| jrwren | ugh... was just pointed out that this (C) API thing is a reason why maybe projects didn't copy amazon AWS api. | 00:48 |
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| rick_h_ | :/ | 00:48 |
| rick_h_ | oh man, missed it by one number https://pastebin.canonical.com/109999/ | 00:54 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/WR7tGb - OpenID transaction in progress | 00:55 |
| dzho | > need to apologize to Microsoft. | 12:03 |
| dzho | um, no. | 12:03 |
| dzho | that one company has done something evil doesn't negate another company having done something evil. | 12:03 |
| dzho | the best you can take away from this is that companies are a land of contrasts. | 12:04 |
| dzho | mutable, amoral amalgamations of personalities and agendas that make for fickle "friends" | 12:05 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 14:14 |
| cmaloney | dzho: I mean regarding Mono and all of the nasty thing the community said were possible | 14:15 |
| cmaloney | None of which came to pass outside of Oracle. | 14:15 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 14:18 |
| dzho | cmaloney: they're still possible | 14:21 |
| cmaloney | True, it is | 14:22 |
| dzho | oh, the other thing about companies: potentially immortal | 14:23 |
| cmaloney | But I find it still ironic that Java got a small pass from the community while Microsoft was accused of all sorts of treachery | 14:23 |
| dzho | yes, giving Java a pass was a mistake | 14:23 |
| cmaloney | yet Java is demonstrating that same treachery. | 14:23 |
| dzho | and I know hardcore free software types who, if anyone whines about this, would definitely be all "I'll told you so" | 14:23 |
| cmaloney | dzho: Agreed. The community should have pressed harder on Sun / Oracle to get the language more open | 14:24 |
| cmaloney | Same here. Identi.ca is full of them. :) | 14:24 |
| dzho | even back in the day, they were being jerks about stuff. cf, the licensing of ZFS | 14:24 |
| dzho | this is what bugs me now about the systemd controversy. | 14:25 |
| dzho | I see Poettering as something of a de Icaza, nattering on about how people are just stuck in their ways and just hate progress and we have to compete and blah blah blah | 14:26 |
| dzho | I mean, it's 20 years after the Unix Wars, we've seen this stuff play out several times before already. | 14:30 |
| cmaloney | Haven't followed systemd enough to form an opinion | 14:32 |
| dzho | cmaloney: yeah, but the freedesktop stuff is really starting to pervade the distros more generally, so . . . you're soaking in it, at any rate | 14:33 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I know it's going to affect me at some point | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | Just haven't taken the time to dig deeper. | 14:35 |
| dzho | I'm trying to acclimatize myself. I get irked when I have to go digging into some weird settings file somewhere outside my home dir, but recently discovered "udisks" for managing USB hard drives. | 14:37 |
| dzho | cmaloney: so, usually, it's less me actively seeking it out and more me having to find out how to do what I want with the way things are now. | 14:41 |
| * dzho should catch up on identi.ca a little bit | 14:42 | |
| cmaloney | https://identi.ca/snapl | 14:42 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/uGzkZe - Craig Maloney - Identi.ca | 14:42 |
| cmaloney | Still there. Still posting. :) | 14:42 |
| dzho | is there some way to see a general timeline? | 14:47 |
| dzho | if I go to identi.ca I just get the insipid pump.io splash page | 14:48 |
| gamerchick02 | morning | 14:48 |
| dzho | howdy | 14:49 |
| gamerchick02 | cmaloney, i can't seem to follow you with my micro.fragdev account | 14:50 |
| gamerchick02 | *le sad* | 14:50 |
| gamerchick02 | pumpio is a dorkio | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | dzho: There really isn't a general timeline unfortunately | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | they made it completely decentralized. | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | Which is a bit of a pain in the ass. | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | gamerchick02: What's your URL? | 14:51 |
| gamerchick02 | http://micro.fragdev.com/gamerchick02 | 14:51 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/GJogOL - Amy H. (gamerchick02) - Micro.Fragdev.com | 14:51 |
| gamerchick02 | whoa | 14:51 |
| gamerchick02 | bookiebot? didn't know there was a bot in here! | 14:51 |
| cmaloney | gamerchick02: That's a Statusnet instance | 14:51 |
| gamerchick02 | bots everywhere! | 14:51 |
| cmaloney | it's not compatible with pumpio | 14:51 |
| gamerchick02 | well poo | 14:52 |
| gamerchick02 | not fair | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | You should have an identi.ca account. | 14:54 |
| gamerchick02 | i do | 14:57 |
| gamerchick02 | i don't use it | 14:57 |
| gamerchick02 | i can't get it to connect to very many things, lol | 14:57 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I find I don't use it that much either. | 14:57 |
| cmaloney | The one that I use most of all is Google+ | 14:57 |
| gamerchick02 | cool, i'll hang with you there | 14:58 |
| gamerchick02 | :-P | 14:58 |
| jrwren | zomg, I missed stupid conversation this morning. | 15:08 |
| jrwren | potentially immortal? or immoral? | 15:09 |
| cmaloney | Both. :) | 15:12 |
| jrwren | just like humans. companies are no different... cept they are potentially immortal | 15:13 |
| dzho | well, amoral | 15:24 |
| dzho | that is, neither moral nor immoral--it's something that just doesn't apply | 15:25 |
| dzho | oh, duh | 15:25 |
| * dzho didn't see the t | 15:25 | |
| dzho | no, I meant immortal | 15:25 |
| dzho | like, how old is general electric? | 15:26 |
| * dzho looks | 15:26 | |
| dzho | 1889 | 15:26 |
| dzho | and, you can chop them up into pieces and those pieces keep going, like zombies | 15:27 |
| dzho | cf, Merck and Bayer doing a big shuffle of business lines recently | 15:27 |
| jrwren | didn't someone write a piece a while back about how everything can be traced back to east india tea co? | 18:33 |
| cmaloney | BTW: At the MUG meeting I'll be raffling off an ASUS 7750 card. | 22:05 |
| cmaloney | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121655 | 22:05 |
| bookiebot | http://is.gd/84IXrI - ASUS HD7750-DCSL-1GD5 Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Newegg.com | 22:05 |
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