[00:02] <eleventeen> So my upgrade from 12.10 to 13.10 has been stuck at the flashplugin-installer downloading step for a couple of hours; should I just kill it and start it again?
[01:07] <brodyrethy_> Hello.
[01:08] <drc> hello
[01:10] <brodyrethy_> Do you know how to get Skype on xubuntu 14.04?
[01:12] <drc> nope, never touch the stuff :)
[01:13] <drc> There is this though https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype . I'd assume that it'd hold good for Xubuntu asl well.
[01:14] <xangua> brodyrethy_: open software center, enable partner  repository, install Skype
[01:14] <drc> Even easier :)
[01:14] <brodyrethy_> Thanks.
[01:14] <brodyrethy_> :)
[01:17] <xubuntu795> Hello- so I'm here. I have a question about the 12.04 that I installed last night. it starts up painfully slow, and I can't get to my "windows" operating system. should I go back?
[01:19] <xubuntu795> Looked in the FAQs, but didn't find what seemed to help. tried editing "GRUB", but it's read only.
[01:20] <brodyrethy_> I think it's because of windows and xubuntu dual boot.
[01:51] <delt> how come nvidia proprietary drivers == no bootup screen? :(
[01:52] <drc> No idea...it's a known problem, so I suspect someone's working on it and will release the solution when it's found.
[02:06] <Unit193> I have nVidia and plymouth, more or less.
[02:11] <drc> Unit193: Which nvidia driver (I'm wondering if it makes a difference which version one uses)?
[02:11] <Unit193> I set a fb size.
[02:27] <delt> how come my system doesn't have "vbeinfo" or "hwinfo"?
[02:28] <delt> No command 'hwinfo' found, did you mean: Command 'hinfo' from package 'ganeti-htools' (universe)
[02:28] <delt> hwinfo: command not found
[02:29] <Unit193> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Plymouth < That's what I saw.
[02:40] <drc> delt: I see no hwinfo or vbeinfo in the repos...there is a vbetool (installed on my system) and a hwdata (not installed).
[02:43] <rstreeter> I was wondering how to get Thunar's sendto mail recipient to use Geary? I have it set to default email client but get an input/output error when I try to send a file via the send to mail recipient
[02:46] <delt> ok, i can run "vbeinfo" from the grub menu. It only shows VESA modes for some reason :/ :(
[04:33] <vrkalak> hey, Unit193
[04:33] <Unit193> Howdy.
[08:15] <xubuntu808> Hi! Why does xubuntu LTS have 3 years support when ubuntu LTS have 5 years support?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> xubuntu808 it just does - probably cause ubuntu has more people to support it than xubuntu does
[08:17] <deni_> good morning people!
[08:17] <xubuntu808> Is it more difference than just the desktop layout?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> xubuntu808 of course.  compare the installed applications
[08:18] <ochosi> xubuntu808: you'll still be getting updates for the kernel etc in xubuntu after 3yrs, but the xfce components will only be supported with bugfixes by us for 3yrs (for what cfhowlett said)
[08:18] <deni_> I would like to ask a question could I?
[08:18] <ochosi> !ask
[08:18] <cfhowlett> !ask|deni_
[08:19] <deni_> ah ok...so I have to use the forum?
[08:20] <xubuntu808> I havent met any bugs yet. New to Linux and like the look of xubuntu best. I go for the LTS versions. Thanks for the replies.
[08:21] <cfhowlett> deni_ ASK YOUR QUESTION ...
[08:23] <deni_> thank you cfhowlett
[08:23] <deni_> my question is about the lock screen features
[08:23] <deni_> *feature
[08:24] <deni_> I have the following two problems:
[08:24] <deni_> first one when I use it, if I am listening to some sound it stops working, I mean I cannot hear anything when I turn the lock screen on
[08:25] <deni_> I have seen the setting but I am unable to find a solution
[08:26] <deni_> the second problem is that, randomly, sometimes, when I turn the lock screen on and I want to enter the password for to unlock it, moving the mouse or pressing a key, the screen is black and I am forced to enter the password blindly
[08:26] <deni_> without see anything in the morning
[08:26] <deni_> could somebody tell me something about these issues?
[08:26] <deni_> thank you to all!
[09:19] <Morrog> I have 2 user accounts on my Xubuntu 13.10. For user A i have a wallpaper image set, and LightDM follows this. For user B i have set a #000000 background. LightDM however still picks the default xubuntu wallpaper. Any idea how i can tell LightDM to have it listen to my user B setting?
