[03:24] <ahoneybun_> hey valorie
[03:26] <valorie> hi ahoneybun_
[03:26] <valorie> how are you?
[03:26] <ahoneybun_> valorie: pretty good is the house work done?
[03:26] <valorie> YES!
[03:26] <ahoneybun_> nice
[03:26] <valorie> lovely bathrooms
[03:27] <ahoneybun_> I'm on manjaro right now
[03:27] <valorie> I feel like I'm in a resort every time I use one of them
[03:27] <valorie> lol
[03:27] <valorie> nice
[03:27] <valorie> that's a child of what I started with in linux: Mandrake
[03:27] <valorie> eons ago
[03:27] <valorie> I think.....
[03:28] <ahoneybun_> manjaro is based on arch
[03:30] <valorie> ah, OK
[03:31] <ScottK> The only think I know about arch is that the way they treated the python -> python3 change is totally insane.  It's enough to convince me never to go near it or anything derived from it.
[03:31] <ahoneybun_> using KDE
[03:31] <ahoneybun_> I has amazing auto hardware setup
[03:31] <ahoneybun_> as good as ubuntu
[03:32] <valorie> on the good side, arch has *great* wiki documentation
[03:32] <ahoneybun_> yep
[03:32] <valorie> on the other side, the attitude of many arch users is less than good
[03:33] <ahoneybun_> omg KDE on here is fast!
[03:33] <valorie> in #amarok or #kde
[03:36] <ahoneybun_> g2g to bed
[03:39] <valorie> sweet dreams, ahoneybun_
[03:39] <valorie> nice to see you
[05:25] <ScottK> shadeslayer_: Please look at python-qt4 in Debian and tell me if the QString patch in the newest upload solves the problem the patch you added in Ubuntu solves.
[05:25] <ScottK> Also, please send that stuff upstream.
[05:26] <ScottK> (assuming the answer turns out to be no)
[06:36] <Riddell> apachelogger: aye it's a bricht braw mornin richt enough
[06:43] <soee> good morning
[07:00] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:55] <Riddell> utopic meeting today!
[07:55] <Riddell> yofel, apachelogger: where is it?
[07:56] <Riddell> I wouldn't be against just using google hangouts, it's probably easier than setting up mumble
[08:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: I have not heared back from yofel yet, we might just install it on qa.kubuntu I reckon
[08:00] <yofel> that can be tricky too. I reset mumble on kyofel.dyndns.org if someone wants to try.
[08:14] <Riddell> yofel: seems to be working, nobody here!
[08:18] <valorie> can you say again what settings?
[08:18]  * valorie starts mumble
[08:18] <valorie> hmmm, connection refused
[08:19] <valorie> shoot, this is the application that needs the USB headset
[08:20]  * valorie failed at testing in time....
[08:22] <valorie> so, I have Yofel's server and Kubuntu, which tries an ec2
[08:22] <valorie> neither connect
[08:23] <Riddell> valorie: what happens when you connect to kyofel.dyndns.org ?
[08:23] <valorie> refused
[08:24] <valorie> oh, let me check
[08:24] <valorie> yay!
[08:27] <Riddell> image of new Breeze artwork, I like how it has a kubuntu icon in the corner http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/11/loving_it.png
[08:31] <Riddell> apachelogger, yofel: mumble works for me and valorie 
[08:31] <valorie> thank you!
[08:31] <apachelogger> *thumbs up*
[08:31] <valorie> tty soon
[08:38] <soee> Riddell: the pic is just a concept or it shows how plasma-next looks like atm ?
[09:01] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: re Python Qt4 qstring, already sent upstream
[09:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: got a notepad for the meeting or shall I kick off https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-utopic ?
[09:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: feel free to kick
[09:13] <ovidiu-florin> Do we have firefox 28 or 29 on the new Kubuntu 14.04?
[09:15] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: -release has 28 -update has -29 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox
[09:15] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[09:15] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: thank you.
