[00:00] <AK47isMyADDRESS> hello :)
[00:00] <OerHeks> phuh, see man xxd -r(evert)
[00:00] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt: Umph, do make it more the difficult, and yeah, slip of the tounge there ifconfig ! .. Managed network where you do have network icon in the task bar at top of screen ? Have you tried to restart the connection from there ?
[00:00] <AK47isMyADDRESS> how can i change unity top launcher icon?
[00:00] <viper3905gt> no i havent let me try
[00:01] <viper3905gt> just as a note when i restart threw the terminal it dleats wut ever i did in the gui
[00:08] <viper3905gt> ok when i mouse over the network icon in the launch bar it sez unmanaged and duzent give me any option to restart
[00:08] <viper3905gt> would it work to just set it up and restart the computer?
[00:11] <inti> hello, how do i select a partition as root-point?
[00:12] <Guest43455> If I have a flash drive and one of the pins is snapped off from the head, should I resolder it back to recover it?
[00:12] <Guest43455> Or use a jumper cable?
[00:14] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt: Would not hurt a thing to try restarting the machine. Networking should just work, unless you have changed something.
[00:14] <rww> no, you should get a new flashdrive because they're dirt cheap
[00:15] <viper3905gt> ok when it boots it sez wating for netwotking device then it gose to say wating for network device for 60 seconts then it boots with out it
[00:15] <viper3905gt> how can i get it to boot WITH it
[00:16] <Bashing-om> inti: Back up the the intitial scrren, slect the partition where ubunti is to be installed, select 'chenge' in the resulting pop up set '/' in the "use as" field.
[00:16] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt: Are you on a router ? .. Last time I saw that situation, I had to power cycle my router.
[00:17] <viper3905gt> modem/router
[00:17] <viper3905gt> ill try that now
[00:17] <viper3905gt> ill be back if it dont work lol
[00:18] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt: At that time I could not ping my router, ya might try pinging the router just to see.
[00:21] <viper3905gt1> nope
[00:21] <viper3905gt1> its not loading the NIC
[00:21] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt: Do you know your routers IP ?
[00:21] <viper3905gt1> yep
[00:22] <sudormrf> hey guys, quick question about DEB files.  If I have a program currently installed and I then install a newer version with a DEB file, will the DEB file just overwrite the current version, or is it better to uninstall the current version first and install the DEB file?
[00:22] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt: what returns -> ping -c3 192.168.0.1 ( or what ever the router's IP is) ??
[00:24] <viper3905gt1> network is unreachable
[00:25] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: Not good, ok -> sudo lshw -C network <- this line "configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too" is a driver loaded ?
[00:26] <viper3905gt1> thats LSHW? but in lowercase?
[00:27] <DaRude2> viper3905gt1: what does nm-tool say
[00:27] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: Affirmative. lshw lowercase.
[00:28] <viper3905gt1> it sez network disabled
[00:28] <viper3905gt1> sorry my linux box is in the outher room
[00:29] <sudormrf> would what I am asking about break things?
[00:30]  * jamesd thinks it shouldn't matter where the linux box is, its all the same... the network is your friend....  
[00:30] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: " network disabled" is that from the lshw output ?
[00:30] <viper3905gt1> it sez configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e
[00:30] <Beldar> sudormrf, As an related example, math problems have more than one way to complete, that question is not really answerable overall.
[00:30] <sudormrf> Beldar: which question? my first or my second?
[00:30] <Beldar> in other words "it depends"
[00:31] <viper3905gt1> at the top it sez network disabled
[00:31] <Beldar> sudormrf> hey guys, quick question about DEB files.  If I have a program currently installed and I then install a newer version with a DEB file, will the DEB file just overwrite the current version, or is it better to uninstall the current version first and install the DEB file?
[00:31] <viper3905gt1>  Beldar: it should update the current .deb
[00:31] <sudormrf> viper3905gt1: thank you
[00:32] <viper3905gt1> if it dont work then uninstall and reinstall the new deb
[00:32] <viper3905gt1> iv never had it not work
[00:32] <helpmeplease> how can I kill the x server forom another terminal
[00:32] <Beldar> viper3905gt1, Sure till it does not, the problem is I see you have missed is it is not always true.
[00:32] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: sheessh, can you from the icon choose "enable Netwoeking " .. driver - e1000e - is loaded, should work !
[00:33] <viper3905gt1> duzent give me that option
[00:33] <viper3905gt1> im thinking some how iv turned off managed networking
[00:34] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: But -> ifconfig eth0 up <- brings the network up still ?
[00:35] <viper3905gt1> yes and no
[00:36] <Bashing-om> helpmeplease: Try -> sudo service lightdm stop <-, if in the unity DE.
[00:36] <stef1a> how do i change the keyboard shortucts permanently on ubuntu 14.04?
[00:36] <viper3905gt1> it turns the card on but theres still problums after that
[00:36] <viper3905gt1> ok i found where i turn on networking in the GUI
[00:37] <viper3905gt1> now it sez network manager not running please run
[00:38] <viper3905gt1> is there a way to just reset ALL network stuff to default? without reinstalling
[00:38] <Atomos26> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7418448/
[00:39] <qstrahl`> I made a custom launcher that launches a website in "app mode"; I gave it an icon, but in the dash it shows up with the chromium icon. What gives?
[00:39] <rootpt> can some one help me? im trying to install ubuntu in virtualbox but i can't..
[00:39] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: ->ipconfig <- in the output os "lo" is there "RX and TX packets numbers and " RX bytes:300 (300.0 B)  TX bytes:300 (300.0 B) in the output ? Maybe a bad cable here ?
[00:39] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: iPconfig?
[00:40] <viper3905gt1> he means ifconfig
[00:40] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: NO ifconfig .. dangit .. this is not NEC ! sheessh.
[00:44] <viper3905gt1> i got ya lol
[00:45] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: thanks, old habits hard to live down, agravates me to no end sometimes.
[00:45] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: ;)
[00:45] <viper3905gt1> i get a return rx tx of between 300ish and 400ish
[00:46] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: I submit that the problem is not in the machine, locla loop back is up and functioning, can not get out of the machine, suspect the cable or a bent pin on the card.
[00:47] <Bashing-om> local*
[00:47] <viper3905gt1> humm let me check
[00:47] <viper3905gt1> on the NIC port?
[00:47] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: I have dogs in my house, and it has happened to me.
[00:48] <viper3905gt1> it sez when it boots that it cant load the network?
[00:49] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: wont take long or much to swap out the cable with the machine you are on now, and a flashlight to look for bent pins on the NIC.
[00:50] <viper3905gt1> just checked and swaped the cable
[00:50] <viper3905gt1> rebooting for good mesure
[00:51] <viper3905gt1> and incase i forget later thankyou very much for the help
[00:52] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: NP, I do what little I can to help.
[00:52] <viper3905gt1> if this dont work im guna swap the drive and install agen on the new drive to make sure if it is or isent hardware
[00:53] <skidawgz> I have some questions about my raid5 drive and setting it up in fstab, is this the correct place to ask?
[00:53] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: I have not used teh Network Manager in ages, It still "Might" be a config problem // ???
[00:54] <viper3905gt1> ok if all els fails how can i move a joomla website to a new install?
[00:56] <viper3905gt1> do i just need the www folder? and how do i back up my database and restore it?
[00:57] <MasterOfDisaster> viper3905gt1: DB is what? mysql?
[00:57] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: Moving a server, tall order, clonzillia (??), current situation -> cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf <- do you see "managed=true" // ??
[00:59] <viper3905gt1> MasterOfDisaster: yes mysql lite
[00:59] <viper3905gt1> Bashing-om:  let me check
[00:59] <MasterOfDisaster> viper3905gt1: look up mysqldump
[01:00] <MasterOfDisaster> viper3905gt1: backing up the database, files and httpd config should suffice.
[01:02] <cdaringe> hi all.  i'm curious if theres a way where I can watch for a process, then execute a process once if that process starts/exists/etc
[01:03] <viper3905gt1> Bashing-om: false
[01:03] <MasterOfDisaster> cdaringe: hm... incrond could work, if you point it to /proc
[01:03] <jamesd> cdaringe: the hackish way is to replace the executable with a scipt that does what you want it to do, and then execute the orginal command
[01:04] <cdaringe> yea, i was thinking about symlinking the binary, but I want the app to be able to update without issue/etc and not have to update the script every time the binary change.  Regularly changing app*
[01:04] <viper3905gt1> if i nano edit that to say true would things work better ??? lol
[01:04] <MasterOfDisaster> cdaringe: what process do you want to execute on launch?
[01:05] <compdoc> viper3905gt1, would you rather set your manually, or let network manager do it?
[01:05] <MasterOfDisaster> cdaringe: if your goal is monitoring/auditing, have a look at auditd and a remote syslog.
[01:05] <viper3905gt1> networkmanager
[01:05] <viper3905gt1> as long as i can set the static ip in networkmanager
[01:05] <jamesd> cdaringe: you could just add a special PATH so your script executes and calls the orignal file, original never changes, you just add your script first in the PATH=~/bin:$PATH
[01:06] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: oohh, make it so ! .. should be [ifupdown]-> managed=true, then try sudo service networking start. let's see what happens.
[01:06] <compdoc> viper3905gt1, cant you add an interface in network manager now?
[01:06] <cdaringe> MasterOfDisaster: a bash or php script
[01:07] <viper3905gt1>  compdoc: i can but it wont work or stay
[01:07] <MasterOfDisaster> cdaringe: what jamesd suggested is the easiest to do, but might break on an update.
[01:07] <tripelb> I could do everything with gnome no teaching. so how do I look at a list of programs so I can pick the program I want, which by the way would do IRC.
[01:08] <tripelb> 12.04
[01:08] <zykotick9> jamesd: fyi, ~/bin is automatically in a users PATH, if it exists when they login
[01:08] <compdoc> viper3905gt1, do what Bashing-om says
[01:08] <tripelb> , but that shouldn't make a difference, should it?
[01:09] <Bashing-om> compdoc: -> viper3905gt1  I am reaching here, all help is appreciated.
[01:09] <cdaringe> I also want it to be compatible with osx, so a more unixy approach is ideal.  In osx, the user will be double clicking the app, therefore the $PATH solution may not be the winner.  I know right, more conditionals keep flown in :)
[01:09] <compdoc> Bashing-om, viper3905gt1, set managed to true.
[01:10] <jamesd> zykotick9: okay, wasn't aware, i have custom .bashrc scripts on my systems... and have to make sure my stuff runs on all unix/linux systems so i don't code based on one feature of a certain distro
[01:10] <zykotick9> jamesd: well, i certainly doubt it's a feature in all gnu/linux distros... but certain debian based ones...  just point it out is all ;)
[01:11] <compdoc> viper3905gt1, can you run:  sudo lspci | grep net        does it find anything? what does it find?
[01:12] <zykotick9> compdoc: lspci does _not_ need sudo
[01:12] <compdoc> dont care. I always use sudo out of habit
[01:12] <viper3905gt1> ok when i start networking it sez stop/waiting
[01:12] <compdoc> viper3905gt1,   ^
[01:12] <zykotick9> compdoc: that's a bad habit, and certainly not one you should teach others
[01:13] <compdoc> zykotick9, its not a bad habit when youre troubling shooting something like this. youre welcome to take over
[01:14] <eleventeen> When my upgrade hangs on "flashplugin-installer: downloading..." should I just kill the update process and start over?
[01:14] <viper3905gt1> sez "controler intell" dont look like anything importan
[01:14] <AK47isMyADDRESS> hi how do i change unity search icon?
[01:14] <AK47isMyADDRESS> i can't find any good info on google
[01:15] <MasterOfDisaster> cdaringe: yeah - if you move away from linux in terms of compatibility, a sh compatible wrapper script is your best option.
[01:15] <viper3905gt1> compdoc: lol i have the same bad habbet already
[01:15] <compdoc> viper3905gt1, its a wired nic?
[01:15] <viper3905gt1> yes
[01:16] <MasterOfDisaster> cdaringe: other options might be more convenient, but only available on one or the other.
[01:16] <Beldar> eleventeen, Can you detail "upgrade" within a release or to another.
[01:16] <eleventeen> Beldar: 12.10 to 13.10
[01:16] <tripelb> a little sleuthing and I remember texture and didn't work at all. I didn't even look for extending the system but decided to download it. It gives me a choice of Windows operating systems or for Dora. Wonderful Ubuntu! How do I do IRC?
[01:17] <tripelb> Fedora
[01:17] <compdoc> does ifconfig show an eth0, eth1, eth2, etc?
[01:17] <viper3905gt1> only if i sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[01:18] <viper3905gt1> when i boot it sez it cant start networking so it boots with out it
[01:18] <Beldar> eleventeen, the words upgrade and update have multiple means within contexts. Can you give an exact description.
[01:18] <Beldar> meanings*
[01:19] <MasterOfDisaster> eleventeen: sharing which command led to your problem might make it clear.
[01:20] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: As you are running a static IP, what is in /etc/network/interfaces ?? -> iface ethX inet manual ??
[01:20] <eleventeen> Beldar: standard upgrade from the latest 12.10 to 13.10, just pushing the "upgrade" button when promted by the updater.
[01:20] <eleventeen> MasterOfDisaster: idk what commands the gui updater uses, but them.
[01:20] <zykotick9> viper3905gt1: fyi "sudo ifconfig -a" will show you not configured interfaces as well...
[01:20] <MasterOfDisaster> eleventeen: ok.
[01:21] <viper3905gt1> i waz running a static ip then my modem went out n i replaced it then for some reson i had to redo it then it worked till i rebooted then it dident work
[01:21] <Beldar> eleventeen, There is 13.04 between those two, and 12.10 is eol and may need a specific upgrade path.
[01:21] <eleventeen> It said something like "your 12.10 is up to date, but you can upgrade to 13.10" (paraphrase)
[01:22] <eleventeen> 13.04 was not an option
[01:22] <Beldar> eleventeen, If you are in the download stage in this freeze not the install you can shut it down. I would check the sources list though after.
[01:23] <viper3905gt1> Bashing-om: zykotick9: it shows eth0 and eth1 and the loopback but it duzent show any iface or ip or anything for them ....eth1 is built in wifi that i dont use
[01:24] <Beldar> eleventeen, I have not seen a upgrade from 12.10 to 13.10 skipping 13.04, myself, might be one, but from a eol that seems rather strange.
[01:24] <eleventeen> Beldar: This is the install phase. The flashplugin-installer doesn't contain the actual flashplugin, presumeably because it's proprietary junk, so the installer downloads it separately during the install phase.
[01:25] <Beldar> eleventeen, You said "my upgrade hangs on "flashplugin-installer: downloading..." so this hang is what?
[01:26] <eleventeen> Beldar: that nothing happens now; I'd guess it ran into problems downloading the flashplugin tar.
[01:26] <Beldar> I never upgrade so not sure if this is just your personal concern or an actual problem
[01:27] <tripelb> And so, it was frozen  solid
[01:27] <tripelb> noooo
[01:27] <eleventeen> Beldar: I can't upgrade because crap is broken somewhere (probably Adobe's servers), so yes, it is a problem.
[01:28] <eleventeen> I'd appreciate some insight from someone who's actually familiar with the upgrade process, though.
[01:28] <Beldar> eleventeen, Right and your question was if in the download, can you shutdown, yes you can, just not on the install.
[01:29] <eleventeen> Beldar: however, this is the "Installing the upgrades" phase. Is that not a problem?
[01:29] <viper3905gt1> if u want to upgrade just run sudo apt-get update then run sudo apt-get update
[01:29] <Beldar> eleventeen, I have said yes twice that do not shut down on the install.
[01:29] <viper3905gt1> 2nd one should of ben sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:29] <eleventeen> Beldar: I realise that; I think we may be experiencing trouble with a language barrier.
[01:30] <tripelb> and so, Useless Brothers, i added the ppa, updated it, installed Hexchat,then realized I had to update all since I only just installed the system, offline. Did this action do all the things that installing with the online connection does?
[01:30] <Beldar> eleventeen, Hardly, read what you have posted and the wording.
[01:30] <ccslover> hi everyone in my workspace settings menu i noticed that i am missing number of workspaces option now. all i have is horizontal and vertical workspaces.
[01:30] <Beldar> I'm a US citizen, you?
[01:30] <ccslover> im using ubuntu 14.04 lts
[01:31] <eleventeen> Beldar: I am as well. I guessed that you weren't, though.
[01:31] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: We do not have an IP for some reason, maybe adressing in /etc/network/interfaces ? what returns from -> route -n <- .
[01:32] <ccslover> does anyone have any suggestions on why i dont have this setting anymore?
[01:32] <viper3905gt1> Bashing-om: destanation gateway genmask ... but nuthing under them
[01:34] <tripelb> I'd like to point out that the Internet Relay Chat page makes no listing of hexchat which is the clients it actually can do IRC.  .. it does mention text chat is she doesn't have a loader for a version for UbuntuC
[01:34] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: We ain't getting out of house ( machine), your machine has static IP, and the router is handing out DHCP ??
[01:34] <bazhang> tripelb, what version of ubuntu are you on
[01:34] <ccslover> I am on ubuntu 14.04
[01:35] <tripelb> 12.04 and sorry i am doing THIS on a tiny phone. sorry typos
[01:35] <tripelb> bazhang: 12.04 the latest LTS.
[01:37] <ccslover> has anyone even heard of this being missing?
[01:37] <viper3905gt1> Bashing-om: router is ser for static ip @ 192.168.1.100 with ports 80 8080 21 22 forwarded and that haz worked for the past year
[01:38] <tripelbcopy> bazhang: changed  ic
[01:38] <tripelbcopy> bazhang: changed  nick so i can sign on from ubuntu laptop
[01:40] <bazhang> tripelbcopy, the latest LTS is 14.04
[01:41] <Xheartt> besides gparted is there another program to format hardrives totally? I have an old harddrive and would like to use it as an external hard drive to store info.
[01:43] <viper3905gt1> y not use gparted?
[01:45] <viper3905gt1> works fine for anything except for a drobo
[01:46] <Beldar> Xheartt, There are handfuls of gui and cli options, what is wrong with gparted, it seems rather straight forward?
[01:48] <tripelbcopy> bazhang: I can't log in because I didn't specify SASL properly somewhere on hexchat. I am overwhelmed with difficulties ..this is why Ubuntu is not good for everybody.
[01:49] <crasic> Not sure if this is the right channel to ask
[01:50] <crasic> I have a wierd problem uploading my package to my ppa on launchpad
[01:50] <crasic> Building for precise 12.04, pbuilder-dist builds correctly locally, but launchpad build fails
[01:50] <tripelbcopy> bazhang: and I knew how to find it and download it. and not use the xchat that doesn't work on U. .. and I knew how to do the people that.... really I'm quite advanced and I'm having all these problems.
[01:51] <crasic> the build generates source files in the build directory but that isn't being processod on the launchpad build
[01:51] <tripelbcopy> bazhang: well I can't use it because I have no system to download it on and I don't have real internet here just phone internet so la de da I still need to do it now here with this
[01:56] <bazhang> tripelbcopy, I'm using hexchat with sasl on 14.04 from the repos, it's dead easy
[01:56] <Xheartt> hi
[01:57] <Xheartt> hello
[01:58] <tripelbcopy> bazhang:  now looking up how to configure hexchat. -- I am sure glad the old Android phone does hotspot.
[01:58] <Xheartt> why am i getting this message when i want to see a webpage >>Enter password to unlock your login keyring
[02:00] <Xheartt> why am i getting this message when i want to see a webpage >>Enter password to unlock your login keyring
[02:01] <viper3905gt> its kinda like the auto login for chrome
[02:01] <crasic> You have a password/username stored for that website in your keyring
[02:02] <Xheartt> no i do not
[02:02] <Xheartt> maybe for another webpage but not for the one i opened
[02:02] <arkore> fuck it.  just going to boot back into windows and use vagrant instead.
[02:03] <quotemstr> Is Launchpad still the right upstream for Compiz?
[02:04] <crasic> Xheartt: can you verify that you do not in fact have a keyring entry for that website (even if blank)
[02:04] <Xheartt> i will check , thanks
[02:06] <kostkon> quotemstr, i'm guessing yes
[02:07] <crasic> Xheartt other solution is to change keyring password to blank, this will prevent the dialog from showing
[02:08] <Xheartt> i usually just close the window and keep on. thank you for responding crasic
[02:09] <crasic> What is the right channel to ask launchpad/packaging questions?
[02:10] <teward> crasic, #launchpad for launchpad, #ubuntu-packaging for packaging questions
[02:10] <TheFakeazneD525> Hello, I'd like some help with the audio in ubuntu
[02:10] <teward> crasic, high patience is required in both those channels, though
[02:10] <kostkon> crasic, take your pick https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[02:11] <crasic> teward: thanks, I assumed so
[02:11] <kostkon> crasic, or what teward said
[02:11] <teward> :P
[02:11] <teward> crasic, you're welcome, but when in doubt, the channel list that kostkon linked you, or #ubuntu-irc, might be your best resource
[02:11] <teward> crasic, usually the channel list will be your best resource :)
[02:11]  * teward drifts back into the shadows
[02:12] <darius93> why do ubuntu have nginx 1.4.6?
[02:12] <darius93> and not anything higher
[02:13] <TheFakeazneD525> darius93: there are many packages to package
[02:13] <TheFakeazneD525> plus, that might be a more stable build
[02:14] <Jordan_U> arkore: Please watch your language. If you're still interested in trying to get Ubuntu working properly, please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install" and "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop".
[02:17] <lucastt> what button is used to show the menu in applications?
[02:17] <darius93> TheFakeazneD525, but 1.4 is extremely old even when it is considered "stable"
[02:18] <TheFakeazneD525> odd
[02:19] <TheFakeazneD525> darius93: there might be a PPA for that
[02:20] <darius93> it is a ppa but i was just wondering since 14.04 is a LTS it should contain something more up-to-date by now
[02:23] <teward> darius93, PPAs are updated by their respective teams
[02:23] <teward> darius93, if they haven't put anything recent in it, then that's an issue you take up with them
[02:23] <teward> !ppa
[02:23] <aarobc> Would it be possible to set my wallpaper to a network stream?
[02:23] <captainmustard> I think you can use VLC for that aarobc
[02:23] <darius93> tearms, i wasnt using a ppa at first. I was using the one from ubuntu repo itself. The PPA is using 1.6.0 for nginx (stable release?)
[02:23] <awktion> o:
[02:24] <teward> darius93, nginx ppa is the one i maintain
[02:24] <teward> darius93, 1.6.x is the stable release, if you want the 1.7.x series use mainline
[02:25] <teward> Trusty has 1.4.whatever because freeze hit before 1.6.x was available
[02:26] <teward> (especially since 1.6.x/1.7.x were very recent nginx releases)
[02:27] <darius93> ah forgot that it was released after 14.04 came out
[02:28] <teward> darius93, yep.  if 1.6.x had been released prior to the 14.04 freezes, it might've made it in
[02:28] <teward> darius93, that's why the PPAs exist, for Ubuntu, because we can't always get those versions in that we want, because of the release cycle dates
[02:28] <darius93> well time to use the ppa then lol
[02:29] <teward> darius93, i usually update them when a new release comes out, give or take a couple days, or a week at most, depending on my work schedule.
[02:34] <Guest38410> ?
[02:35] <Guest38410> ?hello anyoone out there?
[02:46] <au_> hi, I just deleted a folder with 80gb content but have still the same free disk space. and it's not in .local/share/Trash. so how to find it?
[02:47] <UbuNoob> mk3548208: are you using drbd
[02:47] <crasic> how did you delete it
[02:48] <tripelbcopy> bazhang: oh dear I did everything right except : Methodist will text chat
[02:50] <KD8MST> topic
[02:50] <pleasehelppme> Hey guys! I'm still stuck on installing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a VM, just wondering if anyone can help me figure out what i'm doing wrong. I am encountering this error: sda1: WRITE SAME failed. Manually zeroing. when trying to log in
[02:51] <pleasehelppme> So far I've confirmed that the .iso I'm using is indeed the correct one (via md5) and I'm not using Wubi anymore
[02:51] <ccslover> hi, im running ubuntu 14.04 an i am missing the option number of workspaces  which recently dissapeared.
[02:51] <ccslover> can anyone help me out?
[02:52] <kostkon> ccslover, need to install ccsm for that
[02:52] <ccslover> i have ccsm.
[02:52] <kostkon> ccslover, oh. maybe in the unity plugin settings
[02:52] <ccslover> the option was there and now it has dissappeared everywhere
[02:52] <UbuNoob> question is there an app better than  fusesmb
[02:52] <ccslover> cant find it anywhere
[02:53] <ccslover> all  i have is horizontal and vertical workspaces now
[02:53] <ccslover> so my  cube doesnt work etc
[02:53] <Knight80> How can I change a mount point on xubuntu?
[02:55] <ccslover> any suggestions?
[02:58] <Blue_Knight> pleasehelpme: Your VM HDD is of what type?
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> fossils
[03:01] <Blue_Knight> !rules
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> (I meant to type that in #trivialand, I promise)
[03:02] <SonikkuAmerica> (Also, I'm a seasoned IRC contributor, I know what the rules are :D)
[03:02] <Blue_Knight> SonikkuAmerica: I'm going there...
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Coincidentally I can also say I haven't had one in 10 years
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Interesting...
[03:05] <idimmu> hi
[03:06] <idimmu> is this #neckbeaddating ?
[03:06] <Seven_Six_Two> idimmu, sortof. It's actually #ubuntu, but what's the difference, really?
[03:07] <idimmu> my hobbies include compiling xfree, esotoric kernel network drivers and the nautilus file dialog
[03:07] <idimmu> none of which will get me laid
[03:07] <idimmu> but
[03:07] <idimmu> all of which wont get me herpes
[03:07] <idimmu> hi
[03:07] <idimmu> how u doin'?
[03:08] <Seven_Six_Two> idimmu, this is an official support channel. Can you please phrase your come-on from within an Ubuntu context?
[03:09] <idimmu> hi Seven_Six_Two
[03:09] <idimmu> yes i have 2 very important questions
[03:10] <idimmu> about ubuntu
[03:10] <Seven_Six_Two> 42
[03:10] <idimmu> cos im upgrading
[03:10] <idimmu> are you ok to answer them>
[03:10] <idimmu> ?
[03:10] <Seven_Six_Two> if I know the answer is 42, definitely. Otherwise, maybe. Ask and see.
[03:10] <idimmu> ok fantastic
[03:10] <idimmu> first
[03:11] <idimmu> if i hired you as a sysadmin contractor for my current project, what is your day rate?
[03:11] <Seven_Six_Two> it depends on your project and my duties.
[03:11] <idimmu> ok
[03:11] <idimmu> second question
[03:12] <idimmu> sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[03:12] <idimmu> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[03:12] <idimmu> No new release found
[03:12] <idimmu> i did this qhilst trying to upgrade
[03:12] <idimmu> and thats not cool
[03:12] <idimmu> do u know the answer?
[03:12] <idimmu> cos like im not 14.04
[03:12] <Seven_Six_Two> idimmu, what release are you going from/to
[03:12] <idimmu> and that should totally be 14.04
[03:12] <idimmu> mmm
[03:13] <idimmu> ok hold on
[03:13] <idimmu> is it cat /etc/redhat-version that tells me the answer?
[03:13] <pakair> idimmu, cat /etc/issue
[03:13] <Seven_Six_Two> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:13] <Seven_Six_Two> it's at the end of each line. there's another place too, but I don't remember
[03:13] <idimmu> ah thanks im all over that
[03:14] <idimmu> cat: /etc/sources.list: No such file or directory
[03:14] <idimmu> calm:~ rus$
[03:14] <idimmu> is that ok?
[03:14] <idimmu> btw my name is rus
[03:14] <idimmu> and the server is called calm
[03:14] <Seven_Six_Two> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:15] <idimmu> is that an ok servername?
[03:15] <Seven_Six_Two> idimmu, if you like. That's the benefit of having your own server.
[03:15] <idimmu> before i worked with ibm this is like similar but different
[03:15] <qin_> idle would be more precise
[03:15] <meccooll> Will i continue to get all security updates and patches if i downgrade to 12.04?
[03:16] <Seven_Six_Two> meccooll, yes, but I don't think you should try to downgrade. reinstall.
[03:17] <idimmu> meccooll: why do u want to downgrade?
[03:17] <idimmu> thats the better question?
[03:20] <zykotick9> !downgrade | meccooll
[03:20] <idimmu> Seven_Six_Two:
[03:20] <idimmu> cat: /etc/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory
[03:20] <idimmu> calm:~ rus$
[03:20] <idimmu> i did his
[03:20] <idimmu> whats up??????
[03:20] <zykotick9> meccooll: personally, i'd replace "may break" with "will break"
[03:20] <pakair> idimmu, cat /etc/issue
[03:20] <meccooll> ok so reinstall it is
[03:20] <Seven_Six_Two> idimmu, can you paste the output of     uname -a
[03:21] <meccooll> idimmu, can't get my monitors to work with radeon driver so thinking of downgrading so i can use legacy ati binaries
[03:22] <Seven_Six_Two> meccooll, do you have a separate /home partition?
[03:23] <idimmu> omg meccooll i had that a while ago
[03:23] <idimmu> hey pakair
[03:23] <idimmu> calm:~ rus$ cat /etc/issue
[03:23] <idimmu> cat: /etc/issue: No such file or directory
[03:23] <idimmu> het Seven_Six_Two
[03:24] <idimmu> calm:~ rus$ uname -a
[03:24] <idimmu> Darwin calm.config 13.1.0 Darwin Kernel Version 13.1.0: Wed Apr  2 23:52:02 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2422.92.1~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
[03:24] <idimmu> calm:~ rus$
[03:24] <Seven_Six_Two> idimmu, ok, so you're not using ubuntu, you're on a mac I think
[03:24] <meccooll> idimmu, what did you end up doing? I for the life of me can't get a 4th monitor to not glitch on radeon drivers
[03:25] <pakair> idimmu, you're not running ubuntu ...
[03:25] <idimmu> yeah Seven_Six_Two i prefer macs they're better but why cant i downgrade my rpm?
[03:25] <zykotick9> pakair: actually, they aren't even running linux
[03:26] <Seven_Six_Two> idimmu, I don't know. tbh you're asking in the wrong place. I don't know how to downgrade an rpm in osx
[03:26] <idimmu> meccooll: i got a mac, it solved all my hardware problems other than running redhat on debian, thats still kinda strange
[03:27] <meccooll> Seven_Six_Two, no but i have everything backed up so there's nothing that i need
[03:28] <idimmu> im not sure Seven_Six_Two knows what hes talking about, meccooll if u have backups ur ok
[03:28] <idimmu> do u use dropbox?
[03:28] <Seven_Six_Two> lol. I think I am confused right now.
[03:28] <idimmu> ive backed up all my ms word files with dropbox
[03:28] <idimmu> its good
[03:29] <meccooll> idimmu, i have another PC that i back my stuff to
[03:29] <pakair> I lost it after finding he is on a Mac ... this is the Ubuntu channel.
[03:29] <idimmu> this one time linux torvalds accepted my kernel patch as a bug fix
[03:29] <aperson> silly question, can I have a line like `*/10 * * * * bash /home/user/scripts/start_*` in my crontab to start all scripts that start with start_?
[03:29] <Seven_Six_Two> idimmu, you asked about   sudo do-release-upgrade   but that's not something that you do on mac
[03:29] <idimmu> but #ubuntu based off my debian package that they stole as it was lgpl banned me from swearing
[03:29] <idimmu> the internet is a strange place
[03:30] <Seven_Six_Two> idimmu, what is your issue?
[03:30] <idimmu> Seven_Six_Two: my viagra isnt selling well :(
[03:30] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there any way to chat with skype people without using skype program in ubuntu?
[03:30] <mojtaba> by using sth else?
[03:30] <xangua> mojtaba: no
[03:30] <idimmu> mojtaba: yes
[03:31] <idimmu> virtualbox and windows
[03:31] <idimmu> will work every time
[03:31] <Seven_Six_Two> mojtaba, it wasn't possible before, and Microsoft sure as something isn't going to allow it now!
[03:31] <mojtaba> idimmu: any other?
[03:31] <idimmu> sure vmwar and windows
[03:31] <mojtaba> :~
[03:31] <idimmu> no its ok i use it
[03:31] <mojtaba> damn microsoft
[03:32] <pakair> aperson, set one script to contain ALL other scripts and run that. Take a look at /etc/rc0.d/
[03:32] <nith1210> mojtaba: If by "skype" you mean video call, Google Hangouts also works well in Ubuntu.
[03:33] <aperson> pakair↳ i was thinking that's what I'd have to do, I was just trying to avoid writing another script
[03:33] <nith1210> nith1210: If, however, you literally mean video call using skype, then sorry, not that I know of.
[03:33] <mojtaba> nith1210: there is video conference holding in skype, so how can I join it?
[03:34] <nith1210> mojtaba: Sorry, I don't know, I don't use skype.
[03:34] <pakair> aperson, crontab does not like wildcards ... you can list all your scripts and throw them in an editor and set them correctly.
[03:34] <idimmu> nith1210: ok but this one time i addef social commentrary where i wasnt redundant
[03:45] <nith1210> !help
[03:46] <Seven_Six_Two> mojtaba, in linux? I don't think the linux client for skype has the conference call features. just one on one.
[03:46] <mojtaba> Seven_Six_Two: yes
[03:47] <mojtaba> Is there anything like skype for linux?
[03:47] <Seven_Six_Two> mojtaba, google hangouts
[03:47] <holstein> plenty of things
[03:47] <holstein> mojtaba: nothing that is allowed to connect to skype network
[03:48] <holstein> not on that level
[03:50] <dw1> mojtaba: why dont you just use skype :/
[03:52] <mojtaba> dw1: how?
