[12:47] <belkinsa> valorie, you have a point there but what if the founder is not active within the Community anymore?
[14:37] <JanC> belkinsa: list owner & list moderator are 2 different things
[14:37] <belkinsa> Duh, they are.
[16:12] <Openlander> hi
[16:12] <belkinsa> Hello there.
[16:19] <Openlander> how long you use ubuntu?
[16:20] <belkinsa> Why you want to you?
[16:26] <Openlander> I want to ask your advice
[16:27] <belkinsa> Since 2009 and what advice do you need?
[16:34] <Openlander> Thanks for the answer.
[16:34] <Openlander> Which the last version of ubuntu would you recommend to use for country with non-english language?
[16:35] <belkinsa> I don't know, but you can ask in #ubuntu-locoteams, they might know.
[16:38] <Openlander> Can I ask you a personal question?
[16:38] <belkinsa> Sure, why not.
[16:40] <Openlander> You have a Russian first name. How long do you live in USA?
[16:40] <belkinsa> For 20 years.
[16:40] <belkinsa> I been here since 1993.
[16:42] <Openlander> oh! it's long ago
[16:42] <belkinsa> Indeed, it's worse when you are 2 and half when you move. You don't remember anything of your motherland.
[16:54] <Openlander> I imagine it. Your memory has it. But very deep inside. Maybe it show in sleep.
[16:55] <belkinsa> Perhaps it will.
[17:06] <Openlander> It's unusual. Only you answered me on this channel - the girl with a Russian name. It's unusual because I'm from Russia.
[17:07] <belkinsa> We had someone from Tula, Russia here maybe a month or two ago.
[17:11] <Openlander> I'm from Tomsk. It's in Siberia. And Siberia is one the regions of Russia.
[17:12] <belkinsa> I know that Siberia is a region of Russia.
[17:13] <belkinsa> Anyways, I might know the answer to your question. But it's more of a link to a site: http://ubuntu.ru/
[17:17] <belkinsa> You can also ask in this channel: #ubuntu-ru
[17:23] <Openlander> Yeah. Ofcourse. Simply I want get advice from experienced man.
[17:24] <belkinsa> I'm sorry that I can't help you but if you looked in the right direction, as in those two links, then you can find your answer.
[17:26] <Openlander> It's ok. You are right
[17:28] <Openlander> Do you work with ubuntu professionally or at home?
[17:31] <belkinsa> I don't.  I'm a biology major that uses Ubuntu because it's better than Windows and Mac.
[17:31] <belkinsa> And also I like the openness that it gives with software, OS, and other areas.
[17:32] <belkinsa> That's who I am: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/belkinsa
[17:34] <Openlander> mm.. It's interested
[17:43] <JanC> there used to be somebody from Novosibirsk in here in the past too
[17:45] <belkinsa> Openlander, mind if I PM you?
[17:48] <Openlander> I don't have account on twitter. I have account on mail.ru - http://my.mail.ru/mail/hubbards2/
[17:48] <Openlander> But there everything in the Russian
[17:49] <belkinsa> Ah, but what I meant by PMing is doing it here on IRC>
[17:49] <Openlander> Yeah. Novosibirsk is near by Tomsk
[17:52] <Mikaela> I think it's interesting how country is mother for some people and father to other people.
[17:53] <Mikaela> Oh, and thank you for reminding about Ubuntu Wiki. I wonder if I am still 17 years old boy there.
[17:53] <belkinsa> Hmm, fatherland...what counties call their land father?
[17:53] <Mikaela> At least Finland.
[17:54] <belkinsa> And not a problem, Mikaela.
[17:54] <belkinsa> Ah.
[17:54] <JanC> in German too
[17:55] <Mikaela> Oh, there is no gender mentioned in my Ubuntu Wiki page. But I seem to be 17 and "using Fedora at the moment". I last used Fedora year or so ago.
[17:55] <belkinsa> May I see your page, if you don't mind, Mikaela?
[17:55] <Mikaela> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/mkaysi
[17:55] <belkinsa> Thanks.
[17:56] <JanC> actually, fatherland is used in English too
[17:56] <JanC> and it's "patria" in latin
[17:56] <belkinsa> You have a nice start to that wiki page, Mikaela.
[17:57] <Mikaela> If I wrote anything else, I would talk too much and it has 404 error link, because I killed my GitHub pages last night and it goes to .com instead of .io and I am 18 and I am trans.
[17:58] <belkinsa> Ah, I see.
[17:59] <Mikaela> I removed multiple things last night.
[17:59] <Mikaela> And Ubuntu Wiki doesn't seem to want to let me login.
[18:00] <belkinsa> Do you have a LP account or just a Ubuntu One account?
[18:01] <Mikaela> Both, I think. Firefox let me in, I was trying to use Chrome.
[18:01] <Mikaela> "Last edited by mkaysi" while my Launchpad account has been mikaela for some time.
[18:02] <Mikaela> Oh, it didn't still go in. Both browsers get stuck on "Waiting for response from wiki.ubuntu.com..."
[18:02] <belkinsa> You may need to change your LP username and try to log in again.
[18:03] <Mikaela> Now.
[18:03] <belkinsa> Or the severs are slow
[18:03] <Mikaela> I don't want to have anything to do with mkaysi if I can avoid it.
[18:04] <Mikaela> It seems that Ubuntu Wiki throws me out when I try to modify that page.
[18:04] <belkinsa> Did you clear the cache?
[18:05] <Mikaela> From that button? I didn't.
[18:05] <Mikaela> Oh, now I am in. Thanks :)
[18:05] <Mikaela> And now I can even rename it. I probably even should rename it to not cause confusion with different LP and Wikipage.
[18:06] <belkinsa> Try to make a new page?
[18:13] <Mikaela> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mikaela now has my Twitter biography. I should probably type more, but I don't feel like it at the moment and I could only type negative things.
[18:13] <belkinsa> Cool.