[09:16] <ovidiu-florin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNUGebxE2Qk#t=15 he complained that the release announcement sayd 28 and he has 29
[09:16] <ovidiu-florin> so I wanted to check on that
[09:20] <Riddell> yeah it's been updated, going against all the UI freezes etc as firefox likes to do
[09:26] <jussi> hrm, I just discovered "kepas". Interesting thing, perhaps we should feature different kde apps that arent used so often, mabe once a  month?  anyone else want to volunteer to also write an article, maybe once every 3 months on a rotating basis ?
[09:26]  * apachelogger has a strong suspicion that pam-kwallet should have been named libpam-kwallet
[09:26] <apachelogger> jussi: kepas is unmaintained since forever
[09:27] <jussi> apachelogger: ok, fair enough, but thats not the point...
[09:27] <shadeslayer_> we're using boost 1.55 for utopic correct?
[09:27] <jussi> (so if its unmaintained, why is it still in the repos)
[09:27] <shadeslayer_> jussi: hasn't been updated in forever
[09:27] <shadeslayer_> since precise 
[09:27] <apachelogger> because no one removed it and because we have no policy because the council refuses to accept the proposed policy
[09:28] <jussi> so.... both  questions still stand
[09:28] <jussi> apachelogger: remind me of which policy we are talking about ?
[09:28] <apachelogger> the one dubbed "Dead Upstream" :P
[09:30] <jussi> apachelogger: did you propose it somewhere that I have missed?  link ?
[09:32] <apachelogger> http://markmail.org/thread/nu662wpkje7qdvas
[09:36] <apachelogger> Riddell, ovidiu-florin: updating release page to not mention a version? ;)
[09:37] <apachelogger> on that note, in the future we should keep versions out of it altogether
[09:37] <ovidiu-florin> apachelogger: or just say 28<
[09:37] <apachelogger> it's not like anyone cares
[09:37] <ovidiu-florin> or 28+
[09:37] <ovidiu-florin> :P
[09:38] <apachelogger> no version!
[09:38] <apachelogger> I kinda pulled the separation out my nose this time around
[09:39] <apachelogger> for the unicorn we should do this proper... the news itself should not mention versions (except for maybe the workspace itself, though even there I find it confusing)
[09:39] <apachelogger> then there's the technical release notes page where we mention versions and all that rubbish
[09:40] <apachelogger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[09:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: you may want to carry agenda items to the notes http://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Meeting 
[09:44]  * apachelogger sighs at the amount of cards
[10:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:26] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer_: bug 1317036  ... updater to dep on discover or new common package?
[10:26] <apachelogger> s/updater/notifier actually
[10:26] <apachelogger> (note: the long term goal is to actually have notifier start discover and use that exclusively for updates as well)
[10:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: were you able to reproduce bug 1315670 btw
[10:28] <shadeslayer_> nope
[10:28] <shadeslayer_> re 1317036, SRU dep on discover, make common package for utopic
[10:33]  * apachelogger manipulates nvidia deb
[10:35] <shadeslayer_> hurray, I can make dolphin crash
[10:36] <shadeslayer_> so even though dolphin runs on neon5, it doesn't actually work with sftp
[10:36] <shadeslayer_> yeahhhh .. doesn't work with local files too -.-
[10:36] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: ^^
[10:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: kdelibs4 dolphin?
[10:37] <shadeslayer_> yep
[10:37] <shadeslayer_> oh
[10:37] <shadeslayer_> wat
[10:37] <shadeslayer_> wait
[10:37] <shadeslayer_> wat
[10:37] <apachelogger> it wouldn't
[10:38] <shadeslayer_> I have a dolphin in /opt/p-n
[10:38] <apachelogger> in a neon5 env that would try to use kf5 slaves
[10:38] <shadeslayer_> whut?
[10:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: well, ported? :P
[10:39] <shadeslayer_> apparently
[10:39] <shadeslayer_> anyway, plz uploadery http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/milou/milou_0.1-1.dsc
[10:40] <shadeslayer_> ohm
[10:40] <shadeslayer_> wrong version
[10:42] <apachelogger> good thing I didn't have my build&dput command in the history 
[10:42] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/OP8H8id.png
[10:42] <apachelogger> I do wonder if that is really from the debconf gui
[10:42] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: is that from driver-manager?