[03:52] <dw1> mojtaba: sudo apt-get install skype
[03:53] <mojtaba> dw1: Is it safe in terms of security?
[03:53] <dw1> mojtaba: who knows
[03:53] <dw1> mojtaba: everything has bugs...
[03:53] <dw1> mojtaba: what kind of security
[03:53] <mojtaba> dw1: It is a microsoft thing.
[03:54] <dw1> mojtaba: it runs as a user, no root permission
[03:55] <Seven_Six_Two> mojtaba, but everything will go through microsoft-controlled servers, and can be watched.
[03:56] <dw1> yes by bill gates in his evil lair :)
[03:56] <_[myth> Bill Goat
[03:57] <dw1> but taht would exist with anyc lient
[03:58] <Saeedullah> Hello Every body
[03:58] <dw1> !hi
[03:58] <Saeedullah> i am new in this chat room i want to learn basic Ubontu
[03:58] <Saeedullah> plz help me dear all friend
[03:58] <_[myth> Go install Ubuntu at http://ubuntu.com/
[03:59] <Saeedullah> ok
[03:59] <dw1> or you can run a liveusb to try it out
[03:59] <Saeedullah> i install the ubuntu
[03:59] <Saeedullah> i have already install ubuntu
[03:59] <Seven_Six_Two> Saeedullah, that was super fast.
[04:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Saeedullah, what do you want to know?
[04:00] <Saeedullah> seven_siz_two how can possible to learn it
[04:00] <Sohron> Saeedullah: nobody here can just help you "learn basicUbontu" :D
[04:00] <dw1> Saeedullah: i recommend a google for: ubuntu basics
[04:00] <Saeedullah> dear i want to know how to configure DHCP in ubuntu
[04:01] <dw1> usually its automatic
[04:01] <dw1> wth 1, anywaywireless
[04:01] <Sohron> Saeedullah: http://www.linuxine.com/node/270275 this is still somewhat useful
[04:01] <dw1> with wireless, anyway
[04:02] <dw1> just click your network and enter password .. voila
[04:02] <Saeedullah> <Sohron where from you?
[04:02] <Sohron> finland
[04:02] <kostkon> !manual | Saeedullah
[04:04] <Saeedullah> how to enable root user in ubuntu?
[04:04] <kostkon> !root | Saeedullah
[04:05] <Sohron> kostkon: thanks, didn't know about that :)
[04:05] <kostkon> ;)
[04:05] <Sohron> might just be for me too
[04:06] <Sohron> i'm not new to *nix, but quite new to ubuntu
[04:07] <env> #hdbits
[04:07] <Saeedullah> what is sudo?
[04:07] <pakair> Saeedullah, man sudo
[04:07] <Seven_Six_Two> !sudo
[04:08] <dw1> sudo is like jumping in a phonebooth and ripping off your clark kent costume
[04:09] <qin_> haha
[04:09] <dw1> you need it to save the world
[04:10] <Saeedullah> what is sudo?
[04:10] <dw1> everything runs as a restricted user unless you run as root user or with sudo
[04:10] <dw1> so you need sudo to upgrade the system etc
[04:11] <qin_> Fundamentaly? sudo gives you root like power without root
[04:11] <dw1> its for terminal commands
[04:11] <dw1> otherwise in graphic mode you might just get asked for password and it will secretly do sudo
[04:12] <dw1> google it .. much faster to learn
[04:12] <Seven_Six_Two> !cli
[04:13] <Seven_Six_Two> !zsh
[04:13] <pakair> sudo is a concatenation of 'su' - substitute user and 'do' - take action.
[04:14] <Locke2002> til
[04:15] <cridenour> In rescue mode, I am unable to get internet when I chroot to /target. Is there a way around this?
[04:15] <qin_> pakair: i always thought that is form adjective "pseudo"...
[04:16] <Seven_Six_Two> qin_, +1
[04:17] <qin_> \o/
[04:17] <Saeedullah> how to enable root account in ubuntu?
[04:17] <nith1210> cridenour: after chrooting (assuming you properly mounted /dev /proc and /sys), do a dhclient -v
[04:17] <nith1210> cridenour: alternatively, forcfully set your resolv.conf, you have internet, just no dns.
[04:17] <Saeedullah> how to configure DHCP in ubntu?
[04:18] <qin_> Saeedullah: You shall not, and we must not tell you. Google do not try to hide it.
[04:18] <cridenour> nith1210: ah might have to do the second as I'm fixing a broken system that can't load mount ha
[04:18] <cridenour> nith1210: good to know.
[04:18] <nith1210> cridenour: Can't load "ha" ?
[04:19] <qin_> Saeedullah: What do you want to configure, DHCP lease is issued by your router. Do you mean DHCP server?
[04:19] <holstein> Saeedullah: you shouldnt need to enable a root account, and you dont need it for DHCP.. what is your goal?
[04:19] <cridenour> nith1210: just laughing at my own misfortune. never broke mount before.
[04:19] <justin_> how can i command line to see which version of mate im running>
[04:19] <justin_> >
[04:19] <justin_> ?
[04:20] <qin_> justin_: lsb_release -a
[04:20] <justin_> ta!
[04:20] <qin_> no
[04:20] <holstein> justin_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/see-what-version-of-a-package-is-installed-on-ubuntu/
[04:20] <nith1210> cridenour: sorry, the option with resolv.conf is only true if by "rescue" you mean a livecd.
[04:20] <Saeedullah> holstein my goal is want to learn it
[04:20] <nith1210> cridenour: eitherway, dhclient should fix it if I remember correctly
[04:21] <holstein> Saeedullah: learn what? DHCP? as a server?
[04:21] <cridenour> nith1210: It is a livecd.
[04:21] <nith1210> cridenour: which explains the /target; you're trying to fix a broken mount?
[04:21] <cridenour> nith1210: yea. I get mount (and umount)  command not found
[04:22] <holstein> Saeedullah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server ,though, you are likely just trying to setup a static IP?
[04:22] <justin_> lsb_release -a   seems only to show the OS, not the desktop environment version
[04:22] <nith1210> cridenour: ls -l /bin/mount
[04:22] <nith1210> cridenour: My guess, your $PATH is wrong.
[04:22] <cridenour> nith1210: No such file or directory
[04:22] <Saeedullah> holstein tanx friend
[04:23] <kongda_> Hello, I'd like to write an application to recognize three finger touch pad gesture on Ubuntu. Could anyone point me to the right direction?
[04:23] <cridenour> nith1210: I did get dns working though! so apt-get install --reinstall mount should be an option now.
[04:23] <qin_> justin_: sorry, mate. I really did not seen question properly, apt-cache policy mate; I guess
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> !dev | kongda_
[04:23] <nith1210> cridenour: is this a desktop machine or server?
[04:24] <kongda_> Cool! Thanks.
[04:24] <cridenour> nith1210: server,
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> kongda_: also join #ubuntu-devel the guys might point you in right direction
[04:25] <kostkon> lotuspsychje, #ubuntu-app-devel
[04:25] <pakair> justin_, try gnome-system-monitor -s
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> kostkon: is that for specific app writing?
[04:26] <kostkon> lotuspsychje, for general app development yes
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> kostkon: tnx for the hint
[04:26] <nith1210> cridenour: there is a command to install all of the ubuntu server packages, I just don't remember it.
[04:27] <holstein> !lamp
[04:27] <cridenour> nith1210: good point. if mount is missing, who knows what else is.. ha
[04:29] <Saeedullah> what is ubuntu?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> for all users who like to install ubuntu from usb on older machines that cant first boot usb try this: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[04:29] <nith1210> cridenour: is ubuntu-minimal installed?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | Saeedullah
[04:29] <Saeedullah> yes
[04:30] <nith1210> cridenour: found it. "tasksel"
[04:30] <Saeedullah> open source operating system means?
[04:30] <nith1210> cridenour: sudo tasksel install server
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Saeedullah: google is your best friend, keep this channel for ubuntu support mate
[04:31] <cridenour> nith1210: it ran but i think aptitude still believes mount to be installed so it didn't change
[04:32] <Saeedullah> dear plz explain me coz i am new one in this chat rooom
[04:32] <qin_> !foss | Saeedullah
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Saeedullah: we have an offtopic channel to discuss the coolest topics at #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:33] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: if you think google is your "friend" i'd really hate to meet your enemies...
[04:33] <nith1210> cridenour: so /bin/mount is missing?
[04:33] <qin_> Saeedullah: It is not a "chat room" only channel
[04:33] <xWolfz> Hey #ubuntu.
[04:33] <nith1210> cridenour: that is, it's still missing?
[04:33] <Saeedullah> ubottu plz give one example in open source operating system
[04:33] <Saeedullah> sorry dear
[04:33] <xWolfz> When I type the command env, it gives me a lot of information, which to the noob is not understandable.
[04:34] <Saeedullah> yes this is channel
[04:34] <cridenour> nith1210: yup
[04:34] <cridenour> nith1210: still missing.
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: we could discuss ' a matter of speaking' in ot too :p
[04:34] <xWolfz> Can anyone send me a link that explains this information.
[04:34] <nith1210> cridenour: are you sure your chroot is mounted correctly?
[04:34] <Saeedullah> plz give one example in open source operating system
[04:34] <pakair> cridenour, I think mount is /sbin/mount
[04:35] <nith1210> xWolfz: "env" with no other arguments, prints "<NAME>=<VALUE>" pairs which your default shell has loaded in it's environment
[04:35] <qin_> xWolfz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[04:35] <cridenour> nith1210: paths is /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
[04:35] <xWolfz> Thanks qin_ and nith1210
[04:36] <nith1210> cridenour: right, but can you explain how you set up "/target" before chrooting into it?
[04:36] <Saeedullah> dear my question is not solved open source operating system mean?
[04:36] <cridenour> nith1210: 90% sure. Well the broken boot was for a missing mount and that's reflected here.
[04:36] <cridenour> pakair: I seem to have mount.ntfs-3g, mountall and umount.aufs - but not mount or umount
[04:36] <cridenour> nith1210: I allowed the livecd to set it up. It's a LVM
[04:37] <nith1210> cridenour: I see, I supposed I've only ever done it manually with a livecd.
[04:38] <qin_> Saeedullah: What means that you are offerd access to source code is system you are using which often is connected with right of redistribution. You would want to do some independent research online too.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Saeedullah: did you read the FOSS link that qin provided you?
[04:38] <pakair> cridenour, my error, try locate mount | grep bin
[04:39] <Saeedullah> qin brother explain me
[04:39] <holstein> Saeedullah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software
[04:40] <Saeedullah> how to learn basic ubuntu?
[04:40] <qin_> Damn, I need new keyboard...
[04:40] <Saeedullah> holstein you are my real friend
[04:40] <Saeedullah> tnx holstei
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Saeedullah: there are some good ubuntu ebooks and online tutorials
[04:40] <holstein> Saeedullah: http://opensource.com/resources/what-open-source
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | holstein
[04:40] <cfhowlett> !manual|Saeedullah less time on IRC and internet.  more time reading.  start with the manual
[04:40] <abhra> version of PSPP, the statistical analytical software, is old in the repository; at least by two years. launchpad bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1318160
[04:41] <Saeedullah> dear i tell you
[04:41] <Saeedullah> i am new select of lecturar in university
[04:41] <dioioib> Saeedullah: i also means you can freely use the opperating system at no cost to you even if you want to use if for commercial reasons.
[04:41] <Saeedullah> i have alot of problem
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> !info pspp
[04:41] <cfhowlett> Saeedullah that's WHY you read.  http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[04:41] <holstein> Saeedullah: ask, if you have a support question
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> abhra: whats your version mate?
[04:42] <Saeedullah> holstein okay brother
[04:42] <Saeedullah> i want to learn step by step if u help me
[04:42] <cridenour> pakair: /bin/mount and /bin/umount are listed in that
[04:43] <dioioib> Saeedullah: you are actually asking a difficult question? How do you intent to use ubuntu? are you going to use Ubuntu Server or Desktop?
[04:43] <holstein> Saeedullah: sure.. just reference the references given, and ask anything you like
[04:43] <pakair> cridenour, /bin/mount calls /sbin/mount.whatever upon the parameters you give
[04:44] <Saeedullah> yes
[04:44] <Saeedullah> brothere
[04:44] <Saeedullah> i am working in a bank tooo
[04:44] <cfhowlett> holstein I'm on ubuntustudio - no "welcome to ubuntu" manual.  there USED to some kind of welcome document in vanilla buntu.  Is that now gone?
[04:44] <abhra> lotuspsychje, presently using version 0.8.3 (pspp) in xubuntu 14.04. same problem for ubuntu 14.04 as well. the version available in the repository is 0.7.9.
[04:44] <Saeedullah> i am using ubuntu for DVR Backup
[04:44] <Saeedullah> now i  join the university
[04:45] <Saeedullah> as a teacher
[04:45] <Saeedullah> i want to learn from basic
[04:45] <holstein> Saeedullah: please use this channel only for support.. chatting about the bank and univiersity is welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:45] <holstein> Saeedullah: just install ubuntu, use it, and ask if you have a question..
[04:45] <Saeedullah> i have installed ubuntu in my system
[04:45] <holstein> Saeedullah: sure. then, use it, and ask what you like.. *specifically*
[04:45] <Saeedullah> holstein brother
[04:45] <Saeedullah> tnx
[04:46] <Saeedullah> from you
[04:46] <dioioib> Saeedullah: what basics do you want to learn? installing software? Using the Unity interface? can you please be specific?
[04:46] <Saeedullah> yes dioioib
[04:46] <cridenour> pakair: interesting. I seem to have most of the sbin versions. See any issue with a apt-get install --reinstall mount?
[04:46] <Saeedullah> how to installing software?
[04:47] <pakair> cridenour, it should reinstall correctly
[04:47] <dioioib> Saeedullah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[04:47] <holstein> Saeedullah: i suggest not installing software for a while.. i suggest using the system as is, and get comfortable.. but, there is a "software center" in the menu, where you can browse and install what you like
[04:47] <cfhowlett> Saeedullah and you 've been advised repeatedly where to start reading - something a teacher should have no problem with.  so leave IRC, download the manual and books and start learning.
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> abhra: did you add this ppa? https://launchpad.net/~adamzammit/+archive/pspp
[04:48] <dioioib> Saeedullah: start there after you install the software as holstein suggests. There are actually about 3 different ways to install software in ubuntu.
[04:48] <holstein> Saeedullah: you can also ask how to install something in particular, like, a web browser you prefer, or, *anything* else you want to ask.. but, you'll need to ask
[04:48] <cridenour> pakair: it did. going to try and reboot the system
[04:49] <pakair> cridenour, good
[04:49] <cridenour> pakair: that seemed to do it. i'm a little worried that it disappeared to begin with, but at least i'm in.
[04:49] <cridenour> thank you both pakair and nith1210
[04:49] <abhra> lotuspsychje, i know about it; but i am talking about the older version available in the repository. i am a little bit hesitant about using external, untrusted ppa. thanks for the advice though
[04:49] <pakair> cridenour, np
[04:49] <Saeedullah> dioioib tnx brother
[04:50] <nith1210> cridenour: I'm still trying to think how you got to where you are...
[04:50] <Saeedullah> holstein tnx from too
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> abhra: not sure where else to point you mate
[04:51] <cridenour> nith1210: was attempting to get nsenter (for use with docker) and had to update util-linux
[04:51] <abhra> lotuspsychje, additionally, there is git repository available for it. i could compile the software from there as well.compiling the latest software is not the problem; the older version present in the repository is the problem
[04:51] <abhra> lotuspsychje, no problem; thanks for the effort.really appreciate it
[04:52] <cridenour> nith1210: built from source - but I can't imagine their makefile would touch mount.
[04:52] <Saeedullah> holstein how to configuer ip address and subnetmask and default getway?
[04:52] <holstein> Saeedullah: you just have to ask what you are trying to do
[04:53] <nith1210> cridenour: When you say you built it from source, do you mean that you also did a sudo make install or something equiv?
[04:53] <AK47isMyADDRESS> hi when i try 2 delete a image from home folder it tell's  me "Can't Be Put In Trash Delete Immediately?" help plz
[04:53] <holstein> Saeedullah: you shouldnt have to.. you should connect to the gateway, and the DHCP server there gives you an address.. if thats not the case, you need to specifiy what restrictions, or configurations you are specificially encountering
[04:53] <cridenour> nith1210: yea.
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> someone knows where to point abhra to rapport outdated software on ubuntu rep?
[04:54] <nith1210> cridenour: Ahh, ok. mount is included in that packge by the look of it. I recommend "apt-get source util-linux", upgrade the source in that package to the latest, then build it.
[04:54] <nith1210> cridenour: takes longer, but far cleaning
[04:54] <Saeedullah> holstein brothere i have static ip adderee in every system
[04:54] <cfhowlett> AK47isMyADDRESS so the option should be to delete immediately
[04:54] <nith1210> cridenour: *cleaner
[04:54] <Saeedullah> i want to open google in ubuntu?
[04:54] <cridenour> nith1210: ah will do.
[04:55] <cfhowlett> Saeedullah you're on the internet now via IRC, so clearly you know how to fire up the browser.  your claim that you don't know how to google is suspicious
[04:55] <AK47isMyADDRESS> cfhowlett: it has never done this b4, i wanna sent it 2 trash only
[04:55] <holstein> Saeedullah: sure.. so, on *any* other system, look and see what the configuration is, and set ubuntu that way
[04:56] <kostkon> AK47isMyADDRESS, have you got enough space in your hoem and how big is the file
[04:56] <cfhowlett> AK47isMyADDRESS might not be possible due to the file size
[04:56] <AK47isMyADDRESS> 2mb file
[04:56] <AK47isMyADDRESS> on 500gb hd
[04:56]  * Ranieri__ yawns
[04:56] <holstein> AK47isMyADDRESS: did you try just deleting? is that not an option?
[04:57] <pakair> AK47isMyADDRESS, http://askubuntu.com/questions/288513/cant-move-files-to-the-trash
[04:57] <AK47isMyADDRESS> when i do delete it pops up says can't move 2 trash delete only for good
[04:57] <AK47isMyADDRESS> ok ty
[04:58] <kingbeowolf> i am planning on running two 1440p monitors wit a gt 630 will that work in ubuntu?
[04:59] <holstein> kingbeowolf: nothing about ubuntu will prevent that.. but, you may want to check on that specific hardware supporting linux
[04:59] <kingbeowolf> its nvidia
[04:59] <kingbeowolf> i thought nvidia worked well?
[04:59] <Seven_Six_Two> kingbeowolf, often it does, yes.
[05:00] <holstein> sure. but, where i am with hardware these days is.. if it doesnt specifically promise linux support, then i know to expect to be my own tech suport for the device
[05:00] <pakair> kingbeowolf, search for 'gt630 ubuntu'
[05:02] <kingbeowolf> pakair it is a hard question to search for i think
[05:02] <kingbeowolf> i am planning on running two 1440p monitors wit a gt 630 will that work in ubuntu? pakair
[05:04] <holstein> kingbeowolf: sure, its challenging.. since, its really up to nvidia to promise the support and answer the question.. you'll have to just try the driver and see, or find someone with that specific hardware by searching online. but, i "believe it when i see it" running on my hardware
[05:04] <pakair> kingbeowolf, I did that search, looked at the links, subset for your ubuntu version. Did not see any flags
[05:04] <kingbeowolf> holstein have you ever ran two video cards at once?
[05:04] <guscl> Hi everyone, I'm new on irc and I'm looking for some good channels to learn programming. Do you guys know any of them? Thanks.
[05:05] <holstein> kingbeowolf: ubuntu *certainly* provides support for the dual head setup... and doenst block nvidia from providing driver support in anyway
[05:05] <kingbeowolf> holstein i have in crossfire and sli but not just 2 seperate cards
[05:05] <holstein> kingbeowolf: i have. and sometimes it worked.. sometimes, not
[05:05] <kingbeowolf> ok
[05:06] <holstein> kingbeowolf: always depeding on how well the manufacturer's driver works.. or, if the support comes from them for open support, such as well supported intel hardware
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> guscl: ##programming
[05:06] <kingbeowolf> holstein right right
[05:06] <guscl> Thanks lotus, =]
[05:07] <introom> I am on ubuntu 12.04, the busybox in the repo doesn't have ftpd compiled.
[05:08] <introom> is there any version more fully fledged?
[05:08] <kostkon> kingbeowolf, also having monitors with good/not buggy EDIDs helps
[05:08] <yellowfish> when I do ps aux, what do S+ and R+ stand for?
[05:10] <pakair> yellowfish, R process running, S process sleeping
[05:11] <yellowfish> My python processes are running though but it says S+
[05:11] <yellowfish> at least the file that it's changing keeps getting updated
[05:11] <yellowfish> I'm running Screen btw
[05:14] <pakair> yellowfish, it could be about to sleep, there is a table that holds all processes sleeping or about to sleep, same for running. Try man ps
[05:16] <Belorix> Hey guys, i am currently trying to install ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my desktop. I am running into an issue where ubuntu isnt detecting my windows partitions.  I am not using UEFI even tho my motherboard does support it: http://prntscr.com/3i59q3   http://prntscr.com/3i59ud
[05:22] <Jordan_U> Belorix: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" from an Ubuntu LiveCD/DVD.
[05:25] <abhra> what does "no longer affect" mean? in this launchpad bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1308998 ), it was mentioned that the individual status bar was always not visible while using synaptic. in the comments section, it was mentioned that it no longer affects synaptic; but synaptic is still affected with this. so, what does "no longer affect" mean?
[05:28] <rundll32> what are the available desktop enviarment in ubunto ?
[05:31] <dw1> rundll32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[05:31] <tripelb> hi how do i install chrome for 12.04? it is not in the software center, after downloading it from the chrome website i dont see GO, i see ubuntu softwaree
[05:31] <tripelb> no, not yet.
[05:32] <tripelb> ignore above
[05:32] <dw1> tripelb: download it..... run the .deb
[05:32] <dw1> tripelb: :)
[05:32] <kostkon> tripelb, click on Install
[05:32] <belorix> Jordan_U: -1 or -I
[05:32] <dw1> belorix: small -L
[05:33] <belorix> Jordan_U: Giving me an warning regarding GPT tables
[05:34] <tripelb> i did, gave my password, then it cant find chrome -says terminal. later i get ubuntu has experienced an internal error but then nothing changed.
[05:34] <Jordan_U> belorix: That problem is what's preventing Ubunu's installer from working with that partition table.
[05:35] <kostkon> tripelb, so you installed it, it says it's already isntalled but you can't find it
[05:35] <tripelb> I think I am going to get 14.04 since the other version of 12.04 I had kept getting internal errors. After gnome was disbanded I dont like ubuntu. it's become endless problems.
[05:35] <Jordan_U> belorix: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[05:36] <dw1> tripelb: ive always used gnome-session-fallback ... 12.04 and 14.04
[05:36] <yellowfish> dat moment when github.com is down
[05:36] <dw1> tripelb: no unity for me
[05:36] <tripelb> this is a samsung amd laptop, should I get 64 bit? or 32? (assuming they both exist.
[05:37] <dw1> tripelb: if uname -a says 64 then get 64
[05:37] <kostkon> tripelb, wild guess, 64bit
[05:37] <tripelb> I cant tell a thing about which linux I want from the ubuntu software center. what's it good for?
[05:38] <dw1> tripelb: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-find-if-processor-is-64-bit-or-not/
[05:38] <dw1> tripelb: software center is for addon packages, not the base OS
[05:39] <dw1> tripelb: 32 and 64 have mostly the same stuff available
[05:40] <tripelb> this is hexchat and I cant join any other channels? this has never happened before. I wanted to see if there is a #mint and it didnt even make one for me.
[05:40] <kostkon> tripelb, mint channel is on another server
[05:40] <kostkon> !mint
[05:47] <tripelb> wait, I did join. it just took forever.
[05:49] <molossus> does anyone know a better alternative for aptana studio 3? i am looking for an lightweight ide with ftp support to edit files
[05:49] <tripelb> dw1 thanks for the comments. I understand more now. I will go to either 14.04 or another type of linux that acts more like gnome. Unity fazes me.
[05:49] <EpicCyndaquil> molossus: see if any of these might work for you: http://alternativeto.net/software/aptana/?platform=linux
[05:50] <dw1> tripelb: there are a lot of choices http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[05:50] <belorix> Jordan_U: Im trying to backup my partitions table to a USB drive. However i keep getting permission denied, sfdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb for reading
[05:50] <dw1> tripelb: all can run on ubuntu
[05:50] <chutwig> anyone have any idea why the installer for 14.04 LTS would be really balky when installing onto a poweredge R820? it took forever to convince it that it could use one of the network connections, and now it keeps falling over at the step where it tries to configure apt
[05:51] <tripelb> OK I will stick to ubuntu, there's no community over at #mint.
[05:51] <dw1> tripelb: and many work on 12.04 or 14.04 ..
[05:51] <chutwig> pops up the progress bar, chugs for a second, then returns me to the main menu
[05:51] <dw1> tripelb: yeah thats one of the best parts of ubuntu
[05:51] <chutwig> i just want it to install grub and reboot >:(
[05:51] <cisconinja> i am using Ubuntu 13.10 at home, and sometimes at work i use cygwin to export firefox from my home to work laptop. is there anyway when i come home and say i am using a different laptop i could export the same firefox session ?
[05:52] <dw1> tripelb: so just install gnome-session-fallback and choose gnome at login for classic gnome :)
[05:52] <kostkon> cisconinja, Firefox Sync?
[05:53] <Jordan_U> belorix: sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sdX > parts.txt
[05:53] <tripelb> and so I just found an official flavor of ubuntu http://ubuntugnome.org/ yippee
[05:53] <cisconinja> kostkon, no. let us say i use gimp
[05:53] <tripelb> !gnome
[05:54] <dw1> tripelb: no need.. just install the packages on regular ubuntu :/
[05:54] <chutwig> any way to force debian-installer to bypass this step it's falling over on?
[05:54] <kostkon> cisconinja, misunderstood the q
[05:54] <tripelb> righton. hi dw1 OK. Is there an advantage to doing it that way?
[05:54] <cisconinja> kostkon, i am asking if there is a way that i can use the same session
[05:55] <dw1> tripelb: no disadvantage that i know :)
[05:55] <qin_> cisconinja: chrome have build sync, as for others you can use online storage for syn
[05:55] <jason__> Anyone here that can answer a question?
[05:55] <dw1> tripelb: i dont use gnome-shell just gnome-session-fallback .. i hear its gnome 2-ish
[05:55] <cisconinja> gin_ what if i was using gimp or open office
[05:56] <qin_> cisconinja: with some risks, you can copy revelant parts of ~/;
[05:57] <jason__> I have a laptop that has on board intel graphics that aren't supported yet I guess...was wondering how often intel drivers get added in
[05:57] <dw1> tripelb: you can see it at that link
[05:57] <qin_> cisconinja: I meant copy between boxes
[05:57] <belorix> Jordan_U: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util sfdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[05:57] <dw1> tripelb: http://askubuntu.com/a/65087
[05:58] <jason__> Is there even a set time or does it vary?
[05:58] <jason__> Or maybe I'm asking at the wrong place...
[05:59] <kostkon> !patience | jason__,
[05:59] <jason__> I didn't repeat it?
[06:00] <tripelb> dw1 ah. previously was using the gnome-classic but as soon as I started with 12.04 was troubled but also kept doing things better (except for not supporting my dell all in one printer) so I will be very happy to ditch 12. (PS I used ubuntu 6 to 10 and "everything worked. I was lucky maybe.)
[06:00] <jason__> I've spent the last 24 straight hours troubleshooting an issue so I assure you I have done my share of googling etc
[06:00] <tripelb> I must sleep now. My legs hurt. tada.
[06:01] <dw1> jason__: should just be autodetected and work, no?
[06:01] <jason__> Nope
[06:01] <qin_> jason__: What chipset is it?
[06:01] <dw1> jason__: what happens? anything in the logs?
[06:01] <jason__> X server error and a backlight issue that can't be fixed
[06:01] <kostkon> jason__, could you paste the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[06:02] <kostkon> jason__, and what's the problem you are having exactly
[06:02] <dw1> tripelb: well to upgrade you will have to use do-release-upgrade -d or software-updater -d until 14.04.1 is out or it wont be offered
[06:02] <jason__> No I'm actually on my phone and the pc has been packaged and ready to go back to the store in the morning. I was just curious.
[06:02] <kostkon> jason__, what was the problem
[06:03] <dw1> jason__: then you are beyond help :p
[06:04] <jason__> X server failed to start error, bypassed with nomodeset in grub got me to a terminal where I had to configure xorg in order to even full boot. Other wise backlight died after grub everytime. The laptop just came out.
[06:04] <jason__> After booted I would stay in software rendering mode
[06:04] <xning> Hello. I encountered package updating problems: libavcodec-extra-54 conflicts with libavcodec54
[06:04] <xning> I use 14.04
[06:05] <jrib> xning: apt-cache policy libavcodec54 libavcodec-extra-54
[06:06] <jason__> dw1: lol yup. Just wanted to ask if there were set time frames when ubuntu adds driver support for new hardware
[06:06] <belorix> Jordan_U: Think i got it to work correctly, lets see. And thank you for the help/.
[06:06] <xning> jrib, the results is:
[06:06] <xning> libavcodec54:
[06:06] <xning>   Installed: (none)
[06:06] <xning>   Candidate: 6:9.13-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
[06:06] <xning>   Version table:
[06:06] <xning>      6:9.13-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 0
[06:06] <unopaste> xning you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:07] <dw1> jason__: doubt it
[06:07] <dw1> jason__: youd have to file a bug report or something
[06:07] <jason__> dw1: ah ok. No worries. Getting replaced at 11am
[06:07] <xning> jrib, I got the results as follows
[06:08] <xning> libavcodec54:
[06:08] <xning>   Installed: (none)
[06:08] <xning>   Candidate: 6:9.13-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
[06:08] <jrib> xning: use a pastebin
[06:08] <jason__> You guys have a good night
[06:08] <xning> libavcodec-extra-54:
[06:08] <xning>   Installed: 6:9.11-2ubuntu2
[06:08] <xning>   Candidate: 6:9.13-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
[06:08] <iscorpion> how can i create infrastructure wireless network as to share my wired connection?
[06:08] <unopaste> xning you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:08] <cfhowlett> xning use the paste.  paste is your friend
[06:10] <xning> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7445677/
[06:10] <xning> Thanks everybody
[06:10] <iscorpion> connectify  alternative for ubuntu?
[06:11] <jrib> xning: did you read the description for each?
[06:11] <jrib> xning: do "apt-cache show PACKAGE" for each package
[06:12] <kostkon> jason__, there is a timeframe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[06:14] <xning> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7445685/
[06:14] <jrib> xning: did you read it?
[06:15] <xning> Yes
[06:15] <Anaugal> Hello; I'm trying to repair an install of ubuntu 14.04 using boot-repair, and when it got me to reinstall grub I'm getting some errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7445687/
[06:15] <jrib> xning: particularly, "This package is a replacement for the regular libavcodec54 library package"
[06:15] <jrib> xning: so install whichever you want
[06:18] <xning> jrib, I have installed libavcodec-extra-54, and didn't install libavcodec54. But the problem is, now libavcodec-extra-54 need update, and libavcodec54 is its dependency.
[06:18] <xning> I cannot update libavcodec-extra-54
[06:19] <jrib> xning: where do you see that it is its dependency?
[06:20] <hmsimha> has anyone upgraded to 14.04 recently and noticed wifi problems with a realtek network card?
[06:20] <xning> Sorry. I should make it clear that now libavcodec-extra-54 need update, and when I try this, libavcodec54 be part of packages that will be installed
[06:21] <jrib> xning: pastebin
[06:21] <hmsimha> pages seem to be loading slowly for me on my ubuntu laptop, but not on my nook or android
[06:26] <xning> jrib, I don't know why. I checked the packages that need update, if they need libavcodec54, they express as "libavocodec54 | libavcodec-extra-54 ". So it should no problem if I have installed libavcodec-extra-54, right? So it aptitude' problem, I think.
[06:26] <jrib> xning: pastebin what you are doing and the full output
[06:27] <xning> Thanks, jrib. I think it's OK for me. I have resolved the problem. Thanks very much
[06:27] <jrib> xning: ok
[06:29] <meccooll> How can i get X's version
[06:33] <dkhrapov> Hi, anybody can help me with this problem?
[06:33] <dkhrapov> http://askubuntu.com/questions/449619/sound-2-1-not-working-on-14-04
[06:36] <shawnbon206> is talking allowed in here?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> shawnbon206 offtopic chat goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:40] <Radon_3> hi everybody
[06:40] <Radon_3> I have a question regarding, telnet, package.
[06:40] <Radon_3> now, does ubuntu 12.04 come with it installed?
[06:41] <qin_> !info telnet
[06:41] <Saeedullah> hello all friend
[06:41] <qin_> yes
[06:41] <Saeedullah> how to work in ubuntu?
[06:42] <Radon_3> but why?
[06:42] <Radon_3> qin_: why? it is a security risk package
[06:42] <Saeedullah> first step,second setep last step?
[06:42] <qin_> Radon_3: Client or server you mean?
[06:43] <Radon_3> qin_: client
[06:43] <qin_> Radon_3: Where did you got "sequrity risk" stuff from?
[06:43] <Saeedullah> did the ubuntu use kernel files?
[06:43] <qin_> *security.
[06:44] <Radon_3> qin_: wait, I will find it ... a second please
[06:44] <Saeedullah> ok
[06:44] <Radon_3> qin_: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Packages_Avoid.html
[06:45] <Radon_3> Saeedullah: you from afghanistan?
[06:45] <Saeedullah> do u have information about  kernel files
[06:45] <Saeedullah> ?
[06:45] <bekks> Saeedullah: What do you want to know in detail?
