[00:06] <nomorebugs> Guest23784:  thank you :)
[00:06] <K`zan> Hi folks, trying to connect my Kindle Fire HD to my ubu 12.04, installed gmtp but get: (gMTP:7813): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported - google no help, any suggestions very much appreciated!
[00:06] <networkadmin> No problem by the way, was guest32324
[00:07] <networkadmin> whatever that number was
[00:10] <doioche> Boa noite.
[00:11] <Dioche> Estou com uma dúvida sobre a particação Swap do Ubuntu 14.04
[00:12] <Dioche> Instalei o Gparted, formatei a particação de ativei.
[00:12] <Dioche> Agora ela está funcionando corretamente.
[00:12] <_blk> K`zan, is that gMTP package that you installed made for 12.04 or did you just grab anything? Looks like you either need to find one that works with 12.04 or recompile it yourself
[00:12] <Dioche> Porém sempre que desligo o notebook e ligo novamente ele desativa o swap.
[00:12] <K`zan> Still googling with no help so far, so many pages of issues with this and not one solution :-/.
[00:13] <Dioche> Tem como deixar ativo permanentemente?
[00:14] <_blk> Dioche, english or try #ubuntu-pt (if I got that right)
[00:14] <Dioche> Oh sorry
[00:14] <Dioche> well.
[00:15] <Dioche> I formated my hardisk, and designed a linux-swap
[00:15] <Dioche> When i on my laptop that partition is disable.
[00:16] <Dioche> I install a gparted and formated again that partition and enable.
[00:17] <heru-htl> K`zan: you need to recompile such application.
[00:17] <Dioche> But when i off my laptop and on again the patition is disable. How a turn enable permanently that partition
[00:17] <Dioche> ?
[00:17] <bencc> when creating a new folder and trying to name it '.ssh' it jumps back to 'Untitled Folder'
[00:17] <bencc> is this a bug?
[00:18] <bencc> I'm using nautilus
[00:18] <_blk> Dioche, looks like you're missing an entry in /etc/fstab to automatically mount the swap partition
[00:18] <_blk> Dioche, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq see "Activating the Swap Partition"
[00:19] <Dioche> Oh thanks, i will see!
[00:19] <K`zan> _blk: just apt-get installed it.
[00:20] <_blk> bencc, .ssh probably already exists and it's just hidden.. activate hidden files (CTRL+H in nautilus)
[00:20] <K`zan> heru-htl: Will track down the source and give it ago, thanks!
[00:21] <_blk> K`zan, then recompiling is the way to fix it (unless you find a ppa which already distributes a fixed version). If you're not a developer this is not an easy procedure, and updating to 14.04 might be the easier path
[00:21] <heru-htl> K`zan: check the related information here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20714343/gtk-error-gtk-2-x-symbols-detected
[00:25] <K`zan> heru-htl: Got this: checking for GTK3... no
[00:25] <K`zan> checking for GTK2... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.9) were not met:
[00:25] <K`zan> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[00:25] <K`zan> did an apt-cache search but no gtp++-2.0
[00:25] <K`zan> gtk
[00:32] <K`zan> heru-htl: progress, but now:  Requested 'libmtp >= 1.1.6' but version of libmtp is 1.1.3
[00:32] <K`zan> guess I need to make that from source too ?
[00:33] <Wu117> I don't have hexdump install in docker, does someone know in what package hexdump is?
[00:34] <K`zan> Err, never mind, this is getting too convoluted.  Sigh, booting windoz is just simpler :-(.
[00:35] <K`zan> Never thought I'd see the day when windoz was more up on devices though :-(.
[00:37] <html_> hi
[00:37] <vinch> Indonesian people please , . . .
[00:38] <daftykins> !id
[00:38] <html_> how do i get drivers for a desktop with out that it working?  istill have another ubuntu desktop
[00:39] <xeno_> Can anyone tell me how to get my Terminals to have the full set of control buttons, like full page, minimize, disappear?  All I have is the x button now for deletion.
[00:39] <daftykins> "that it working" ?
[00:40] <vinch> I am a newbie here , anybody wanna share about Ubuntu Studio experiences , . . .
[00:40] <RippSteakface> I'm having trouble getting Conky to start at boot in Xubuntu. I followed the simple instructions on Ubuntu's site but it still doesn't work.
[00:40] <RippSteakface> Anyone know what might work for me?
[00:41] <CarlFK> Wu117: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/bsdmainutils/filelist  /usr/bin/hexdump
[00:41] <daftykins> vinch: this is a support channel only, so there has to be an actual question. for general discussion there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:42] <html_> daftykins,  how do i get the drivers to update without an active internet working on that same pc?
[00:42] <Wu117> CarlFK: thanks, but in my standard 14.04 docker image: /usr/bin/hexdump: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/bin/hexdump' (No such file or directory)
[00:42] <Wu117> CarlFK: Do you know if hexdump is part of another package?
[00:42] <daftykins> html_: drivers for what?
[00:43] <html_> daftykins,  network drivers
[00:43] <kazuhira> I am having a problem. If I do wine /path/to/win32app.exe into my startup on linuxmint 16 I start the app with the default configuration. When I click on the app, and click run in wine it works perfectly with my settings.
[00:43] <daftykins> html_: wireless?
[00:43] <vinch> daftykins , I am so sory about it , cuz I might got a wrong room / channel , . . .
[00:43] <html_> daftykins,  no, desktop
[00:44] <qin_> Wu117: bsdmainutils
[00:44] <daftykins> html_: *blink* drivers for a wireless network interface?
[00:44] <kazuhira> the problem is that I want my settings and not the default, so how can I start my app just as though I clicked on it.
[00:44] <CarlFK> Wu117: bsdmainutils is the package name
[00:44] <kazuhira> at startup
[00:44] <Wu117> qin_: CarlFK thank you!
[00:44] <RippSteakface> Looking to get conky to start at boot, instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky don't do it, any suggestions? Using Xubuntu 14.04 (xubuntu irc is a dead channel)
[00:45] <kazuhira> RippSteakface: I just added it to my login startup.
[00:45] <html_> daftykins,  no. there is no wireless at all on this desktop.
[00:45] <kazuhira> kazuhira:  conky that is
[00:45] <RippSteakface> kazuhira: I did what the instructions say on that site and it still doesn't boot at start :(
[00:45] <html_> daftykins,  no. there is no wireless at all on this desktop.
[00:46] <daftykins> html_: so is it actually a situation where the wired networking isn't working on a clean install?
[00:46] <RippSteakface> kazuhira: I have to open the terminal and type conky & to start it
[00:46] <html_> daftykins,  its acting funny
[00:46] <daftykins> define 'acting funny' ?
[00:47] <Beldar> RippSteakface, what desktop are you using
[00:48] <RippSteakface> Xubuntu 14.04
[00:48] <RippSteakface> Beldar: Xubuntu 14.04
[00:48] <html_> daftykins,  i installed the server then juju with a few others the desktop- when i go to the networking icon at the top-right, it tells me " device not manged"
[00:48] <Beldar> RippSteakface, Does xubuntu have startup applications?
[00:48] <TerminalNovice> How do I open a .x86 file in Ubuntu?
[00:49] <RippSteakface> Beldar: Yes, I did exactly what it says here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[00:49] <RippSteakface> Beldar: For Xubuntu
[00:50] <RippSteakface> Beldar: Is it assuming that I have some sort of script to open the terminal and run conky or something?
[00:51] <Beldar> RippSteakface, You did this, "In the Applications menu open Settings Manager and select Session and Startup. On the Application Autostart tab click the Add button. In the resulting dialog box give the name as "Conky" and the command as conky. "???
[00:51] <RippSteakface> Beldar: Yes
[00:52] <RippSteakface> Beldar: That's exactly what I did.
[00:52] <Beldar> RippSteakface, And no conky at all or no custom conky when rebooted?
[00:52] <RippSteakface> Beldar: No conky at all. I have to open the terminal and run "conky &"
[00:53] <RippSteakface> Beldar: I'm still a bit of a noob
[00:54] <Beldar> RippSteakface, Been awhile since I used xubuntu, not sure.
[00:54] <RippSteakface> Beldar: Yeah it's straightforward but I don't get why it isn't working
[00:54] <RippSteakface> Beldar: I mean should I try making the command "conky &" instead of just "conky"?
[00:55] <dioche> _blk, thanks man! The swap is work now! Very thanks!
[00:55] <RippSteakface> Beldar: Wouldn't hurt to try I guess.
[00:55] <_blk> dioche, You're welcome
[00:56] <Beldar> RippSteakface, there is /user/bin/conky
[00:56] <tzvi> RippSteakface: that shouldnt make a difference
[00:56] <daftykins> html_: aaaah, as in you started with ubuntu server?
[00:57] <Beldar> conky should work though that's what mine says
[00:57] <tzvi> Beldar: I literally just finished re-doing my conky
[00:57] <tzvi> are you using the default config or custom?
[00:57] <RippSteakface> Beldar: Do I do something with that?
[00:57] <PhlowHome> Is there a way to move the close/max/min buttons to the right in 14.04?
[00:57] <tzvi> sorry that was intended for RippSteakface
[00:58] <sup_> hi, i want to install 14.04. Before i had a hard disk with 2 partitions. One for windows and one for 12.04. Now i want to format everything and make just one partition for 14.04. But i am confused with swap and all those options...
