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AK47isMyADDRESShello :)00:00
OerHeksphuh, see man xxd -r(evert)00:00
Bashing-omviper3905gt: Umph, do make it more the difficult, and yeah, slip of the tounge there ifconfig ! .. Managed network where you do have network icon in the task bar at top of screen ? Have you tried to restart the connection from there ?00:00
AK47isMyADDRESShow can i change unity top launcher icon?00:00
viper3905gtno i havent let me try00:00
viper3905gtjust as a note when i restart threw the terminal it dleats wut ever i did in the gui00:01
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viper3905gtok when i mouse over the network icon in the launch bar it sez unmanaged and duzent give me any option to restart00:08
viper3905gtwould it work to just set it up and restart the computer?00:08
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intihello, how do i select a partition as root-point?00:11
Guest43455If I have a flash drive and one of the pins is snapped off from the head, should I resolder it back to recover it?00:12
Guest43455Or use a jumper cable?00:12
Bashing-omviper3905gt: Would not hurt a thing to try restarting the machine. Networking should just work, unless you have changed something.00:14
rwwno, you should get a new flashdrive because they're dirt cheap00:14
viper3905gtok when it boots it sez wating for netwotking device then it gose to say wating for network device for 60 seconts then it boots with out it00:15
viper3905gthow can i get it to boot WITH it00:15
Bashing-ominti: Back up the the intitial scrren, slect the partition where ubunti is to be installed, select 'chenge' in the resulting pop up set '/' in the "use as" field.00:16
Bashing-omviper3905gt: Are you on a router ? .. Last time I saw that situation, I had to power cycle my router.00:16
viper3905gtmodem/router00:17
viper3905gtill try that now00:17
viper3905gtill be back if it dont work lol00:17
Bashing-omviper3905gt: At that time I could not ping my router, ya might try pinging the router just to see.00:18
viper3905gt1nope00:21
viper3905gt1its not loading the NIC00:21
Bashing-omviper3905gt: Do you know your routers IP ?00:21
viper3905gt1yep00:21
sudormrfhey guys, quick question about DEB files.  If I have a program currently installed and I then install a newer version with a DEB file, will the DEB file just overwrite the current version, or is it better to uninstall the current version first and install the DEB file?00:22
Bashing-omviper3905gt: what returns -> ping -c3 192.168.0.1 ( or what ever the router's IP is) ??00:22
viper3905gt1network is unreachable00:24
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: Not good, ok -> sudo lshw -C network <- this line "configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too" is a driver loaded ?00:25
viper3905gt1thats LSHW? but in lowercase?00:26
DaRude2viper3905gt1: what does nm-tool say00:27
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: Affirmative. lshw lowercase.00:27
viper3905gt1it sez network disabled00:28
viper3905gt1sorry my linux box is in the outher room00:28
sudormrfwould what I am asking about break things?00:29
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* jamesd thinks it shouldn't matter where the linux box is, its all the same... the network is your friend.... 00:30
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: " network disabled" is that from the lshw output ?00:30
viper3905gt1it sez configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e00:30
Beldarsudormrf, As an related example, math problems have more than one way to complete, that question is not really answerable overall.00:30
sudormrfBeldar: which question? my first or my second?00:30
Beldarin other words "it depends"00:30
viper3905gt1at the top it sez network disabled00:31
Beldarsudormrf> hey guys, quick question about DEB files.  If I have a program currently installed and I then install a newer version with a DEB file, will the DEB file just overwrite the current version, or is it better to uninstall the current version first and install the DEB file?00:31
viper3905gt1 Beldar: it should update the current .deb00:31
sudormrfviper3905gt1: thank you00:31
viper3905gt1if it dont work then uninstall and reinstall the new deb00:32
viper3905gt1iv never had it not work00:32
helpmepleasehow can I kill the x server forom another terminal00:32
Beldarviper3905gt1, Sure till it does not, the problem is I see you have missed is it is not always true.00:32
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: sheessh, can you from the icon choose "enable Netwoeking " .. driver - e1000e - is loaded, should work !00:32
viper3905gt1duzent give me that option00:33
viper3905gt1im thinking some how iv turned off managed networking00:33
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Bashing-omviper3905gt1: But -> ifconfig eth0 up <- brings the network up still ?00:34
viper3905gt1yes and no00:35
Bashing-omhelpmeplease: Try -> sudo service lightdm stop <-, if in the unity DE.00:36
stef1ahow do i change the keyboard shortucts permanently on ubuntu 14.04?00:36
viper3905gt1it turns the card on but theres still problums after that00:36
viper3905gt1ok i found where i turn on networking in the GUI00:36
viper3905gt1now it sez network manager not running please run00:37
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viper3905gt1is there a way to just reset ALL network stuff to default? without reinstalling00:38
Atomos26http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418448/00:38
qstrahl`I made a custom launcher that launches a website in "app mode"; I gave it an icon, but in the dash it shows up with the chromium icon. What gives?00:39
rootptcan some one help me? im trying to install ubuntu in virtualbox but i can't..00:39
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: ->ipconfig <- in the output os "lo" is there "RX and TX packets numbers and " RX bytes:300 (300.0 B)  TX bytes:300 (300.0 B) in the output ? Maybe a bad cable here ?00:39
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zykotick9Bashing-om: iPconfig?00:39
viper3905gt1he means ifconfig00:40
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: NO ifconfig .. dangit .. this is not NEC ! sheessh.00:40
viper3905gt1i got ya lol00:44
Bashing-omzykotick9: thanks, old habits hard to live down, agravates me to no end sometimes.00:45
zykotick9Bashing-om: ;)00:45
viper3905gt1i get a return rx tx of between 300ish and 400ish00:45
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: I submit that the problem is not in the machine, locla loop back is up and functioning, can not get out of the machine, suspect the cable or a bent pin on the card.00:46
Bashing-omlocal*00:47
viper3905gt1humm let me check00:47
viper3905gt1on the NIC port?00:47
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: I have dogs in my house, and it has happened to me.00:47
viper3905gt1it sez when it boots that it cant load the network?00:48
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: wont take long or much to swap out the cable with the machine you are on now, and a flashlight to look for bent pins on the NIC.00:49
viper3905gt1just checked and swaped the cable00:50
viper3905gt1rebooting for good mesure00:50
viper3905gt1and incase i forget later thankyou very much for the help00:51
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: NP, I do what little I can to help.00:52
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viper3905gt1if this dont work im guna swap the drive and install agen on the new drive to make sure if it is or isent hardware00:52
skidawgzI have some questions about my raid5 drive and setting it up in fstab, is this the correct place to ask?00:53
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: I have not used teh Network Manager in ages, It still "Might" be a config problem // ???00:53
viper3905gt1ok if all els fails how can i move a joomla website to a new install?00:54
viper3905gt1do i just need the www folder? and how do i back up my database and restore it?00:56
MasterOfDisasterviper3905gt1: DB is what? mysql?00:57
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: Moving a server, tall order, clonzillia (??), current situation -> cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf <- do you see "managed=true" // ??00:57
viper3905gt1MasterOfDisaster: yes mysql lite00:59
viper3905gt1Bashing-om:  let me check00:59
MasterOfDisasterviper3905gt1: look up mysqldump00:59
MasterOfDisasterviper3905gt1: backing up the database, files and httpd config should suffice.01:00
cdaringehi all.  i'm curious if theres a way where I can watch for a process, then execute a process once if that process starts/exists/etc01:02
viper3905gt1Bashing-om: false01:03
MasterOfDisastercdaringe: hm... incrond could work, if you point it to /proc01:03
jamesdcdaringe: the hackish way is to replace the executable with a scipt that does what you want it to do, and then execute the orginal command01:03
cdaringeyea, i was thinking about symlinking the binary, but I want the app to be able to update without issue/etc and not have to update the script every time the binary change.  Regularly changing app*01:04
viper3905gt1if i nano edit that to say true would things work better ??? lol01:04
MasterOfDisastercdaringe: what process do you want to execute on launch?01:04
compdocviper3905gt1, would you rather set your manually, or let network manager do it?01:05
MasterOfDisastercdaringe: if your goal is monitoring/auditing, have a look at auditd and a remote syslog.01:05
viper3905gt1networkmanager01:05
viper3905gt1as long as i can set the static ip in networkmanager01:05
jamesdcdaringe: you could just add a special PATH so your script executes and calls the orignal file, original never changes, you just add your script first in the PATH=~/bin:$PATH01:05
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Bashing-omviper3905gt1: oohh, make it so ! .. should be [ifupdown]-> managed=true, then try sudo service networking start. let's see what happens.01:06
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compdocviper3905gt1, cant you add an interface in network manager now?01:06
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cdaringeMasterOfDisaster: a bash or php script01:06
viper3905gt1 compdoc: i can but it wont work or stay01:07
MasterOfDisastercdaringe: what jamesd suggested is the easiest to do, but might break on an update.01:07
tripelbI could do everything with gnome no teaching. so how do I look at a list of programs so I can pick the program I want, which by the way would do IRC.01:07
tripelb12.0401:08
zykotick9jamesd: fyi, ~/bin is automatically in a users PATH, if it exists when they login01:08
compdocviper3905gt1, do what Bashing-om says01:08
tripelb, but that shouldn't make a difference, should it?01:08
Bashing-omcompdoc: -> viper3905gt1  I am reaching here, all help is appreciated.01:09
cdaringeI also want it to be compatible with osx, so a more unixy approach is ideal.  In osx, the user will be double clicking the app, therefore the $PATH solution may not be the winner.  I know right, more conditionals keep flown in :)01:09
compdocBashing-om, viper3905gt1, set managed to true.01:09
jamesdzykotick9: okay, wasn't aware, i have custom .bashrc scripts on my systems... and have to make sure my stuff runs on all unix/linux systems so i don't code based on one feature of a certain distro01:10
zykotick9jamesd: well, i certainly doubt it's a feature in all gnu/linux distros... but certain debian based ones...  just point it out is all ;)01:10
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compdocviper3905gt1, can you run:  sudo lspci | grep net        does it find anything? what does it find?01:11
zykotick9compdoc: lspci does _not_ need sudo01:12
compdocdont care. I always use sudo out of habit01:12
viper3905gt1ok when i start networking it sez stop/waiting01:12
compdocviper3905gt1,   ^01:12
zykotick9compdoc: that's a bad habit, and certainly not one you should teach others01:12
compdoczykotick9, its not a bad habit when youre troubling shooting something like this. youre welcome to take over01:13
eleventeenWhen my upgrade hangs on "flashplugin-installer: downloading..." should I just kill the update process and start over?01:14
viper3905gt1sez "controler intell" dont look like anything importan01:14
AK47isMyADDRESShi how do i change unity search icon?01:14
AK47isMyADDRESSi can't find any good info on google01:14
MasterOfDisastercdaringe: yeah - if you move away from linux in terms of compatibility, a sh compatible wrapper script is your best option.01:15
viper3905gt1compdoc: lol i have the same bad habbet already01:15
compdocviper3905gt1, its a wired nic?01:15
viper3905gt1yes01:15
MasterOfDisastercdaringe: other options might be more convenient, but only available on one or the other.01:16
Beldareleventeen, Can you detail "upgrade" within a release or to another.01:16
eleventeenBeldar: 12.10 to 13.1001:16
tripelba little sleuthing and I remember texture and didn't work at all. I didn't even look for extending the system but decided to download it. It gives me a choice of Windows operating systems or for Dora. Wonderful Ubuntu! How do I do IRC?01:16
tripelbFedora01:17
compdocdoes ifconfig show an eth0, eth1, eth2, etc?01:17
viper3905gt1only if i sudo ifconfig eth0 up01:17
viper3905gt1when i boot it sez it cant start networking so it boots with out it01:18
Beldareleventeen, the words upgrade and update have multiple means within contexts. Can you give an exact description.01:18
Beldarmeanings*01:18
MasterOfDisastereleventeen: sharing which command led to your problem might make it clear.01:19
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: As you are running a static IP, what is in /etc/network/interfaces ?? -> iface ethX inet manual ??01:20
eleventeenBeldar: standard upgrade from the latest 12.10 to 13.10, just pushing the "upgrade" button when promted by the updater.01:20
eleventeenMasterOfDisaster: idk what commands the gui updater uses, but them.01:20
zykotick9viper3905gt1: fyi "sudo ifconfig -a" will show you not configured interfaces as well...01:20
MasterOfDisastereleventeen: ok.01:20
viper3905gt1i waz running a static ip then my modem went out n i replaced it then for some reson i had to redo it then it worked till i rebooted then it dident work01:21
Beldareleventeen, There is 13.04 between those two, and 12.10 is eol and may need a specific upgrade path.01:21
eleventeenIt said something like "your 12.10 is up to date, but you can upgrade to 13.10" (paraphrase)01:21
eleventeen13.04 was not an option01:22
Beldareleventeen, If you are in the download stage in this freeze not the install you can shut it down. I would check the sources list though after.01:22
viper3905gt1Bashing-om: zykotick9: it shows eth0 and eth1 and the loopback but it duzent show any iface or ip or anything for them ....eth1 is built in wifi that i dont use01:23
Beldareleventeen, I have not seen a upgrade from 12.10 to 13.10 skipping 13.04, myself, might be one, but from a eol that seems rather strange.01:24
eleventeenBeldar: This is the install phase. The flashplugin-installer doesn't contain the actual flashplugin, presumeably because it's proprietary junk, so the installer downloads it separately during the install phase.01:24
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Beldareleventeen, You said "my upgrade hangs on "flashplugin-installer: downloading..." so this hang is what?01:25
eleventeenBeldar: that nothing happens now; I'd guess it ran into problems downloading the flashplugin tar.01:26
BeldarI never upgrade so not sure if this is just your personal concern or an actual problem01:26
tripelbAnd so, it was frozen  solid01:27
tripelbnoooo01:27
eleventeenBeldar: I can't upgrade because crap is broken somewhere (probably Adobe's servers), so yes, it is a problem.01:27
eleventeenI'd appreciate some insight from someone who's actually familiar with the upgrade process, though.01:28
Beldareleventeen, Right and your question was if in the download, can you shutdown, yes you can, just not on the install.01:28
eleventeenBeldar: however, this is the "Installing the upgrades" phase. Is that not a problem?01:29
viper3905gt1if u want to upgrade just run sudo apt-get update then run sudo apt-get update01:29
Beldareleventeen, I have said yes twice that do not shut down on the install.01:29
viper3905gt12nd one should of ben sudo apt-get upgrade01:29
eleventeenBeldar: I realise that; I think we may be experiencing trouble with a language barrier.01:29
tripelband so, Useless Brothers, i added the ppa, updated it, installed Hexchat,then realized I had to update all since I only just installed the system, offline. Did this action do all the things that installing with the online connection does?01:30
Beldareleventeen, Hardly, read what you have posted and the wording.01:30
ccsloverhi everyone in my workspace settings menu i noticed that i am missing number of workspaces option now. all i have is horizontal and vertical workspaces.01:30
BeldarI'm a US citizen, you?01:30
ccsloverim using ubuntu 14.04 lts01:30
eleventeenBeldar: I am as well. I guessed that you weren't, though.01:31
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: We do not have an IP for some reason, maybe adressing in /etc/network/interfaces ? what returns from -> route -n <- .01:31
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ccsloverdoes anyone have any suggestions on why i dont have this setting anymore?01:32
viper3905gt1Bashing-om: destanation gateway genmask ... but nuthing under them01:32
tripelbI'd like to point out that the Internet Relay Chat page makes no listing of hexchat which is the clients it actually can do IRC.  .. it does mention text chat is she doesn't have a loader for a version for UbuntuC01:34
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: We ain't getting out of house ( machine), your machine has static IP, and the router is handing out DHCP ??01:34
bazhangtripelb, what version of ubuntu are you on01:34
ccsloverI am on ubuntu 14.0401:34
tripelb12.04 and sorry i am doing THIS on a tiny phone. sorry typos01:35
tripelbbazhang: 12.04 the latest LTS.01:35
ccsloverhas anyone even heard of this being missing?01:37
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viper3905gt1Bashing-om: router is ser for static ip @ 192.168.1.100 with ports 80 8080 21 22 forwarded and that haz worked for the past year01:37
tripelbcopybazhang: changed  ic01:38
tripelbcopybazhang: changed  nick so i can sign on from ubuntu laptop01:38
bazhangtripelbcopy, the latest LTS is 14.0401:40
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Xhearttbesides gparted is there another program to format hardrives totally? I have an old harddrive and would like to use it as an external hard drive to store info.01:41
viper3905gt1y not use gparted?01:43
viper3905gt1works fine for anything except for a drobo01:45
BeldarXheartt, There are handfuls of gui and cli options, what is wrong with gparted, it seems rather straight forward?01:46
tripelbcopybazhang: I can't log in because I didn't specify SASL properly somewhere on hexchat. I am overwhelmed with difficulties ..this is why Ubuntu is not good for everybody.01:48
crasicNot sure if this is the right channel to ask01:49
crasicI have a wierd problem uploading my package to my ppa on launchpad01:50
crasicBuilding for precise 12.04, pbuilder-dist builds correctly locally, but launchpad build fails01:50
tripelbcopybazhang: and I knew how to find it and download it. and not use the xchat that doesn't work on U. .. and I knew how to do the people that.... really I'm quite advanced and I'm having all these problems.01:50
crasicthe build generates source files in the build directory but that isn't being processod on the launchpad build01:51
tripelbcopybazhang: well I can't use it because I have no system to download it on and I don't have real internet here just phone internet so la de da I still need to do it now here with this01:51
bazhangtripelbcopy, I'm using hexchat with sasl on 14.04 from the repos, it's dead easy01:56
Xheartthi01:56
Xheartthello01:57
tripelbcopybazhang:  now looking up how to configure hexchat. -- I am sure glad the old Android phone does hotspot.01:58
Xhearttwhy am i getting this message when i want to see a webpage >>Enter password to unlock your login keyring01:58
Xhearttwhy am i getting this message when i want to see a webpage >>Enter password to unlock your login keyring02:00
viper3905gtits kinda like the auto login for chrome02:01
crasicYou have a password/username stored for that website in your keyring02:01
Xhearttno i do not02:02
Xhearttmaybe for another webpage but not for the one i opened02:02
arkorefuck it.  just going to boot back into windows and use vagrant instead.02:02
quotemstrIs Launchpad still the right upstream for Compiz?02:03
crasicXheartt: can you verify that you do not in fact have a keyring entry for that website (even if blank)02:04
Xheartti will check , thanks02:04
kostkonquotemstr, i'm guessing yes02:06
crasicXheartt other solution is to change keyring password to blank, this will prevent the dialog from showing02:07
Xheartti usually just close the window and keep on. thank you for responding crasic02:08
crasicWhat is the right channel to ask launchpad/packaging questions?02:09
tewardcrasic, #launchpad for launchpad, #ubuntu-packaging for packaging questions02:10
TheFakeazneD525Hello, I'd like some help with the audio in ubuntu02:10
tewardcrasic, high patience is required in both those channels, though02:10
kostkoncrasic, take your pick https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList02:10
crasicteward: thanks, I assumed so02:11
kostkoncrasic, or what teward said02:11
teward:P02:11
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tewardcrasic, you're welcome, but when in doubt, the channel list that kostkon linked you, or #ubuntu-irc, might be your best resource02:11
tewardcrasic, usually the channel list will be your best resource :)02:11
* teward drifts back into the shadows02:11
darius93why do ubuntu have nginx 1.4.6?02:12
darius93and not anything higher02:12
TheFakeazneD525darius93: there are many packages to package02:13
TheFakeazneD525plus, that might be a more stable build02:13
Jordan_Uarkore: Please watch your language. If you're still interested in trying to get Ubuntu working properly, please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install" and "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop".02:14
lucasttwhat button is used to show the menu in applications?02:17
darius93TheFakeazneD525, but 1.4 is extremely old even when it is considered "stable"02:17
TheFakeazneD525odd02:18
TheFakeazneD525darius93: there might be a PPA for that02:19
darius93it is a ppa but i was just wondering since 14.04 is a LTS it should contain something more up-to-date by now02:20
tewarddarius93, PPAs are updated by their respective teams02:23
tewarddarius93, if they haven't put anything recent in it, then that's an issue you take up with them02:23
teward!ppa02:23
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge02:23
aarobcWould it be possible to set my wallpaper to a network stream?02:23
captainmustardI think you can use VLC for that aarobc02:23
darius93tearms, i wasnt using a ppa at first. I was using the one from ubuntu repo itself. The PPA is using 1.6.0 for nginx (stable release?)02:23
awktiono:02:23
tewarddarius93, nginx ppa is the one i maintain02:24
tewarddarius93, 1.6.x is the stable release, if you want the 1.7.x series use mainline02:24
tewardTrusty has 1.4.whatever because freeze hit before 1.6.x was available02:25
teward(especially since 1.6.x/1.7.x were very recent nginx releases)02:26
darius93ah forgot that it was released after 14.04 came out02:27
tewarddarius93, yep.  if 1.6.x had been released prior to the 14.04 freezes, it might've made it in02:28
tewarddarius93, that's why the PPAs exist, for Ubuntu, because we can't always get those versions in that we want, because of the release cycle dates02:28
darius93well time to use the ppa then lol02:28
tewarddarius93, i usually update them when a new release comes out, give or take a couple days, or a week at most, depending on my work schedule.02:29
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Guest38410?02:34
Guest38410?hello anyoone out there?02:35
au_hi, I just deleted a folder with 80gb content but have still the same free disk space. and it's not in .local/share/Trash. so how to find it?02:46
UbuNoobmk3548208: are you using drbd02:47
crasichow did you delete it02:47
tripelbcopybazhang: oh dear I did everything right except : Methodist will text chat02:48
KD8MSTtopic02:50
pleasehelppmeHey guys! I'm still stuck on installing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a VM, just wondering if anyone can help me figure out what i'm doing wrong. I am encountering this error: sda1: WRITE SAME failed. Manually zeroing. when trying to log in02:50
pleasehelppmeSo far I've confirmed that the .iso I'm using is indeed the correct one (via md5) and I'm not using Wubi anymore02:51
ccsloverhi, im running ubuntu 14.04 an i am missing the option number of workspaces  which recently dissapeared.02:51
ccslovercan anyone help me out?02:51
kostkonccslover, need to install ccsm for that02:52
ccsloveri have ccsm.02:52
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kostkonccslover, oh. maybe in the unity plugin settings02:52
ccsloverthe option was there and now it has dissappeared everywhere02:52
UbuNoobquestion is there an app better than  fusesmb02:52
ccslovercant find it anywhere02:52
ccsloverall  i have is horizontal and vertical workspaces now02:53
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ccsloverso my  cube doesnt work etc02:53
Knight80How can I change a mount point on xubuntu?02:53
ccsloverany suggestions?02:55
Blue_Knightpleasehelpme: Your VM HDD is of what type?02:58
SonikkuAmericafossils03:01
Blue_Knight!rules03:01
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines03:01
SonikkuAmerica(I meant to type that in #trivialand, I promise)03:01
SonikkuAmerica(Also, I'm a seasoned IRC contributor, I know what the rules are :D)03:02
Blue_KnightSonikkuAmerica: I'm going there...03:02
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SonikkuAmericaCoincidentally I can also say I haven't had one in 10 years03:04
SonikkuAmericaInteresting...03:04
idimmuhi03:05
idimmuis this #neckbeaddating ?03:06
Seven_Six_Twoidimmu, sortof. It's actually #ubuntu, but what's the difference, really?03:06
idimmumy hobbies include compiling xfree, esotoric kernel network drivers and the nautilus file dialog03:07
idimmunone of which will get me laid03:07
idimmubut03:07
idimmuall of which wont get me herpes03:07
idimmuhi03:07
idimmuhow u doin'?03:07
Seven_Six_Twoidimmu, this is an official support channel. Can you please phrase your come-on from within an Ubuntu context?03:08
idimmuhi Seven_Six_Two03:09
idimmuyes i have 2 very important questions03:09
idimmuabout ubuntu03:10
Seven_Six_Two4203:10
idimmucos im upgrading03:10
idimmuare you ok to answer them>03:10
idimmu?03:10
Seven_Six_Twoif I know the answer is 42, definitely. Otherwise, maybe. Ask and see.03:10
idimmuok fantastic03:10
idimmufirst03:10
idimmuif i hired you as a sysadmin contractor for my current project, what is your day rate?03:11
Seven_Six_Twoit depends on your project and my duties.03:11
idimmuok03:11
idimmusecond question03:11
idimmusudo do-release-upgrade -p03:12
idimmuChecking for a new Ubuntu release03:12
idimmuNo new release found03:12
idimmui did this qhilst trying to upgrade03:12
idimmuand thats not cool03:12
idimmudo u know the answer?03:12
idimmucos like im not 14.0403:12
Seven_Six_Twoidimmu, what release are you going from/to03:12
idimmuand that should totally be 14.0403:12
idimmummm03:12
idimmuok hold on03:13
idimmuis it cat /etc/redhat-version that tells me the answer?03:13
pakairidimmu, cat /etc/issue03:13
Seven_Six_Twocat /etc/apt/sources.list03:13
Seven_Six_Twoit's at the end of each line. there's another place too, but I don't remember03:13
idimmuah thanks im all over that03:13
idimmucat: /etc/sources.list: No such file or directory03:14
idimmucalm:~ rus$03:14
idimmuis that ok?03:14
idimmubtw my name is rus03:14
idimmuand the server is called calm03:14
Seven_Six_Twocat /etc/apt/sources.list03:14
idimmuis that an ok servername?03:15
Seven_Six_Twoidimmu, if you like. That's the benefit of having your own server.03:15
idimmubefore i worked with ibm this is like similar but different03:15
qin_idle would be more precise03:15
meccoollWill i continue to get all security updates and patches if i downgrade to 12.04?03:15
Seven_Six_Twomeccooll, yes, but I don't think you should try to downgrade. reinstall.03:16
idimmumeccooll: why do u want to downgrade?03:17
idimmuthats the better question?03:17
zykotick9!downgrade | meccooll03:20
ubottumeccooll: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.03:20
idimmuSeven_Six_Two:03:20
idimmucat: /etc/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory03:20
idimmucalm:~ rus$03:20
idimmui did his03:20
idimmuwhats up??????03:20
zykotick9meccooll: personally, i'd replace "may break" with "will break"03:20
pakairidimmu, cat /etc/issue03:20
meccoollok so reinstall it is03:20
Seven_Six_Twoidimmu, can you paste the output of     uname -a03:20
meccoollidimmu, can't get my monitors to work with radeon driver so thinking of downgrading so i can use legacy ati binaries03:21
Seven_Six_Twomeccooll, do you have a separate /home partition?03:22
idimmuomg meccooll i had that a while ago03:23
idimmuhey pakair03:23
idimmucalm:~ rus$ cat /etc/issue03:23
idimmucat: /etc/issue: No such file or directory03:23
idimmuhet Seven_Six_Two03:23
idimmucalm:~ rus$ uname -a03:24
idimmuDarwin calm.config 13.1.0 Darwin Kernel Version 13.1.0: Wed Apr  2 23:52:02 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2422.92.1~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_6403:24
idimmucalm:~ rus$03:24
Seven_Six_Twoidimmu, ok, so you're not using ubuntu, you're on a mac I think03:24
meccoollidimmu, what did you end up doing? I for the life of me can't get a 4th monitor to not glitch on radeon drivers03:24
pakairidimmu, you're not running ubuntu ...03:25
idimmuyeah Seven_Six_Two i prefer macs they're better but why cant i downgrade my rpm?03:25
zykotick9pakair: actually, they aren't even running linux03:25
Seven_Six_Twoidimmu, I don't know. tbh you're asking in the wrong place. I don't know how to downgrade an rpm in osx03:26
idimmumeccooll: i got a mac, it solved all my hardware problems other than running redhat on debian, thats still kinda strange03:26
meccoollSeven_Six_Two, no but i have everything backed up so there's nothing that i need03:27
idimmuim not sure Seven_Six_Two knows what hes talking about, meccooll if u have backups ur ok03:28
idimmudo u use dropbox?03:28
Seven_Six_Twolol. I think I am confused right now.03:28
idimmuive backed up all my ms word files with dropbox03:28
idimmuits good03:28
meccoollidimmu, i have another PC that i back my stuff to03:29
pakairI lost it after finding he is on a Mac ... this is the Ubuntu channel.03:29
idimmuthis one time linux torvalds accepted my kernel patch as a bug fix03:29
apersonsilly question, can I have a line like `*/10 * * * * bash /home/user/scripts/start_*` in my crontab to start all scripts that start with start_?03:29
Seven_Six_Twoidimmu, you asked about   sudo do-release-upgrade   but that's not something that you do on mac03:29
idimmubut #ubuntu based off my debian package that they stole as it was lgpl banned me from swearing03:29
idimmuthe internet is a strange place03:29
Seven_Six_Twoidimmu, what is your issue?03:30
idimmuSeven_Six_Two: my viagra isnt selling well :(03:30
mojtabaHi, Is there any way to chat with skype people without using skype program in ubuntu?03:30
mojtababy using sth else?03:30
xanguamojtaba: no03:30
idimmumojtaba: yes03:30
idimmuvirtualbox and windows03:31
idimmuwill work every time03:31
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Seven_Six_Twomojtaba, it wasn't possible before, and Microsoft sure as something isn't going to allow it now!03:31
mojtabaidimmu: any other?03:31
idimmusure vmwar and windows03:31
mojtaba:~03:31
idimmuno its ok i use it03:31
mojtabadamn microsoft03:31
pakairaperson, set one script to contain ALL other scripts and run that. Take a look at /etc/rc0.d/03:32
nith1210mojtaba: If by "skype" you mean video call, Google Hangouts also works well in Ubuntu.03:32
apersonpakair↳ i was thinking that's what I'd have to do, I was just trying to avoid writing another script03:33
nith1210nith1210: If, however, you literally mean video call using skype, then sorry, not that I know of.03:33
mojtabanith1210: there is video conference holding in skype, so how can I join it?03:33
nith1210mojtaba: Sorry, I don't know, I don't use skype.03:34
pakairaperson, crontab does not like wildcards ... you can list all your scripts and throw them in an editor and set them correctly.03:34
idimmunith1210: ok but this one time i addef social commentrary where i wasnt redundant03:34
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nith1210!help03:45
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:45
Seven_Six_Twomojtaba, in linux? I don't think the linux client for skype has the conference call features. just one on one.03:46
mojtabaSeven_Six_Two: yes03:46
mojtabaIs there anything like skype for linux?03:47
