[00:01] Is there anybody here who could help me with manual compiling and installing of openssl version 1.0.0f on ubuntu compiled before heartbleed vulnerability. I have read docs but am still unsuccessful "make: *** [install_docs] Error 255". Im just really stuck and annoyed after trying 2-3 days. === Guest23784 is now known as networkadmin [00:02] Any direction anyone can point me would be great "Guest23784" [00:07] networkadmin, it'd be helpful if you had provided us with more logs [00:07] the error's probably listed in those somewhere [00:07] Thanks, ill provide you with what I can get. sec [00:11] Im going to come back with as much details as I can later. All I have at the moment is this [00:11] cms.pod around line 457: Expected text after =item, not a number [00:11] cms.pod around line 461: Expected text after =item, not a number [00:11] cms.pod around line 465: Expected text after =item, not a number [00:11] cms.pod around line 470: Expected text after =item, not a number [00:11] cms.pod around line 474: Expected text after =item, not a number [00:11] POD document had syntax errors at /usr/bin/pod2man line 71. [00:11] make: *** [install_docs] Error 255 [00:12] !pastebin [00:12] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:15] Sorry, ill be sure not to do that again. Before I go and investigate this a little more, since compiling openssl requires perl, should I be concerned about perl setting locale errors? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7449955/ [00:21] Okay, we finally got the command in, and update-manager-core is latest version. [00:21] But apt doesn't see a do-release-upgrade. [00:21] Direct command says no new release found. [00:41] Can anyone tell me how to get my Terminals to have the full set of control buttons, like full page, minimize, disappear? All I have is the x button now for deletion. [00:41] apt-get purge desktop [00:41] to remove it [00:42] then install again [00:43] Ok. I'll try that. [00:46] Can anyone tell me what the command is to get a full list of --config options for the present machine for update-alternativers --config? [01:08] Can anyone tell me what the command is to get a full list of --config options for the present machine for update-alternativers --config? === jml_ is now known as jml === med is now known as medberry [01:23] is there no minidlna package in the repos? [01:30] DefunctProcessZZ: there used to be, looks like it was synced from debian and debian has since dropped it from testing, so it never made it over for 14.04 [01:30] https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=minidlna [01:32] issues here: http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/minidlna.html === negronjl-afk is now known as negronjl [01:38] pleia2: ty [01:39] DefunctProcessZZ: sure thing, I use it as well so that's good to know === jrgifford__ is now known as jrgifford === dasjoe_ is now known as dasjoe === broder_ is now known as broder === Tribaal_ is now known as Tribaal === kaydo_ is now known as kaydo === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 === geowany_ is now known as geowany === pHcF_ is now known as pHcF [04:43] hey! :) [04:43] someone knows if there is a all-in-one openstack install other than devstack ? [05:03] is there anythign similar to fbsd jails in ubuntu ? [05:03] something that isn't just a chroot [05:03] Macer: lxc https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html [05:04] oh. [05:04] sarnold: awesome thanks [05:04] Macer: this may be a nicer introduction: https://www.stgraber.org/2013/12/20/lxc-1-0-blog-post-series/ [05:04] that's great :) appreciate it === veebull is now known as veebull_away === ovidiu-florin_ is now known as ovidiu-florin === rodarvus` is now known as rodarvus [07:00] Good morning. [10:50] morning [10:53] Hey pmatulis [12:37] Hello. Curious if anyone has seen this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1316320 [12:37] Launchpad bug 1316320 in unity "Screen Lock does not prompt for password" [Undecided,New] [12:38] nope, works for me [12:39] I'm thinking perhaps because the ubuntu server does not have unity desktop installed, the thick client is failing to start the process(es) on the terminal server to support the LDM session controls. [12:40] it seems like almost all processes run locally on a thick/fat client... However, since users are authenticated on the terminal server, I'm trying to understand how