[06:46] <Radon_3> Saeedullah: no, what is it that you are looking for?
[06:46] <Radon_3> Saeedullah: Can you speak Farsi? Cause I can help you to some extend if you can man, I speak Farsi...
[06:47] <Radon_3> qin_: so shoul I take that info seriously?
[06:47] <kostkon> !farsi | Radon_3
[06:47] <qin_> Radon_3: With this logic, do not use Linux since Evil Admin may have installed key logger. But that list make sense
[06:48] <Radon_3> qin_: Evil Admin???
[06:48] <Radon_3> I installed Ubuntu my se3lf man
[06:48] <Radon_3> qin_: Can you explain a bit more please??
[06:48] <qin_> Radon_3: In description of telnet it complains about plain text connection .
[06:49] <bekks> qin_: Which is true so far. Telnet doesnt use any encryption at all.
[06:50] <mr_lou> A command-line (wav or mp3 or flac) to ogg converter?
[06:50] <qin_> Radon_3: "elnet: Users will try to telnet to remote hosts and log in using clear text passwords. Run dsniff on the local machine as root to see that you can easily capture their passwords!" - that what would do someone with root/sudo access in your system (or someone sniffing your network)
[06:51] <Radon_3> qin_: log in too man, telnet can be yoused to login illegaly to a machine,
[06:51] <Radon_3> so telnet was installed in ubuntu 12.04 by ubuntu developers you meaan?
[06:51] <qin_> Radon_3: That would require comparibily server, like telnetd
[06:52] <bekks> Radon_3: No, it wasnt.
[06:52] <Radon_3> so with regard to all you have said so far, and that telnet was in ubuntu from Canonical, should I go back and install it again qin_ ??
[06:52] <bekks> qin_: Which doesnt change the fact that it is highly insecure and should be extincted.
[06:53] <qin_> Radon_3: Will you use it?
[06:53] <Radon_3> no,
[06:53] <Radon_3> not at all
[06:53] <bekks> Radon_3: Just uninstall it, if telnet is installed.
[06:53] <Radon_3> I hate telnet
[06:53] <Blue1> i use telnet to make sure a port is open
[06:53] <Radon_3> Is there some sort of log I could check if telnet has been used so far or not?
[06:53] <Blue1> sanity check
[06:54] <Blue1> dpkg -l | grep telnet
[06:54] <qin_> bekks: Dunno, I like to telnet somewhere from time to time, we are discussing how dangareous is telnet client
[06:54] <bekks> qin_: The client isnt dangerous at all. It is the server which imposes security issues.
[06:54] <Blue1> correct
[06:54] <qin_> bekks: Thank you!
[06:55] <Radon_3> Thank you everyone, you have all been huge help to me people...
[06:55] <qin_> bekks: It was pointed that client do not possess any password protection, so sudoes can easliy gather users credentials
[06:55] <Radon_3> thank you all so much
[06:56] <bekks> qin_: The point is: the client doesnt use any password protection, because the server cant handle that.
[06:57] <bekks> qin_: the telnet client itself is a very handy tool to test connections. Though you should not use connections to a telnetd for security reasons.
[06:57] <qin_> heh, Radon_3? Don't Panick.
[06:58] <qin_> bekks: Radon_3 should be adresee, i have already said that.
[06:59] <qin_> bekks: Anyway, thats linky which put Radon_3 on his feet: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Packages_Avoid.html
[07:00] <bekks> qin_: Then he got things wrong, actually.
[07:00] <bekks> Radon_3: PRetty clear description there: "telnet: Users will try to telnet to remote hosts and log in using clear text passwords."
[07:00] <bekks> Radon_3: All other usecases of telnet are not covered.
[07:01] <qin_> bekks: Too late, he has purged half of his system ;)
[07:01] <bekks> qin_: He'll learn to stay calm and breathe next time.
[07:02] <Radon_3> bekks: seriously dudes??? I have damaged the system???
[07:02] <Radon_3> comeon now...
[07:02] <Radon_3> I only purged telnet
[07:02] <Radon_3> what damages could it do?
[07:02] <bekks> Radon_3: I dont know what you have done to your system yet.
[07:03] <bekks> Radon_3: So what did you do, in detail?
[07:03] <Radon_3> I told you, I "only" purged telent
[07:03] <Radon_3> after I read that article last night
[07:03] <bekks> Radon_3: Which wasnt necessary, but doesnt do any harm.
[07:03] <Radon_3> so why do you say I have purged half of my system?
[07:04] <qin_> Radon_3: I wasn't serious. You can always: sudo apt-get install -f; to see if all is ok.
[07:04] <Jae> hello, has anybody heard of a "red" command before?
[07:04] <bekks> Radon_3: I did not say that.
[07:04] <bekks> Jae: You can search "packages.ubuntu.com" for that command.
[07:04] <Jae> ah thanks
[07:04] <cfhowlett> Radon_3 no expert me, but I bet the #ubuntu-server channel with its sysadmins would have valuable insight
[07:04] <Jae> its just i can't get out of it
[07:05] <dw1> Jae: press q then enter
[07:05] <dw1> Jae: its a text editor
[07:05] <Jae> omg thanks
[07:05] <dw1> Jae: man red
[07:05] <Jae> i've been doing ctrl+ c
[07:05] <Blue1> i just use nano --
[07:05] <Jae> and :q :quit
[07:05] <Jae> lol
[07:06] <bekks> "Though shall not use text editors others than vi." ;)
[07:06] <Jae> no i misspelled, i didn't think it was a text editor
[07:06] <Jae> ^
[07:06] <Jae> im used to vim
[07:06] <Jae> sry im just new, thanks again dwl
[07:06] <dw1> lucky guess. :)
[07:06] <Blue1> bekks: heh -- vi was too esoteric for me.
[07:06] <bekks> Blue1: I didnt like the coffee emacs made.
[07:07] <Radon_3> I like Gnu emacs, but I end up using nano all the time
[07:07] <dw1> vi or gedit
[07:07] <Blue1> nano had a zero learning curve
[07:07] <ludkiller> Radon_3, :>
[07:07] <ludkiller> yea
[07:07] <dw1> and vi still bugs the heck out of me
[07:07] <ludkiller> nano
[07:07] <ludkiller> is nice
[07:08] <Blue1> it gets the job done -
[07:08] <dw1> does it have that auto-wordwrap thing that pico has tho
[07:08] <dw1> im afraid of that
[07:09] <dw1> wrecked my cron tasks too many times :)
[07:09] <ludkiller> I got arch linux up and running looks nice :D
[07:10] <Blue1> i couldn't figure out gnome3 or unity so I use xubuntu
[07:10] <dw1> cool
[07:10] <dw1> i use gnome classic :)
[07:11] <Blue1> can you get gnome classic in ubuntu?
[07:11] <bekks> Isnt gnome classic just dead?
[07:11] <dw1> its not called classic but i use the gnome-session-fallback / flashback
[07:11] <dw1> no gnome-shell :/
[07:11] <Blue1> ahh
[07:12] <Blue1> gnome 2 today.  gnome 2 tomorrow.  gnome 2 forever.
[07:12] <dw1> its a 2 lookaline running on 3, apparently
[07:12] <dw1> lookalike*
[07:12] <cjsarette> this is ubuntu :)
[07:12] <ludkiller> I am using enlightenment :D
[07:12] <ludkiller> looks pretty nice
[07:12] <Blue1> i would use unity or gnome 3 if they had some kind of guide for gnome 2 users - context switching is non-trivial
[07:13] <bekks> Blue1: alt+tab  -- for gnome users, that might be hard ;)
[07:13] <ludkiller> https://www.enlightenment.org/
[07:13] <ludkiller> you can give it a try
[07:13] <qin_> Blue1: there is no gnome 2 anymore, is it?
[07:13] <bekks> qin_: Yeah, gnome 2 upstream is dead.
[07:13] <Blue1> qin_: i guess that's now gnome-fallback
[07:13] <Blue1> yes it is dead, jim
[07:14] <bekks> So let it go.
[07:14] <cjsarette> my ubuntu installation started screwing up after the upgrade from 13 -> 14.  Usually it screws up during the upgrade.  I decided to switch os's until i feel comfortable returning
[07:14] <Blue1> cjsarette: upgrades have been problematic for me - it's why I backup /etc/ and /home/ and do a fresh install
[07:15] <qin_> Wise man.
[07:15] <cjsarette> i went back to linux mint
[07:15] <bekks> My apologies.
[07:15] <cjsarette> i prefer the simpler MATE, its like the older GNOME
[07:16] <Blue1> well xubuntu had a bit of a learning curve too - -but not too bad
[07:16] <cjsarette> and yeah, you see it didn't have any errors after the upgrade.  It complained about /boot/efi a few times after booting the upgrade.  I tired running boot-repair and it couldn't find the installation
[07:16] <Saeedullah> Hello Radon_3
[07:16] <Blue1> cjsarette: I have a recipe for fixing those types of things
[07:16] <dw1> all my upgrades worked ftw
[07:16] <Radon_3> Saeedullah: hello brother
[07:17] <Radon_3> Saeedullah: where have you been?
[07:17] <Saeedullah> sorry for late respons
[07:17] <cjsarette> lol
[07:17] <Saeedullah> i am in afghanistan
[07:17] <Saeedullah> working in bank
[07:17] <rundll32> what are the bootloaders available?
[07:17] <Radon_3> cjsarette: why lol?
[07:17] <cjsarette> i was following the ubuntu help page and it didn't work, so i returned to something i have more control of
[07:17] <Saeedullah> in now want to joint the university as a lecturer
[07:18] <dw1> cjsarette: youll be back for the family :p
[07:18] <rundll32> other than grub and lilo ?
[07:18] <cjsarette> i still use ubuntu touch at least
[07:18] <bekks> cjsarette: More control than...? Mint is totally based upon Ubuntu, and uses the exact same tools.
[07:18] <Saeedullah> Radon_3 i want to learn ubuntu step by step
[07:19] <Saeedullah>  is it  possible to learn ?
[07:19] <cjsarette> bekks yeah i have been using linux mint longer
[07:19] <cjsarette> i always had issues with the desktop, little things that could be added
[07:19] <cjsarette> but i reconfigure soo much i hated doing it all manually
[07:19] <cjsarette> like Force Quit icon for example
[07:19] <Blue1> i am pretty happy with debian/wheezy
[07:19] <ludkiller> Saeedullah, it is.
[07:19] <Radon_3> Saeedullah: well my personal suggestion would be to just jump in there brother, no waste of time, Get a book too, and read as you work with it, also ubuntu is not a hard thing to learn, easier than windows...
[07:20] <Saeedullah> yes
[07:20] <ludkiller> yea
[07:20] <dw1> i considered debian for a server but went with ubuntu <3
[07:20] <bekks> dw1: For the sake of support lenght ;)
[07:20] <Blue1> i use both - but yeah, my servers are all debian
[07:20] <Saeedullah> how to find book?
[07:20] <dw1> bekks: yes it is nice
[07:21] <cjsarette> i was running debian for a while but this is a new laptop.  I even had to use Ubuntu until Linux Mint would boot.  All i ended up doing was waiting, heh, and it started booting up
[07:21] <Blue1> linux in a nutshell is a good start - it's basically man in a book
[07:21] <Saeedullah> i have already installed in my pc
[07:21] <cjsarette> i also had a problem with the bug tracker.  I decided to send in a bug report; thinking it would be a good thing and it would help.  All it did was toast my ubuntu, hehe
[07:21] <Saeedullah> now i want to learn prictcally
[07:21] <bekks> cjsarette: The bug tracker toasted your Ubuntu?
[07:21] <ludkiller> Saeedullah, it is pretty easy.
[07:22] <Radon_3> Saeedullah: you know about Google and amazon right? Also there are bunch free good materials available on the web, like this one: http://debian-handbook.info/get/
[07:22] <cjsarette> its where I'm located
[07:22] <rundll32> dw1: i want to boot darwin with ubuntu and arch which loader is best ?
[07:22] <cjsarette> im in this place in wyoming where they sorta have me trapped
[07:22] <cjsarette> what i do isn't exactly what happens
[07:22] <cjsarette> its messed up
[07:22] <cfhowlett> Saeedullah you keep asking this question and keep ignoring the advice to read the free book that will teach you
[07:22] <cfhowlett> Saeedullah http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[07:22] <dw1> rundll32: any i guess. dont know
[07:22] <bekks> rundll32: Which hardware do you have?
[07:22] <cjsarette> yeah my computer got caught in the wave
[07:23] <rundll32> bekks: intel x86.
[07:23] <Saeedullah> cfhowlett okay
[07:23] <Saeedullah> brother
[07:23] <bekks> rundll32: Make and model? Apple by chance?
[07:24] <Saeedullah> what is cross platform means?
[07:24] <rundll32> bekks: compaq presario dektop pc,
[07:24] <Saeedullah> ubuntu working in cross platform
[07:24] <bekks> rundll32: So you are trying to boot OSX on non-Apple-hardware?
[07:24] <Radon_3> cfhowlett: thanks for the link brother
[07:24] <Saeedullah> it means ?
[07:24] <bekks> Saeedullah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-platform
[07:24] <cfhowlett> Radon_3 enjoy
[07:25] <Radon_3> Saeedullah: ubuntu is a platform (-ish) itself already man
[07:25] <rundll32> i want darwin to boot with other two.
[07:25] <bekks> Radon_3: thats not true ;)
[07:25] <Radon_3> bekks: really???
[07:25] <Radon_3> why not?
[07:25] <bekks> Radon_3: Ubuntu is "just" a linux flavor, not a platform.
[07:25] <ludkiller> chameleon with grub , rundll32
[07:25] <Radon_3> well linux is a platform, isn't it?
[07:25] <ludkiller> chameleon & grub
[07:26] <Saeedullah> ok
[07:26] <rundll32> bekks: thanks.
[07:26] <ludkiller> I can't recall but yes I did triple boot it
[07:26] <bekks> Radon_3: Linux is, Ubuntu isnt - technically. :)
[07:26] <Radon_3> bekks: which some how makes ubuntu a platform (-ish) kind of thing... ;)
[07:27] <bekks> Radon_3: Nope...
[07:28] <Radon_3> ok, my hands are in the air, I surrender, Ubuntu is not a platform, not even a platformish kind of thing, I am sorry, please don't crusify me... :)
[07:28] <rundll32> bekks: what is your openion ?
[07:28] <bekks> rundll32: On what?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !ot
[07:28] <ludkiller> rundll32, try chameleon and grub
[07:28] <bekks> rundll32: Do you want to run OSX on non-Apple hardware?
[07:28] <ludkiller> there are plenty of resources out there which can help you out
[07:29] <rundll32> bekks: nope.
[07:29] <rundll32> bekks: i want darwin to run with arch and ubuntu.
[07:30] <cfhowlett> rundll32 might want to ask ##linux
[07:30] <Radon_3> I gotta go, IRC freaks me the hell out.....
[07:31] <cjsarette> anyways to extend upon my wave comment since most of you think i am going crazy.  I have a big experiment for you guys.  It usually makes me end up finding hidden updates.  Think of it as reaching the far corners of the internet.  After a time or two things even out on your computer as it is leveling out in cyberspace.
[07:31] <cjsarette> Obtain, write, purchase, or use a gui to rapidly connect to as many VPN's around the world as you can
[07:31] <cjsarette> check for updates at the same time and viola you find the hidden updates.  It sounds bogus i know
[07:31] <bekks> rundll32: could you provide the download link for darwin, since it isnt OSX and is opensource according to wikipedia?
[07:32] <cjsarette> i usually end up having to ride the VPN waves just covering up my tracks and i stumbled upon this
[07:32] <ludkiller> ...
[07:33] <cjsarette> i would run the script, and then after updating i would find a hidden dump, usually over 500MB
[07:34] <cjsarette> anyways im an old trader so i know i sound ridiculous
[07:34] <bekks> cjsarette: I am wondering when you will come back to Ubuntu support issues again.
[07:34] <bekks> !ot | cjsarette
[07:34] <cjsarette> im done writing
[07:40] <federico> ciao
[07:40] <federico> ciao a tutti
[07:40] <federico> x man
[07:47] <Muscularfemale> does ubuntu work on windows xp?
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Muscularfemale no.
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Muscularfemale wait - maybe
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Muscularfemale if you install virtualbox in windows, then you can install ubuntu to virtualbox
[07:49] <Blue1> cfhowlett: wasn't there a ubuntu that ran under windows?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Blue1 wubi = no longer supported and inadvised in any case
[07:49] <Muscularfemale> but cant i put that iso under a pen drive and run from there?
[07:49] <Blue1> cfhowlett: ahh that's what I was thinking of -- I didn't know it was no longer supported
[07:49] <Muscularfemale> or if required then boot from it?
[07:50] <aaparella> cfhowlett: How long has that been the case?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Muscularfemale yes but that means it's NOT running through XP, right?
[07:50] <Blue1> Muscularfemale: http://pkill-9.com/ubuntu-go-installing-linux-usb-flash-drive/
[07:50] <cfhowlett> aaparella since win8.1
[07:50] <cory8092> Hello, i current have a Linksys WUSB54GC v1, on windows its runs perfectly, however under linux i barely get a signal.
[07:51] <cory8092> I can't even get a webpage to load.
[07:51] <aaparella> cfhowlett: Is it still supported for older versions of Window?
[07:51] <aaparella> Windows*
[07:51] <Blue1> cory8092: what type of lan card do you have?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> aaparella yes
[07:51] <cory8092> Blue1: This is a USB device. I do have a WMP110 plugged into the same machine, but dont use it.
[07:52] <aaparella> Thanks cfhowlett!
[07:52] <cfhowlett> aaparella still a huge PITA though, thus my suggestion of windows + virtualbox + ubuntu
[07:52] <Blue1> new one on me
[07:54] <Holtyz> !nfs
[07:54] <Blue1> cory8092: this looks fairly straightforward.  have you tried this?  http://rewiv.com/blog/2008/09/08/how-to-install-your-linksys-wmp110-wireless-gn-card-on-linux/
[07:55] <cory8092> Blue1: I'm not trying to use the WMP110. I am using the Linksys WUSB54GC v1 USB for wifi
[07:56] <canis> can anyone help me to mount .iso file into usb in ubuntu 12.04?
[07:56] <cfhowlett> canis for making a bootable USB?
[07:57] <Blue1> canis: http://pkill-9.com/mounting-an-iso9660-iso-file-in-linux-ubuntudebian/
[07:57] <Blue1> cory8092: my bad
[07:57] <canis> yes
[07:57] <canis> can i do this with startup disk creator?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> canis unetbootin or startup disk creator are the tools for that
[07:58] <Gerowen> canis: 1) Format the USB as FAT32 using the "Disks" utility. 2) Install unetbootin and use that to create a bootable USB from an ISO.  The startup disk creator has given me issues before and unetbootin always works.
[07:58] <Gerowen> canis: You can install unetbootin with "sudo apt-get install unetbootin" and afterward it will appear in the menu.
[07:59] <Blue1> cory8092: let me clarify you are NOT using the wmp110 but a WUSB54GC right?
[07:59] <cory8092> Blue1: Yes
[07:59] <Blue1> ok
[08:00] <cory8092> Blue1: It's like dropping the connection. While on windows i have no problem getting a signal. Once im on ubuntu the signal strength drops out and wont even allow me to connect.
[08:00] <canis> how can i take backup of installed software in ubuntu12.04?
[08:01] <Blue1> cory8092: you could try:  http://jefim.wordpress.com/2007/07/24/how-to-linksys-wusb54gc-wireless-and-ubuntu-linux-704-feisty/
[08:01] <cfhowlett> !backup|canis
[08:01] <canis> only installed software like skype etc
[08:02] <canis> no i don't mean to take backup of entire system  i just wanna backup my installed software
[08:02] <Blue1> canis: you can try this:  http://pkill-9.com/simple-rsync-backuprestore-bash-scripts-for-ubuntudebian/
[08:03] <xuzax> weird, hi everyone, does anyone know anything about theme designing or inapp overclocking?
[08:04] <letstrythis> how can  i make sure ubuntu properly setup my intel gma 4500's 2 gb of shared system memory and 128mb deedicaed?
[08:05] <xuzax> lets, that should happen automatically
[08:05] <xuzax> butt id search graphics monitor
[08:06] <letstrythis> hmm let me look for this gpu monitor?
[08:06] <xuzax> or graphics info application
[08:06] <xuzax> theres gotta be one
[08:07] <rundll32> bekks: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwin-701.iso.gz
[08:07] <xuzax> thanks @valerie :-)'
[08:07] <Blue1> xuzax: you can generally do:  lspci | grep VGA to find out the graphics card
[08:08] <xuzax> bro for some reason thinks linux didnt set his card up right
[08:09] <rundll32> bekks: here you go ....
[08:09] <xuzax> but idk, my intel card is set perfectly,
[08:09] <xuzax> these irc chats are kinda crazy btw
[08:09] <Blue1> xuzax: you can check /etc/X11/xorg.conf  -- if there isn't one then it's probably using default drivers (which isnt always a bad thing)
[08:10] <rundll32> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwin-701.iso.gz
[08:10] <xuzax> lets needs to read that @blue1
[08:10] <xuzax> is there anyway to tag someones name to where they get notified?
[08:11] <bazhang> !tab | xuzax
[08:11] <Blue1> beat me to it
[08:12] <Blue1> well folks it's happy trails time for me -- nytol
[08:12] <xuzax> hmm im confuzed
[08:12] <xuzax> i dont thin its working for me
[08:12] <xuzax> you type name then hit tab?
[08:13] <bubu1uk> or part of name
[08:13] <aaparella> You type the persons name, not the word name
[08:13] <xuzax> i know
[08:13] <xuzax> but when i hit tab my cursor disapears lol
[08:13] <aaparella> oh, sorry ._.
[08:13] <xuzax> like you would think it was supposed to
[08:15] <xuzax> i know why
[08:15] <bubu1uk> xuzax, you use webchat?
[08:15] <xuzax> im in a browser window
[08:15] <xuzax> haha yep
[08:15] <xuzax> what do you use for irc?
[08:15] <bubu1uk> xuzax, xchat, irssi
[08:16] <xuzax> konversation any good?
[08:16] <aaparella> irss++, using it right now, love it
[08:16] <aaparella> irssi*
[08:17] <xuzax1> sweet
[08:17] <xuzax1> bubu1uk,
[08:17] <xuzax1> i see now
[08:18] <xuzax1> so web chat actually isnt that much different
[08:19] <xuzax1> anyone know any cool linux tweaks, like conky or something
[08:20] <vignesh> Hello
[08:20] <xuzax1> hello vignesh
[08:20] <vignesh> How to install umax tv tuner card
[08:20] <xuzax1> thats a good question
[08:20] <vignesh> ubuntu 14.04
[08:20] <alhosni> #zyzoom
[08:21] <xuzax1> i will have to do some research
[08:21] <cfhowlett> xuzax1 http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/
[08:21] <vignesh> thank you xuzax1
[08:21] <xuzax1> um cf?
[08:22] <xuzax1> it wont let me click
[08:22] <cfhowlett> xuzax1 copy/past the link to your browser
[08:23] <xuzax1> i got it nice site thanks
[08:27] <vignesh> anyone know how to install umax tv tuner card
[08:28] <rundll32> bekks:.
[08:30] <xuzax1> @vignesh
[08:30] <xuzax1> http://blog.prashanthellina.com/2008/03/23/watching-television-on-linux-setting-up-a-tv-tuner-card/
[08:30] <xuzax1> idk if that will help
[08:31] <xuzax1> goodnight everyone it was nice
[08:32] <shane_> woah
[08:32] <vignesh> Thanks and good night xuzax1
[08:33] <shane_> how is everyone, anyone have any ubuntu questions
[08:33] <Radon_3> hi folks, I have set up an internal mail service thingy so that I would recieve internal important emails, now I have recieved an email from 'Anacron' that says: http://tny.cz/d770a6c5 and when I run sudo apt-get install libgmp3c2 I get http://tny.cz/c0437f72, what should I do?
[08:33] <shane_> there was a person that used the user name of xuzax here :-0
[08:34] <shane_> thas kinda crazy aswell
[08:34] <Radon_3> any ideas
[08:35] <Radon_3> ?
[08:35] <shane_> tell him to try update and retry what he wants radon
[08:35] <Radon_3> Should I run apt-get autoremove??
[08:35] <Radon_3> they seem like important packages
[08:36] <etfb> I'm seeing something odd.  I used to be able to ssh into one of my home computers from inside the home, now I can't - but I can still ssh in using the external IP and the port-forwarded port number.  Is it possible that a recent upgrade disabled my ssh access internally but not externally?  How would that even work?
[08:36] <shane_> the onlyxuzax i ever heard of was an extreme hacker :/
[08:37] <shane_> thats extremely odd etfb
[08:38] <etfb> Connection is refused even using the other port.  Very weird.
[08:38] <shane_> i dont understand why or how that would be possible, if anything it should be the opposit, to desable externally and not internally
[08:39] <shane_> man
[08:40] <Radon_3> what is this libgmp3c2 package anyways?
[08:40] <Radon_3> what does it do?
[08:41] <shane_> GNU MP is a programmer's library for arbitrary precision arithmetic
[08:42] <Radon_3> shane_: do I need it?
[08:42] <shane_> * cjsarette (~cjsarette@67-134-54-115.dia.static.qwest.net) has joined #ubuntu
[08:42] <shane_> (ie, a bignum package). It can operate on signed integer, rational, and floating point numeric types.
[08:42] <shane_> It has a rich set of functions, and the functions have a regular interface
[08:43] <shane_> prob not
[08:43] <shane_> /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3
[08:43] <shane_> /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3.5.2
[08:43] <shane_> /usr/lib/libmp.so.3
[08:43] <shane_> /usr/lib/libmp.so.3.1.16
[08:43] <shane_> /usr/share/doc/libgmp3c2/README.Debian
[08:43] <shane_> /usr/share/doc/libgmp3c2/TODO.Debian
[08:43] <unopaste> shane_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:44] <Radon_3> shane_: this all happened after I installed some other packages about libc6... should I revert them?
[08:44] <shane_> thats the packages inside
[08:45] <shane_> i would if i were you
[08:45] <shane_> if its causing you issues
[08:46] <shane_> going offline, bye
[08:48] <knight``> Radon_3: what's wrong then?
[08:48] <Radon_3> knight``: that email
[08:48] <bekks> Radon_3: Which email?
[08:48] <Radon_3> http://tny.cz/d770a6c5 and http://tny.cz/c0437f72
[08:48] <Radon_3> don't know what to do
[08:49] <Radon_3> http://tny.cz/d770a6c5 and http://tny.cz/c0437f72
[08:49] <bekks> Radon_3: Well. WHY do you install something when you are saying "I dont know what to do"? :)
[08:50] <bekks> Radon_3: Do you have a 64bit or 32bit Ubuntu?
[08:52] <Radon_3> bekks: I have a 64bit system
[08:53] <bekks> Radon_3: Then you can safely uninstall all those unneede 32bit dependencies.
[08:53] <Radon_3> bekks: and should I install libgmp3c2?
[08:54] <bekks> Radon_3: No. But you already did.
[08:54] <Radon_3> bekks: Can you not be cryptic please?
[08:54] <Radon_3> :(
[08:54] <bekks> Radon_3: Read your second paste, and see that libgmp3c2 has just been installed.
[08:55] <bekks> Radon_3: First line of that paste.
[08:56] <Radon_3> Yeah, but I said n to that installation, now i am going to repeat that and say Y this time
[08:56] <bekks> NO.
[08:56] <Radon_3> NO?? what?
[08:56] <Radon_3> I am scared right now
[08:56] <Radon_3> holding my breath
[08:56] <bekks> Radon_3: Then dont press random keys as answers to questions. And calm down.
[08:57] <Radon_3> ok, what should I do?
[08:57] <bekks> a) The package is already installed. b) You did that. c) apt-get tells you to remove unneeded dependencies d) those are still installed e) those can safely be removed.
[08:57] <Radon_3> so i am running apt-get autoremove??
[08:58] <Radon_3> is that right?
[08:58] <bekks> f) the command to install the package will NOT remove packages. g) your second paste tells you the command to remove the dependencies unneeded.
[09:00] <flux242> Hi, does somebody know what process is listening udp port 37734? It's visible with the netstat -uap
[09:01] <bekks> flux242: sudo lsof -i
[09:01] <flux242> nope
[09:01] <Radon_3> flux242: I guess netstat -tupan should tell you
[09:02] <flux242> nope
[09:02] <bekks> flux242: What does "nope" mean in terms of "sudo lsof -i"?
[09:02] <Radon_3> flux242: "netstat -tupan"
[09:02] <Radon_3> sorry, if I forgot "s
[09:03] <bekks> you have to use sudo for netstat as well.
[09:03] <_2_Alex> is there any one from Manchester
[09:04] <Radon_3> bekks: Also when I run "sudo apt-get update" it down't seem to be updating today, it just lists a couple of Htts and then nothing is recieved
[09:04] <Radon_3> is canonical closed on holidays?
[09:04] <flux242> look, I wouldn't ask if it would be so easy. Neither lsof nor netstat shows process name
[09:04] <bekks> Radon_3: "apt-get update" never shows any updates. Use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" afterwards-
[09:05] <flux242> udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:37734           0.0.0.0:*                           -
[09:05] <Radon_3> bekks: no man, I mean "update" used to use my Internet connection  a little bit to download stuff, but today it seems it is getting nothing.
[09:06] <bekks> flux242: Whats the output of "sudo lsof -i"?
[09:06] <Radon_3> flux242: oh, those devilish things, Imyself think they must be NSA'a
[09:06] <Radon_3> flux242: oh, those devilish things, Imyself think they must be NSA's
[09:06] <bekks> Radon_3: And whats the problem with that? Do you pay Canonical to provide updates on an early sunday morning? :)
[09:07] <Radon_3> bekks: nope, sorry, didn't mean to imply that ofcourse
[09:07] <Radon_3> but funny
[09:07] <Radon_3> :)
[09:07] <flux242> bekks: what do you think does it show?
[09:08] <Radon_3> flux242: I have them too, I think they are used to spy on people, like from NSA
[09:08] <flux242> Radon_3: i see your point. Now go away
[09:08] <canis> plz help me when i use Unetbootin in ubuntu when i try to browse iso file it didn't show
[09:08] <Radon_3> government things, don't bother i guess
[09:08] <canis> just show computer inside it there is no drive?
[09:08] <canis> pzl help me
[09:08] <bekks> flux242: It doesnt matter what I think it shows - it only matters what it shows to you.
[09:09] <Radon_3> flux242: what did i do to you?/?
[09:09] <bekks> Radon_3: Stop the nonsense now. Thank you.
[09:09] <Radon_3> ok
[09:10] <flux242> bekks: it should matter because it only shows opened or closed tcp connections.
[09:11] <bekks> flux242: It shows listening ports, too.
[09:11] <bekks> flux242: So will you pastebin it or not?
[09:11] <flux242> bekks: no
[09:11] <Radon_3> bekks: shall I pastebin mine? If it is not considered intrudence?
[09:11] <bekks> flux242: Good luck then in finding someone who will help you.
[09:12] <flux242> np
[09:12] <knight``> Radon_3: i think there's no updated index in the server, so nothing has to be downloaded of course. you don't need to  update every 5 minutes
[09:12] <bekks> Radon_3: Did I talk to you? No. Your output of lsof is useless to the problem of flux242.
[09:12] <Radon_3> I am so unhappy, I am gonna cry for a while, sorry if I am bothering you all, bye
[09:13] <flux242> ah, with sudo it shows more
[09:13] <ronaldsmazitis> Radon_3: I am unhappy also, as I have no place to live
[09:13] <cfhowlett> ronaldsmazitis stop now.
[09:13] <ronaldsmazitis> + NO security, money, property job
[09:13] <cfhowlett> !ot|ronaldsmazitis
[09:13] <ronaldsmazitis> cfhowlett: why?
[09:13] <ronaldsmazitis> ohhh
[09:13] <bekks> flux242: Thats why I told you to use "sudo lsof -i". And according to the man page of lsof, it shows TCP and UDP.
[09:13] <ronaldsmazitis> topics, using ubuntu doesn't help it
[09:13] <red45923> ubuntu permissions: i want to edit a config file but i need to be root to do it but i'd like to leave the file ownership on the file the same as it was before i edited it, is there a way to do that?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> !guidelines|ronaldsmazitis
[09:15] <ronaldsmazitis> I'm very sad ubuntu user
[09:15] <llutz> red45923: sudo nano /path/file
[09:15] <ronaldsmazitis> guidelines
[09:15] <cfhowlett> ronaldsmazitis stay on topic = ubuntu support question.  NOT personal issues
[09:17] <lesterc> Guys - I feel embarrassing need help for this - I used to use nfsv3 a lot but for some reason I could not get it working again with my home machines. Can someone give me a hand?
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !info nfsv3
[09:17] <lesterc> I'm trying setup nfsv4 following the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto#NFSv4_without_Kerberos
[09:18] <bekks> lesterc: "could not get" is pretty generic. What are you doing, what doesnt work, throwing which errors?
[09:20] <lesterc> yeah bekks I'll be specific - got kids at the back.. :) `showmount -e' and mount from the client machine simply timedout.
[09:22] <bekks> lesterc: So the NFS server isnt running. Or it is blocked by a firewall.
[09:22] <lesterc> bekks: both client and server machines are pretty vanilla ubuntu trusty setup with no firewall
[09:22] <bekks> lesterc: By default, there is a firewall ;)
[09:22] <lesterc> oh right ufw yeah?
[09:22]  * lesterc checks
[09:22] <bekks> yes
[09:22] <cfhowlett> lesterc there is a firewall but it's not enabled
[09:24] <canis> when i use unetbootin it stuck at 5% what to do?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> canis for how long?