Seven_Six_Twomojtaba, google hangouts03:47
holsteinplenty of things03:47
holsteinmojtaba: nothing that is allowed to connect to skype network03:47
holsteinnot on that level03:48
dw1mojtaba: why dont you just use skype :/03:50
mojtabadw1: how?03:52
dw1mojtaba: sudo apt-get install skype03:52
mojtabadw1: Is it safe in terms of security?03:53
dw1mojtaba: who knows03:53
dw1mojtaba: everything has bugs...03:53
dw1mojtaba: what kind of security03:53
mojtabadw1: It is a microsoft thing.03:53
dw1mojtaba: it runs as a user, no root permission03:54
Seven_Six_Twomojtaba, but everything will go through microsoft-controlled servers, and can be watched.03:55
dw1yes by bill gates in his evil lair :)03:56
_[mythBill Goat03:56
dw1but taht would exist with anyc lient03:57
SaeedullahHello Every body03:58
dw1!hi03:58
Saeedullahi am new in this chat room i want to learn basic Ubontu03:58
Saeedullahplz help me dear all friend03:58
_[mythGo install Ubuntu at http://ubuntu.com/03:58
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Saeedullahok03:59
dw1or you can run a liveusb to try it out03:59
Saeedullahi install the ubuntu03:59
Saeedullahi have already install ubuntu03:59
Seven_Six_TwoSaeedullah, that was super fast.03:59
Seven_Six_TwoSaeedullah, what do you want to know?04:00
Saeedullahseven_siz_two how can possible to learn it04:00
SohronSaeedullah: nobody here can just help you "learn basicUbontu" :D04:00
dw1Saeedullah: i recommend a google for: ubuntu basics04:00
Saeedullahdear i want to know how to configure DHCP in ubuntu04:00
dw1usually its automatic04:01
dw1wth 1, anywaywireless04:01
SohronSaeedullah: http://www.linuxine.com/node/270275 this is still somewhat useful04:01
dw1with wireless, anyway04:01
dw1just click your network and enter password .. voila04:02
Saeedullah<Sohron where from you?04:02
Sohronfinland04:02
kostkon!manual | Saeedullah04:02
ubottuSaeedullah: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/04:02
Saeedullahhow to enable root user in ubuntu?04:04
kostkon!root | Saeedullah04:04
ubottuSaeedullah: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:04
Sohronkostkon: thanks, didn't know about that :)04:05
kostkon;)04:05
Sohronmight just be for me too04:05
Sohroni'm not new to *nix, but quite new to ubuntu04:06
env#hdbits04:07
Saeedullahwhat is sudo?04:07
pakairSaeedullah, man sudo04:07
Seven_Six_Two!sudo04:07
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo04:07
dw1sudo is like jumping in a phonebooth and ripping off your clark kent costume04:08
qin_haha04:09
dw1you need it to save the world04:09
Saeedullahwhat is sudo?04:10
dw1everything runs as a restricted user unless you run as root user or with sudo04:10
dw1so you need sudo to upgrade the system etc04:10
qin_Fundamentaly? sudo gives you root like power without root04:11
dw1its for terminal commands04:11
dw1otherwise in graphic mode you might just get asked for password and it will secretly do sudo04:11
dw1google it .. much faster to learn04:12
Seven_Six_Two!cli04:12
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro04:12
Seven_Six_Two!zsh04:13
pakairsudo is a concatenation of 'su' - substitute user and 'do' - take action.04:13
Locke2002til04:14
cridenourIn rescue mode, I am unable to get internet when I chroot to /target. Is there a way around this?04:15
qin_pakair: i always thought that is form adjective "pseudo"...04:15
Seven_Six_Twoqin_, +104:16
qin_\o/04:17
Saeedullahhow to enable root account in ubuntu?04:17
nith1210cridenour: after chrooting (assuming you properly mounted /dev /proc and /sys), do a dhclient -v04:17
nith1210cridenour: alternatively, forcfully set your resolv.conf, you have internet, just no dns.04:17
Saeedullahhow to configure DHCP in ubntu?04:17
qin_Saeedullah: You shall not, and we must not tell you. Google do not try to hide it.04:18
cridenournith1210: ah might have to do the second as I'm fixing a broken system that can't load mount ha04:18
cridenournith1210: good to know.04:18
nith1210cridenour: Can't load "ha" ?04:18
qin_Saeedullah: What do you want to configure, DHCP lease is issued by your router. Do you mean DHCP server?04:19
holsteinSaeedullah: you shouldnt need to enable a root account, and you dont need it for DHCP.. what is your goal?04:19
cridenournith1210: just laughing at my own misfortune. never broke mount before.04:19
justin_how can i command line to see which version of mate im running>04:19
justin_>04:19
justin_?04:19
qin_justin_: lsb_release -a04:20
justin_ta!04:20
qin_no04:20
holsteinjustin_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/see-what-version-of-a-package-is-installed-on-ubuntu/04:20
nith1210cridenour: sorry, the option with resolv.conf is only true if by "rescue" you mean a livecd.04:20
Saeedullahholstein my goal is want to learn it04:20
nith1210cridenour: eitherway, dhclient should fix it if I remember correctly04:20
holsteinSaeedullah: learn what? DHCP? as a server?04:21
cridenournith1210: It is a livecd.04:21
nith1210cridenour: which explains the /target; you're trying to fix a broken mount?04:21
cridenournith1210: yea. I get mount (and umount)  command not found04:21
holsteinSaeedullah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server ,though, you are likely just trying to setup a static IP?04:22
justin_lsb_release -a   seems only to show the OS, not the desktop environment version04:22
nith1210cridenour: ls -l /bin/mount04:22
nith1210cridenour: My guess, your $PATH is wrong.04:22
cridenournith1210: No such file or directory04:22
Saeedullahholstein tanx friend04:22
kongda_Hello, I'd like to write an application to recognize three finger touch pad gesture on Ubuntu. Could anyone point me to the right direction?04:23
cridenournith1210: I did get dns working though! so apt-get install --reinstall mount should be an option now.04:23
qin_justin_: sorry, mate. I really did not seen question properly, apt-cache policy mate; I guess04:23
lotuspsychje!dev | kongda_04:23
ubottukongda_: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment04:23
nith1210cridenour: is this a desktop machine or server?04:23
kongda_Cool! Thanks.04:24
cridenournith1210: server,04:24
lotuspsychjekongda_: also join #ubuntu-devel the guys might point you in right direction04:24
kostkonlotuspsychje, #ubuntu-app-devel04:25
pakairjustin_, try gnome-system-monitor -s04:25
lotuspsychjekostkon: is that for specific app writing?04:25
kostkonlotuspsychje, for general app development yes04:26
lotuspsychjekostkon: tnx for the hint04:26
nith1210cridenour: there is a command to install all of the ubuntu server packages, I just don't remember it.04:26
holstein!lamp04:27
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.04:27
cridenournith1210: good point. if mount is missing, who knows what else is.. ha04:27
Saeedullahwhat is ubuntu?04:29
lotuspsychjefor all users who like to install ubuntu from usb on older machines that cant first boot usb try this: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html04:29
nith1210cridenour: is ubuntu-minimal installed?04:29
lotuspsychje!ubuntu | Saeedullah04:29
ubottuSaeedullah: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com04:29
Saeedullahyes04:29
nith1210cridenour: found it. "tasksel"04:30
Saeedullahopen source operating system means?04:30
nith1210cridenour: sudo tasksel install server04:30
lotuspsychjeSaeedullah: google is your best friend, keep this channel for ubuntu support mate04:31
cridenournith1210: it ran but i think aptitude still believes mount to be installed so it didn't change04:31
Saeedullahdear plz explain me coz i am new one in this chat rooom04:32
qin_!foss | Saeedullah04:32
ubottuSaeedullah: FOSS stands for Free and Open Source Software. See !freedom for more info.04:32
lotuspsychjeSaeedullah: we have an offtopic channel to discuss the coolest topics at #ubuntu-offtopic04:33
zykotick9lotuspsychje: if you think google is your "friend" i'd really hate to meet your enemies...04:33
nith1210cridenour: so /bin/mount is missing?04:33
qin_Saeedullah: It is not a "chat room" only channel04:33
xWolfzHey #ubuntu.04:33
nith1210cridenour: that is, it's still missing?04:33
Saeedullahubottu plz give one example in open source operating system04:33
ubottuSaeedullah: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:33
Saeedullahsorry dear04:33
xWolfzWhen I type the command env, it gives me a lot of information, which to the noob is not understandable.04:33
Saeedullahyes this is channel04:34
cridenournith1210: yup04:34
cridenournith1210: still missing.04:34
lotuspsychjezykotick9: we could discuss ' a matter of speaking' in ot too :p04:34
xWolfzCan anyone send me a link that explains this information.04:34
nith1210cridenour: are you sure your chroot is mounted correctly?04:34
Saeedullahplz give one example in open source operating system04:34
pakaircridenour, I think mount is /sbin/mount04:34
nith1210xWolfz: "env" with no other arguments, prints "<NAME>=<VALUE>" pairs which your default shell has loaded in it's environment04:35
qin_xWolfz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables04:35
cridenournith1210: paths is /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin04:35
xWolfzThanks qin_ and nith121004:35
nith1210cridenour: right, but can you explain how you set up "/target" before chrooting into it?04:36
Saeedullahdear my question is not solved open source operating system mean?04:36
cridenournith1210: 90% sure. Well the broken boot was for a missing mount and that's reflected here.04:36
cridenourpakair: I seem to have mount.ntfs-3g, mountall and umount.aufs - but not mount or umount04:36
cridenournith1210: I allowed the livecd to set it up. It's a LVM04:36
nith1210cridenour: I see, I supposed I've only ever done it manually with a livecd.04:37
qin_Saeedullah: What means that you are offerd access to source code is system you are using which often is connected with right of redistribution. You would want to do some independent research online too.04:38
lotuspsychjeSaeedullah: did you read the FOSS link that qin provided you?04:38
pakaircridenour, my error, try locate mount | grep bin04:38
Saeedullahqin brother explain me04:39
holsteinSaeedullah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software04:39
Saeedullahhow to learn basic ubuntu?04:40
qin_Damn, I need new keyboard...04:40
Saeedullahholstein you are my real friend04:40
Saeedullahtnx holstei04:40
lotuspsychjeSaeedullah: there are some good ubuntu ebooks and online tutorials04:40
holsteinSaeedullah: http://opensource.com/resources/what-open-source04:40
lotuspsychje!cookie | holstein04:40
ubottuholstein: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!04:40
cfhowlett!manual|Saeedullah less time on IRC and internet.  more time reading.  start with the manual04:40
ubottuSaeedullah less time on IRC and internet.  more time reading.  start with the manual: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/04:40
abhraversion of PSPP, the statistical analytical software, is old in the repository; at least by two years. launchpad bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/131816004:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1318160 in pspp (Debian) "pspp version not being udated to the latest stable release" [Undecided,New]04:41
Saeedullahdear i tell you04:41
Saeedullahi am new select of lecturar in university04:41
dioioibSaeedullah: i also means you can freely use the opperating system at no cost to you even if you want to use if for commercial reasons.04:41
Saeedullahi have alot of problem04:41
lotuspsychje!info pspp04:41
ubottupspp (source: pspp): Statistical analysis tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.9+git20120620-1.2 (trusty), package size 3825 kB, installed size 10444 kB04:41
cfhowlettSaeedullah that's WHY you read.  http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks04:41
holsteinSaeedullah: ask, if you have a support question04:41
lotuspsychjeabhra: whats your version mate?04:42
Saeedullahholstein okay brother04:42
Saeedullahi want to learn step by step if u help me04:42
cridenourpakair: /bin/mount and /bin/umount are listed in that04:42
dioioibSaeedullah: you are actually asking a difficult question? How do you intent to use ubuntu? are you going to use Ubuntu Server or Desktop?04:43
holsteinSaeedullah: sure.. just reference the references given, and ask anything you like04:43
pakaircridenour, /bin/mount calls /sbin/mount.whatever upon the parameters you give04:43
Saeedullahyes04:44
Saeedullahbrothere04:44
Saeedullahi am working in a bank tooo04:44
cfhowlettholstein I'm on ubuntustudio - no "welcome to ubuntu" manual.  there USED to some kind of welcome document in vanilla buntu.  Is that now gone?04:44
abhralotuspsychje, presently using version 0.8.3 (pspp) in xubuntu 14.04. same problem for ubuntu 14.04 as well. the version available in the repository is 0.7.9.04:44
Saeedullahi am using ubuntu for DVR Backup04:44
Saeedullahnow i  join the university04:44
Saeedullahas a teacher04:45
Saeedullahi want to learn from basic04:45
holsteinSaeedullah: please use this channel only for support.. chatting about the bank and univiersity is welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic04:45
holsteinSaeedullah: just install ubuntu, use it, and ask if you have a question..04:45
Saeedullahi have installed ubuntu in my system04:45
holsteinSaeedullah: sure. then, use it, and ask what you like.. *specifically*04:45
Saeedullahholstein brother04:45
Saeedullahtnx04:45
Saeedullahfrom you04:46
dioioibSaeedullah: what basics do you want to learn? installing software? Using the Unity interface? can you please be specific?04:46
Saeedullahyes dioioib04:46
cridenourpakair: interesting. I seem to have most of the sbin versions. See any issue with a apt-get install --reinstall mount?04:46
Saeedullahhow to installing software?04:46
pakaircridenour, it should reinstall correctly04:47
dioioibSaeedullah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware04:47
holsteinSaeedullah: i suggest not installing software for a while.. i suggest using the system as is, and get comfortable.. but, there is a "software center" in the menu, where you can browse and install what you like04:47
cfhowlettSaeedullah and you 've been advised repeatedly where to start reading - something a teacher should have no problem with.  so leave IRC, download the manual and books and start learning.04:47
lotuspsychjeabhra: did you add this ppa? https://launchpad.net/~adamzammit/+archive/pspp04:47
dioioibSaeedullah: start there after you install the software as holstein suggests. There are actually about 3 different ways to install software in ubuntu.04:48
holsteinSaeedullah: you can also ask how to install something in particular, like, a web browser you prefer, or, *anything* else you want to ask.. but, you'll need to ask04:48
cridenourpakair: it did. going to try and reboot the system04:48
pakaircridenour, good04:49
cridenourpakair: that seemed to do it. i'm a little worried that it disappeared to begin with, but at least i'm in.04:49
cridenourthank you both pakair and nith121004:49
abhralotuspsychje, i know about it; but i am talking about the older version available in the repository. i am a little bit hesitant about using external, untrusted ppa. thanks for the advice though04:49
pakaircridenour, np04:49
Saeedullahdioioib tnx brother04:49
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nith1210cridenour: I'm still trying to think how you got to where you are...04:50
Saeedullahholstein tnx from too04:50
lotuspsychjeabhra: not sure where else to point you mate04:50
cridenournith1210: was attempting to get nsenter (for use with docker) and had to update util-linux04:51
abhralotuspsychje, additionally, there is git repository available for it. i could compile the software from there as well.compiling the latest software is not the problem; the older version present in the repository is the problem04:51
abhralotuspsychje, no problem; thanks for the effort.really appreciate it04:51
cridenournith1210: built from source - but I can't imagine their makefile would touch mount.04:52
Saeedullahholstein how to configuer ip address and subnetmask and default getway?04:52
holsteinSaeedullah: you just have to ask what you are trying to do04:52
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nith1210cridenour: When you say you built it from source, do you mean that you also did a sudo make install or something equiv?04:53
AK47isMyADDRESShi when i try 2 delete a image from home folder it tell's  me "Can't Be Put In Trash Delete Immediately?" help plz04:53
holsteinSaeedullah: you shouldnt have to.. you should connect to the gateway, and the DHCP server there gives you an address.. if thats not the case, you need to specifiy what restrictions, or configurations you are specificially encountering04:53
cridenournith1210: yea.04:53
lotuspsychjesomeone knows where to point abhra to rapport outdated software on ubuntu rep?04:54
nith1210cridenour: Ahh, ok. mount is included in that packge by the look of it. I recommend "apt-get source util-linux", upgrade the source in that package to the latest, then build it.04:54
nith1210cridenour: takes longer, but far cleaning04:54
Saeedullahholstein brothere i have static ip adderee in every system04:54
cfhowlettAK47isMyADDRESS so the option should be to delete immediately04:54
nith1210cridenour: *cleaner04:54
Saeedullahi want to open google in ubuntu?04:54
cridenournith1210: ah will do.04:54
cfhowlettSaeedullah you're on the internet now via IRC, so clearly you know how to fire up the browser.  your claim that you don't know how to google is suspicious04:55
AK47isMyADDRESScfhowlett: it has never done this b4, i wanna sent it 2 trash only04:55
holsteinSaeedullah: sure.. so, on *any* other system, look and see what the configuration is, and set ubuntu that way04:55
kostkonAK47isMyADDRESS, have you got enough space in your hoem and how big is the file04:56
cfhowlettAK47isMyADDRESS might not be possible due to the file size04:56
AK47isMyADDRESS2mb file04:56
AK47isMyADDRESSon 500gb hd04:56
* Ranieri__ yawns04:56
holsteinAK47isMyADDRESS: did you try just deleting? is that not an option?04:56
pakairAK47isMyADDRESS, http://askubuntu.com/questions/288513/cant-move-files-to-the-trash04:57
AK47isMyADDRESSwhen i do delete it pops up says can't move 2 trash delete only for good04:57
AK47isMyADDRESSok ty04:57
kingbeowolfi am planning on running two 1440p monitors wit a gt 630 will that work in ubuntu?04:58
holsteinkingbeowolf: nothing about ubuntu will prevent that.. but, you may want to check on that specific hardware supporting linux04:59
kingbeowolfits nvidia04:59
kingbeowolfi thought nvidia worked well?04:59
Seven_Six_Twokingbeowolf, often it does, yes.04:59
holsteinsure. but, where i am with hardware these days is.. if it doesnt specifically promise linux support, then i know to expect to be my own tech suport for the device05:00
pakairkingbeowolf, search for 'gt630 ubuntu'05:00
kingbeowolfpakair it is a hard question to search for i think05:02
kingbeowolfi am planning on running two 1440p monitors wit a gt 630 will that work in ubuntu? pakair05:02
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holsteinkingbeowolf: sure, its challenging.. since, its really up to nvidia to promise the support and answer the question.. you'll have to just try the driver and see, or find someone with that specific hardware by searching online. but, i "believe it when i see it" running on my hardware05:04
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pakairkingbeowolf, I did that search, looked at the links, subset for your ubuntu version. Did not see any flags05:04
kingbeowolfholstein have you ever ran two video cards at once?05:04
gusclHi everyone, I'm new on irc and I'm looking for some good channels to learn programming. Do you guys know any of them? Thanks.05:04
holsteinkingbeowolf: ubuntu *certainly* provides support for the dual head setup... and doenst block nvidia from providing driver support in anyway05:05
kingbeowolfholstein i have in crossfire and sli but not just 2 seperate cards05:05
holsteinkingbeowolf: i have. and sometimes it worked.. sometimes, not05:05
kingbeowolfok05:05
holsteinkingbeowolf: always depeding on how well the manufacturer's driver works.. or, if the support comes from them for open support, such as well supported intel hardware05:06
lotuspsychjeguscl: ##programming05:06
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kingbeowolfholstein right right05:06
gusclThanks lotus, =]05:06
introomI am on ubuntu 12.04, the busybox in the repo doesn't have ftpd compiled.05:07
introomis there any version more fully fledged?05:08
kostkonkingbeowolf, also having monitors with good/not buggy EDIDs helps05:08
yellowfishwhen I do ps aux, what do S+ and R+ stand for?05:08
pakairyellowfish, R process running, S process sleeping05:10
yellowfishMy python processes are running though but it says S+05:11
yellowfishat least the file that it's changing keeps getting updated05:11
yellowfishI'm running Screen btw05:11
pakairyellowfish, it could be about to sleep, there is a table that holds all processes sleeping or about to sleep, same for running. Try man ps05:14
BelorixHey guys, i am currently trying to install ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my desktop. I am running into an issue where ubuntu isnt detecting my windows partitions.  I am not using UEFI even tho my motherboard does support it: http://prntscr.com/3i59q3   http://prntscr.com/3i59ud05:16
Jordan_UBelorix: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" from an Ubuntu LiveCD/DVD.05:22
abhrawhat does "no longer affect" mean? in this launchpad bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1308998 ), it was mentioned that the individual status bar was always not visible while using synaptic. in the comments section, it was mentioned that it no longer affects synaptic; but synaptic is still affected with this. so, what does "no longer affect" mean?05:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1308998 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "status column in synaptic download window keeps disappearing" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:25
rundll32what are the available desktop enviarment in ubunto ?05:28
dw1rundll32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available05:31
tripelbhi how do i install chrome for 12.04? it is not in the software center, after downloading it from the chrome website i dont see GO, i see ubuntu softwaree05:31
tripelbno, not yet.05:31
tripelbignore above05:32
dw1tripelb: download it..... run the .deb05:32
dw1tripelb: :)05:32
kostkontripelb, click on Install05:32
belorixJordan_U: -1 or -I05:32
dw1belorix: small -L05:32
belorixJordan_U: Giving me an warning regarding GPT tables05:33
tripelbi did, gave my password, then it cant find chrome -says terminal. later i get ubuntu has experienced an internal error but then nothing changed.05:34
Jordan_Ubelorix: That problem is what's preventing Ubunu's installer from working with that partition table.05:34
kostkontripelb, so you installed it, it says it's already isntalled but you can't find it05:35
tripelbI think I am going to get 14.04 since the other version of 12.04 I had kept getting internal errors. After gnome was disbanded I dont like ubuntu. it's become endless problems.05:35
Jordan_Ubelorix: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/05:35
dw1tripelb: ive always used gnome-session-fallback ... 12.04 and 14.0405:36
yellowfishdat moment when github.com is down05:36
dw1tripelb: no unity for me05:36
tripelbthis is a samsung amd laptop, should I get 64 bit? or 32? (assuming they both exist.05:36
dw1tripelb: if uname -a says 64 then get 6405:37
kostkontripelb, wild guess, 64bit05:37
tripelbI cant tell a thing about which linux I want from the ubuntu software center. what's it good for?05:37
dw1tripelb: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-find-if-processor-is-64-bit-or-not/05:38
dw1tripelb: software center is for addon packages, not the base OS05:38
dw1tripelb: 32 and 64 have mostly the same stuff available05:39
tripelbthis is hexchat and I cant join any other channels? this has never happened before. I wanted to see if there is a #mint and it didnt even make one for me.05:40
kostkontripelb, mint channel is on another server05:40
kostkon!mint05:40
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org05:40
tripelbwait, I did join. it just took forever.05:47
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molossusdoes anyone know a better alternative for aptana studio 3? i am looking for an lightweight ide with ftp support to edit files05:49
tripelbdw1 thanks for the comments. I understand more now. I will go to either 14.04 or another type of linux that acts more like gnome. Unity fazes me.05:49
EpicCyndaquilmolossus: see if any of these might work for you: http://alternativeto.net/software/aptana/?platform=linux05:49
dw1tripelb: there are a lot of choices http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available05:50
belorixJordan_U: Im trying to backup my partitions table to a USB drive. However i keep getting permission denied, sfdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb for reading05:50
dw1tripelb: all can run on ubuntu05:50
chutwiganyone have any idea why the installer for 14.04 LTS would be really balky when installing onto a poweredge R820? it took forever to convince it that it could use one of the network connections, and now it keeps falling over at the step where it tries to configure apt05:50
tripelbOK I will stick to ubuntu, there's no community over at #mint.05:51
dw1tripelb: and many work on 12.04 or 14.04 ..05:51
chutwigpops up the progress bar, chugs for a second, then returns me to the main menu05:51
dw1tripelb: yeah thats one of the best parts of ubuntu05:51
chutwigi just want it to install grub and reboot >:(05:51
cisconinjai am using Ubuntu 13.10 at home, and sometimes at work i use cygwin to export firefox from my home to work laptop. is there anyway when i come home and say i am using a different laptop i could export the same firefox session ?05:51
dw1tripelb: so just install gnome-session-fallback and choose gnome at login for classic gnome :)05:52
kostkoncisconinja, Firefox Sync?05:52
Jordan_Ubelorix: sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sdX > parts.txt05:53
tripelband so I just found an official flavor of ubuntu http://ubuntugnome.org/ yippee05:53
cisconinjakostkon, no. let us say i use gimp05:53
tripelb!gnome05:53
ubottuGNOME was the default desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10. To install the GNOME Shell, type [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ] in a !terminal. For the GNOME-based !flavor of Ubuntu, see !ubuntu-gnome05:53
dw1tripelb: no need.. just install the packages on regular ubuntu :/05:54
chutwigany way to force debian-installer to bypass this step it's falling over on?05:54
kostkoncisconinja, misunderstood the q05:54
tripelbrighton. hi dw1 OK. Is there an advantage to doing it that way?05:54
cisconinjakostkon, i am asking if there is a way that i can use the same session05:54
dw1tripelb: no disadvantage that i know :)05:55
qin_cisconinja: chrome have build sync, as for others you can use online storage for syn05:55
jason__Anyone here that can answer a question?05:55
dw1tripelb: i dont use gnome-shell just gnome-session-fallback .. i hear its gnome 2-ish05:55
cisconinjagin_ what if i was using gimp or open office05:55
qin_cisconinja: with some risks, you can copy revelant parts of ~/;05:56
jason__I have a laptop that has on board intel graphics that aren't supported yet I guess...was wondering how often intel drivers get added in05:57
dw1tripelb: you can see it at that link05:57
qin_cisconinja: I meant copy between boxes05:57
belorixJordan_U: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util sfdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.05:57
dw1tripelb: http://askubuntu.com/a/6508705:57
jason__Is there even a set time or does it vary?05:58
jason__Or maybe I'm asking at the wrong place...05:58
kostkon!patience | jason__,05:59
ubottujason__,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/05:59
jason__I didn't repeat it?05:59
tripelbdw1 ah. previously was using the gnome-classic but as soon as I started with 12.04 was troubled but also kept doing things better (except for not supporting my dell all in one printer) so I will be very happy to ditch 12. (PS I used ubuntu 6 to 10 and "everything worked. I was lucky maybe.)06:00
jason__I've spent the last 24 straight hours troubleshooting an issue so I assure you I have done my share of googling etc06:00
tripelbI must sleep now. My legs hurt. tada.06:00
dw1jason__: should just be autodetected and work, no?06:01
jason__Nope06:01
qin_jason__: What chipset is it?06:01
dw1jason__: what happens? anything in the logs?06:01
jason__X server error and a backlight issue that can't be fixed06:01
kostkonjason__, could you paste the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga06:01
kostkonjason__, and what's the problem you are having exactly06:02
dw1tripelb: well to upgrade you will have to use do-release-upgrade -d or software-updater -d until 14.04.1 is out or it wont be offered06:02
jason__No I'm actually on my phone and the pc has been packaged and ready to go back to the store in the morning. I was just curious.06:02
kostkonjason__, what was the problem06:02
dw1jason__: then you are beyond help :p06:03
jason__X server failed to start error, bypassed with nomodeset in grub got me to a terminal where I had to configure xorg in order to even full boot. Other wise backlight died after grub everytime. The laptop just came out.06:04
jason__After booted I would stay in software rendering mode06:04
xningHello. I encountered package updating problems: libavcodec-extra-54 conflicts with libavcodec5406:04
xningI use 14.0406:04
jribxning: apt-cache policy libavcodec54 libavcodec-extra-5406:05
jason__dw1: lol yup. Just wanted to ask if there were set time frames when ubuntu adds driver support for new hardware06:06
belorixJordan_U: Think i got it to work correctly, lets see. And thank you for the help/.06:06
xningjrib, the results is:06:06
xninglibavcodec54:06:06
xning  Installed: (none)06:06
xning  Candidate: 6:9.13-0ubuntu0.14.04.106:06
xning  Version table:06:06
xning     6:9.13-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 006:06
unopastexning you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted06:06
dw1jason__: doubt it06:07
dw1jason__: youd have to file a bug report or something06:07
jason__dw1: ah ok. No worries. Getting replaced at 11am06:07
xningjrib, I got the results as follows06:07
xninglibavcodec54:06:08
xning  Installed: (none)06:08
xning  Candidate: 6:9.13-0ubuntu0.14.04.106:08
jribxning: use a pastebin06:08
jason__You guys have a good night06:08
xninglibavcodec-extra-54:06:08
xning  Installed: 6:9.11-2ubuntu206:08
xning  Candidate: 6:9.13-0ubuntu0.14.04.106:08
iscorpionhow can i create infrastructure wireless network as to share my wired connection?06:08
unopastexning you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted06:08
cfhowlettxning use the paste.  paste is your friend06:08
xningjrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7445677/06:10
xningThanks everybody06:10
iscorpionconnectify  alternative for ubuntu?06:10
jribxning: did you read the description for each?06:11
jribxning: do "apt-cache show PACKAGE" for each package06:11
kostkonjason__, there is a timeframe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack06:12
xningjrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7445685/06:14
jribxning: did you read it?06:14
xningYes06:15
AnaugalHello; I'm trying to repair an install of ubuntu 14.04 using boot-repair, and when it got me to reinstall grub I'm getting some errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7445687/06:15
jribxning: particularly, "This package is a replacement for the regular libavcodec54 library package"06:15
jribxning: so install whichever you want06:15
xningjrib, I have installed libavcodec-extra-54, and didn't install libavcodec54. But the problem is, now libavcodec-extra-54 need update, and libavcodec54 is its dependency.06:18
xningI cannot update libavcodec-extra-5406:18
jribxning: where do you see that it is its dependency?06:19
hmsimhahas anyone upgraded to 14.04 recently and noticed wifi problems with a realtek network card?06:20
xningSorry. I should make it clear that now libavcodec-extra-54 need update, and when I try this, libavcodec54 be part of packages that will be installed06:20
jribxning: pastebin06:21
hmsimhapages seem to be loading slowly for me on my ubuntu laptop, but not on my nook or android06:21
xningjrib, I don't know why. I checked the packages that need update, if they need libavcodec54, they express as "libavocodec54 | libavcodec-extra-54 ". So it should no problem if I have installed libavcodec-extra-54, right? So it aptitude' problem, I think.06:26
jribxning: pastebin what you are doing and the full output06:26
xningThanks, jrib. I think it's OK for me. I have resolved the problem. Thanks very much06:27
jribxning: ok06:27
meccoollHow can i get X's version06:29
dkhrapovHi, anybody can help me with this problem?06:33
dkhrapovhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/449619/sound-2-1-not-working-on-14-0406:33
shawnbon206is talking allowed in here?06:36
cfhowlettshawnbon206 offtopic chat goes to #ubuntu-offtopic06:37