[00:58] <RippSteakface> tzvi: I'm using a custom conkyrc that I edited
[00:58] <RippSteakface> tzvi: It boots with terminal using "conky" but not in my startup applications in Xubuntu.
[00:58] <tzvi> RippSteakface: where is the file? /etc/conky/conkyrc?
[00:59] <RippSteakface> tzvi: One sec
[00:59] <Beldar> RippSteakface, You could try it in the command in Autostart
[00:59] <html_> daftykins,  yes, yes the sh parts work but it dont show up with the gui to mange the network
[00:59] <RippSteakface> tzvi: It's in /home/*name*/.conkyrc
[00:59] <daftykins> html_: ok can you open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then do "pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces"
[01:00] <tzvi> are you doing this here -> http://i.stack.imgur.com/Wchtx.png
[01:00] <tzvi> Beldar: ^
[01:00] <RippSteakface> tzvi: That's what I use yes
[01:01] <PhlowHome> sup_, it's recommended to create a swap partition about the size of your RAM, another partition (ext4 usually) mount point /, and perhaps an EFI boot partition if needed.  You can create more for other mount points as desired
[01:01] <RippSteakface> Beldar: What command would I use instead of "conky"
[01:01] <sup_> PhlowHome: but why do i need them? swap and one / arent enough?
[01:02] <PhlowHome> they can be
[01:02] <Beldar> RippSteakface, You have other help now, they have made this a threesome, I don't do that.
[01:02] <PhlowHome> you may want another partition to share with windows, etc
[01:02] <tzvi> Beldar: sorry, I'm out.
[01:02] <RippSteakface> Beldar: Hahaha I just want to solve it
[01:02] <PhlowHome> sup_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[01:04] <sup_> PhlowHome: no i think i dont need one. Its only a 80gb ssd. But  now because i tried before to install 14.04 i see a swap and a partition with 14.04. When i press to install on the one that says 14.04 i get no root file system is defined
[01:05] <PhlowHome> sup_, if you don't need them, remove them and create them fresh
[01:06] <sup_> ok
[01:06] <RippSteakface> tzvi: No ideas eh?
[01:07] <PhlowHome> sup_, not sure I'd put swap on the ssd, that's a pretty small ssd
[01:07] <tzvi> Sorry no clue.
[01:08] <sup_> PhlowHome: would this be a problem? i mean i have an external drive. Do you say it because i may not have enough free space for apps and stuff or for another reason?
[01:08] <PhlowHome> sup_, space, not performance
[01:08] <wolftune> Hi, I need to update my BIOS but I have no CD/DVD drive and I tried unetbootin to make the Windows-based ISO with the BIOS update load to a USB drive and that didn't work. I have no Windows installation. Anyone help?
[01:08] <sup_> PhlowHome: its okay i guess. i had ubuntu in 35 gb total before...
[01:08] <PhlowHome> 8, 16, 32GB of that ssd for swap is a waste
[01:09] <html_> qqq
[01:10] <sup_> PhlowHome: i hope that i will buy a new bigger ssd soon. thanks for help !
[01:10] <wolftune> I've been searching for answers but haven't found a solution
[01:11] <PhlowHome> wolftune, you may need to change bios settings to boot from the flash usb first
[01:11] <dw1> wolftune: should work just burn it and boot it
[01:11] <PhlowHome> wolftune, many bios have the ability to boot to a specific device right in the bios boot menu
[01:12] <wolftune> dw1: burn it?
[01:12] <dw1> wolftune: you dont need windows the ISO will be a complete bootable OS
[01:12] <dw1> wolftune: burn/write whatever
[01:12] <wolftune> PhlowHome: I'm trying to MAKE a bootable device
[01:12] <wolftune> dw1: ?
[01:13] <wolftune> dw1: my computer has no CD/DVD drive
[01:13] <wolftune> I know I don't need Windows, but I don't know how to use Ubuntu to get the ISO onto a USB stick so it will be usable for booting
[01:13] <dw1> wolftune: are you sure youre booting it right
[01:14] <PhlowHome> wolftune, unetbootin should be able to get you running, if your system tries to boot from that device
[01:14] <wolftune> dw1: I can't even *try* to boot it if I don't have the ISO on something to tell the computer to boot with
[01:14] <wolftune> PhlowHome: ok, so let me explain what happens: it successfully boots using unetbootin…
[01:14] <PhlowHome> or try some other options, pendrivelinux.com
[01:15] <wolftune> but then it just says "default" and there's no other options
[01:15] <wolftune> so nothing happens, it just sits at the unetbootin boot screen
[01:15] <wolftune> when I boot with the USB that unetbootin made
[01:15] <PhlowHome> wolftune, is this a recent system with UEFI?
[01:15] <wolftune> yes, but I have secure boot turned off
[01:15] <dw1> that sounds good
[01:16] <dw1> maybe the iso is incomplete
[01:16] <PhlowHome> wolftune, what OS are you trying to run from the unetbootin?
[01:17] <wolftune> PhlowHome: I am using Ubuntu to run unetbootin itself, I am using an ISO that is supposed to just be a self-contained BIOS update ISO
[01:17] <PhlowHome> wolftune, you probably want secure boot on then
[01:17] <wolftune> here's the README for the ISO: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/gduj18uc.txt
[01:18] <wolftune> PhlowHome: really? So I need to turn secure boot back on? And then I can turn it off after the BIOS update and get back to my Ubuntu install?
[01:18] <PhlowHome> yes, you need secure boot on for uefi to properly work
[01:18] <daftykins> ^no
[01:19] <wolftune> so maybe turning on Secure Boot will be all that's needed to make the unetbootin generated USB drive boot fully??
[01:19] <dw1> seems to be booting fine
[01:19] <wolftune> well, ok, yes, BOOTING is happening
[01:19] <wolftune> I boot and get the unetbootin menu for what to run
[01:19] <wolftune> but running something from there isn't happening
[01:19] <PhlowHome> try it and see
[01:20] <wolftune> PhlowHome: ok, I suppose there's no risk, right? I can just turn it back on… (I so wish this Secure Boot crap didn't exist, I don't trust it)
[01:20] <wolftune> daftykins: what were you saying "no" to?
[01:20] <PhlowHome> wolftune, can probably leave it on to install ubuntu too
[01:21] <wolftune> PhlowHome: really?
[01:21] <daftykins> wolftune: PhlowHome's statement regarding secure boot and UEFI.
[01:21] <wolftune> I already have Ubuntu fully installed
[01:21] <daftykins> wolftune: you should boot back into ubuntu and use 'dd' to write the image to the flash drive.
[01:21] <wolftune> almost everything is working great
[01:21] <wolftune> daftykins: oh ok thanks!
[01:21] <PhlowHome> I couldn't get ubuntu to even install on a recent MSI laptop without secure boot enabled
[01:21] <wolftune> daftykins: have a link to simple instructions for using dd in this case?
[01:22] <daftykins> wolftune: it's a terminal application so first put your flash drive in and run "sudo fdisk -l" to tell us which device your flash drive is, probably /dev/sdb
[01:22] <wolftune> PhlowHome: well, that's all irrelevant to me, Ubuntu is fine, I'm just trying to update my BIOS
[01:22] <wolftune> daftykins: ok
[01:22] <PhlowHome> fair enough
[01:23] <hoylemd> Hey, I don;t think my php-fpm service is running, but I don't know how to check / fix it. Help?
[01:23] <wolftune> daftykins: I think it is /deve/sdc (sdb is the other part of the hybrid drive that's built in I think)
[01:24] <daftykins> wolftune: ok, its size should match up with what you know of your flash drive. next up, "sudo dd if=/path/to/your/downloaded.iso of=/dev/sdc"
[01:24] <dw1> hoylemd: try #ubuntu-server or ##php
[01:24] <eflynn> do you prefer serving files out of /srv/www or /home/user/public_html ?
[01:25] <daftykins> wolftune: it won't give any progress whilst it's writing, but it will be... so just watch and wait and it will eventually complete and return to the prompt without echo'ing anything
[01:25] <wolftune> daftykins: thanks!
[01:25] <wolftune> looks like it did it, so now I'll reboot and that should work! Back in a bit (I hope!)
[01:26] <daftykins> wolftune: no problemo, careful with the update!
[01:27] <Cheekio> I'm getting a really strange error where my wireless card will surrepitiously reassociate with the AP, once a second or less.
[01:27] <wolftune> nope. Darn.
[01:27] <Cheekio> Eventually it just sort of flattens out and doesn't seem to be an issue anymore.
[01:28] <wolftune> That time I selected USB and it didn't boot
[01:28] <wolftune> Perhaps I *do* need secure boot on?
[01:28] <wolftune> Or perhaps dd copied the file but didn't make the USB bootable?
[01:28] <wolftune> Or perhaps I need to fully erase it first or take some other action?
[01:28] <wolftune> is there a later make-bootable command I missed?
[01:28] <Cheekio> http://imgur.com/zwBqtGS
[01:29] <Cheekio> ^^ Any ideas?
[01:29] <Cheekio> That's kern.log.
