[02:09] <rick_h_> man, this MUG talk is going to be a giant can of wing-it and meandering. be prepared!
[02:09] <_stink_> by now you can pull that off, right?
[02:09] <rick_h_> heh, the hard part is having it make sense
[02:09] <rick_h_> I can wonder all over the globe
[02:10] <rick_h_> you get what you pay for I guess :P
[02:13] <rick_h_> cmaloney: you're not supposed to look yet :P
[02:13] <rick_h_> cmaloney: it's because I know you'll ask about the slides later
[02:33] <cmaloney> heh. :)
[02:34] <cmaloney> As opposed to my talk which will be me showing what games don't work on my laptop. :)
[02:34] <rick_h_> hah
[02:34] <rick_h_> I should bring one of these NUC's down
[02:34] <rick_h_> they're supposed to do 4k
[02:34] <cmaloney> Do they run Steam?
[02:35] <rick_h_> http://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1x6o5m/intel_nuc_as_steam_inhome_streaming_box/
[02:35] <rick_h_> yea, looks like it
[02:35] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/fKj59D - Too Many Requests
[02:35] <cmaloney> That sounds like a great project ... for next month. :)
[02:35] <rick_h_> heh, well RMA'ing these to get slower ones :(
[02:35] <cmaloney> Seriously?
[02:35] <rick_h_> yea
[02:35] <cmaloney> How does that work?
[02:36] <rick_h_> the "higher end" models don't have the IPMI-like service from intel I need for lights out management
[02:36] <cmaloney> Oh, lovely.
[02:37] <rick_h_> yea, oh well
[02:37] <rick_h_> lesson learned
[02:37] <rick_h_> they are cool little boxes
[02:37] <cmaloney> yeah, they look pretty sweet and fascinating
[02:37] <rick_h_> if anyone needs a normal use desktop I'd highly recommend one with a vesa mount onthe back of a monitor
[02:38] <cmaloney> That good eh?
[02:38] <rick_h_> yea, they seem cool and the one I've got should be snappy
[02:39] <rick_h_> like a powerful laptop in a box and you can upgrade ram/HD (msata ssd and laptop 204 pin ram)
[10:30] <cmaloney> morning
[10:30] <rick_h_> morning
[10:31] <cmaloney> are we having fun yet?
[10:32] <rick_h_> not yet
[10:32] <rick_h_> last day before demo
[10:45] <cmaloney> woo woo
[11:55] <brousch> rick_h_: What demo?
[11:56] <rick_h_> brousch: openstack developer summit is today, Mark S has a demo/keynote tomorrow
[11:59] <brousch> You are making Mark S's demo?
[11:59] <rick_h_> a small part of it
[12:00] <rick_h_> so when I show up to give my talk a MUG tomorrow night drunk and exhausted you all know why :P
[12:01] <brousch> If your part fails, will he smite you from his orbiting laser weapon?
[12:01] <cmaloney> I used to wonder why Canonical employees had a fondness for alcohol...
[12:01] <cmaloney> now I know why. ;)
[12:01] <rick_h_> probably, though at this point I'm not sure I'd care
[12:04] <cmaloney> That which does not smite thee makes thee stronger
[13:18] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoh
[13:18] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[13:18] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - The Collapse by Flesh Field on Strain
[13:18] <cmaloney> This band should have done so much more.
[14:03] <brousch> Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness is 25 years old. Damn I'm getting old
[14:13] <cmaloney> Michael Jackson's Thriller is 32 years old.
[14:13] <cmaloney> You're welcome. :)
[14:14] <rick_h_> diaf
[14:15] <cmaloney> http://www.amazon.com/Why-Should-Fire-Nickel-Creek/dp/B0009ML2BU
[14:15] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/3XCF8j - Amazon.com: Why Should the Fire Die: Music
[14:15] <cmaloney> (Unfortunately nobody has an album called "Die in a Fire".
[14:15] <cmaloney> I see this as a huge oversight.
[14:15] <brousch> That seems impossible
[14:16] <cmaloney> Check my work
[14:18] <cmaloney> dyingscene.com/news/hello-creepy-spider-rock-announce-new-album-i-dont-wanna-die-in-a-fire-stream-new-song-2/
[14:18] <cmaloney> http://dyingscene.com/news/hello-creepy-spider-rock-announce-new-album-i-dont-wanna-die-in-a-fire-stream-new-song-2/
[14:18] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/KVgX3D - Hello Creepy Spider (rock) announce new album “I Don’t Wanna Die In A Fire”, stream new song
[14:18] <cmaloney> Apparently that releases today. :)
[14:19] <cmaloney> Here we go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wTnRL7ilPU
[14:19] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/FQwSMY - I Voted for Kodos - Please Die in a Fire - YouTube
[14:19] <cmaloney> And it's Ska too.
[14:43] <cmaloney> Storms on their way. Wheee
[14:49] <cmaloney> God, Fedex Smartpost is likely the slowest thing out there for shipping
[15:41] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[15:41] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Slow Cascade by Stromkern on Light it Up
[15:41] <cmaloney> I think I like my industrial music to sound like Cylons. :)
[15:42] <cmaloney> (Old school cylons, none of this replicant shit)
[17:21] <rick_h_> I think it's time to purchase a punching bag
[17:22]  * brousch thinks about spousal or child abuse jokes and decides not to
[17:23] <cmaloney> rick_h_: That bad eh?