Radon_3hi everybody06:40
Radon_3I have a question regarding, telnet, package.06:40
Radon_3now, does ubuntu 12.04 come with it installed?06:40
qin_!info telnet06:41
ubottutelnet (source: netkit-telnet): The telnet client. In component main, is standard. Version 0.17-36build2 (trusty), package size 62 kB, installed size 156 kB06:41
Saeedullahhello all friend06:41
qin_yes06:41
Saeedullahhow to work in ubuntu?06:41
Radon_3but why?06:42
Radon_3qin_: why? it is a security risk package06:42
Saeedullahfirst step,second setep last step?06:42
qin_Radon_3: Client or server you mean?06:42
Radon_3qin_: client06:43
qin_Radon_3: Where did you got "sequrity risk" stuff from?06:43
Saeedullahdid the ubuntu use kernel files?06:43
qin_*security.06:43
Radon_3qin_: wait, I will find it ... a second please06:44
Saeedullahok06:44
Radon_3qin_: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Packages_Avoid.html06:44
Radon_3Saeedullah: you from afghanistan?06:45
Saeedullahdo u have information about  kernel files06:45
Saeedullah?06:45
bekksSaeedullah: What do you want to know in detail?06:45
Radon_3Saeedullah: no, what is it that you are looking for?06:46
Radon_3Saeedullah: Can you speak Farsi? Cause I can help you to some extend if you can man, I speak Farsi...06:46
Radon_3qin_: so shoul I take that info seriously?06:47
kostkon!farsi | Radon_306:47
ubottuRadon_3: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir  برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است.06:47
qin_Radon_3: With this logic, do not use Linux since Evil Admin may have installed key logger. But that list make sense06:47
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Radon_3qin_: Evil Admin???06:48
Radon_3I installed Ubuntu my se3lf man06:48
Radon_3qin_: Can you explain a bit more please??06:48
qin_Radon_3: In description of telnet it complains about plain text connection .06:48
bekksqin_: Which is true so far. Telnet doesnt use any encryption at all.06:49
mr_louA command-line (wav or mp3 or flac) to ogg converter?06:50
qin_Radon_3: "elnet: Users will try to telnet to remote hosts and log in using clear text passwords. Run dsniff on the local machine as root to see that you can easily capture their passwords!" - that what would do someone with root/sudo access in your system (or someone sniffing your network)06:50
Radon_3qin_: log in too man, telnet can be yoused to login illegaly to a machine,06:51
Radon_3so telnet was installed in ubuntu 12.04 by ubuntu developers you meaan?06:51
qin_Radon_3: That would require comparibily server, like telnetd06:51
bekksRadon_3: No, it wasnt.06:52
Radon_3so with regard to all you have said so far, and that telnet was in ubuntu from Canonical, should I go back and install it again qin_ ??06:52
bekksqin_: Which doesnt change the fact that it is highly insecure and should be extincted.06:52
qin_Radon_3: Will you use it?06:53
Radon_3no,06:53
Radon_3not at all06:53
bekksRadon_3: Just uninstall it, if telnet is installed.06:53
Radon_3I hate telnet06:53
Blue1i use telnet to make sure a port is open06:53
Radon_3Is there some sort of log I could check if telnet has been used so far or not?06:53
Blue1sanity check06:53
Blue1dpkg -l | grep telnet06:54
qin_bekks: Dunno, I like to telnet somewhere from time to time, we are discussing how dangareous is telnet client06:54
bekksqin_: The client isnt dangerous at all. It is the server which imposes security issues.06:54
Blue1correct06:54
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qin_bekks: Thank you!06:54
Radon_3Thank you everyone, you have all been huge help to me people...06:55
qin_bekks: It was pointed that client do not possess any password protection, so sudoes can easliy gather users credentials06:55
Radon_3thank you all so much06:55
bekksqin_: The point is: the client doesnt use any password protection, because the server cant handle that.06:56
bekksqin_: the telnet client itself is a very handy tool to test connections. Though you should not use connections to a telnetd for security reasons.06:57
qin_heh, Radon_3? Don't Panick.06:57
qin_bekks: Radon_3 should be adresee, i have already said that.06:58
qin_bekks: Anyway, thats linky which put Radon_3 on his feet: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Packages_Avoid.html06:59
bekksqin_: Then he got things wrong, actually.07:00
bekksRadon_3: PRetty clear description there: "telnet: Users will try to telnet to remote hosts and log in using clear text passwords."07:00
bekksRadon_3: All other usecases of telnet are not covered.07:00
qin_bekks: Too late, he has purged half of his system ;)07:01
bekksqin_: He'll learn to stay calm and breathe next time.07:01
Radon_3bekks: seriously dudes??? I have damaged the system???07:02
Radon_3comeon now...07:02
Radon_3I only purged telnet07:02
Radon_3what damages could it do?07:02
bekksRadon_3: I dont know what you have done to your system yet.07:02
bekksRadon_3: So what did you do, in detail?07:03
Radon_3I told you, I "only" purged telent07:03
Radon_3after I read that article last night07:03
bekksRadon_3: Which wasnt necessary, but doesnt do any harm.07:03
Radon_3so why do you say I have purged half of my system?07:03
qin_Radon_3: I wasn't serious. You can always: sudo apt-get install -f; to see if all is ok.07:04
Jaehello, has anybody heard of a "red" command before?07:04
bekksRadon_3: I did not say that.07:04
bekksJae: You can search "packages.ubuntu.com" for that command.07:04
Jaeah thanks07:04
cfhowlettRadon_3 no expert me, but I bet the #ubuntu-server channel with its sysadmins would have valuable insight07:04
Jaeits just i can't get out of it07:04
dw1Jae: press q then enter07:05
dw1Jae: its a text editor07:05
Jaeomg thanks07:05
dw1Jae: man red07:05
Jaei've been doing ctrl+ c07:05
Blue1i just use nano --07:05
Jaeand :q :quit07:05
Jaelol07:05
bekks"Though shall not use text editors others than vi." ;)07:06
Jaeno i misspelled, i didn't think it was a text editor07:06
Jae^07:06
Jaeim used to vim07:06
Jaesry im just new, thanks again dwl07:06
dw1lucky guess. :)07:06
Blue1bekks: heh -- vi was too esoteric for me.07:06
bekksBlue1: I didnt like the coffee emacs made.07:06
Radon_3I like Gnu emacs, but I end up using nano all the time07:07
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dw1vi or gedit07:07
Blue1nano had a zero learning curve07:07
ludkillerRadon_3, :>07:07
ludkilleryea07:07
dw1and vi still bugs the heck out of me07:07
ludkillernano07:07
ludkilleris nice07:07
Blue1it gets the job done -07:08
dw1does it have that auto-wordwrap thing that pico has tho07:08
dw1im afraid of that07:08
dw1wrecked my cron tasks too many times :)07:09
ludkillerI got arch linux up and running looks nice :D07:09
Blue1i couldn't figure out gnome3 or unity so I use xubuntu07:10
dw1cool07:10
dw1i use gnome classic :)07:10
Blue1can you get gnome classic in ubuntu?07:11
bekksIsnt gnome classic just dead?07:11
dw1its not called classic but i use the gnome-session-fallback / flashback07:11
dw1no gnome-shell :/07:11
Blue1ahh07:11
Blue1gnome 2 today.  gnome 2 tomorrow.  gnome 2 forever.07:12
dw1its a 2 lookaline running on 3, apparently07:12
dw1lookalike*07:12
cjsarettethis is ubuntu :)07:12
ludkillerI am using enlightenment :D07:12
ludkillerlooks pretty nice07:12
Blue1i would use unity or gnome 3 if they had some kind of guide for gnome 2 users - context switching is non-trivial07:12
bekksBlue1: alt+tab  -- for gnome users, that might be hard ;)07:13
ludkillerhttps://www.enlightenment.org/07:13
ludkilleryou can give it a try07:13
qin_Blue1: there is no gnome 2 anymore, is it?07:13
bekksqin_: Yeah, gnome 2 upstream is dead.07:13
Blue1qin_: i guess that's now gnome-fallback07:13
Blue1yes it is dead, jim07:13
bekksSo let it go.07:14
cjsarettemy ubuntu installation started screwing up after the upgrade from 13 -> 14.  Usually it screws up during the upgrade.  I decided to switch os's until i feel comfortable returning07:14
Blue1cjsarette: upgrades have been problematic for me - it's why I backup /etc/ and /home/ and do a fresh install07:14
qin_Wise man.07:15
cjsarettei went back to linux mint07:15
bekksMy apologies.07:15
cjsarettei prefer the simpler MATE, its like the older GNOME07:15
Blue1well xubuntu had a bit of a learning curve too - -but not too bad07:16
cjsaretteand yeah, you see it didn't have any errors after the upgrade.  It complained about /boot/efi a few times after booting the upgrade.  I tired running boot-repair and it couldn't find the installation07:16
SaeedullahHello Radon_307:16
Blue1cjsarette: I have a recipe for fixing those types of things07:16
dw1all my upgrades worked ftw07:16
Radon_3Saeedullah: hello brother07:16
Radon_3Saeedullah: where have you been?07:17
Saeedullahsorry for late respons07:17
cjsarettelol07:17
Saeedullahi am in afghanistan07:17
Saeedullahworking in bank07:17
rundll32what are the bootloaders available?07:17
Radon_3cjsarette: why lol?07:17
cjsarettei was following the ubuntu help page and it didn't work, so i returned to something i have more control of07:17
Saeedullahin now want to joint the university as a lecturer07:17
dw1cjsarette: youll be back for the family :p07:18
rundll32other than grub and lilo ?07:18
cjsarettei still use ubuntu touch at least07:18
bekkscjsarette: More control than...? Mint is totally based upon Ubuntu, and uses the exact same tools.07:18
SaeedullahRadon_3 i want to learn ubuntu step by step07:18
Saeedullah is it  possible to learn ?07:19
cjsarettebekks yeah i have been using linux mint longer07:19
cjsarettei always had issues with the desktop, little things that could be added07:19
cjsarettebut i reconfigure soo much i hated doing it all manually07:19
cjsarettelike Force Quit icon for example07:19
Blue1i am pretty happy with debian/wheezy07:19
ludkillerSaeedullah, it is.07:19
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Radon_3Saeedullah: well my personal suggestion would be to just jump in there brother, no waste of time, Get a book too, and read as you work with it, also ubuntu is not a hard thing to learn, easier than windows...07:19
Saeedullahyes07:20
ludkilleryea07:20
dw1i considered debian for a server but went with ubuntu <307:20
bekksdw1: For the sake of support lenght ;)07:20
Blue1i use both - but yeah, my servers are all debian07:20
Saeedullahhow to find book?07:20
dw1bekks: yes it is nice07:20
cjsarettei was running debian for a while but this is a new laptop.  I even had to use Ubuntu until Linux Mint would boot.  All i ended up doing was waiting, heh, and it started booting up07:21
Blue1linux in a nutshell is a good start - it's basically man in a book07:21
Saeedullahi have already installed in my pc07:21
cjsarettei also had a problem with the bug tracker.  I decided to send in a bug report; thinking it would be a good thing and it would help.  All it did was toast my ubuntu, hehe07:21
Saeedullahnow i want to learn prictcally07:21
bekkscjsarette: The bug tracker toasted your Ubuntu?07:21
ludkillerSaeedullah, it is pretty easy.07:21
Radon_3Saeedullah: you know about Google and amazon right? Also there are bunch free good materials available on the web, like this one: http://debian-handbook.info/get/07:22
cjsaretteits where I'm located07:22
rundll32dw1: i want to boot darwin with ubuntu and arch which loader is best ?07:22
cjsaretteim in this place in wyoming where they sorta have me trapped07:22
cjsarettewhat i do isn't exactly what happens07:22
cjsaretteits messed up07:22
cfhowlettSaeedullah you keep asking this question and keep ignoring the advice to read the free book that will teach you07:22
cfhowlettSaeedullah http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks07:22
dw1rundll32: any i guess. dont know07:22
bekksrundll32: Which hardware do you have?07:22
cjsaretteyeah my computer got caught in the wave07:22
rundll32bekks: intel x86.07:23
Saeedullahcfhowlett okay07:23
Saeedullahbrother07:23
bekksrundll32: Make and model? Apple by chance?07:23
Saeedullahwhat is cross platform means?07:24
rundll32bekks: compaq presario dektop pc,07:24
Saeedullahubuntu working in cross platform07:24
bekksrundll32: So you are trying to boot OSX on non-Apple-hardware?07:24
Radon_3cfhowlett: thanks for the link brother07:24
Saeedullahit means ?07:24
bekksSaeedullah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-platform07:24
cfhowlettRadon_3 enjoy07:24
Radon_3Saeedullah: ubuntu is a platform (-ish) itself already man07:25
rundll32i want darwin to boot with other two.07:25
bekksRadon_3: thats not true ;)07:25
Radon_3bekks: really???07:25
Radon_3why not?07:25
bekksRadon_3: Ubuntu is "just" a linux flavor, not a platform.07:25
ludkillerchameleon with grub , rundll3207:25
Radon_3well linux is a platform, isn't it?07:25
ludkillerchameleon & grub07:25
Saeedullahok07:26
rundll32bekks: thanks.07:26
ludkillerI can't recall but yes I did triple boot it07:26
bekksRadon_3: Linux is, Ubuntu isnt - technically. :)07:26
Radon_3bekks: which some how makes ubuntu a platform (-ish) kind of thing... ;)07:26
bekksRadon_3: Nope...07:27
Radon_3ok, my hands are in the air, I surrender, Ubuntu is not a platform, not even a platformish kind of thing, I am sorry, please don't crusify me... :)07:28
rundll32bekks: what is your openion ?07:28
bekksrundll32: On what?07:28
cfhowlett!ot07:28
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:28
ludkillerrundll32, try chameleon and grub07:28
bekksrundll32: Do you want to run OSX on non-Apple hardware?07:28
ludkillerthere are plenty of resources out there which can help you out07:28
rundll32bekks: nope.07:29
rundll32bekks: i want darwin to run with arch and ubuntu.07:29
cfhowlettrundll32 might want to ask ##linux07:30
Radon_3I gotta go, IRC freaks me the hell out.....07:30
cjsaretteanyways to extend upon my wave comment since most of you think i am going crazy.  I have a big experiment for you guys.  It usually makes me end up finding hidden updates.  Think of it as reaching the far corners of the internet.  After a time or two things even out on your computer as it is leveling out in cyberspace.07:31
cjsaretteObtain, write, purchase, or use a gui to rapidly connect to as many VPN's around the world as you can07:31
cjsarettecheck for updates at the same time and viola you find the hidden updates.  It sounds bogus i know07:31
bekksrundll32: could you provide the download link for darwin, since it isnt OSX and is opensource according to wikipedia?07:31
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cjsarettei usually end up having to ride the VPN waves just covering up my tracks and i stumbled upon this07:32
ludkiller...07:32
cjsarettei would run the script, and then after updating i would find a hidden dump, usually over 500MB07:33
cjsaretteanyways im an old trader so i know i sound ridiculous07:34
bekkscjsarette: I am wondering when you will come back to Ubuntu support issues again.07:34
bekks!ot | cjsarette07:34
ubottucjsarette: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:34
cjsaretteim done writing07:34
federicociao07:40
federicociao a tutti07:40
federicox man07:40
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Muscularfemaledoes ubuntu work on windows xp?07:47
cfhowlettMuscularfemale no.07:48
cfhowlettMuscularfemale wait - maybe07:48
cfhowlettMuscularfemale if you install virtualbox in windows, then you can install ubuntu to virtualbox07:48
Blue1cfhowlett: wasn't there a ubuntu that ran under windows?07:49
cfhowlettBlue1 wubi = no longer supported and inadvised in any case07:49
Muscularfemalebut cant i put that iso under a pen drive and run from there?07:49
Blue1cfhowlett: ahh that's what I was thinking of -- I didn't know it was no longer supported07:49
Muscularfemaleor if required then boot from it?07:49
aaparellacfhowlett: How long has that been the case?07:50
cfhowlettMuscularfemale yes but that means it's NOT running through XP, right?07:50
Blue1Muscularfemale: http://pkill-9.com/ubuntu-go-installing-linux-usb-flash-drive/07:50
cfhowlettaaparella since win8.107:50
cory8092Hello, i current have a Linksys WUSB54GC v1, on windows its runs perfectly, however under linux i barely get a signal.07:50
cory8092I can't even get a webpage to load.07:51
aaparellacfhowlett: Is it still supported for older versions of Window?07:51
aaparellaWindows*07:51
Blue1cory8092: what type of lan card do you have?07:51
cfhowlettaaparella yes07:51
cory8092Blue1: This is a USB device. I do have a WMP110 plugged into the same machine, but dont use it.07:51
aaparellaThanks cfhowlett!07:52
cfhowlettaaparella still a huge PITA though, thus my suggestion of windows + virtualbox + ubuntu07:52
Blue1new one on me07:52
Holtyz!nfs07:54
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.07:54
Blue1cory8092: this looks fairly straightforward.  have you tried this?  http://rewiv.com/blog/2008/09/08/how-to-install-your-linksys-wmp110-wireless-gn-card-on-linux/07:54
cory8092Blue1: I'm not trying to use the WMP110. I am using the Linksys WUSB54GC v1 USB for wifi07:55
caniscan anyone help me to mount .iso file into usb in ubuntu 12.04?07:56
cfhowlettcanis for making a bootable USB?07:56
Blue1canis: http://pkill-9.com/mounting-an-iso9660-iso-file-in-linux-ubuntudebian/07:57
Blue1cory8092: my bad07:57
canisyes07:57
caniscan i do this with startup disk creator?07:57
cfhowlettcanis unetbootin or startup disk creator are the tools for that07:57
Gerowencanis: 1) Format the USB as FAT32 using the "Disks" utility. 2) Install unetbootin and use that to create a bootable USB from an ISO.  The startup disk creator has given me issues before and unetbootin always works.07:58
Gerowencanis: You can install unetbootin with "sudo apt-get install unetbootin" and afterward it will appear in the menu.07:58
Blue1cory8092: let me clarify you are NOT using the wmp110 but a WUSB54GC right?07:59
cory8092Blue1: Yes07:59
Blue1ok07:59
cory8092Blue1: It's like dropping the connection. While on windows i have no problem getting a signal. Once im on ubuntu the signal strength drops out and wont even allow me to connect.08:00
canishow can i take backup of installed software in ubuntu12.04?08:00
Blue1cory8092: you could try:  http://jefim.wordpress.com/2007/07/24/how-to-linksys-wusb54gc-wireless-and-ubuntu-linux-704-feisty/08:01
cfhowlett!backup|canis08:01
ubottucanis: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning08:01
canisonly installed software like skype etc08:01
canisno i don't mean to take backup of entire system  i just wanna backup my installed software08:02
Blue1canis: you can try this:  http://pkill-9.com/simple-rsync-backuprestore-bash-scripts-for-ubuntudebian/08:02
xuzaxweird, hi everyone, does anyone know anything about theme designing or inapp overclocking?08:03
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letstrythishow can  i make sure ubuntu properly setup my intel gma 4500's 2 gb of shared system memory and 128mb deedicaed?08:04
xuzaxlets, that should happen automatically08:05
xuzaxbutt id search graphics monitor08:05
letstrythishmm let me look for this gpu monitor?08:06
xuzaxor graphics info application08:06
xuzaxtheres gotta be one08:06
rundll32bekks: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwin-701.iso.gz08:07
xuzaxthanks @valerie :-)'08:07
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Blue1xuzax: you can generally do:  lspci | grep VGA to find out the graphics card08:07
xuzaxbro for some reason thinks linux didnt set his card up right08:08
rundll32bekks: here you go ....08:09
xuzaxbut idk, my intel card is set perfectly,08:09
xuzaxthese irc chats are kinda crazy btw08:09
Blue1xuzax: you can check /etc/X11/xorg.conf  -- if there isn't one then it's probably using default drivers (which isnt always a bad thing)08:09
rundll32http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwin-701.iso.gz08:10
xuzaxlets needs to read that @blue108:10
xuzaxis there anyway to tag someones name to where they get notified?08:10
bazhang!tab | xuzax08:11
ubottuxuzax: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:11
Blue1beat me to it08:11
Blue1well folks it's happy trails time for me -- nytol08:12
xuzaxhmm im confuzed08:12
xuzaxi dont thin its working for me08:12
xuzaxyou type name then hit tab?08:12
bubu1ukor part of name08:13
aaparellaYou type the persons name, not the word name08:13
xuzaxi know08:13
xuzaxbut when i hit tab my cursor disapears lol08:13
aaparellaoh, sorry ._.08:13
xuzaxlike you would think it was supposed to08:13
xuzaxi know why08:15
bubu1ukxuzax, you use webchat?08:15
xuzaxim in a browser window08:15
xuzaxhaha yep08:15
xuzaxwhat do you use for irc?08:15
bubu1ukxuzax, xchat, irssi08:15
xuzaxkonversation any good?08:16
aaparellairss++, using it right now, love it08:16
aaparellairssi*08:16
xuzax1sweet08:17
xuzax1bubu1uk,08:17
xuzax1i see now08:17
xuzax1so web chat actually isnt that much different08:18
xuzax1anyone know any cool linux tweaks, like conky or something08:19
vigneshHello08:20
xuzax1hello vignesh08:20
vigneshHow to install umax tv tuner card08:20
xuzax1thats a good question08:20
vigneshubuntu 14.0408:20
alhosni#zyzoom08:20
xuzax1i will have to do some research08:21
cfhowlettxuzax1 http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/08:21
vigneshthank you xuzax108:21
xuzax1um cf?08:21
xuzax1it wont let me click08:22
cfhowlettxuzax1 copy/past the link to your browser08:22
xuzax1i got it nice site thanks08:23
vigneshanyone know how to install umax tv tuner card08:27
rundll32bekks:.08:28
xuzax1@vignesh08:30
xuzax1http://blog.prashanthellina.com/2008/03/23/watching-television-on-linux-setting-up-a-tv-tuner-card/08:30
xuzax1idk if that will help08:30
xuzax1goodnight everyone it was nice08:31
shane_woah08:32
vigneshThanks and good night xuzax108:32
shane_how is everyone, anyone have any ubuntu questions08:33
Radon_3hi folks, I have set up an internal mail service thingy so that I would recieve internal important emails, now I have recieved an email from 'Anacron' that says: http://tny.cz/d770a6c5 and when I run sudo apt-get install libgmp3c2 I get http://tny.cz/c0437f72, what should I do?08:33
shane_there was a person that used the user name of xuzax here :-008:33
shane_thas kinda crazy aswell08:34
Radon_3any ideas08:34
Radon_3?08:35
shane_tell him to try update and retry what he wants radon08:35
Radon_3Should I run apt-get autoremove??08:35
Radon_3they seem like important packages08:35
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etfbI'm seeing something odd.  I used to be able to ssh into one of my home computers from inside the home, now I can't - but I can still ssh in using the external IP and the port-forwarded port number.  Is it possible that a recent upgrade disabled my ssh access internally but not externally?  How would that even work?08:36
shane_the onlyxuzax i ever heard of was an extreme hacker :/08:36
shane_thats extremely odd etfb08:37
etfbConnection is refused even using the other port.  Very weird.08:38
shane_i dont understand why or how that would be possible, if anything it should be the opposit, to desable externally and not internally08:38
shane_man08:39
Radon_3what is this libgmp3c2 package anyways?08:40
Radon_3what does it do?08:40
shane_GNU MP is a programmer's library for arbitrary precision arithmetic08:41
Radon_3shane_: do I need it?08:42
shane_* cjsarette (~cjsarette@67-134-54-115.dia.static.qwest.net) has joined #ubuntu08:42
shane_(ie, a bignum package). It can operate on signed integer, rational, and floating point numeric types.08:42
shane_It has a rich set of functions, and the functions have a regular interface08:42
shane_prob not08:43
shane_/usr/lib/libgmp.so.308:43
shane_/usr/lib/libgmp.so.3.5.208:43
shane_/usr/lib/libmp.so.308:43
shane_/usr/lib/libmp.so.3.1.1608:43
shane_/usr/share/doc/libgmp3c2/README.Debian08:43
shane_/usr/share/doc/libgmp3c2/TODO.Debian08:43
unopasteshane_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted08:43
Radon_3shane_: this all happened after I installed some other packages about libc6... should I revert them?08:44
shane_thats the packages inside08:44
shane_i would if i were you08:45
shane_if its causing you issues08:45
shane_going offline, bye08:46
knight``Radon_3: what's wrong then?08:48
Radon_3knight``: that email08:48
bekksRadon_3: Which email?08:48
Radon_3http://tny.cz/d770a6c5 and http://tny.cz/c0437f7208:48
Radon_3don't know what to do08:48
Radon_3http://tny.cz/d770a6c5 and http://tny.cz/c0437f7208:49
bekksRadon_3: Well. WHY do you install something when you are saying "I dont know what to do"? :)08:49
bekksRadon_3: Do you have a 64bit or 32bit Ubuntu?08:50
Radon_3bekks: I have a 64bit system08:52
bekksRadon_3: Then you can safely uninstall all those unneede 32bit dependencies.08:53
Radon_3bekks: and should I install libgmp3c2?08:53
bekksRadon_3: No. But you already did.08:54
Radon_3bekks: Can you not be cryptic please?08:54
Radon_3:(08:54
bekksRadon_3: Read your second paste, and see that libgmp3c2 has just been installed.08:54
bekksRadon_3: First line of that paste.08:55
Radon_3Yeah, but I said n to that installation, now i am going to repeat that and say Y this time08:56
bekksNO.08:56
Radon_3NO?? what?08:56
Radon_3I am scared right now08:56
Radon_3holding my breath08:56
bekksRadon_3: Then dont press random keys as answers to questions. And calm down.08:56
Radon_3ok, what should I do?08:57
bekksa) The package is already installed. b) You did that. c) apt-get tells you to remove unneeded dependencies d) those are still installed e) those can safely be removed.08:57
Radon_3so i am running apt-get autoremove??08:57
Radon_3is that right?08:58
bekksf) the command to install the package will NOT remove packages. g) your second paste tells you the command to remove the dependencies unneeded.08:58
flux242Hi, does somebody know what process is listening udp port 37734? It's visible with the netstat -uap09:00
bekksflux242: sudo lsof -i09:01
flux242nope09:01
Radon_3flux242: I guess netstat -tupan should tell you09:01
flux242nope09:02
bekksflux242: What does "nope" mean in terms of "sudo lsof -i"?09:02
Radon_3flux242: "netstat -tupan"09:02
Radon_3sorry, if I forgot "s09:02
bekksyou have to use sudo for netstat as well.09:03
_2_Alexis there any one from Manchester09:03
Radon_3bekks: Also when I run "sudo apt-get update" it down't seem to be updating today, it just lists a couple of Htts and then nothing is recieved09:04
Radon_3is canonical closed on holidays?09:04
flux242look, I wouldn't ask if it would be so easy. Neither lsof nor netstat shows process name09:04
bekksRadon_3: "apt-get update" never shows any updates. Use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" afterwards-09:04
flux242udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:37734           0.0.0.0:*                           -09:05
Radon_3bekks: no man, I mean "update" used to use my Internet connection  a little bit to download stuff, but today it seems it is getting nothing.09:05
bekksflux242: Whats the output of "sudo lsof -i"?09:06
Radon_3flux242: oh, those devilish things, Imyself think they must be NSA'a09:06
Radon_3flux242: oh, those devilish things, Imyself think they must be NSA's09:06
bekksRadon_3: And whats the problem with that? Do you pay Canonical to provide updates on an early sunday morning? :)09:06
Radon_3bekks: nope, sorry, didn't mean to imply that ofcourse09:07
Radon_3but funny09:07
Radon_3:)09:07
flux242bekks: what do you think does it show?09:07
Radon_3flux242: I have them too, I think they are used to spy on people, like from NSA09:08
flux242Radon_3: i see your point. Now go away09:08
canisplz help me when i use Unetbootin in ubuntu when i try to browse iso file it didn't show09:08
Radon_3government things, don't bother i guess09:08
canisjust show computer inside it there is no drive?09:08
canispzl help me09:08
bekksflux242: It doesnt matter what I think it shows - it only matters what it shows to you.09:08
Radon_3flux242: what did i do to you?/?09:09
bekksRadon_3: Stop the nonsense now. Thank you.09:09
Radon_3ok09:09
flux242bekks: it should matter because it only shows opened or closed tcp connections.09:10
bekksflux242: It shows listening ports, too.09:11
bekksflux242: So will you pastebin it or not?09:11
flux242bekks: no09:11
Radon_3bekks: shall I pastebin mine? If it is not considered intrudence?09:11
bekksflux242: Good luck then in finding someone who will help you.09:11
flux242np09:12
knight``Radon_3: i think there's no updated index in the server, so nothing has to be downloaded of course. you don't need to  update every 5 minutes09:12
bekksRadon_3: Did I talk to you? No. Your output of lsof is useless to the problem of flux242.09:12
Radon_3I am so unhappy, I am gonna cry for a while, sorry if I am bothering you all, bye09:12
flux242ah, with sudo it shows more09:13
ronaldsmazitisRadon_3: I am unhappy also, as I have no place to live09:13
cfhowlettronaldsmazitis stop now.09:13
ronaldsmazitis+ NO security, money, property job09:13
cfhowlett!ot|ronaldsmazitis09:13
ronaldsmazitiscfhowlett: why?09:13
ubotturonaldsmazitis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:13
ronaldsmazitisohhh09:13
bekksflux242: Thats why I told you to use "sudo lsof -i". And according to the man page of lsof, it shows TCP and UDP.09:13
ronaldsmazitistopics, using ubuntu doesn't help it09:13
red45923ubuntu permissions: i want to edit a config file but i need to be root to do it but i'd like to leave the file ownership on the file the same as it was before i edited it, is there a way to do that?09:13
cfhowlett!guidelines|ronaldsmazitis09:14
ubotturonaldsmazitis: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines09:14
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ronaldsmazitisI'm very sad ubuntu user09:15
llutzred45923: sudo nano /path/file09:15
ronaldsmazitisguidelines09:15
cfhowlettronaldsmazitis stay on topic = ubuntu support question.  NOT personal issues09:15
lestercGuys - I feel embarrassing need help for this - I used to use nfsv3 a lot but for some reason I could not get it working again with my home machines. Can someone give me a hand?09:17
cfhowlett!info nfsv309:17
ubottuPackage nfsv3 does not exist in trusty09:17
lestercI'm trying setup nfsv4 following the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto#NFSv4_without_Kerberos09:17
bekkslesterc: "could not get" is pretty generic. What are you doing, what doesnt work, throwing which errors?09:18
lestercyeah bekks I'll be specific - got kids at the back.. :) `showmount -e' and mount from the client machine simply timedout.09:20
bekkslesterc: So the NFS server isnt running. Or it is blocked by a firewall.09:22
lestercbekks: both client and server machines are pretty vanilla ubuntu trusty setup with no firewall09:22
bekkslesterc: By default, there is a firewall ;)09:22
lestercoh right ufw yeah?09:22
* lesterc checks09:22
bekksyes09:22
cfhowlettlesterc there is a firewall but it's not enabled09:22
caniswhen i use unetbootin it stuck at 5% what to do?09:24
cfhowlettcanis for how long?09:24
canisfor about 15 min09:24
lestercufw is off. `iptables-save returns nothing on both machines.09:24
bekkslesterc: sudo iptables -L -vnx09:24
cfhowlettcanis any popups?  you have to authorize a couple of times for th unetbootin to complete its works09:25
Radon_3couldn't cry :)09:25
bekksRadon_3: Hopefully you stay ontopic now.09:25
canisno any popups09:25
red45923thx llutz09:25
Radon_3you got it chief09:25
lestercbekks: poicy==accept for all chains with no rules.09:25
bekkslesterc: Then iptables isnt running. Well, your NFS server isnt running.09:26
lesterc`pgrep nfs` returns 11 pids so I think it's running.09:27
lesterc`showmount -e` on the server works as expected.09:28
lestercwhat else should I check? :)09:28
canisunetbootin stuck what to do?09:28
chaotixhi...  what is the shell command to set the ip address back to an automatic ip from a fixed ip?09:29
lesterccanis: are you creating the usb drive or what?09:29
chaotixi needed to temporarily set it to fixed to set up my ddwrt as client mode, and now i need to switch back to auto ip09:30
cfhowlettcanis did you very the ISO?09:30
canisi am going to create bootable usb drive?09:30
lestercchaotix: /etc/network/interfaces09:30
bekkslesterc: we are talking about nfs3, are we?09:30
lestercbekks: I'm setting up nfsv4 but I don't mind if I can get v3 working again.... (I couldn't)09:30
canisi am going to create usb bootable ?09:30
chaotixlesterc, i used the ifconfig command, i did not edit /etc/network/interfaces09:30
chaotixi did ifconfig etho 192.168.1.709:31
chaotixnow i need to go back to automatic09:31
bekkschaotix: sudo dhclient eth009:31
canisi am going to install 14.04LTS i have already downloaded .iso file now i need to make usb bootable09:31
bekkslesterc: So disable/undo all that NFSv4 stuff :)09:31
cfhowlettcanis DID = YOU = VERIFY = THE = ISO?09:32
cfhowlett!md5sum > canis09:32
ubottucanis, please see my private message09:32
chaotixthanks, bekks09:32
canishow to verify09:32
knight```canis: why don't you use the 'usb-creator-gtk' which is part of standard installation instead?09:32
chaotixbekks, it is still 192.168.1.7 after "sudo dhclient etho"09:33
llutzchaotix: sudo service network-manager restart09:34
bekkschaotix: So thats the IP you got from your DHCP server.09:34
dw1chaotix: you could try ifdown eth0; ifup eth009:34
dracnoccanis: as well as checking the md5 on your iso, can you also run unetbootin from a terminal - 'sudo unetbootin' to see if any error messages pop up? that might give you some idea as to why it gets stuck09:34
cfhowlett!md5sum|canis09:34
ubottucanis: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows09:34