the client image is supposed to authenticate users when the screen locks, etc. Anyone know where these logs are? [12:40] (for LTSP clients) [12:51] Hi all. I have a 64 bit server 14.04 updated. I need ssh login as root. I already edited sshd_config with 'PermitRootLogin yes' but nothing is changed ,since i have always 'acces denied' trying to login from a putty client on win7 machine on the same lan network [12:52] gigirock: is there anything in /var/log/syslog ? [12:52] sorry, /var/log/auth.log [12:57] ..mmmmh meeting [13:28] hi. i have a number of computers on which i've noticed that i can never get /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail higher than 4067. i'm wondering how i might be able to figure out why this is [13:29] the symptom is that, when using haveged with -w 4096, haveged ends up consuming 100% cpu [13:32] hmm, the kernel only has 4k entropy buffer [13:32] so >4000 is basically 100% full [13:33] ah, interesting. [13:33] normally, I just shoot for 2k full [13:33] yeah. i was just playing around, experimenting [13:35] where is there documentation of the kernel's entropy buffer, specifically its size? [13:36] hey guys, im trying to figure out how to rename files in bulk to take out “pt “ any ideas on where to start [13:37] bitbyte_: man rename [13:37] cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/poolsize says 4096 here [13:37] "The read-only file entropy_avail gives the available entropy. Normally, this will be 4096 (bits), a full entropy pool." [13:37] "The file poolsize gives the size of the entropy pool." [14:33] Hi all ! I want tu mkfs.btrfs a block device but I get "Device or resource busy" [14:33] the device isn't mounted, lsof doesn't see any open files on the device [14:33] the device is for now an ext3 and was mounted , the only thing I find is a kernel thread named [jbd2/xvdb-8] [14:34] is it the culprit process for the device being busy ? how do I stop it ? [14:40] is it part of an mdraid or anything like that? [14:42] ok what is the fastest way to transfer a file between two machines, that isn't painful to set up? I have a 40 gigabit network but my usual transfer methods like scp, wget, even netcat are CPU bound due to being single threaded [14:42] so far nfs is the winner, believe it or not, but it is annoying to go through that when I just want scp [14:44] heh? [14:45] well, ya, nfs should be the fastest, expecially if you support nfs/rdma [14:45] hi, i have two nics in my server pc: eth0 and eth1. i have only configured eth1 in "etc/network/interfaces", however, i get my ip and i-net access always from eth0! how is that possible? [14:45] other options is ssh+hpa [14:45] BLZbubba, and did you properly tune your tcp stack at both ends? [14:47] BLZbubba: that's a good question. I imagine something like netcat that can use sendfile(2) would be the fastest. I don't know of any such tool, though. [14:47] Sounds like it could be a useful addition to socat. [14:48] patdk-wk: yeah it works pretty well with things like iperf and nfs [14:48] time to google for socat [14:48] socat is sort of like a multilingual netcat on steroids. [14:53] tomixxx7: Probably because you still have the stanzas in there like "auto eth0" and possibly "iface eth0 inet dhcp" [14:54] genii: no, definity not. i have only configured "auto eth1 \n iface eth1 inet static ... " [14:54] genii: now i have removed the cable from eth0 and now everythings works fine with eth1 [15:04] genii: strange, not? ^^ [15:05] tomixxx7: It's unusual, yes. [15:08] I am trying to configure a bond on my 12.04 server [15:08] i'm using this config : http://pastie.org/9168848 but it doesn't seem to work [15:08] any hints on where i am going wrong? === tgm4883_ is now known as tgm4883 === GeekBlogTV_ is now known as basedgeek [15:23] DenBeiren, bond-slaves none [15:24] on the last line? [15:24] I guess [15:25] but as the whole thing is commented out, not likely to work [15:25] i know,.. but i have two scenario's in my conf file,.. one is failsafe, one is testing bond :-) [15:32] patdk-wk: tried and restarting network [15:33] patdk-wk: works!! [15:33] thanks [15:52] lutostag: fancy taking a look at bug 1318660? Seems to me it might be a good bug to get started with maas packaging. [15:52] Launchpad bug 1318660 in maas "trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apiclient/__init__.py', which is also in package python-googleapi 