[01:29] <dw1> Cheekio: doesnt look bad, why
[01:29] <Cheekio> Well it scrolls like that constantly for pages
[01:30] <Cheekio> I end up with delayed or dropped packets across all my apps
[01:30] <dw1> Cheekio: are you running custom router firmware
[01:31] <Cheekio> No, it's a regular old airport
[01:31] <daftykins> wolftune: make sure the ISO isn't corrupted
[01:32] <wolftune> daftykins: good point, but aside from that, perhaps there's a boot-flag or format issue for the USB also?
[01:32] <PhlowHome> wolftune, rabbit hole...  unetbootin should have been just fine
[01:32] <wolftune> hmm
[01:32] <wolftune> maybe the ISO was indeed bad…
[01:33] <PhlowHome> it happens
[01:33] <daftykins> what's this BIOS update you're doing anyway? )
[01:33] <daftykins> * :)
[01:33] <PhlowHome> can also get weird behavior if the ISO gets fragmented on the drive
[01:33] <wolftune> daftykins: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/gduj18uc.txt
[01:34] <wolftune> daftykins: I had a problem with not staying suspended and reported a bug report and was told I need to update my BIOS and verify if it is still an issue
[01:34] <daftykins> ah-har
[01:34] <heru-htl> burn ISO on proper speed (i.e 8-speed) to reduce fragment
[01:34] <daftykins> wolftune: did you confirm your current version?
[01:34] <wolftune> daftykins: I know that I'm out of date, yeah
[01:34] <daftykins> heru-htl: lol, that doesn't make sense on any possible element whatsoever.
[01:35] <daftykins> wolftune: hang on a tick
[01:35] <wolftune> k
[01:35] <heru-htl> :D my apologies men hehehe ...
[01:35] <shane_> I'm trying to get a binary "djtgcft"(for programming fpga's) to work and I wondering how to get it to find a set of shared libraries a slightly different verison number then it looks for.  1 example is it looks for libdabs.so.2 and i have libdabs.so.2.11.1 but it doesn't find that one.
[01:36] <daftykins> wolftune: are you using the boot menu of this system to select the flash drive?
[01:36] <daftykins> like hitting a key to get a boot device menu
[01:36] <wolftune> daftykins: yes
[01:36] <PhlowHome> are there two entries for the drive?  one for uefi and one not?
[01:37] <daftykins> wolftune: ok try entering the BIOS and going to the 'boot' page and see if it lists two boot entries for the flash drive, as PhlowHome is suggesting
[01:37] <wolftune> daftykins: ok, I was going to try to check that the ISO is good, but I couldn't find an md5 listed anywhere
[01:38] <wolftune> I could try redownloading just in case, maybe several times and check that the md5 is always the same…
[01:38] <wolftune> that make any sense?
[01:38] <daftykins> indeed it does
[01:38] <wolftune> ok
[01:38] <daftykins> can you also open the flash drive and see what the contents looks like?
[01:40] <dw1> wolftune: why do you need UEFI bios update with no windows anyway? :) you could just put it in legacy mode and use grub-pc instead of grub-efi.. :)
[01:40] <daftykins> the system's firmware is called the UEFI
[01:40] <daftykins> therefore it is a UEFI update
[01:41] <dw1> wolftune: you are using grub-efi right
[01:41] <daftykins> it doesn't matter whether the OS boots as UEFI or legacy ;)
[01:41] <wolftune> dw1: maybe? I never see grub directly as I use ONLY Ubuntu and no dual-boot anything
[01:41] <Blue_Knight> is there any disadvantage of installing as legacy?
[01:42] <wolftune> in this case, I'm not going to grub at all, as I'm not *installing* any OS
[01:42] <wolftune> I'm only trying to update the BIOS
[01:42] <dw1> wolftune: yeah but without grub-efi its not even using efi
[01:42] <dw1> wolftune: it would just fall back to legacy anyway
[01:43] <daftykins> dw1: did you not read my messages where the relevance of your question is shown to be non-existant? :)
[01:43] <wolftune> I don't know what you mean "it" here. This is booting off a USB drive and has nothing to do with the OS
[01:43] <dw1> wolftune: the boot process
[01:43] <daftykins> wolftune: he means well but is wasting your time, don't worry.
[01:44] <dw1> bios boots, bios looks for bootable OS in UEFI.  if not using grub-EFI there will be no OS there
[01:44] <dw1> -> fallback to legacy
[01:44] <wolftune> well, I redownloaded and got the same md5sum, so I guess that's good
[01:44] <dw1> so updating UEFI in that case would be pointless
[01:44] <wolftune> sure
[01:45] <PhlowHome> wolftune, not neccessarily, but that's probably not your problem :)
[01:45] <daftykins> dw1: can you please stop talking now, you're showing a clear misunderstanding of the task at hand
[01:45] <wolftune> dw1: I'm not installing GRUB at all because this is not running any grub-related OS in this case
[01:45] <wolftune> grub is installed and working on my internal Ubuntu install
[01:45] <dw1> daftykins: possibly a pointless task
[01:46] <wolftune> daftykins: alright, anyway, contents of the USB is the important thing here
[01:46] <daftykins> wolftune: yep what does it look like?
[01:46] <wolftune> daftykins: gparted shows no partition table for the USB at all right now
[01:46] <daftykins> ooh-err
[01:46] <daftykins> that's not a good sign
[01:47] <wolftune> the contents are blank otherwise
[01:47] <wolftune> maybe I should make a partition table and then try dd again?
[01:47] <daftykins> do you see the contents opening the ISO?
[01:47] <wolftune> (incidentally, I used the same USB to install Ubuntu, and that worked)
[01:47] <PhlowHome> go back to a bootable flash software, no reason to stick your junk in a blender
[01:47] <daftykins> wolftune: yeah and if you would, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit" so i can look at your drives too
[01:47] <dw1> sudo dpkg -l | grep grub-efi shows packages? :)
[01:48] <daftykins> PhlowHome: lol. it's really not that big a deal
[01:48] <PhlowHome> there's software that makes this an automated process
[01:48] <PhlowHome> no need to worry about dd offsets, alignments, etc
[01:48] <daftykins> i've seen unetbootin screw up on many a situation
[01:48] <wolftune> daftykins: sure, but first question: how do I "open" the ISO image?
[01:48] <daftykins> dw1: please stop talking, you are wasting time trying to answer what hasn't been asked.
[01:49] <Church> wolftune: if from comand line, you mount it via loopback
[01:49] <dw1> daftykins: if his grub isnt in EFI theres no point in updated UEFI
[01:49] <daftykins> dw1: you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, please stop now.
[01:49] <Church> wolftune: eg. mount -o ro,loop isofile.iso /mnt/somedir , and then you can see it's contents in /mnt/somedir
[01:49] <daftykins> wolftune: as Church  says ^
[01:49] <PhlowHome> dw1, he's updating his bios... it's more than just UEFI support
[01:50] <dw1> PhlowHome: m
[01:50] <dw1> PhlowHome: k
[01:50] <daftykins> dw1: now why didn't you understand that the first time i told you =|
[01:52] <dw1> what inspired this update anyway
[01:52] <dw1> just wanna be bleeding-edge
[01:52] <dw1> ?
[01:52] <daftykins> dw1: ok, we've been over this, this isn't a general chat channel
[01:52] <daftykins> STOP. TALKING.
[01:52] <wolftune> Church: thanks
[01:53] <PhlowHome> daftykins, http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/gduj18us.iso
[01:53] <PhlowHome> I'm assuming that's the iso
[01:53] <Blue_Knight> !ping
[01:54] <daftykins> PhlowHome: heh, looks blank here - must be obfuscated somehow
[01:55] <wolftune> I tried sudo mount -o ro,loop gduj18us.iso /mnt/somedir
[01:55] <wolftune> but it said
[01:55] <wolftune> mount: mount point /mnt/somedir does not exist
[01:55] <PhlowHome> I see a [BOOT] folder, a Bootable_HardDrive.img in it
[01:55] <Blue_Knight> wolftune: mkdir first
[01:55] <PhlowHome> but, just looking at it in 7zip
[01:55] <_blk> wolftune, /mnt/somedir must exist
[01:55] <wolftune> duh
[01:55] <wolftune> ok
[01:55] <wolftune> thanks :P
[01:55] <daftykins> PhlowHome: ah i was using winRAR which had no idea and mounting it
[01:56] <jezi22> i am having chown: invalid user while installing
[01:56] <_blk> wolftune, if it's not en empty dir, the content will be hidden by the mount untils it's unmounted
[01:56] <jezi22> what is the problem?
[01:56] <wolftune> well now: mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/mnt/testdir’: Read-only file system
[01:56] <wolftune> even though I did sudo
[01:57] <_blk> jezi22, be more descriptive. While installing what? Does it require you to be root?
[01:57] <jezi22> _blk: wait im gonna paste it.
[01:57] <vashidu> so im trying to upgrade a production box to 11.10 and im getting thishttp://ix.io/cgj
[01:57] <vashidu> http://ix.io/cgj
[01:57] <_blk> wolftune, sudo mount -o remount,rw / (or, unlikely, /mnt)
[01:58] <daftykins> wolftune: i'm going to have to head off now - good luck though!
[01:58] <vashidu> any thoughts on how the heck im gonna upgrade this box?
[01:58] <wolftune> daftykins: ok, thanks, quick confirmation: I should try making a partition table on the USB?
[01:58] <daftykins> vashidu: 11.10 is dead, you can't. clean install time
[01:58] <wolftune> appreciate the help!
[01:58] <bsdbandit> anyone using cgroups ?