canisyes i can run unetbootin from terminal09:35
bekkscanis: Test the ISO first.09:36
canishow to test iso?09:36
canishaving problem in testing iso09:36
bekkscanis: you have been told three times now how to test the ISO.09:36
cfhowlettcanis  it really helps if you read the links people send you - unless you're just here to play games/waste time09:37
canisok i will go and read09:37
canishow to go to directory where my iso file is from terminal?09:39
dracnoccanis: which folder is it in?09:39
canisit is in my E drive09:40
Radon_3canis: press Ctrl + Alt + T, on your keyboard, what do you see?09:40
dracnoccanis: E drive? are you on windows?09:40
bekksRadon_3: He is using Windows.09:40
dracnocahhh....09:40
Radon_3WOW09:40
canisi saw canis@canis-G31D-m709:40
canisno i am not on windows09:41
Radon_3canis: well ok, install hashtab on windows09:41
dracnoccanis: ignore everything i said, i assumed you were running in ubuntu, those commands won't work in windows :(09:41
bekkscanis: On linux, there is no E driver.09:41
bekks*drive09:41
cfhowlettcanis  no "e" drive in ubuntu09:41
Radon_3canis: what operating system are you using man?09:42
canisi mean i have seperate volume named Software backup09:42
Cute_Shelly21hey... I ran into some trouble :(09:42
canisi am using ubuntu 12.0409:42
cfhowlettcanis post a screenshot09:42
cfhowlett!paste| canis09:42
ubottucanis: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:42
bekkscanis: Turn around, and run out of them ;)09:42
Radon_3well, then press Ctl + Alt + T what do you see??09:42
canishow to take screenshot09:42
bekkscanis: Which Operating System are you using right now?09:43
cfhowlettcanis keyboard "PrntScrn" key09:43
canisubuntu 12.0409:43
Cute_Shelly21i was trying to copy stuff from my pen drive to a HDD09:43
dracnoccanis: there's a button on your keyboard that says 'PtrScr' or something very similar, usually in the top-right corner of your keyboard. Press it.09:43
canisok09:44
canisi have done09:44
canisnow what09:44
cfhowlett!paste | canis09:44
ubottucanis: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:44
dracnocyou should have a shot of your screen, if nothing comes up, you should be able to find it in your Home folder. open your file manager and take a look.09:44
Radon_3canis: now if you are using ubuntu 12.04 a screen must appear asking you where to save the screeen shot man09:44
Cute_Shelly21someone please help me!!!09:44
Cute_Shelly21I am in a lot of trouble!! :(09:44
canisyes i have saved09:45
Cute_Shelly21i was trying to copy stuff from my pen drive to a HDD09:45
vifinoCute_Shelly21: What is?09:45
bekksCute_Shelly21: and...?09:45
Radon_3Cute_Shelly21: ask a question first, what is the issue?09:45
Cute_Shelly21i mistakenly did "cp <file> /dev/sda509:45
vifino...09:45
Cute_Shelly21now I think my block file has become corrupted09:45
Cute_Shelly21and I cannot access that partition09:45
Cute_Shelly21is there a way of fixing it without having to partition it09:46
Cute_Shelly21???09:46
vifinoI think not.09:46
Cute_Shelly21it was of 250 GB and I had a lot of important documents in there09:46
Radon_3canis: now upload the screen shot to this website: http://postimage.org/09:46
dw1Cute_Shelly21: :(09:46
canisok09:46
canishttp://imagebin.org/31019109:47
Radon_3That is if you can use nautilus09:47
canisdid u see that?09:47
dracnoccanis: yes, i can see it here09:47
cfhowlettcanis yes.  open a terminal.  drag and drop the ISO into the terminal for the md5sum command09:47
dw1Cute_Shelly21: really the best you can do is recover what hasnt been written with a recovery tool... but the filenames wont be recovered :/09:48
dw1Cute_Shelly21: i think.09:48
Radon_3canis: yes the whole world did actually, now you have to type this in your terminal window: cd ..09:48
Cute_Shelly21how??09:48
Radon_3again cd ..09:48
Cute_Shelly21am new at this...09:48
dw1Cute_Shelly21: it will be a big mess, the filenames wont be there09:48
canisjust drag and enter09:49
DazaxBien le bonjour!09:49
Cute_Shelly21dw1: that's because the block file has gotten corrupted isn't it??09:49
cfhowlett!fr|Dazax09:49
ubottuDazax: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.09:49
Radon_3canis: or do exactly as cfhowlett is telling you it is much simpler09:49
canisit says permision denied09:49
vifinoCute_Shelly21: The files are there, atleast some of them, but the filenames wont.09:49
dw1Cute_Shelly21: im not an expert but yeah sounds about right09:49
dw1what are the best recovery apps people09:49
canisyes i have drag now what to do09:49
Radon_3canis: can you please upload a picture of your terminal window as well?09:49
cfhowlettcanis in the terminal:  "md5sum"   then drag and drop the iso09:49
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ed__hi, is this the right place to get help with installing hardware on ubunt?09:50
canisyes i have done it09:50
canisnow what to do09:50
Ben64ed__: depends what you mean exactly09:51
dw1Cute_Shelly21: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html09:51
cfhowlettcanis press enter09:51
cfhowletted__ ask09:51
canisyes i have press enter09:51
canisand i saw c4d4d037 like this09:51
canisso long09:51
dracnoccanis: that long set of letters/number should be the same as what is on the ubuntu website. if they're different, you download is bad.09:52
vifinoed__: Dont ask to ask, just do it!09:52
Radon_3canis: you seem fine, but check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes09:52
h3r1hello there... i have a strange issue with samba shared folders... some folders are always accessible while otheres are only accessible (visible) after accessing the server via ssh... could anybody help me?09:52
Cute_Shelly21what are the best recovery apps09:53
ed__ok guys, i have latest xubuntu on cf19 laptop with working sierra wireless 8780 3g /gps card but im not finding the nmea stream that should be on a virtual serial port. i think it should be a virtual tty device. works on xp09:53
paolo__ls -all09:53
canisyes09:53
canisit is verified09:53
canisnow what to do09:53
cfhowlett!recovery | pao09:53
ubottupao: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"09:53
canisthe downloaded iso file is completely download09:54
canisno any error09:54
canisnow whose problem unbootin?09:54
Voyageis there a package in ubuntu that I can use for tortoisesvn?09:54
dracnoccanis: good. you download was ok. use 'sudo unetbootin' in that terminal and try to install on the memory stick again. see if any error messages come up in the terminal09:54
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canisthanks a lot for helping me09:55
canisit works09:55
canisnow i am going to reboot09:55
Radon_3canis: why don't you use start up disk creator built in ubuntu? it is awesome09:55
cfhowletth3r1 might want to ask the #ubuntu-server channel09:55
dw1Cute_Shelly21: sudo apt-get install testdisk09:56
canissome says that it doesn't seem work that's why i use unbootin09:56
h3r1cfhowlett thanks, i will09:56
dw1Cute_Shelly21: then sudo testdisk09:56
cfhowlettcanis wait, you didn't even TRY startup disk creator?09:56
Radon_3ok,09:56
dw1Cute_Shelly21: seems to be one of the best apps09:57
dw1Cute_Shelly21: details @ http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk09:57
Radon_3canis: startup disk creator never crashed or disturbed anything for me, but it is again your choise man, nothing to do about that go ahead with the reboot09:59
h3r1cfhowlett there seems to be no activity at the #ubuntu-server channel...10:00
cfhowletth3r1 tsk.  that happens sometimes.10:00
rannohello guys10:01
rannoi really need someones elp10:01
rannohelp10:01
dracnocranno: just ask10:01
cfhowlett!ASKrann10:01
cfhowlett\10:01
rannoi believe my ubuntu server got hacked a few hours ago10:01
Radon_3ranno: ok we will, what is the problem?10:01
cfhowlett!server| ranno10:01
ubotturanno: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server10:01
Cute_Shelly21dw1: thanks a lot10:01
ed__ok guys, i have latest xubuntu on cf19 laptop with working sierra wireless 8780 3g /gps card but im not finding the nmea stream that should be on a virtual serial port. i think it should be a virtual tty device. works on xp10:02
llutzranno: if you think that, take it down, make a disk-dump, investigate then10:02
rannoi have a digitalocean droplet with ubuntu 12.0410:03
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ranno8 hours ago i received an email from DO support10:03
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rannoWe've had to unfortunately reboot your Droplet graafik due to an issue on the underlying physical node where the Droplet runs.10:04
dw1Cute_Shelly21: bad situation... good luck10:04
rannoports were turned off10:04
ranno80, 443, 2210:04
rannono ssh access10:04
rannoso i managed to login via DO online console10:04
MonkeyDustranno  type /j #ubuntu-server10:04
llutz!enter | ranno10:05
Radon_3ranno: contanct the cmpany then I guess.10:05
llutzgrrr still gone, ranno explain your stuff on one line, don't use enter every to words10:05
sabayonuser2hi, is there any image viewer for gnome that allows viewing psd files (like kde's gwenview)?10:05
Radon_3sabayonuser2: have you tried okular?10:06
sabayonuser2Radon_3: isn't it a kde app?10:06
dw1sabayonuser2: you could always apt-get install gwenview :)10:06
schartz<sabayonuser2>: or simply use gimp10:06
sabayonuser2dw1: yep, going to see what the download size would be10:07
Radon_3sabayonuser2: it works in unity.... (I am a totaly newbe)10:07
dw1sabayonuser2: 15M :P10:07
dw1sabayonuser2: uncompressed10:07
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sabayonuser2schartz: i can also use libre office draw but it's not a viewer, neither is gimp10:07
Radon_3sabayonuser2: I think we also don't happen to find a psd viewer for windows easily too10:08
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sabayonuser2Radon_3: ifranview. and there's a bunch of others. but im just looking for a gtk app for the job )10:09
schartzpsd is not supposed to be any "image viewing" format either10:09
Radon_3schartz: thank you.10:10
sabayonuser2ok, never mind, thanks, going to google more or will just use a kde app for it10:10
Radon_3schartz: I was trying to say that but didn't know how10:10
drewdfbi on a terminal does not seem to open large pdf files is it a bug?10:11
schartzRadon_3:    (:10:12
dracnocdrewd: fbi uses imagemagick to convert the pdf into something viewable. imagemagick is not the quickest program in the world at conversion, so large files may take a long time to display.10:13
dracnocdrewd: unless you're getting an error message, i would just wait to see what happens :S10:14
drewddracnoc: i guess a little patience will do the trick10:14
dracnocdrewd: what is the filesize on the pdf?10:15
drewdabout 2Mb10:15
dracnocdrewd: oh, that shouldn't be a problem, not even on old hardware. do you see any error messages?10:16
Radon_3I got a question, where do apt-get, and dpkg store their logs? do they do it at all?10:16
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dracnocRadon_3: /var/log/dpkg.log ?10:16
drewddracnoc: nope10:17
Radon_3dracnoc: thank you, and what about apt-get?10:17
dracnocRadon_3: ignore my last. try in /var/log/apt/history.log10:17
Radon_3dracnoc: thanks a million10:18
Guest21025How can i install a software through terminal in ubuntu 12.04? I have downloaded the .targz file, what should i do to install this?10:18
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dracnocno probs. you might also find a few .gz archives in /var/log/apt as well if you have a long history10:18
drewddracnoc: loading xyz.pdf ...10:19
osseGuest21025: there is no general answer. Extract it and see if there's a README or INSTALL file10:19
Radon_3no .gz fies, still young :)10:19
Radon_3a kid if you will10:19
dracnocdrewd: open another terminal and the the 'top' command. see if 'convert' is running, should be at the top of the list10:20
dracnocand try the 'top' command*10:20
MonkeyDustor htop10:20
dracnocRadon_3: :) - don't worry, they'll soon turn up10:20
drewddracnoc: just worked :) i  was just impatient10:20
Guest21025osse, yes but I am trying it in terminal, 'the directory is not found' is displaying10:21
osseGuest21025: trying what? what produced that error?10:21
ed__ok guys, i have latest xubuntu on cf19 laptop with working sierra wireless 8780 3g /gps card but im not finding the nmea stream that should be on a virtual serial port. i think it should be a virtual tty device. works on xp10:22
dracnocdrewed: well... and he's gone10:22
* dracnoc shrugs10:22
SaeedullahHello All Friend10:24
llutzed__: check "dmesg" for any related info on that device10:25
Saeedullahwhat is the main fucntion of the kernel?10:25
llutzed__: most likely pseudo-USB devices like /dev/ttyUSB*10:26
osseSaeedullah: making sure that software can use the hardware10:27
Saeedullahosse yes10:27
llutzed__: no PMs please10:28
Saeedullahhow to use hardware the kernel?10:28
Saeedullahis a kernel a program?10:28
ed__soory im not used to irc10:28
ed__shall i pastie anything?10:29
llutzed__: pastebin "dmesg" output please10:29
llutzed__: and "ls -l /dev/ttyÜ*"10:29
Saeedullahwho can help me?10:30
osseSaeedullah: try ##linux for general linux questions10:30
osseSaeedullah: yes the kernel is a program10:31
ossebut written in a very special way10:31
MonkeyDust!kernel10:31
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)10:31
Saeedullahtnx brtoher10:32
Saeedullahcan i see the kernel file in ubuntu?10:32
dracnocSaeedullah: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/10:33
bekksSaeedullah: What do you want to see from that file?10:33
bekksdracnoc: thats the mainline kernel, not a supported one ;)10:33
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llutzed__: and are you sure the 8780 does support nmea at all? most of those devices need special drivers for translation into nmea which you probably won't find for linux10:34
dracnocbekks: it'll give him something to play with ;)10:34
Saeedullahi want to see the code of kernel file?10:34
Saeedullahbekks i want to see the code of kernel file?10:34
bekksSaeedullah: It is far more than 2 million lines of code. Take some decades for reading it.10:34
ed__llutz: now pasting. yes its nmea supported. gps is ok in winxp10:34
bekksSaeedullah: What do you want to see in there?10:35
llutzed__: winxp uses nmea-port driver i'd guess10:35
llutzed__: _that_ is the piece of software translating proprietary input from device into readable NMEA-stream on virtual tty10:36
MonkeyDustSaeedullah  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile   <-- scrol down to 'get the kernel source'10:36
bekksSaeedullah: Do you have a specific Ubuntu issue with the kernel involved?10:37
ed__llutz. paste is demanding less than 64k! im not sure if its firmware, i need help on it10:37
Saeedullahdear10:37
Saeedullahno10:37
llutzed__: run "dmesg|pastebinit"10:37
Saeedullahi just want to know how is it work in operating system10:38
llutzed__: you might need "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" before10:38
bekksSaeedullah: It will take years to understand that. Start with using Ubuntu first.10:38
ed__llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7446583/10:39
ed__thats so cool10:40
llutzed__: "sudo modprobe sierra && ls -l /dev/ttyU*" any output10:45
ed__llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7446607/10:47
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llutzed__: try minicom to manually work with those ttyUSB? devices, check if one of them gives some usefull output back10:50
llutzed__: try to get a response to the commands shown at http://sierra-linux.wikia.com/wiki/AT_commands10:51
llutzed__: but as said before, i doubt you will get a nmea-stream from that device under linux, because there is no software for that10:52
KrishnamurtiI'm using vim in ubuntu,today i install a vimim in order to input chinese,but it doesn't work,who knows why?10:52
ed__ok, i stand advised. got to go but will be bacl later ta10:53
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Krishnamurtiis there anyone use vimim?10:54
jacki'm running a linuxmint-petra which uses ubuntu-saucy as a base10:57
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bekksjack: And which is not supported in here, since you are using Linux Mint.10:57
jackdoes anyone know if i can safely bump the base to trusty?10:58
MonkeyDustjack  better aks in the !mint channel10:58
Saeedullahhello freind10:58
Saeedullahhow to increase the copey speed in ubuntu?10:59
bekksSaeedullah: copy what from where to where?10:59
KrishnamurtiI'm a emule fun,I'd like to download and share ed2k resourse in ubuntu,which tools should i use?please not amule and mldonkey,i have tried but i unstall them11:05
bekksEmule isnt dead? Awesome.11:05
Krishnamurtibekks:why do you say so?11:06
bekksKrishnamurti: Because emule died ages ago?11:07
Krishnamurtibekks:haha,no no11:08
bekksKrishnamurti: Actually yes. You are the second user I met in ten years who is still using emule.11:08
bekksKrishnamurti: However - did you run "apt-cache search emule" yet?11:09
Krishnamurtibekks:of course i did11:10
Krishnamurtibekks:I don't like amule and mldonkey11:11
MonkeyDust!p2p | Krishnamurti is this useful11:12
ubottuKrishnamurti is this useful: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information11:12
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prasanthello11:17
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Radon_3hi everybody, how can I disable Nouveau from loading and performing a kernel modeset?11:31
Armag3dd0n1what's the link for ubuntu touch11:31
Armag3dd0n1?11:31
MonkeyDust!touch11:31
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch11:31
Radon_3https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install11:32
Armag3dd0n1thanks11:32
Radon_3folks, how should i prevent nouveau rom modesetting and loading into kernel?11:33
bekksRadon_3: Blacklist the module.11:35
bekksRadon_3: Which graphics chipset do you have exactly?11:35
nolan_hi, just to know, best to use Chrome or firefox on the 14.04 xubuntu ?11:36
Radon_3I am about to blacklist it, but after reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088675 I thought maybe it wouldn't be enough11:36
dw1nolan_: personal preference11:36
jacknolan_: i love chrome11:36
Radon_3bekks: I  am in possession of a NVIDIA Gforce G21011:36
nolan_Okey ty =)11:37
jacksmaller plus faster11:37
bekksRadon_3: G210 or G210m?11:37
Radon_3G21011:37
Radon_3no m11:37
bekksRadon_3: And which issue do you have, exactly, now?11:37
ScepticHow can I install Firefox 30 beta?11:38
bekksSceptic: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next11:38
Radon_3WEll, this might take a while, but first I tried installing the drivers provided by ubuntu itself, but they didn't work, now I want to install the driver provided by nvidia themselves, the latest version, but the installation manual says that nouveau has to be disabled completely11:39
KrishnamurtiSceptic:just update?11:41
ScepticKrishnamurti, what do You mean by "just"? I want to install and keep it fresh.11:42
MonkeyDustSceptic then follow the link bekks gave you11:42
Scepticbekks, Thank You11:42
bekksRadon_3: Do not install nvidia drivers manually unless you do know what you are doing there.11:43
bekksRadon_3: Better define "did not work" a bit more closely.11:43
Radon_3bekks: I see what could be implied by "what you are doing there" but non taken, so I want to use what my graphic card has to offer, though it is a cheap one11:44
saeedullahhello all friend11:44
saeedullahhow to find the Easiest ubuntu Guide ?11:44
bekksRadon_3: What are you talking about?11:44
MonkeyDust!manual | saeedullah start here11:44
ubottusaeedullah start here: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:44
Radon_3bekks: didn't work meaning that I onyl got a blinking cursor (xorg didn't work fine with the driver)11:45
abraxasHi, I installed 14.04 on a new drive. It didn't recognize my win 7 on sda, so i manually partitioned sdb and installed it there. It works, *BUT* I got no choice in the boot loader to boot my old win7 :-(11:45
bekks!nomodeset | Radon_311:45
ubottuRadon_3: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter11:45
Squarepyabraxas, tried reinstall/configuring grub?11:45
saeedullahdear i want to learn visually ubuntu11:45
abraxasNot yet. Wanted to ask first.11:46
Squarepydo a dear11:46
Radon_3saeedullah: still on the subject of learning?11:46
Radon_3saeedullah: Gud luck brother11:46
abraxasI also disabled UEFI since the install.11:46
saeedullahtnx radon_#11:46
abraxasWill try to reinstall grub...11:47
saeedullahdear i want to learn basically ubuntu step by step just like visuallay11:47
raspei-mehi all11:47
bekkssaeedullah: Then start reading the links given :)11:47
saeedullahmy aim the learning pictuers wise it is possible or not?11:47
llutzsaeedullah: no11:48
bekkssaeedullah: Possible it is. Useful it is not. It will take far more time than just starting to read.11:48
saeedullah this is defficult for me coze i am new one in this field http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:48
manornkHi,11:48
nodedfreehi?11:48
manornkHi, Is there Ubuntu Touch for Geeksphone Peak11:48
saeedullahgive me instruction to work in ubuntu11:49
saeedullahi just installed it but how can work in ubuntu11:49
MonkeyDustsaeedullah  learn it by using it, like you did with windows/mac11:49
bekks!manual | saeedullah just use ubuntu and start reading here:11:49
saeedullahi don't know starting from which one?11:49
ubottusaeedullah just use ubuntu and start reading here:: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:49
saeedullahit is defficult for me11:50
bekkssaeedullah: Thats part of the learning curve.11:50
saeedullahcoze i don't have idea about it11:50
bekkssaeedullah: Well, you still have to start.11:50
saeedullahok11:50
opalepatrickWHat is the simplest way to see what is on another partition so I dont format the wrong one!11:51
saeedullahit is possible to see learning pictuer wise11:51
saeedullahdid u know talk?11:51
llutzopalepatrick: mount it, check it11:51
opalepatrickok thanks llutz11:51
manornkHi, Is there Ubuntu Touch for Geeksphone Peak?11:52
llutzsaeedullah: stop the nonsense now11:52
Squarepysaeedullah, do not repeat questions please, it is already answered11:52
saeedullahohhhhhhhhh dear11:52
saeedullahi have to know the ubuntu11:52
Radon_3bekks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 is a very informative source of infomation, thank you for that, a few questions though, can I ask them?11:52
llutzsaeedullah: then learn reading first. basic skill for all you ever want to know11:53
MonkeyDustsaeedullah  yes, explore it a bit, click here and there etc11:53
bekksRadon_3: yes. just ask this channel.11:54
skfaxHow can I figure out which version of tar 12.04 has by default?11:54
llutz!info tar  precise | skfax11:54
ubottuskfax: tar (source: tar): GNU version of the tar archiving utility. In component main, is required. Version 1.26-4ubuntu1 (precise), package size 212 kB, installed size 716 kB11:54
bekksskfax: tar --version :)11:54
nodedfreeapt-get remove tar11:55
nodedfreeno need11:55
bekksnodedfree: sstop that nonsense please11:55
Radon_3OK, the following questions are about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 , and in relation with Nvidia property driver, in Ubuntu 12.04. Will the guidelines provided in that article also work for 12.04? 2-Will the options sugested in that article only prevent nouveau from modesetting once, or for ever?11:55
AceKingI wanted to put a fresh install of 14.04 32 bit on my laptop. I already have it dual booting with Windows 8. When I boot from the usb drive, and try to do a manual install, I keep getting: The partition table format in use on your disks normally requires you to create a separate partition.  I already have Ubuntu installed and dual booting fine. How can I fix this?11:56
bekksRadon_3: guess why the headings are "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS" and "How to permanently set kernel boot options on an installed OS".11:57
skfaxbekks: I'm on 14.04 at the moment, but it seems like tar 1.27 broke a Yocto build I'm trying to get running. I see that 14.04 is running 1.27.1 - Would it be easy to just downgrade tar? I was considering just installing 12.04 since it's a virtual machine11:58
cactuswizardAceKing: you could try formatting the partition in win 8 and then try again11:58
skfaxllutz: That was a pretty sweet bot function :)11:58
Radon_3bekks: well if I set it for temporal type of situation then what about the next time I boot to the system? Nouveau will still load, and If I set them permanently then nothing, not even nvidia would be able to perform modesetting, then.... :(11:58
bekksskfax: downgrading tar isnt that easy. And if some software relies on old version of _tar_ - throw it away and use some more sane software.11:58
AceKingcactuswizard: Which partion? Windows 8 doesn't recognize ext411:59
bekksRadon_3: And you can tell us at least _one_ reason why it would be vital to use kernel modesetting with nvidia?11:59
bekksRadon_3: Or do you just think you need it?11:59
AceKingI'm already dual booting Windows 8 with Ubuntu. I just wanted to put a fresh copy of Ubuntu on12:00
Radon_3I am thinkng maybe something else (not only nvidia) maybe the OS itself would probably need it.12:00
bekksRadon_3: You are wrong with that.12:00
Radon_3so I am going to permanently disablemodesetting... does it sound good?12:01
bekksRadon_3: For testing purposes - sure.12:01
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abraxasHi after installing 14.04 on another drive and updating grub (didn't find my win7 first). My keyboard and mouse stopped working on win7??? They still work in the grub menu and stop working on the win7 login. Any ideas?12:01
Radon_3bekks: so you see, I am not a tester, I am a user man.12:01
bekksRadon_3: Actually you are a tester - you have an issue and you have to test a workaround.12:02
Radon_3bekks: Do you think it is such a good idea to first disable mode setting temporarily, install the Nvidia driver, and then remove Nouvoua drive totally, and then enable modesetting again??12:03
Radon_3do you thyink it would work?12:03
bekksRadon_3: Thats pretty much nonsense.12:03
Radon_3how so?12:03
bekksRadon_3: Install the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repos. Try booting. If it doesnt work, try using nomodeset. Try booting.12:04
Radon_3bekks: my deareset sweetest bekks I am trying to install drivers from nvidia website....12:04
Radon_3not from the repos12:05
bekksRadon_3: Do not do that.12:05
Radon_3why not honey?12:05
bekksYou have no clue what you are doing, and your nvidia driver will break upon every kernel update.12:05
bekksIf you call me honey once more, i will put you on ignore. I dont even know you.12:05
Radon_3bekks: well I sort of do, I am reading the manual.... ;(12:06
bekksRadon_3: you kinda dont, unless you are reading this:12:06
bekks!nvidia | Radon_312:06
ubottuRadon_3: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto12:06
abraxasJust fyi: re-enabling UEFI Boot in bios solved my problem with the non-working keyboard an mouse.12:10
askerHello.12:12
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jwintermhi all, I have a kind of strange problem, wondering if anyone can help...12:17
cfhowlett!ask|jwinterm12:17
ubottujwinterm: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:17
jwintermI just installed 14.04 minimal install on a desktop with a 750W psu and two amd 270 gpus. The system boots, but only to tty1. I can run commands from the terminal, but if I run a command that will cause a lot of text to be output, the system crashes12:18
jwintermfor instance, "grub-install /dev/sda" is OK, only one line of text, but "grub-install --help" crashes computer12:19
jwintermalso, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" crashes computer12:19
jwintermI'm thinking it's a power issue12:19
mozzarellawhat do you mean by "crash"?12:19
jwintermnot necessarily from psu, but maybe can't draw enough power from the wall12:20
mozzarellado you get a kernel panic?12:20
jwintermscreen kind of flashes then goes black12:20
jwintermkaput12:20
cfhowlettjwinterm "power" meaning hardware? yeah, I can see that.  but any internal power issues should throw an error message if only to the logs12:20
jwintermI mean power from the wall, like maybe circuit in the house isn't giving psu enough power and making it crash12:21
jwintermis there a log file that would indicate that?12:21
cfhowlettjwinterm I've no knowledge of same but ##linux would know more12:21
kreiloghey, does anyone  the problem with BlueTooth after 14.04 ?12:22
jwintermok, I think I'm just gonna try and move it to a different circuit/part of house and see if that helps12:22
kreilogthat the mouse won`t connect12:22
cfhowlettjwinterm that would be the easiest test ...12:22
AeterneHello. I have a problem that I cannot proceed to do anything after I attempt to log in on Ubuntu, and I can't seem to resolve the issue either.12:25
AeterneHow am I suppose to reinstall the thing when I can't even get internet because I can't login?12:25
cfhowlettAeterne you don't need internet to install.12:26
AeterneCan you explain how I enter the shell and reinstall it without internet?12:26
AeterneOf course, I'm so lucky that I can't even login in the shell... I suspect it's the ÆØÅ characters.12:27
KGM70it helps to have internet during installation for wifi detection tho12:27
cfhowlettAeterne explain12:27
AeterneMy username is my name, which contains the Å-Norwegian letter, so I can't even login as root. This is all terribly convoluted. Bah.12:28
AeterneAnd I have an exam I am suppose to be bloody writing for. Perfect timing, as it always is!12:28
skfaxdet årner seg12:28
Aeterne:( Det håper jeg.12:28
MonkeyDustAeterne  change your username to something more readable, and don't login as root12:29
Radon_3How can I determine which xorg configuration file Nouveau is using at the moment?12:29
Radon_3does nouveau use xorg.conf at all?12:29
AeterneHow do I do that without root privileges to begin with?12:30
sucihello all12:32
MonkeyDustAeterne  doing something with root priviliges is not the same as login as root12:33
askerIs it possible to dual boot windows and ubuntu on a external hard drive? Say, I have 2 partitions, with ubuntu on one, and windows on the other. Would I be able to plug the external hard drive into a computer, and select windows or ubuntu using grub?12:33
sucianyone can help me to solve the error message while installing VGA driver. the error message is sorry, sorry the installation of this driver failed12:34
Lorith[Alpha]asker it theoritically possible12:34
jiltdilHi there...12:35
Aeternehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username12:36
Lorith[Alpha]since the bios saw the external HDD and internal equally i think12:36
AeterneLiterally every method12:36
Aeternethat lists how to change the username relies on administrative rights, MonkeyDust.12:36
AeterneSo if you could provide a link of some kind, that'd be helpful.12:36
askerLorith[Alpha]: How would one accomplish that, though?12:36
MonkeyDustAeterne  use sudo [command], if you want to do something as root12:37
dw1Aeterne: Ctrl-Shift-U then 00C5 then enter12:37
Radon_3would someone please tell me how to determine which xorg.conf file nouveau is using at the moment?12:38
osseAeterne: are you sure your full name is the user name? usually when you install ubuntu you provide your full name and it generates a suitable username from it12:39
dw1Aeterne: may not work in console :(12:39
dw1Aeterne: but you could boot a liveusb then chroot with #3-7 here http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot to modify the filesystem12:40
dw1Aeterne: you can reinstall packages from there too12:40
AeterneHrmm... All I allegedly need to do is reinstall ubuntu-desktop as that's the thing that fails after updating the Ubuntu system, supposedly.12:41
AeterneSo would you recommend that, then?12:41
dw1Aeterne: yeah you can install it in a chroot12:42
MonkeyDustAeterne  if you should reinstall, create a separate /home partition, som you personal files are safe12:42
AeterneI already put /home in the 1TB SSD and put everything else in the 120GB SSD12:42
AeterneIf I lost 20k+ words of text... oh man.12:43
AeterneI'd probably just give this semester a fond farewell.12:43
Lorith[Alpha]well, i never install in multiple drives, but i think it's 100% possible if you run diskless PC (just unplug the internal HDD) then treat it as installing windows+ubuntu dual boot12:43
dw1Aeterne: chroot is basically the same as logging into recovery mode as root12:44
MonkeyDustAeterne  always backup important files12:44
Lorith[Alpha]aeterne u can drop to root privilege at recovery mode u know that right?12:44
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dw1Lorith[Alpha]: he cant login cause of special character12:44
Aeterne^  Thank you.12:45
AeterneThis is correct.12:45
dw1Aeterne: so boot a liveusb and in a console or terminal do the chroot (#3-7 at http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot) with your ubuntu root partition then you can reinstall packages and/or rename users/folders12:47
AeterneI take it I replace /sda1 with my respective /root partition, yes?12:48
dw1yep12:48
AeterneI did, but when I followed with the next step, it simply says mount point doesn't exist.12:49