1.2-2" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1318660 [15:53] rbasak: sure thing [15:54] Thanks! === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm === guampa_ is now known as guampa [17:05] Hello [17:06] I have just aquired a HP microserver g7 nl54 [17:06] and i was wondering if ubuntu 12.04 server would work on it? [17:06] Also HP seems to provide some BIOS update [17:06] http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/template.PAGE/public/psi/swdDetails/?sp4ts.oid=5336618&spf_p.tpst=swdMain&spf_p.prp_swdMain=wsrp-navigationalState%3Didx%253D4%257CswItem%253DMTX_57720d956df94dfcbaa0e28256%257CswEnvOID%253D4168%257CitemLocale%253D%257CswLang%253D%257Cmode%253D4%257Caction%253DdriverDocument&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.v [17:06] ignette.cachetoken [17:07] It seems to only fix something related to windows server, so i woudnt be needing that right?? [17:08] heh, I've already visited a newegg.com page about that little machine. probably one of my pals bought one to run ubuntu on it. looks promising. [17:13] So yay? [17:13] I say one forum post saying it runs so i am just curios [17:13] probably yay :) if 12.04 LTS doesn't work 14.04 LTS really should work. [17:14] what about 12.10 [17:14] ? [17:14] Is it even out? [17:14] 12.04 is slightly complicated by the different point releases that have been made since initial release, those include newer hardware enablement kernels; the first 12.04 images didn't support secure-boot systems, but newer ones should.. [17:14] zop_: 12.10 has only supported for another four days === a1berto_ is now known as a1berto [17:15] me english good :) [17:15] zop_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [17:15] Oh wow [17:15] Thanks for that! [17:15] So wait [17:15] How do i find out if my box has secure boot? [17:16] your best choices are 12.04 if you're relatively conservative or 14.04 if you're a slight touch more adventurous or don't want to upgrade again in another two years.. :) hehe [17:16] zop_: probably it'll be an option in the bios that you can turn on or off; not all systems let you turn it off, so those may not put it in the bios.. [17:16] when ubuntu says a system restart is required, are the kernel updates that necessitate that usually security related? [17:17] Ok thanks [17:17] I would love to install libre boot on it [17:17] since i dont trust whats in there [17:20] fridaynext: I suspect every kernel update includes security updates, but I'm not 100% positive of that. of course different bugs have different chances of exploitability, but iirc the most recent kernel includes an update for a vulnerability with an exploit already available [17:20] thanks sarnold. [17:21] Just wondering when the best time is to reboot my server, since most of the sites on it get pretty good traffic, especially at night. [17:21] and it seems there are more and more kernel updates lately. [17:21] While on topic, would it be possible to install 12.04, on a fresh box, with no screen? [17:21] i.e: do the actuall install headless? [17:22] zop_: does that little machine do someting like integrated lights out or some other mechanism to e.g. serial console or vnc to it? [17:22] The N54L does not come with ILO [17:22] zop_: there may be other options but I know even less about those... [17:22] It's an optional PCI(e?)-card [17:22] i dont think so [17:22] fridaynext: best would be to have multiple machines you could update in a rolling fashion.. [17:22] zop_: Why do you want to install 12.04 when 14.04 has been released by now? :) [17:22] So i am best of just sticking a cable in it and doing it by screen i guesss [17:23] sarnold your best choices are 12.04 if you're relatively conservative or 14.04 if you're a slight touch more adventurous or don't want to upgrade again in another two years..hehe [17:23] zop_: I have had good success with my N54L, as a matter of fact I'm working on it right now [17:23] sarnold: interesting. [17:23] Hey [17:23] Because of that [17:23] Did you do the BIOS update? [17:23] The one on the HP website [17:24] Yes, I applied that update [17:24] The one that needs to go to a USB key yes? [17:24] Also are you using 32 bit or 64 bit? [17:24] All HP BIOS updates I did installed from a USB key, yes [17:25] zop_: I'm running a 64 bit 14.04 on a ZFS / on it, I've got 4 GB RAM in the box [17:25] Do you know what the bios update actually fixes? [17:25] yes i am sticking 8GB in it [17:25] dasjoe: zfs / ? ooooo [17:25] so i should go with 64 bit? [17:27] zop_: yeah, 64bit is probably the best choice these days, it enables so many cool CPU features that the slight size increase of pointers is usually outweighed by better performance all around [17:27] Also why would i want ZFS? Never heard about it, just reading about it now [17:27] Ok [17:27] zop_: there's no reason not to use 64 bit software on machines which support it [17:27] btw, this is basically going to be a torrent/media box [17:27] download stuff and serve it up to my raspebery pi [17:27] pis* [17:28] zop_: ZFS is a "next-generation" file system with integrated checksums and other nice stuff. I've been using it for a while, but you're probably better off with a normal Ubuntu Server installation, as in / as ext4 [17:28] ahh yes [17:28] zop_: zfs helps protect against bit rot and dead drives by providing redundancy and checksumming, and because it is a copy-on-write filesystem it can cheaply provide snapshots and sending and receiving filesystem updates. it's pretty cool stuff, but since it is an add-on module for linux, it isn't easy to use it for root filesystems [17:29] Yes i am just reading about, sounds nice! i think il skip it for this box [17:29] hey dasjoe does 14.04 require any tweaking or fixing on the microserver? [17:30] zop_: no, a plain install worked out of the box [17:31] Hello sorry my conection got reset [17:31] zop__: you may have missed ths: < dasjoe> zop_: no, a plain install worked out of the box [17:31] Thx! [17:31] sweet! [17:31] So is there any reason why i shouldnt use 14.04? [17:32] zop__: I intend on using zfs "soon" but I don't think I'll go to the effort of using it for the root filesystem; I'll just use it for a pile of storage mounted after the system is up and running. it isn't as awesome as it could be but it feels like it'll be far easier to maintain over the years. [17:32] Be aware that i have been using linux not for very long :( [17:32] zop_: if you want to play with ZFS: install Ubuntu 12.04 or, better, 14.04 on a USB stick that's plugged into the on-board slot and use ZFS on your data disks [17:32] zop__: I'd start with 14.04 myself; it's newer and nicer :) [17:32] Does it have all that amazon/canonical crap tho? [17:32] zop__: what's that? [17:32] Something about sending your searches out? [17:33] sarnold: we're in #zfsonlinux if you need any help or want to discuss about that ;) [17:33] zop__: you can turn off the internet searches if you wish -- and as a server user, you wouldn't see it anyhow :) [17:33] http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-disable-amazonproduct.html [17:33] dasjoe: oh thanks for the reminder :) my pandaboard died and I forgot to re-join the zfs channels in my laptop's irssi config... [17:33] Ugh what a shame that Ubuntu sold out :( [17:34] Is the crapeware present in the 12.04 also? [17:34] sarnold: oh right, I thought I knew your nickname [17:34] dasjoe: and likewish I figured I only knew you from here. go figure. :) [17:35] zop__: Ubuntu has not "sold out" any more than Mozilla did. You can easily deactivate the amazon stuff. Also, I'd go for a pure server installation, so there wouldn#t be a GUI anyways [17:36] Yes i know about Mozilla (Moving away from that too, what a shame). Yes i going to go for a v light GUI anyways [17:36] Is it easy to remove the one there is an install another one? [17:36] zop__: imho the idea behind a 'smart search' button is pretty cool, but the first release should have shipped with ten search providers rather than just amazon. it'd have been harder to hate a 'search internet' button.. :) [17:37] Yeah, no sorry i think its crap and i dont know why you would ever want something integrated like that. [17:38] Hey dasjoe, what did you choose from here [17:38] http://h20566.