[01:58] <jezi22> _blk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7450244/
[01:59] <daftykins> wolftune: nah no need for any of that, dd'ing the ISO onto it would've made any necessary filesystem as long as you chose "/dev/sdx" and not for example "/dev/sdx2"
[01:59] <ridethespiral> I just reinstalled 14.04 and had to use nomodeset. Now my display looks like it is set to a low resolution but in display settings it shows 1280x768
[01:59] <wolftune> daftykins: k
[01:59] <wolftune> I'll keep trying
[01:59] <ridethespiral> err nvm it is set to a low resolution, 1024x768
[01:59] <xangua> !eol | vashidu you can as minimum upgrade to 12.04
[02:00] <vashidu> daftykins: i just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04
[02:00] <vashidu> dont tell me about EOL crap
[02:00] <daftykins> vashidu: drop that attitude
[02:00] <daftykins> you're running a dead OS. clean install time!
[02:00] <ddsss> weird issue: when I turn monitor off and on again -> it says cannot find signal and I can't get picture back on -> so I have to restart computer in those cases. Any ideas?
[02:01] <woof-woof> vashidu: I support old releases!
[02:01] <bsdbandit> hey vashidu whats your issue ?
[02:01] <ridethespiral> Anyone? How can I get my resolution corrected after installing with nomodeset.. I'm using the intel i5 graphics and have my ati radeon disabled
[02:02] <woof-woof> vashidu: Go to #OLD_RELEASES
[02:02] <ridethespiral> fresh install of 14.04
[02:02] <jezi22> i am trying to install nginx and this is the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7450244/ i tried googling with no luck.
[02:02] <talsamon> hello - how to downgrade icedtea-plugin from 1.5. to 1.42 (lubuntu 14.04)
[02:03] <vashidu> daftykins: sorry m8 a clean install isnt possibru
[02:03] <_blk> jezi22, not an expert on nginx but it looks like it's not setting up the required users correctly. Google might know.
[02:03] <vashidu> woof-woof: how the heck then?
[02:03] <woof-woof> vashidu?
[02:04] <jezi22> _blk: i don't think it is nginx specifig... it is a problem in apt-get or dpkg.
[02:05] <woof-woof> jezi22: What's the issue?
[02:05] <vashidu> bsdbandit: cant update from 11.04 to 10.10 to get to 12.04 or 13.04
[02:05] <vashidu> bsdbandit: cant update from 11.04 to 11.10 to get to 12.04 or 13.04
[02:06] <_blk> jezi22, most certainly not. It seems to be a problem with the "acct" package script. try `apt-get -f install`
[02:08] <jezi22> woof-woof: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7450244/
[02:08] <_blk> jezi22, ..or remove the "acct" package, if that's possible (dependency-wise): apt-get remove acct
[02:09] <jezi22> _blk: is there a way to reinstall a package?
[02:10] <vashidu> bsdbandit: i used to use cgroups but decided it wasnt worth it
[02:10] <hjkhl> jezi22: sudo apt-get install --reinstall package
[02:11] <bsdbandit> oh wow
[02:12] <vashidu> like on my new shell server i just went no cgroups because of the amount of power i have.. but it just depends on the situation
[02:12] <bsdbandit> hey vashidu just wanted to pick your brian for a second im setting up cgroups and i keep getting this error when trying to restart my apache server Invalid command 'CGROUP_DAEMON="memory:/http"', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[02:13] <daveeejr> i cannot get my computer to show hibernate in the gui.  i can hibernate through the command line with "pm-hibernate" but followin the instructions of editing /etc/polki... have not worked.  it worked at one point, but no longer has any affect.  also, for a brief moment, when i first start up my laptop, a restart option is also in the power menu for about 10 seconds, but then dissappears
[02:13] <daveeejr> any advice? i am using 14.04
[02:13] <Austneal> I just installed NVIDIA drivers, and now Ubuntu will not boot :/
[02:13] <vashidu> Austneal: can you get into the recovery?
[02:13] <Austneal> Yes
[02:14] <Austneal> I'm in root terminal now
[02:14] <vashidu> put up networking and replace nvidia with mesa
[02:14] <Austneal> How would I do that?
[02:14] <Austneal> Also, my only internet access is wireless... will that do?
[02:14] <somsip> !info php5 precise
[02:14] <vashidu> i might get shun'd for the way i would help you..
[02:14] <somsip> !info php5 trusty
[02:15] <Austneal> vashidu as long as it works, IDC :P
[02:15] <danitetus> cantoma: Eres español?
[02:16] <Austneal> vashidu, I just dont have a wired connection
[02:16] <vashidu> Austneal: it should be fine
[02:17] <Austneal> vashidu Ok, I'm in the recovery screen. Select networking?
[02:17] <vashidu> i mean if your on irc network is already up
[02:17] <Austneal> no
[02:17] <Austneal> I'm on a tablet here
[02:17] <vashidu> ohgawd
[02:17] <Austneal> a windows tablet of all things :P
[02:18] <vashidu> grody
[02:18] <vashidu> hmm hangon
[02:18] <Austneal> I actually kinda like it lol
[02:18] <jezi22> i am having chown: invalid group: `root:adm' when installing
[02:18] <Austneal> vashidu, root terminal doesn't seem to be able to remove the NVIDIA drivers btw...
[02:19] <vashidu> can you do cat /var/log/dmesg | less
[02:19] <vashidu> there should be a dmesg log inthere from your last boot
[02:19] <vashidu> just read the log and figure out why it didnt like it
[02:19] <Austneal> Ugh
[02:19] <Austneal> TONS of text
[02:19] <vashidu> yeah just goto the end and work your way up
[02:20] <_blk> jezi22, did you try removing that "acct" package that's causing this configuration error?
[02:20] <vashidu> its going to be after the current boot though
[02:20] <Austneal> I have no idea which one is the current
[02:20] <vashidu> do ls -l /var/log/dmes*
[02:21] <vashidu> itll probably be the .0
[02:21] <Austneal> Ok... I have the .0 open
[02:22] <vashidu> scroll down to the bottom
[02:22] <vashidu> what is the fail
[02:22] <Austneal> Nothing about xserver or lighted
[02:22] <Austneal> *lightdm
[02:22] <Austneal> Windows keyboard -.-
[02:22] <vashidu> can you run startx from the recovery console?
[02:23] <Austneal> Yeah, got an error though
[02:23] <vashidu> whats the error about
[02:23] <Austneal> Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
[02:23] <jezi22> _blk: yes and still no good... i am thinking there is something wrong in dpkg of this machine
[02:23] <Austneal> No screens found
[02:23] <jezi22> i am running it on a server provisioned by someone not me
[02:24] <vashidu> okay
[02:24] <vashidu> do cat /etc/issue
[02:24] <ridethespiral> Anyone? How can I get my resolution corrected after installing with nomodeset.. I'm using the intel i5 graphics and have my ati radeon disabled
[02:24] <_blk> jezi22, so acct is gone, then "apt-get -f install" should run cleanly.. which would mean nothing wrong (anymore)
[02:24] <vashidu> what version of ubuntu are you running
[02:25] <Austneal> vashidu, empty
[02:25] <vashidu> uname -ar
[02:25] <Austneal> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[02:25] <vashidu> k hangon
[02:26] <vashidu> lsmod|grep nvidia
[02:26] <Austneal> ok, found one
[02:26] <Austneal> NVidia 11334886   0
[02:27] <Austneal> vashidu, NVidia 11334886   0
[02:28] <wolftune> hey folks, I tried a bunch of things but I can't get a successful boot of my BIOS update ISO off a USB…
[02:28] <vashidu> alright so all i see Austneal is that the drivers in ubuntu 14.04 are bugged and there is a bug report on it
[02:28] <wolftune> I used dd to make it, also tried unetbootin, and I tried with secure boot on or off
[02:29] <Austneal> If I can just uninstall these, that'd be great >.<
[02:29] <Austneal> I cant boot
[02:29] <wolftune> all I can think is that I should BUY an external USB DVD drive and burn a physical disk
[02:29] <vashidu> you probably have to replace them with whatever you installed them over
[02:29] <Austneal> I didn't install them over anything
[02:29] <vashidu> so you cant do apt-get -f remove nvidiadrivergoeshere
[02:29] <wolftune> I can't figure out how to verify at all that I actually am getting anything correct on the USB when I try to move the ISO over…
[02:30] <Austneal> I was just noticing massive youtube lag with 720p video and thought "Oh, I never installed the NVidia drivers"
[02:30] <daveeejr> my policykit doesn't seem to be working.  can anynone help with that?
[02:30] <Austneal> vashidu, Nope, it wont work
[02:30] <daveeejr> information doesn't seem to be read from some of the files
[02:30] <vashidu> Austneal: ive been getting that for months on my latest install of arch that boots in 2 seconds...