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dw1sounds like a simple error12:49
dw1wrong partition or no /mnt12:49
MonkeyDustbrb12:50
Radon_3dw1: could you tell me how I can see which xorg.conf is being used by nouveau right now?12:50
dw1Radon_3: no idea...12:51
Lorith[Alpha]oi ae, so u need to change your username coz u can't login and uninstall some stuff right?12:51
Radon_3;(12:51
* osse is still wondering how he managed to create the user name in the first place12:51
osseall the times I've installed ubuntu the installer has forbidden it12:51
dw1maybe it was created after install then install username was deleted :)12:51
AeterneYes, Lorith. Also, osse, I have to assume it's the reason because the username / pw I use doesn't work when I enter into the shell.12:52
Radon_3whose username are we talking about? It sounds iunteresting.12:52
AeterneI used the installation for many days until there was an update yesterday which, well, caused this when I woke this morning.12:52
AeterneBård Spein is the username.12:52
auscompgeekhmm, is there a compelling reason as to why ubiquity is preferring to to install to my second hdd?12:52
cfhowlettAeterne if it EVER worked, then user name is not the problem12:52
AeterneThen why can't I even login to the shell? Ubuntu boots up just fine: it's that when I login, it just stalls, does nothing, nothing happens and I can't enter the desktop.12:53
AeterneThat's the problem here, just so I reiterate for everybody who's interested here.12:53
Lorith[Alpha]http://askubuntu.com/questions/410244/a-command-to-list-all-users-in-ubuntu12:53
cfhowlettAeterne suggest you reboot and try an older kernel.12:53
dw1oh that doesnt sound like username12:53
Lorith[Alpha]check which one is yours12:53
Lorith[Alpha]from there12:54
dw1but the username will make it hard to get into recovery mode12:54
AeterneOK, thank you. I'll do that.12:54
dw1/var/log/Xorg.0.log12:54
Lorith[Alpha]recovery mode use root i think, not requiring any login12:54
dw1and /home/user/.xsession-errors12:54
Lorith[Alpha]brb trying my method in my pc12:55
dw1Lorith[Alpha]: oh is it automated ogin :/12:55
AeterneHrm... I can't really list all the users. Once again: I can't login to shell to begin with.12:55
dw1Aeterne: check logs in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode12:56
dw1someone just had a very similar problem 2 days ago but i forget the fix12:57
osseAeterne: in case you haven't already, while booting the live system, *make a copy* of your important files12:57
Lorith[Alpha]restart> (in grub)advanced option for ubuntu>ubuntu blah2 (recovery mode)> root12:57
dw1files shouldnt be affected...12:57
Lorith[Alpha]no login whatsoever12:57
Lorith[Alpha]and oh it's root administrative12:58
dw1yeah i think they had no desktop package12:58
guseydid anyone get f.lux working on ubuntu 14.04?12:58
dw1Aeterne: to get the package you might need the internet and therefore liveusb + chroot as before12:59
dw1Aeterne: or dhclient from recovery might work12:59
AeterneI should be good in terms of files.13:00
carusohola alguien que hable español?13:00
AeterneLet's see. So I need to check the Xorg logs.13:00
cfhowlett!es|caruso13:00
ubottucaruso: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:00
Motzpuppehello, anybodyy cout there who could help me to install ubuntu 14.4 out of an old 12.10 Sytem?13:02
dw1Aeterne: "All I allegedly need to do is reinstall ubuntu-desktop as that's the thing that fails after updating the Ubuntu system,  supposedly.13:02
Motzpuppemean could13:02
dw1Aeterne: was there some error13:02
AeterneNot as I recall, no.13:02
dw1Aeterne: just guessing?13:03
AeterneI'm pretty sure there wasn't, but at that point I had written about 6000 words and was on the verge of being lethargic. ;p13:04
guseywhat is the best word processor for ubuntu?13:04
cfhowlettgusey the one that you prefer.  no "best" - it's a subjective choice.13:05
Lorith[Alpha]@gusey i'm fine with libre13:05
milmihHi guys, I have a problem with my wifi, wherever it tries to connect to the particular router it doesn't recognize that it already saved the connection configuration and then it makes a new connection configuration and doesn't detect the right wifi security13:05
cfhowlett!best13:05
milmihcan anybody help? tell me what do you need to know?13:05
llutz cfhowlett factoid gone too :(13:06
cfhowlettllutz yeah, that last spring-cleaning wiped out some good ones.13:06
Lorith[Alpha]aeterne tell me your main objective, do u want to recover your file or smthing?13:08
milmihGuys, please, does anybody know anything about wi-fi connection and how can it not detect the right wifi security?13:08
dw1Aeterne: well if you cant get into unity you can always install one of a dozen other window managers if you can get connected to the net and use the package manager http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available13:09
vlad_starkovQuestion: Can anyone explain me how to properly restart networking without system reboot on Ubuntu Server 14.04?13:09
dw1Aeterne: i personally use gnome-session-flashback (gnome classic)13:10
AeterneI still can't get to connected to the internet. The ethernet driver is weird, sadly, and wirelss has insufficient privileges.13:10
guseyedit and change the settings?13:10
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dw1Aeterne: should be able to on liveusb ?13:10
AeterneI'll have to reinstall and be done with it, I think. I simply have too much exam stress weighing on me in order to give me the patience I need to resolve it.13:10
AeterneSadly, I haven't been able to, no. :(13:10
dw1Aeterne: well in that case make an offline copy of files just in case :)13:11
vlad_starkovI changed settings in/etc/network/interfaces and then ran sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but no luck13:11
llutzvlad_starkov: sudo ifdown -a && sudo ifup -a13:11
dw1Aeterne: im sure you can boot a usb stick in live usb, mount the partition, grab the files .....13:12
dw1Aeterne: at worst13:12
subz3r0for newer ubuntu versions you should use: sudo service networking start/stop/restart13:12
Lorith[Alpha]+1 to dw13:12
vlad_starkovllutz: ok then, should I actually run "/etc/init.d/networking restart"?13:12
llutzsubz3r0: networking restart is deprecated since ages13:12
AeterneYeah, dw1. :) I'm safe in that regard.13:12
dw1Aeterne: its really just a missing package or 2 but with no inet cant really fix it13:13
dw1Aeterne: though i dont see how a new install will be different than liveusb13:13
dw1Aeterne: as far as internet is concerned13:13
llutzvlad_starkov: tbh there is no clean way for ifupdown anymore. either use ifdown/ifup -a    or just the ifaces you changed13:13
llutzvlad_starkov: sudo ifdown ethX && sudo ifup ethX             like this13:14
vlad_starkovllutz: if I changed network bridges config?13:14
auscompgeekI have a system with two HDDs. Is it better to go with installing Ubuntu on a partition on my second HDDwhich doesn't have Windows, or install on my first HDD (which has Windows and a recovery partition)?13:15
cfhowlettauscompgeek install OS to one HDD and save all data to the other would be my choice13:16
KGM70auscompgeek, I use my 2nd hdd for linux , works well13:17
dw1Aeterne: the other option is copy package files to a usb stick from a computer with internet.......13:17
dw1Aeterne: but id try to fix the net13:17
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vlad_starkovllutz: ok thanks13:18
juwperpm me anyone that can help me, I am stuck at initramfs prompt. Read all the forum posts, nothing helped me13:19
daftykinsjuwper: we do not PM here, help is asked for and given in-channel so that everyone can comment or benefit13:20
juwperok, so anyone can help me with this?13:20
daftykinsjuwper: you're going to need to detail what happened to lead to this point before anyone knows where to start13:20
juwperi am totally newbie13:21
juwpertried to dual boot win8 and ubuntu 14.0413:21
juwperdidn't detect ubuntu13:21
AeterneThanks to everyone who joined in helping me out. :) It didn't work out, but I appreciate the effort. I think I'll be going with Awesome after reinstalling.13:21
juwperformatted, tried to install ubuntu only13:22
juwpernow it is always stuck in initframts13:22
auscompgeekcfhowlett: right, that's what I'd prefer. although, ubiquity wants to go the other way, which leaves me to question13:22
juwpertried boot rescue, etc, nothing worked13:22
KGM70juwper, use legacy mode in the uefi/bios13:22
milmihHi guys, I have a problem with my wifi, wherever it tries to connect to the particular router it doesn't recognize that it already saved the connection configuration and then it makes a new connection configuration and doesn't detect the right wifi security13:23
juwperhow is that?13:23
milmihcan anybody help? tell me what do you need to know?13:23
juwperopened my bios lots of times, but has no configuration to do a few things i read at the foruns13:23
KGM70juwper,  look for legacy mode in your boot sequence section13:24
auscompgeekKGM70: does that cause any problems with booting either windows or ubuntu (e.g. would I have to choose which device to boot from)?13:24
juwpermy bios doens't have that13:25
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Guest95346hows  you all13:26
juwperKGM70, is there any diferrent way to enter bios appart from pressing f2 at the start?13:26
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KGM70auscompgeek, not a problem if you update grub in linux , then your windows install should be listed when you boot13:26
maurociao13:26
KGM70juwper, if you enter bios with f2 then that's the correct key for your machine13:28
KGM70juwper, what's your computer model ?13:29
juwperKGM70, Toshiba L500 5years old now13:29
maurohttp://chat.ubuntu-it.org/#ubuntu-it13:30
KGM70juwper, ok then you probly don't have uefi , should have asked earlier... try holding down the left shift key right after the bios screen to bring up grub13:31
auscompgeekKGM70: I see. I think I'll resize my Windows partition though; I don't have as much space left on my 2nd hdd.13:31
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juwperKGM70, i am switching to nickname juwper2 because I am using the Toshiba L500 with live CD, please reply to that nick, ok? thanks, will do what you are telling me and post there what happened13:32
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auscompgeekKGM70: any compelling reason as to why installing on 2nd hdd would be better though?13:32
KGM70auscompgeek, it doesn't matter which hdd you use, as long as the OSs are onm separate drives13:32
Lorith[Alpha]@KGM edit: separate partition13:33
auscompgeekKGM70: drives or partitions? :)13:33
Lorith[Alpha]the right one is the partition13:33
juwper2KGM70, entered GRUB13:34
KGM70I'm sticking with your original questio auscompgeek , you can have windowes and linux on separate partitions on the same drive , if you want there's no rule against it13:34
rp123any sed gurus here?13:35
KGM70juwper2, ok , is windows listed ?13:35
juwper2no, i installed ubuntu only13:35
auscompgeekI understand that, but I'm asking whether there's a good reason why having them on separate drives13:35
juwper2entered gpart, put my hdd into only one partition and installed a fresh ubuntu13:36
KGM70juwper2, ok , so does ubuntu boot ?13:36
Lorith[Alpha]i'd rather install in different hdd if i need to resize  my windows partition, since i may ruin the content13:37
juwper2no, stays blank screen for a while and goes into initramfs after that13:37
Lorith[Alpha]if there's empty partition then i'll mess eith that13:37
Lorith[Alpha]*with13:38
KGM70auscompgeek, i find it more convenient to have separate drives for different installs13:39
KGM70auscompgeek, if one drive fails the computer can still be booted albeit with a boot cd, but it will still run13:40
juwper2KGM70, says: Gave up waiting for root device and gives an alert: /dev/disk/by-uuid/d44835e1-0da7-4888-9865-fbb1cdead46d dos not exist. and goes to initramfs13:40
milmihHi guys, I have a problem with my wifi, wherever it tries to connect to the particular router it doesn't recognize that it already saved the connection configuration and then it makes a new connection configuration and doesn't detect the right wifi security. Can anybody help me, please?13:42
KGM70juwper2, do you see grub at all ?13:42
juwper2yes, i see grub13:42
juwper2now i don't13:43
juwper2i see command line only13:43
juwper2with initramfs13:43
KGM70juwper2, then choose the recovery kernel and choose repair option in the dialog13:43
juwper2KGM70, i have Ubuntu; Advanced options for Ubuntu; Memory test; Memory test (serial console), which should I choose?13:45
UBuxuBUdid clean install of ubuntu 14.04 laptop booted to desktop and then mouse froze had to do hard restart and froze again??13:46
KGM70advanced options , then the recovery kernel, juwper213:46
UBuxuBUi have run 1204 nicely on this same laptop13:46
UBuxuBUis something wrong with 140413:46
compdoc14.04 seems fine to me13:47
juwper2KGM70, did that, run a few command lines and stuck at initramfs again13:47
* Lorith[Alpha] gave up in hardware thingy13:47
KGM70juwper2, in the command line you can login and update and upgrade there if you wish13:47
UBuxuBUwonder whats going on freezes up like a brick shorty after getting to desktop13:47
juwper2KGM70, how do i do that?13:47
UBuxuBUdoes 1404 need newer hardware or something?13:48
KGM70ctl+alt+f1 to f6 , should give a login prompt, juwper213:48
juwper2ctrl+alt+f2 is the only that happens anything, but gives me a bank screen with cursor blinking13:49
juwper2no other happen anything13:50
Lorith[Alpha]UBuxuBU: i don't think so, just some hardware error *may* not supported yet since error never brought up to dev13:50
juwper2KGM70, ctrl+alt+f2 is the only that happens anything, but gives me a bank screen with cursor blinking13:52
juwper2KGM70, no other happen anything13:52
ntg-workI'm having problems binding my screen brightness keys. acpi_listen are not discovering the keys and xev is not seeing any input either, I'm fairly out of ideas what to do now, any tips?13:52
KGM70juwper2, sorry I'm out of ideas, unless someone else has one ... maybe try a reinstall13:53
nith1210juwper2: Would you mind recapping your issue?13:54
juwper2did that several times, nothing worked13:54
juwper2tried to install win8 and ubuntu 14.04 on dual boot system, found that it was very hard on internet foruns and i wasn't able too...so i formatted hdd and did a clean ubuntu 14.04 install. Now i am stuck on initramfs and can't login13:55
nith1210juwper2: Ok, so what message is busybox giving you?13:56
juwper2nith1210, gave up waiting for root device13:57
KGM70!nomodeset | juwper213:57
ubottujuwper2: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:57
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juwper2nith1210, says: Gave up waiting for root device and gives an alert: /dev/disk/by-uuid/d44835e1-0da7-4888-9865-fbb1cdead46d dos not exist. and goes to initramfs13:57
uttqaWILL debian net install  have drivers for mine wlan card?13:57
Lorith[Alpha]did some win7+ubu14 and get some error coz the windows read HDD as MBR but ubuntu read it as gpt. it "may" happen to you too13:57
nith1210juwper2: Do you have drives listed in /dev/disk/by-uuid ?13:58
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juwper2nith1210, how do i see that?13:58
juwper2nith1210, sorry, i am completely newbie to ubuntu13:58
nith1210juwper2: just do ls /dev/sd*13:58
nith1210juwper2: np13:59
juwper2nith1210, says no such file or directory13:59
nith1210juwper2: Do you have two hard drives installed?13:59
juwper2no, just one14:00
AeterneWhat's the difference between Reserved Bios boot and EFI boot partition?14:00
AeterneShould I have an UEFI motherboard for the latter?14:00
juwper2nith1210, no just one14:00
nith1210juwper2: I'm sorry, my busybox usage is very rusty and family is calling.14:02
jmirror:/14:02
nith1210juwper2: You said that you reinstalled several times already?14:02
juwper2nith1210, yes14:02
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nith1210juwper2: When you reinstall, do you check the box which downloads updates during the initial install?14:03
juwper2nith1210, no14:03
nith1210I think your best bet is livecd; mount the / of your install; Print /etc/fstab onto paper, then restart and hit "e" for grub14:05
nith1210juwper2: think your best bet is livecd; mount the / of your install; Print /etc/fstab onto paper, then restart and hit "e" for grub14:05
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nith1210juwper2: Change the uuid so that it matches what your fstab has listed for /, then boot. Once the os starts, sudo update-grub14:05
nith1210juwper2: I'm sorry I can't stick around to try to walk you through that but that's at least my recommendation.14:06
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jmirrorHey Craig :P14:06
juwper2thanks14:06
juwper2nith1210, thanks anyway14:06
guseylol "14.04 is the best! it used to take 5 seconds to bring up the dash now it only takes 3 seconds"14:07
jmirrorCraig[iOS] has Quit (Remote host closed the connection)14:09
OerHeksjmirror please stop that script, not allowed here14:10
doesOk,I have a question. I am trying to record my desktop,but i need too record the sound I make wile recording my desktop.  I am using RecordMyDesktop. Can i run a cable from my audio-out port into my audio-in port,or would that fry something? Thanks!!14:14
airtonixsigh produces no results... $ grep -Rin 'extra' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list14:15
airtonixhowever... lots of files with the word 'extra' in there14:15
auscompgeekI keep forgetting, do I want my main Ubuntu partition to be primary or logical?14:15
juwper2cannot run ubuntu 14.04 in graphic mode, always stuck in initramfs, can anyone help me?14:16
holstein!nomodeset | juwper214:16
ubottujuwper2: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:16
daftykinsauscompgeek: depends on your current disk layout14:17
holsteinjuwper2: though, i think that could be a different error you are misinterpretting.. i would check my live bootable media and the md5 sums14:17
juwper2ubottu, thanks, tried to edit commands, but keep going to initramfs14:17
ubottujuwper2: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:17
juwper2holstein, how do i do that?14:17
qstrahlIs there a way to differentiate between windows I as the user intentionally spawned and windows spawned by some process? I'd like to have windows spawn on associated workspaces "by default", unless I actively spawned them while on another workspace.14:17
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holsteinjuwper2: ubottu is a bot, friend.. i asked it to share that information with you.. also..14:18
holstein!md5 | juwper214:18
ubottujuwper2: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows14:18
auscompgeekdaftykins: I intend on having it on the same hdd as Windows; there's the OS and recovery partitions o  there already14:18
daftykinsauscompgeek: MBR or GPT?14:18
auscompgeekdaftykins: mbr14:19
doesAnyone?14:19
holsteinjuwper2: its also quite easy to take the media to another machine.. ideally, one that has been known to support linux well, so you can rule out the issue you are seeing, and make sure its either graphics related, or, what i think it is, bad installation media14:19
juwper2holstein, i downloaded several linux distros, they all make this mistake14:19
holsteindoes: try it.. i have dont that, and it worked well14:19
daftykinsauscompgeek: then yeah after a resize, i'd make the ubuntu / partition into a primary, then make the rest extended and put swap in there - will your /home be on another disk or there also?14:19
holsteinjuwper2: sure.. and your internet, and you, and if you are using the same USB stick, or optical drive to burn media are all constants14:19
auscompgeekdaftykins: keeping /home on my /, don't really wanna screw things up14:21
daftykinsauscompgeek: a separate /home is always good for reinstalls14:21
random_user_6756Hello, i tried to install xen on ubuntu, but when booting xen i get a black screen. Tried many tutorials. Any idea how to solve the problem?14:22
daftykinsrandom_user_6756: so you're trying to boot the xen kernel?14:23
random_user_6756daftykins: yes14:23
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daftykinsrandom_user_6756: have you disabled the bootlogo and so on in the GRUB boot config to see if it streams messages and gets stuck somewhere?14:24
random_user_6756daftykins: no, how to do that?14:25
sibui am not able to configure adobe flash player here,can someone please help..14:25
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auscompgeekdaftykins: hmm, that's true; although I have a 2nd HDD that's NTFS, I can always copy stuff there I suppose14:26
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OerHeks!ot > jmirror stop that annoying script14:27
ubottujmirror, please see my private message14:27
daftykinsrandom_user_6756: hold left shift at boot, then go into the list of kernels and i think you press 'e' to edit the boot line, you have to change some of the parameters like quiet/splash but i'm not sure - you may find some advice online as to what to put14:28
sibu?14:28
random_user_6756daftykins: thank you, going to try that, brb14:28
daftykinssibu: by configure you mean install?14:28
sibuyes14:29
daftykins!flash | sibu14:29
ubottusibu: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash14:29
daftykinshave a look there14:29
sibuWill try  ,that thank u daftykins14:30
* daftykins bows14:30
doesThat worked!!14:32
MonkeyDust!yay14:35
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)14:35
kewvwBonjour,14:37
kewvwQuelq'un?14:37
MonkeyDust!fr14:37
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.14:37
ActionParsnipSibu: if the guide is no good, head back here14:39
random_user_5675daftykins: found the error "INFO: NMI handler (arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace_handler) took too long to run"14:39
Armag3dd0n1what's the BEST download manager for ubuntu 14.04????14:41
Zeusking19Depends what you mean by download manager14:41
Armag3dd0n1flareget will not work for me14:41
daftykinsrandom_user_5675: just checking, are you absolutely married to Xen for your intended virtualisation use?14:41
Zeusking19OK, hold on14:41
MonkeyDust!info flareget14:41
ubottuPackage flareget does not exist in trusty14:41
Armag3dd0n1zeu; i need a download manager that supports ssl and http downloads14:41
MonkeyDustArmag3dd0n1  what do you want to download?14:42
Zeusking19Have you tried uGet?14:42
Armag3dd0n1nope what is uget?14:42
nutzzhey guys, Where does gcc store stdarg.h header? If I write echo $PATH it displays me a blank line.14:42
Zeusking19!info uget14:42
ubottuuget (source: uget): easy-to-use download manager written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.4-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 218 kB, installed size 1017 kB14:42
nutzz$CPATH*14:42
random_user_5675daftykins: no, I just heard that xen is the best for gpu passthrough14:42
Armag3dd0n1thank you will try14:42
Zeusking19No Problems :)14:42
KurvivorHello! can i ask questions for dual-OS here?14:44
daftykinsrandom_user_5675: what are you wanting a guest to have full graphics card access for?14:44
Kurvivori have an extra HDD with Windows XP on it14:44
MonkeyDustKurvivor  ask and wait14:44
KurvivorAnd i would like to set up my system14:44
daftykinsKurvivor: if you can type your situation and query on one line, thatd be great.14:44
Zeusking19Kurvivor: I'll be happy to help14:44
daftykinsKurvivor: also know that XP is dead so every bit of advice should begin with "remove XP" :)14:44
ActionParsnip!info fatrat Armag3dd0n114:44
ubottu'Armag3dd0n1' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed14:44
ActionParsnipGah14:45
ActionParsnip!14:45
ActionParsnip!info fatrat | Armag3dd0n114:45
ubottuArmag3dd0n1: fatrat (source: fatrat): multi-protocol download manager, feature rich and extensible via plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0~beta2-0ubuntu8 (trusty), package size 1128 kB, installed size 3136 kB14:45
random_user_5675daftykins: Yes, i have 2 cards(actually 1 is comming), so i could give 1 to a virtual machine14:45
KurvivorI have extra HDD with windows XP. Wgat sgould i do to set up my system in a way that would allow me to load either Ubuntu (on my main/current HDD) or Xp?14:45
linuxlite1991sup14:45
Zeusking19Kurvivor: Well, how many HD's do you have in total? Do you want to install Ubuntu on a seperate HD?14:45
ActionParsnipArmag3dd0n1: also has a webui so you can manage downloads from another system as well as add files to download14:46
Armag3dd0n1sc?14:46
Armag3dd0n1uget is too slow14:46
Armag3dd0n1:/14:46
ActionParsnipKurvivor: boot to ubuntu install cd, resize ntfs and install to the freed space14:46
daftykinsrandom_user_5675: if you're going to try and game with Windows whilst having an ubuntu host OS... i don't think that's going to work out too well14:46
ActionParsnipKurvivor: you do know WinXP is dead14:46
xanguaArmag3dd0n1: a download manager will not speed up your downloads14:47
Armag3dd0n1uget 10.1MB/s | flareget 19.8MB/s so yes it does14:47
Armag3dd0n1going to try fatrat now thanks14:48
Armag3dd0n1:D14:48
ActionParsnipArmag3dd0n1: jdownloader too, needs java14:48
Armag3dd0n1jdownloader sucks on windows so not sure about linux14:49
daftykinsone does not knowingly suggest someone use java14:49
daftykins;)14:49
daftykinsKurvivor: yeah XP should not be used anymore so i don't see any reason for you to dualboot with it.14:49
Armag3dd0n1has fatrat got a chrome plugin?14:49
MonkeyDusti sometimes use XP in vbox14:50
random_user_5675daftykins: Why not, there are many videos of people playing games through xen on linux. Mostly arch and gentoo, but it looks doable.14:51
daftykinsseems like a horrible idea to me14:51
random_user_5675daftykins: just the ubuntu part or the whole idea?14:52
daftykinsall of it really :)14:52
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daftykinsrandom_user_5675: anywho, looks like maybe there's a bug in that kernel or something - maybe try and check there isn't a newer package available, or try a different distro14:52
Armag3dd0n1fatrat doesn't work eithert14:53
Armag3dd0n1handshake failed14:53
Armag3dd0n1ugh14:53
ActionParsnipArmag3dd0n1: try axel in cli14:53
Armag3dd0n1wut?14:53
Armag3dd0n1lol14:53
ActionParsnip!info axel14:54
ubottuaxel (source: axel): light download accelerator - console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-1 (trusty), package size 50 kB, installed size 216 kB14:54
Guest29552<- Looking for some help figuring out why tty's 1-6 show signal freq. OOR, but tty 7 is ok14:54
Armag3dd0n1flareget works and says the file is complete downloaded but in the folder the size is not righjt14:54
random_user_5675daftykins: actually i am a gentoo/funtoo user, and had some issues getting xen working there(kernel panic), so tried ubuntu :), anyway it should be working on kvm, so I will try KVM now.14:54
ActionParsnipGuest29552: sounds like your screen doesnt like the resolution of the tty14:54
Guest29552<- also how to change name to something other than Guest14:55
ActionParsnip!info flareget14:55
ubottuPackage flareget does not exist in trusty14:55
ActionParsnip!nick | Guest2955214:55
ubottuGuest29552: Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.14:55
Guest29552ActionParsnip: ok, lemme change name14:56
Zeusking19!register14:57
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode14:57
Zeusking19nvm, already registered xD14:57
Prometheashey all! any links to natty's ddeb repos? thank you15:10
bazhang!eolupgrades | Prometheas15:11
ubottuPrometheas: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:11
OerHeksPrometheas, those are not online anymore, EOL. there is a way to get them, but that would be useless15:11
OerHekssee url from ubottu15:11
Prometheasthanks bazhang and OerHeks15:11
daftykinslol still running natty, that's insane15:12
PrometheasI'm developing a kernel module in the repos of natty15:12
daftykinsPrometheas: so that it can be instantly redundant? seems like a waste of effort15:13
cruisibesaresdoes anyone know where i can find the min spec for a maas cluster controller?15:16
Anubishi15:18
Anubisi just update my ubuntu/kubuntu box and now my linux box won't start right15:19
Anubisi think it's something related to the 3.13 kernel15:19
MonkeyDustAnubis  "won't start"? what goes wrong?15:20
Anubismonkeydust: well it starts and then it throwing me a bunch of error messages most of them related to ipt and nf_conn15:24
Anubisand it's ending with SYSCALL or something like that15:24
ActionParsnipAnubis: if you hold SHIFT at boot, can you boot an older kernel ok?15:25
Anubisright now i'm in recovery mode15:25
Guest94430hi, does installation partition for lunux needs to be Primary Or logical/extended will work too. i already have win 815:25
peterpacz1Hello, I have a question: What exactly is the linux kernel? Is it "core" of the operating system, with the bare minimum of things to have a shell and a filesystem? Or is it more of a interface between the BIOS and the hardware, and the shell and filesystem are other things?15:25
ActionParsnipAnubis: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue15:25
AnubisActionParsnip: i can see and select an older kernel 3.2x15:25
bazhangpeterpacz1, thats outside the scope of this channel15:25
peterpacz1bazhang: What do you mean?15:26
ActionParsnippeterpacz1: it manages hardware and RAM access to the OS it is built on15:26
bazhangpeterpacz1, this is Ubuntu support15:26
peterpacz1ActionParsnip: So, if I plug the linux kernel into a CD, and try to boot from it, it wouldnt exactly work or do anything useful.15:26
AnubisActionParsnip: 14.04 LTS15:26
peterpacz1bazhang: Your right, sorry.15:26
ActionParsnippeterpacz1: the minimal iso is essentially that. Kernel + drivers + bootloader and a few tools.15:27
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Guest94430hi, does installation partition for lunux needs to be Primary Or logical/extended will work too. i already have win 8.15:27
ActionParsnippeterpacz1: it doesnt do much on its own15:28
peterpacz1ActionParsnip: So, there won't be any command line or text editors, just the foundations of a system that /could/ have those things. Am I making sense?15:28
Guest94430linux*15:28
ActionParsnipGuest94430: it doesnt make any difference15:28
Guest94430ok, thanks.15:28
ActionParsnippeterpacz1: the mini iso comes with vi and nano if memory serves15:28
Guest94430and as i read on web. unetbootin is fine to make bootable usb.15:29
Guest94430?15:29
ActionParsnipGuest94430: its one tool to do it, yes15:29
Guest94430ok.15:29
peterpacz1ActionParsnip: Would there be a command line? Can I do basic commands like ls, mkdir, or cp? Or are those things not there?15:29
peterpacz1ActionParsnip: Is there even fancy things like sudo, or adduser?15:29
ActionParsnippeterpacz1: yes you will get a bash shell and a few tools like package management15:30
ActionParsnipGuest94430: you can install windows in a logical partition too. The default is to use primary though15:31
Guest94430windows is currently installed in primary type, intalling on logical will not interrupt dual mode!!15:38
Anubiswell, for now i was able to start my linux box15:38
Anubisi think that the new kernel is not compatible with my firewall15:39
Anubis:)15:39
Anubisi guess i will have to install a newer version of the firewall15:40
dress*15:41
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ecod3hello everyone15:49
ecod3enyone online?15:49
chutwigi'm running through an install in expert mode and after it installs the system, it gets to a point where it won't proceed past asking me to select normal or live, and in the syslog it states that live-installer succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured15:49
chutwigany ideas why it would be doing that? networking configured successfully and that's usually what i expect to see if networking is broken15:50
nokia.j #ubuntu-fr15:50
boilyhi all! I'm trying to setup 14.04 on an old HP G60 laptop, but I'm having wireless issues. I managed to turn off the hardware rfkill switch (rmmod the ath5k driver and modprobing it again). now I can scan networks, but the connection drops as soon as authentication completes. anybody have a clue about what is going on? thanks!15:51
doomlord_in my current install ubuntu unity desktop seems quite a bit slower than 'xfwm' with compositing enabled - i still get the transparent terminals and dropshadows in the latter, but it moves windows around smoothly (i'm just talking about moving windows, not features like expo)15:53
doomlord_any idea if there are any settings i could tweak.. i notice thers' something going on with titlebar text antialiasing a bit different15:54
bazhang!info unity-tweak-tool | doomlord_15:54
ubottudoomlord_: unity-tweak-tool (source: unity-tweak-tool): configuration tool for the Unity desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.6ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 325 kB, installed size 2549 kB15:54
doomlord_it seems to have some rgb 'noise' particularly on unfocussed windows. Perhaps something is going on like its assuming everything is transparent and compositing where xfwm doesn't15:55
doomlord_(in the past i've seen opqaue windows have a subtle gradient looking like they have 1% transparency toward the bottom or something)15:55
