18:30 |
| cloudman | Is Ubuntu secure?? If so who says so?? | 18:31 |
| bekks | cloudman: Isnt it? Who says so? | 18:32 |
| cloudman | whatever dude | 18:32 |
| cloudman | who verifies ubuntu as secure software | 18:32 |
| cloudman | or any other distro | 18:32 |
| cloudman | I run bunt 12.04 | 18:33 |
| cloudman | And I mean verify so that you can sue them later | 18:33 |
| cloudman | if not so | 18:34 |
| shauno | who does that for any OS? | 18:34 |
| cloudman | So, the main question is, is Ubuntu secure software and who says so | 18:34 |
| cloudman | Officially | 18:34 |
| cloudman | So does Ubunt give no promise of its core security??? | 18:36 |
| cloudman | Ubuntu sry | 18:36 |
| Macer | cloudman: the nsa does | 18:37 |
| bekks | And the DoD, and the US Army, and and and. | 18:37 |
| bekks | Oh, and the NATO as well. | 18:37 |
| cloudman | Macer: dont make light dude on a important issue | 18:37 |
| Macer | yeah. they verify windows and osx as well | 18:37 |
| cloudman | Oh so we just piss it off | 18:37 |
| Macer | cloudman: depends on what you mean by "secure" | 18:37 |
| Macer | i don't think there is some govt agency that verifies that an OS is secure | 18:38 |
| cloudman | Macer: all core software, who verifies it, simple question | 18:38 |
| shauno | I'm not aware of anyone who does this for any platform. it's a fairly unrealistic expectation | 18:38 |
| dasjoe | It's open source, feel free to verify it | 18:38 |
| Macer | i an only assume there is some sort of private org within ubuntu that does it... i mean other than that it's pretty much "use our free stuff at your own risk" | 18:39 |
| cloudman | dasjoe: so they jus add it without looking at the code? | 18:39 |
| Macer | but then again who verifies if windows is secure as well? | 18:39 |
| cloudman | Macer: just talking about Ubuntu here dude | 18:39 |
| jrwren | there are agencies who will take $$$ and verify an OS as FIPS compliant | 18:39 |
| jrwren | of course, FIPS is not very secure at all. | 18:39 |
| cloudman | geez guys just abswer the question | 18:40 |
| Macer | cloudman: nobody. | 18:40 |
| cloudman | answer sorry | 18:40 |
| jrwren | I do. i verify it secure. | 18:40 |
| cloudman | worked up as it is | 18:40 |
| jrwren | see. I looked at it, and I verified it. | 18:40 |
| Macer | like i said. i'm sure there are some internal testers... | 18:40 |
| cloudman | jrwren: ;) lol | 18:40 |
| Macer | all it takes is one snowdenesque dev to make everything come off the rails | 18:41 |
| cloudman | Macer: sure but who official and accountable?? | 18:41 |
| jrwren | who verifies ANY os as far as your question goes. Windows or Mac or Android or Other? | 18:41 |
| Macer | cloudman: nobody | 18:41 |
| cloudman | GEEZ | 18:41 |
| Macer | any OS is use at your own risk. i'd assume even more so for something that is free and opensource | 18:41 |
| jrwren | ^^^ | 18:41 |
| Macer | the faith based operating systems | 18:41 |
| cloudman | Macer: is that a window for big shit | 18:42 |
| jrwren | all are faith based, aren't they? | 18:42 |
| dasjoe | cloudman: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/governance | 18:42 |
| Macer | freebsd probably has CS students checking code | 18:42 |
| cloudman | jrwren: quiet dude | 18:42 |
| jrwren | Also, the original Q can only be answered with more questions. Secure from what? | 18:42 |
| shauno | there are no other questions. he's already stated "And I mean verify so that you can sue them later". which means nobody. | 18:43 |
| cloudman | Geez I think there are a lot of sysadmins here | 18:43 |
| Macer | cloudman: i'd guess that ubuntu is secure based on the fact that it has so many users that a flaw would be quickly found and fixed | 18:43 |
| Macer | obviously things get through like that little openssl debacle | 18:43 |
| cloudman | yeah like heart beed | 18:43 |
| cloudman | bleed | 18:43 |
| bekks | It was found and fixed within three hours. | 18:43 |
| jrwren | and that isn't open in the default ubuntu install. | 18:43 |
| bekks | What do you expect. Dude. Geez. | 18:43 |
| cloudman | but ran for 2 years | 18:43 |