[02:30] <Austneal> oh wait... I think its working now
[02:31] <dw1> wolftune: interesting that mounting the .iso with "disk image mounter" in nautilus shows no files
[02:31] <module000> wolftune: if the ISO wasn't designed to be usb bootable, it's not going to boot without you tinkering with it first
[02:31] <wolftune> Hmm, I figured out how to mount the ISO and it appears empty
[02:31] <dw1> wolftune: yea
[02:31] <wolftune> module000: it is designed to be bootable
[02:31] <module000> wolftune: most of those(like HP & lenovo) ISO BIOS updates run FreeDOS, and you can repack those with syslinux to boot from usb instead of CD
[02:31] <Austneal> vashidu, So its not a driver issue? because youtube is practically unusable
[02:31] <wolftune> module000: hmm…
[02:31] <wolftune> that's sounds promising
[02:32] <dw1> wolftune: i was just going to try running freedos and copying the files from the .iso myself but no files in the .iso :)
[02:32] <wolftune> module000: it's this one:  http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS032118
[02:32] <wolftune> dw1: yeah, crazy, so what is that ISO? Why can't I see any files in it? Is it no good?
[02:32] <PhlowHome> it has an internal fat filesystem, 7zip sees it
[02:32] <dw1> wolftune: its the same with version 17
[02:32] <Austneal> vashidu, Removed the NVidia drivers. Rebooting now.... and it works \o/
[02:33] <wolftune> dw1: version 17?
[02:33] <wolftune> PhlowHome: hmm ok
[02:33] <dw1> wolftune: yeah if you change the url from 18 to 17 you can get the older version
[02:33] <_blk> wolftune, the bios update doesn't rely on a filesystem that's why it appears empty
[02:33] <wolftune> dw1: but you're saying that doesn't help, right?
[02:33] <dw1> wolftune: right
[02:33] <wolftune> k
[02:33] <Austneal> vashidu, I take that back.... now its hanging after the login screen
[02:33] <Austneal> sigh
[02:33] <wolftune> _blk: ok thanks
[02:34] <Austneal> sooo glad I have all of my dev tools on windows xD
[02:34] <module000> wolftune: searching that Twist model & "usb bios update" gets this...it sounds like you aren't the only one: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-Edge-S-series/ThinkPad-S230u-usb-boot/td-p/975467
[02:34] <ridethespiral> Just installed 14.04 and had to use nomodeset to boot the live usb. Install went fine but now my resolution is really low and I can't change it. I've disabled my radeon discreet graphics and I am using the graphics of the intel i5...
[02:34] <dw1> PhlowHome: can you get the files with 7zip then ?
[02:34] <vashidu> Austneal: im not sure, im not running ubuntu as a primary anymore because of issues like these...
[02:34] <module000> wolftune: that doesn't have a good solution though, it ends with the poster just explaining how to disable secure boot.
[02:35] <ridethespiral> neeed halp lol
[02:35] <PhlowHome> dw1, not really
[02:35] <wolftune> module000: :( thanks though, damn
[02:35] <module000> wolftune: i have a lenovo x1 carbon at work, i had the same issue. i ended up burning it to a physical CD and booting it with a usb dvd drive
[02:36] <wolftune> module000: so I should just get a USB DVD drive I guess
[02:36] <Austneal> vashidu, Still not working. As soon as I log in I get "System program problem detected. Do you want to report the problem now?"
[02:36] <sxj> hi
[02:36] <Austneal> Thanks for that detailed info Ubuntu :/
[02:36] <dw1> wolftune: i dont see it making  difference when we cant even see the files in the .iso
[02:37] <PhlowHome> it doesn't look like a uefi bootable image, so secure boot off, legacy boot on, and booting to the device as non-uefi should get you in
[02:38] <limbo_> everything but my cursor is frozen on my display? Any ideas what's causing this? killing Xorg fixed it last time, but that's no better than rebooting.
[02:38] <dw1> ive been trying in legacy mode nothing works
[02:38] <daveeejr> using ubuntu 14.04 and the polkit doesnt seem to be working properly
[02:38] <daveeejr> can anyone help me with that?
[02:39] <rsaw> ctrl+alt+f6  and f7
[02:40] <limbo_> rsaw: are you talking to me?
[02:40] <rsaw> yes
[02:40] <limbo_> OK, I'm inside of tty1 at the minute
[02:40] <limbo_> ctrl+alt+f1, at least
[02:41] <rsaw>  ctrl+alt+f7
[02:42] <rsaw> press ctrl+alt f1 and ctrl+alt f7 it will fix freez
[02:42] <limbo_> that just brings me back to unity, with everything still frozen, except for the mouse cursor.
[02:45] <limbo_> the system doesn't seem to be frozen. it's just that nothing but the mouse cursor is being updated on the screen.
[02:45] <limbo_> I can still start aplications and close them, as well as click on things.
[02:46] <dw1> wolftune: there are .exe versions on that page. i ran one with wine and it 'installed' and wanted to run a windows-based update utility
[02:46] <dw1> wolftune: http://support.lenovo.com/en_CA/downloads/detail.page?&DocID=DS032000
[02:47] <dw1> wolftune: unfortunately i dont see any DOS apps that might be run in FreeDOS made with unetbootin
[02:48] <wolftune> dw1: thanks
[02:48] <Austneal> After uninstalling and reinstalling NVidia drivers, when I log in, I get "Program problem detected" And lose the ability to click on anything.... any ideas?
[02:49] <dw1> wolftune: http://imagebin.org/310302
[02:51] <limbo_> Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing my problem? I don't know what exactly causes it, so I'm kind of at a loss for filing a bug report.
[02:51] <dw1> wolftune: :) http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/can-i-run-windows-7-from-a-live-usb-drive/
[02:54] <wolftune> dw1: will try those suggestions thanks
[02:55] <dw1> wolftune: if you have an extra hard drive you could install windows to it temporarily.. :/
[02:55] <wolftune> ugh :P
[02:56] <dw1> dont know whats up with the .isos :(
[02:56] <dw1> email them maybe
[02:57] <aum> hi - I'm trying to connect to an X server on a remote machine on my LAN. I can SSH into that machine, I have executed "xhost +" on that machine's terminal within X, but when I set DISPLAY and try to run xterm, I get "xterm: Xt error: Can't open display: <ip addr>:0.0
[03:00] <PhlowHome> ssh needs X11forwarding on I believe, that on?
[03:00] <pavlos> aum, I think you need to pass the DISPLAY parm in the ssh string. google for example.
[03:02] <Douglas_> someone can help me??(PT-BR)
[03:03] <nick0r0> Hello
[03:03] <CarlFK> aum: ssh -X juser@va
[03:04] <nick0r0> So I been having a really hard time with Epson and their printers. For some reason they stopped supporting Linux systems
[03:04] <pavlos> aum, http://askubuntu.com/questions/175902/remote-x-server-with-ssh-x
[03:04] <nick0r0> I have an Epson XP-310 series that suposedly has drivers available online to mitigate some of Epson's Ubuntu hate
[03:05] <aum> I am trying to set up Xdmx, and I don't think that can use ssh, it needs to be able to make direct TCP connection to a remote X server
[03:06] <nick0r0> Unfortunatley after downloading (directly from Epson site), "nothing" works right. Can scan but can't print proper
[03:07] <nick0r0> Using terminal, how do download and setup the necessary drivers to operate the printer properly?
[03:08] <aum> how do i start up X server so it listens on a TCP port?
[03:08] <nick0r0> Also if you notice the site lists MULTIPLE packages that make the process more difficult than it needs to be http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule
[03:09] <wolftune> dw1: thanks for the help, I'm gonna try one last thing: turning to ONLY Legacy (I already tried UEFI only and "both" as settings)
[03:09] <wolftune> if that doesn't work, I'll have to get a USB DVD drive…
[03:10] <wolftune> maybe there's some way to borrow one if I can find someone who has one
[03:12] <bsdbandit> ok im trying to setup cgroups and i noticed that i will have to add the CGROUPS_DAEMON= to the /etc/sysconfig/httpd.conf file where is this located on ubuntu linux ?
[03:12] <bsdbandit> i know where it is located on redhat linux
[03:12] <nick0r0> I'll take some suggestions now
[03:18] <nick0r0> Can someone please help?
[03:18] <bsdbandit> whats up
[03:18] <bsdbandit> ?
[03:25] <akurilin> Hey, what's a good command-line based mp3 player for quickly playing individual files? I use cmus for my playlist, but it's not convenient since it's invalidated as soon as I move the files
[03:26] <akurilin> vlc?
[03:28] <rypervenche> akurilin: moc
[03:28] <rypervenche> akurilin: and run the mocp command to run it. I use it as my only music player.
[03:30] <Lonnie> I have to agree with mocp Its the only music player I use as well
[03:36] <pavlos> bsdbandit, did you find it? I dont have the httpd package but can install and find the path
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> !info moc
[03:38] <aarobc> I hate having to reboot whenever I want to play something. Ugh.
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> rypervenche: tnx for this package hint :p
[03:39] <morph__> could someone help me setup a mail server on ubuntu server 12.04
[03:40] <aarobc> I'd have to charge you for it.
[03:41] <morph__> uh
[03:41] <morph__> i can reciprocate with my advice aarobc
[03:42] <morph__> im quite amiliar with PHP and debian based distros
[03:42] <morph__> just never done this
[03:42] <morph__> ideally im looking for a deb package
[03:42] <morph__> or umm
[03:42] <morph__> i can offer u a little hosting?
[03:42] <rww> !postfix
[03:43] <morph__> im more than happy to offer any server advice or seedbox etc etc
[03:43] <morph__> or give u some hosting
[03:43] <morph__> comes with ssh access
[03:44] <pavlos> bsdbandit, location is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[03:45] <daveeejr> i am dying to get hibernate back in the menu.  please help.  it was there at one point but now has disappeared. pm-hibernate works. i have added the correct file to /etc/polkit-1... and I am using 14.04.  Can anyone help me?