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doomlord_i'm using ccsm at the minute.. looking for various settings15:55
bazhangwhy not try the tool I suggested doomlord_15:56
doomlord_ok i'll try that15:56
doomlord_XFWM is perfectly useable, but i do like the new menus in ubuntu15:57
doomlord_^in unity i mean15:57
win_d15:58
ktk2How are the resolutions set for tty's 1-6?  I used monitor.conf to set res. and it seems to have only worked for tty 7. Result is signal freq. OOR on 1-6. Do I add entries in monitor.conf?16:00
fafhnirnAbned16:01
sporgI'm in the process of updating from 12.04 to 13.04 on an old laptop with a non-functioning monitor.  The vga cable came loose and now I can't get any picture on the monitor. What should I do?16:04
sporgexternal monitor*16:04
doomlord_ok been through 'unity-tweak-tool' .. interesting but doesn't seem to show anything over and above ccsm16:04
xanguasporg: why do you wanna update to a no longer supported release¿16:04
jribsporg: why are you updating to 13.04 intead of 14.04?16:04
Dathow can I get the source list for kubuntu 14.10?16:04
sporgbecaue you can't upgrade directly from 12.04 to 13.0416:04
jrib!14.10 | Dat16:04
ubottuDat: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) is the next development release of Ubuntu due for release in October 2014. Support in #ubuntu+1. For more info, see the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/136316:04
xangua!14.10 | dat16:04
ubottudat: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) is the next development release of Ubuntu due for release in October 2014. Support in #ubuntu+1. For more info, see the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/136316:04
sporg*to 14.0416:05
jribsporg: yes you can16:05
sporgnot what i read16:05
xanguawhere16:05
IdleOnejrib: 12.04-14.04 is technically not supported until release of 14.04.116:05
doomlord_i guess i'll stick with XFWM. no great disaster. can't find anything that affects speed16:05
jribIdleOne: that's fair16:05
sporganyway that doesn't matter16:06
jribsporg: why not?16:06
IdleOnejrib: sporg in the mean time you can edit your sources.list to trusty and then run the upgrade but things could break. backups!16:06
sporgbecause the problem is that i'm in the middle of the update process and have no image, not that I'm doing the update process wrong in your opinion16:06
sporgis there something I can do to get vga output working again? a keyboard shortcut?16:07
sporgwhat happens if I power off in the middle of updating?16:07
jribsporg: how did you upgrade?16:07
sporgusing software updater16:07
IdleOnesporg: as far as the monitor not working (or the VGA port being broken) that seems like a hardware issue16:07
sporgno, the issue is that i knocked the cable loose16:08
OerHekssporg, depends on the machine if it has fn key to switch internal/external monitor, not sure it solves youur odd issue16:08
IdleOnesporg: so plug it back in16:08
sporgnice one IdleOne16:08
zakariaHello , how i can add adobe flash to ubunto ??16:08
jrib!flash | zakaria16:09
ubottuzakaria: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash16:09
IdleOnesporg: if you interrupt the upgrade then you can start it over by running the same command you did to start it. You might have to run sudo apt-get -f install16:09
sporgthank OerHeks turns out I had a key to switch to external monitor16:09
IdleOne-f will attempt to fix any half installed or broken packages16:09
zakariathank you16:10
straterraHow goos is 14.04's UEFI support?16:12
straterragood^16:12
chutwigcan i force the menu installer to move on to another step?16:12
corpushi, everyone16:13
OerHeks!uefi | straterra, good as it gets16:14
ubottustraterra, good as it gets: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:14
OerHekschutwig, no, why would you want that?16:15
chutwigbecause it's stuck on not proceeding past configuring the package manager and i want it to install grub and reboot so i can fix the sources later, because it already installed the base system16:16
chutwigguess i'll reboot to rescue mode and run grub-install from there16:16
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ecod3i've tried to install inssider with wine but doesnt work. any link how to install innsider on ubutnu 14.04 and make it work as well???16:24
OerHeksecod3, what package, inssider or innsider or ?16:25
bazhangecod3, check the appdb16:25
bazhangecod3, after that, /join #winehq16:25
bazhang!appdb | ecod316:26
ubottuecod3: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help16:26
ecod3thnks guys but my actually question is if there is any inssider for linux. I mean any link where to install it using the terminal??? Thnk you16:27
vandalismchan16:28
OerHeksecod3, there is no such package in repositories16:28
bazhang!equivalents | ecod3 check here16:28
ubottuecod3 check here: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot16:28
scarabee irc.freenode.net16:28
ecod3thank you16:29
OerHeksecod3, there is a github, obsolete, 3 years old  https://github.com/metageek-llc/inSSIDer-2-Cross-Platform/downloads16:29
ecod3OerHeks, i've tried on my ubuntu 14.04 and dameged my system, and i had to reinstall ubuntu16:30
xanguahttp://sourceforge.net/projects/linssid/16:30
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ecod3xangua, thank you. i know it, and i was just wondering if inssider working on linux. thank you all of you for help16:32
day_does anyone here uses eyefinity/nvidia surround?16:32
day_or at least multiple monitorsl?16:33
* Osz see this one :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlIDnsce0z416:33
ethern0thello16:36
ethern0tneed a hand here, wired thing filezilla is limiting speed without speed limit enabled, filezilla capping speed at 1.2MB, using bearftp gets 3MB ( same file download active connection), any hits about whats this ?16:37
ethern0thints*16:37
GeorgeJHello folks!16:38
GeorgeJHow could I compile a go binary from a linux box, for a windows machine?16:38
GeorgeJI've already got the standard library compiled for windows_amd64 by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/golang-go-windows-amd6416:39
manaar333hi16:40
manaar333salut16:40
boilymanaar333: bonjour!16:40
manaar333salut16:40
manaar333boily salut! tu vas bien?16:41
rvdv!fr16:41
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:41
nick0r0Hello16:41
boilyrvdv: thanks. you out-!fred me :P16:41
juwperhello guys, I need help as I am stuck in initramfs and cannot put ubuntu 14.04 in graphical mode16:41
rvdv:-)16:41
GeorgeJOOps, sorry, it would appear I'm in the wrong channel. ^_^16:42
juwperI need a really good linux person to help me16:42
boilyre. my previously mentioned HP G60 wireless problem, I now have a solution: add "nohwcrypt=1" to the ath5k options, rmmod/modprobe the module (not sure if needed), and one press on the damned wireless button.16:42
manaar333i want add ATP line about canonical partners16:44
juwperI need a really good linux person to help me16:44
juwperhello guys, I need help as I am stuck in initramfs and cannot put ubuntu 14.04 in graphical mode16:44
manaar333but i don't find it :(16:44
manaar333i just get xubuntu 14.0416:44
manaar333interesting16:44
xangua!partner | manaar33316:45
ubottumanaar333: Canonical's partner repositories provide a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »16:45
juwperanyone to help me?16:46
juwperI am stuck in initramfs and cannot put ubuntu 14.04 in graphical mode16:46
MasterOfDisasterjuwper: eh.. sure it's initramfs and not just regular console mode?16:47
juwperMasterOfDisaster, sure16:48
quems'il te plaït.16:48
juwperMasterOfDisaster, it says (initramfs) and cursor blinks16:48
OerHeks!nomodeset16:49
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:49
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jackmy amd64 system is getting lots of i386 infos during apt-get update...16:50
jackcan i remove/disablke that in sources.list?16:50
MonkeyDustjack  here too, guess it's normal16:51
MasterOfDisasterjack: it's normal.16:51
juwperOerKejs, can you help me with that?16:51
MasterOfDisasterjack: wine for example pulls a lot of i*86 stuff.16:51
juwperOerheks, can you help me with that?16:51
OerHeksjuwper, it is an excellent howto16:51
MasterOfDisasterjack: apt-cache tells you more about it. see apt-cache dotty for example.16:52
juwperOerHeks, I am totally newbie to linux16:52
MonkeyDustjuwper  read the howto, so you will be less newbie16:53
juwperOerHeks, that's not the help i need, i tried almost everything i read, nothing works16:53
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erle-sudo gives me memory leak warnings all the time16:54
juwperOerHeks, i tried to put nomodeset to grub but i don't know how...tried the live session but doens't let me save the grub file says no permissions16:54
erle-is it supposed to scare newbies?16:55
MonkeyDusterle-  it is16:55
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MonkeyDusterle-  start from the beginning, what brings you here16:55
h3r1hello there... i made a  reinstall of ubuntuon my laptop... i have an encrypted home folder... i used to share the desktop folder via samba without problems. now after the reinstall it says it cannot mount it... any idea how i can fix this16:56
juwperGuys, i really need help here, i want to install ubuntu as the only OS in my pc, but can't put it into graphical mode16:57
erle-MonkeyDust, since 14.4, sudo does this: http://pastebin.com/xnpgzZ6f16:58
MasterOfDisasterjuwper: please at least try what people suggest, before you keep whining.16:58
erle-MonkeyDust, doesnt it do it on your machine?16:59
juwperguys, i really mean it, i have tried everything i could, i am trying to install this for a week now and this is the last chance for me16:59
MonkeyDusterle-  no, butg i'm not in ubuntu, right now17:00
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jackMasterOfDisaster: yeah i know17:02
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jackbut my question was if it's possible to remove those sources17:02
h3r1hello there... i made a  reinstall of ubuntu on my laptop... i have an encrypted home folder... i used to share the desktop folder via samba without problems. now after the reinstall it says it cannot mount it... any idea how i can fix this?17:03
pakairjack, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list17:03
Locke2002erle-: It looks like this problem: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221404217:04
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nick0r0ubottu: You can answer questions?17:05
ubottunick0r0: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:05
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h3r1#ubuntu-server17:06
nick0r0ubottu: You're pretty cool for a bot! Don't sell yourself so short :).17:06
ubottunick0r0: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:06
bazhangnick0r0, /msg ubottu please17:06
juwperguys, stuck in initramfs command line, anyone can help me, been trying to fix this for a week now and nothing worked...17:06
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bazhangjuwper, what happened when you used the nomodeset option17:07
jackpakair: is that a yes? removing the i386 entries won't hurt?17:07
kadirserver17:07
jackgreat - thx17:07
juwperbazhang, edited the grub file but can't save it as I have no permission to do it17:08
ethern0tneed a hand here, wired thing filezilla is limiting speed without speed limit enabled, filezilla capping speed at 1.2MB, using bearftp gets 3MB ( same file download active connection), any hints about whats this ?17:08
juwperbazhang, can you help me trying that path?17:08
pakairjack, the sources.list has repositories which you can remove (or comment putting a # in front). Then an apt-get update will use ONLY those repos in the sources.list17:09
bazhangjuwper, have you read the link? how are you trying to access it? regular system boot/live cd? pastebin the errors you receive17:09
bazhang!paste | juwper17:09
ubottujuwper: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:09
juwperbazhang, i tried in live cd17:10
vrunhi17:11
Arr0Whry17:11
Arr0Whey17:12
juwperbazhang, doens't let me save the grub file neither update the grub, it says something about /cow on canonical17:12
vrunwhere do you live?17:12
vrundo the people write in this chat?17:14
MonkeyDustvrun  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic for social chit chat17:15
pakairvrun, this is the ubuntu channel ... have a question? ask.17:15
j54hi have a problem with an encrypted home folder... i used to share the desktop folder via samba without problems. now after the reinstall it says it cannot mount it... anybody17:19
mpdutywhich ubuntu project do I join to popularize ubuntu in villages of India?17:21
bazhangmpduty, try in the #ubuntu-in channel17:21
mpdutyok thanks17:22
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bmk789I have a bcm4318 im trying to get working on trusty, can anyone help for a btc tip?17:28
bazhang!broadcomm | bmk78917:29
bekksbmk789: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx17:29
bazhang-m17:29
xeno_I am trying to install an ubuntu iso on a pin drive.  It says erasing...17:30
bekksxeno_: Yes.17:30
bmk789i have the bc43 module installed and i can see wlan0 but I dont have any gui to configure my network and iwconfig isnt liking my wpa17:30
day_is it possible to stretch a movie across multiple monitors?17:32
day_with bezel correction obviously17:32
ubuntu-studioHi there, Does anyone use ubuntustudio for video editing?17:35
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MonkeyDustubuntu-studio  try #ubuntustudio17:35
XDS2010_sign it !  https://www.change.org/petitions/cw-network-mark-pedowitz-cbs-corporation-renew-star-crossed-for-a-second-season17:35
ubuntu-studiothanks17:36
ubuntu-studio#ubuntustudio17:36
tehdot_classI'm trying to upgrade xmbcbuntu with do-release-upgrade and keep getting a broken or held file error. Here is the contents of my apt.log from the download attempt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7448428/17:36
MonkeyDusttehdot_class  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue17:38
tehdot_classMonkeyDust: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l17:39
pakairbmk789, I had a rough time with 4318, bought an Intel 2200 for my laptop and everything works. My 2c17:39
MonkeyDusttehdot_class  try do-release-upgrade -d17:39
someHumanIs there an available Ubuntu 14.04 LTS documentation in PDF?17:40
MonkeyDusttehdot_class  mind: -d means development17:40
tehdot_classMonkeyDust: raring: error: no such option: --devel-release17:40
ubuntu-studioHi all. Does anyone know if unbuntustudio's kernel is optimized for video editing? I'm currently comparing ubuntustudio 14 xfce and Linux Mint 16 xfce, but see no difference when using openshot or kdenlive with HD-videos.17:43
xeno_Crashed trying to write to a USB drive just now from Ubuntu.17:43
xeno_Just got back.17:43
bekksubuntu-studio: What do you expect to see then, actually?17:44
xeno_The utility was taking 100% of cpu from 2 of four last point I was able to see.17:44
loaubuntu-studio, it comes with lowlatency kernel17:44
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xeno_It said not enough space, but was also trying to erase the USB drive.17:44
ubuntu-studioI watched the cpu-amount in top. Expected it to be less in ubuntustudio17:44
bekksxeno_: And?17:44
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loaso it can be much better to use normal ubuntu with high threwoutput17:44
bekksubuntu-studio: Because?17:44
xeno_It kept slowing down until about 5 minutes ago it froze up and I had to turn off the machine to get access back.17:45
ubuntu-studiobekks: because of low latency kernel17:45
loalol17:45
loaubuntu-studio, you know nothing about low latency and for what it used.17:45
ubuntu-studioloa: that's correct17:46
xeno_I have standard Ubuntu installed.17:46
bekksubuntu-studio: You can easily install a low-latency kernel in Ubuntu.17:46
bekksubuntu-studio: Check wether the low latency kernel is in use, actually.17:46
xeno_13.1017:46
ubuntu-studioloa: so there's no benefit for me to install ubuntustudio?17:47
loaubuntu-studio, simply it helps to create more responsible system, for example for musicians.17:47
bekksubuntu-studio: No, no benefit.17:47
loaubuntu-studio, looks like no.17:47
bekksubuntu-studio: Unless you are doing real time editing, like musicians, you will have no benefit at all.17:47
loai used little ubuntustudio and i like that they installed default software.17:48
ubuntu-studiobekks: hmm, so low latency has no effect on HD-video?17:48
loadefault for musicians *17:48
loaubuntu-studio, it has)17:48
bekksubuntu-studio: Correct. No Effect at all.17:48
loait slowing things down17:48
bekksloa: :P17:48
bekksubuntu-studio: It lowers latency for the sake of increased context switches for long running aplications - like video editing.17:49
sam__I can't open local swf file with chromium in ubuntu 14.04 . any fix for that?17:50
ubuntu-studiobekks: I like the cinnamon-desktop. So is it better for me to use ubuntustudio with cinnamon? Or to use Linux Mint with cinnamon?17:51
red45923where in the file system is the trash bin located on ubuntu?17:51
bekksubuntu-studio: "Better" is a personal choice. Mint isnt supported in here.17:51
bazhang!trash | red4592317:51
ubottured45923: Your GUI file manager's Trash folder is located at ~/.local/share/Trash/ for files moved to trash from your hard disk and .../.Trash-userid/ on external devices for files moved to trash from the device.17:51
Squarepywhat? support is beside the point17:52
red45923thanks bazhang17:52
ubuntu-studiobekks: Ok, but if HD-editing won't be better with ubuntustudio. So usual ubuntu will do the same?17:53
Squarepyubuntu-studio, when you are into multi-media, mint if you want a leaner desktop17:53
bekksubuntu-studio: Correct.17:53
loahow i can create multi line notifications?17:53
bekksSquarepy: You dont need mint for a "leaner" desktop.17:53
loait will be cool if there will html support too.17:54
ubuntu-studiobekks and Squarepy: thank you17:54
loafor example for ability to play sounds.17:54
loawant to create notification about provider balance.17:54
trismloa: notify-send "Subject" "This is line one\nThis is line two\nLine three..."17:55
ubuntu-studiobekks: cinnamon will work on ubuntu as well I think17:55
bekksubuntu-studio: Yes. So no need for anything else but Ubuntu.17:55
OerHeksloa,  this page may be a help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD17:55
sam__I can't open local swf file with chromium in ubuntu 14.04 . any fix for that?17:55
OerHeksubuntu-studio, cinnamon is out of our repos17:55
ubuntu-studioOerHeks: why is that?17:55
loahow i like support here.17:55
bekks!info cinnamon17:56
ubottuPackage cinnamon does not exist in trusty17:56
bekksAh, it vanished in trusty.17:56
OerHeksubuntu-studio, as it is removes, glad it is.17:56
OerHeks*removed17:56
loayou all are awesome.17:56
vsevolodshchegolПривет17:56
bekks!ru | vsevolodshchegol17:57
ubottuvsevolodshchegol: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:57
ubuntu-studiook, then I think I'm gonna go install Mint instead of ubuntu17:57
erle-why is there lib32 and libx32?17:57
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bekksubuntu-studio: Good luck then.17:57
ubuntu-studiobekks: you don't like?17:58
kat_hi, is anybody on today?17:58
bekksubuntu-studio: It isnt supported in here.17:58
ubuntu-studiobekks: ok, I'll sleep a night over this decision17:59
bekksubuntu-studio: decision: support vs. desktop.17:59
kat_guys, I just downloaded Minecraft. On other distros, I had to have javajdk6 or 7. But I can't find it in the synaptic package. What should I do?17:59
bekkskat_: JDK6 is EOL basically.17:59
kat_I mean, to open minecraft, you have to open it with java17:59
bekks!java | kat_17:59
ubottukat_: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.17:59
kat_o.k. I'm writing this downl.18:00
OerHeksif other distros provide java6/7, i wonder about legal stuff18:00
kat_awesome   thanks!18:03
xeno_Trying again.18:04
xeno_org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.18:04
xeno_I just initialized this usb memory on my windows system.18:04
bekksxeno_: And thath message is caused by what when doing what?18:05
xeno_I don't care about anything that is on it.18:05
xeno_By using the "Make startup disk" utility on a usb drive.18:05
xeno_I am configured to read a Ubuntu server iso and write to the drive.18:06
xeno_Last time I tried this, and continued, it froze up my system.18:06
xeno_Right now it says erasing, but it seems to be doing nothing.18:06
bekks!usb | xeno_18:07
ubottuxeno_: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:07
xeno_According to top this tool is already using up 99% on each of two cpus.18:07
bekksxeno_: And "wa" (2nd row) is pretty high, is it?18:07
xeno_I think I am already following those instructions.18:07
zetheroowhich photo editor has the best array of photo effects?18:08
bekkszetheroo: "best" is a personal choice. Try out photo editors and choose the one that fits your needs.18:08
xeno_0.1 wa18:08
bekksxeno_: Then check which application is causing the CPU usage.18:08
xeno_udisks-helper18:09
zetheroobekks: in that case ... which photo editor has the largest array of photo effects?18:09
xeno_udisks-daemon18:09
xeno_Both of those are using 100%, or near it at all times.18:09
rp123any sed experts in here?18:10
xeno_This is from the top of top18:10
xeno_I am a sed expert,  but I may lose my connection any minute...18:10
walent11hi,18:13
rp123haha xeno18:13
xeno__Back again after 2nd freezeup from boot disk making tool.18:13
bekkszetheroo: Just choose the editor that fits your needs, the number of effects is pretty irreleavnt.18:13
rp123:)18:13
rp123good timining18:14
walent11i'm installing ubuntu on external hdd, but i get grub error rescue.... I'm at installation now, can you tell me what partitions to make, + i need a NTFS one for windows transfer18:14
xeno__rp123 I missed anything you might have said in the meantime of course.18:14
rp123i am trying to do an extract from an xml file (i know, puke) and its across multipel lines18:14
rp123its alright, i didn't say anything anyway18:14
bazhangzetheroo, try imagemagick18:15
xeno__Okay, that is complex enough you are better off, if possible using something like Ruby with one of its' xml parser gems.18:15
darkseidGreetings...18:15
xeno__Ruby is more accessible in many ways than Bash and Sed.18:15
rp123http://pastebin.com/WhegZCCg18:15
rp123i want to extract the version in <string> tag18:15
zetheroobekks: I take it you just don't know which photo editor has the largest array of photo effect ... A simple "I don't know" would have sufficed  :P18:16
rp123the problme is there are other <string> tags as well so i am not sure how to go about it18:16
bekkszetheroo: I take that as "I have no clue what I really want". Good luck.18:16
rp123i would have ideally used xmlselect for this18:16
rp123but i am writing a grunt task, and want to just use somethingt hat is installed by default18:17
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Paradisee_hello18:17
bekksrp123: Dont try to parse some XML using sed.18:17
rp123xmlstarlet18:17
zetheroobazhang: I have tried to use that but my pics open up incredibly magnified and I don't see any options or program buttons etc18:17
darkseidI'd like to know, how can I change the proprietary of all paths of my home directory. I had one problem and the only choice was move everything from one user to another under root. I tried 'chown root:darky /darky" but, didn't worked.18:17
rp123agreed, i wouldn't if i had an option :)18:17
rp123ok i am going to re-write bits of it without it18:17
Paradisee_i get this error: http://postimg.org/image/z6igt4ls918:17
bekksParadisee_: When doing what?18:18
Paradisee_trying to install ubuntu18:18
qwdHow do I install biblatex on Ubuntu 14.04?18:18
bazhangzetheroo, you need to learn how to use it then, it's very powerful18:18
bekks!info biblatex18:18
ubottuPackage biblatex does not exist in trusty18:18
zetheroobekks: There was clue in my question ... it was something like a "photo editor has the largest array of photo effects" ... ;)18:18
bazhangqwd, apt-cache search term for it18:19
bekkszetheroo: And you still dont know what you really want. I am resting your case.18:19
darkseidI'd like to know, how can I change the proprietary of all paths of my home directory. I had one problem and the only choice was move everything from one user to another under root. I tried 'chown root:darky /darky" but, didn't worked.18:19
zetheroobazhang: hmm ... ok ... I am looking for something with preset photo effects .. similar to what Google Photos has18:20
pakairqwd, install package texlive18:20
lucidauhi, I#m installing 14.04 amd64 from a minimal iso, I have internet connectivity but install fails with debootstrap error failed getting release signature file. I tried several mirrors they all fail the same way, what do?18:20
xeno__echo '<string>1.3.2</string>' | sed 's:<string>\([^<]*\)</string>:\1:'18:20
xeno__rp12318:20
xeno__That is a start.18:21
xeno__You can pipe a grep to that.18:21
xeno__The idea of the regular expression is take the string until you find a <18:21
zetheroobekks: uhm ... your kidding right!? How does "a "photo editor has the largest array of photo effects"" not tell you what I am looking for!? :D18:21
bekkszetheroo: I am not kidding. I am resting your case.18:21
darkseidI'd like to know, how can I change the proprietary of all paths of my home directory. I had one problem and the only choice was move everything from one user to another under root. I tried 'chown root:darky /darky" but, didn't worked.18:21
xeno__The \1 holds what is in \(.*\)18:21
xeno__rp123:  Does that help?18:22
xeno__The whole thing might be grep '<string>' | same thing as I said above.18:22
darkseidc'mon.....18:22
xeoniddarkseid: sudo chmod 777 /root && sudo chown user.user /root18:23
xeno__Perhaps this is off topic though.18:23
bekksxeno__: that will mess up permissions of /root18:23
xeoniddarkseid:  and edit /etc/passwd and change your homepath18:23
darkseidxeno__: Ok, what means 777 ?18:23
awktion!permissions18:23
walent11quick question.... install boot loader on dev/sdc or dev/sdc518:23
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions18:23
xeno__What?18:23
xeoniddarkseid: man chmod18:24
awktiondarkseid: take a look at that link18:24
xeno__bekks? Are you cross topic confused?18:24
zetheroobekks: forget it man - next time just say "I don't know what your looking for" or better yet don't say anything at all if you don't know the answer to the question ... its nerve-wrecking to have people lecturing you on a word you used in a question (like "best") and then not know anyhow anything about your question!18:24
bekksxeno__: No.18:24
awktion'18:23:07' < xeonid> darkseid: sudo chmod 777 /root && sudo chown user.user /root18:24
rp123xeno__ the problem is i can't access \118:24
awktionthis means:18:24
bekkszetheroo: Ignore set. Not even reading your last post.18:24
xeno__Sorry, how can a solution for rp123 problem affect permissions.18:24
awktionset read/write/executable for the user that owns it, its group, and all other users on the system18:24
zetherooHa! touchy thing ay ...18:24
awktionthen, it sets root to be owned by user/group user18:25
awktionwhich is usually drwx------ 11 root root 4.0K May 11 02:00 root18:25
awktionso hopefully there's a really good reason for this...18:25
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xeno__rp123:  There is a context problem here.18:26
xeno__Sed in it's proper context of use will do what I said, on bash on Ubuntu.18:27
xeno__rp123:  Are you doing this on bash on ubuntu?18:27
pakairawktion, actually 777 will set perms as -rwxrwxrwx18:27
lblumeand 777 is quite always a bad idea.18:28
awktionthat's what i said pakair18:28
awktionuser|group|all18:28
awktion7|7|718:28
lucidauhow can I select the fastest mirror from the command line?18:28
awktion4+2+1|4+2+1|4+2+118:28
xeno__Okay, please back to my woeful case...18:29
chomwittduring an  upgrade from 13.10->14.04 terminal became black. i no longer have progress feedback18:29
Paradisee_how can i solve this? http://postimg.org/image/z6igt4ls918:29
chomwittwhat should i do?18:29
awktionread=4 write=2 execute=118:29
darkseidxeonid, awktion: Fine, thanks.... Worked now and I see where was wrong..18:29
awktion^^;18:29
awktiondoes that make sense pakair ?18:29
awktionwhen you look @ the letters you should be able to translate to #'s and back and forth18:30
awktion!setuid18:30
pakairawktion, yes ... earlier someone posted drwx------ which did not match 77718:30
xeonidParadisee_: by installing correct driver to your gfx chipset ?18:31
Paradisee_im just tring to install ubuntu, and i get that error18:31
qwdpakair: thanks, guess I already had it!18:31
pakairqwd, good18:32
Paradisee_cant even modify nothing, cus the menu doesnt work properly18:32
darkseidxeonid, awktion: Actually, now it is worse.. I'm downloading things and that's the message: FAILED: INSUFFICIENT PERMISSION18:32
Paradisee_im just able to type on the terminal, that's it18:32
darkseidxeonid, awktion: Instead root, should it be sudo?18:32
sam__Guys I'm having problem with ubuntu 14.04. I can't open local swf files with any browswer. somone told me to install gnash I did but its a useless software18:32
xeoniddarkseid: ls -lart /path/to/download/dir18:32
sam__any better idea??18:33
xeonidput it on pastebin.com18:33
awktionpakair: i posted that, its NOT 777. it's what a root directory defaults to - only readable by root18:33
awktionthere's one more line in the permissions, that's for attributes18:33
pakairawktion, ok got it18:34
awktionsetuid/setgid/sticky18:34
darkseid_I lost the connection...18:34
darkseid_sudo didn't worked too..18:34
Yatirohallo18:34
overlayersam__, you call gnash useless and still expect help from the community?18:35
awktionand don't forget immutable18:35
Yatirojemand deutsches heir der mir an meinem kleinen ubuntu problem mit phpmyadmin weiter helfen kann?18:35
awktionchanywayz18:35
xeoniddarkseid: which directory are u using , /home/usernam or /root ?18:35
awktiondeutsches?18:35
Yatirovon mir aus auch ein detuscher18:35
sam__overlayer: well I tried it and it didn't open my swf file. I can send it to you. you can try to open with gnash or tell me how to do it18:35
awktion!german|xenoid18:35
ubottuxenoid: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:35
Yatiroich weiss nciht weiter snif18:35
sam__overlayer: first of all it doesn't open in browser18:36
xeonidi'm not german18:36
sam__overlayer:  so my cookies won't be there when I open with gnash18:36
darkseid_xeonid: How can I undo that command?18:36
pakair!german | Yatiro18:36
ubottuYatiro: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:36
chillpill_ Translation failed18:36
darkseid_sudo chmod 777 /root && sudo chown darky:darky /root18:37
darkseid_It's everything blocked now..18:37
xeoniddarkseid_: type. sudo chown root.root /root , but i don't think thats help18:37
Yatiro-pakair test18:38
pakairYatiro, I'm here18:38
xeoniddarkseid_: i think that you should at first read something about bash chmod chown path and configuration files  than start play with linux18:39
Yatiropakair u read me?18:40
pakairYatiro, yes18:40
Yatirook ten i continue18:40
darkseid_xeonid: I'll explain: I moved all files from an user to another using 'sudo su' mv'. Now, I cant manage those files, cause apparently the user 'darky' isn't the owner. I just want to change it. I want 'darky' as the owner. Darky is in sudo group..18:42
Yatiroist query pm?18:43
xeoniddarkseid_: you can't manage that files because you don't have any permissions to /root so login as root $: su and move these files somewhere else18:44
pakairYatiro, nur Englisch hier (only English here)18:45
darkseid_xeonid: yes, root is the owner. I moved everything from the old user directory: desktop, pictures, downloads, musics, all the /home directory...18:46
Yatiropakai thanks for all but i leave cause i to stupid18:46
Paradisee_can someone help me?18:46
awktiondarkseid_: here's what I would do:18:48
awktioni18:48
awktioni'd make the new user, then look at the files created.18:49
awktiona few have special permissions other than normal18:49
awktionin general a tar preserving permissions would do it, then after the user is recreated, mv that dir to user.bak, and untar the old one, rerunning chmod user:user to ensure the new uid/gid get transferred18:49
sam__http://askubuntu.com/questions/464481/swf-for-ubuntu-14-0418:51
sam__please answer to my question18:51
awktionoh yeah18:52
awktion2s sam__ you're in luck ;)18:52
awktion(i think)18:52
darkseid_awktion: Looks like the unique solution..18:53
sam__awktion: :) good. you know how I can fix this??18:53
awktionhm18:55
awktioni'm thinking a user run httpd daemon accessable only from localhost18:55
Guest47615cannot see all partitions of drive, when option to choose partition for linux. it only showing single partition of drive.18:56
Guest47615for installation*18:57
Guest47615current os win 818:57
BeldarGuest47615, is it showing as unallocated?18:57
DrGrovGood evening to everyone18:57
Beldar!uefi | Guest4761518:58
ubottuGuest47615: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI18:58
Guest47615i don't rremember exact words. maybe.18:58
awktionalternatively, this looks doable http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219391&p=13002067#post1300206718:58