[10:43] <apachelogger> no
[10:43] <shadeslayer_> http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/milou/milou_0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc
[10:43] <apachelogger> ./muon/TransactionWidget.cpp:                         "A new version of the configuration file "
[10:43] <apachelogger> not debconf
[10:44] <apachelogger> hm
[10:44] <shadeslayer_> :O
[10:44] <apachelogger> come to think of it
[10:44] <apachelogger> ah
[10:44] <apachelogger> ./libmuon/backends/ApplicationBackend/ApplicationUpdates.cpp:                         "A new version of the configuration file "
[10:44] <apachelogger> all good ^^
[10:44] <apachelogger> well
[10:44] <apachelogger> not really, there's at least duplicated strings
[10:44] <apachelogger> but at least it works with discover ^^
[10:45] <apachelogger> misarchitectured library I feel
[10:45] <shadeslayer_> ^^
[10:45] <apachelogger> clearly there's need for libqapt-gui
[10:45] <apachelogger> although
[10:45] <apachelogger> technically you won't even need that I guess, the strings would just be delivered from qapt
[10:46] <apachelogger> if the transaction states contain sufficient amount of data creating a suitable GUI should be plenty cheap
[10:46] <shadeslayer_> afaic(ould)t I just had to pass debconf-kde some temp path and connect debconf to the transaction and it would supposedly just work
[10:46] <apachelogger> that's not debconf
[10:46] <apachelogger> that's an apt builtin
[10:47] <apachelogger> so that needs separate handling
[10:47] <apachelogger> well, apt/dpkg really
[10:47] <apachelogger> dpkg detects that the md5sums don't add up anymore and doesn't know whether to keep the user version or install the new version from the package
[10:48] <apachelogger> debconf pretty much bypasses dpkg by simply blocking the maintscripts until debconf is done
[10:48] <apachelogger>   Uploading milou_0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[10:48] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[10:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: mh
[10:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: you stole the transaction state strings didn't you :P
[10:49] <shadeslayer_> yes :3
[10:49] <apachelogger> I think you forgot to steal the conflict handling :P
[10:49] <apachelogger> that's the same file actually
[10:49] <apachelogger> along with untrusted and media change xD
[10:50]  * apachelogger ponders factoring transaction handling into a different class and squints a bit
[10:51] <apachelogger> also, how do we best resolve this for 14.04 :/
[10:52] <jussi> apachelogger: I had a very quick look at your meta mail. seems like it got held up on one point, so the whole freight train stopped. Ill add my opinions later today
[10:52] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: mind accept milou from source/binary new?
[10:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: that muon code is giving me a headache
[10:55] <shadeslayer_> all I can think about right now is lunch
[10:56] <shadeslayer_> except that everyone's in the plasma hangout so we can't go for lunch :O
[10:56]  * apachelogger throws a keyboard
[10:57]  * apachelogger squints some more
[10:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: I don't think discover handles this correctly either
[10:57] <apachelogger> or updater for that matter
[10:57] <shadeslayer_> so where did that dialog come from
[10:57] <apachelogger> it appears to me there's no code wiring up the signal to the slot
[10:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: muon
[10:57] <shadeslayer_> ah ok
[10:57] <apachelogger> for reference I always go to muon ^^
[10:59] <shadeslayer_> I see what you mean
[11:01]  * apachelogger has very patchy ideas
[11:05] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: yeah, best way to go about fix this would be to copy the error handling code from muon I guess
[11:05] <shadeslayer_> and then figure out what we want to do for 14.10
[11:14] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/6qUA3Wm.png
[11:15] <shadeslayer_> cool
[11:19] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: what widget style is that btw?
[11:21] <apachelogger> curve
[11:25] <shadeslayer_> hmm, don't have it there
[11:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: u still here?
[11:29] <shadeslayer_> yus
[11:29] <shadeslayer_> people are blocking lunch
[11:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: please test driver manager trusty brunch
[11:29] <shadeslayer_> test case plz
[11:29] <shadeslayer_> also will probably leave for lunch soon
[11:29] <apachelogger> just general screwup testery
[11:29] <apachelogger> test case for the bug is veery excessive
[11:44]  * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2014/05/12/kubuntu-utopic-kickoff-meeting
[11:45] <ScottK> shadeslayer_: Did you look at the patch in Debian?