[03:51] <ice9> is there a patch for wine to run windows games better?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> ice9: you know playonlinux?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | ice9
[03:56] <ice9> lotuspsychje: thanks I didn't know about it
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> ice9: if you have your best graphics driver for ubuntu, you will run best on wine
[03:57] <ice9> cool
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> !appdb | ice9
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> ice9: also steam improved alot on gaming for ubuntu
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !steam > ice9
[03:59] <brad__>  /nick sencha
[04:01] <ice9> when I run a windows game using wine I get this error: Unhandled privileged instruction at address
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> ice9: did you check if you have correct graphics driver?
[04:02] <ice9> lotuspsychje: it's the one installed already in Ubuntu, I believe it's correct
[04:02] <holstein> ice9: see if there is a proprietary option for your hardware
[04:03] <ice9> holstein: no there isn't, I have Intel HD 4000
[04:03] <_blk> ice9, ubuntu comes with open drivers which may be the "best" but not the most performing ones
[04:03] <_blk> ice9, oh yeah, no proprietary drivers for intel gfx
[04:03] <holstein> ice9: ok.. refer to wineHQ and see if there is helpful tips on how to run the unsupported application
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> ice9: not sure intel graphics will perform high end games
[04:11] <morph__> okay so i'll give some hosting with ssh access or help with other debian/ubuntu things if someone can help me set up webmail
[04:17] <poisonarms> Hello everyone. I'm running the latest desktop version of Ubuntu and I'm having trouble playing DVDs. I've installed these packages listed for DVD support here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171026/how-to-install-all-existing-media-codecs and VLC and mplayer and xine. I still get errors in VLC like "VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd1'." and xine times out. Anyone got any ideas?
[04:19] <holstein> poisonarms: timing out wont be the code error.. did you install what is needed?
[04:19] <holstein> !restricted
[04:20] <xuzax> hey everyone
[04:20] <holstein> poisonarms: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs specifially.. did you do those 2 commands?
[04:20] <poisonarms> holstein, I ran: sudo apt-get -y install libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdread4; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[04:21] <xuzax> poisonarms: what are you getting when you do that?
[04:21] <poisonarms> I'll try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras suggested by ubottu
[04:21] <poisonarms> xuzax, that it's already installed
[04:21] <holstein> poisonarms: the guide states rebppting may be necessary..
[04:21] <poisonarms> I did reboot
[04:21] <xuzax> thats usually to ecrypt dvds
[04:21] <holstein> poisonarms: restricted extras is more.
[04:22] <xuzax> hmm
[04:22] <holstein> poisonarms: the error you are stating reads that you are accessing the incorrect location for the DVD
[04:22] <xuzax> i see, now
[04:24] <poisonarms> holstein, oh
[04:24] <poisonarms> Well that explains it
[04:24] <poisonarms> Aaaaaaaaand it's actually working
[04:24] <poisonarms> I'm a dumbass.
[04:24] <poisonarms> Thanks
[04:25] <poisonarms> pebcak
[04:26] <dannn> hello
[04:26] <dannn> i have very odd audio problem, im running 14.04
[04:28] <dannn> by default my speakers and headphones make basting noise, like dial up, if i disable loopback in alsamixer it mutes all audio, if i re-enable loopback it works correctly
[04:28] <holstein> basting?
[04:28] <dannn> blasting
[04:28] <dannn> *
[04:28] <poisonarms> His speakers are turkeys.
[04:28] <holstein> dannn: did it ever work? with some other kernel/alsa/linux versikon?
[04:29] <dannn> i have only tried 14.04 - it works fine in windows 7though
[04:29] <dannn> i have to diable and re-enable loopback every time i turn on my computer
[04:30] <holstein> dannn: sure, and thats irrelevant, since you were promised windows support, but not linux support.. and linux is a different scenario, and cant always take advantage of your hardware manufacturers support
[04:30] <sxj> peback
[04:30] <dannn> i understand, just trying to point that i dont think its hardware issue
[04:30] <holstein> dannn: you should be able to find a way to script that, if you find that workaround is making your audio acceptable
[04:36] <sing101sing> Does anyone know how to promgram in java or c++ in ubuntu or linux
[04:36] <holstein> sing101sing: try a programming channel..
[04:37] <rww> For Java, you'd want the package default-jdk. For C++, build-essential.
[04:37] <sing101sing> holstein: what is a good programming channel that has a lot of people in it
[04:37] <rww> Apart from that, ##java and ##c++ should be helpful.
[04:38] <someHuman> Hello!
[04:38] <someHuman> How do I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu? They are both already installed.
[04:39] <holstein> !dualboot | someHuman
[04:40] <holstein> someHuman: if they are both installed, you should have installed windows first, and then ubuntu, then grub would have automatically offered to boot windows as well as ubuntu.. is that the case?
[04:40] <holstein> someHuman: if not.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:41] <sing101sing> Does anyone know how to make a php server in ubuntu am trying to get into html programming but I need a website stand alone to make it.
[04:42] <holstein> !php
[04:42] <morph__> sure sing101sing
[04:43] <holstein> sing101sing: just install it.. though, you may prefer something like http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lampstack to play around with.. or just use ubuntuserver in virtualbox, so you can save snapshots
[04:44] <morph__> apt-get install php5 php5-cli php5-common php5-dev php5-mysql php5-fpm php5-mcrypt php5-memcache php5-memcached
[04:44] <morph__> shoudl do it
[04:44] <morph__> or apt-get install lamp^ might do it
[04:44] <morph__> cant remember
[04:45] <sobocanecben> Hi, where can I find a version number of my installed pinguy OS?
[04:45] <holstein> sobocanecben: ask the pinguyOS team.. usually uname -a will tell you a kernel version that can help
[04:45] <pavlos> sobocanecben, lsb_release -a
[04:46] <pavlos> sobocanecben, uname -a
[04:46] <sobocanecben> Thank you..
[05:03] <babinlonston> Hi all, I have setup-ed a Local DNS in Centos , masterdns.arrivu.local and while ping from ubuntu its not replying for masterdns.arrivu.local , I have added dns-nameserver in /etc/network/interface too but its not working, Any one guide me to fix the issue
[05:05] <dw1> babinlonston: think a local hostname would be need to set up in a DNS zone or /etc/hosts
[05:06] <dw1> babinlonston: why not just use 127.0.0.1
[05:08] <dw1> babinlonston: i use dhcp, so i installed bind9 and added nameserver 127.0.0.1 to the end of /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[05:09] <dw1> babinlonston: and added my 2 dhcp-provided nameservers and 8.8.8.8 as forwarders in named.conf.options for good measure
[05:10] <not_phunyguy> babinlonston, as far as your dns server setup in CentOS is concerned, which is where I suspect the problem is, we may not be able to help you much with that
[05:11] <dw1> oh yeah, not ubuntu :p
[05:11] <winxplague> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irMeHmlxE9s
[05:11] <not_phunyguy> winxplague, please don't do that.
[05:12] <not_phunyguy> this is not the channel for it.
[05:12] <babinlonston> Ok i have installed DNS in 192.168.1.15 with hostname masterdns.arrivu.local. And my client machine 192.168.1.50 , now I'm pinging from client machine 192.168.1.50 to dns using ping masterdns.arrivu.local its not replying for ping and if i run dig masterdns.arrivu.local the query was successfully, so what may be the issue
[05:12] <babinlonston> not_phunyguy: Ubuntu was my Client machine and im facing issue in ubuntu machines not in centos
[05:12] <not_phunyguy> ahh..
[05:13] <not_phunyguy> does centos have a firewall?
[05:13] <babinlonston> Only one server here it build with centos and other are client machine there are 30 client machines with ubuntu 12.04
[05:13] <dw1> babinlonston: how is the client supposed to find out that hostname
[05:13] <babinlonston> not_phunyguy: no its disabled
[05:13] <not_phunyguy> babinlonston, well if the client is resolving it, but ping isn't... that leads me to believe it's the ping that isn't working... not the lookup.
[05:16] <winxplague> i know not_phunyguy , sorry
[05:16] <winxplague> won't happen again
[05:17] <not_phunyguy> wrong channel I assume?
[05:17] <babinlonston> not_phunyguy: Please have a look here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7450775/
[05:17] <winxplague> yeah
[05:17] <winxplague> on a more relevant note, do any of you actually use rhythmbox
[05:18] <winxplague> i find it rather inadequate and buggy
[05:18] <dw1> babinlonston: ping the ip. if it doesnt work then its not dns issue
[05:18] <babinlonston> dw1 u right its pinging for IP
[05:19] <babinlonston> dw1: yes its pinging for ip but while i ping for hostname its not replying , what may be the issue , but other Distributions can ping with hostname and ip only i have issue in ubuntu
[05:19] <dw1> babinlonston: and host returns the ip ?
[05:19] <babinlonston> dw1: sysadmin@localhost:~$ ping 192.168.1.15
[05:19] <babinlonston> PING 192.168.1.15 (192.168.1.15) 56(84) bytes of data.
[05:19] <babinlonston> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.15: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.482 ms
[05:19] <babinlonston> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.15: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.454 ms
[05:20] <dw1> babinlonston: host <hostname> returns the ip ?