[09:26] <knome> Morrog, that might have something to do with not being a wallpaper
[09:26] <Morrog> yeah i suspected as much. but it's still quite annoying
[09:26] <knome> Morrog, i guess if you made a 1x1px black image and stretched it, it would work
[09:26] <Morrog> Yes, that would've been my next choice
[09:26] <knome> ack. i just asked one of the developers if this is known
[09:30] <Morrog> it's a small insignificant problem anyway, but things should work, right? :-
[09:30] <Morrog> :-)
[09:32] <knome> sure, but priorities :)
[09:32] <Morrog> of course :)
[09:32] <knome> unfortunately we have other higher priority items to cope with
[09:32] <Morrog> i'm sure of that
[09:32] <Morrog> thank you for your answer. i will try the black pixel background
[09:33] <knome> no problem
[09:33] <knome> if you are willing to use some time, check if there is a bug about this in launchpad, and if not, file one
[09:33] <flux242> knome: what's your priorities then?
[09:33] <Morrog> i'll check it out
[09:34] <Morrog> i imagine the known 14.04 issues are giving you much more trouble (like power manager and light-locker)
[09:34] <knome> yeah, the black screen bug is very high priority
[09:37] <Morrog> how linux distro devs don't all have grey hair from stress, it's beyond me ^^
[09:38] <knome> acknowledging that it's not the end of the world if there is a bug helps ;)
[09:39] <Morrog> from what i can tell you're all doing a fine job :)
[09:39]  * knome bows
[09:39] <knome> i hope so too, and i hope people can enjoy the fruit of the work
[09:41] <Morrog> must be
[09:41] <Morrog> but it's easier to complain than to say 'well done'
[09:41] <knome> absolutely
[09:41] <knome> but that's usually just the vocal minority
[09:41] <knome> acknowledging that helps as well ;)
[09:45] <Morrog> i'll try to file a bug
[09:50] <knome> Morrog, cheers
[09:50] <knome> i'm off, have fun everybody -->
[09:51] <Morrog> have a good day
[09:51] <knome> you too
[10:32] <starrats> Strange question here?  Gave my old macbook running OSX Tiger, all out of date, cannot update, would like to put on xubuntu 14.04 on the entire HDD, is it possible or what?
[10:38] <well_laid_lawn> should be ok starrats
[10:38] <well_laid_lawn> check for howtos though
[10:50] <starrats> thanks well_laid_lawn
[12:26] <xubun2> i'm trying to get a notification (programatically) of when my screensaver is activated. i've tried xfce docs, but i'm wondering if i should look for this at the DE level or elsewhere ? any pointers would be helpful, tia.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> xubun2 I know there
[12:29] <cfhowlett> there's a log entry somewhere related to powersave or screensave but can't advise beyond that.
[12:30] <Random832> Every time I log in I get eight "system problem detected" dialogs and two terminal windows - where is this stuff stored?
[12:31] <Random832> [when I last logged out I had no terminal windows open (and usually it's only one)]
[12:31] <cfhowlett> Random832 xubun2 ##linux may be able to give guidance
[12:31] <elfy> Random832: /var/crash
[12:32] <Random832> okay
[12:32] <Random832> now what about the terminal windows?
[12:33] <elfy> Random832: clear sessions - settings manager - session and startup - session
[12:34] <Random832> it says to restart xfce4-terminal "if running"
[12:34] <Random832> why does that open two windows if I only had one or none open?
[12:35] <xubun2> cfhowlett: thanks
[13:06] <xubuntu342> salut
[16:23] <BBLLCC> hi
[16:23] <BBLLCC> i have a duplicate sources problem, details here: http://sprunge.us/hTjP
[16:25] <xangua> if they are duplicated then delete  it from your sources list or go to software center-edit menu- sources
[16:26] <BBLLCC> xangua, so, simply find the files by the mentioned path and delete the files...
[17:11] <jmelton> Hello, I'm just getting started using xubuntu.  I created and logged into a user account that is listed as an administrator.  However, my password is not accepted when it asks for superuser priviledges (such as creating a wifi connection)
[17:12] <jmelton> I can log in to Xubuntu just fine using my password
[17:13] <elfy> jmelton: does password have symbols in it?
[17:13] <jmelton> yes
[17:14] <elfy> and do the keys for the symbols produce the right type in an editor - just checking you're not being caught by some ibus thing
[17:16] <jmelton> I tried typing it in leafpad, it looked fine, then copy / pasted in into the box.
[17:16] <elfy> and did it work?
[17:17] <jmelton> no, it did not work
[17:17] <jmelton> All of the symbols are things like @ $ % =
[17:18] <elfy> so the normal user works - as does it's password, you've created a new user and the password doesn't work?
[17:20] <jmelton> My new user password works fine when logging to xubuntu, just not when it asks for superuser rights
[17:22] <jmelton> I disabled the default account once I was able to log in my new account, which was listed as an admin account.
[17:23] <jmelton> thank you for responding to my request, by the way.  I appreciate the help.
[17:25] <elfy> why did you delete the default account?