| Macer | but anyways.. i finally finished setting up ubuntu-server and the zfs so i'm happy heh | 18:43 |
| Macer | good stuff | 18:44 |
| Macer | just need to set up samba in a bit and i'm done | 18:44 |
| jrwren | desktop OR server, heartbleed wasn't there OOTB, someone had to install an https server | 18:44 |
| Macer | oh.. and virtualbox i guess | 18:44 |
| cloudman | geez guys dont be so niave | 18:44 |
| bekks | cloudman: geez guy. dont make a drama out of nothing. | 18:44 |
| * Macer puts on his tin foil hat | 18:44 | |
| jrwren | cloudman: what do you need? | 18:45 |
| cloudman | sure, greatr and helpful comment | 18:45 |
| Macer | you can always use option b... write your own OS :D | 18:45 |
| Macer | then you KNOW it's perfectly secure | 18:45 |
| bekks | cloudman: like all your rants before. | 18:45 |
| cloudman | so protective man | 18:45 |
| cloudman | bekks what rants?? | 18:45 |
| Macer | and even then someone will find an exploit heh | 18:45 |
| jrwren | openbsd is great. I like a lot of what they do. I still use ubuntu. | 18:45 |
| bekks | cloudman: read your own backlog. | 18:45 |
| dasjoe | <°)))o>< | 18:45 |
| cloudman | yawn as they gang up | 18:45 |
| jrwren | cloudman: what do you need? | 18:45 |
| cloudman | lol | 18:45 |
| bekks | *plonk* | 18:45 |
| cloudman | dick | 18:45 |
| cloudman | whats up | 18:46 |
| dasjoe | You? Yes | 18:46 |
| cloudman | just asked a basic question | 18:46 |
| shauno | "nobody" is a pretty basic answer. so why drag it out? | 18:46 |
| cloudman | and you all came back and said basically that Ubuntu is not monitored for security lol | 18:46 |
| jrwren | that is what you did. that is not what was replied. | 18:47 |
| shauno | you've said you're looking for someone to accept legal liability. no such party exists. | 18:47 |
| jrwren | monitoring for security is different than a formal verification. | 18:47 |
| jrwren | a quick duck duck go gives me this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam | 18:47 |
| cloudman | So Ubuntu does not take any security measures at all or even tries?? | 18:47 |
| jrwren | cloudman: there is a security team. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam | 18:47 |
| cloudman | Tried they were out to lunch | 18:48 |
| jrwren | tried what? What do you need? | 18:48 |
| cloudman | besides just asking questions here | 18:48 |
| cloudman | typical irc jump on someone | 18:48 |
| cloudman | jrwren: lol duck duck, you have security issues? | 18:51 |
| jrwren | not right now. | 18:52 |
| jrwren | everyone has security issues at one time or another. | 18:52 |
| cloudman | duck duck wont let me access if I have peerblock running | 18:52 |
| cloudman | so much for not tracking | 18:52 |
| jrwren | i'm not familiar with peerblock | 18:52 |
| cloudman | obviously | 18:52 |
| jrwren | so you need to access duckduckgo while peerblock is running? | 18:53 |
| cloudman | so much for duck duck bull shit | 18:53 |
| IdleOne | Please keep the language clean | 18:54 |
| cloudman | thay dont track you, why they want to know my IP?? | 18:54 |
| cloudman | IdleOne: sry | 18:54 |
| jrwren | who? duckduckgo? | 18:54 |
| cloudman | jrwren: your quite a person | 19:01 |
| cloudman | very prevocative | 19:02 |
| jrwren | That was not my intention. I only want to help. | 19:06 |
| cloudman | no, you just wanted to troll | 19:06 |
| jrwren | no. | 19:07 |
| cloudman | on a subject you no nothing about | 19:07 |
| cloudman | Tell me | 19:07 |
| IdleOne | Seems to me you are the one trolling. I suggest you change your tone. | 19:08 |
| cloudman | how do you secure your Ubuntu servers?? | 19:08 |
| cloudman | IdleOne: not trolling here, came with some serious questions, all I got was hostility | 19:09 |
| cloudman | and that jrwren who is a troll | 19:10 |
| jrwren | cloudman: i'm sorry. | 19:16 |
| cloudman | np | 19:16 |
| cloudman | sorry here as well, only asked some questions | 19:17 |
| cloudman | irc is like that I guess, gets heated very quicly | 19:20 |
| cloudman | too quicly at times | 19:21 |
| cloudman | quickly | 19:21 |