[17:24] <cmaloney> rick_h_: This is why I play drums. :)
[17:24] <rick_h_> So the one guy I managed to hire, get to vegas on short notice. The one guy to be my new team...his old company is possibly getting bought which would require him to go back to work
[17:24] <brousch> require?
[17:24] <cmaloney> da fuq?
[17:25] <rick_h_> one guy bailed after verbally agreeing, this guy after freaking starting
[17:25] <rick_h_> I mean, how hard should it be to find 5 people to work on a project?!
[17:25] <cmaloney> What the hell was he working for? Beats? :)
[17:25] <rick_h_> and today's not a good day for this. Overworked, undersleep, not had a weekend sans work for 3 in a row...grrrrrrr
[17:25] <rick_h_> some dev company that he's part owner of
[17:26] <brousch> ah
[17:26] <rick_h_> he was basically putting himeself on sabattical to work for us
[17:26] <rick_h_> so if they get bought, they want him there for xxxx years after getting bought, etc
[17:26] <cmaloney> Ah, divesting.
[17:27] <rick_h_> it's not final "they just sent an offer, sorry, wanted to give you a heads up"
[17:27] <cmaloney> Welcome to management
[17:27] <rick_h_> @!$#@!@!$ this job is 10x harder that it seems it should need to be.
[17:27] <brousch> Offer moar money?
[17:27] <rick_h_> heh, than getting his company bought? I don't think that's it.
[17:28] <brousch> Have Canonical buy them!
[17:28] <cmaloney> yeah, though that's a new one.
[17:28] <cmaloney> "Can't come in to work today. Company is getting bought out."
[17:32] <cmaloney> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/11/world/asia/china-says-goodbye-in-the-key-of-g-kenny-g.html?_r=3
[17:32] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/Ejo9fA - China Says Goodbye in the Key of G: Kenny G - NYTimes.com
[17:32] <cmaloney> I think this is the definition of hell
[17:53] <rick_h_> cmaloney: was going to share about talking at MUG but the page looks out of date.
[17:53] <rick_h_> oh, I can look in past meetings, nvm
[17:55] <cmaloney> fsck
[17:56] <cmaloney> I goofed
[17:56] <cmaloney> Updated
[18:04] <rick_h_> all good, thanks
[18:04] <cmaloney> np
[18:05] <cmaloney> I really, really hate Fedex
[18:06] <cmaloney> Estimated delivery went from Friday to Tuesday to Wednesday
[18:06] <rick_h_> ouch
[18:06] <cmaloney> Friday this week, so it went down
[18:06] <rick_h_> oh, well yay?
[18:07] <cmaloney> I've traded with this guy before so I know that Fedex is junk but it is a pain in the ass.
[18:07] <cmaloney> Sad thig is it's in belleville MI
[18:07] <cmaloney> I could drive there. :)
[18:08] <cmaloney> But I'm sure the reason it'll take another day is because fedex will hand-off to the post office or some other nonsense.
[18:08] <cmaloney> unless there's a truck in the area.
[18:48] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: so juju gui is obviously an open source project, but your team is payed to work on it. i understand that part. but do you have anybody NOT working for canonical that work on it? Just interested to see it up on github. figured it would be launchpad or something like that
[18:48] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: we're the first juju project on github
[18:49] <rick_h_> we've had some interns from cisco hack on things
[18:49] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: no one not paid currently works on it, but hacking on OSS project backed by a commercial company makes for strange things
[18:49] <mrgoodcat> it just struck me that it was a github project
[18:50] <mrgoodcat> made me question my assumption that it was a canonical controlled project
[18:50] <mrgoodcat> which was obviously a correct assumption
[18:51] <rick_h_> well, it's open source, anyone can hack on it
[18:51] <mrgoodcat> right i figured that much
[18:51] <mrgoodcat> controlled was probably the wrong word
[18:52] <rick_h_> yea, I mean there's just not a lot of incentive for outsiders to work on it atm.
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> but maybe not. i don't think anybody ouside of canonical would be able to too strongly sway the direction of the project unless they had a completely amazing idea that blew everyone away
[18:52] <rick_h_> we all hope one day someone that uses it and cares about juju helps work on something interesting
[18:57] <cmaloney> It's OSS in the sense that the code is freely available and being hacked in in the open
[18:57] <cmaloney> but it seems that most projects need a little while to build a community of outsiders.
[19:01] <mrgoodcat> yea. and juju gui isn't particularly well suited to get a big batch of people working on it from outside until companies start to depend on it. not a lot of individuals that need it outside of work
[20:42] <rick_h_> wahoo! I didn't set the energy use bar this month!
[20:43] <rick_h_> yay me
[20:44] <brousch> That's because you have been at conference all month :P
[20:44] <rick_h_> oh, good call
[20:44] <rick_h_> I should leave more often
[20:44] <rick_h_> "Hun, I have to go, it'll save on the electric bill"
[22:08] <cmaloney> rick_h_: hah
[23:17] <cmaloney> Evening
[23:18] <rick_h_> gah!
[23:40] <jrwren> beerops: OH: "MongoDB is like crack. It's easy to start, nearly impossible to get off of, and really expensive to maintain." #yolodb