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/public/psi/swdHome/?sp4ts.oid=4310887 [17:38] ? [17:38] zop__: if you do put a gui on you can easily install new ones; e.g. apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop or apt-get install kde-standard or apt-get install lxde or whatever you want [17:38] Yes lxde is what i was after [17:38] Simple and light [17:39] or just 'apt-get install ion3' or dwm or whatever if you don't even want the overhead of a "desktop environment" [17:40] What do you mean by overhead? [17:40] zop__: you could just use Xubuntu's installation medium if you wanted Xubuntu. Or Lubuntu's iso. But that's not really "Ubuntu Server", which names a very specific installation medium [17:40] zop__: well, apple's "siri" and google's "google now" are quite popular features :) so I'm not surprised we're offering something similar but much more configurable -- users can turn on or off individual search backends or write their own. try that with siri or google now :) [17:40] zop__: I've used a direct link, this one http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib2/software1/pubsw-windows/p1657370250/v93269/SP64420.exe [17:40] Thanks! === beliq_ is now known as beliq [17:42] Well, all i am trying to do is download torrents, do some renaming (bash scrypts+chron), server the movies to two raspery pies [17:42] Is an ubuntu server 14.04 install excessive then? [17:43] I am also thinking of setting up and FTP or HTTP transfer, so friends/familly can log in and download (or stream??) what they want [17:43] What do you think? [17:43] Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place for this, if not please forgive me, but do any of you guys have a recommendation for a web based administration type software of ubuntu server? [17:43] zop__: no, it's just an installation that's tailored to server tasks [17:44] zop__: the 'server' install will be nice and small, anything else will be extraneous to server tasks :) but from any of the installers you can get to more or less identical outputs, it's just a matter of apt-get installing or apt-get purging different packages. [17:44] zop__: Avoid FTP. it's horrible. httpd is alright, and if you want to allow people to upload to you, I'd recommend using sftp instead. [17:45] No on upload just download [17:45] sudormrf: most seem to be a vector for remote exploits. I'd avoid them all. [17:45] Yes i am still looking at my options atm [17:45] zop__: cool, that's easier. :) apache or nginx for simple, owncloud if you want something fancier.. [17:45] sarnold, suppose said server was not exposed to the internets? [17:46] sudormrf: that helps :) [17:46] sarnold, lol. so suggestions for something that will do this? I don't mind using the CLI, but for simple tasks it is easier to just click a link than ssh in issue commands. [17:47] sudormrf: do you have ssh keys and ssh-agent configured? that might make using ssh less distasteful.. [17:47] sudormrf: that depends on what you want to do from the web, I'd not use one at all but if you absolutely must use one: check out Zentyal or Webmin [17:48] sudormrf: sorry, no suggestions -- my distaste is strong enough I never looked at their actual merits :) [17:48] dasjoe, looking at zentyal now. I hear webmin isn't supported :). [17:48] sarnold, no worries :). [17:48] this is just a home media server. so not really doing a whole lot with it [17:49] sudormrf: Zentyal comes as a complete package, though. So you're (probably) better off doing a fresh install using their installer (which is based on 13.10, as of now) [17:49] I think i am going to go with 14.04 Ubuntu [17:50] and then remove the stuff i dont need and install lxde [17:50] dasjoe, yeah that is what it was looking like. Which I kind of want to avoid. oh well :). [17:50] Just because i have never used Lubuntu and "Unlike Ubuntu, Lubuntu 12.04 is not a LTS, this version will be supported for 18 months. However, a lot of work has been done to improve the stability of the system" [17:52] zop__: you could install a normal Ubuntu Server, then use tasksel to add Lubuntu or Xubuntu [17:53] That is news to be, i think i have some more reading to do :/ [17:53] never hread of tasksel [17:53] Looks neat tho [17:54] zop__: it's just a nice helper to install some packages [17:55] So i would just do a regular server install and then use tasklet to customise it? [17:55] dasjoe, with Zentyal you can install normal ubuntu packages, right? [17:55] Does it matter that Lubuntu only goes up 12.04 [17:55] sudormrf: yes, it's based on a normal Ubuntu [17:55] zop__: Lubuntu goes up to 14.04 [17:55] Oh [17:56] what can i use, thats lightweight, to fire off emails form the command line? the apt pkg `mail-utils` seems to install everything until the sun [17:56] Thanks! [17:56] Well i am gonna start by doing that BIOS upgrade, let see how that goes :) [17:57] Is it littarly: Make the USB, plug in and turn on and go threw the options? [17:57] for the BIOS upgrade that is [17:57] dasjoe, cool. I am going to toss it