DrGrovI have gotten a hold of a server running Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit server and would love to get some X support on it so I can access a GUI from home to there. Running myself 13.10 64-bit. Just installed Fluxbox on that server.18:58
awktionDrGrov: you need the desktop kernel + ubuntu-desktop18:59
BeldarGuest47615, Please use an unusual nick so we can tab complete it when answering you, and use nicks when conversing.18:59
awktionthe rest should be pulled in18:59
Guest47615thanks. will browse the link. brb.18:59
bekksOn 14.04, there is no desktop/server kernel anymore. There is a generic kernel.18:59
DrGrovOk :)18:59
DrGrovThe reason I chose to get Fluxbox for that server is because it has a limited RAM of 512MB.19:00
bekksDrGrov: you should not run any desktop on a server :)19:00
DrGrovbekks: But I want to :)19:00
bekksDrGrov: Then get more RAM :)19:00
DrGrovLuckily this is just a test server on which I have a 7 days trial before deciding if I want it or not19:00
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DrGrovbekks: But surely I can get fluxbox to run with 512MB?19:01
bekksDrGrov: The desktop environment isnt the problem. the graphical applications you want to run are.19:01
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DrGrovbekks: Ok, so I can skip the fluxbox or any other GUI as an idea completely or just get more RAM?19:02
DrGrovBut I really do not want to run anything heavy on there.19:02
uskerinehi, in /etc/networks/interfaces, which is the exact syntax to specify TWO dns nameservers?19:02
bekksDrGrov: Just skip the idea of a GUI on a server.19:02
uskerinedns-nameservers 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4 ?????19:02
DrGrovJust a simple yet effective web browser with text, a bit of text editing and such19:02
pakairDrGrov, you could install vnc on that server19:02
bekksuskerine: without the ,19:02
uskerinedns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.419:02
uskerine?19:02
bekksuskerine: yes.19:03
DrGrovpakair: That being plain vnc or vnc-followed-by-something?19:03
pakairuskerine, that's google DNS19:03
DrGrovbekks: So, I can not get anything done without more RAM then it seems? :(19:03
uskerinei know, i use one of them as backup19:03
uskerinethanks19:03
pakairDrGrov, search for the vnc package how it is used. I dont remember the latest version.19:03
bekksDrGrov: Correct.19:03
DrGrovpakair: Ok, I just install everything I find then :)19:04
xeno_So guys, the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/458334 post in the usb install article got me past my problem.19:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 458334 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Fails repeatably with "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found"" [Medium,Confirmed]19:05
xeno_Thank you.19:05
xeno_Nevertheless, one should hope that bug will be fixed soon.19:05
xeno_What a drag.19:05
pakairDrGrov, try apt-cache search vnc ... there are plenty, choose one you like19:05
DevrimWhy would you use Google DNS :319:05
DevrimMaybe they log the addresses19:05
Devrimand they are gonna threathen you with it19:05
Devrim>:)19:05
DrGrovNow I found something19:07
DrGrovRDP19:07
semitoneshi :) is there a guide for fixing screen resolution problems? (googles some more also)19:09
DrGrovxrdp - Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server. That could do the trick perhaps?19:09
jgcampbell300so i have a windows 7 computer up and running ... I have a hard drive with ubuntu install from a diffrent computer ... I have put the ubuntu hard drive in with the computer running win7 ... i would like to dual boot it .. but im not sure the safest way to do this ... should i change the sata cables makeing the ubuntu hard drive the first bootable then update grub to include the windows drive or do it some other way ?19:09
BeldarGuest47615, More uefi install info, be sure that is what you have.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729519:09
semitonesI'm mostly finding out of date info on google / duck duck go19:09
xeonidsemitones:  ok , have u installed drivers for yout gpu ?19:10
Beldarjgcampbell300, Having the HD with ubuntu first red in the bios and a update-grub once in.19:10
Beldarread*19:10
semitonesxeonid, I had binary drivers that worked fine, but had an ugly boot screen, and switched to nouveau. Now I have a pretty boot screen, but nouveau doesn't detect my display19:10
jgcampbell300Beldar, ok thanks19:10
sam__http://askubuntu.com/questions/464481/swf-for-ubuntu-14-04                        Please answer to my questioin about swf files in 14.0419:11
Beldarjgcampbell300, No problem, I'm not up on how HD's are attached is all, all mine are just laptops that plugin HD.19:11
semitonesshould I report a bug in nouveau?19:11
xeonidsemitones:  what is your display resolution ?19:11
jgcampbell300Beldar, one more thing ... can you move ubuntu build between diffrent builds of computers ... like moveing from dell o755 to something compleatly diffrent like hp something like 570019:11
Guest47615Beldar | yeah, i cannot boot from cd/dvd or usb when it's set to uefi.19:12
Beldarjgcampbell300, We will see huh, probably will not be a problem, other than graphic drivers maybe.19:12
semitonesxeonid, it should be 1440x900, but now it is 640x48019:12
jgcampbell300cool thanks much im out to test ... thanks again19:12
Guest47615be right back.19:13
xeonidsemitones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/189246/how-set-my-monitor-resolution19:13
BeldarGuest47615, So the general consensus is to resize windows in windows with it's partitioner leaving a unallocated for ubuntu. Also imaging/cloning W8 off the HD to be fully prepared for anything.19:13
semitonesxeonid, thanks! I found something similar to this, but with no explanantion -- this one is explaining better, so I'll try it and see how it goes19:14
DrGrovArgh, I give up19:14
DrGrovbekks: You were right, as always. It is too tedious to fiddle around with trying  to get a GUI on this server :)19:15
bekksDrGrov: ;)19:15
DrGrovbekks: But I will be back later and check up and see what is going on. I will now completely restart the whole server. It is already a mess :)19:16
ridethespiralWow 14.04 actual doesn't run my discreet gpu at full throttle so I have to disable it (this gpu is fried :( ) I feel good about this install so far19:18
ridethespiralIs swap really necessary with 4gb ram?19:20
OerHeksno, unless you want advanced functions as sleep/hybernate, one of those 2 need a swap to save memory19:21
vlad_starkovQuestion: Could someone recommend me good DNS hosting?19:21
OerHeksvlad_starkov, that is outside the scope of this ubuntu support channel19:22
hidridethespiral 1 Gb max19:22
vlad_starkovOerHeks: Ok I apologies19:23
bekksridethespiral: if you want to use hibernation, you need as much swap as RAM.19:23
ridethespiralThanks, I'll include swap then19:23
_spm_DragetI am looking for the image that allows 'expert install' with choosing the packages manually to install.19:23
_spm_DragetSeems like I am unable to find it for 14.0419:24
_spm_DragetAny hints?19:24
ezakimaktrying to get X to use s3virge drivers. they are installed, and Xorg.0.log shows it looking for it, but failing to find/load the s3virge module. what's next?19:24
daftykins!alternate | _spm_Draget19:24
ubottu_spm_Draget: The alternate CD has been discontinued for the main Ubuntu distro, please use and report any bugs in the !LiveCD19:24
Beldar_spm_Draget, The mini net install.19:24
kostkon!mini19:25
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD19:25
theadmin_spm_Draget: The netinstall CD? Here you go: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04/19:25
_spm_DragetBeldar: The mini cd will als oinstlal the graphical installer, or?19:25
Paradisee_how can i solve this? http://postimg.org/image/z6igt4ls919:25
Beldar_spm_Draget, The mini installs the base, you do the rest.19:25
theadmin_spm_Draget: No, the installer is command-line, but it's pretty simple19:25
_spm_DragetAh okay, thanks. I'll try.19:25
Flannel_spm_Draget: the mini CD is the same installer as the alternate CD, it just doesn't include any packages on the CD itself19:28
BeldarParadisee_, YOU getting to the desktop?19:28
Paradisee_Beldar: nope19:28
BeldarParadisee_, This a fresh install, what leads up to this predicament?19:29
tomodachihi , i have a script i want to launch from a  laucher icon , but it fails19:30
tomodachii think its because the script needs to be run from the folder that its in19:30
Paradisee_Beldar: what you mean19:30
tomodachican i add some path or something to myapplication.desktop icons?19:30
BeldarParadisee_, I'm not sure I can explain any better. A picture means nothing without some background leading to it.19:31
theadmintomodachi: Sure, just like that: Path=/absolute/path/to/your/folder19:31
Paradisee_i was just installing ubuntu, and i get this19:31
Paradisee_there's nothing more to explain19:31
BeldarParadisee_, Ah, however that is important info, do you understand. This same thing can be caused by a handful of variables.19:32
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Beldar!nomodeset | Paradisee_ try this boot19:32
ubottuParadisee_ try this boot: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:32
Paradisee_i didnt do nothing special19:32
Beldar<Paradisee_> i didnt do nothing special  We don't know that unless you tell us.19:33
Paradisee_it return me to the terminal19:33
Paradisee_and i cant even run the de19:33
tomodachitheadmin: ah great thanx19:33
AndChat169904Ciao19:36
daftykins!it | AndChat16990419:38
ubottuAndChat169904: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)19:38
Jack_LaiwasПривет)19:39
theadmin!ru | Jack_Laiwas19:39
ubottuJack_Laiwas: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.19:39
AndChat169904Hello, someone can halp me about a problem with the last version of ubuntu?19:40
BeldarAndChat169904, Describe the release and problem to the channel.19:41
ezakimakanyone know how to make X see/find/load s3virge driver?19:42
semitonesHi! I used system settings to switch to the nouveau driver, and while it says I'm using nouveau now, It actually left some blacklists in modprobe.d, and I'm really using VESA. Is that a bug I can report somewhere?19:44
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ezakimakX -configure generates sig1119:44
ridethespiralI just got 14.04 installed and disabled my fried discreet gpu using an acpi_call module (which I compile for each new kernel, blah) but I'm getting an error on start-up that I never did with 12.04. See picture  http://tinyurl.com/mwdsch619:46
ridethespiralOh wait I think I fixed that before by installing the drivers for the radeon. let me try that19:47
Beldarridethespiral, You need a nick ridethe-edge19:49
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xeno_Anybody out there able to tell me the command in parted to see the range of sectors?19:50
xeno_I see there are at least 1000, and apparently less than 8000, but I should be able to see the highest partition, RIGHT?19:50
IkilledUBUNTU so i just killed my pc somehow. i dont even know what i did since i am noob. can i  ask some questions here?19:50
conallIkilledUBUNTU:ask away19:51
BeldarIkilledUBUNTU, This is ubuntu support, it does take some details, be prepared. ;)19:51
AndChat169904I have a freeze issue19:51
ridethespiralLmao Beldar19:51
ridethespiralLets see if this worked after a restart19:51
BeldarAndChat169904, When?19:52
AndChat169904Random19:52
AndChat169904But frequently19:52
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BeldarAndChat169904, Be sure to use the nick of who you respond to. How much ram do you have?19:53
Beldarwhat release and desktop as well AndChat16990419:53
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IkilledUBUNTUso i have 12.04 with gnome. Everything was fine. I installed today a VNC program so i can connect to a remote desktop. Everything cool. Then after reboot i couldnt login except as guest.  After  some searching i played with gdm  and i  manage to log in in Unity. Then by trying to fix gnome i somehow killed it. i purge it in order to reinstall it only to see i cant cause my source.list has problems. Anyway i was wondering, can 19:54
AndChat169904Belar all ubuntu based distroes 14.04, i have 4 gb of ram19:54
Guest98342hello19:54
zmihi guys i have problem ith network19:55
BeldarAndChat169904, Have you run top or htop to see if you are just swapping, due to a app using the ram, or just to much running?19:55
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semitoneswhat's the name of the "system settings" application?19:56
AndChat169904Belar it did not happen when i use an application in particular19:56
BeldarAndChat169904, Do you understand my refrence to swapping, and using top or htop?19:57
Beldarreference*19:57
AndChat169904Belar, Yes but I think i have enougth ram19:58
BeldarAndChat169904, Sure 4 gigs is enough, however this is a basic check, and a fair consideration, lets not get bogged down by an easy check.19:58
angelshi guys i cant connection to internet no wifi no cable no nothing19:59
bekksangels: you are connected to the internet currently.19:59
h1r3i have created a samba share, given all permissions needes and still i cannot access it from a remote computer... the machine is recognized, even the shared folder... however i am not able to access it... the reason: "The specified location is not mounted"... can somebody help me?19:59
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BeldarAndChat169904, I have a conky on the de to watch this stuff myself, and have the swappiness set rather low.20:00
ActionParsnipangels: what wifi chip are you using?20:00
angelsno i use other OS but since ubuntu i cant do it20:00
ActionParsnip!away > vifino|away20:00
ubottuvifino|away, please see my private message20:00
ActionParsnipangels: doesnt answer my question....20:00
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ezakimakE: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-video-s3virge20:00
AndChat169904Bwlar thank you i'll try20:00
ezakimakwhere can I find it?20:00
angelsi dont know what i use20:00
angelsim new in ubuntu20:01
ActionParsnipangels: sudo lshw -C network ,will tell you20:01
ActionParsnip!find s320:01
ubottuFound: libblas3, libcommons-collections3-java, libcommons-collections3-java-doc, libnss3, libnss3-1d, libnss3-dbg, libnss3-dev, libnss3-nssdb, libnss3-tools, libpgtypes3 (and 168 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=s3&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all20:01
vifinoActionParsnip: what?20:01
coolstarhow can I install Ubuntu 14.04?20:01
ActionParsnip!find s3virge20:01
coolstarI'm currently on Ubuntu 13.0420:01
ubottuPackage/file s3virge does not exist in trusty20:01
ezakimakokay, so how do I get the driver for it?20:02
M0DCM-DaveCoolstar either a bootable USB or DVD20:02
ActionParsnipcoolstar: you will need to upgrade to 13.10 then to 14.0420:02
coolstarM0DCM-Dave: I don't want to lose my data though :(20:02
angelsbut then i have to off this os , in this computer i have two OS ubunt and debian20:02
Beldar!eol | coolstar look for upgrade info20:02
coolstarActionParsnip: how do I do that?20:02
ubottucoolstar look for upgrade info: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:02
M0DCM-Daveor there20:02
M0DCM-Daveis that way :-)20:02
ActionParsnipcoolstar: or a clean install of 14.04 you can then use data backups to restore your user data20:02
ActionParsnipvifino: when you afk, just go. You dont need to change your nick.20:03
vifinoActionParsnip: Its default for my client.20:03
ActionParsnipvifino: can you please disable it20:03
vifinoAnd Many people want me to.20:03
vifino...20:03
ActionParsnipvifino: it spams the channel. Why do you think that factoid exists....20:04
Beldarangels, YOU have no wifi or ethernet, is this correct?20:04
angelsyes correct but when i use ubuntu i have debian and ubuntu here20:05
ActionParsnipangels: run the command I gave, it will tell us the wifi chip.20:05
ezakimakhow can I install the s3virge in trusty?20:05
coolstaroh wow software update just offered me to update to 13.1020:05
coolstaralright, let's see if that works20:05
Beldarangels, use nicks here when answering, do you know the ethernet and wifi hardware? It will show if you run 'lspci' in the terminal in ubuntu.20:06
angelsHardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.1620:06
angelsusage: lshw [-format] [-options ...]20:06
angels       lshw -version20:06
angels-version        print program version (B.02.16)20:06
angelsformat can be20:06
angels-html           output hardware tree as HTML20:06
unopasteangels you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted20:06
Beldarangels, pastebin the info from running lspci20:07
Aeternehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Change_the_Default_Session  Excuse me, but is this the method I should use if I want to set i3wm as window manager?20:07
Armag3dd0n1is there a way to reset all ubuntu apps and settings?20:08
ActionParsnipezakimak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-s320:08
BeldarArmag3dd0n1, not in one fell swoop.20:08
Armag3dd0n1swoop?20:08
Armag3dd0n1so basically need a resinstall?20:08
BeldarArmag3dd0n1, act, incident, one command20:08
ActionParsnipArmag3dd0n1: you can delete all hidden files and folders in home20:08
Beldarheh except that one20:09
ActionParsnipArmag3dd0n1: then log in, you will get default settings for apps20:09
ezakimakActionParsnip, what is that telling me?20:09
Armag3dd0n1really?20:09
daftykinsyou could just create a new user20:09
Armag3dd0n1what about the start, will everything be there?20:09
ActionParsnipangels: what did you run to make that output?20:09
angelscan you speak spanish20:09
daftykinsangels: not in here no20:09
ActionParsnipezakimak: gives packages you can install. I believe the s3 driver is installed by default20:10
ezakimakall I know is that xserver-org-video-s3 doesn't support the card, the package my card needs is xserver-xorg-video-s3virge20:10
ActionParsnipangels: try #ubuntu-es20:10
ezakimakthat's according to apt-cache show output20:10
daftykinsezakimak: clearly you're joking, such an old card is a waste of time and effort20:10
trismAeterne: you shouldn't need to do that, if you are using unity-greeter just click the ubuntu icon next to your name and select a different session, it will remember20:11
ezakimakwell, i'm on the phone w/my dad, he's installing this machine, I"m logged in remotely trying to get his X working for him, and that's the card he put ini t20:11
daftykinsthe S3 Virge had 2MB RAM and didn't support higher than 800x600 in colour20:11
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AeterneThank you, trism. I will try that!20:11
ezakimakthe card he has does20:11
daftykinsezakimak: ubuntu is not going to work on that old hardware. perhaps you have the model wrong20:11
ActionParsnipezakimak: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/xserver-xorg-video-s320:12
ActionParsnipezakimak: the s3 package runs s3virge too20:12
ActionParsnipezakimak: if you run: sudo lshw -C display ,what driver module is loaded?20:12
ezakimakthen why does apt-cache show say it doesn't?20:13
ezakimakand there is no s3virge module installed, only s320:13
ezakimakX tries to find s3virge module and fails20:13
ActionParsnipezakimak: what driver module is loaded for the display?20:14
AeterneOh god, Ubuntu makes it *this* effortless? That's so cool, and I say that as an Arch user. :P20:14
ezakimakwhen he tried it, it was in vga mode--1024x76820:14
ezakimakthe X log shows it looking for s3virge and failing20:15
pac1In Ubuntu 14.04, when I set the microphone to use Rear Microphone Built in Audio, and close the dialog, when I return, the audio is reset to Digital input s/Pdif.  Is there a way to make the mirophone stay set correctly?20:16
ActionParsnipAeterne: Arch is dead easy to install and use.20:16
BeldarIt's linux, only slight differences in the end20:17
ezakimakit's got i915 loaded20:17
Beldarerr the kernel is anyway20:18
ActionParsnipezakimak: isnt that for Intel GPUs?20:18
ezakimakbut the builtin intel video doesn't work anymore, thus he put in the discrete card20:18
skinuxIs there a way to search filesystem for all files of certain type (e.g. shell, executable)?20:22
ezakimakso is there any way to get the s3virge driver installed?20:22
ezakimakskinux, find20:22
skinuxAFAIK that only searches for specific text within files20:22
ezakimakno, it does not.20:22
drfooanyone know how I can connect to remote desktop from osx to ubuntu 14 -- ?20:23
skinuxCan you give me an example for searching for all shell files?20:23
ActionParsnipSkinux: sudo updatedb; locate searchword20:24
ezakimakfind / -iname '*.sh'20:25
Ademanskinux: find -name '*.sh'20:25
ActionParsnipDrfoo: what are you wanting to do in Ubuntu using remote desktop? There may be a sleeker solution20:25
Ademaner, mine is only under the current directory, ezakimak is right to search the whole computer20:25
Ademanalso it's worth mentioning .sh isn't the only shell extension...20:25
Armadillosskinux: Another way to do it is find / | grep ".sh"20:25
skinuxAdeman: Yes, that's simple. I mean for shell files that do not have .sh extension20:26
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Ademanskinux: grep the first line for the shebang you want?20:26
trismdrfoo: you are probably hitting bug 128125020:26
ubottubug 1281250 in vino (Ubuntu Trusty) "VNC accessible from non-linux machines only with encryption disabled" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128125020:26
ActionParsnipAdeman: or use the file command on each file to find them20:27
AdemanActionParsnip: that's a far better idea, good point20:27
ezakimakor find / -executable20:27
Ademanezakimak: that'll give you false positives of binary executables won't it?20:28
Ademanmight be a good optimization though20:28
ezakimakdepends what you are looking for20:28
bekksezakimak: Which will find a) all executables, not just bash scripts and b) not all scripts are executable20:28
ezakimakfind / -executable -a -iname '*.sh'20:28
ezakimakfind / -executable -o -iname '*.sh'20:28
bekksezakimak: using .sh as file extension for scripts is a bad habit.20:29
Ademanskinux: what are you trying to do exactly?20:29
ActionParsnipezakimak: in Linux the file extension is moot. Shell scripts dont have to have an extension20:29
ezakimaki know that.20:29
ActionParsnipezakimak: so why look for *.sh when it could miss files which are shell scripts without the extension20:29
ActionParsnipezakimak: it makes no sense20:29
ezakimakyou could try something like find / -exec 'head -n 1 {}\;' | grep '#/bin/bash'20:30
Ademanit's worth mentioning that `file $f` reports different things depending on if it's shebang line names /bin/bash or /bin/sh20:30
ezakimakfile may be the better test20:30
bekksfind, exec, head, grep - you will win the competition for one of the slowest solutions :)20:30
ezakimakfind / -exec 'find {}\;' | grep -i 'script'20:30
Ademanhrm, it reports the same mime type with --mime-type though20:31
ezakimakor 'ascii text'20:31
xeno_It would be so good if programmers could fix these things where you spend 99% of your time on the point in your install where it says 99% done.20:31
xeonidezakimak: open every file read first line and check if #!/bin/sh20:31
Ademantext/x-shellscript for both /bin/bash and /bin/sh20:31
ActionParsnipbekks: shouldnt be too slow on even old ish hardware20:31
xeonidbut it take more cpu time20:31
ezakimakanywhoo, does anyone know how to install s3virge driver on trusty?20:31
_spm_DragetWhich is the default grub package for 14.04? 'grub' or 'grub2'?20:31
ActionParsnipxeonid: in an age of quad core, im sure we have a few spare cycles20:31
bekks_spm_Draget: grub220:32
_spm_DragetAnd the netinstaller was what I was looking for - with the expert commandline mode.20:32
_spm_DragetThanks20:32
xeno_The present program in question being Startup disk creator.20:32
AdemanActionParsnip: I dunno, I think it's likely I/O bound not CPU bound, reading a lot from disk20:32
xeonidActionParsnip: but you must open every existing file20:32
xeonidActionParsnip: you cen only exclude the kernel images /boot  and vmlinuz20:32
xeonidcan*20:32
ActionParsnipxeonid: true but if you want accurate result you gotta take the hit20:32
Ademananyone in here used ftrace before?20:32
xeonidActionParsnip: the better way is to keep all your shell scripts in one directory20:34
ezakimakhow do I install a package from lucid in trusty?20:34
Ademanxeonid: well we actually have nfi what skinux is actually trying to accomplish...20:34
ActionParsnipxeonid: indeed. Hindsight is a wonderful thing20:35
bekksezakimak: you dont. It might break your system.20:35
ezakimakokay, so back to my original question. how do  Iget s3virge driver in trusty?20:35
Ademanezakimak: xorg-edgers maybe?20:35
skinuxWhat I want to be able to do is simply detect the type of files (which don't have extensions) without trying to open each in a text editor.20:36
ezakimakok, willing to try, how do I do that?20:36
Ademanskinux: the "file" command almost certainly does what you want20:36
ActionParsnipskinux: file will do that20:36
xeonidskinux: so try to write a script which exclude binary files , and only open every file without extension  and check for first line20:37
Ademanskinux: I ran "file bar" and it outputs this: bar: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable20:37
ActionParsnipskinux: eg. file ~/.bashrc20:37
Ademanwhere bar is indeed a bash script that I wrote20:37
bekksezakimak: Looks like your hardware is discontinued. Even xorg-edgers do not provide drivers anymore: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package_metas?exact_match=1&q=xserver-xorg-video-s3virge20:39
skinuxThanks. File command does fine, especially combined with grep20:39
ezakimakbekks, so no support for s3virge in trusty at all?20:39
bekksezakimak: Exactly.20:40
ezakimakbummer20:40
Ademanezakimak: if you're very brave you might try building it yourself, surely the code is around20:40
Ademannot sure if you need a kernel module AND xorg module, probably do20:40
bekksezakimak: that hardware is more than a decade old - and it was low end even when it was current.20:40
red45923Hi all, on ubuntu, got 50 images in a folder, if there is a nice tool to quickly put them all into an index.html file I would be very :)20:42
ezakimakokay, that's the kind of answer I needed, thanks20:42
xeonidred45923: PHP :>20:43
ActionParsnipred45923: ls *.jpg > ./filelist.txt20:43
ActionParsnipred45923: for example20:44
red45923will try ActionParsnip suggestion first20:44
Wu117I am trying to teach myself a little bit about networking and I have a question to "ports". What if I wanted to forward a port within a machine? I always read about ssh forwarding with 2 machines, but how could I make that all port y traffic on a server e.g. will be handled by a service that listens on port x?20:44
Ademanred45923: are you looking to have previews? or just a list?20:44
xeonidred45923: you want only to put filenames or img20:45
ActionParsnipWu117: you'd need a different port for each system on the router.20:45
red45923i want to stick em in an html page, preferably not manually, img src="pic.jpg' etc20:45
xeonidi think that one or two loops  will do this20:46
Ademanred45923: so you want people to see the images?20:46
Ademanin the html file?20:46
red45923yes20:46
ActionParsnipWu117: if your router will only forward to the same port number on the internal system, you can change the SSH port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config20:46
Ademanred45923: I'd google "static image gallery generator"20:46
c00lbardWu117: You want to forward from one port to another on local machine?20:46
Ademanred45923: one of the top google results for that was "igal2" which is in the repositories, you might try that out20:47
Wu117c00lbard: I want to forward incomming traffic on port 12345 to a service that listens on port 54321 on the same machine.20:47
Ademanred45923: http://igal.trexler.at/igal2-sample/ this is a sample of what it can create apparently20:47
Ademanso has anyone used ftrace?20:48
red45923thanks, gonna try ActionParsnip approach + vim first, see how much regexp i have forgot20:48
c00lbardWu117: You could checkout ipvsadm and iptables20:48
Wu117c00lbard: I don't know if I'm writing it too complex. Let's say for whatever reason a service doesn't run on the port I used before, but I told everybody that port, can I forward all traffic that comes to the old port?20:48
hyprvxHello, everybody!20:49
Wu117c00lbard: so this a thing what can be done? :)20:49
hyprvxHow good is TV Tuner support in Ubuntu 14.04? I have an old computer hooked up to a TV, and I have an old TV tuner card I want to hook up for backing up VHS tapes20:50
bekkshyprvx: Depends on the chipset of that tuner card.20:50
hyprvxIs there a list of chipsets I can look up in, bekks?20:51
hyprvx(or just compatible cards)20:51
bekkshyprvx: You need to know the chipset you have.20:51
dayis it possible to watch a movie across multiple displays with bezel correction?20:52
hyprvxbekks: Conexant Fusion 878A20:52
c00lbardWu117: Yes, iptables can be used to create a forward rule20:52
c00lbardWu117: Or prerouting rule20:52
Wu117c00lbard: thanks! I will search for it! :)20:52
bekkshyprvx: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Conexant_Fusion_878A20:53
c00lbardWu117: Something like this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport $srcPortNumber -j REDIRECT --to-port $dstPortNumbe20:53
red45923done it, i made it in vim from starting with : ls *.jpg > ./filelist.txt plus some search/replace, php would have done it too i'm sure as well as igal i am sure, thanks all20:53
Wu117c00lbard: oh, okay. I think I have some good keywords with iptables and prerouting now. Thank you!20:54
c00lbardWu117: No problem :)20:54
hyprvxbekks: would the command just be pretty much "sudo apt-get install bttv"?20:55
ActionParsnip!info bttv20:56
ubottuPackage bttv does not exist in trusty20:56
bekkshyprvx: No.20:56
bobin__HI everyone. New to user to ubuntu, and wondering if someone can help me get java to work? With best regards bobin20:56
ActionParsnipbobin__: do you mean the web plugin?20:57
bekks!java | bobin__20:57
ubottubobin__: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.20:57
hyprvxwhere would I acquire the bttv package?20:57
bekkshyprvx: Why do you want that package?20:57
ActionParsnipbobin__: webupd8 has a handy java ppa for Oracle Java20:57
bobin__ActionParsnip: No, to be more specifik JAVA_HOME20:58
ActionParsnipbobin__: i believe the PPA sets that postinst20:59
hyprvxThat's the driver package for Fusion 878A chipset tuner cards20:59
apb1963I updated knotes, it said to migrate, now I have no notes.  How can I get my notes back?  ubuntu 12.0420:59
bekkshyprvx: A package with that name never existed in Ubuntu at all: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bttv&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all21:00
bekkshyprvx: So, as can be seen, your assumption is wrong.21:00
bobin__ActionParsnip: Have googled and try many things i have open jdk installed but when i type ./javafile i get java_home not set21:01
ActionParsnipbobin__: what is the output of: java -version21:01
hyprvxalright, how do I obtain/install a driver module? or is this in the linux base? http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Bttv21:02
bekkshyprvx: You have to read that article, too.21:02
bobinjava version "1.7.0_55"21:02
bobinOpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.7) (7u55-2.4.7-1ubuntu1~0.13.10.1)21:02
bobinOpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.51-b03, mixed mode)21:02
ActionParsniphyprvx: if you run: dmesg | grep -i bttv ,do you see the module detected etc21:02
ActionParsnipbobin: thats the open java.21:03
bekksActionParsnip: No. Its the JDK 7 from Oracle.21:03
ActionParsnipbobin: ok, run: java ./javafile ,does it run21:03
bekksActionParsnip: 1.7.0_5521:03
bekksActionParsnip: Isnt it?21:03
ActionParsnipbekks: openjdk isnt Oracle dude21:03
nathaneltitanehello huys21:04
nathaneltitaneguys*21:04
nathaneltitanehaving a problem with wine on ubuntu 14.04 6421:04
bobinActionParsnip: getting this Error: Could not find or load main class21:05
nathaneltitanei'm trying to run a rendering engine and i am getting a GLU32.dll load error21:05
ActionParsnipbobin: id try Oracle java. May help21:05
xeonidanyone can recommend IDE for PHP with support control version support ?21:05
nathaneltitaneanyone have a clue on how to solve it? there is no i386 install candidate for the 32 bit nvidia libs i need21:05
ActionParsnipnathaneltitane: is this in Wine?21:05
nathaneltitaneyes21:05
bekksxeonid: eclipse21:06
xeonidbekks: any other ?21:06
ActionParsnipnathaneltitane: did you check the wine appdb for compatibility?21:06
bekksxeonid: Thats my only recommendation.21:06
xeonidbekks: thanks21:06
bobinActionParsnip: ok. The program Flashtool I'm trying to run says i needs Java version must be 1.6 or 1.7, How will i found the right version, I have googled it and what i found are installed so21:08
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metalbrickmy  Ubuntu Frozen every time when Memory usage over 80%21:09
daftykinsmetalbrick: memtest21:09
metalbrickcould u be more specific ?21:10
metalbrickthx21:10
InFiernorun memtest (its an option on boot,m or dl memtest x86)21:10