[09:24] <canis> for about 15 min
[09:24] <lesterc> ufw is off. `iptables-save returns nothing on both machines.
[09:24] <bekks> lesterc: sudo iptables -L -vnx
[09:25] <cfhowlett> canis any popups?  you have to authorize a couple of times for th unetbootin to complete its works
[09:25] <Radon_3> couldn't cry :)
[09:25] <bekks> Radon_3: Hopefully you stay ontopic now.
[09:25] <canis> no any popups
[09:25] <red45923> thx llutz
[09:25] <Radon_3> you got it chief
[09:25] <lesterc> bekks: poicy==accept for all chains with no rules.
[09:26] <bekks> lesterc: Then iptables isnt running. Well, your NFS server isnt running.
[09:27] <lesterc> `pgrep nfs` returns 11 pids so I think it's running.
[09:28] <lesterc> `showmount -e` on the server works as expected.
[09:28] <lesterc> what else should I check? :)
[09:28] <canis> unetbootin stuck what to do?
[09:29] <chaotix> hi...  what is the shell command to set the ip address back to an automatic ip from a fixed ip?
[09:29] <lesterc> canis: are you creating the usb drive or what?
[09:30] <chaotix> i needed to temporarily set it to fixed to set up my ddwrt as client mode, and now i need to switch back to auto ip
[09:30] <cfhowlett> canis did you very the ISO?
[09:30] <canis> i am going to create bootable usb drive?
[09:30] <lesterc> chaotix: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:30] <bekks> lesterc: we are talking about nfs3, are we?
[09:30] <lesterc> bekks: I'm setting up nfsv4 but I don't mind if I can get v3 working again.... (I couldn't)
[09:30] <canis> i am going to create usb bootable ?
[09:30] <chaotix> lesterc, i used the ifconfig command, i did not edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:31] <chaotix> i did ifconfig etho 192.168.1.7
[09:31] <chaotix> now i need to go back to automatic
[09:31] <bekks> chaotix: sudo dhclient eth0
[09:31] <canis> i am going to install 14.04LTS i have already downloaded .iso file now i need to make usb bootable
[09:31] <bekks> lesterc: So disable/undo all that NFSv4 stuff :)
[09:32] <cfhowlett> canis DID = YOU = VERIFY = THE = ISO?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> !md5sum > canis
[09:32] <chaotix> thanks, bekks
[09:32] <canis> how to verify
[09:32] <knight```> canis: why don't you use the 'usb-creator-gtk' which is part of standard installation instead?
[09:33] <chaotix> bekks, it is still 192.168.1.7 after "sudo dhclient etho"
[09:34] <llutz> chaotix: sudo service network-manager restart
[09:34] <bekks> chaotix: So thats the IP you got from your DHCP server.
[09:34] <dw1> chaotix: you could try ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[09:34] <dracnoc> canis: as well as checking the md5 on your iso, can you also run unetbootin from a terminal - 'sudo unetbootin' to see if any error messages pop up? that might give you some idea as to why it gets stuck
[09:34] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|canis
[09:35] <canis> yes i can run unetbootin from terminal
[09:36] <bekks> canis: Test the ISO first.
[09:36] <canis> how to test iso?
[09:36] <canis> having problem in testing iso
[09:36] <bekks> canis: you have been told three times now how to test the ISO.
[09:37] <cfhowlett> canis  it really helps if you read the links people send you - unless you're just here to play games/waste time
[09:37] <canis> ok i will go and read
[09:39] <canis> how to go to directory where my iso file is from terminal?
[09:39] <dracnoc> canis: which folder is it in?
[09:40] <canis> it is in my E drive
[09:40] <Radon_3> canis: press Ctrl + Alt + T, on your keyboard, what do you see?
[09:40] <dracnoc> canis: E drive? are you on windows?
[09:40] <bekks> Radon_3: He is using Windows.
[09:40] <dracnoc> ahhh....
[09:40] <Radon_3> WOW
[09:40] <canis> i saw canis@canis-G31D-m7
[09:41] <canis> no i am not on windows
[09:41] <Radon_3> canis: well ok, install hashtab on windows
[09:41] <dracnoc> canis: ignore everything i said, i assumed you were running in ubuntu, those commands won't work in windows :(
[09:41] <bekks> canis: On linux, there is no E driver.
[09:41] <bekks> *drive
[09:41] <cfhowlett> canis  no "e" drive in ubuntu
[09:42] <Radon_3> canis: what operating system are you using man?
[09:42] <canis> i mean i have seperate volume named Software backup
[09:42] <Cute_Shelly21> hey... I ran into some trouble :(
[09:42] <canis> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[09:42] <cfhowlett> canis post a screenshot
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !paste| canis
[09:42] <bekks> canis: Turn around, and run out of them ;)
[09:42] <Radon_3> well, then press Ctl + Alt + T what do you see??
[09:42] <canis> how to take screenshot
[09:43] <bekks> canis: Which Operating System are you using right now?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> canis keyboard "PrntScrn" key
[09:43] <canis> ubuntu 12.04
[09:43] <Cute_Shelly21> i was trying to copy stuff from my pen drive to a HDD
[09:43] <dracnoc> canis: there's a button on your keyboard that says 'PtrScr' or something very similar, usually in the top-right corner of your keyboard. Press it.
[09:44] <canis> ok
[09:44] <canis> i have done
[09:44] <canis> now what
[09:44] <cfhowlett> !paste | canis
[09:44] <dracnoc> you should have a shot of your screen, if nothing comes up, you should be able to find it in your Home folder. open your file manager and take a look.
[09:44] <Radon_3> canis: now if you are using ubuntu 12.04 a screen must appear asking you where to save the screeen shot man
[09:44] <Cute_Shelly21> someone please help me!!!
[09:44] <Cute_Shelly21> I am in a lot of trouble!! :(
[09:45] <canis> yes i have saved
[09:45] <Cute_Shelly21> i was trying to copy stuff from my pen drive to a HDD
[09:45] <vifino> Cute_Shelly21: What is?
[09:45] <bekks> Cute_Shelly21: and...?
[09:45] <Radon_3> Cute_Shelly21: ask a question first, what is the issue?
[09:45] <Cute_Shelly21> i mistakenly did "cp <file> /dev/sda5
[09:45] <vifino> ...
[09:45] <Cute_Shelly21> now I think my block file has become corrupted
[09:45] <Cute_Shelly21> and I cannot access that partition
[09:46] <Cute_Shelly21> is there a way of fixing it without having to partition it
[09:46] <Cute_Shelly21> ???
[09:46] <vifino> I think not.
[09:46] <Cute_Shelly21> it was of 250 GB and I had a lot of important documents in there
[09:46] <Radon_3> canis: now upload the screen shot to this website: http://postimage.org/
[09:46] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: :(
[09:46] <canis> ok
[09:47] <canis> http://imagebin.org/310191
[09:47] <Radon_3> That is if you can use nautilus
[09:47] <canis> did u see that?
[09:47] <dracnoc> canis: yes, i can see it here
[09:47] <cfhowlett> canis yes.  open a terminal.  drag and drop the ISO into the terminal for the md5sum command
[09:48] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: really the best you can do is recover what hasnt been written with a recovery tool... but the filenames wont be recovered :/
[09:48] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: i think.
[09:48] <Radon_3> canis: yes the whole world did actually, now you have to type this in your terminal window: cd ..
[09:48] <Cute_Shelly21> how??
[09:48] <Radon_3> again cd ..
[09:48] <Cute_Shelly21> am new at this...
[09:48] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: it will be a big mess, the filenames wont be there
[09:49] <canis> just drag and enter
[09:49] <Dazax> Bien le bonjour!
[09:49] <Cute_Shelly21> dw1: that's because the block file has gotten corrupted isn't it??
[09:49] <cfhowlett> !fr|Dazax
[09:49] <Radon_3> canis: or do exactly as cfhowlett is telling you it is much simpler
[09:49] <canis> it says permision denied
[09:49] <vifino> Cute_Shelly21: The files are there, atleast some of them, but the filenames wont.
[09:49] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: im not an expert but yeah sounds about right
[09:49] <dw1> what are the best recovery apps people
[09:49] <canis> yes i have drag now what to do
[09:49] <Radon_3> canis: can you please upload a picture of your terminal window as well?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> canis in the terminal:  "md5sum"   then drag and drop the iso
[09:50] <ed__> hi, is this the right place to get help with installing hardware on ubunt?
[09:50] <canis> yes i have done it
[09:50] <canis> now what to do
[09:51] <Ben64> ed__: depends what you mean exactly
[09:51] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html
[09:51] <cfhowlett> canis press enter
[09:51] <cfhowlett> ed__ ask
[09:51] <canis> yes i have press enter
[09:51] <canis> and i saw c4d4d037 like this
[09:51] <canis> so long
[09:52] <dracnoc> canis: that long set of letters/number should be the same as what is on the ubuntu website. if they're different, you download is bad.
[09:52] <vifino> ed__: Dont ask to ask, just do it!
[09:52] <Radon_3> canis: you seem fine, but check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[09:52] <h3r1> hello there... i have a strange issue with samba shared folders... some folders are always accessible while otheres are only accessible (visible) after accessing the server via ssh... could anybody help me?
[09:53] <Cute_Shelly21> what are the best recovery apps
[09:53] <ed__> ok guys, i have latest xubuntu on cf19 laptop with working sierra wireless 8780 3g /gps card but im not finding the nmea stream that should be on a virtual serial port. i think it should be a virtual tty device. works on xp
[09:53] <paolo__> ls -all
[09:53] <canis> yes
[09:53] <canis> it is verified
[09:53] <canis> now what to do
[09:53] <cfhowlett> !recovery | pao
[09:54] <canis> the downloaded iso file is completely download
[09:54] <canis> no any error
[09:54] <canis> now whose problem unbootin?
[09:54] <Voyage> is there a package in ubuntu that I can use for tortoisesvn?
[09:54] <dracnoc> canis: good. you download was ok. use 'sudo unetbootin' in that terminal and try to install on the memory stick again. see if any error messages come up in the terminal
[09:55] <canis> thanks a lot for helping me
[09:55] <canis> it works
[09:55] <canis> now i am going to reboot
[09:55] <Radon_3> canis: why don't you use start up disk creator built in ubuntu? it is awesome
[09:55] <cfhowlett> h3r1 might want to ask the #ubuntu-server channel
[09:56] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[09:56] <canis> some says that it doesn't seem work that's why i use unbootin
[09:56] <h3r1> cfhowlett thanks, i will
[09:56] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: then sudo testdisk
[09:56] <cfhowlett> canis wait, you didn't even TRY startup disk creator?
[09:56] <Radon_3> ok,
[09:57] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: seems to be one of the best apps
[09:57] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: details @ http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[09:59] <Radon_3> canis: startup disk creator never crashed or disturbed anything for me, but it is again your choise man, nothing to do about that go ahead with the reboot
[10:00] <h3r1> cfhowlett there seems to be no activity at the #ubuntu-server channel...
[10:00] <cfhowlett> h3r1 tsk.  that happens sometimes.
[10:01] <ranno> hello guys
[10:01] <ranno> i really need someones elp
[10:01] <ranno> help
[10:01] <dracnoc> ranno: just ask
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !ASKrann
[10:01] <cfhowlett> \
[10:01] <ranno> i believe my ubuntu server got hacked a few hours ago
[10:01] <Radon_3> ranno: ok we will, what is the problem?
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !server| ranno
[10:01] <Cute_Shelly21> dw1: thanks a lot
[10:02] <ed__> ok guys, i have latest xubuntu on cf19 laptop with working sierra wireless 8780 3g /gps card but im not finding the nmea stream that should be on a virtual serial port. i think it should be a virtual tty device. works on xp
[10:02] <llutz> ranno: if you think that, take it down, make a disk-dump, investigate then
[10:03] <ranno> i have a digitalocean droplet with ubuntu 12.04
[10:03] <ranno> 8 hours ago i received an email from DO support
[10:04] <ranno> We've had to unfortunately reboot your Droplet graafik due to an issue on the underlying physical node where the Droplet runs.
[10:04] <dw1> Cute_Shelly21: bad situation... good luck
[10:04] <ranno> ports were turned off
[10:04] <ranno> 80, 443, 22
[10:04] <ranno> no ssh access
[10:04] <ranno> so i managed to login via DO online console
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> ranno  type /j #ubuntu-server
[10:05] <llutz> !enter | ranno
[10:05] <Radon_3> ranno: contanct the cmpany then I guess.
[10:05] <llutz> grrr still gone, ranno explain your stuff on one line, don't use enter every to words
[10:05] <sabayonuser2> hi, is there any image viewer for gnome that allows viewing psd files (like kde's gwenview)?
[10:06] <Radon_3> sabayonuser2: have you tried okular?
[10:06] <sabayonuser2> Radon_3: isn't it a kde app?
[10:06] <dw1> sabayonuser2: you could always apt-get install gwenview :)
 or simply use gimp
[10:07] <sabayonuser2> dw1: yep, going to see what the download size would be
[10:07] <Radon_3> sabayonuser2: it works in unity.... (I am a totaly newbe)
[10:07] <dw1> sabayonuser2: 15M :P
[10:07] <dw1> sabayonuser2: uncompressed
[10:07] <sabayonuser2> schartz: i can also use libre office draw but it's not a viewer, neither is gimp
[10:08] <Radon_3> sabayonuser2: I think we also don't happen to find a psd viewer for windows easily too
[10:09] <sabayonuser2> Radon_3: ifranview. and there's a bunch of others. but im just looking for a gtk app for the job )
[10:09] <schartz> psd is not supposed to be any "image viewing" format either
[10:10] <Radon_3> schartz: thank you.
[10:10] <sabayonuser2> ok, never mind, thanks, going to google more or will just use a kde app for it
[10:10] <Radon_3> schartz: I was trying to say that but didn't know how
[10:11] <drewd> fbi on a terminal does not seem to open large pdf files is it a bug?
[10:12] <schartz> Radon_3:    (:
[10:13] <dracnoc> drewd: fbi uses imagemagick to convert the pdf into something viewable. imagemagick is not the quickest program in the world at conversion, so large files may take a long time to display.
[10:14] <dracnoc> drewd: unless you're getting an error message, i would just wait to see what happens :S
[10:14] <drewd> dracnoc: i guess a little patience will do the trick
[10:15] <dracnoc> drewd: what is the filesize on the pdf?
[10:15] <drewd> about 2Mb
[10:16] <dracnoc> drewd: oh, that shouldn't be a problem, not even on old hardware. do you see any error messages?
[10:16] <Radon_3> I got a question, where do apt-get, and dpkg store their logs? do they do it at all?
[10:16] <dracnoc> Radon_3: /var/log/dpkg.log ?
[10:17] <drewd> dracnoc: nope
[10:17] <Radon_3> dracnoc: thank you, and what about apt-get?
[10:17] <dracnoc> Radon_3: ignore my last. try in /var/log/apt/history.log
[10:18] <Radon_3> dracnoc: thanks a million
[10:18] <Guest21025> How can i install a software through terminal in ubuntu 12.04? I have downloaded the .targz file, what should i do to install this?
[10:18] <dracnoc> no probs. you might also find a few .gz archives in /var/log/apt as well if you have a long history
[10:19] <drewd> dracnoc: loading xyz.pdf ...
[10:19] <osse> Guest21025: there is no general answer. Extract it and see if there's a README or INSTALL file
[10:19] <Radon_3> no .gz fies, still young :)
[10:19] <Radon_3> a kid if you will
[10:20] <dracnoc> drewd: open another terminal and the the 'top' command. see if 'convert' is running, should be at the top of the list
[10:20] <dracnoc> and try the 'top' command*
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> or htop
[10:20] <dracnoc> Radon_3: :) - don't worry, they'll soon turn up
[10:20] <drewd> dracnoc: just worked :) i  was just impatient
[10:21] <Guest21025> osse, yes but I am trying it in terminal, 'the directory is not found' is displaying
[10:21] <osse> Guest21025: trying what? what produced that error?
[10:22] <ed__> ok guys, i have latest xubuntu on cf19 laptop with working sierra wireless 8780 3g /gps card but im not finding the nmea stream that should be on a virtual serial port. i think it should be a virtual tty device. works on xp
[10:22] <dracnoc> drewed: well... and he's gone
[10:22]  * dracnoc shrugs
[10:24] <Saeedullah> Hello All Friend
[10:25] <llutz> ed__: check "dmesg" for any related info on that device
[10:25] <Saeedullah> what is the main fucntion of the kernel?
[10:26] <llutz> ed__: most likely pseudo-USB devices like /dev/ttyUSB*
[10:27] <osse> Saeedullah: making sure that software can use the hardware
[10:27] <Saeedullah> osse yes
[10:28] <llutz> ed__: no PMs please
[10:28] <Saeedullah> how to use hardware the kernel?
[10:28] <Saeedullah> is a kernel a program?
[10:28] <ed__> soory im not used to irc
[10:29] <ed__> shall i pastie anything?
[10:29] <llutz> ed__: pastebin "dmesg" output please
[10:29] <llutz> ed__: and "ls -l /dev/ttyÜ*"
[10:30] <Saeedullah> who can help me?
[10:30] <osse> Saeedullah: try ##linux for general linux questions
[10:31] <osse> Saeedullah: yes the kernel is a program
[10:31] <osse> but written in a very special way
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> !kernel
[10:32] <Saeedullah> tnx brtoher
[10:32] <Saeedullah> can i see the kernel file in ubuntu?
[10:33] <dracnoc> Saeedullah: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:33] <bekks> Saeedullah: What do you want to see from that file?
[10:33] <bekks> dracnoc: thats the mainline kernel, not a supported one ;)
[10:34] <llutz> ed__: and are you sure the 8780 does support nmea at all? most of those devices need special drivers for translation into nmea which you probably won't find for linux
[10:34] <dracnoc> bekks: it'll give him something to play with ;)
[10:34] <Saeedullah> i want to see the code of kernel file?
[10:34] <Saeedullah> bekks i want to see the code of kernel file?
[10:34] <bekks> Saeedullah: It is far more than 2 million lines of code. Take some decades for reading it.
[10:34] <ed__> llutz: now pasting. yes its nmea supported. gps is ok in winxp
[10:35] <bekks> Saeedullah: What do you want to see in there?
[10:35] <llutz> ed__: winxp uses nmea-port driver i'd guess
[10:36] <llutz> ed__: _that_ is the piece of software translating proprietary input from device into readable NMEA-stream on virtual tty
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> Saeedullah  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile   <-- scrol down to 'get the kernel source'
[10:37] <bekks> Saeedullah: Do you have a specific Ubuntu issue with the kernel involved?
[10:37] <ed__> llutz. paste is demanding less than 64k! im not sure if its firmware, i need help on it
[10:37] <Saeedullah> dear
[10:37] <Saeedullah> no
[10:37] <llutz> ed__: run "dmesg|pastebinit"
[10:38] <Saeedullah> i just want to know how is it work in operating system
[10:38] <llutz> ed__: you might need "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" before
[10:38] <bekks> Saeedullah: It will take years to understand that. Start with using Ubuntu first.
[10:39] <ed__> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7446583/
[10:40] <ed__> thats so cool
[10:45] <llutz> ed__: "sudo modprobe sierra && ls -l /dev/ttyU*" any output
[10:47] <ed__> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7446607/
[10:50] <llutz> ed__: try minicom to manually work with those ttyUSB? devices, check if one of them gives some usefull output back
[10:51] <llutz> ed__: try to get a response to the commands shown at http://sierra-linux.wikia.com/wiki/AT_commands
[10:52] <llutz> ed__: but as said before, i doubt you will get a nmea-stream from that device under linux, because there is no software for that
[10:52] <Krishnamurti> I'm using vim in ubuntu,today i install a vimim in order to input chinese,but it doesn't work,who knows why?
[10:53] <ed__> ok, i stand advised. got to go but will be bacl later ta
[10:54] <Krishnamurti> is there anyone use vimim?
[10:57] <jack> i'm running a linuxmint-petra which uses ubuntu-saucy as a base
[10:57] <bekks> jack: And which is not supported in here, since you are using Linux Mint.
[10:58] <jack> does anyone know if i can safely bump the base to trusty?
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> jack  better aks in the !mint channel
[10:58] <Saeedullah> hello freind
[10:59] <Saeedullah> how to increase the copey speed in ubuntu?
[10:59] <bekks> Saeedullah: copy what from where to where?
[11:05] <Krishnamurti> I'm a emule fun,I'd like to download and share ed2k resourse in ubuntu,which tools should i use?please not amule and mldonkey,i have tried but i unstall them
[11:05] <bekks> Emule isnt dead? Awesome.
[11:06] <Krishnamurti> bekks:why do you say so?
[11:07] <bekks> Krishnamurti: Because emule died ages ago?
[11:08] <Krishnamurti> bekks:haha,no no
[11:08] <bekks> Krishnamurti: Actually yes. You are the second user I met in ten years who is still using emule.
[11:09] <bekks> Krishnamurti: However - did you run "apt-cache search emule" yet?
[11:10] <Krishnamurti> bekks:of course i did
[11:11] <Krishnamurti> bekks:I don't like amule and mldonkey
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> !p2p | Krishnamurti is this useful
[11:17] <prasant> hello
[11:31] <Radon_3> hi everybody, how can I disable Nouveau from loading and performing a kernel modeset?
[11:31] <Armag3dd0n1> what's the link for ubuntu touch
[11:31] <Armag3dd0n1> ?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> !touch
[11:32] <Radon_3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[11:32] <Armag3dd0n1> thanks
[11:33] <Radon_3> folks, how should i prevent nouveau rom modesetting and loading into kernel?
[11:35] <bekks> Radon_3: Blacklist the module.
[11:35] <bekks> Radon_3: Which graphics chipset do you have exactly?
[11:36] <nolan_> hi, just to know, best to use Chrome or firefox on the 14.04 xubuntu ?
[11:36] <Radon_3> I am about to blacklist it, but after reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088675 I thought maybe it wouldn't be enough
[11:36] <dw1> nolan_: personal preference
[11:36] <jack> nolan_: i love chrome
[11:36] <Radon_3> bekks: I  am in possession of a NVIDIA Gforce G210
[11:37] <nolan_> Okey ty =)
[11:37] <jack> smaller plus faster
[11:37] <bekks> Radon_3: G210 or G210m?
[11:37] <Radon_3> G210
[11:37] <Radon_3> no m
[11:37] <bekks> Radon_3: And which issue do you have, exactly, now?
[11:38] <Sceptic> How can I install Firefox 30 beta?
[11:38] <bekks> Sceptic: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[11:39] <Radon_3> WEll, this might take a while, but first I tried installing the drivers provided by ubuntu itself, but they didn't work, now I want to install the driver provided by nvidia themselves, the latest version, but the installation manual says that nouveau has to be disabled completely
[11:41] <Krishnamurti> Sceptic:just update?
[11:42] <Sceptic> Krishnamurti, what do You mean by "just"? I want to install and keep it fresh.
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> Sceptic then follow the link bekks gave you
[11:42] <Sceptic> bekks, Thank You
[11:43] <bekks> Radon_3: Do not install nvidia drivers manually unless you do know what you are doing there.
[11:43] <bekks> Radon_3: Better define "did not work" a bit more closely.
[11:44] <Radon_3> bekks: I see what could be implied by "what you are doing there" but non taken, so I want to use what my graphic card has to offer, though it is a cheap one
[11:44] <saeedullah> hello all friend
[11:44] <saeedullah> how to find the Easiest ubuntu Guide ?
[11:44] <bekks> Radon_3: What are you talking about?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !manual | saeedullah start here
[11:45] <Radon_3> bekks: didn't work meaning that I onyl got a blinking cursor (xorg didn't work fine with the driver)
[11:45] <abraxas> Hi, I installed 14.04 on a new drive. It didn't recognize my win 7 on sda, so i manually partitioned sdb and installed it there. It works, *BUT* I got no choice in the boot loader to boot my old win7 :-(
[11:45] <bekks> !nomodeset | Radon_3
[11:45] <Squarepy> abraxas, tried reinstall/configuring grub?
[11:45] <saeedullah> dear i want to learn visually ubuntu
[11:46] <abraxas> Not yet. Wanted to ask first.
[11:46] <Squarepy> do a dear
[11:46] <Radon_3> saeedullah: still on the subject of learning?
[11:46] <Radon_3> saeedullah: Gud luck brother
[11:46] <abraxas> I also disabled UEFI since the install.
[11:46] <saeedullah> tnx radon_#
[11:47] <abraxas> Will try to reinstall grub...
[11:47] <saeedullah> dear i want to learn basically ubuntu step by step just like visuallay
[11:47] <raspei-me> hi all
[11:47] <bekks> saeedullah: Then start reading the links given :)
[11:47] <saeedullah> my aim the learning pictuers wise it is possible or not?
[11:48] <llutz> saeedullah: no
[11:48] <bekks> saeedullah: Possible it is. Useful it is not. It will take far more time than just starting to read.
[11:48] <saeedullah>  this is defficult for me coze i am new one in this field http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[11:48] <manornk> Hi,
[11:48] <nodedfree> hi?
[11:48] <manornk> Hi, Is there Ubuntu Touch for Geeksphone Peak
[11:49] <saeedullah> give me instruction to work in ubuntu
[11:49] <saeedullah> i just installed it but how can work in ubuntu
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> saeedullah  learn it by using it, like you did with windows/mac
[11:49] <bekks> !manual | saeedullah just use ubuntu and start reading here:
[11:49] <saeedullah> i don't know starting from which one?
[11:50] <saeedullah> it is defficult for me
[11:50] <bekks> saeedullah: Thats part of the learning curve.
[11:50] <saeedullah> coze i don't have idea about it
[11:50] <bekks> saeedullah: Well, you still have to start.
[11:50] <saeedullah> ok
[11:51] <opalepatrick> WHat is the simplest way to see what is on another partition so I dont format the wrong one!
[11:51] <saeedullah> it is possible to see learning pictuer wise
[11:51] <saeedullah> did u know talk?
[11:51] <llutz> opalepatrick: mount it, check it
[11:51] <opalepatrick> ok thanks llutz
[11:52] <manornk> Hi, Is there Ubuntu Touch for Geeksphone Peak?
[11:52] <llutz> saeedullah: stop the nonsense now
[11:52] <Squarepy> saeedullah, do not repeat questions please, it is already answered
[11:52] <saeedullah> ohhhhhhhhh dear
[11:52] <saeedullah> i have to know the ubuntu
[11:52] <Radon_3> bekks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 is a very informative source of infomation, thank you for that, a few questions though, can I ask them?
[11:53] <llutz> saeedullah: then learn reading first. basic skill for all you ever want to know
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> saeedullah  yes, explore it a bit, click here and there etc
[11:54] <bekks> Radon_3: yes. just ask this channel.
[11:54] <skfax> How can I figure out which version of tar 12.04 has by default?
[11:54] <llutz> !info tar  precise | skfax
[11:54] <bekks> skfax: tar --version :)
[11:55] <nodedfree> apt-get remove tar
[11:55] <nodedfree> no need
[11:55] <bekks> nodedfree: sstop that nonsense please
[11:55] <Radon_3> OK, the following questions are about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 , and in relation with Nvidia property driver, in Ubuntu 12.04. Will the guidelines provided in that article also work for 12.04? 2-Will the options sugested in that article only prevent nouveau from modesetting once, or for ever?
[11:56] <AceKing> I wanted to put a fresh install of 14.04 32 bit on my laptop. I already have it dual booting with Windows 8. When I boot from the usb drive, and try to do a manual install, I keep getting: The partition table format in use on your disks normally requires you to create a separate partition.  I already have Ubuntu installed and dual booting fine. How can I fix this?
[11:57] <bekks> Radon_3: guess why the headings are "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS" and "How to permanently set kernel boot options on an installed OS".
[11:58] <skfax> bekks: I'm on 14.04 at the moment, but it seems like tar 1.27 broke a Yocto build I'm trying to get running. I see that 14.04 is running 1.27.1 - Would it be easy to just downgrade tar? I was considering just installing 12.04 since it's a virtual machine
[11:58] <cactuswizard> AceKing: you could try formatting the partition in win 8 and then try again
[11:58] <skfax> llutz: That was a pretty sweet bot function :)
[11:58] <Radon_3> bekks: well if I set it for temporal type of situation then what about the next time I boot to the system? Nouveau will still load, and If I set them permanently then nothing, not even nvidia would be able to perform modesetting, then.... :(
[11:58] <bekks> skfax: downgrading tar isnt that easy. And if some software relies on old version of _tar_ - throw it away and use some more sane software.
[11:59] <AceKing> cactuswizard: Which partion? Windows 8 doesn't recognize ext4
[11:59] <bekks> Radon_3: And you can tell us at least _one_ reason why it would be vital to use kernel modesetting with nvidia?
[11:59] <bekks> Radon_3: Or do you just think you need it?
[12:00] <AceKing> I'm already dual booting Windows 8 with Ubuntu. I just wanted to put a fresh copy of Ubuntu on
[12:00] <Radon_3> I am thinkng maybe something else (not only nvidia) maybe the OS itself would probably need it.
[12:00] <bekks> Radon_3: You are wrong with that.
[12:01] <Radon_3> so I am going to permanently disablemodesetting... does it sound good?
[12:01] <bekks> Radon_3: For testing purposes - sure.
[12:01] <abraxas> Hi after installing 14.04 on another drive and updating grub (didn't find my win7 first). My keyboard and mouse stopped working on win7??? They still work in the grub menu and stop working on the win7 login. Any ideas?
[12:01] <Radon_3> bekks: so you see, I am not a tester, I am a user man.
[12:02] <bekks> Radon_3: Actually you are a tester - you have an issue and you have to test a workaround.
[12:03] <Radon_3> bekks: Do you think it is such a good idea to first disable mode setting temporarily, install the Nvidia driver, and then remove Nouvoua drive totally, and then enable modesetting again??
[12:03] <Radon_3> do you thyink it would work?
[12:03] <bekks> Radon_3: Thats pretty much nonsense.
[12:03] <Radon_3> how so?
[12:04] <bekks> Radon_3: Install the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repos. Try booting. If it doesnt work, try using nomodeset. Try booting.
[12:04] <Radon_3> bekks: my deareset sweetest bekks I am trying to install drivers from nvidia website....
[12:05] <Radon_3> not from the repos
[12:05] <bekks> Radon_3: Do not do that.
[12:05] <Radon_3> why not honey?
[12:05] <bekks> You have no clue what you are doing, and your nvidia driver will break upon every kernel update.
[12:05] <bekks> If you call me honey once more, i will put you on ignore. I dont even know you.
[12:06] <Radon_3> bekks: well I sort of do, I am reading the manual.... ;(
[12:06] <bekks> Radon_3: you kinda dont, unless you are reading this:
[12:06] <bekks> !nvidia | Radon_3
[12:10] <abraxas> Just fyi: re-enabling UEFI Boot in bios solved my problem with the non-working keyboard an mouse.
[12:12] <asker> Hello.
[12:13] <_1_l> /
[12:17] <jwinterm> hi all, I have a kind of strange problem, wondering if anyone can help...
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !ask|jwinterm
[12:18] <jwinterm> I just installed 14.04 minimal install on a desktop with a 750W psu and two amd 270 gpus. The system boots, but only to tty1. I can run commands from the terminal, but if I run a command that will cause a lot of text to be output, the system crashes
[12:19] <jwinterm> for instance, "grub-install /dev/sda" is OK, only one line of text, but "grub-install --help" crashes computer
[12:19] <jwinterm> also, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" crashes computer
[12:19] <jwinterm> I'm thinking it's a power issue
[12:19] <mozzarella> what do you mean by "crash"?
[12:20] <jwinterm> not necessarily from psu, but maybe can't draw enough power from the wall
[12:20] <mozzarella> do you get a kernel panic?
[12:20] <jwinterm> screen kind of flashes then goes black
[12:20] <jwinterm> kaput
[12:20] <cfhowlett> jwinterm "power" meaning hardware? yeah, I can see that.  but any internal power issues should throw an error message if only to the logs
[12:21] <jwinterm> I mean power from the wall, like maybe circuit in the house isn't giving psu enough power and making it crash
[12:21] <jwinterm> is there a log file that would indicate that?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> jwinterm I've no knowledge of same but ##linux would know more
[12:22] <kreilog> hey, does anyone  the problem with BlueTooth after 14.04 ?
[12:22] <jwinterm> ok, I think I'm just gonna try and move it to a different circuit/part of house and see if that helps
[12:22] <kreilog> that the mouse won`t connect
[12:22] <cfhowlett> jwinterm that would be the easiest test ...
[12:25] <Aeterne> Hello. I have a problem that I cannot proceed to do anything after I attempt to log in on Ubuntu, and I can't seem to resolve the issue either.
[12:25] <Aeterne> How am I suppose to reinstall the thing when I can't even get internet because I can't login?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Aeterne you don't need internet to install.
[12:26] <Aeterne> Can you explain how I enter the shell and reinstall it without internet?
[12:27] <Aeterne> Of course, I'm so lucky that I can't even login in the shell... I suspect it's the ÆØÅ characters.
[12:27] <KGM70> it helps to have internet during installation for wifi detection tho
[12:27] <cfhowlett> Aeterne explain
[12:28] <Aeterne> My username is my name, which contains the Å-Norwegian letter, so I can't even login as root. This is all terribly convoluted. Bah.
[12:28] <Aeterne> And I have an exam I am suppose to be bloody writing for. Perfect timing, as it always is!
[12:28] <skfax> det årner seg
[12:28] <Aeterne> :( Det håper jeg.
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Aeterne  change your username to something more readable, and don't login as root
[12:29] <Radon_3> How can I determine which xorg configuration file Nouveau is using at the moment?
[12:29] <Radon_3> does nouveau use xorg.conf at all?
[12:30] <Aeterne> How do I do that without root privileges to begin with?