[05:20] <babinlonston> sysadmin@localhost:~$ ping masterdns.arrivu.local
[05:20] <babinlonston> ping: unknown host masterdns.arrivu.local
[05:20] <not_phunyguy> winxplague, please take offtopic banter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:21] <babinlonston> dw1: sysadmin@localhost:~$ host masterdns.arrivu.local
[05:21] <babinlonston> masterdns.arrivu.local has address 192.168.1.15
[05:21] <babinlonston> dw1: yes its giving
[05:21] <dw1> babinlonston: hmm
[05:22] <babinlonston> Will provide the interface entry
[05:23] <babinlonston> dw1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7450789/
[05:23] <dw1> babinlonston: you might want to ask in ##networking
[05:23] <dw1> babinlonston: i am far from expert :)
[05:23] <babinlonston> dw1: ok fine thanks
[05:24] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> Anyone have any experience rescuing a dying single-partition NTFS volume using raw-copy utilities like dd/ddrescue?
[05:25] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: no, but you might try http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk with sudo apt-get install testdisk
[05:27] <winxplague> i thought that was on topic because it ships with ubuntu currently sry im gonna go rtfm
[05:28] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> dw1: does that have error-recovery tools, such as re-reading "bad" sectors?
[05:31] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: "If there are read errors, TestDisk might hang. Stressing your hard disk can increase the amount of bad sectors. Would it be possible to clone your disk?"
[05:32] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Damaged_Hard_Disk
[05:40] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> dw1: fwict the issue is with the PCB of the drive, not the platters - however, I don't want to run standard dd et. al., which would just write 0 for any bad data unless it's really bad
[05:41] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Damaged_Hard_Disk#The_best_method:_Antonio_Diaz.27s_GNU_.27ddrescue.27
[05:41] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: dont know if it writes 0 or whatever sorry
[05:41] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: not sure the best recovery for PCB
[05:47] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: http://google.com/search?q=data+recovery+failing+PCB
[05:47] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: g/l
[05:47] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: maybe try ##hardware
[05:50] <meek_geek> how to auto start dnscrypt-proxy on every reboot ?
[05:53] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> dw1: thanks
[05:53] <Voyage> Hi,
[05:54] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> I was able to get the drive to present to BIOS and boot to it, but by the time I realized "holy shit it's working" and rebooted into my LiveCD to start recovery it was gone
[05:54] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> my guess is the PCB is causing it to fail to initialize
[05:54] <Voyage> I am following this tutorial http://www.installationpage.com/selenium/how-to-run-selenium-headless-firefox-in-ubuntu/  and getting this error (nothing happens and it keeps stuck on this) http://pastie.org/9167581
[06:05] <xhad> After a install my BIOS freezes when my ssd is connected.
[06:21] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: "ddrescue does not truncate the output file if not asked to. So, every time you run it on the same output file, it tries to fill in the gaps." http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/ddrescue/
[06:27] <Voyage> I am following this tutorial http://www.installationpage.com/selenium/how-to-run-selenium-headless-firefox-in-ubuntu/  and getting this error (nothing happens and it keeps stuck on this) http://pastie.org/9167581
[06:32] <vedic> Hey guys, I am running 12.04 64bit. I can play audio file youtube video but I can't record my own voice. I tried arecord test.wav and then tried playing back test.wav there is no audio in it.
[06:33] <vedic> http://pastebin.com/Prb5njfr
[06:37] <fcl4> hi, i am new to linux. is there a way to lock the ip config so it will ask root password for every change?
[06:38] <macchky> ifconfig
[06:39] <dw1> fcl4: maybe if you set up the connection manually and remove network-manager
[06:40] <fcl4> dw1: is that the only way?
[06:40] <fcl4> can standard linux account ( non admin ) change the ip configuration via network manager?
[06:41] <fcl4> i am not in front of my linux pc right now
[06:41] <dw1> fcl4: http://askubuntu.com/questions/283142/how-can-i-restrict-users-fom-changing-network-settings-and-adding-new-connection
[06:41] <dw1> fcl4: yes
[06:41] <dw1> fcl4: its for users to change the network
[06:41] <dw1> fcl4: "in order to achieve what you want, you should disable NetworkManager and use the init system to restrict the connection"
[06:42] <fcl4> dw1: big thanks
[06:42] <fcl4> going to read that and try
[07:02] <Voyage> I am following this tutorial http://www.installationpage.com/selenium/how-to-run-selenium-headless-firefox-in-ubuntu/  and getting this error (nothing happens and it keeps stuck on this) http://pastie.org/9167581
[07:03] <dw1> Voyage: take that first line starting with [dix] and put it into google.  see results. :)
[07:08] <helmut_> hi
[07:08] <Voyage> dw1,  http://pastie.org/9167698
[07:09] <dw1> continue your google Voyage http://google.com/search?q=Xvfb+Xlib%3A+extension+"RANDR"+missing+on+display
[07:09] <meek_geek> dnscrypt-proxy would not uninstall
[07:10] <xeonid_> hi guys
[07:10] <dw1> meek_geek: why not
[07:10] <salsero|2> hi heliumid_
[07:11] <meek_geek> dw1, http://dnscrypt.org/
[07:11] <meek_geek> installed using these steps
[07:11] <meek_geek> now apt cannot find it
[07:13] <artex> hi
[07:13] <dw1> meek_geek: custom compiling and installing cant really be supported officially
[07:13] <artex> is it possible to get help here?
[07:13] <dw1> meek_geek: i would google uninstall dnscrypt
[07:14] <meek_geek> dw1, what 2 do now?
[07:14] <StarOnD> Hello, is there a software for ubuntu which will allow me to see Dlink ADSL modem lights on my screen?
[07:14] <dw1> artex: possibly
[07:14] <dw1> StarOnD: no
[07:14] <dw1> StarOnD: unless you put a webcam up there and monitored it :p
[07:14] <artex> i'm at work and my ubuntu won't start
[07:15] <salsero|2> define wont start
[07:15] <StarOnD> should not be 2 difficult to write such software
[07:15] <artex> this is the error, it's scrolling over my screen
[07:15] <artex> [x.x] nouveau E[ PFIF0] SUBIF00: ch 1 [DRM] subc 0 mthd 0x0000 data 0x00000000
[07:15] <artex> the [x.x]  is increasing all the time
[07:15] <dw1> StarOnD: yes it should.. youd have to customize the modem firmware
[07:16] <dw1> StarOnD: plus it still probably wont be possible
[07:16] <salsero|2> tried using nvidia drivers?
[07:16] <StarOnD> ok
[07:16] <artex> problem started after upgrading to latest lts
[07:16] <artex> i am using nvidia drivers
[07:16] <artex> but they seem to fail after the upgrade
[07:16] <dw1> StarOnD: its a simple device not really for serious programming or networking tasks
[07:17] <dw1> StarOnD: it just reads, transforms and passes the signal
[07:17] <xeonid_> artex: did you update the drivers ?
[07:17] <StarOnD> ok
[07:17] <artex> how can I update without being able to boot?
[07:18] <xeonid_> artex: check with nouveau if work , nvidia.com download latest driver for linux
[07:19] <Ben64> you shouldn't install nvidia from their website, that is unsupported here
[07:19] <dw1> StarOnD: if its a modem+router combo you might be able to get more information with an automated login to admin area script
[07:19] <xeonid_> artex: ctrl+alt + f1
[07:19] <xeonid_> artex: so try to install from apt
[07:19] <dw1> StarOnD: like this guy did http://coredump.matthewsmith.id.au/2013/11/use-curl-to-log-adsl-modem-status/
[07:19] <artex> i'll try
[07:20] <dw1> StarOnD: basically youd be logging in browsing web pages and parsing the data
[07:20] <artex> just apt-get install nameofDriver
[07:20] <artex> sudo probably
[07:20] <artex> i'll get back
[07:20] <artex> thanks
[07:20] <xeonid_> artex: apt-cache search nvidia
[07:20] <artex> ok
[07:21] <xeonid_> artex:  this will show all packages of nvidia
[07:21] <Ben64> usually the package is nvidia-current, but you should use the hardware drivers tool to install them
[07:21] <xeonid_> Ben64: without X11 is it possible?
[07:21] <Ben64> without x11 why would you need nvidia drivers?
[07:22] <artex> X11 won't start
[07:22] <Ben64> ooh
[07:22] <artex> so how can I use hardware drivers tool
[07:22] <Ben64> jockey-text
[07:22] <artex> this is the error on boot:
[07:22] <artex> [x.x] nouveau E[ PFIF0] SUBIF00: ch 1 [DRM] subc 0 mthd 0x0000 data 0x00000000
[07:22] <artex> x.x keeps rising
[07:23] <Ben64> oh, jockey doesn't exist in 14.04 anymore
[07:23] <artex> how to fix it?
[07:23] <xeonid_> maybe better way is to  boot from ubuntu 14.04LTS cd/dvd and install without deleting /home/user
[07:24] <xeonid_> if you can't access to shell
[07:24] <artex> i can do that, but it would cost a lot of work
[07:24] <Ben64> artex: try "ubuntu-drivers"
[07:25] <xeonid_> artex: or any live cd and chroot to ubuntu then install drivers
[07:25] <dw1> ^
[07:25] <artex> chroot, long time ago :-)
[07:25] <artex> will need to look it up
[07:25] <artex> Thanks guys
[07:25] <dw1> artex: http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot #3-7
[07:25] <Ben64> or just use ubuntu-drivers tool? :D
[07:25] <artex> will post back
[07:25] <artex> oh, good link
[07:25] <artex> thanks
[07:25] <Ben64> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22118/can-i-install-extra-drivers-via-the-command-prompt
[07:26] <JC_Yang> hi, all. I need python-bzutils package, but the default repository say it's not found. where can I get it safely?