[11:48]  * apachelogger wonders how lunch got more important than apachelogger
[11:48]  * apachelogger pushes driver manager update
[11:56] <apachelogger>   Uploading kubuntu-driver-manager_14.04ubuntu10_source.changes: done.
[11:56] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[11:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: ^ fixed file conflict handling, untrusted package query and installation from multi-media sources (floppies? :P)
[11:57]  * ScottK looks
[12:39] <Riddell> hi sgclark 
[12:39] <sgclark> Riddell: good morning :)
[12:39] <Riddell> Mamarok: have you noticed any problems with audio in 14.04? there's a few people who have commented on http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=151
[12:39] <Riddell> well, two
[12:49] <sgclark> Riddell: so plasma next? also is this meeting something I should go to?
[12:50] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah do come to the meeting
[12:50] <Riddell> sgclark: test out mumble now
[12:50]  * sgclark installs mumble
[12:52] <sgclark> Riddell: 6 hours from now?
[12:52] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: muon-common should arrive in binary new within the next couple of hours (contains discover icon shared by notifier and discover)
[12:52] <Riddell> sgclark: yes
[12:52] <sgclark> ty
[13:01] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ping
[13:01] <Quintasan> apachelogger: pong
[13:02] <apachelogger> Quintasan: sddm?
[13:03] <Mamarok> Riddell: not so far
[13:03] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I want it in Debian as well so I asked ScottK to review what shadeslayer_ did on top of my work
[13:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: sddm? :P
[13:04]  * apachelogger gets outraged by the amount of cards in todo
[13:04] <Quintasan> I think two weeks ago he said he won't have time next week.
[13:08] <Riddell> hi manchicken, coming to the kickoff meeting today?
[13:08] <manchicken> Naw, I'm at work all day :(
[13:09] <apachelogger> Quintasan: fwiw, I do not approve of stuff getting blocked on availability of reviewer
[13:10] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Uh, and what do you want me to do?
[13:10] <Riddell> not worry about debian :)
[13:10] <apachelogger> for example
[13:10] <apachelogger> or find another reviewer
[13:10] <Quintasan> The ITP was changed to RFP because it got stuck in mentors so I figured I might ask Scott
[13:11] <apachelogger> if the policy gets in the way then do what Riddell suggested :P
[13:11] <Quintasan> Will do
[13:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, have you checked back with upstream on bug 1288469
[13:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: yep, no reply
[13:12] <Riddell> what does the policy say about that?
[13:12]  * apachelogger found a tooling refactor card and cries
[13:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: dead upstream rules apply I'd say
[13:13] <apachelogger> http://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#Dead_Upstream_.28.28NEW.29.29
[13:13] <apachelogger>  No new release have been published in >= 6 months. 
[13:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: maybe send another mail and if no response conduct viability test as described in the policy ... which would entail contacting kde-devel and/or kde-core-devel with a maintenance inquiry 
[13:16] <apachelogger> so perhaps end a mail and CC kde-devel
[13:17] <apachelogger> s/end/send
[13:21] <Riddell> sgclark: are you able to test mumble?
[13:22] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah
[13:22] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=partitionmanager.git&a=shortlog&h=08561a38ac43ee9a5b11f40079b17b44cfa3f456 last legit commit was in august :/
[13:23] <apachelogger> (then again I don't suppose partition managing needs that much adjustment once implemented ^^)
[13:23] <Riddell> sgclark: on the kubuntu server? I don't see you on
[13:24] <sgclark> Riddell: is that the name? kubuntu?
[13:24] <Riddell> sgclark: you need to set up a new server to kyofel.dyndns.org
[13:24] <sgclark> what country?
[13:24] <sgclark> ty
[13:25] <Riddell> apachelogger: yeah Andrius Štikonas was the guy who I saw who said we should package a snapshot
[13:27] <apachelogger> so I guess git reflects the non-responsiveness
[13:28]  * apachelogger hungry
[13:28] <Riddell> apachelogger: get lunch!