[12:32] <suci> hello all
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> Aeterne  doing something with root priviliges is not the same as login as root
[12:33] <asker> Is it possible to dual boot windows and ubuntu on a external hard drive? Say, I have 2 partitions, with ubuntu on one, and windows on the other. Would I be able to plug the external hard drive into a computer, and select windows or ubuntu using grub?
[12:34] <suci> anyone can help me to solve the error message while installing VGA driver. the error message is sorry, sorry the installation of this driver failed
[12:34] <Lorith[Alpha]> asker it theoritically possible
[12:35] <jiltdil> Hi there...
[12:36] <Aeterne> http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username
[12:36] <Lorith[Alpha]> since the bios saw the external HDD and internal equally i think
[12:36] <Aeterne> Literally every method
[12:36] <Aeterne> that lists how to change the username relies on administrative rights, MonkeyDust.
[12:36] <Aeterne> So if you could provide a link of some kind, that'd be helpful.
[12:36] <asker> Lorith[Alpha]: How would one accomplish that, though?
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> Aeterne  use sudo [command], if you want to do something as root
[12:37] <dw1> Aeterne: Ctrl-Shift-U then 00C5 then enter
[12:38] <Radon_3> would someone please tell me how to determine which xorg.conf file nouveau is using at the moment?
[12:39] <osse> Aeterne: are you sure your full name is the user name? usually when you install ubuntu you provide your full name and it generates a suitable username from it
[12:39] <dw1> Aeterne: may not work in console :(
[12:40] <dw1> Aeterne: but you could boot a liveusb then chroot with #3-7 here http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot to modify the filesystem
[12:40] <dw1> Aeterne: you can reinstall packages from there too
[12:41] <Aeterne> Hrmm... All I allegedly need to do is reinstall ubuntu-desktop as that's the thing that fails after updating the Ubuntu system, supposedly.
[12:41] <Aeterne> So would you recommend that, then?
[12:42] <dw1> Aeterne: yeah you can install it in a chroot
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> Aeterne  if you should reinstall, create a separate /home partition, som you personal files are safe
[12:42] <Aeterne> I already put /home in the 1TB SSD and put everything else in the 120GB SSD
[12:43] <Aeterne> If I lost 20k+ words of text... oh man.
[12:43] <Aeterne> I'd probably just give this semester a fond farewell.
[12:43] <Lorith[Alpha]> well, i never install in multiple drives, but i think it's 100% possible if you run diskless PC (just unplug the internal HDD) then treat it as installing windows+ubuntu dual boot
[12:44] <dw1> Aeterne: chroot is basically the same as logging into recovery mode as root
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> Aeterne  always backup important files
[12:44] <Lorith[Alpha]> aeterne u can drop to root privilege at recovery mode u know that right?
[12:44] <dw1> Lorith[Alpha]: he cant login cause of special character
[12:45] <Aeterne> ^  Thank you.
[12:45] <Aeterne> This is correct.
[12:47] <dw1> Aeterne: so boot a liveusb and in a console or terminal do the chroot (#3-7 at http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot) with your ubuntu root partition then you can reinstall packages and/or rename users/folders
[12:48] <Aeterne> I take it I replace /sda1 with my respective /root partition, yes?
[12:48] <dw1> yep
[12:49] <Aeterne> I did, but when I followed with the next step, it simply says mount point doesn't exist.
[12:49] <dw1> sounds like a simple error
[12:49] <dw1> wrong partition or no /mnt
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> brb
[12:50] <Radon_3> dw1: could you tell me how I can see which xorg.conf is being used by nouveau right now?
[12:51] <dw1> Radon_3: no idea...
[12:51] <Lorith[Alpha]> oi ae, so u need to change your username coz u can't login and uninstall some stuff right?
[12:51] <Radon_3> ;(
[12:51]  * osse is still wondering how he managed to create the user name in the first place
[12:51] <osse> all the times I've installed ubuntu the installer has forbidden it
[12:51] <dw1> maybe it was created after install then install username was deleted :)
[12:52] <Aeterne> Yes, Lorith. Also, osse, I have to assume it's the reason because the username / pw I use doesn't work when I enter into the shell.
[12:52] <Radon_3> whose username are we talking about? It sounds iunteresting.
[12:52] <Aeterne> I used the installation for many days until there was an update yesterday which, well, caused this when I woke this morning.
[12:52] <Aeterne> Bård Spein is the username.
[12:52] <auscompgeek> hmm, is there a compelling reason as to why ubiquity is preferring to to install to my second hdd?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Aeterne if it EVER worked, then user name is not the problem
[12:53] <Aeterne> Then why can't I even login to the shell? Ubuntu boots up just fine: it's that when I login, it just stalls, does nothing, nothing happens and I can't enter the desktop.
[12:53] <Aeterne> That's the problem here, just so I reiterate for everybody who's interested here.
[12:53] <Lorith[Alpha]> http://askubuntu.com/questions/410244/a-command-to-list-all-users-in-ubuntu
[12:53] <cfhowlett> Aeterne suggest you reboot and try an older kernel.
[12:53] <dw1> oh that doesnt sound like username
[12:53] <Lorith[Alpha]> check which one is yours
[12:54] <Lorith[Alpha]> from there
[12:54] <dw1> but the username will make it hard to get into recovery mode
[12:54] <Aeterne> OK, thank you. I'll do that.
[12:54] <dw1> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:54] <Lorith[Alpha]> recovery mode use root i think, not requiring any login
[12:54] <dw1> and /home/user/.xsession-errors
[12:55] <Lorith[Alpha]> brb trying my method in my pc
[12:55] <dw1> Lorith[Alpha]: oh is it automated ogin :/
[12:55] <Aeterne> Hrm... I can't really list all the users. Once again: I can't login to shell to begin with.
[12:56] <dw1> Aeterne: check logs in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[12:57] <dw1> someone just had a very similar problem 2 days ago but i forget the fix
[12:57] <osse> Aeterne: in case you haven't already, while booting the live system, *make a copy* of your important files
[12:57] <Lorith[Alpha]> restart> (in grub)advanced option for ubuntu>ubuntu blah2 (recovery mode)> root
[12:57] <dw1> files shouldnt be affected...
[12:57] <Lorith[Alpha]> no login whatsoever
[12:58] <Lorith[Alpha]> and oh it's root administrative
[12:58] <dw1> yeah i think they had no desktop package
[12:58] <gusey> did anyone get f.lux working on ubuntu 14.04?
[12:59] <dw1> Aeterne: to get the package you might need the internet and therefore liveusb + chroot as before
[12:59] <dw1> Aeterne: or dhclient from recovery might work
[13:00] <Aeterne> I should be good in terms of files.
[13:00] <caruso> hola alguien que hable español?
[13:00] <Aeterne> Let's see. So I need to check the Xorg logs.
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !es|caruso
[13:02] <Motzpuppe> hello, anybodyy cout there who could help me to install ubuntu 14.4 out of an old 12.10 Sytem?
[13:02] <dw1> Aeterne: "All I allegedly need to do is reinstall ubuntu-desktop as that's the thing that fails after updating the Ubuntu system,  supposedly.
[13:02] <Motzpuppe> mean could
[13:02] <dw1> Aeterne: was there some error
[13:02] <Aeterne> Not as I recall, no.
[13:03] <dw1> Aeterne: just guessing?
[13:04] <Aeterne> I'm pretty sure there wasn't, but at that point I had written about 6000 words and was on the verge of being lethargic. ;p
[13:04] <gusey> what is the best word processor for ubuntu?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> gusey the one that you prefer.  no "best" - it's a subjective choice.
[13:05] <Lorith[Alpha]> @gusey i'm fine with libre
[13:05] <milmih> Hi guys, I have a problem with my wifi, wherever it tries to connect to the particular router it doesn't recognize that it already saved the connection configuration and then it makes a new connection configuration and doesn't detect the right wifi security
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !best
[13:05] <milmih> can anybody help? tell me what do you need to know?
[13:06] <llutz>  cfhowlett factoid gone too :(
[13:06] <cfhowlett> llutz yeah, that last spring-cleaning wiped out some good ones.
[13:08] <Lorith[Alpha]> aeterne tell me your main objective, do u want to recover your file or smthing?
[13:08] <milmih> Guys, please, does anybody know anything about wi-fi connection and how can it not detect the right wifi security?
[13:09] <dw1> Aeterne: well if you cant get into unity you can always install one of a dozen other window managers if you can get connected to the net and use the package manager http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[13:09] <vlad_starkov> Question: Can anyone explain me how to properly restart networking without system reboot on Ubuntu Server 14.04?
[13:10] <dw1> Aeterne: i personally use gnome-session-flashback (gnome classic)
[13:10] <Aeterne> I still can't get to connected to the internet. The ethernet driver is weird, sadly, and wirelss has insufficient privileges.
[13:10] <gusey> edit and change the settings?
[13:10] <dw1> Aeterne: should be able to on liveusb ?
[13:10] <Aeterne> I'll have to reinstall and be done with it, I think. I simply have too much exam stress weighing on me in order to give me the patience I need to resolve it.
[13:10] <Aeterne> Sadly, I haven't been able to, no. :(
[13:11] <dw1> Aeterne: well in that case make an offline copy of files just in case :)
[13:11] <vlad_starkov> I changed settings in/etc/network/interfaces and then ran sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but no luck
[13:11] <llutz> vlad_starkov: sudo ifdown -a && sudo ifup -a
[13:12] <dw1> Aeterne: im sure you can boot a usb stick in live usb, mount the partition, grab the files .....
[13:12] <dw1> Aeterne: at worst
[13:12] <subz3r0> for newer ubuntu versions you should use: sudo service networking start/stop/restart
[13:12] <Lorith[Alpha]> +1 to dw
[13:12] <vlad_starkov> llutz: ok then, should I actually run "/etc/init.d/networking restart"?
[13:12] <llutz> subz3r0: networking restart is deprecated since ages
[13:12] <Aeterne> Yeah, dw1. :) I'm safe in that regard.
[13:13] <dw1> Aeterne: its really just a missing package or 2 but with no inet cant really fix it
[13:13] <dw1> Aeterne: though i dont see how a new install will be different than liveusb
[13:13] <dw1> Aeterne: as far as internet is concerned
[13:13] <llutz> vlad_starkov: tbh there is no clean way for ifupdown anymore. either use ifdown/ifup -a    or just the ifaces you changed
[13:14] <llutz> vlad_starkov: sudo ifdown ethX && sudo ifup ethX             like this
[13:14] <vlad_starkov> llutz: if I changed network bridges config?
[13:15] <auscompgeek> I have a system with two HDDs. Is it better to go with installing Ubuntu on a partition on my second HDDwhich doesn't have Windows, or install on my first HDD (which has Windows and a recovery partition)?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> auscompgeek install OS to one HDD and save all data to the other would be my choice
[13:17] <KGM70> auscompgeek, I use my 2nd hdd for linux , works well
[13:17] <dw1> Aeterne: the other option is copy package files to a usb stick from a computer with internet.......
[13:17] <dw1> Aeterne: but id try to fix the net
[13:18] <vlad_starkov> llutz: ok thanks
[13:19] <juwper> pm me anyone that can help me, I am stuck at initramfs prompt. Read all the forum posts, nothing helped me
[13:20] <daftykins> juwper: we do not PM here, help is asked for and given in-channel so that everyone can comment or benefit
[13:20] <juwper> ok, so anyone can help me with this?
[13:20] <daftykins> juwper: you're going to need to detail what happened to lead to this point before anyone knows where to start
[13:21] <juwper> i am totally newbie
[13:21] <juwper> tried to dual boot win8 and ubuntu 14.04
[13:21] <juwper> didn't detect ubuntu
[13:21] <Aeterne> Thanks to everyone who joined in helping me out. :) It didn't work out, but I appreciate the effort. I think I'll be going with Awesome after reinstalling.
[13:22] <juwper> formatted, tried to install ubuntu only
[13:22] <juwper> now it is always stuck in initframts
[13:22] <auscompgeek> cfhowlett: right, that's what I'd prefer. although, ubiquity wants to go the other way, which leaves me to question
[13:22] <juwper> tried boot rescue, etc, nothing worked
[13:22] <KGM70> juwper, use legacy mode in the uefi/bios
[13:23] <milmih> Hi guys, I have a problem with my wifi, wherever it tries to connect to the particular router it doesn't recognize that it already saved the connection configuration and then it makes a new connection configuration and doesn't detect the right wifi security
[13:23] <juwper> how is that?
[13:23] <milmih> can anybody help? tell me what do you need to know?
[13:23] <juwper> opened my bios lots of times, but has no configuration to do a few things i read at the foruns
[13:24] <KGM70> juwper,  look for legacy mode in your boot sequence section
[13:24] <auscompgeek> KGM70: does that cause any problems with booting either windows or ubuntu (e.g. would I have to choose which device to boot from)?
[13:25] <juwper> my bios doens't have that
[13:25] <Guest95346> Hello
[13:26] <poop> hi
[13:26] <Guest95346> Exploit has Left #ubuntu ()
[13:26] <Guest95346> hows  you all
[13:26] <juwper> KGM70, is there any diferrent way to enter bios appart from pressing f2 at the start?
[13:26] <Guest95346> Exploit (exploited@staff.foxatomic.net) has Joined #ubuntu
[13:26] <KGM70> auscompgeek, not a problem if you update grub in linux , then your windows install should be listed when you boot
[13:26] <mauro> ciao
[13:28] <KGM70> juwper, if you enter bios with f2 then that's the correct key for your machine
[13:29] <KGM70> juwper, what's your computer model ?
[13:29] <juwper> KGM70, Toshiba L500 5years old now
[13:30] <mauro> http://chat.ubuntu-it.org/#ubuntu-it
[13:31] <KGM70> juwper, ok then you probly don't have uefi , should have asked earlier... try holding down the left shift key right after the bios screen to bring up grub
[13:31] <auscompgeek> KGM70: I see. I think I'll resize my Windows partition though; I don't have as much space left on my 2nd hdd.
[13:32] <juwper> KGM70, i am switching to nickname juwper2 because I am using the Toshiba L500 with live CD, please reply to that nick, ok? thanks, will do what you are telling me and post there what happened
[13:32] <auscompgeek> KGM70: any compelling reason as to why installing on 2nd hdd would be better though?
[13:32] <KGM70> auscompgeek, it doesn't matter which hdd you use, as long as the OSs are onm separate drives
[13:33] <Lorith[Alpha]> @KGM edit: separate partition
[13:33] <auscompgeek> KGM70: drives or partitions? :)
[13:33] <Lorith[Alpha]> the right one is the partition
[13:34] <juwper2> KGM70, entered GRUB
[13:34] <KGM70> I'm sticking with your original questio auscompgeek , you can have windowes and linux on separate partitions on the same drive , if you want there's no rule against it
[13:35] <rp123> any sed gurus here?
[13:35] <KGM70> juwper2, ok , is windows listed ?
[13:35] <juwper2> no, i installed ubuntu only
[13:35] <auscompgeek> I understand that, but I'm asking whether there's a good reason why having them on separate drives
[13:36] <juwper2> entered gpart, put my hdd into only one partition and installed a fresh ubuntu
[13:36] <KGM70> juwper2, ok , so does ubuntu boot ?
[13:37] <Lorith[Alpha]> i'd rather install in different hdd if i need to resize  my windows partition, since i may ruin the content
[13:37] <juwper2> no, stays blank screen for a while and goes into initramfs after that
[13:37] <Lorith[Alpha]> if there's empty partition then i'll mess eith that
[13:38] <Lorith[Alpha]> *with
[13:39] <KGM70> auscompgeek, i find it more convenient to have separate drives for different installs
[13:40] <KGM70> auscompgeek, if one drive fails the computer can still be booted albeit with a boot cd, but it will still run
[13:40] <juwper2> KGM70, says: Gave up waiting for root device and gives an alert: /dev/disk/by-uuid/d44835e1-0da7-4888-9865-fbb1cdead46d dos not exist. and goes to initramfs
[13:42] <milmih> Hi guys, I have a problem with my wifi, wherever it tries to connect to the particular router it doesn't recognize that it already saved the connection configuration and then it makes a new connection configuration and doesn't detect the right wifi security. Can anybody help me, please?
[13:42] <KGM70> juwper2, do you see grub at all ?
[13:42] <juwper2> yes, i see grub
[13:43] <juwper2> now i don't
[13:43] <juwper2> i see command line only
[13:43] <juwper2> with initramfs
[13:43] <KGM70> juwper2, then choose the recovery kernel and choose repair option in the dialog
[13:45] <juwper2> KGM70, i have Ubuntu; Advanced options for Ubuntu; Memory test; Memory test (serial console), which should I choose?
[13:46] <UBuxuBU> did clean install of ubuntu 14.04 laptop booted to desktop and then mouse froze had to do hard restart and froze again??
[13:46] <KGM70> advanced options , then the recovery kernel, juwper2
[13:46] <UBuxuBU> i have run 1204 nicely on this same laptop
[13:46] <UBuxuBU> is something wrong with 1404
[13:47] <compdoc> 14.04 seems fine to me
[13:47] <juwper2> KGM70, did that, run a few command lines and stuck at initramfs again
[13:47]  * Lorith[Alpha] gave up in hardware thingy
[13:47] <KGM70> juwper2, in the command line you can login and update and upgrade there if you wish
[13:47] <UBuxuBU> wonder whats going on freezes up like a brick shorty after getting to desktop
[13:47] <juwper2> KGM70, how do i do that?
[13:48] <UBuxuBU> does 1404 need newer hardware or something?
[13:48] <KGM70> ctl+alt+f1 to f6 , should give a login prompt, juwper2
[13:49] <juwper2> ctrl+alt+f2 is the only that happens anything, but gives me a bank screen with cursor blinking
[13:50] <juwper2> no other happen anything
[13:50] <Lorith[Alpha]> UBuxuBU: i don't think so, just some hardware error *may* not supported yet since error never brought up to dev
[13:52] <juwper2> KGM70, ctrl+alt+f2 is the only that happens anything, but gives me a bank screen with cursor blinking
[13:52] <juwper2> KGM70, no other happen anything
[13:52] <ntg-work> I'm having problems binding my screen brightness keys. acpi_listen are not discovering the keys and xev is not seeing any input either, I'm fairly out of ideas what to do now, any tips?
[13:53] <KGM70> juwper2, sorry I'm out of ideas, unless someone else has one ... maybe try a reinstall
[13:54] <nith1210> juwper2: Would you mind recapping your issue?
[13:54] <juwper2> did that several times, nothing worked
[13:55] <juwper2> tried to install win8 and ubuntu 14.04 on dual boot system, found that it was very hard on internet foruns and i wasn't able too...so i formatted hdd and did a clean ubuntu 14.04 install. Now i am stuck on initramfs and can't login
[13:56] <nith1210> juwper2: Ok, so what message is busybox giving you?
[13:57] <juwper2> nith1210, gave up waiting for root device
[13:57] <KGM70> !nomodeset | juwper2
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[13:57] <juwper2> nith1210, says: Gave up waiting for root device and gives an alert: /dev/disk/by-uuid/d44835e1-0da7-4888-9865-fbb1cdead46d dos not exist. and goes to initramfs
[13:57] <uttqa> WILL debian net install  have drivers for mine wlan card?
[13:57] <Lorith[Alpha]> did some win7+ubu14 and get some error coz the windows read HDD as MBR but ubuntu read it as gpt. it "may" happen to you too
[13:58] <nith1210> juwper2: Do you have drives listed in /dev/disk/by-uuid ?
[13:58] <juwper2> nith1210, how do i see that?
[13:58] <juwper2> nith1210, sorry, i am completely newbie to ubuntu
[13:58] <nith1210> juwper2: just do ls /dev/sd*
[13:59] <nith1210> juwper2: np
[13:59] <juwper2> nith1210, says no such file or directory
[13:59] <nith1210> juwper2: Do you have two hard drives installed?
[14:00] <juwper2> no, just one
[14:00] <Aeterne> What's the difference between Reserved Bios boot and EFI boot partition?
[14:00] <Aeterne> Should I have an UEFI motherboard for the latter?
[14:00] <juwper2> nith1210, no just one
[14:02] <nith1210> juwper2: I'm sorry, my busybox usage is very rusty and family is calling.
[14:02] <jmirror> :/
[14:02] <nith1210> juwper2: You said that you reinstalled several times already?
[14:02] <juwper2> nith1210, yes
[14:03] <jmirror> Exploit has Left #ubuntu ()
[14:03] <nith1210> juwper2: When you reinstall, do you check the box which downloads updates during the initial install?
[14:03] <juwper2> nith1210, no
[14:05] <nith1210> I think your best bet is livecd; mount the / of your install; Print /etc/fstab onto paper, then restart and hit "e" for grub
[14:05] <nith1210> juwper2: think your best bet is livecd; mount the / of your install; Print /etc/fstab onto paper, then restart and hit "e" for grub
[14:05] <nith1210> juwper2: Change the uuid so that it matches what your fstab has listed for /, then boot. Once the os starts, sudo update-grub
[14:06] <nith1210> juwper2: I'm sorry I can't stick around to try to walk you through that but that's at least my recommendation.
[14:06] <jmirror> Hey Craig :P
[14:06] <juwper2> thanks
[14:06] <juwper2> nith1210, thanks anyway
[14:07] <gusey> lol "14.04 is the best! it used to take 5 seconds to bring up the dash now it only takes 3 seconds"
[14:09] <jmirror> Craig[iOS] has Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[14:10] <OerHeks> jmirror please stop that script, not allowed here
[14:14] <does> Ok,I have a question. I am trying to record my desktop,but i need too record the sound I make wile recording my desktop.  I am using RecordMyDesktop. Can i run a cable from my audio-out port into my audio-in port,or would that fry something? Thanks!!
[14:15] <airtonix> sigh produces no results... $ grep -Rin 'extra' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[14:15] <airtonix> however... lots of files with the word 'extra' in there
[14:15] <auscompgeek> I keep forgetting, do I want my main Ubuntu partition to be primary or logical?
[14:16] <juwper2> cannot run ubuntu 14.04 in graphic mode, always stuck in initramfs, can anyone help me?
[14:16] <holstein> !nomodeset | juwper2
[14:17] <daftykins> auscompgeek: depends on your current disk layout
[14:17] <holstein> juwper2: though, i think that could be a different error you are misinterpretting.. i would check my live bootable media and the md5 sums
[14:17] <juwper2> ubottu, thanks, tried to edit commands, but keep going to initramfs
[14:17] <juwper2> holstein, how do i do that?
[14:17] <qstrahl> Is there a way to differentiate between windows I as the user intentionally spawned and windows spawned by some process? I'd like to have windows spawn on associated workspaces "by default", unless I actively spawned them while on another workspace.
[14:18] <holstein> juwper2: ubottu is a bot, friend.. i asked it to share that information with you.. also..
[14:18] <holstein> !md5 | juwper2
[14:18] <auscompgeek> daftykins: I intend on having it on the same hdd as Windows; there's the OS and recovery partitions o  there already
[14:18] <daftykins> auscompgeek: MBR or GPT?
[14:19] <auscompgeek> daftykins: mbr
[14:19] <does> Anyone?
[14:19] <holstein> juwper2: its also quite easy to take the media to another machine.. ideally, one that has been known to support linux well, so you can rule out the issue you are seeing, and make sure its either graphics related, or, what i think it is, bad installation media
[14:19] <juwper2> holstein, i downloaded several linux distros, they all make this mistake
[14:19] <holstein> does: try it.. i have dont that, and it worked well
[14:19] <daftykins> auscompgeek: then yeah after a resize, i'd make the ubuntu / partition into a primary, then make the rest extended and put swap in there - will your /home be on another disk or there also?
[14:19] <holstein> juwper2: sure.. and your internet, and you, and if you are using the same USB stick, or optical drive to burn media are all constants
[14:21] <auscompgeek> daftykins: keeping /home on my /, don't really wanna screw things up
[14:21] <daftykins> auscompgeek: a separate /home is always good for reinstalls
[14:22] <random_user_6756> Hello, i tried to install xen on ubuntu, but when booting xen i get a black screen. Tried many tutorials. Any idea how to solve the problem?
[14:23] <daftykins> random_user_6756: so you're trying to boot the xen kernel?
[14:23] <random_user_6756> daftykins: yes
[14:24] <daftykins> random_user_6756: have you disabled the bootlogo and so on in the GRUB boot config to see if it streams messages and gets stuck somewhere?
[14:25] <random_user_6756> daftykins: no, how to do that?
[14:25] <sibu> i am not able to configure adobe flash player here,can someone please help..
[14:25] <jmirror> Adam has Left #ubuntu ()
[14:26] <auscompgeek> daftykins: hmm, that's true; although I have a 2nd HDD that's NTFS, I can always copy stuff there I suppose
[14:27] <jmirror> Exploit (exploited@staff.foxatomic.net) has Joined #ubuntu
[14:27] <OerHeks> !ot > jmirror stop that annoying script
[14:28] <daftykins> random_user_6756: hold left shift at boot, then go into the list of kernels and i think you press 'e' to edit the boot line, you have to change some of the parameters like quiet/splash but i'm not sure - you may find some advice online as to what to put
[14:28] <sibu> ?
[14:28] <random_user_6756> daftykins: thank you, going to try that, brb
[14:28] <daftykins> sibu: by configure you mean install?
[14:29] <sibu> yes
[14:29] <daftykins> !flash | sibu
[14:29] <daftykins> have a look there
[14:30] <sibu> Will try  ,that thank u daftykins
[14:30]  * daftykins bows
[14:32] <does> That worked!!
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> !yay
[14:37] <kewvw> Bonjour,
[14:37] <kewvw> Quelq'un?
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Sibu: if the guide is no good, head back here
[14:39] <random_user_5675> daftykins: found the error "INFO: NMI handler (arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace_handler) took too long to run"
[14:41] <Armag3dd0n1> what's the BEST download manager for ubuntu 14.04????
[14:41] <Zeusking19> Depends what you mean by download manager
[14:41] <Armag3dd0n1> flareget will not work for me
[14:41] <daftykins> random_user_5675: just checking, are you absolutely married to Xen for your intended virtualisation use?
[14:41] <Zeusking19> OK, hold on
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> !info flareget
[14:41] <Armag3dd0n1> zeu; i need a download manager that supports ssl and http downloads
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> Armag3dd0n1  what do you want to download?
[14:42] <Zeusking19> Have you tried uGet?
[14:42] <Armag3dd0n1> nope what is uget?
[14:42] <nutzz> hey guys, Where does gcc store stdarg.h header? If I write echo $PATH it displays me a blank line.
[14:42] <Zeusking19> !info uget
[14:42] <nutzz> $CPATH*
[14:42] <random_user_5675> daftykins: no, I just heard that xen is the best for gpu passthrough
[14:42] <Armag3dd0n1> thank you will try
[14:42] <Zeusking19> No Problems :)
[14:44] <Kurvivor> Hello! can i ask questions for dual-OS here?
[14:44] <daftykins> random_user_5675: what are you wanting a guest to have full graphics card access for?
[14:44] <Kurvivor> i have an extra HDD with Windows XP on it
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> Kurvivor  ask and wait
[14:44] <Kurvivor> And i would like to set up my system
[14:44] <daftykins> Kurvivor: if you can type your situation and query on one line, thatd be great.
[14:44] <Zeusking19> Kurvivor: I'll be happy to help
[14:44] <daftykins> Kurvivor: also know that XP is dead so every bit of advice should begin with "remove XP" :)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> !info fatrat Armag3dd0n1
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Gah
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !info fatrat | Armag3dd0n1
[14:45] <random_user_5675> daftykins: Yes, i have 2 cards(actually 1 is comming), so i could give 1 to a virtual machine
[14:45] <Kurvivor> I have extra HDD with windows XP. Wgat sgould i do to set up my system in a way that would allow me to load either Ubuntu (on my main/current HDD) or Xp?
[14:45] <linuxlite1991> sup
[14:45] <Zeusking19> Kurvivor: Well, how many HD's do you have in total? Do you want to install Ubuntu on a seperate HD?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: also has a webui so you can manage downloads from another system as well as add files to download
[14:46] <Armag3dd0n1> sc?
[14:46] <Armag3dd0n1> uget is too slow
[14:46] <Armag3dd0n1> :/
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Kurvivor: boot to ubuntu install cd, resize ntfs and install to the freed space
[14:46] <daftykins> random_user_5675: if you're going to try and game with Windows whilst having an ubuntu host OS... i don't think that's going to work out too well
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Kurvivor: you do know WinXP is dead
[14:47] <xangua> Armag3dd0n1: a download manager will not speed up your downloads
[14:47] <Armag3dd0n1> uget 10.1MB/s | flareget 19.8MB/s so yes it does
[14:48] <Armag3dd0n1> going to try fatrat now thanks
[14:48] <Armag3dd0n1> :D
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: jdownloader too, needs java
[14:49] <Armag3dd0n1> jdownloader sucks on windows so not sure about linux
[14:49] <daftykins> one does not knowingly suggest someone use java
[14:49] <daftykins> ;)
[14:49] <daftykins> Kurvivor: yeah XP should not be used anymore so i don't see any reason for you to dualboot with it.
[14:49] <Armag3dd0n1> has fatrat got a chrome plugin?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> i sometimes use XP in vbox
[14:51] <random_user_5675> daftykins: Why not, there are many videos of people playing games through xen on linux. Mostly arch and gentoo, but it looks doable.
[14:51] <daftykins> seems like a horrible idea to me
[14:52] <random_user_5675> daftykins: just the ubuntu part or the whole idea?
[14:52] <daftykins> all of it really :)
[14:52] <daftykins> random_user_5675: anywho, looks like maybe there's a bug in that kernel or something - maybe try and check there isn't a newer package available, or try a different distro
[14:53] <Armag3dd0n1> fatrat doesn't work eithert
[14:53] <Armag3dd0n1> handshake failed
[14:53] <Armag3dd0n1> ugh
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: try axel in cli
[14:53] <Armag3dd0n1> wut?
[14:53] <Armag3dd0n1> lol
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> !info axel
[14:54] <Guest29552> <- Looking for some help figuring out why tty's 1-6 show signal freq. OOR, but tty 7 is ok
[14:54] <Armag3dd0n1> flareget works and says the file is complete downloaded but in the folder the size is not righjt
[14:54] <random_user_5675> daftykins: actually i am a gentoo/funtoo user, and had some issues getting xen working there(kernel panic), so tried ubuntu :), anyway it should be working on kvm, so I will try KVM now.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest29552: sounds like your screen doesnt like the resolution of the tty
[14:55] <Guest29552> <- also how to change name to something other than Guest
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> !info flareget
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> !nick | Guest29552
[14:56] <Guest29552> ActionParsnip: ok, lemme change name
[14:57] <Zeusking19> !register
[14:57] <Zeusking19> nvm, already registered xD
[15:10] <Prometheas> hey all! any links to natty's ddeb repos? thank you
[15:11] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Prometheas
[15:11] <OerHeks> Prometheas, those are not online anymore, EOL. there is a way to get them, but that would be useless
[15:11] <OerHeks> see url from ubottu
[15:11] <Prometheas> thanks bazhang and OerHeks
[15:12] <daftykins> lol still running natty, that's insane
[15:12] <Prometheas> I'm developing a kernel module in the repos of natty
[15:13] <daftykins> Prometheas: so that it can be instantly redundant? seems like a waste of effort
[15:16] <cruisibesares> does anyone know where i can find the min spec for a maas cluster controller?
[15:18] <Anubis> hi
[15:19] <Anubis> i just update my ubuntu/kubuntu box and now my linux box won't start right
[15:19] <Anubis> i think it's something related to the 3.13 kernel
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> Anubis  "won't start"? what goes wrong?
[15:24] <Anubis> monkeydust: well it starts and then it throwing me a bunch of error messages most of them related to ipt and nf_conn
[15:24] <Anubis> and it's ending with SYSCALL or something like that
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Anubis: if you hold SHIFT at boot, can you boot an older kernel ok?
[15:25] <Anubis> right now i'm in recovery mode
[15:25] <Guest94430> hi, does installation partition for lunux needs to be Primary Or logical/extended will work too. i already have win 8
[15:25] <peterpacz1> Hello, I have a question: What exactly is the linux kernel? Is it "core" of the operating system, with the bare minimum of things to have a shell and a filesystem? Or is it more of a interface between the BIOS and the hardware, and the shell and filesystem are other things?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Anubis: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:25] <Anubis> ActionParsnip: i can see and select an older kernel 3.2x
[15:25] <bazhang> peterpacz1, thats outside the scope of this channel
[15:26] <peterpacz1> bazhang: What do you mean?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> peterpacz1: it manages hardware and RAM access to the OS it is built on
[15:26] <bazhang> peterpacz1, this is Ubuntu support
[15:26] <peterpacz1> ActionParsnip: So, if I plug the linux kernel into a CD, and try to boot from it, it wouldnt exactly work or do anything useful.
[15:26] <Anubis> ActionParsnip: 14.04 LTS
[15:26] <peterpacz1> bazhang: Your right, sorry.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> peterpacz1: the minimal iso is essentially that. Kernel + drivers + bootloader and a few tools.
[15:27] <Guest94430> hi, does installation partition for lunux needs to be Primary Or logical/extended will work too. i already have win 8.
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> peterpacz1: it doesnt do much on its own
[15:28] <peterpacz1> ActionParsnip: So, there won't be any command line or text editors, just the foundations of a system that /could/ have those things. Am I making sense?
[15:28] <Guest94430> linux*
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest94430: it doesnt make any difference
[15:28] <Guest94430> ok, thanks.
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> peterpacz1: the mini iso comes with vi and nano if memory serves
[15:29] <Guest94430> and as i read on web. unetbootin is fine to make bootable usb.
[15:29] <Guest94430> ?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest94430: its one tool to do it, yes
[15:29] <Guest94430> ok.