in to a VM and see how I like it. [17:57] what happened to just `mail -s foo bar@example.com` [17:59] xibalba: 'mail' requires a MTA such as postfix or exim or sendmail to be installed and properly configured; if you don't have that yet, it will look like the entire world is being installed.. [17:59] i have other boxes already running my MTAs, I dont need another MTA on this box :/ [17:59] zop__: the BIOS update is even simpler. Run their installer to put it on a USB stick, plug it into the N54L, start it and wait until it's completed [17:59] Ok thanks! [17:59] i just stumbled on `sendemail` that may be a suitable fit [18:00] Well i am off to try it out, thakns for the help and patience! [18:00] peace! [18:00] xibalba: your MTA on that machine may just hand off to the other mcahine.. [18:00] zop__: have fun :) [18:00] yes, but its uncessary [18:01] oh nice, sendemail on my system didn't drag in any other dependencies [18:02] this is sufficient, root@sh:/var/log# sendemail -f reza@lethalnetworks.com -t reza@lethalnetworks.com -u foo -m bar -s zcs [18:02] xibalba: check out nullmailer [18:02] dasjoe, cool i'll take a gander [18:13] Hey dasjoe [18:14] I always get bad volume label when i try and use the utility to make the USB bios thingy? any ideas? [18:14] I renamed it already, the usb is formated to a primary partition in FAT32 [18:14] zop__: use a fresh USB stick? It'll delete all data [18:14] dasjoe, thanks. think i'm going to stick w/the `sendemail` pkg [18:14] Yeah i did [18:15] zop__: Let HP's software handle the stick. Remove the stick's partition table, plug it into your Windows box and give it to HP's tool? Iirc that's what I did [18:16] dasjoe, you work as an IT Admin? [18:17] xibalba: yes, you could say that [18:18] the domain you're coming from is a good organization [18:19] I still get bad volume label :s [18:23] any ideas? [18:24] Changed USB device stiill getting bad volume label [18:25] zop_: are there any data on the thing? [18:26] The first one i cleared it [18:26] the second one there was stuff [18:27] hi all how do I enable the mod_proxy for apache2 ? I do no see it in mods-aviable [18:28] maybe the pkg wasn't installed [18:28] ugh tried NTFS nothing still [18:30] zop_ as far as it got assigned a device you could try overwriting it with zeroes or random [18:30] huh? [18:30] zop_ like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourusbstick [18:30] I am on windows atm musing minitool partition [18:30] oh ok [18:30] didn't see that [18:30] Tazmain: "a2enmod proxy" should work [18:31] I can boot from my linux but i rather not imo [18:31] what do you want to do with your stick? [18:31] Trying to install the BIOS upgrade utilitx provided by HP for my G7 microserver [18:31] oh ok [18:31] hm [18:32] dasjoe, I keep getting no protocol handle was valid. if you are using a DSO version of Mod_proxy make sure the proxy submodules are included. [18:33] Tazmain: a2enmod proxy_http? [18:33] dasjoe, did that as well [18:33] zop_: try to create the filesystem from linux after doing a wee bit of dd'ing [18:34] Is there no way to do it under windows? i dont really trustmyself on it lol [18:35] hm [18:35] Tazmain: do you need to apt-get install a new package for it? [18:35] zop_: from linux, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdev bs=1M count=1k # that'll nuke the fs from the stick [18:35] sarnold, cant find that package [18:35] zop_: then mkfs -t vfat -n yourlabel /dev/yourdev [18:36] No need to mkfs, HP's tool will do that [18:36] Tazmain: ah, sure enough the mod_proxy_*.so files are in apache2-bin .. sorry [18:36] maybe you could use something like hdshredder to zero it zop_ [18:37] this is available for windows too [18:37] or bootable as standalone [18:38] dasjoe: just wondered if linux and HP disagreed on something, and therefore suggested making the fs from linux [18:39] RoyK: he wants to flash a new BIOS, and he's on Windows right now. HP supplies BIOS updates as windows binaries which write FreeDOS and their flashing tools to a USB stick [18:41] dasjoe: ah - missed that [18:42] can't most bioses read from usb sticks directly these days? [18:43] heh I knew IBM Server which you had to boot from a cd and then supply bios updates on a stick to it xD [18:44] and those donÄt have only one bios to update [18:44] xD [18:44] having to use DOS in 2014 is somewhat wierd :P [18:45] ack [18:45] I'm sure any day now they'll start sending