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| lordievader | Good evening. | 19:58 |
| xeno_ | Just tried to install fvwm-crystal on ubuntu-server, then rebooted, and still got no window manager. | 21:42 |
| xeno_ | So now I have a fully installed gnome shell and it just comes up a gray screen with no menus. | 22:10 |
| fun | hey folks | 22:34 |
| fun | is it relatively tricky to mass rename parts of files names? | 22:35 |
| fun | I got soft to do it in win via regex but maybe in Linux its also easy? | 22:35 |
| Patrickdk | rename | 22:41 |
| Patrickdk | I know, it's kindof magical | 22:41 |
| Patrickdk | but it does do what it's name suggests | 22:41 |
| fun | well i want to rename part of file names | 22:42 |
| Patrickdk | so? | 22:42 |
| Patrickdk | are you telling me rename doesn't support that? | 22:42 |
| Patrickdk | cause I'm pretty sure I use it daily for that purpose | 22:43 |
| fun | I dont know how to do it, any ideas? | 22:43 |
| * Patrickdk wonders off to look for a better rename tool :( | 22:44 | |
| Patrickdk | use rename? | 22:44 |
| fun | and syntaks? | 22:44 |
| fun | :D | 22:44 |
| Patrickdk | rename - renames files based on the perl expression passed to it | 22:45 |
| Patrickdk | works using standard pcre | 22:45 |
| Patrickdk | I dunno anything more powerful than that | 22:45 |
| fun | hmm I am googling syntaks | 22:45 |
| fun | yet to find | 22:46 |
| Patrickdk | no idea what a syntaks is | 22:46 |
| Patrickdk | you don't have man installed? | 22:46 |
| fun | man is too long | 22:46 |
| fun | I use google usually to find command I need | 22:46 |
| xeno_ | I still don't have my complete desktop environment. Anyone have a suggestion? I just installed ubuntu-desktop, and there is no menu bar. Nothing but a dropdown. | 22:56 |
| xeno_ | There must be a step to make this work. Obviously nobody wants it to be in documentation, because I cannot find it on google. | 23:00 |
| fun | hey xeno | 23:03 |
| fun | what do u want to do? | 23:03 |
| xeno_ | I just have an ubuntu server install, and I want to have a desktop that works, that has basic tools. It doesn't need to have all the bells and whistles, just a functioning desktop, with basic stuff. | 23:09 |
| xeno_ | Like a search for apps. | 23:09 |
| xeno_ | So I tried fvwm, and it was completely functionless. Not even a window manager. I tried gnome shell, and all I got was a gray screen with no function | 23:10 |
| xeno_ | Then I tried ubuntu-desktop, and I have a right click dropdown, but no other function. | 23:11 |
| xeno_ | It says installing ubuntu-desktop gives you everything. Well, it doesn't. | 23:11 |
| xeno_ | Not only does it not work, but it takes forever not to work. | 23:11 |
| xeno_ | And the instruction I see has no other statement about giving you a fully functional desktop. | 23:12 |
| fun | ok | 23:15 |
| fun | I can help u | 23:15 |
| fun | but when u install desktop server gets slower | 23:15 |
| fun | which ubuntu u use? | 23:15 |
| fun | version | 23:15 |
| xeno_ | I just need the latest ubuntu server with a desktop. I am going to do development work on it using virtualbox. | 23:20 |
| xeno_ | It doesn't need to be fast. It just needs to be a good internal tools development box. | 23:21 |
| fun | sudo apt-get install update-manager-core | 23:22 |
| fun | do-release-upgrade | 23:22 |
| fun | that goes to latest 14.04 | 23:22 |
| xeno_ | I just wish I'd installed debian server, which comes with what I need. But my pin drive broken and I'm stuck with this now. | 23:22 |
| fun | then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 23:23 |
| fun | simple :D | 23:23 |
| xeno_ | And yes, I know I should have started with desktop, but again, my usb drive broke, and I need to get this done. | 23:26 |
| xeno_ | I did do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, and it didn't work the first time. | 23:27 |
| xeno_ | I went back and forth trying things, and it kindof works now. | 23:27 |
| xeno_ | Ok. I'll try the update--* sequence you describe. Thank you. | 23:28 |
| fun | xeno :) | 23:50 |
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