[15:29] <peterpacz1> ActionParsnip: Would there be a command line? Can I do basic commands like ls, mkdir, or cp? Or are those things not there?
[15:29] <peterpacz1> ActionParsnip: Is there even fancy things like sudo, or adduser?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> peterpacz1: yes you will get a bash shell and a few tools like package management
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest94430: you can install windows in a logical partition too. The default is to use primary though
[15:38] <Guest94430> windows is currently installed in primary type, intalling on logical will not interrupt dual mode!!
[15:38] <Anubis> well, for now i was able to start my linux box
[15:39] <Anubis> i think that the new kernel is not compatible with my firewall
[15:39] <Anubis> :)
[15:40] <Anubis> i guess i will have to install a newer version of the firewall
[15:41] <dress> *
[15:49] <ecod3> hello everyone
[15:49] <ecod3> enyone online?
[15:49] <chutwig> i'm running through an install in expert mode and after it installs the system, it gets to a point where it won't proceed past asking me to select normal or live, and in the syslog it states that live-installer succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured
[15:50] <chutwig> any ideas why it would be doing that? networking configured successfully and that's usually what i expect to see if networking is broken
[15:50] <nokia> .j #ubuntu-fr
[15:51] <boily> hi all! I'm trying to setup 14.04 on an old HP G60 laptop, but I'm having wireless issues. I managed to turn off the hardware rfkill switch (rmmod the ath5k driver and modprobing it again). now I can scan networks, but the connection drops as soon as authentication completes. anybody have a clue about what is going on? thanks!
[15:53] <doomlord_> in my current install ubuntu unity desktop seems quite a bit slower than 'xfwm' with compositing enabled - i still get the transparent terminals and dropshadows in the latter, but it moves windows around smoothly (i'm just talking about moving windows, not features like expo)
[15:54] <doomlord_> any idea if there are any settings i could tweak.. i notice thers' something going on with titlebar text antialiasing a bit different
[15:54] <bazhang> !info unity-tweak-tool | doomlord_
[15:55] <doomlord_> it seems to have some rgb 'noise' particularly on unfocussed windows. Perhaps something is going on like its assuming everything is transparent and compositing where xfwm doesn't
[15:55] <doomlord_> (in the past i've seen opqaue windows have a subtle gradient looking like they have 1% transparency toward the bottom or something)
[15:55] <doomlord_> i'm using ccsm at the minute.. looking for various settings
[15:56] <bazhang> why not try the tool I suggested doomlord_
[15:56] <doomlord_> ok i'll try that
[15:57] <doomlord_> XFWM is perfectly useable, but i do like the new menus in ubuntu
[15:57] <doomlord_> ^in unity i mean
[15:58] <win_> d
[16:00] <ktk2> How are the resolutions set for tty's 1-6?  I used monitor.conf to set res. and it seems to have only worked for tty 7. Result is signal freq. OOR on 1-6. Do I add entries in monitor.conf?
[16:01] <fafhnir> nAbned
[16:04] <sporg> I'm in the process of updating from 12.04 to 13.04 on an old laptop with a non-functioning monitor.  The vga cable came loose and now I can't get any picture on the monitor. What should I do?
[16:04] <sporg> external monitor*
[16:04] <doomlord_> ok been through 'unity-tweak-tool' .. interesting but doesn't seem to show anything over and above ccsm
[16:04] <xangua> sporg: why do you wanna update to a no longer supported release¿
[16:04] <jrib> sporg: why are you updating to 13.04 intead of 14.04?
[16:04] <Dat> how can I get the source list for kubuntu 14.10?
[16:04] <sporg> becaue you can't upgrade directly from 12.04 to 13.04
[16:04] <jrib> !14.10 | Dat
[16:04] <xangua> !14.10 | dat
[16:05] <sporg> *to 14.04
[16:05] <jrib> sporg: yes you can
[16:05] <sporg> not what i read
[16:05] <xangua> where
[16:05] <IdleOne> jrib: 12.04-14.04 is technically not supported until release of 14.04.1
[16:05] <doomlord_> i guess i'll stick with XFWM. no great disaster. can't find anything that affects speed
[16:05] <jrib> IdleOne: that's fair
[16:06] <sporg> anyway that doesn't matter
[16:06] <jrib> sporg: why not?
[16:06] <IdleOne> jrib: sporg in the mean time you can edit your sources.list to trusty and then run the upgrade but things could break. backups!
[16:06] <sporg> because the problem is that i'm in the middle of the update process and have no image, not that I'm doing the update process wrong in your opinion
[16:07] <sporg> is there something I can do to get vga output working again? a keyboard shortcut?
[16:07] <sporg> what happens if I power off in the middle of updating?
[16:07] <jrib> sporg: how did you upgrade?
[16:07] <sporg> using software updater
[16:07] <IdleOne> sporg: as far as the monitor not working (or the VGA port being broken) that seems like a hardware issue
[16:08] <sporg> no, the issue is that i knocked the cable loose
[16:08] <OerHeks> sporg, depends on the machine if it has fn key to switch internal/external monitor, not sure it solves youur odd issue
[16:08] <IdleOne> sporg: so plug it back in
[16:08] <sporg> nice one IdleOne
[16:08] <zakaria> Hello , how i can add adobe flash to ubunto ??
[16:09] <jrib> !flash | zakaria
[16:09] <IdleOne> sporg: if you interrupt the upgrade then you can start it over by running the same command you did to start it. You might have to run sudo apt-get -f install
[16:09] <sporg> thank OerHeks turns out I had a key to switch to external monitor
[16:09] <IdleOne> -f will attempt to fix any half installed or broken packages
[16:10] <zakaria> thank you
[16:12] <straterra> How goos is 14.04's UEFI support?
[16:12] <straterra> good^
[16:12] <chutwig> can i force the menu installer to move on to another step?
[16:13] <corpus> hi, everyone
[16:14] <OerHeks> !uefi | straterra, good as it gets
[16:15] <OerHeks> chutwig, no, why would you want that?
[16:16] <chutwig> because it's stuck on not proceeding past configuring the package manager and i want it to install grub and reboot so i can fix the sources later, because it already installed the base system
[16:16] <chutwig> guess i'll reboot to rescue mode and run grub-install from there
[16:24] <ecod3> i've tried to install inssider with wine but doesnt work. any link how to install innsider on ubutnu 14.04 and make it work as well???
[16:25] <OerHeks> ecod3, what package, inssider or innsider or ?
[16:25] <bazhang> ecod3, check the appdb
[16:25] <bazhang> ecod3, after that, /join #winehq
[16:26] <bazhang> !appdb | ecod3
[16:27] <ecod3> thnks guys but my actually question is if there is any inssider for linux. I mean any link where to install it using the terminal??? Thnk you
[16:28] <vandalism> chan
[16:28] <OerHeks> ecod3, there is no such package in repositories
[16:28] <bazhang> !equivalents | ecod3 check here
[16:28] <scarabee>  irc.freenode.net
[16:29] <ecod3> thank you
[16:29] <OerHeks> ecod3, there is a github, obsolete, 3 years old  https://github.com/metageek-llc/inSSIDer-2-Cross-Platform/downloads
[16:30] <ecod3> OerHeks, i've tried on my ubuntu 14.04 and dameged my system, and i had to reinstall ubuntu
[16:30] <xangua> http://sourceforge.net/projects/linssid/
[16:32] <ecod3> xangua, thank you. i know it, and i was just wondering if inssider working on linux. thank you all of you for help
[16:32] <day_> does anyone here uses eyefinity/nvidia surround?
[16:33] <day_> or at least multiple monitorsl?
[16:33]  * Osz see this one :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlIDnsce0z4
[16:36] <ethern0t> hello
[16:37] <ethern0t> need a hand here, wired thing filezilla is limiting speed without speed limit enabled, filezilla capping speed at 1.2MB, using bearftp gets 3MB ( same file download active connection), any hits about whats this ?
[16:37] <ethern0t> hints*
[16:38] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks!
[16:38] <GeorgeJ> How could I compile a go binary from a linux box, for a windows machine?
[16:39] <GeorgeJ> I've already got the standard library compiled for windows_amd64 by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/golang-go-windows-amd64
[16:40] <manaar333> hi
[16:40] <manaar333> salut
[16:40] <boily> manaar333: bonjour!
[16:40] <manaar333> salut
[16:41] <manaar333> boily salut! tu vas bien?
[16:41] <rvdv> !fr
[16:41] <nick0r0> Hello
[16:41] <boily> rvdv: thanks. you out-!fred me :P
[16:41] <juwper> hello guys, I need help as I am stuck in initramfs and cannot put ubuntu 14.04 in graphical mode
[16:41] <rvdv> :-)
[16:42] <GeorgeJ> OOps, sorry, it would appear I'm in the wrong channel. ^_^
[16:42] <juwper> I need a really good linux person to help me
[16:42] <boily> re. my previously mentioned HP G60 wireless problem, I now have a solution: add "nohwcrypt=1" to the ath5k options, rmmod/modprobe the module (not sure if needed), and one press on the damned wireless button.
[16:44] <manaar333> i want add ATP line about canonical partners
[16:44] <juwper> I need a really good linux person to help me
[16:44] <juwper> hello guys, I need help as I am stuck in initramfs and cannot put ubuntu 14.04 in graphical mode
[16:44] <manaar333> but i don't find it :(
[16:44] <manaar333> i just get xubuntu 14.04
[16:44] <manaar333> interesting
[16:45] <xangua> !partner | manaar333
[16:46] <juwper> anyone to help me?
[16:46] <juwper> I am stuck in initramfs and cannot put ubuntu 14.04 in graphical mode
[16:47] <MasterOfDisaster> juwper: eh.. sure it's initramfs and not just regular console mode?
[16:48] <juwper> MasterOfDisaster, sure
[16:48] <quem> s'il te plaït.
[16:48] <juwper> MasterOfDisaster, it says (initramfs) and cursor blinks
[16:49] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[16:50] <jack> my amd64 system is getting lots of i386 infos during apt-get update...
[16:50] <jack> can i remove/disablke that in sources.list?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> jack  here too, guess it's normal
[16:51] <MasterOfDisaster> jack: it's normal.
[16:51] <juwper> OerKejs, can you help me with that?
[16:51] <MasterOfDisaster> jack: wine for example pulls a lot of i*86 stuff.
[16:51] <juwper> Oerheks, can you help me with that?
[16:51] <OerHeks> juwper, it is an excellent howto
[16:52] <MasterOfDisaster> jack: apt-cache tells you more about it. see apt-cache dotty for example.
[16:52] <juwper> OerHeks, I am totally newbie to linux
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> juwper  read the howto, so you will be less newbie
[16:53] <juwper> OerHeks, that's not the help i need, i tried almost everything i read, nothing works
[16:54] <erle-> sudo gives me memory leak warnings all the time
[16:54] <juwper> OerHeks, i tried to put nomodeset to grub but i don't know how...tried the live session but doens't let me save the grub file says no permissions
[16:55] <erle-> is it supposed to scare newbies?
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> erle-  it is
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> erle-  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[16:56] <h3r1> hello there... i made a  reinstall of ubuntuon my laptop... i have an encrypted home folder... i used to share the desktop folder via samba without problems. now after the reinstall it says it cannot mount it... any idea how i can fix this
[16:57] <juwper> Guys, i really need help here, i want to install ubuntu as the only OS in my pc, but can't put it into graphical mode
[16:58] <erle-> MonkeyDust, since 14.4, sudo does this: http://pastebin.com/xnpgzZ6f
[16:58] <MasterOfDisaster> juwper: please at least try what people suggest, before you keep whining.
[16:59] <erle-> MonkeyDust, doesnt it do it on your machine?
[16:59] <juwper> guys, i really mean it, i have tried everything i could, i am trying to install this for a week now and this is the last chance for me
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> erle-  no, butg i'm not in ubuntu, right now
[17:02] <jack> MasterOfDisaster: yeah i know
[17:02] <jack> but my question was if it's possible to remove those sources
[17:03] <h3r1> hello there... i made a  reinstall of ubuntu on my laptop... i have an encrypted home folder... i used to share the desktop folder via samba without problems. now after the reinstall it says it cannot mount it... any idea how i can fix this?
[17:03] <pakair> jack, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:04] <Locke2002> erle-: It looks like this problem: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214042
[17:05] <nick0r0> ubottu: You can answer questions?
[17:06] <h3r1> #ubuntu-server
[17:06] <nick0r0> ubottu: You're pretty cool for a bot! Don't sell yourself so short :).
[17:06] <bazhang> nick0r0, /msg ubottu please
[17:06] <juwper> guys, stuck in initramfs command line, anyone can help me, been trying to fix this for a week now and nothing worked...
[17:07] <bazhang> juwper, what happened when you used the nomodeset option
[17:07] <jack> pakair: is that a yes? removing the i386 entries won't hurt?
[17:07] <kadir> server
[17:07] <jack> great - thx
[17:08] <juwper> bazhang, edited the grub file but can't save it as I have no permission to do it
[17:08] <ethern0t> need a hand here, wired thing filezilla is limiting speed without speed limit enabled, filezilla capping speed at 1.2MB, using bearftp gets 3MB ( same file download active connection), any hints about whats this ?
[17:08] <juwper> bazhang, can you help me trying that path?
[17:09] <pakair> jack, the sources.list has repositories which you can remove (or comment putting a # in front). Then an apt-get update will use ONLY those repos in the sources.list
[17:09] <bazhang> juwper, have you read the link? how are you trying to access it? regular system boot/live cd? pastebin the errors you receive
[17:09] <bazhang> !paste | juwper
[17:10] <juwper> bazhang, i tried in live cd
[17:11] <vrun> hi
[17:11] <Arr0W> hry
[17:12] <Arr0W> hey
[17:12] <juwper> bazhang, doens't let me save the grub file neither update the grub, it says something about /cow on canonical
[17:12] <vrun> where do you live?
[17:14] <vrun> do the people write in this chat?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> vrun  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic for social chit chat
[17:15] <pakair> vrun, this is the ubuntu channel ... have a question? ask.
[17:19] <j54h> i have a problem with an encrypted home folder... i used to share the desktop folder via samba without problems. now after the reinstall it says it cannot mount it... anybody
[17:21] <mpduty> which ubuntu project do I join to popularize ubuntu in villages of India?
[17:21] <bazhang> mpduty, try in the #ubuntu-in channel
[17:22] <mpduty> ok thanks
[17:28] <bmk789> I have a bcm4318 im trying to get working on trusty, can anyone help for a btc tip?
[17:29] <bazhang> !broadcomm | bmk789
[17:29] <bekks> bmk789: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[17:29] <bazhang> -m
[17:30] <xeno_> I am trying to install an ubuntu iso on a pin drive.  It says erasing...
[17:30] <bekks> xeno_: Yes.
[17:30] <bmk789> i have the bc43 module installed and i can see wlan0 but I dont have any gui to configure my network and iwconfig isnt liking my wpa
[17:32] <day_> is it possible to stretch a movie across multiple monitors?
[17:32] <day_> with bezel correction obviously
[17:35] <ubuntu-studio> Hi there, Does anyone use ubuntustudio for video editing?
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-studio  try #ubuntustudio
[17:35] <XDS2010_> sign it !  https://www.change.org/petitions/cw-network-mark-pedowitz-cbs-corporation-renew-star-crossed-for-a-second-season
[17:36] <ubuntu-studio> thanks
[17:36] <ubuntu-studio> #ubuntustudio
[17:36] <tehdot_class> I'm trying to upgrade xmbcbuntu with do-release-upgrade and keep getting a broken or held file error. Here is the contents of my apt.log from the download attempt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7448428/
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> tehdot_class  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[17:39] <tehdot_class> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[17:39] <pakair> bmk789, I had a rough time with 4318, bought an Intel 2200 for my laptop and everything works. My 2c
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> tehdot_class  try do-release-upgrade -d
[17:40] <someHuman> Is there an available Ubuntu 14.04 LTS documentation in PDF?
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> tehdot_class  mind: -d means development
[17:40] <tehdot_class> MonkeyDust: raring: error: no such option: --devel-release
[17:43] <ubuntu-studio> Hi all. Does anyone know if unbuntustudio's kernel is optimized for video editing? I'm currently comparing ubuntustudio 14 xfce and Linux Mint 16 xfce, but see no difference when using openshot or kdenlive with HD-videos.
[17:43] <xeno_> Crashed trying to write to a USB drive just now from Ubuntu.
[17:43] <xeno_> Just got back.
[17:44] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: What do you expect to see then, actually?
[17:44] <xeno_> The utility was taking 100% of cpu from 2 of four last point I was able to see.
[17:44] <loa> ubuntu-studio, it comes with lowlatency kernel
[17:44] <xeno_> It said not enough space, but was also trying to erase the USB drive.
[17:44] <ubuntu-studio> I watched the cpu-amount in top. Expected it to be less in ubuntustudio
[17:44] <bekks> xeno_: And?
[17:44] <loa> so it can be much better to use normal ubuntu with high threwoutput
[17:44] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Because?
[17:45] <xeno_> It kept slowing down until about 5 minutes ago it froze up and I had to turn off the machine to get access back.
[17:45] <ubuntu-studio> bekks: because of low latency kernel
[17:45] <loa> lol
[17:45] <loa> ubuntu-studio, you know nothing about low latency and for what it used.
[17:46] <ubuntu-studio> loa: that's correct
[17:46] <xeno_> I have standard Ubuntu installed.
[17:46] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: You can easily install a low-latency kernel in Ubuntu.
[17:46] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Check wether the low latency kernel is in use, actually.
[17:46] <xeno_> 13.10
[17:47] <ubuntu-studio> loa: so there's no benefit for me to install ubuntustudio?
[17:47] <loa> ubuntu-studio, simply it helps to create more responsible system, for example for musicians.
[17:47] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: No, no benefit.
[17:47] <loa> ubuntu-studio, looks like no.
[17:47] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Unless you are doing real time editing, like musicians, you will have no benefit at all.
[17:48] <loa> i used little ubuntustudio and i like that they installed default software.
[17:48] <ubuntu-studio> bekks: hmm, so low latency has no effect on HD-video?
[17:48] <loa> default for musicians *
[17:48] <loa> ubuntu-studio, it has)
[17:48] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Correct. No Effect at all.
[17:48] <loa> it slowing things down
[17:48] <bekks> loa: :P
[17:49] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: It lowers latency for the sake of increased context switches for long running aplications - like video editing.
[17:50] <sam__> I can't open local swf file with chromium in ubuntu 14.04 . any fix for that?
[17:51] <ubuntu-studio> bekks: I like the cinnamon-desktop. So is it better for me to use ubuntustudio with cinnamon? Or to use Linux Mint with cinnamon?
[17:51] <red45923> where in the file system is the trash bin located on ubuntu?
[17:51] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: "Better" is a personal choice. Mint isnt supported in here.
[17:51] <bazhang> !trash | red45923
[17:52] <Squarepy> what? support is beside the point
[17:52] <red45923> thanks bazhang
[17:53] <ubuntu-studio> bekks: Ok, but if HD-editing won't be better with ubuntustudio. So usual ubuntu will do the same?
[17:53] <Squarepy> ubuntu-studio, when you are into multi-media, mint if you want a leaner desktop
[17:53] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Correct.
[17:53] <loa> how i can create multi line notifications?
[17:53] <bekks> Squarepy: You dont need mint for a "leaner" desktop.
[17:54] <loa> it will be cool if there will html support too.
[17:54] <ubuntu-studio> bekks and Squarepy: thank you
[17:54] <loa> for example for ability to play sounds.
[17:54] <loa> want to create notification about provider balance.
[17:55] <trism> loa: notify-send "Subject" "This is line one\nThis is line two\nLine three..."
[17:55] <ubuntu-studio> bekks: cinnamon will work on ubuntu as well I think
[17:55] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Yes. So no need for anything else but Ubuntu.
[17:55] <OerHeks> loa,  this page may be a help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[17:55] <sam__> I can't open local swf file with chromium in ubuntu 14.04 . any fix for that?
[17:55] <OerHeks> ubuntu-studio, cinnamon is out of our repos
[17:55] <ubuntu-studio> OerHeks: why is that?
[17:55] <loa> how i like support here.
[17:56] <bekks> !info cinnamon
[17:56] <bekks> Ah, it vanished in trusty.
[17:56] <OerHeks> ubuntu-studio, as it is removes, glad it is.
[17:56] <OerHeks> *removed
[17:56] <loa> you all are awesome.
[17:56] <vsevolodshchegol> Привет
[17:57] <bekks> !ru | vsevolodshchegol
[17:57] <ubuntu-studio> ok, then I think I'm gonna go install Mint instead of ubuntu
[17:57] <erle-> why is there lib32 and libx32?
[17:57] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Good luck then.
[17:58] <ubuntu-studio> bekks: you don't like?
[17:58] <kat_> hi, is anybody on today?
[17:58] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: It isnt supported in here.
[17:59] <ubuntu-studio> bekks: ok, I'll sleep a night over this decision
[17:59] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: decision: support vs. desktop.
[17:59] <kat_> guys, I just downloaded Minecraft. On other distros, I had to have javajdk6 or 7. But I can't find it in the synaptic package. What should I do?
[17:59] <bekks> kat_: JDK6 is EOL basically.
[17:59] <kat_> I mean, to open minecraft, you have to open it with java
[17:59] <bekks> !java | kat_
[18:00] <kat_> o.k. I'm writing this downl.
[18:00] <OerHeks> if other distros provide java6/7, i wonder about legal stuff
[18:03] <kat_> awesome   thanks!
[18:04] <xeno_> Trying again.
[18:04] <xeno_> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[18:04] <xeno_> I just initialized this usb memory on my windows system.
[18:05] <bekks> xeno_: And thath message is caused by what when doing what?
[18:05] <xeno_> I don't care about anything that is on it.
[18:05] <xeno_> By using the "Make startup disk" utility on a usb drive.
[18:06] <xeno_> I am configured to read a Ubuntu server iso and write to the drive.
[18:06] <xeno_> Last time I tried this, and continued, it froze up my system.
[18:06] <xeno_> Right now it says erasing, but it seems to be doing nothing.
[18:07] <bekks> !usb | xeno_
[18:07] <xeno_> According to top this tool is already using up 99% on each of two cpus.
[18:07] <bekks> xeno_: And "wa" (2nd row) is pretty high, is it?
[18:07] <xeno_> I think I am already following those instructions.
[18:08] <zetheroo> which photo editor has the best array of photo effects?
[18:08] <bekks> zetheroo: "best" is a personal choice. Try out photo editors and choose the one that fits your needs.
[18:08] <xeno_> 0.1 wa
[18:08] <bekks> xeno_: Then check which application is causing the CPU usage.
[18:09] <xeno_> udisks-helper
[18:09] <zetheroo> bekks: in that case ... which photo editor has the largest array of photo effects?
[18:09] <xeno_> udisks-daemon
[18:09] <xeno_> Both of those are using 100%, or near it at all times.
[18:10] <rp123> any sed experts in here?
[18:10] <xeno_> This is from the top of top
[18:10] <xeno_> I am a sed expert,  but I may lose my connection any minute...
[18:13] <walent11> hi,
[18:13] <rp123> haha xeno
[18:13] <xeno__> Back again after 2nd freezeup from boot disk making tool.
[18:13] <bekks> zetheroo: Just choose the editor that fits your needs, the number of effects is pretty irreleavnt.
[18:13] <rp123> :)
[18:14] <rp123> good timining
[18:14] <walent11> i'm installing ubuntu on external hdd, but i get grub error rescue.... I'm at installation now, can you tell me what partitions to make, + i need a NTFS one for windows transfer
[18:14] <xeno__> rp123 I missed anything you might have said in the meantime of course.
[18:14] <rp123> i am trying to do an extract from an xml file (i know, puke) and its across multipel lines
[18:14] <rp123> its alright, i didn't say anything anyway
[18:15] <bazhang> zetheroo, try imagemagick
[18:15] <xeno__> Okay, that is complex enough you are better off, if possible using something like Ruby with one of its' xml parser gems.
[18:15] <darkseid> Greetings...
[18:15] <xeno__> Ruby is more accessible in many ways than Bash and Sed.
[18:15] <rp123> http://pastebin.com/WhegZCCg
[18:15] <rp123> i want to extract the version in <string> tag
[18:16] <zetheroo> bekks: I take it you just don't know which photo editor has the largest array of photo effect ... A simple "I don't know" would have sufficed  :P
[18:16] <rp123> the problme is there are other <string> tags as well so i am not sure how to go about it
[18:16] <bekks> zetheroo: I take that as "I have no clue what I really want". Good luck.
[18:16] <rp123> i would have ideally used xmlselect for this
[18:17] <rp123> but i am writing a grunt task, and want to just use somethingt hat is installed by default
[18:17] <Paradisee_> hello
[18:17] <bekks> rp123: Dont try to parse some XML using sed.
[18:17] <rp123> xmlstarlet
[18:17] <zetheroo> bazhang: I have tried to use that but my pics open up incredibly magnified and I don't see any options or program buttons etc
[18:17] <darkseid> I'd like to know, how can I change the proprietary of all paths of my home directory. I had one problem and the only choice was move everything from one user to another under root. I tried 'chown root:darky /darky" but, didn't worked.
[18:17] <rp123> agreed, i wouldn't if i had an option :)
[18:17] <rp123> ok i am going to re-write bits of it without it
[18:17] <Paradisee_> i get this error: http://postimg.org/image/z6igt4ls9
[18:18] <bekks> Paradisee_: When doing what?
[18:18] <Paradisee_> trying to install ubuntu
[18:18] <qwd> How do I install biblatex on Ubuntu 14.04?
[18:18] <bazhang> zetheroo, you need to learn how to use it then, it's very powerful
[18:18] <bekks> !info biblatex
[18:18] <zetheroo> bekks: There was clue in my question ... it was something like a "photo editor has the largest array of photo effects" ... ;)
[18:19] <bazhang> qwd, apt-cache search term for it
[18:19] <bekks> zetheroo: And you still dont know what you really want. I am resting your case.
[18:19] <darkseid> I'd like to know, how can I change the proprietary of all paths of my home directory. I had one problem and the only choice was move everything from one user to another under root. I tried 'chown root:darky /darky" but, didn't worked.
[18:20] <zetheroo> bazhang: hmm ... ok ... I am looking for something with preset photo effects .. similar to what Google Photos has
[18:20] <pakair> qwd, install package texlive
[18:20] <lucidau> hi, I#m installing 14.04 amd64 from a minimal iso, I have internet connectivity but install fails with debootstrap error failed getting release signature file. I tried several mirrors they all fail the same way, what do?
[18:20] <xeno__> echo '<string>1.3.2</string>' | sed 's:<string>\([^<]*\)</string>:\1:'
[18:20] <xeno__> rp123
[18:21] <xeno__> That is a start.
[18:21] <xeno__> You can pipe a grep to that.
[18:21] <xeno__> The idea of the regular expression is take the string until you find a <
[18:21] <zetheroo> bekks: uhm ... your kidding right!? How does "a "photo editor has the largest array of photo effects"" not tell you what I am looking for!? :D
[18:21] <bekks> zetheroo: I am not kidding. I am resting your case.
[18:21] <darkseid> I'd like to know, how can I change the proprietary of all paths of my home directory. I had one problem and the only choice was move everything from one user to another under root. I tried 'chown root:darky /darky" but, didn't worked.
[18:21] <xeno__> The \1 holds what is in \(.*\)
[18:22] <xeno__> rp123:  Does that help?
[18:22] <xeno__> The whole thing might be grep '<string>' | same thing as I said above.
[18:22] <darkseid> c'mon.....
[18:23] <xeonid> darkseid: sudo chmod 777 /root && sudo chown user.user /root
[18:23] <xeno__> Perhaps this is off topic though.
[18:23] <bekks> xeno__: that will mess up permissions of /root
[18:23] <xeonid> darkseid:  and edit /etc/passwd and change your homepath
[18:23] <darkseid> xeno__: Ok, what means 777 ?
[18:23] <awktion> !permissions
[18:23] <walent11> quick question.... install boot loader on dev/sdc or dev/sdc5
[18:23] <xeno__> What?
[18:24] <xeonid> darkseid: man chmod
[18:24] <awktion> darkseid: take a look at that link
[18:24] <xeno__> bekks? Are you cross topic confused?
[18:24] <zetheroo> bekks: forget it man - next time just say "I don't know what your looking for" or better yet don't say anything at all if you don't know the answer to the question ... its nerve-wrecking to have people lecturing you on a word you used in a question (like "best") and then not know anyhow anything about your question!
[18:24] <bekks> xeno__: No.
[18:24] <awktion> '18:23:07' < xeonid> darkseid: sudo chmod 777 /root && sudo chown user.user /root
[18:24] <rp123> xeno__ the problem is i can't access \1
[18:24] <awktion> this means:
[18:24] <bekks> zetheroo: Ignore set. Not even reading your last post.
[18:24] <xeno__> Sorry, how can a solution for rp123 problem affect permissions.
[18:24] <awktion> set read/write/executable for the user that owns it, its group, and all other users on the system
[18:24] <zetheroo> Ha! touchy thing ay ...
[18:25] <awktion> then, it sets root to be owned by user/group user
[18:25] <awktion> which is usually drwx------ 11 root root 4.0K May 11 02:00 root
[18:25] <awktion> so hopefully there's a really good reason for this...
[18:26] <xeno__> rp123:  There is a context problem here.
[18:27] <xeno__> Sed in it's proper context of use will do what I said, on bash on Ubuntu.
[18:27] <xeno__> rp123:  Are you doing this on bash on ubuntu?
[18:27] <pakair> awktion, actually 777 will set perms as -rwxrwxrwx
[18:28] <lblume> and 777 is quite always a bad idea.
[18:28] <awktion> that's what i said pakair
[18:28] <awktion> user|group|all
[18:28] <awktion> 7|7|7
[18:28] <lucidau> how can I select the fastest mirror from the command line?
[18:28] <awktion> 4+2+1|4+2+1|4+2+1
[18:29] <xeno__> Okay, please back to my woeful case...
[18:29] <chomwitt> during an  upgrade from 13.10->14.04 terminal became black. i no longer have progress feedback
[18:29] <Paradisee_> how can i solve this? http://postimg.org/image/z6igt4ls9
[18:29] <chomwitt> what should i do?
[18:29] <awktion> read=4 write=2 execute=1
[18:29] <darkseid> xeonid, awktion: Fine, thanks.... Worked now and I see where was wrong..
[18:29] <awktion> ^^;
[18:29] <awktion> does that make sense pakair ?
[18:30] <awktion> when you look @ the letters you should be able to translate to #'s and back and forth
[18:30] <awktion> !setuid
[18:30] <pakair> awktion, yes ... earlier someone posted drwx------ which did not match 777
[18:31] <xeonid> Paradisee_: by installing correct driver to your gfx chipset ?
[18:31] <Paradisee_> im just tring to install ubuntu, and i get that error
[18:31] <qwd> pakair: thanks, guess I already had it!
[18:32] <pakair> qwd, good
[18:32] <Paradisee_> cant even modify nothing, cus the menu doesnt work properly
[18:32] <darkseid> xeonid, awktion: Actually, now it is worse.. I'm downloading things and that's the message: FAILED: INSUFFICIENT PERMISSION
[18:32] <Paradisee_> im just able to type on the terminal, that's it
[18:32] <darkseid> xeonid, awktion: Instead root, should it be sudo?
[18:32] <sam__> Guys I'm having problem with ubuntu 14.04. I can't open local swf files with any browswer. somone told me to install gnash I did but its a useless software
[18:32] <xeonid> darkseid: ls -lart /path/to/download/dir
[18:33] <sam__> any better idea??
[18:33] <xeonid> put it on pastebin.com
[18:33] <awktion> pakair: i posted that, its NOT 777. it's what a root directory defaults to - only readable by root
[18:33] <awktion> there's one more line in the permissions, that's for attributes
[18:34] <pakair> awktion, ok got it
[18:34] <awktion> setuid/setgid/sticky
[18:34] <darkseid_> I lost the connection...
[18:34] <darkseid_> sudo didn't worked too..
[18:34] <Yatiro> hallo
[18:35] <overlayer> sam__, you call gnash useless and still expect help from the community?
[18:35] <awktion> and don't forget immutable
[18:35] <Yatiro> jemand deutsches heir der mir an meinem kleinen ubuntu problem mit phpmyadmin weiter helfen kann?
[18:35] <awktion> chanywayz
[18:35] <xeonid> darkseid: which directory are u using , /home/usernam or /root ?
[18:35] <awktion> deutsches?
[18:35] <Yatiro> von mir aus auch ein detuscher
[18:35] <sam__> overlayer: well I tried it and it didn't open my swf file. I can send it to you. you can try to open with gnash or tell me how to do it
[18:35] <awktion> !german|xenoid
[18:35] <Yatiro> ich weiss nciht weiter snif
[18:36] <sam__> overlayer: first of all it doesn't open in browser
[18:36] <xeonid> i'm not german
[18:36] <sam__> overlayer:  so my cookies won't be there when I open with gnash
[18:36] <darkseid_> xeonid: How can I undo that command?
[18:36] <pakair> !german | Yatiro
[18:36] <chillpill_>  Translation failed
[18:37] <darkseid_> sudo chmod 777 /root && sudo chown darky:darky /root
[18:37] <darkseid_> It's everything blocked now..
[18:37] <xeonid> darkseid_: type. sudo chown root.root /root , but i don't think thats help
[18:38] <Yatiro> -pakair test
[18:38] <pakair> Yatiro, I'm here
[18:39] <xeonid> darkseid_: i think that you should at first read something about bash chmod chown path and configuration files  than start play with linux
[18:40] <Yatiro> pakair u read me?