[17:30] <jmelton> I just disabled it -  it's still there.  As for why I disabled it, I honestly don't have a good reason for doing so
[18:01] <Kolor> Since upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 some applications aren't displaying their icon in the notification area (two examples are Dropbox and Deluge / deluge-gtk). If I run them via sudo their icons display but this is not a work around I'm happy with. Any ideas?
[18:44] <SunilJoshi> Hello, how can i configure the Xubuntu menu to add shutdown and restart  buttons, just like that we have on login screen?
[18:50] <elfy> SunilJoshi: I don't think that you can at present
[18:55] <SunilJoshi> elfy: ok!
[18:56] <Kolor> If you don't logout you can modify your xfce4-session-logout.desktop
[18:56] <Kolor> just change the exec
[18:57] <elfy> or instead of mucking about wit desktop files - you can just add action buttons to the panel and do it the old way
[18:58] <SunilJoshi> Currently i am trying adding new buttons using menuLibre
[18:59] <Kolor> right click panel > panel > add new items > action buttons
[18:59] <Kolor> you should see your username in the new panel, that will give you the shutdown etc options
[19:01] <SunilJoshi> Kolor: yup got it! thanks! But there is no restart in there
[19:02] <elfy> right click on it
[19:02] <elfy> and you can change what it shows
[19:03] <SunilJoshi> elfy: yup found it :) !!!
[19:03] <SunilJoshi> thanks
[19:39] <DasFamiliar> Hello! I got a question for you guys.  I have a Lenovo Y500 that has its bios in legacy support, secure boot disabled. It has a Windows 7 partition on it I use for work, but I also would like to take the second partiton to use Xubuntu. However, when I try to install it, the installer (even gpart) ignores the partitions and sees the drive as its hasn't been touch.  Has anyone see and found a
[19:39] <DasFamiliar> work around for this issue?
[19:41] <starrats_> did you let xubuntu install automatically?
[19:42] <DasFamiliar> Well when it didn't see the partition I was actually afraid to because of fear of losing the Windows partition.
[19:43] <starrats_> and see your win7 partition to keep it, on one of thinstall panels it does ask you what you want to do with the install, like side by sisde or ?
[19:44] <DasFamiliar> No, when that comes up. It's acting as if the Windows 7 partion doesn't even exist. Its treating it like its a hard drive that hasn't been formatted.
[19:44] <starrats_> like side by side and keep all your files
[19:45] <starrats_> ah okaybecausde i have numerously installed xubuntu 14.04 and everytime it has asked if i want to keep the other os and it's filesd to keep the partition
[19:45] <starrats_> sorry typing to fast
[19:47] <DasFamiliar> its okay.  It does give me a warning it sees GTP partiton tables, but it isn't sure what they are. It ask me if its GTP *yes/no*. If I choose yes, its showing a 1TB of unallocated space. If you chose no it has a ! error icon.  Then when you boot into windows you can see the 1TB split up in 2 partitions of 500G/each +/- a few gigs.
[19:48] <DasFamiliar> I have read that Installing Windows 7 with UEFI disabled seems to do some weird things, but Xubuntu is acting as its not sure what its looking like.
[19:48] <DasFamiliar> at* sorry.
[19:49] <Swank> hey whats up. i installed Xubuntu a couple of months ago and got the basics down pretty well but i am dissapointed to see that when i put a DVD into my laptop, nothing happens. can anyone help?
[19:51] <Swank> hey whats up. i installed Xubuntu a couple of months ago and got the basics down pretty well but i am dissapointed to see that when i put a DVD into my laptop, nothing happens. can anyone help?
[20:40] <qwwert> Hej I decided to install XUbuntu on my Laptop somehow Windows 8 was installed before. I boot XUbuntu from Dvd with Secure Boot enabled,but I cannt install an installation drive. In the live system I'm not able to mount my harddrive.
[20:40] <qwwert> Its a hybrid Ssd
[21:19] <__raven_> hi
[21:20] <__raven_> 14.04 networking problem similar to that: http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-internet-problem-in-ubuntu-14-04-after-upgrading-from-12-04-450806.html "waiting for network configuration" during boot - known solutions?
[21:45] <SunkSullen> Ugh I can't get Xubuntu to install on this stupid new HP slimline without going to boot menu...selected efi.....ubuntu....then grub
[21:45] <SunkSullen> tried grub-config in xubuntu and installed to MBR but didnt work
[21:45] <SunkSullen> are they trying to kill off Linux or what?
[21:49] <David-A> SunkSullen: that last question was rhetorical, or you really are in doubt?
[21:50] <SunkSullen> David-A sorry ignore that
[21:50] <SunkSullen> please
[21:50] <SunkSullen> then
[22:40] <cubed_root> i got a bunch of error messages when running an install in synaptic. anyone know if it logs these error messages somewhere