along disk images of a linux 1.2.13-based system to do their firmware updates :) [18:46] IBM and HP do use linux on their update cds [18:46] you boot from those and get an X gui :D [18:47] oo :) === stoned is now known as STFU_Donny === STFU_Donny is now known as Nyle === nszceta_ is now known as nszceta [18:58] sarnold: [offtopic] my first linux was 1.1.59, slackware 2.1 IIRC. Not *very* stable ;) [18:58] RoyK: nice! :D [18:58] mine was a slackware with kernel 1.0 [18:59] but already ELF [18:59] *g* [18:59] heh, that was my first thought, you guys probably saw the ELF transistion; it was well underway by the time I joined up [19:02] One of my new boards has a feature in the bios to go online, download the latest one, and install it [19:02] No OS or media required [19:05] You can also use local media if desired, really well thought out design [19:14] Still getting the damn bad volume [19:14] tried dd tried making it NTFS, FAT32 nothing [19:14] anyone got any ideas? === Nyle is now known as stoned === stephank_ is now known as stephank [20:41] cabars [20:41] Hey, anyone have had experience with snort ? [20:44] i set it up once a few years ago === _KaszpiR___ is now known as _KaszpiR_ [21:26] zop_: fat16? [21:26] qman__: dang that does sound convenient :) [21:26] qman__: .. and a bit scary [21:26] huh? [21:26] oh [21:26] sorry [21:26] zop_: you're not having success with fat32 or ntfs, maybe fat16 would work okay? [21:26] dasjoe gave me an image i got it working [21:27] cool! :) [21:27] wel i have not tried it just yet [21:27] no VGA cable.... [21:27] so stupid [21:27] While on topic [21:27] I was looking for a GPU to stick inside [21:27] So far everything seems to point to [21:27] http://www.amazon.fr/XFX-HD5450-graphique-G-DDR3-PCI-Express/dp/B004TCM634/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399926758&sr=8-1&keywords=XFX+5450 [21:28] Any thoughts/reccomendation? It has to be kind of cheap, supported, and small ish to fit inside [21:28] your in the wrong channel? [21:29] we don't know about video cards in here [21:30] though, I will say, I use several of these [21:30] http://www.amazon.fr/Gainward-GeForce-graphique-Nvidia-Express/dp/B004UQNF52/ref=pd_sim_sbs_computers_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=0KF33982S2PVTC0XPX5D [21:30] how cheap and what features [21:30] i just got a 650 gtx for $100 and it rocks [21:30] htpc has a 210 which is fine for vdpau [21:31] yuk, vdpau [21:31] compared to what? [21:31] cpu based decode [21:32] vdpau has lots of limits, and if the video stream isn't perfect, well, like atsc [21:33] i have been using vdpau for a long time and it works very well [21:33] I used it for a week or two, went back to cpu only decode [21:33] also don't think vdpau supports 10bit yet [21:33] no way my cpu could decode h264 1080p [21:34] why? it's not that hard [21:34] atom 330 [21:38] I'm currently using core2duo's [21:38] but they will probably get upgraded soon [21:56] no is my card compatible with ubuntu? [22:02] wow. lxc is awesome [22:03] it is === Guegs__ is now known as Guegs [23:34] whats lxc [23:36] xibalba: lxc is a lightweight linux containers mechanism, similar to solaris zones, fbsd jails, openvz or linux-vservers [23:36] ah, i know jails [23:36] is it akin to docker? [23:37] xibalba: I haven't looked much into docker, sorry [23:37] I believe docker does use some of the same underlying linux systemcalls though [23:37] are you near okalahoma city sarnold ? [23:38] but I don't know if docker works above lxc or has no relationship to lxc.. hehe [23:38] xibalba: no, near portland oregon [23:38] ah man, one of the places i want to visit [23:39] how's the tech industry up there? plenty of jobs? [23:39] when you do, check out multnomah falls :) [23:39] h o m g [23:39] wow [23:39] ty, book marked that [23:39] xibalba: portland feels like a center of linux, between ibm and intel out here there's a large linux focus. iirc puppetlabs is also in portland, and ora (often? always?) hosts their Open Source conference here [23:40] im in hot sandy eggo [23:40] haha [23:40] 92F now [23:40] the land of always-nice weather? :) [23:40] ouch [23:40] not so nice [23:41] nice most of the time [23:42] need more rain [23:42] the closer you get to the coast the nicer it is [23:43] ahhh if it's rain you want.. :) (actually, this winter had surprisingly long stretches of wonderful weather; normally november-june is all rain.)