[13:29] <apachelogger> what is the question
[13:29] <apachelogger> ohohh
[13:30] <apachelogger> I am considering introducing a new board
[13:30] <apachelogger> 'Epics' contains large cards that will likely not be implemented in one cycle or are not blocking to one particular cycle
[13:31] <apachelogger> not sure that would make them any more likely to see activity but they'd at least not clutter up the todo list for cycle specific boards
[13:31] <Riddell> for stuff like "reengineers tools"?
[13:32] <apachelogger> for example https://trello.com/c/uelBh2rX would be such an epic card, it saw part of the desired features implemented in 14.04 but eventually did not get done entirely because it's super large
[13:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes, that too
[13:32] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/RrJZYwoM as well
[13:33] <apachelogger> it's those things that are nice to have eventually, but are not part of the target business such as fixing i18n in qapt https://trello.com/c/OZ7lDj3y
[13:34] <sgclark> Riddell: sorry firewall issue, in there now
[13:44] <ricotz> jmux, hello, regarding https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77128 -- i was told that http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=71f2aff7a56cef4e133abad3c2e447c76c5ee1fe goes together with an upstream fix in kde4libs/qt4
[13:47] <ricotz> jmux, are you able to point be to the related kde fix, and would reverting http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=aeda478a02523cec146f6af69710f0391061db56 still be a valid option
[13:54] <jmux> ricotz: Well - if you revert the fix, you get those "non-painting" lo stuff back
[13:57] <jmux> ricotz: A fixed version is currently in libreoffice-4-2 branch 80f113efa6f60c6b3aad33128921792451f114ce - which will be in 4.2.5
[13:58] <Riddell> sgclark: so.. yes, plasma packages
[13:58] <Riddell> sgclark: I guess just crack on with them
[13:58] <Riddell> sgclark: i added the list to https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas-frameworks
[13:59] <jmux> ricotz: Lubos made a squashed patch for 8 other patches from master
[13:59] <Riddell> sgclark: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-build-metadata.git&a=blob&&f=dependency-data-kf5-qt5&o=plain has many of the build-dependencies
[13:59] <Riddell> sgclark: so I guess start from libkscreen and work down
[14:02] <ricotz> jmux, sorry for the lack of context, the issue "crash/freeze on startup" issue seems to be resolved for 4.2.4/trusty, but a user reported the issue still occurs on precise with 4.2.4
[14:02] <ricotz> jmux, so you are saying this still needs further changes on the libreoffice side to work properly? even with older kde4libs
[14:03] <jmux> ricotz: I don't know, if Björn took the same patches for Trusty and Precise.
[14:03] <ricotz> jmux, i am backporting libreoffice to older ubuntu releases
[14:04] <jmux> ricotz: Yes - Lubos fixed two additional Qt4 bugs, while I was on holiday, and these resulted in additional changes to the KDE4 backend.
[14:04] <ricotz> the new 4.2.4 dropped the mentioned revert since upstream gained some "proper" fixes which seem to work for kde on trusty
[14:04] <ricotz> but still has issue with the kde version on precise
[14:05] <ricotz> (i havent reproduced/tested it myseld since i dont have any kde setup around)
[14:05] <jmux> Well - if you have the 80f113efa6f60c6b3aad33128921792451f114ce patch, then you shoudl be fine.
[14:06] <ricotz> jmux, alright i will check this out, thanks!
[14:06] <jmux> All Qt4 bugs are runtime detected by LO KDE4. As long as you don't have them applied you get the LO file pickers - everything else should work.
[14:07] <sgclark> Riddell: ok ty
[14:08] <Riddell> sgclark: also I made the tars so if you find problems in them like they include the wrong stuff or licences are not there then let me know
[14:09] <sgclark> Riddell: will do
[14:09] <mitya57> Riddell: I've pushed a "no-pch-on-arm64" commit to qt branch, that should fix FTBFS. Please upload if you can.
[14:10] <Riddell> mitya57: whatever is this troublesome pch thing?
[14:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: is neon5-201403051340.iso the latest?
[14:11] <Riddell> that's what I get when downloading http://files.kde.org/snapshots/neon5-latest.iso
[14:11] <shadeslayer_> nope
[14:11] <shadeslayer_> needs updating
[14:12] <mitya57> Riddell: precompiled headers
[14:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: where can I get a newer?