ActionParsnipbobin: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer21:10
alexherbo2Hi21:10
bobinActionParsnip: thanks21:11
alexherbo2How enable notification on sound change ?21:11
nathaneltitaneActionParsnip: well that is the least bit of an error as i get, if i switch to the 64 bit version of that package, it gives me a whooooooooooooooole lot more crap21:11
ActionParsnipmetalbrick: hold SHIFT at boot, select Memtest86+21:11
nathaneltitaneActionParsnip: it's a mtter of getting the glu32.dll to load21:11
metalbrickthat will do all the job?21:11
ActionParsnipnathaneltitane: did you check the wine appdb?21:12
metalbrickjust wait for the memtest  finished?21:12
ActionParsnipmetalbrick: if you see red, some or all of the RAM is bad21:12
nathaneltitanedoes not exist in it21:12
bonk3rzzanyone else have probs with netflix???21:13
ActionParsnipnathaneltitane: ah then you are in uncharted waters. The guys in #winehq may be able to help21:13
nathaneltitaneActionParsnip: the window version I am trying to run has a linux native build, but i need to use the windows version as a renderer for another windows only app21:13
metalbrickI post a thread on askubuntu21:13
metalbrickhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/464529/ubuntu-frozen-every-time-when-memory-usage-over-8021:13
ActionParsnipbonk3rzz: it doesnt work and the PPA is a seriously hacked version of winw to make Netflix work21:14
__raven_14.04 lts: networking problems similar to that: http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-internet-problem-in-ubuntu-14-04-after-upgrading-from-12-04-450806.html "waiting for network configuration" during boot - known solutions?21:14
metalbrickif this is a issue with bad RAM, why always when the usage reach 80%21:15
betty_kwheezy does not boot graphically later I had changed an driver option. It's log is in tty1. startx does not works, shoes: screen not found. Is there a simple (or not) way to fix it?21:15
ActionParsnipmetalbrick: if there are RAM errors it will cause issues. You need to make sure its ok21:15
metalbrickOK21:15
metalbrickI'll do that first21:15
bonk3rzzi have had it workin via ppa tons of times but after frest install today its not working21:16
betty_kwheezy does not boot graphically later I had changed an driver option. It's log is in tty1. startx does not works, shoes: screen not found. Is there a simple (or not) way to fix it?21:16
bonk3rzzyesterday it worked fine21:17
ActionParsnipbonk3rzz: contact the PPA maintainer to report the issue21:17
bonk3rzzlame21:17
ActionParsnipbonk3rzz: if netflix supported linux we wouldnt have the issue21:18
ActionParsnipbonk3rzz: so yes, netflix is lame21:18
bonk3rzzlol21:18
bobinActionParsnip: Sorry the say I did not work21:18
bonk3rzznetflix rox windows is lame21:18
OerHeksbonk3rzz, confirmed, netflix changed something, just wait and see21:19
MikeRLWell, that was fun being in pain and then puking from dental work for a week. Glad I'm better now. I still need help finding a way to report whatever is causing my boot issues.21:19
ActionParsnipbonk3rzz: until they support linux you'll probably have issues. Weirdly though they are happy to support Android...21:19
MikeRLA lot of the times I boot into Ubuntu 14.04, the keyboard doesn't work at all. LEDs are all lit up, though.21:19
bonk3rzzwitch is linux21:19
MikeRLAnd other times, it just hangs on bootup and never completes.21:20
ActionParsnipbonk3rzz: indeed21:20
ActionParsnipMikeRL: tried a different usb port?21:20
MikeRLBy the way, I do have the splash disabled, so I get all the useful boot information.21:20
MikeRLActionParsnip: Why USB port?21:20
ActionParsnipMikeRL: is it not a usb keyboard?21:20
MikeRLIt's not a USB keyboard. It's a laptop.21:20
MikeRLAn HP DV&-4285dx.21:21
ActionParsnipMikeRL: you never said that it was a laptop....21:21
MikeRLShould have. Sorry.21:21
bonk3rzzbtw how do you do the how at a person in hexchat like you did "bonk3rzz : indeed21:21
bekks!tab | bonk3rzz21:21
ubottubonk3rzz: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.21:21
MikeRLActionParsnip: I'll open a dailogue window with you.21:21
ActionParsnipbonk3rzz: tab conplete nicks. It highlights them for you too :-)21:22
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ActionParsnipMikeRL: have you tested your RAM?21:22
MikeRLActionParsnip, as soon as I done a fresh install of 14.04 I got issues.21:23
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ActionParsnipMikeRL: can you boot liveCD ok?21:23
MikeRLDoes tabbing (Hexchat automatically uses a comma afterwards) work to highlight people, or must I use a colon?21:23
MikeRLActionParsnip, is this message highlighted?21:24
bonk3rzzwell thx anyway21:24
__raven_14.04 lts: networking problems similar to that: http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-internet-problem-in-ubuntu-14-04-after-upgrading-from-12-04-450806.html "waiting for network configuration" during boot - known solutions?21:24
ActionParsnipMikeRL: yes21:24
bekksMikeRL: mentioning the name of a person is called "a hilight".21:24
betty_kwheezy does not boot graphically later I had changed a driver option. It's log is in tty1. startx does not works, shows: screen not found. Is there a simple (or not) way to fix it?21:24
MikeRLGood. So I see I don't have to use a colon.21:24
MikeRLActionParsnip, I have tried a LiveCD. Could try one multiple times and see the boot success rate.21:25
ActionParsnip__raven: have you modified /etc/network/interfaces ?21:25
MikeRLActionParsnip, but I have boot information shown, no splash. Anything I can upload?21:25
ActionParsnipMikeRL: could use imageshack etc if you take a picture with a camera21:26
MikeRLActionParsnip, I've had this issue for many weeks, and I'd like to get a bug report out of it if I cannot fix it. Thanks for your help, but multiple users from this and other Linux-related IRC channels have tried to no avail to resolve my issues with booting.21:26
MikeRLActionParsnip, How about any logs? Those may be better?21:26
ActionParsnipMikeRL: is the hdd ok?21:26
ActionParsnipMikeRL: could get the boot logs from the system in livecd21:27
MikeRLActionParsnip, Don't know 100%. Any way I can find out from the boot logs>21:27
MikeRLActionParsnip, Oops. Not good grammar on my end today.21:27
MikeRLActionParsnip, how would I get those logs?21:27
MikeRLActionParsnip, I'll write it down.21:27
betty_c'mon..21:28
ActionParsnipMikeRL: mount the partition and look in var/log21:28
MikeRLActionParsnip, Can I do that while in my install? It boots some of the time.21:28
MikeRLActionParsnip, I'm typing from it now.21:29
MikeRLActionParsnip, I can also check the hardware later if needed.21:29
k1lbetty_: for debian ask in #debian :)21:29
betty_k1l: Ok..21:30
MikeRLActionParsnip, I can boot up normally - some of the time. Now I'm in Ubuntu 14.04, and I can easily pull up logs from there. Which ones are of interest?21:30
kasteHello folks I am looking for a kind soul with a working texlive with biber on ubuntu who can verify for me that this segfaults for them as well tex file http://pastebin.com/99KRgsND bib  http://pastebin.com/KX7Am17B21:32
SigmaOfPopI am looking for an application that would prevent me from accessing certain applications over a pre-set time period.21:33
Tin_manone thing i've learned about linux, any version.. All good, but once you find one that fits, don't fiddle with it..21:33
Tin_manunless your in to "C" or such21:34
bobinHi folks. Can someone help me with setting Java_home? I have googled and googled and cant get it to work21:37
randomjerkMacBookPro6,1 - theres no wiki, which is the better one to go with21:37
MikeRLOK, so my issue remains.21:38
daftykinsrandomjerk: better one what?21:38
randomjerkwiki page to ffollow, dude21:38
daftykinsfor what?21:38
MikeRLThe keyboard doesn't work at all half the time when I boot up. Using a laptop with 14.04. LEDs are all lit up, though.21:38
MikeRLApparently I can find logs in /var/log. Which ones would be of interest?21:39
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ridethespiralI broke my install :/ damnit lol21:39
randomjerkthe installs not in the bootloader when i power it on21:39
daftykinsrandomjerk: use rEFIt or something21:41
randomjerk...21:41
ridethespiralHow can I uninstall fglrx from recovery?21:41
randomjerkjust ttell me which M to RTF21:41
daftykinsrandomjerk: i'm not looking for a guide for you.21:41
MikeRLNeed help. Laptop is practically unusable, and I have to reboot it more than half the time I boot it up because booting either doesn't complete, or the keyboard doesn't work at all.21:41
UsQUEwhats the difference between firewalld and ufs? I heared ufw don't allow zoning?21:41
daftykinsridethespiral: sudo apt-get remove fglrx*21:41
xeno_Looks like fvwm-crystal does nothing on Ubuntu server.21:42
daftykinsridethespiral: but you'll have to have remounted your / as read/write before you can do that21:42
ubuntu-studio.21:42
randomjerkdaftykins: page says pick your model, model not there... you'll have to excuse me for asking which one will be more helpful.21:42
_blkj #autotools21:42
ridethespiralOK I'll look up the command21:42
* randomjerk looks up rEFIt21:43
randomjerklol - not maintained.21:43
SigmaOfPopI am looking for an application that would prevent me from accessing certain applications over a pre-set time period.21:46
ridethespiralSweet I can get to the desktop now21:46
randomjerkSigmaOfPop: like an anti-drunk-dialing thing?21:46
viper3905gt1Bashing- u on?21:46
SigmaOfPopwell. more like a "Steam games are destroying my ability to do homework" sort of thing21:47
randomjerkthat would be the second guess.21:47
randomjerkI normally create a second user for that stuff21:47
randomjerkkeep the "restricted content" in just that users' homedir21:48
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SigmaOfPopwell. this is my own productivity21:49
ridethespiralso fglrx fixes the error I get on boot, but I can't get past the ubuntu splash screen... http://tinyurl.com/mwdsch621:49
SunkSullenGoing through hell trying to make grub my bootloader.21:49
__ravenhow to suggest if xubuntu is able to install to this or similar devices in case of secboot and boot- or flash process? "Aspire Switch 10"21:49
ridethespiralUninstall fglrx and I can get to desktop after that error..21:49
SunkSullenI have Ubuntu installed21:49
randomjerkSigmaOfPop: right - you can still have 2 users on the machine that are you...21:50
SunkSullenbut I can't seem to get it to boot withouth using boot menu21:50
SunkSullenAny ideas?21:50
SigmaOfPopYeah, but everything is in my own user system, and it would be too easy to switch over.21:50
SigmaOfPopI am looking, in essence, for a free linux version of netnanny21:50
randomjerki'm sure there's a sub-reddit about being motivated to do homework, but suggesting reddit never helped anyone21:51
SunkSullenSigmaOfPop check out elemetary21:52
_blkSigmaOfPop, http://askubuntu.com/a/7027721:52
SunkSullenSigmaOfPop http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=elementary21:52
SigmaOfPopThanks blk21:53
SigmaOfPopbecause quite honestly21:53
SigmaOfPopI don't want to have to install yet another distro just for productivity21:53
MohammadAGMeh, came back to my PC after a 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade and grub's on its prompt21:54
MohammadAGI tried update-grub / update-grub2 in a chroot, OSs are detected, but it still drops me into a prompt21:54
MohammadAGany suggestions?21:54
daftykinsMohammadAG: errors?21:55
MohammadAGnone21:55
daftykinsis it a multi-boot setup?21:56
SunkSullenno21:56
SunkSullenfor me21:56
SunkSullensame problem21:56
MohammadAGyes, for some (old, can't remember it) reason, it goes from Windows 7 boot screen selection -> GRUB21:56
SunkSullendamn UEFI21:56
MohammadAGI don't have/use UEFI21:57
SunkSullenlegacy?21:57
MohammadAGit's a custom desktop from 4 years ago21:57
vik123anyone here ?21:57
MohammadAGso yeah, legacy21:57
SunkSullenwell I'm going to try super-grub2 disc21:58
SunkSullensee i I can repair21:58
SunkSullenLAME21:58
vik123my laptop is overheating . its around 60 C  i use 14.04, however it was good with 12.04 . Is there anyway i can downgrade to 12.04 without affecting my programs21:59
daftykinsvik123: no21:59
vik123else dowgrade my kernal22:00
vik123downgrade*22:00
chicognuhttp://imgur.com/s4kuKh5 my files saved from dvr looks like that ... whys is this happing ?22:00
General_Linearhi22:00
vik123i use hybrid amd and intel graphics . that causes the problem22:00
_blkvik123, the 12.04 kernel is probably too far back to work.22:00
daftykinschicognu: maybe they're encrypted.22:01
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vik123_blk: yeah i know , but my laptop temp is around 60 C22:01
MohammadAGInstalled grub to MBR, that fixed it22:01
_blkvik123, it's probably the AMD GPU producing the heat so you want to get that down (unless you have 100% cpu usage).. are you using the binary blob?22:01
chicognudaftykins, i don't think so22:01
MikeRLHelp please.22:01
daftykinsMikeRL: have you looked up your model of laptop + ubuntu?22:02
vik123_blk: binary blob , dont know about it22:02
UbuntuBoyhMessengerey ppl, had a quick question. How do i get my Infinity Comcast to stream thru ubuntu14.04? i have tube working fine and have flash going. however when i go to my comcast site to stream movies it times out and just contun22:02
UbuntuBoyto kep buffing22:02
ridethespiralI had to use an acpi_call module to disable my discreet graphics because it was causing my laptop to overheat and shut off22:02
chicognudaftykins, it is videos saved from the cameras sistem ... i can play all they22:02
MikeRLdaftykins, it's a hpdv7-4285dx and Ubuntu 14.04.22:02
_blkvik123, the fglrx driver from AMD (binary only) or the open source radeon driver22:02
daftykinsMikeRL: that's lovely but you didn't answer my question22:02
canceri cannot seems to install linux with win 8, it's show free space when choosing partition for space. i'm currently running window 8 and i am trying for dual boot. i have disabled fastboot/startup and changed UEFI to CSM, Secure boot "Disabled" for USB boot but still having same partition issue for any linux distro.22:03
MikeRLdaftykins, I can, but it worked for how many previous releases.22:03
MikeRLdaftykins, and on 14.04 I have massive issues. I'll try Googling again, but I doubt I'll find the answer.22:03
lodabubI have a question about an unusual thing.  I'm trying to install libtinfo5 using dpkg on an amd64 system.  I did use dpkg --add-architecture i386.22:04
vik123_blk: i use default open source driver , because AMD driver heats too much than this . However it was opposite case for 12.04. AMD driver worked like a charm in that . got around only 40 C22:04
_blkvik123, while I don't have much experience with the non-open stuff, I think the catalyst driver has power savings options that the open source driver might not possess. So you could try installing the binary driver (there's plenty of documentation for that) and the use the catalyst control center to regulate the power consumption22:04
lodabublibtinfo5 i38622:04
UbuntuBoydoes anyone know why i cant get my infinty comcast to stream movies thru ubuntu14.0422:05
MikeRLdaftykins, I found similar questions related to Fedora. Nothing with an answer.22:05
UbuntuBoyim trying to stream my comcast movies thru ubuntu 14.04  and cant seem to get it to stream.. you tube works fine..22:05
DrGrovbekks: Hi, still there?22:06
MikeRLdaftykins, I'vve had this issue for about a month.22:06
vik123_blk: i tried catalyst driver , i ran into problem , i was not able to get into GUI . However i used the old version of AMD driver which i downloaded 5 months ago . i will check with the new one22:07
MikeRLdaftykins, Also I Googled and only got three pages of results. The most relevant thing was a bug I reported to other less serious keyboard issues.22:07
daftykinsMikeRL: seems like if you really need this thing working, you should go back to 12.0422:07
_blkvik123, I believe there's a way to install it from the ubuntu repositories22:08
OerHeksUbuntuBoy, as i understand right: xfinity Comcast content need silverlight, that is broken as of yesterday, netflix too.22:08
MikeRLdaftykins, I can wait. I just want to find the cause and file a bug report.22:08
daftykinsright, i can't help with that22:08
MikeRLdaftykins, It's messed up. Every non-LTS prior to 14.04 since 12.04 worked without major issues.22:09
MikeRLdaftykins, Who can help? I need help.22:09
canceri cannot seems to install linux with win 8, it's show free space when choosing partition for installation space. i'm currently running window 8 and i am trying for dual boot. i have disabled fastboot/startup and changed UEFI to CSM, Secure boot "Disabled" for USB boot but still having same partition issue for any linux distro.22:09
vik123_blk: u mean section 2.1 in this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD22:10
MikeRLdaftykins, Worth trying #ubuntu-bugs?22:10
daftykinsMikeRL: well, i can tell you right now that repeatedly asking in desperation isn't going to do anything but anger us22:10
randomjerkcame because i have a broken boot loader, stayed to watch others ask22:10
xeno_Okay, so now I have a fullyinstalled gnome-shell, and it just comes up a gray screen with no menus.22:10
daftykinscancer: you can't install ubuntu in legacy mode beside an EFI installation of windows 822:11
daftykinswell you can but you'd have to keep changing mode to boot each22:11
MikeRLdaftykins, I can find a log file and upload it. I'm only desperate because it's quite annoying. I know you guys are volunteers, but I have to file a bug report somehow.22:11
vik123_blk: should i follow section 2.1  or 3.2 . as its for hybrid graphics , which is my case22:11
cancerdaftykins | it's my first time with EFI type don't know much about it. confused. :|22:12
daftykins!efi | cancer22:12
ubottucancer: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:12
MikeRLdaftykins, I can try and calm down, but would it be best to try #ubuntu-bugs?22:12
daftykinsinstead of asking me you could've gone in and asked by now. but you don't know what to file a bug against22:12
MikeRLdaftykins, How do I find out what to file a bug against? That's part of the issue.22:13
_blkvik123, looks like a good starting point22:13
vik123_blk: which one should i follow 2.1 or 3.222:13
_blkvik123, I was thinking of using the "Additional drivers" (http://askubuntu.com/questions/301543/how-to-open-the-additional-drivers-window-using-command-line) but it may not cover your hybrid case..22:14
vik123as mine is Hybrid graphics22:14
_blkvik123, afaik Hybrid isn't really supported.. it's one or the other, and you need a reboot to switch22:14
cancerwindows is installed in CSM mode as i remember, coz it's won't boot in other option.22:14
MikeRLdaftykins, Would it be a safe assumption to say it's Xorg?22:15
_blkvik123, but I'm definitely not an expert on that! So unless somebody else knows more about that, it's trial-and-error22:15
daftykinsMikeRL: no. i have to go now so please relax on the highlighting me22:15
vik123_blk: k thanks for this . i will try :)22:15
MikeRLOK, sure.22:15
_blkvik123, good luck22:15
vik123:)22:16
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randomjerkubottu: help22:17
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:17
randomjerkoh - that's not help for the bot.22:17
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* randomjerk bets he won't be22:18
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randomjerkthe robot says grubrepair could be a thing22:19
randomjerkthe wiki says Boot-Repair - but it has some directions that just lead to me breaking my dpkg sources22:19
canceris wubi installation possible with windows 822:22
cancer?22:22
cancerwith UEFI/EFI board....!!22:23
k1ldont use wubi22:24
bigbadbenso I have a couple different sets of ssh keys in my .ssh how does the keyring know what ssh keys to use?22:25
* jackooo for those who just wake up 0x71.org is not social engineering http://i58.tinypic.com/53plw7.png http://i58.tinypic.com/53plw7.png http://i58.tinypic.com/2d9eq07.png http://i58.tinypic.com/255p3z4.png22:25
cancerk1l | So, What do you Prefer?22:28
k1la real install on own partitions22:28
funis there some easy way to mass rename parts of files names?22:28
cancerbut it's showing free space on partition a whole single drive.22:28
funfor example each file name that cointains pear changes that part to orange22:28
k1lcancer: ?22:29
fun????22:29
funlol22:29
cancerIt's not letting me chose partition for installation, i already have.22:29
semitoneshi! I have a low-res plymouth screen at boot. I found these instructions, but I need to know what they're doing so I can adapt them to my specific card. Specifically, what is "video=uvesafb:mode_option=1280x1024-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"" doing? http://askubuntu.com/questions/412233/low-resolution-on-boot-not-login22:29
k1lcancer: which filesystem do they have? can you make a screenshot of that installer part?22:30
cancerfor linux, i made a swap and one ext3 of 25 Gb. but installer show me 320Gb of drive total space.22:31
k1lcancer: did you choose manual partition in the installer?22:31
canceryes.22:32
cancerwait.22:33
apb1963what are people using for a pdf reader?22:33
apb1963ubuntu 12.0422:33
ridethespiralAfter installing 14.04 videos won't play (eg youtube) They load up but just don't play22:33
xanguaapb1963: evince is the default pdf viewer22:34
_blkapb1963, evince22:34
apb1963does it do annotations?22:34
_blkapb1963, kinda.. support is not great, especially in older versions.22:34
i7cHi, I installed nvidia-cuda-* and am looking for the samples which should come along with cuda but can't seem to find them. I also tried downloading them alone from nvidia but they don't seem to offer them. How can I get those samples?22:35
_blkapb1963, consider switching to 14.04 for updated features (I'm sure annotations are better, but not if it's good enough)22:36
agselanyone, how to restore data from one RAID1 drive?22:36
loaagsel, it is biggg problem) i was messing with it week earlier22:37
cancerk1l | what version you prefer to download for installation on EFI/UEFI type board and i want to run windows 8 too.22:37
loagoogle how you can mount it22:37
apb1963_blk: I've been using okular as it does annotations... it's really quite nice.  Unfortunately it requires some manual putting together (extra libraries) so it's a bit painful... I was hoping there was something as good, but with slightly less pain.22:37
loathere can be solution somewhere22:37
_blkagsel, what do you mean by "restore", undelete files (which isn't really a RAID problem), switch out a broken HDD - just pointing out the question specificity, I'm not sure I'll be able to help out22:37
_blkapb1963, I think there's a proprietary adobe reader for linux that might have better support.. no idea if it was updated in recent years though22:38
apb1963_blk: ok, thanks :)22:39
_blkapb1963, yw22:39
agselok, rephrasing. I have (hopefully) working RAID1 array (1TB both drives). I have a seagate NAS, which I guess broke down. Now I want to access my data from the drives. I only have one SATA cable, so I would like to access one drive.22:40
locutus666hey guys.  I am trying to figure out why this script isn't behaving like I would expect it to.  what I am expecting to happen is the script will autoconnect me to my vpn when not at one of the three locations listed, however I am at home and it is connecting me to my home vpn automatically22:40
locutus666http://paste.ubuntu.com/7449650/22:40
locutus666any help is appreciated :)22:40
CarlFKlocutus666: change all your `` to $() so I can read it easier ;)22:45
CarlFKlocutus666: what does this give you: cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep search | cut -d ' ' -f 222:48
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locutus666CarlFK, thanks :D.  I think I see the issue.  for some reason the resolv.conf is different now :S22:54
adamcunningtonHi, is there a command so that I can copy terminal output to clipboard22:55
adamcunningtonit would be cool to do this command -b blah | copy22:55
SchrodingersScat!info xclip | adamcunnington22:55
ubottuadamcunnington: xclip (source: xclip): command line interface to X selections. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12+svn84-4 (trusty), package size 16 kB, installed size 66 kB22:55
ridethespiralBlah. Videos started working but I have no audio.. many problems with 14.04 :(22:55
locutus666CarlFK, before the search domain said my domain, now (for some reason or another) it says my wifi network name22:55
SchrodingersScatadamcunnington: so it's like command -b blah | xclip22:55
adamcunningtonSchrodingersScat: wow that was quick, awesome - is that builtin?22:55
SchrodingersScatadamcunnington: since there's 2 separate clipboards, you can select between them.;  no, not built-in, says optional.22:55
CarlFKlocutus666: dhcp server sends that, and your laptop dhcp client writes it into resolve.conf22:56
adamcunningtonSchrodingersScat: can i use that after | pastebinit?22:56
locutus666CarlFK, is there a more "permanent" solution as it were?22:56
locutus666CarlFK, meaning another place to grab the same or similar info22:57
CarlFKadamcunnington: xclip -o | pastebinit22:57
adamcunningtonCarlFK: it looks like | pastebinit | xclip worked22:57
CarlFKadamcunnington: er, i see what you want.  yeah, that too22:57
adamcunningtonk cheers22:57
SchrodingersScatadamcunnington: ah, if you want the pastebinit link in xclip, then yep, that should be right.22:57
CarlFKlocutus666: 'yes'  but I am not sure how22:57
locutus666CarlFK, ok :).  I can work around it for now.22:58
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CarlFKlocutus666: my guess is I would mess with network mananger's connections and setup 4 or 5 of them22:58
locutus666CarlFK, sounds good. :)22:58
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mhsquireHello everyone23:00
mhsquireSo how do I debug ACPI issues with S3 suspend?23:01
djbeirutHi.. i am new to linux and i am having major packet loss to my ubuntu 14.04 vps. i don't think it's an issue with my vps provider. i think it's in my configuration. how can i troubleshoot this in ubuntu?23:03
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bencchow can I find what replaced http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/diff ?23:08
k1lbencc: see the description23:10
bencck1l: what description?23:11
k1lbencc: on the site you just linked23:11
bencck1l: I don't see description23:12
benccok diffutils23:12
benccthanks23:13
k1lit says: "dummy transitional package for diff -> diffutils"23:13
Bashing-omvip23:15
nomorebugsso i created a 14.04 unetbooting usb in order to install ubuntu. when i shoose default or other option i just get a black screen23:15
Beldar!nomodeset | nomorebugs23:16
ubottunomorebugs: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:16
nomorebugsok i will check it. thanks23:16
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: I am back, what now is the situation ? Been doing my homework,- still do not see a way to see what the routing situation is without you able to relay the info.23:17
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mhsquireSo I am having some ACPI problems. How do I start checking for bad drivers? This issue has to do with waking from S323:23
mhsquireI am pretty sure my system would fail this test https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/fwts/s323:25
nomorebugsubottu: i dont get a get a purple screen with a keyboard logo at the bottom so i am not sure how to set nomodeset . i am pretty noob... btw i have a dell laptop with nouvau? card23:26
ubottunomorebugs: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:26
nomorebugslol23:26
Beldarnomorebugs, unetbootin makes it harder to use the nomodeset option, the startup does not have the same gui as a disc.23:27
Beldarnomorebugs, or other usb loaders show.23:27
nomorebugsso what should i do?23:27
nomorebugsoh actually it seems like it is loading now!23:28
nomorebugsit just needed a few tries23:28
nomorebugsyep it loaded by itself... thanks though!23:28
Beldarnomorebugs, If you get to the desktop run a update and upgrade and check the additional drivers tab in software sources.23:29
nomorebugsok!23:29
mhsquireWhere do I learn to become a linux guru?23:30
Beldarmhsquire, Buddha23:30
mhsquireSo I should follow the big path or the little path?23:31
mhsquireBecause I would like the life of a monk.23:31
mhsquireHowever I also like the idea of having a social life.23:32
Beldarmhsquire, hehe, good answer, I'm not a guru, but just doing it seems to help.23:32
mhsquireYeah, it seems like ACPI issues are troublesome.23:32
mhsquireThere isn't good info online.23:32
nomorebugsi wont to copy my home folder from previous installation but it wont let me copy because of permissions. how  can i manage this?23:32
BeldarThe best help here seem to be IT linux pro in some form or another23:33
Beldarnomorebugs, Is it in it's own partition?23:34
mhsquireBeldar, is that a website?23:35
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Beldarmhsquire, No, just that the best help here seems to come from people who run linux in a professional environment, I don't know the exact market job names is all. However this is open source so some do this free contextually.23:38
mhsquireBeldar, I could see how helping others with problems would boost one's skill.23:39
Guest23784Im having some problems installing openssl manually on ubuntu server 2014, by any chance could someone help me on installing it manually. I checked the documents and guides, including INSTALL documentation, but I keep getting "make: *** [install_docs] Error 255" error when installing.23:39
Beldarmhsquire, I'm not your best help here though, I'm just an armchair enthusiast. ;)23:40
mhsquirehttps://01.org/linux-acpi/documentation/debug-how-isolate-linux-acpi-issues Says "Suspend to RAM Issues" TBD23:41
nomorebugsi have a previous Ubuntu installation on my hard disk.  And now i want to format the hard disk and install 14.04 . But i cant copy paste in order to back up the previous home folder. Any help?23:42
Guest23784Why dont you just upgrade rather than format your hard disk?23:43
Guest23784https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades23:43
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viper3905gt1Bashing-om: u on?23:43
nomorebugsbecause today i destroyd my 12.04 and i cant login with gui and it doesnt find external hard drive. So only choice is to format...23:44
sam__please answer to my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/464481/how-do-i-play-local-swf-files-in-ubuntu-14-0423:44
mhsquirenomorebugs, can you boot from the 12.04 disc?23:46
Guest23784nomorebugs, so you cant get into anything? not even login screen23:46
mhsquirenomorebugs, A disc might be the best way to go, as you could then use the same partitions.23:47
Bashing-omviper3905gt1: Yeah< I am here, Ya see my last (ist time ping at ya ?).23:47
nomorebugsnope. login screen is dead since i purged gnome and  my source.list is fucked up and i am also a noob :)23:47
Guest23784Yes, and you can mount your hard drive as well to copy over any needed files23:47
IdleOnenomorebugs: Please don't swear in this channel23:47
nomorebugssorry :(23:47
Guest23784oh okay, no problem. All you need to do is get ubuntu 14.04 live disk, mount hard drive, copy over anything thats important, and then you can install 14.0423:48
Guest23784that would be your best bet23:48
viper3905gt1Bashing-om: guess i dident23:48
mhsquireYeah I am considering upgrading.23:48
mhsquireI want to get this ACPI issue fixed though.23:49
nomorebugsi have a usb and i am  now with the default option of unetbooting just before installing. I just cant copy my previous home folder because of permissions...23:49
Guest23784That is perfect, do you have the hard drive mounted?23:49
Guest23784Like do you see the option?23:49
nomorebugsyep23:50
Guest23784Perfect, go to your terminal, type "sudo nautilus" without quotes, that will open up your file manager with sudo and copy over anything thats important23:50
PhlowHomeIs there a way to move the close/max/min buttons to the right in 14.04?23:50
Guest23784When its moved over you may want to consider chown-ing the files. Go to folder in terminal, "chown -R username:username /location/to/folder/23:51
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Guest23784Does anybody here have some advanced linux skills here by any chance? Im having problems compiling openssl from source on ubuntu server?23:53
nomorebugsGuest23784:  with nautilus it looks like it works23:53
Guest23784yep, you are using nautilus as the root user23:54
nomorebugsGuest23784:  although some files that i dont care said they couldnt move so i skipped23:54
Guest23784nautilus is your file manager23:54
Guest23784kk23:54
Guest23784you may want to open your terminal and "chown -R username:username /location/to/folder/" and then "chmod -R 755 /location/to/folder/"23:55
Guest23784but you have your files safe now so everything after will be a seperate permissions issue23:55
Guest23784Ubuntu has great docs on permissions:23:56
Guest23784https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions23:56
Guest23784Does anybody know of an Ubuntu Server IRC channel?23:57
OerHeks#ubuntu-server23:58
Guest23784Thanks23:58

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