[18:40] <pakair> Yatiro, yes
[18:40] <Yatiro> ok ten i continue
[18:42] <darkseid_> xeonid: I'll explain: I moved all files from an user to another using 'sudo su' mv'. Now, I cant manage those files, cause apparently the user 'darky' isn't the owner. I just want to change it. I want 'darky' as the owner. Darky is in sudo group..
[18:43] <Yatiro> ist query pm?
[18:44] <xeonid> darkseid_: you can't manage that files because you don't have any permissions to /root so login as root $: su and move these files somewhere else
[18:45] <pakair> Yatiro, nur Englisch hier (only English here)
[18:46] <darkseid_> xeonid: yes, root is the owner. I moved everything from the old user directory: desktop, pictures, downloads, musics, all the /home directory...
[18:46] <Yatiro> pakai thanks for all but i leave cause i to stupid
[18:46] <Paradisee_> can someone help me?
[18:48] <awktion> darkseid_: here's what I would do:
[18:48] <awktion> i
[18:49] <awktion> i'd make the new user, then look at the files created.
[18:49] <awktion> a few have special permissions other than normal
[18:49] <awktion> in general a tar preserving permissions would do it, then after the user is recreated, mv that dir to user.bak, and untar the old one, rerunning chmod user:user to ensure the new uid/gid get transferred
[18:51] <sam__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/464481/swf-for-ubuntu-14-04
[18:51] <sam__> please answer to my question
[18:52] <awktion> oh yeah
[18:52] <awktion> 2s sam__ you're in luck ;)
[18:52] <awktion> (i think)
[18:53] <darkseid_> awktion: Looks like the unique solution..
[18:53] <sam__> awktion: :) good. you know how I can fix this??
[18:55] <awktion> hm
[18:55] <awktion> i'm thinking a user run httpd daemon accessable only from localhost
[18:56] <Guest47615> cannot see all partitions of drive, when option to choose partition for linux. it only showing single partition of drive.
[18:57] <Guest47615> for installation*
[18:57] <Guest47615> current os win 8
[18:57] <Beldar> Guest47615, is it showing as unallocated?
[18:57] <DrGrov> Good evening to everyone
[18:58] <Beldar> !uefi | Guest47615
[18:58] <Guest47615> i don't rremember exact words. maybe.
[18:58] <awktion> alternatively, this looks doable http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219391&p=13002067#post13002067
[18:58] <DrGrov> I have gotten a hold of a server running Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit server and would love to get some X support on it so I can access a GUI from home to there. Running myself 13.10 64-bit. Just installed Fluxbox on that server.
[18:59] <awktion> DrGrov: you need the desktop kernel + ubuntu-desktop
[18:59] <Beldar> Guest47615, Please use an unusual nick so we can tab complete it when answering you, and use nicks when conversing.
[18:59] <awktion> the rest should be pulled in
[18:59] <Guest47615> thanks. will browse the link. brb.
[18:59] <bekks> On 14.04, there is no desktop/server kernel anymore. There is a generic kernel.
[18:59] <DrGrov> Ok :)
[19:00] <DrGrov> The reason I chose to get Fluxbox for that server is because it has a limited RAM of 512MB.
[19:00] <bekks> DrGrov: you should not run any desktop on a server :)
[19:00] <DrGrov> bekks: But I want to :)
[19:00] <bekks> DrGrov: Then get more RAM :)
[19:00] <DrGrov> Luckily this is just a test server on which I have a 7 days trial before deciding if I want it or not
[19:01] <DrGrov> bekks: But surely I can get fluxbox to run with 512MB?
[19:01] <bekks> DrGrov: The desktop environment isnt the problem. the graphical applications you want to run are.
[19:02] <DrGrov> bekks: Ok, so I can skip the fluxbox or any other GUI as an idea completely or just get more RAM?
[19:02] <DrGrov> But I really do not want to run anything heavy on there.
[19:02] <uskerine> hi, in /etc/networks/interfaces, which is the exact syntax to specify TWO dns nameservers?
[19:02] <bekks> DrGrov: Just skip the idea of a GUI on a server.
[19:02] <uskerine> dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4 ?????
[19:02] <DrGrov> Just a simple yet effective web browser with text, a bit of text editing and such
[19:02] <pakair> DrGrov, you could install vnc on that server
[19:02] <bekks> uskerine: without the ,
[19:02] <uskerine> dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[19:02] <uskerine> ?
[19:03] <bekks> uskerine: yes.
[19:03] <DrGrov> pakair: That being plain vnc or vnc-followed-by-something?
[19:03] <pakair> uskerine, that's google DNS
[19:03] <DrGrov> bekks: So, I can not get anything done without more RAM then it seems? :(
[19:03] <uskerine> i know, i use one of them as backup
[19:03] <uskerine> thanks
[19:03] <pakair> DrGrov, search for the vnc package how it is used. I dont remember the latest version.
[19:03] <bekks> DrGrov: Correct.
[19:04] <DrGrov> pakair: Ok, I just install everything I find then :)
[19:05] <xeno_> So guys, the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/458334 post in the usb install article got me past my problem.
[19:05] <xeno_> Thank you.
[19:05] <xeno_> Nevertheless, one should hope that bug will be fixed soon.
[19:05] <xeno_> What a drag.
[19:05] <pakair> DrGrov, try apt-cache search vnc ... there are plenty, choose one you like
[19:05] <Devrim> Why would you use Google DNS :3
[19:05] <Devrim> Maybe they log the addresses
[19:05] <Devrim> and they are gonna threathen you with it
[19:05] <Devrim> >:)
[19:07] <DrGrov> Now I found something
[19:07] <DrGrov> RDP
[19:09] <semitones> hi :) is there a guide for fixing screen resolution problems? (googles some more also)
[19:09] <DrGrov> xrdp - Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server. That could do the trick perhaps?
[19:09] <jgcampbell300> so i have a windows 7 computer up and running ... I have a hard drive with ubuntu install from a diffrent computer ... I have put the ubuntu hard drive in with the computer running win7 ... i would like to dual boot it .. but im not sure the safest way to do this ... should i change the sata cables makeing the ubuntu hard drive the first bootable then update grub to include the windows drive or do it some other way ?
[19:09] <Beldar> Guest47615, More uefi install info, be sure that is what you have.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[19:09] <semitones> I'm mostly finding out of date info on google / duck duck go
[19:10] <xeonid> semitones:  ok , have u installed drivers for yout gpu ?
[19:10] <Beldar> jgcampbell300, Having the HD with ubuntu first red in the bios and a update-grub once in.
[19:10] <Beldar> read*
[19:10] <semitones> xeonid, I had binary drivers that worked fine, but had an ugly boot screen, and switched to nouveau. Now I have a pretty boot screen, but nouveau doesn't detect my display
[19:10] <jgcampbell300> Beldar, ok thanks
[19:11] <sam__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/464481/swf-for-ubuntu-14-04                        Please answer to my questioin about swf files in 14.04
[19:11] <Beldar> jgcampbell300, No problem, I'm not up on how HD's are attached is all, all mine are just laptops that plugin HD.
[19:11] <semitones> should I report a bug in nouveau?
[19:11] <xeonid> semitones:  what is your display resolution ?
[19:11] <jgcampbell300> Beldar, one more thing ... can you move ubuntu build between diffrent builds of computers ... like moveing from dell o755 to something compleatly diffrent like hp something like 5700
[19:12] <Guest47615> Beldar | yeah, i cannot boot from cd/dvd or usb when it's set to uefi.
[19:12] <Beldar> jgcampbell300, We will see huh, probably will not be a problem, other than graphic drivers maybe.
[19:12] <semitones> xeonid, it should be 1440x900, but now it is 640x480
[19:12] <jgcampbell300> cool thanks much im out to test ... thanks again
[19:13] <Guest47615> be right back.
[19:13] <xeonid> semitones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/189246/how-set-my-monitor-resolution
[19:13] <Beldar> Guest47615, So the general consensus is to resize windows in windows with it's partitioner leaving a unallocated for ubuntu. Also imaging/cloning W8 off the HD to be fully prepared for anything.
[19:14] <semitones> xeonid, thanks! I found something similar to this, but with no explanantion -- this one is explaining better, so I'll try it and see how it goes
[19:14] <DrGrov> Argh, I give up
[19:15] <DrGrov> bekks: You were right, as always. It is too tedious to fiddle around with trying  to get a GUI on this server :)
[19:15] <bekks> DrGrov: ;)
[19:16] <DrGrov> bekks: But I will be back later and check up and see what is going on. I will now completely restart the whole server. It is already a mess :)
[19:18] <ridethespiral> Wow 14.04 actual doesn't run my discreet gpu at full throttle so I have to disable it (this gpu is fried :( ) I feel good about this install so far
[19:20] <ridethespiral> Is swap really necessary with 4gb ram?
[19:21] <OerHeks> no, unless you want advanced functions as sleep/hybernate, one of those 2 need a swap to save memory
[19:21] <vlad_starkov> Question: Could someone recommend me good DNS hosting?
[19:22] <OerHeks> vlad_starkov, that is outside the scope of this ubuntu support channel
[19:22] <hid> ridethespiral 1 Gb max
[19:23] <vlad_starkov> OerHeks: Ok I apologies
[19:23] <bekks> ridethespiral: if you want to use hibernation, you need as much swap as RAM.
[19:23] <ridethespiral> Thanks, I'll include swap then
[19:23] <_spm_Draget> I am looking for the image that allows 'expert install' with choosing the packages manually to install.
[19:24] <_spm_Draget> Seems like I am unable to find it for 14.04
[19:24] <_spm_Draget> Any hints?
[19:24] <ezakimak> trying to get X to use s3virge drivers. they are installed, and Xorg.0.log shows it looking for it, but failing to find/load the s3virge module. what's next?
[19:24] <daftykins> !alternate | _spm_Draget
[19:24] <Beldar> _spm_Draget, The mini net install.
[19:25] <kostkon> !mini
[19:25] <theadmin> _spm_Draget: The netinstall CD? Here you go: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04/
[19:25] <_spm_Draget> Beldar: The mini cd will als oinstlal the graphical installer, or?
[19:25] <Paradisee_> how can i solve this? http://postimg.org/image/z6igt4ls9
[19:25] <Beldar> _spm_Draget, The mini installs the base, you do the rest.
[19:25] <theadmin> _spm_Draget: No, the installer is command-line, but it's pretty simple
[19:25] <_spm_Draget> Ah okay, thanks. I'll try.
[19:28] <Flannel> _spm_Draget: the mini CD is the same installer as the alternate CD, it just doesn't include any packages on the CD itself
[19:28] <Beldar> Paradisee_, YOU getting to the desktop?
[19:28] <Paradisee_> Beldar: nope
[19:29] <Beldar> Paradisee_, This a fresh install, what leads up to this predicament?
[19:30] <tomodachi> hi , i have a script i want to launch from a  laucher icon , but it fails
[19:30] <tomodachi> i think its because the script needs to be run from the folder that its in
[19:30] <Paradisee_> Beldar: what you mean
[19:30] <tomodachi> can i add some path or something to myapplication.desktop icons?
[19:31] <Beldar> Paradisee_, I'm not sure I can explain any better. A picture means nothing without some background leading to it.
[19:31] <theadmin> tomodachi: Sure, just like that: Path=/absolute/path/to/your/folder
[19:31] <Paradisee_> i was just installing ubuntu, and i get this
[19:31] <Paradisee_> there's nothing more to explain
[19:32] <Beldar> Paradisee_, Ah, however that is important info, do you understand. This same thing can be caused by a handful of variables.
[19:32] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Paradisee_ try this boot
[19:32] <Paradisee_> i didnt do nothing special
 i didnt do nothing special  We don't know that unless you tell us.
[19:33] <Paradisee_> it return me to the terminal
[19:33] <Paradisee_> and i cant even run the de
[19:33] <tomodachi> theadmin: ah great thanx
[19:36] <AndChat169904> Ciao
[19:38] <daftykins> !it | AndChat169904
[19:39] <Jack_Laiwas> Привет)
[19:39] <theadmin> !ru | Jack_Laiwas
[19:40] <AndChat169904> Hello, someone can halp me about a problem with the last version of ubuntu?
[19:41] <Beldar> AndChat169904, Describe the release and problem to the channel.
[19:42] <ezakimak> anyone know how to make X see/find/load s3virge driver?
[19:44] <semitones> Hi! I used system settings to switch to the nouveau driver, and while it says I'm using nouveau now, It actually left some blacklists in modprobe.d, and I'm really using VESA. Is that a bug I can report somewhere?
[19:44] <ezakimak> X -configure generates sig11
[19:46] <ridethespiral> I just got 14.04 installed and disabled my fried discreet gpu using an acpi_call module (which I compile for each new kernel, blah) but I'm getting an error on start-up that I never did with 12.04. See picture  http://tinyurl.com/mwdsch6
[19:47] <ridethespiral> Oh wait I think I fixed that before by installing the drivers for the radeon. let me try that
[19:49] <Beldar> ridethespiral, You need a nick ridethe-edge
[19:50] <xeno_> Anybody out there able to tell me the command in parted to see the range of sectors?
[19:50] <xeno_> I see there are at least 1000, and apparently less than 8000, but I should be able to see the highest partition, RIGHT?
[19:50] <IkilledUBUNTU>  so i just killed my pc somehow. i dont even know what i did since i am noob. can i  ask some questions here?
[19:51] <conall> IkilledUBUNTU:ask away
[19:51] <Beldar> IkilledUBUNTU, This is ubuntu support, it does take some details, be prepared. ;)
[19:51] <AndChat169904> I have a freeze issue
[19:51] <ridethespiral> Lmao Beldar
[19:51] <ridethespiral> Lets see if this worked after a restart
[19:52] <Beldar> AndChat169904, When?
[19:52] <AndChat169904> Random
[19:52] <AndChat169904> But frequently
[19:53] <Beldar> AndChat169904, Be sure to use the nick of who you respond to. How much ram do you have?
[19:53] <Beldar> what release and desktop as well AndChat169904
[19:54] <IkilledUBUNTU> so i have 12.04 with gnome. Everything was fine. I installed today a VNC program so i can connect to a remote desktop. Everything cool. Then after reboot i couldnt login except as guest.  After  some searching i played with gdm  and i  manage to log in in Unity. Then by trying to fix gnome i somehow killed it. i purge it in order to reinstall it only to see i cant cause my source.list has problems. Anyway i was wondering, can 
[19:54] <AndChat169904> Belar all ubuntu based distroes 14.04, i have 4 gb of ram
[19:54] <Guest98342> hello
[19:55] <zmi> hi guys i have problem ith network
[19:55] <Beldar> AndChat169904, Have you run top or htop to see if you are just swapping, due to a app using the ram, or just to much running?
[19:56] <semitones> what's the name of the "system settings" application?
[19:56] <AndChat169904> Belar it did not happen when i use an application in particular
[19:57] <Beldar> AndChat169904, Do you understand my refrence to swapping, and using top or htop?
[19:57] <Beldar> reference*
[19:58] <AndChat169904> Belar, Yes but I think i have enougth ram
[19:58] <Beldar> AndChat169904, Sure 4 gigs is enough, however this is a basic check, and a fair consideration, lets not get bogged down by an easy check.
[19:59] <angels> hi guys i cant connection to internet no wifi no cable no nothing
[19:59] <bekks> angels: you are connected to the internet currently.
[19:59] <h1r3> i have created a samba share, given all permissions needes and still i cannot access it from a remote computer... the machine is recognized, even the shared folder... however i am not able to access it... the reason: "The specified location is not mounted"... can somebody help me?
[20:00] <Beldar> AndChat169904, I have a conky on the de to watch this stuff myself, and have the swappiness set rather low.
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> angels: what wifi chip are you using?
[20:00] <angels> no i use other OS but since ubuntu i cant do it
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> !away > vifino|away
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> angels: doesnt answer my question....
[20:00] <ezakimak> E: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
[20:00] <AndChat169904> Bwlar thank you i'll try
[20:00] <ezakimak> where can I find it?
[20:00] <angels> i dont know what i use
[20:01] <angels> im new in ubuntu
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> angels: sudo lshw -C network ,will tell you
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> !find s3
[20:01] <vifino> ActionParsnip: what?
[20:01] <coolstar> how can I install Ubuntu 14.04?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> !find s3virge
[20:01] <coolstar> I'm currently on Ubuntu 13.04
[20:02] <ezakimak> okay, so how do I get the driver for it?
[20:02] <M0DCM-Dave> Coolstar either a bootable USB or DVD
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> coolstar: you will need to upgrade to 13.10 then to 14.04
[20:02] <coolstar> M0DCM-Dave: I don't want to lose my data though :(
[20:02] <angels> but then i have to off this os , in this computer i have two OS ubunt and debian
[20:02] <Beldar> !eol | coolstar look for upgrade info
[20:02] <coolstar> ActionParsnip: how do I do that?
[20:02] <M0DCM-Dave> or there
[20:02] <M0DCM-Dave> is that way :-)
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> coolstar: or a clean install of 14.04 you can then use data backups to restore your user data
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> vifino: when you afk, just go. You dont need to change your nick.
[20:03] <vifino> ActionParsnip: Its default for my client.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> vifino: can you please disable it
[20:03] <vifino> And Many people want me to.
[20:03] <vifino> ...
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> vifino: it spams the channel. Why do you think that factoid exists....
[20:04] <Beldar> angels, YOU have no wifi or ethernet, is this correct?
[20:05] <angels> yes correct but when i use ubuntu i have debian and ubuntu here
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> angels: run the command I gave, it will tell us the wifi chip.
[20:05] <ezakimak> how can I install the s3virge in trusty?
[20:05] <coolstar> oh wow software update just offered me to update to 13.10
[20:05] <coolstar> alright, let's see if that works
[20:06] <Beldar> angels, use nicks here when answering, do you know the ethernet and wifi hardware? It will show if you run 'lspci' in the terminal in ubuntu.
[20:06] <angels> Hardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.16
[20:06] <angels> usage: lshw [-format] [-options ...]
[20:06] <angels>        lshw -version
[20:06] <angels> 	-version        print program version (B.02.16)
[20:06] <angels> format can be
[20:06] <angels> 	-html           output hardware tree as HTML
[20:06] <unopaste> angels you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:07] <Beldar> angels, pastebin the info from running lspci
[20:07] <Aeterne> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Change_the_Default_Session  Excuse me, but is this the method I should use if I want to set i3wm as window manager?
[20:08] <Armag3dd0n1> is there a way to reset all ubuntu apps and settings?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-s3
[20:08] <Beldar> Armag3dd0n1, not in one fell swoop.
[20:08] <Armag3dd0n1> swoop?
[20:08] <Armag3dd0n1> so basically need a resinstall?
[20:08] <Beldar> Armag3dd0n1, act, incident, one command
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: you can delete all hidden files and folders in home
[20:09] <Beldar> heh except that one
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: then log in, you will get default settings for apps
[20:09] <ezakimak> ActionParsnip, what is that telling me?
[20:09] <Armag3dd0n1> really?
[20:09] <daftykins> you could just create a new user
[20:09] <Armag3dd0n1> what about the start, will everything be there?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> angels: what did you run to make that output?
[20:09] <angels> can you speak spanish
[20:09] <daftykins> angels: not in here no
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: gives packages you can install. I believe the s3 driver is installed by default
[20:10] <ezakimak> all I know is that xserver-org-video-s3 doesn't support the card, the package my card needs is xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> angels: try #ubuntu-es
[20:10] <ezakimak> that's according to apt-cache show output
[20:10] <daftykins> ezakimak: clearly you're joking, such an old card is a waste of time and effort
[20:11] <trism> Aeterne: you shouldn't need to do that, if you are using unity-greeter just click the ubuntu icon next to your name and select a different session, it will remember
[20:11] <ezakimak> well, i'm on the phone w/my dad, he's installing this machine, I"m logged in remotely trying to get his X working for him, and that's the card he put ini t
[20:11] <daftykins> the S3 Virge had 2MB RAM and didn't support higher than 800x600 in colour
[20:11] <Aeterne> Thank you, trism. I will try that!
[20:11] <ezakimak> the card he has does
[20:11] <daftykins> ezakimak: ubuntu is not going to work on that old hardware. perhaps you have the model wrong
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/xserver-xorg-video-s3
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: the s3 package runs s3virge too
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: if you run: sudo lshw -C display ,what driver module is loaded?
[20:13] <ezakimak> then why does apt-cache show say it doesn't?
[20:13] <ezakimak> and there is no s3virge module installed, only s3
[20:13] <ezakimak> X tries to find s3virge module and fails
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: what driver module is loaded for the display?
[20:14] <Aeterne> Oh god, Ubuntu makes it *this* effortless? That's so cool, and I say that as an Arch user. :P
[20:14] <ezakimak> when he tried it, it was in vga mode--1024x768
[20:15] <ezakimak> the X log shows it looking for s3virge and failing
[20:16] <pac1> In Ubuntu 14.04, when I set the microphone to use Rear Microphone Built in Audio, and close the dialog, when I return, the audio is reset to Digital input s/Pdif.  Is there a way to make the mirophone stay set correctly?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Aeterne: Arch is dead easy to install and use.
[20:17] <Beldar> It's linux, only slight differences in the end
[20:17] <ezakimak> it's got i915 loaded
[20:18] <Beldar> err the kernel is anyway
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: isnt that for Intel GPUs?
[20:18] <ezakimak> but the builtin intel video doesn't work anymore, thus he put in the discrete card
[20:22] <skinux> Is there a way to search filesystem for all files of certain type (e.g. shell, executable)?
[20:22] <ezakimak> so is there any way to get the s3virge driver installed?
[20:22] <ezakimak> skinux, find
[20:22] <skinux> AFAIK that only searches for specific text within files
[20:22] <ezakimak> no, it does not.
[20:23] <drfoo> anyone know how I can connect to remote desktop from osx to ubuntu 14 -- ?
[20:23] <skinux> Can you give me an example for searching for all shell files?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Skinux: sudo updatedb; locate searchword
[20:25] <ezakimak> find / -iname '*.sh'
[20:25] <Ademan> skinux: find -name '*.sh'
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Drfoo: what are you wanting to do in Ubuntu using remote desktop? There may be a sleeker solution
[20:25] <Ademan> er, mine is only under the current directory, ezakimak is right to search the whole computer
[20:25] <Ademan> also it's worth mentioning .sh isn't the only shell extension...
[20:25] <Armadillos> skinux: Another way to do it is find / | grep ".sh"
[20:26] <skinux> Ademan: Yes, that's simple. I mean for shell files that do not have .sh extension
[20:26] <Ademan> skinux: grep the first line for the shebang you want?
[20:26] <trism> drfoo: you are probably hitting bug 1281250
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: or use the file command on each file to find them
[20:27] <Ademan> ActionParsnip: that's a far better idea, good point
[20:27] <ezakimak> or find / -executable
[20:28] <Ademan> ezakimak: that'll give you false positives of binary executables won't it?
[20:28] <Ademan> might be a good optimization though
[20:28] <ezakimak> depends what you are looking for
[20:28] <bekks> ezakimak: Which will find a) all executables, not just bash scripts and b) not all scripts are executable
[20:28] <ezakimak> find / -executable -a -iname '*.sh'
[20:28] <ezakimak> find / -executable -o -iname '*.sh'
[20:29] <bekks> ezakimak: using .sh as file extension for scripts is a bad habit.
[20:29] <Ademan> skinux: what are you trying to do exactly?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: in Linux the file extension is moot. Shell scripts dont have to have an extension
[20:29] <ezakimak> i know that.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: so why look for *.sh when it could miss files which are shell scripts without the extension
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> ezakimak: it makes no sense
[20:30] <ezakimak> you could try something like find / -exec 'head -n 1 {}\;' | grep '#/bin/bash'
[20:30] <Ademan> it's worth mentioning that `file $f` reports different things depending on if it's shebang line names /bin/bash or /bin/sh
[20:30] <ezakimak> file may be the better test
[20:30] <bekks> find, exec, head, grep - you will win the competition for one of the slowest solutions :)
[20:30] <ezakimak> find / -exec 'find {}\;' | grep -i 'script'
[20:31] <Ademan> hrm, it reports the same mime type with --mime-type though
[20:31] <ezakimak> or 'ascii text'
[20:31] <xeno_> It would be so good if programmers could fix these things where you spend 99% of your time on the point in your install where it says 99% done.
[20:31] <xeonid> ezakimak: open every file read first line and check if #!/bin/sh
[20:31] <Ademan> text/x-shellscript for both /bin/bash and /bin/sh
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> bekks: shouldnt be too slow on even old ish hardware
[20:31] <xeonid> but it take more cpu time
[20:31] <ezakimak> anywhoo, does anyone know how to install s3virge driver on trusty?
[20:31] <_spm_Draget> Which is the default grub package for 14.04? 'grub' or 'grub2'?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> xeonid: in an age of quad core, im sure we have a few spare cycles
[20:32] <bekks> _spm_Draget: grub2
[20:32] <_spm_Draget> And the netinstaller was what I was looking for - with the expert commandline mode.
[20:32] <_spm_Draget> Thanks
[20:32] <xeno_> The present program in question being Startup disk creator.
[20:32] <Ademan> ActionParsnip: I dunno, I think it's likely I/O bound not CPU bound, reading a lot from disk
[20:32] <xeonid> ActionParsnip: but you must open every existing file
[20:32] <xeonid> ActionParsnip: you cen only exclude the kernel images /boot  and vmlinuz
[20:32] <xeonid> can*
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> xeonid: true but if you want accurate result you gotta take the hit
[20:32] <Ademan> anyone in here used ftrace before?
[20:34] <xeonid> ActionParsnip: the better way is to keep all your shell scripts in one directory
[20:34] <ezakimak> how do I install a package from lucid in trusty?
[20:34] <Ademan> xeonid: well we actually have nfi what skinux is actually trying to accomplish...
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> xeonid: indeed. Hindsight is a wonderful thing
[20:35] <bekks> ezakimak: you dont. It might break your system.
[20:35] <ezakimak> okay, so back to my original question. how do  Iget s3virge driver in trusty?
[20:35] <Ademan> ezakimak: xorg-edgers maybe?
[20:36] <skinux> What I want to be able to do is simply detect the type of files (which don't have extensions) without trying to open each in a text editor.
[20:36] <ezakimak> ok, willing to try, how do I do that?
[20:36] <Ademan> skinux: the "file" command almost certainly does what you want
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> skinux: file will do that
[20:37] <xeonid> skinux: so try to write a script which exclude binary files , and only open every file without extension  and check for first line
[20:37] <Ademan> skinux: I ran "file bar" and it outputs this: bar: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> skinux: eg. file ~/.bashrc
[20:37] <Ademan> where bar is indeed a bash script that I wrote
[20:39] <bekks> ezakimak: Looks like your hardware is discontinued. Even xorg-edgers do not provide drivers anymore: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package_metas?exact_match=1&q=xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
[20:39] <skinux> Thanks. File command does fine, especially combined with grep
[20:39] <ezakimak> bekks, so no support for s3virge in trusty at all?
[20:40] <bekks> ezakimak: Exactly.
[20:40] <ezakimak> bummer
[20:40] <Ademan> ezakimak: if you're very brave you might try building it yourself, surely the code is around
[20:40] <Ademan> not sure if you need a kernel module AND xorg module, probably do
[20:40] <bekks> ezakimak: that hardware is more than a decade old - and it was low end even when it was current.
[20:42] <red45923> Hi all, on ubuntu, got 50 images in a folder, if there is a nice tool to quickly put them all into an index.html file I would be very :)
[20:42] <ezakimak> okay, that's the kind of answer I needed, thanks
[20:43] <xeonid> red45923: PHP :>
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> red45923: ls *.jpg > ./filelist.txt
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> red45923: for example
[20:44] <red45923> will try ActionParsnip suggestion first
[20:44] <Wu117> I am trying to teach myself a little bit about networking and I have a question to "ports". What if I wanted to forward a port within a machine? I always read about ssh forwarding with 2 machines, but how could I make that all port y traffic on a server e.g. will be handled by a service that listens on port x?
[20:44] <Ademan> red45923: are you looking to have previews? or just a list?
[20:45] <xeonid> red45923: you want only to put filenames or img
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Wu117: you'd need a different port for each system on the router.
[20:45] <red45923> i want to stick em in an html page, preferably not manually, img src="pic.jpg' etc
[20:46] <xeonid> i think that one or two loops  will do this
[20:46] <Ademan> red45923: so you want people to see the images?
[20:46] <Ademan> in the html file?
[20:46] <red45923> yes
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Wu117: if your router will only forward to the same port number on the internal system, you can change the SSH port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:46] <Ademan> red45923: I'd google "static image gallery generator"
[20:46] <c00lbard> Wu117: You want to forward from one port to another on local machine?
[20:47] <Ademan> red45923: one of the top google results for that was "igal2" which is in the repositories, you might try that out
[20:47] <Wu117> c00lbard: I want to forward incomming traffic on port 12345 to a service that listens on port 54321 on the same machine.
[20:47] <Ademan> red45923: http://igal.trexler.at/igal2-sample/ this is a sample of what it can create apparently
[20:48] <Ademan> so has anyone used ftrace?
[20:48] <red45923> thanks, gonna try ActionParsnip approach + vim first, see how much regexp i have forgot
[20:48] <c00lbard> Wu117: You could checkout ipvsadm and iptables
[20:48] <Wu117> c00lbard: I don't know if I'm writing it too complex. Let's say for whatever reason a service doesn't run on the port I used before, but I told everybody that port, can I forward all traffic that comes to the old port?
[20:49] <hyprvx> Hello, everybody!
[20:49] <Wu117> c00lbard: so this a thing what can be done? :)
[20:50] <hyprvx> How good is TV Tuner support in Ubuntu 14.04? I have an old computer hooked up to a TV, and I have an old TV tuner card I want to hook up for backing up VHS tapes
[20:50] <bekks> hyprvx: Depends on the chipset of that tuner card.
[20:51] <hyprvx> Is there a list of chipsets I can look up in, bekks?
[20:51] <hyprvx> (or just compatible cards)
[20:51] <bekks> hyprvx: You need to know the chipset you have.
[20:52] <day> is it possible to watch a movie across multiple displays with bezel correction?
[20:52] <hyprvx> bekks: Conexant Fusion 878A
[20:52] <c00lbard> Wu117: Yes, iptables can be used to create a forward rule
[20:52] <c00lbard> Wu117: Or prerouting rule
[20:52] <Wu117> c00lbard: thanks! I will search for it! :)
[20:53] <bekks> hyprvx: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Conexant_Fusion_878A
[20:53] <c00lbard> Wu117: Something like this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport $srcPortNumber -j REDIRECT --to-port $dstPortNumbe
[20:53] <red45923> done it, i made it in vim from starting with : ls *.jpg > ./filelist.txt plus some search/replace, php would have done it too i'm sure as well as igal i am sure, thanks all
[20:54] <Wu117> c00lbard: oh, okay. I think I have some good keywords with iptables and prerouting now. Thank you!
[20:54] <c00lbard> Wu117: No problem :)
[20:55] <hyprvx> bekks: would the command just be pretty much "sudo apt-get install bttv"?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> !info bttv
[20:56] <bekks> hyprvx: No.
[20:56] <bobin__> HI everyone. New to user to ubuntu, and wondering if someone can help me get java to work? With best regards bobin
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> bobin__: do you mean the web plugin?
[20:57] <bekks> !java | bobin__
[20:57] <hyprvx> where would I acquire the bttv package?
[20:57] <bekks> hyprvx: Why do you want that package?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> bobin__: webupd8 has a handy java ppa for Oracle Java
[20:58] <bobin__> ActionParsnip: No, to be more specifik JAVA_HOME
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> bobin__: i believe the PPA sets that postinst
[20:59] <hyprvx> That's the driver package for Fusion 878A chipset tuner cards
[20:59] <apb1963> I updated knotes, it said to migrate, now I have no notes.  How can I get my notes back?  ubuntu 12.04
[21:00] <bekks> hyprvx: A package with that name never existed in Ubuntu at all: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bttv&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[21:00] <bekks> hyprvx: So, as can be seen, your assumption is wrong.
[21:01] <bobin__> ActionParsnip: Have googled and try many things i have open jdk installed but when i type ./javafile i get java_home not set
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> bobin__: what is the output of: java -version
[21:02] <hyprvx> alright, how do I obtain/install a driver module? or is this in the linux base? http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Bttv
[21:02] <bekks> hyprvx: You have to read that article, too.
[21:02] <bobin> java version "1.7.0_55"
[21:02] <bobin> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.7) (7u55-2.4.7-1ubuntu1~0.13.10.1)
[21:02] <bobin> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.51-b03, mixed mode)
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> hyprvx: if you run: dmesg | grep -i bttv ,do you see the module detected etc
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> bobin: thats the open java.
[21:03] <bekks> ActionParsnip: No. Its the JDK 7 from Oracle.
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> bobin: ok, run: java ./javafile ,does it run
[21:03] <bekks> ActionParsnip: 1.7.0_55
[21:03] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Isnt it?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> bekks: openjdk isnt Oracle dude
[21:04] <nathaneltitane> hello huys
[21:04] <nathaneltitane> guys*
[21:04] <nathaneltitane> having a problem with wine on ubuntu 14.04 64
[21:05] <bobin> ActionParsnip: getting this Error: Could not find or load main class
[21:05] <nathaneltitane> i'm trying to run a rendering engine and i am getting a GLU32.dll load error
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> bobin: id try Oracle java. May help
[21:05] <xeonid> anyone can recommend IDE for PHP with support control version support ?
[21:05] <nathaneltitane> anyone have a clue on how to solve it? there is no i386 install candidate for the 32 bit nvidia libs i need
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> nathaneltitane: is this in Wine?
[21:05] <nathaneltitane> yes
[21:06] <bekks> xeonid: eclipse
[21:06] <xeonid> bekks: any other ?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> nathaneltitane: did you check the wine appdb for compatibility?