[14:21] <mitya57> Riddell: thanks, let's see how it goes
[15:19] <ScottK> apachelogger and Quintasan: No time yet.
[15:20] <ScottK> shadeslayer_: I think I should just sync over your python-qt4 patch.  Will you please check.
[15:20] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: can do in a bit, fixing some kcm issues at the moment
[15:20] <ScottK> OK
[15:58] <yofel> !testers | sc 4.13.1 needs testing in ninjas/trusty
[15:58] <yofel> shadeslayer_: how't utopic?
[15:58] <yofel> ... how's
[15:58] <shadeslayer_> haven't had the chance to get to it yet
[15:58] <shadeslayer_> trying to fix some broken stuff
[15:58] <yofel> ack
[15:58] <shadeslayer_> I don't think it's high priority anyway
[15:59] <shadeslayer_> also needs a strategy for merge
[16:00] <ScottK> yofel: Did you pull the kopete packaging fixes from bzr for trusty?
[16:00] <yofel> if it wasn't in -proposed then likely not
[16:02] <ScottK> No, I didn't do a trusty upload because I figured it could wait for .1.
[16:02] <yofel> ok, I see what you did. I'll merge it once I'm home
[16:02] <Quintasan> hmm
[16:02]  * Quintasan adds ninjas and tests
[16:04] <ScottK> yofel: Thanks.
[16:28] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: btw where did you get that patch from?
[16:28] <shadeslayer_> looks alright, seems like a derivation of Harald's patch
[16:29] <ScottK> shadeslayer_: mitya57 pulled it from upstream.
[16:29] <shadeslayer_> right, I couldn't actually find a git repo tbh :P
[16:29] <ScottK> It's hg and I don't think it's public.
[16:29] <ScottK> I generally diff the nightly tarballs when I need stuff.
[16:30] <shadeslayer_> thought so
[16:30]  * shadeslayer_ throws a keyboard at kio tests
[16:31] <ScottK> OK.  Thanks.  Synced.
[16:31] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: cheers
[16:31] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: IIRC we even had a test case to check 
[16:31]  * shadeslayer_ searches
[16:32] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/pvk1zotzg
[16:32] <shadeslayer_> if that still works, all's good :)
[16:48] <shadeslayer_> meeting in 1 hour?
[16:49] <yofel> 2
[16:49] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: 19:00 utc is in 3 hours
[16:49] <Quintasan> blah
[16:49] <Quintasan> 2 hours
[16:49] <shadeslayer_> right, 2 hours @_@
[16:49] <shadeslayer_> whaii :(
[16:52] <sgclark> Riddell: libkscreen is ready, where do you want these?
[16:52] <shadeslayer_> sigh, people keep blocking my lunch and dinner
[16:58] <sgclark> Riddell: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p8hlhv9lztlyyjl/AADmvn7nDXl3yfl4g8sMBh_8a/kubuntu-files
[18:41] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: ping
[18:44] <ScottK> shadeslayer_: re milou - Why does your License: LGPL-2 description in debian/copyright talk about GPL?
[18:49] <ScottK> shadeslayer_: Has is an end user going to know what baloo is (package description)?  Also, KDE desktop is not the current term.  I believe you want KDE Plasma Workspace or some such.
[18:50] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: must be a mistake from copying over the license
[18:50] <ScottK> Please fix that and the package description and re-upload.
[18:50]  * shadeslayer_ will be on mumble in a minute, waiting for apt to finish upgrading
[18:50] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: anything else?
[18:51] <ScottK> Nope.
[18:51] <shadeslayer_> cheers
[18:56] <Riddell> ** meeting in 5 minutes
[18:56] <valorie> connected!
[18:57] <Riddell> vgezer: coming to the meeting?
[18:57] <Riddell> ScottK: coming to the meeting?
[18:57] <vgezer> in 5 minutes :)
[18:57] <Riddell> Etriaph: coming to the meeting?
[18:58] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: coming to the meeting?
[18:58] <ScottK> Oh.  Right.
[18:58] <valorie> hmmm, no gholmer here....
[18:58] <vgezer> was in ubuntu-meeting, right
[18:58] <ScottK> No.
[18:58] <Etriaph> Riddell: I saw the Twitter post from Planet KDE, I don't happen to have a mic.
[18:58] <ScottK> What's the server name again?
[18:58] <Riddell> ScottK: kyofel.dyndns.org
[18:58] <Riddell> Etriaph: you can still listen in
[18:59] <Riddell> yofel: coming to the meeting?
[18:59] <ScottK> Thanks.
[18:59] <Etriaph> Yes, I could do that.  Is Mumble in the repos?
[18:59] <Riddell> Etriaph: yep
[18:59] <yofel> thanks for the ping ^^
[18:59] <Etriaph> Downloading..
[18:59]  * apachelogger stumbles in with a bottle of wine
[19:01] <Etriaph> OK, I'm in to listen.
[19:01] <Etriaph> When does the meeting begin?
[19:02] <Etriaph> Should I type in IRC or in Mumble?
[19:02] <Riddell> Etriaph: in mumble I guess to keep it in one place
[19:02] <apachelogger> textual mumbling how quaint
[19:09] <Riddell> d_ed: http://pad.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-utopic
[19:24] <Riddell> Mamarok: coming to meeting?
[19:24] <Riddell> agateau: coming to meeting
[19:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: coming to meeting?
[19:32] <Riddell> jussi: coming to the meeting?
[19:34] <jose> mass-ping: coming to meeting?
[19:35] <Riddell> :)
[19:46] <apachelogger> my wine is empty
[19:46]  * apachelogger waves fist
[19:50] <Riddell> Rick_Timmis: meeting!
[19:53] <Riddell> lordievader: meeting! :)
[20:11] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: sure what room?
[20:12] <ahoneybun_> or is it mumble
[20:12] <apachelogger> we lost d_ed noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:12] <apachelogger> ahoneybun_: mumblez
[20:13] <ahoneybun_> got it installing
[20:17] <jose> valorie: can you give me more details about that meeting in France?
[20:17] <jose> I wanna make sure they get their coference pack
[20:17] <jose> (if applicable)
[20:18] <valorie> jose: please ask agateau
[20:18] <valorie> it's his meeting
[20:18] <valorie> but that would be awesome
[20:18] <jose> oh ok :)
[20:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: http://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#.7Ekubuntu-members requirements adjusted
[20:34] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: tomorrow, all I want to do is watch GoT and go to sleep
[20:34] <ahoneybun_> valorie: ping me when the docs are being talked out please, got my girl over
[20:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: I am going out for drinks, might be late tomorrow :P
[20:35] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: added to my TODO
[20:35] <shadeslayer_> tomorrow!
[20:35] <apachelogger> always with the tomorrow!
[20:35] <shadeslayer_> dude, late for you means 10 AM
[20:35] <shadeslayer_> :P
[20:35] <shadeslayer_> you know what time I get up right ? :P
[20:35] <valorie> too late, ahoneybun_
[20:36] <apachelogger> oh right
[20:36] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: always with the drinks
[20:36] <apachelogger> you slacker
[20:36] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrQhv1KWAg4
[20:36] <valorie> we did that a half hour ago
[20:36] <valorie> titanpad.com/rlEOZSMTV9
[20:36] <ahoneybun_> darn
[20:36] <shadeslayer_> psht, I ain't no slacker, I was fixing kio today
[20:47] <vgezer> it was my first meeting with u guys, was fun :). see u in the next ones. i have to go
[20:48] <yofel> *sigh*
[20:48] <yofel> why in the bloody hell does plasma take my keyboard focus everytime I get a notification *-.-
[20:54] <apachelogger> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kopete/view/head:/debian/changelog
[20:55] <apachelogger> changelog starts at 4.10
[20:55] <apachelogger> as in the split from kdenetwork the changelog was not carried over
[20:55] <apachelogger> so now I can't look up shit
[20:56] <yofel> well, just look up kdenetwork?
[20:56] <apachelogger> WHY
[20:56]  * apachelogger throws a keyboard
[20:57]  * yofel throws the keyboard back to jellyfish
[20:59] <shadeslayer_> :S
[21:00] <jellyfish> to the batcave!
[21:00]  * jellyfish out