[21:06] <bekks> xeonid: Thats my only recommendation.
[21:06] <xeonid> bekks: thanks
[21:08] <bobin> ActionParsnip: ok. The program Flashtool I'm trying to run says i needs Java version must be 1.6 or 1.7, How will i found the right version, I have googled it and what i found are installed so
[21:09] <metalbrick> my  Ubuntu Frozen every time when Memory usage over 80%
[21:09] <daftykins> metalbrick: memtest
[21:10] <metalbrick> could u be more specific ?
[21:10] <metalbrick> thx
[21:10] <InFierno> run memtest (its an option on boot,m or dl memtest x86)
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> bobin: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[21:10] <alexherbo2> Hi
[21:11] <bobin> ActionParsnip: thanks
[21:11] <alexherbo2> How enable notification on sound change ?
[21:11] <nathaneltitane> ActionParsnip: well that is the least bit of an error as i get, if i switch to the 64 bit version of that package, it gives me a whooooooooooooooole lot more crap
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> metalbrick: hold SHIFT at boot, select Memtest86+
[21:11] <nathaneltitane> ActionParsnip: it's a mtter of getting the glu32.dll to load
[21:11] <metalbrick> that will do all the job?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> nathaneltitane: did you check the wine appdb?
[21:12] <metalbrick> just wait for the memtest  finished?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> metalbrick: if you see red, some or all of the RAM is bad
[21:12] <nathaneltitane> does not exist in it
[21:13] <bonk3rzz> anyone else have probs with netflix???
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> nathaneltitane: ah then you are in uncharted waters. The guys in #winehq may be able to help
[21:13] <nathaneltitane> ActionParsnip: the window version I am trying to run has a linux native build, but i need to use the windows version as a renderer for another windows only app
[21:13] <metalbrick> I post a thread on askubuntu
[21:13] <metalbrick> http://askubuntu.com/questions/464529/ubuntu-frozen-every-time-when-memory-usage-over-80
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> bonk3rzz: it doesnt work and the PPA is a seriously hacked version of winw to make Netflix work
[21:14] <__raven_> 14.04 lts: networking problems similar to that: http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-internet-problem-in-ubuntu-14-04-after-upgrading-from-12-04-450806.html "waiting for network configuration" during boot - known solutions?
[21:15] <metalbrick> if this is a issue with bad RAM, why always when the usage reach 80%
[21:15] <betty_> kwheezy does not boot graphically later I had changed an driver option. It's log is in tty1. startx does not works, shoes: screen not found. Is there a simple (or not) way to fix it?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> metalbrick: if there are RAM errors it will cause issues. You need to make sure its ok
[21:15] <metalbrick> OK
[21:15] <metalbrick> I'll do that first
[21:16] <bonk3rzz> i have had it workin via ppa tons of times but after frest install today its not working
[21:16] <betty_> kwheezy does not boot graphically later I had changed an driver option. It's log is in tty1. startx does not works, shoes: screen not found. Is there a simple (or not) way to fix it?
[21:17] <bonk3rzz> yesterday it worked fine
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> bonk3rzz: contact the PPA maintainer to report the issue
[21:17] <bonk3rzz> lame
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> bonk3rzz: if netflix supported linux we wouldnt have the issue
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> bonk3rzz: so yes, netflix is lame
[21:18] <bonk3rzz> lol
[21:18] <bobin> ActionParsnip: Sorry the say I did not work
[21:18] <bonk3rzz> netflix rox windows is lame
[21:19] <OerHeks> bonk3rzz, confirmed, netflix changed something, just wait and see
[21:19] <MikeRL> Well, that was fun being in pain and then puking from dental work for a week. Glad I'm better now. I still need help finding a way to report whatever is causing my boot issues.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> bonk3rzz: until they support linux you'll probably have issues. Weirdly though they are happy to support Android...
[21:19] <MikeRL> A lot of the times I boot into Ubuntu 14.04, the keyboard doesn't work at all. LEDs are all lit up, though.
[21:19] <bonk3rzz> witch is linux
[21:20] <MikeRL> And other times, it just hangs on bootup and never completes.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> bonk3rzz: indeed
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: tried a different usb port?
[21:20] <MikeRL> By the way, I do have the splash disabled, so I get all the useful boot information.
[21:20] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip: Why USB port?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: is it not a usb keyboard?
[21:20] <MikeRL> It's not a USB keyboard. It's a laptop.
[21:21] <MikeRL> An HP DV&-4285dx.
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: you never said that it was a laptop....
[21:21] <MikeRL> Should have. Sorry.
[21:21] <bonk3rzz> btw how do you do the how at a person in hexchat like you did "bonk3rzz : indeed
[21:21] <bekks> !tab | bonk3rzz
[21:21] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip: I'll open a dailogue window with you.
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> bonk3rzz: tab conplete nicks. It highlights them for you too :-)
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: have you tested your RAM?
[21:23] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, as soon as I done a fresh install of 14.04 I got issues.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: can you boot liveCD ok?
[21:23] <MikeRL> Does tabbing (Hexchat automatically uses a comma afterwards) work to highlight people, or must I use a colon?
[21:24] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, is this message highlighted?
[21:24] <bonk3rzz> well thx anyway
[21:24] <__raven_> 14.04 lts: networking problems similar to that: http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-internet-problem-in-ubuntu-14-04-after-upgrading-from-12-04-450806.html "waiting for network configuration" during boot - known solutions?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: yes
[21:24] <bekks> MikeRL: mentioning the name of a person is called "a hilight".
[21:24] <betty_> kwheezy does not boot graphically later I had changed a driver option. It's log is in tty1. startx does not works, shows: screen not found. Is there a simple (or not) way to fix it?
[21:24] <MikeRL> Good. So I see I don't have to use a colon.
[21:25] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, I have tried a LiveCD. Could try one multiple times and see the boot success rate.
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> __raven: have you modified /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:25] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, but I have boot information shown, no splash. Anything I can upload?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: could use imageshack etc if you take a picture with a camera
[21:26] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, I've had this issue for many weeks, and I'd like to get a bug report out of it if I cannot fix it. Thanks for your help, but multiple users from this and other Linux-related IRC channels have tried to no avail to resolve my issues with booting.
[21:26] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, How about any logs? Those may be better?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: is the hdd ok?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: could get the boot logs from the system in livecd
[21:27] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, Don't know 100%. Any way I can find out from the boot logs>
[21:27] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, Oops. Not good grammar on my end today.
[21:27] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, how would I get those logs?
[21:27] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, I'll write it down.
[21:28] <betty_> c'mon..
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> MikeRL: mount the partition and look in var/log
[21:28] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, Can I do that while in my install? It boots some of the time.
[21:29] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, I'm typing from it now.
[21:29] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, I can also check the hardware later if needed.
[21:29] <k1l> betty_: for debian ask in #debian :)
[21:30] <betty_> k1l: Ok..
[21:30] <MikeRL> ActionParsnip, I can boot up normally - some of the time. Now I'm in Ubuntu 14.04, and I can easily pull up logs from there. Which ones are of interest?
[21:32] <kaste> Hello folks I am looking for a kind soul with a working texlive with biber on ubuntu who can verify for me that this segfaults for them as well tex file http://pastebin.com/99KRgsND bib  http://pastebin.com/KX7Am17B
[21:33] <SigmaOfPop> I am looking for an application that would prevent me from accessing certain applications over a pre-set time period.
[21:33] <Tin_man> one thing i've learned about linux, any version.. All good, but once you find one that fits, don't fiddle with it..
[21:34] <Tin_man> unless your in to "C" or such
[21:37] <bobin> Hi folks. Can someone help me with setting Java_home? I have googled and googled and cant get it to work
[21:37] <randomjerk> MacBookPro6,1 - theres no wiki, which is the better one to go with
[21:38] <MikeRL> OK, so my issue remains.
[21:38] <daftykins> randomjerk: better one what?
[21:38] <randomjerk> wiki page to ffollow, dude
[21:38] <daftykins> for what?
[21:38] <MikeRL> The keyboard doesn't work at all half the time when I boot up. Using a laptop with 14.04. LEDs are all lit up, though.
[21:39] <MikeRL> Apparently I can find logs in /var/log. Which ones would be of interest?
[21:39] <ridethespiral> I broke my install :/ damnit lol
[21:39] <randomjerk> the installs not in the bootloader when i power it on
[21:41] <daftykins> randomjerk: use rEFIt or something
[21:41] <randomjerk> ...
[21:41] <ridethespiral> How can I uninstall fglrx from recovery?
[21:41] <randomjerk> just ttell me which M to RTF
[21:41] <daftykins> randomjerk: i'm not looking for a guide for you.
[21:41] <MikeRL> Need help. Laptop is practically unusable, and I have to reboot it more than half the time I boot it up because booting either doesn't complete, or the keyboard doesn't work at all.
[21:41] <UsQUE> whats the difference between firewalld and ufs? I heared ufw don't allow zoning?
[21:41] <daftykins> ridethespiral: sudo apt-get remove fglrx*
[21:42] <xeno_> Looks like fvwm-crystal does nothing on Ubuntu server.
[21:42] <daftykins> ridethespiral: but you'll have to have remounted your / as read/write before you can do that
[21:42] <ubuntu-studio> .
[21:42] <randomjerk> daftykins: page says pick your model, model not there... you'll have to excuse me for asking which one will be more helpful.
[21:42] <_blk> j #autotools
[21:42] <ridethespiral> OK I'll look up the command
[21:43]  * randomjerk looks up rEFIt
[21:43] <randomjerk> lol - not maintained.
[21:46] <SigmaOfPop> I am looking for an application that would prevent me from accessing certain applications over a pre-set time period.
[21:46] <ridethespiral> Sweet I can get to the desktop now
[21:46] <randomjerk> SigmaOfPop: like an anti-drunk-dialing thing?
[21:46] <viper3905gt1> Bashing- u on?
[21:47] <SigmaOfPop> well. more like a "Steam games are destroying my ability to do homework" sort of thing
[21:47] <randomjerk> that would be the second guess.
[21:47] <randomjerk> I normally create a second user for that stuff
[21:48] <randomjerk> keep the "restricted content" in just that users' homedir
[21:49] <SigmaOfPop> well. this is my own productivity
[21:49] <ridethespiral> so fglrx fixes the error I get on boot, but I can't get past the ubuntu splash screen... http://tinyurl.com/mwdsch6
[21:49] <SunkSullen> Going through hell trying to make grub my bootloader.
[21:49] <__raven> how to suggest if xubuntu is able to install to this or similar devices in case of secboot and boot- or flash process? "Aspire Switch 10"
[21:49] <ridethespiral> Uninstall fglrx and I can get to desktop after that error..
[21:49] <SunkSullen> I have Ubuntu installed
[21:50] <randomjerk> SigmaOfPop: right - you can still have 2 users on the machine that are you...
[21:50] <SunkSullen> but I can't seem to get it to boot withouth using boot menu
[21:50] <SunkSullen> Any ideas?
[21:50] <SigmaOfPop> Yeah, but everything is in my own user system, and it would be too easy to switch over.
[21:50] <SigmaOfPop> I am looking, in essence, for a free linux version of netnanny
[21:51] <randomjerk> i'm sure there's a sub-reddit about being motivated to do homework, but suggesting reddit never helped anyone
[21:52] <SunkSullen> SigmaOfPop check out elemetary
[21:52] <_blk> SigmaOfPop, http://askubuntu.com/a/70277
[21:52] <SunkSullen> SigmaOfPop http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=elementary
[21:53] <SigmaOfPop> Thanks blk
[21:53] <SigmaOfPop> because quite honestly
[21:53] <SigmaOfPop> I don't want to have to install yet another distro just for productivity
[21:54] <MohammadAG> Meh, came back to my PC after a 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade and grub's on its prompt
[21:54] <MohammadAG> I tried update-grub / update-grub2 in a chroot, OSs are detected, but it still drops me into a prompt
[21:54] <MohammadAG> any suggestions?
[21:55] <daftykins> MohammadAG: errors?
[21:55] <MohammadAG> none
[21:56] <daftykins> is it a multi-boot setup?
[21:56] <SunkSullen> no
[21:56] <SunkSullen> for me
[21:56] <SunkSullen> same problem
[21:56] <MohammadAG> yes, for some (old, can't remember it) reason, it goes from Windows 7 boot screen selection -> GRUB
[21:56] <SunkSullen> damn UEFI
[21:57] <MohammadAG> I don't have/use UEFI
[21:57] <SunkSullen> legacy?
[21:57] <MohammadAG> it's a custom desktop from 4 years ago
[21:57] <vik123> anyone here ?
[21:57] <MohammadAG> so yeah, legacy
[21:58] <SunkSullen> well I'm going to try super-grub2 disc
[21:58] <SunkSullen> see i I can repair
[21:58] <SunkSullen> LAME
[21:59] <vik123> my laptop is overheating . its around 60 C  i use 14.04, however it was good with 12.04 . Is there anyway i can downgrade to 12.04 without affecting my programs
[21:59] <daftykins> vik123: no
[22:00] <vik123> else dowgrade my kernal
[22:00] <vik123> downgrade*
[22:00] <chicognu> http://imgur.com/s4kuKh5 my files saved from dvr looks like that ... whys is this happing ?
[22:00] <General_Linear> hi
[22:00] <vik123> i use hybrid amd and intel graphics . that causes the problem
[22:00] <_blk> vik123, the 12.04 kernel is probably too far back to work.
[22:01] <daftykins> chicognu: maybe they're encrypted.
[22:01] <vik123> _blk: yeah i know , but my laptop temp is around 60 C
[22:01] <MohammadAG> Installed grub to MBR, that fixed it
[22:01] <_blk> vik123, it's probably the AMD GPU producing the heat so you want to get that down (unless you have 100% cpu usage).. are you using the binary blob?
[22:01] <chicognu> daftykins, i don't think so
[22:01] <MikeRL> Help please.
[22:02] <daftykins> MikeRL: have you looked up your model of laptop + ubuntu?
[22:02] <vik123> _blk: binary blob , dont know about it
[22:02] <UbuntuBoy> hMessengerey ppl, had a quick question. How do i get my Infinity Comcast to stream thru ubuntu14.04? i have tube working fine and have flash going. however when i go to my comcast site to stream movies it times out and just contun
[22:02] <UbuntuBoy> to kep buffing
[22:02] <ridethespiral> I had to use an acpi_call module to disable my discreet graphics because it was causing my laptop to overheat and shut off
[22:02] <chicognu> daftykins, it is videos saved from the cameras sistem ... i can play all they
[22:02] <MikeRL> daftykins, it's a hpdv7-4285dx and Ubuntu 14.04.
[22:02] <_blk> vik123, the fglrx driver from AMD (binary only) or the open source radeon driver
[22:02] <daftykins> MikeRL: that's lovely but you didn't answer my question
[22:03] <cancer> i cannot seems to install linux with win 8, it's show free space when choosing partition for space. i'm currently running window 8 and i am trying for dual boot. i have disabled fastboot/startup and changed UEFI to CSM, Secure boot "Disabled" for USB boot but still having same partition issue for any linux distro.
[22:03] <MikeRL> daftykins, I can, but it worked for how many previous releases.
[22:03] <MikeRL> daftykins, and on 14.04 I have massive issues. I'll try Googling again, but I doubt I'll find the answer.
[22:04] <lodabub> I have a question about an unusual thing.  I'm trying to install libtinfo5 using dpkg on an amd64 system.  I did use dpkg --add-architecture i386.
[22:04] <vik123> _blk: i use default open source driver , because AMD driver heats too much than this . However it was opposite case for 12.04. AMD driver worked like a charm in that . got around only 40 C
[22:04] <_blk> vik123, while I don't have much experience with the non-open stuff, I think the catalyst driver has power savings options that the open source driver might not possess. So you could try installing the binary driver (there's plenty of documentation for that) and the use the catalyst control center to regulate the power consumption
[22:04] <lodabub> libtinfo5 i386
[22:05] <UbuntuBoy> does anyone know why i cant get my infinty comcast to stream movies thru ubuntu14.04
[22:05] <MikeRL> daftykins, I found similar questions related to Fedora. Nothing with an answer.
[22:05] <UbuntuBoy> im trying to stream my comcast movies thru ubuntu 14.04  and cant seem to get it to stream.. you tube works fine..
[22:06] <DrGrov> bekks: Hi, still there?
[22:06] <MikeRL> daftykins, I'vve had this issue for about a month.
[22:07] <vik123> _blk: i tried catalyst driver , i ran into problem , i was not able to get into GUI . However i used the old version of AMD driver which i downloaded 5 months ago . i will check with the new one
[22:07] <MikeRL> daftykins, Also I Googled and only got three pages of results. The most relevant thing was a bug I reported to other less serious keyboard issues.
[22:07] <daftykins> MikeRL: seems like if you really need this thing working, you should go back to 12.04
[22:08] <_blk> vik123, I believe there's a way to install it from the ubuntu repositories
[22:08] <OerHeks> UbuntuBoy, as i understand right: xfinity Comcast content need silverlight, that is broken as of yesterday, netflix too.
[22:08] <MikeRL> daftykins, I can wait. I just want to find the cause and file a bug report.
[22:08] <daftykins> right, i can't help with that
[22:09] <MikeRL> daftykins, It's messed up. Every non-LTS prior to 14.04 since 12.04 worked without major issues.
[22:09] <MikeRL> daftykins, Who can help? I need help.
[22:09] <cancer> i cannot seems to install linux with win 8, it's show free space when choosing partition for installation space. i'm currently running window 8 and i am trying for dual boot. i have disabled fastboot/startup and changed UEFI to CSM, Secure boot "Disabled" for USB boot but still having same partition issue for any linux distro.
[22:10] <vik123> _blk: u mean section 2.1 in this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[22:10] <MikeRL> daftykins, Worth trying #ubuntu-bugs?
[22:10] <daftykins> MikeRL: well, i can tell you right now that repeatedly asking in desperation isn't going to do anything but anger us
[22:10] <randomjerk> came because i have a broken boot loader, stayed to watch others ask
[22:10] <xeno_> Okay, so now I have a fullyinstalled gnome-shell, and it just comes up a gray screen with no menus.
[22:11] <daftykins> cancer: you can't install ubuntu in legacy mode beside an EFI installation of windows 8
[22:11] <daftykins> well you can but you'd have to keep changing mode to boot each
[22:11] <MikeRL> daftykins, I can find a log file and upload it. I'm only desperate because it's quite annoying. I know you guys are volunteers, but I have to file a bug report somehow.
[22:11] <vik123> _blk: should i follow section 2.1  or 3.2 . as its for hybrid graphics , which is my case
[22:12] <cancer> daftykins | it's my first time with EFI type don't know much about it. confused. :|
[22:12] <daftykins> !efi | cancer
[22:12] <MikeRL> daftykins, I can try and calm down, but would it be best to try #ubuntu-bugs?
[22:12] <daftykins> instead of asking me you could've gone in and asked by now. but you don't know what to file a bug against
[22:13] <MikeRL> daftykins, How do I find out what to file a bug against? That's part of the issue.
[22:13] <_blk> vik123, looks like a good starting point
[22:13] <vik123> _blk: which one should i follow 2.1 or 3.2
[22:14] <_blk> vik123, I was thinking of using the "Additional drivers" (http://askubuntu.com/questions/301543/how-to-open-the-additional-drivers-window-using-command-line) but it may not cover your hybrid case..
[22:14] <vik123> as mine is Hybrid graphics
[22:14] <_blk> vik123, afaik Hybrid isn't really supported.. it's one or the other, and you need a reboot to switch
[22:14] <cancer> windows is installed in CSM mode as i remember, coz it's won't boot in other option.
[22:15] <MikeRL> daftykins, Would it be a safe assumption to say it's Xorg?
[22:15] <_blk> vik123, but I'm definitely not an expert on that! So unless somebody else knows more about that, it's trial-and-error
[22:15] <daftykins> MikeRL: no. i have to go now so please relax on the highlighting me
[22:15] <vik123> _blk: k thanks for this . i will try :)
[22:15] <MikeRL> OK, sure.
[22:15] <_blk> vik123, good luck
[22:16] <vik123> :)
[22:17] <randomjerk> ubottu: help
[22:17] <randomjerk> oh - that's not help for the bot.
[22:18]  * randomjerk bets he won't be
[22:19] <randomjerk> the robot says grubrepair could be a thing
[22:19] <randomjerk> the wiki says Boot-Repair - but it has some directions that just lead to me breaking my dpkg sources
[22:22] <cancer> is wubi installation possible with windows 8
[22:22] <cancer> ?
[22:23] <cancer> with UEFI/EFI board....!!
[22:24] <k1l> dont use wubi
[22:25] <bigbadben> so I have a couple different sets of ssh keys in my .ssh how does the keyring know what ssh keys to use?
[22:25]  * jackooo for those who just wake up  0x71.org is not social engineering http://i58.tinypic.com/53plw7.png http://i58.tinypic.com/53plw7.png http://i58.tinypic.com/2d9eq07.png http://i58.tinypic.com/255p3z4.png
[22:28] <cancer> k1l | So, What do you Prefer?
[22:28] <k1l> a real install on own partitions
[22:28] <fun> is there some easy way to mass rename parts of files names?
[22:28] <cancer> but it's showing free space on partition a whole single drive.
[22:28] <fun> for example each file name that cointains pear changes that part to orange
[22:29] <k1l> cancer: ?
[22:29] <fun> ????
[22:29] <fun> lol
[22:29] <cancer> It's not letting me chose partition for installation, i already have.
[22:29] <semitones> hi! I have a low-res plymouth screen at boot. I found these instructions, but I need to know what they're doing so I can adapt them to my specific card. Specifically, what is "video=uvesafb:mode_option=1280x1024-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"" doing? http://askubuntu.com/questions/412233/low-resolution-on-boot-not-login
[22:30] <k1l> cancer: which filesystem do they have? can you make a screenshot of that installer part?
[22:31] <cancer> for linux, i made a swap and one ext3 of 25 Gb. but installer show me 320Gb of drive total space.
[22:31] <k1l> cancer: did you choose manual partition in the installer?
[22:32] <cancer> yes.
[22:33] <cancer> wait.
[22:33] <apb1963> what are people using for a pdf reader?
[22:33] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04
[22:33] <ridethespiral> After installing 14.04 videos won't play (eg youtube) They load up but just don't play
[22:34] <xangua> apb1963: evince is the default pdf viewer
[22:34] <_blk> apb1963, evince
[22:34] <apb1963> does it do annotations?
[22:34] <_blk> apb1963, kinda.. support is not great, especially in older versions.
[22:35] <i7c> Hi, I installed nvidia-cuda-* and am looking for the samples which should come along with cuda but can't seem to find them. I also tried downloading them alone from nvidia but they don't seem to offer them. How can I get those samples?
[22:36] <_blk> apb1963, consider switching to 14.04 for updated features (I'm sure annotations are better, but not if it's good enough)
[22:36] <agsel> anyone, how to restore data from one RAID1 drive?
[22:37] <loa> agsel, it is biggg problem) i was messing with it week earlier
[22:37] <cancer> k1l | what version you prefer to download for installation on EFI/UEFI type board and i want to run windows 8 too.
[22:37] <loa> google how you can mount it
[22:37] <apb1963> _blk: I've been using okular as it does annotations... it's really quite nice.  Unfortunately it requires some manual putting together (extra libraries) so it's a bit painful... I was hoping there was something as good, but with slightly less pain.
[22:37] <loa> there can be solution somewhere
[22:37] <_blk> agsel, what do you mean by "restore", undelete files (which isn't really a RAID problem), switch out a broken HDD - just pointing out the question specificity, I'm not sure I'll be able to help out
[22:38] <_blk> apb1963, I think there's a proprietary adobe reader for linux that might have better support.. no idea if it was updated in recent years though
[22:39] <apb1963> _blk: ok, thanks :)
[22:39] <_blk> apb1963, yw
[22:40] <agsel> ok, rephrasing. I have (hopefully) working RAID1 array (1TB both drives). I have a seagate NAS, which I guess broke down. Now I want to access my data from the drives. I only have one SATA cable, so I would like to access one drive.
[22:40] <locutus666> hey guys.  I am trying to figure out why this script isn't behaving like I would expect it to.  what I am expecting to happen is the script will autoconnect me to my vpn when not at one of the three locations listed, however I am at home and it is connecting me to my home vpn automatically
[22:40] <locutus666> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7449650/
[22:40] <locutus666> any help is appreciated :)
[22:45] <CarlFK> locutus666: change all your `` to $() so I can read it easier ;)
[22:48] <CarlFK> locutus666: what does this give you: cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep search | cut -d ' ' -f 2
[22:54] <locutus666> CarlFK, thanks :D.  I think I see the issue.  for some reason the resolv.conf is different now :S
[22:55] <adamcunnington> Hi, is there a command so that I can copy terminal output to clipboard
[22:55] <adamcunnington> it would be cool to do this command -b blah | copy
[22:55] <SchrodingersScat> !info xclip | adamcunnington
[22:55] <ridethespiral> Blah. Videos started working but I have no audio.. many problems with 14.04 :(
[22:55] <locutus666> CarlFK, before the search domain said my domain, now (for some reason or another) it says my wifi network name
[22:55] <SchrodingersScat> adamcunnington: so it's like command -b blah | xclip
[22:55] <adamcunnington> SchrodingersScat: wow that was quick, awesome - is that builtin?
[22:55] <SchrodingersScat> adamcunnington: since there's 2 separate clipboards, you can select between them.;  no, not built-in, says optional.
[22:56] <CarlFK> locutus666: dhcp server sends that, and your laptop dhcp client writes it into resolve.conf
[22:56] <adamcunnington> SchrodingersScat: can i use that after | pastebinit?
[22:56] <locutus666> CarlFK, is there a more "permanent" solution as it were?
[22:57] <locutus666> CarlFK, meaning another place to grab the same or similar info
[22:57] <CarlFK> adamcunnington: xclip -o | pastebinit
[22:57] <adamcunnington> CarlFK: it looks like | pastebinit | xclip worked
[22:57] <CarlFK> adamcunnington: er, i see what you want.  yeah, that too
[22:57] <adamcunnington> k cheers
[22:57] <SchrodingersScat> adamcunnington: ah, if you want the pastebinit link in xclip, then yep, that should be right.
[22:57] <CarlFK> locutus666: 'yes'  but I am not sure how
[22:58] <locutus666> CarlFK, ok :).  I can work around it for now.
[22:58] <CarlFK> locutus666: my guess is I would mess with network mananger's connections and setup 4 or 5 of them
[22:58] <locutus666> CarlFK, sounds good. :)
[23:00] <mhsquire> Hello everyone
[23:01] <mhsquire> So how do I debug ACPI issues with S3 suspend?
[23:03] <djbeirut> Hi.. i am new to linux and i am having major packet loss to my ubuntu 14.04 vps. i don't think it's an issue with my vps provider. i think it's in my configuration. how can i troubleshoot this in ubuntu?
[23:08] <bencc> how can I find what replaced http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/diff ?
[23:10] <k1l> bencc: see the description
[23:11] <bencc> k1l: what description?
[23:11] <k1l> bencc: on the site you just linked
[23:12] <bencc> k1l: I don't see description
[23:12] <bencc> ok diffutils
[23:13] <bencc> thanks
[23:13] <k1l> it says: "dummy transitional package for diff -> diffutils"
[23:15] <Bashing-om> vip
[23:15] <nomorebugs> so i created a 14.04 unetbooting usb in order to install ubuntu. when i shoose default or other option i just get a black screen
[23:16] <Beldar> !nomodeset | nomorebugs
[23:16] <nomorebugs> ok i will check it. thanks
[23:17] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: I am back, what now is the situation ? Been doing my homework,- still do not see a way to see what the routing situation is without you able to relay the info.
[23:23] <mhsquire> So I am having some ACPI problems. How do I start checking for bad drivers? This issue has to do with waking from S3
[23:25] <mhsquire> I am pretty sure my system would fail this test https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/fwts/s3
[23:26] <nomorebugs> ubottu: i dont get a get a purple screen with a keyboard logo at the bottom so i am not sure how to set nomodeset . i am pretty noob... btw i have a dell laptop with nouvau? card
[23:26] <nomorebugs> lol
[23:27] <Beldar> nomorebugs, unetbootin makes it harder to use the nomodeset option, the startup does not have the same gui as a disc.
[23:27] <Beldar> nomorebugs, or other usb loaders show.
[23:27] <nomorebugs> so what should i do?
[23:28] <nomorebugs> oh actually it seems like it is loading now!
[23:28] <nomorebugs> it just needed a few tries
[23:28] <nomorebugs> yep it loaded by itself... thanks though!
[23:29] <Beldar> nomorebugs, If you get to the desktop run a update and upgrade and check the additional drivers tab in software sources.
[23:29] <nomorebugs> ok!
[23:30] <mhsquire> Where do I learn to become a linux guru?
[23:30] <Beldar> mhsquire, Buddha
[23:31] <mhsquire> So I should follow the big path or the little path?
[23:31] <mhsquire> Because I would like the life of a monk.
[23:32] <mhsquire> However I also like the idea of having a social life.
[23:32] <Beldar> mhsquire, hehe, good answer, I'm not a guru, but just doing it seems to help.
[23:32] <mhsquire> Yeah, it seems like ACPI issues are troublesome.
[23:32] <mhsquire> There isn't good info online.
[23:32] <nomorebugs> i wont to copy my home folder from previous installation but it wont let me copy because of permissions. how  can i manage this?
[23:33] <Beldar> The best help here seem to be IT linux pro in some form or another
[23:34] <Beldar> nomorebugs, Is it in it's own partition?
[23:35] <mhsquire> Beldar, is that a website?
[23:38] <Beldar> mhsquire, No, just that the best help here seems to come from people who run linux in a professional environment, I don't know the exact market job names is all. However this is open source so some do this free contextually.
[23:39] <mhsquire> Beldar, I could see how helping others with problems would boost one's skill.
[23:39] <Guest23784> Im having some problems installing openssl manually on ubuntu server 2014, by any chance could someone help me on installing it manually. I checked the documents and guides, including INSTALL documentation, but I keep getting "make: *** [install_docs] Error 255" error when installing.
[23:40] <Beldar> mhsquire, I'm not your best help here though, I'm just an armchair enthusiast. ;)
[23:41] <mhsquire> https://01.org/linux-acpi/documentation/debug-how-isolate-linux-acpi-issues Says "Suspend to RAM Issues" TBD
[23:42] <nomorebugs> i have a previous Ubuntu installation on my hard disk.  And now i want to format the hard disk and install 14.04 . But i cant copy paste in order to back up the previous home folder. Any help?
[23:43] <Guest23784> Why dont you just upgrade rather than format your hard disk?
[23:43] <Guest23784> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades
[23:43] <viper3905gt1> Bashing-om: u on?
[23:44] <nomorebugs> because today i destroyd my 12.04 and i cant login with gui and it doesnt find external hard drive. So only choice is to format...
[23:44] <sam__> please answer to my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/464481/how-do-i-play-local-swf-files-in-ubuntu-14-04
[23:46] <mhsquire> nomorebugs, can you boot from the 12.04 disc?
[23:46] <Guest23784> nomorebugs, so you cant get into anything? not even login screen
[23:47] <mhsquire> nomorebugs, A disc might be the best way to go, as you could then use the same partitions.
[23:47] <Bashing-om> viper3905gt1: Yeah< I am here, Ya see my last (ist time ping at ya ?).
[23:47] <nomorebugs> nope. login screen is dead since i purged gnome and  my source.list is fucked up and i am also a noob :)
[23:47] <Guest23784> Yes, and you can mount your hard drive as well to copy over any needed files
[23:47] <IdleOne> nomorebugs: Please don't swear in this channel
[23:47] <nomorebugs> sorry :(
[23:48] <Guest23784> oh okay, no problem. All you need to do is get ubuntu 14.04 live disk, mount hard drive, copy over anything thats important, and then you can install 14.04
[23:48] <Guest23784> that would be your best bet
[23:48] <viper3905gt1> Bashing-om: guess i dident
[23:48] <mhsquire> Yeah I am considering upgrading.
[23:49] <mhsquire> I want to get this ACPI issue fixed though.
[23:49] <nomorebugs> i have a usb and i am  now with the default option of unetbooting just before installing. I just cant copy my previous home folder because of permissions...
[23:49] <Guest23784> That is perfect, do you have the hard drive mounted?
[23:49] <Guest23784> Like do you see the option?
[23:50] <nomorebugs> yep
[23:50] <Guest23784> Perfect, go to your terminal, type "sudo nautilus" without quotes, that will open up your file manager with sudo and copy over anything thats important
[23:50] <PhlowHome> Is there a way to move the close/max/min buttons to the right in 14.04?
[23:51] <Guest23784> When its moved over you may want to consider chown-ing the files. Go to folder in terminal, "chown -R username:username /location/to/folder/
[23:51] <Guest23784> "
[23:53] <Guest23784> Does anybody here have some advanced linux skills here by any chance? Im having problems compiling openssl from source on ubuntu server?
[23:53] <nomorebugs> Guest23784:  with nautilus it looks like it works
[23:54] <Guest23784> yep, you are using nautilus as the root user
[23:54] <nomorebugs> Guest23784:  although some files that i dont care said they couldnt move so i skipped
[23:54] <Guest23784> nautilus is your file manager
[23:54] <Guest23784> kk
[23:55] <Guest23784> you may want to open your terminal and "chown -R username:username /location/to/folder/" and then "chmod -R 755 /location/to/folder/"
[23:55] <Guest23784> but you have your files safe now so everything after will be a seperate permissions issue
[23:56] <Guest23784> Ubuntu has great docs on permissions:
[23:56] <Guest23784> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[23:57] <Guest23784> Does anybody know of an Ubuntu Server IRC channel?
[23:58] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-server
[23:58] <Guest23784> Thanks