[07:26] <JC_Yang> 14.04 LTS here
[07:27] <dw1> JC_Yang: seems not to be found in trusty... you could try the saucy package if theres no conflicts http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/all/python-bzutils/download
[07:28] <xeonid_> JC_Yang: or build it from source :>
[07:28] <Ben64> using packages for a different version of ubuntu is a bad idea
[07:28] <dw1> no warranty* :p
[07:29] <geirha> JC_Yang: Go virtualenv + pip, maybe
[07:30] <dw1> JC_Yang: hmm it is on launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/python-bzutils
[07:31] <dw1> JC_Yang: but was deleted from repos for some reason
[07:39] <JC_Yang> thank u man, I'd like to try to build it from source, hope I can make it
[07:39] <dw1> JC_Yang: just use the launchpad or saucy .deb - they are the same :P
[07:40] <JC_Yang> ok
[07:48] <meek_geek> anyone knows how to uninstall dnscrypt-proxy
[07:49] <kdz> did you install it via apt-get meek_geek?
[07:50] <meek_geek> kdz, not via website instructions
[07:50] <fishsponge> does anyone know how to get the number of inodes used and available on a BTRFS filesystem over NFS? Usually I type "df -i", but with a BTRFS filesystem over NFS it's showing "0" for everything... any ideas??
[07:50] <Voyage> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":99".
[07:50] <kdz> meek_geek did you install from source?
[07:51] <geirha> meek_geek: If you still have the build dir, and the project's makefile has an uninstall target, you may be able to uninstall it by cd-ing into that dir and running sudo make uninstall
[07:51] <kdz> yeah wat geirha said
[07:51] <meek_geek> kdz, yep i download tar and then make install
[07:52] <geirha> fishsponge: run df -i on the host that actually has the btrfs
[07:52] <fishsponge> I can't SSH into the host, sadly... it's a ReadyNAS box with SSH disabled...
[07:53] <kdz> thats sad
[07:53] <kdz> ssh is your friend
[07:53] <meek_geek> geirha, kdz would the config files also go with this command ?
[07:53] <fishsponge> On my ReadyNAS Duo, over NFS I can see the inodes... but my ReadyNAS 104 seems to be running BTRFS filesystem, which isn't telling me the number of inodes over NFS...
[07:53] <kdz> meek_geek only if you add the remove all command witch geirha will explain
[07:54] <fishsponge> rsync is enabled on the ReadyNAS... but there's no way to get inodes over rsync protocol of course... so how do I do it over NFS with the BTRFS filesystem on there?
[07:57] <geirha> meek_geek: Likely not
[07:57] <meek_geek> geirha, after uninstall can i remove the respective share dir ?
[07:58] <geirha> meek_geek: If it's still there, then there probably wasn't an uninstall
[07:59] <fishsponge> does anyone know how to get the number of inodes used and available on a BTRFS filesystem over NFS? Usually I type "df -i", but with a BTRFS filesystem over NFS it's showing "0" for everything... any ideas??
[07:59] <meek_geek> geirha, but its empty unlike before
[08:03] <Guest99639> hi
[08:03] <meek_geek> Guest99639, hi
[08:05] <dw1> meek_geek: for the future you may want to look into 'checkinstall' which creates packages out of source compilations http://bootpolish.net/home_howto_uninstallapplicationsinstalledfromsource
[08:09] <dw1> meek_geek: to remove it is also possible to re-run the install with checkinstall then uninstall the package
[08:09] <dw1> meek_geek: instead of doing it manually
[08:09] <meek_geek> dw1, so checkinstall create a deb package ?
[08:09] <dw1> meek_geek: yeah
[08:10] <meek_geek> dw1, how to use it ?
[08:10] <meek_geek> make install ?
[08:10] <Bluewolf> Anyone know if there is a program that will operate my Canon Pixma MG1240 scanner, I have a program called scangearmp which is not running the gedit file?
[08:10] <dw1> meek_geek: its there at the link
[08:10] <dw1> meek_geek: checkinstall make install
[08:11] <dw1> Bluewolf: scangearmp works for me
[08:11] <dw1> Bluewolf: but it doesnt seem to save options .. what gedit file ?
[08:11] <metalbrick> How can I set the swappiness correctly in Ubuntu
[08:12] <dw1> metalbrick: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[08:12] <metalbrick> I set it using `sudo sysctl vm/swappiness=1`
[08:12] <cloudy_nz> Bluewolf: I used to use XSane
[08:13] <metalbrick> however the swap still was used immediately when the RAM is over 80%
[08:13] <Bluewolf> dw1: It also worked for me on Mint 14, now that I have moved to Ubuntu 14.04 it won't run. The packages I downloaded have a number of addon packages and a file which has the scangear but it has an INSTALL file which can be opened with gedit, that file is supposed to open int the terminal to run scangear which its not.
[08:13] <metalbrick> and `cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness` will output `1`
[08:14] <Bluewolf> cloudy_nz: I recall trying it and id did not work.
[08:15] <dw1> Bluewolf: i just run scangearmp & at terminal
[08:15] <dw1> Bluewolf: dont know bout that INSTALL file
[08:16] <dw1> Bluewolf: cant remember how i installed it...
[08:16] <Bluewolf> dw1: Sorry not sure exactly how to explain the package to you other than naming them, the .sh files are not running as they should and I have ticked the box in properties?
[08:17] <Bluewolf> dw1: Do can I run a command to run that INSTALL file in the termianl?
[08:17] <Bluewolf> *Terminal
[08:18] <CornishPasty> Bluewolf: INSTALL files are instructions on how to install
[08:19] <CornishPasty> They're essentially a more specific README
[08:19] <dw1> Bluewolf: find the debian package on canon's site.. like http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100302702.html but for your printer
[08:20] <Bluewolf> CornishPasty: dw1: This is what is in the install file but I'm not sure what it means or what to do - http://pastebin.com/GUKkJjYF
[08:22] <dw1> Bluewolf: i dont see your model at http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/?personal
[08:23] <dw1> Bluewolf: for a manual install you would follow the INSTALL and run the 3 commands... but a .deb package is preferable
[08:25] <Bluewolf> dw1:  .deb package is preferable, There are .deb packages that install the drivers?
[08:25] <dw1> Bluewolf: canon may have them
[08:25] <dw1> Bluewolf: choose your model and click software/drivers
[08:26] <fishsponge> does anyone know how to get the number of inodes used and available on a BTRFS filesystem over NFS? Usually I type "df -i", but with a BTRFS filesystem over NFS it's showing "0" for everything... any ideas??
[08:26] <dw1> Bluewolf: at the last link i sent
[08:27] <PhlowHome> Why does each user also have a group with the same name?
[08:28] <kdz> PhlowHome i also thought it was strange but its a great feature. special with jailing on proftpd
[08:28] <Bluewolf> dw1: It appears they don't have it - Canon Pixma MG1240
[08:29] <dw1> Bluewolf: are you sure.... nothing on google for that model
[08:33] <dw1> Bluewolf: are you sure thats the model
[08:33] <Bluewolf> dw1: So far nothing there ether, strange as its not as if I have not had it working in Linux. I have been on linux for years and have been running this printer fine. The packages I have work, there was only one package which would not install through the Software Center, maybe it is the reason it is not running?
[08:35] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> Does anyone know how to get a RAID 1 array managed by an Intel ICH-10R chip to show up as one device in Ubuntu?
[08:35] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: hardware raid should handle all that and make it seem like one device, no?
[08:36] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: <- noob
[08:36] <dw1> <-
[08:36] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> dw1: so it would seem
[08:37] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> I'm not sure if it's hardware raid or "hardware" raid
[08:37] <kdz> aint raid1 mirror ?
[08:37] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: well software raid wouldnt need a special 'chip'
[08:37] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> yeah
[08:37] <kdz> so what are you mirroring
[08:37] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> dw1: hopefully the windows install on another drive
[08:38] <kdz> mkay
[08:38] <kdz> did you setup your bios to use "raid"
[08:38] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> once I get the drives to sync up I'm going to dump the old drive onto the array
[08:38] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> kdz: yeah
[08:38] <kdz> kiff
[08:39] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> ?
[08:39] <Guest9600> !
[08:39] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> kdz: what?
[08:40] <kdz> kiff=ok
[08:41]  * Spidernet is away: The Spider always crawls
[08:41]  * Spidernet is back (gone 00:00:03)
[08:41] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> FWICT the only way to use a raid array like this on both Windows and Ubuntu AND boot windows off of said RAID is to use hardware "raid"
[08:41] <k1l> !away > Spidernet
[08:43] <fishsponge> does anyone know how to get the number of inodes used and available on a BTRFS filesystem over NFS? Usually I type "df -i", but with a BTRFS filesystem over NFS it's showing "0" for everything... any ideas??
[08:48] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> kdz: any help?
[08:48] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> I'm guessing dmraid is needed, but I have no idea how to pilot this thing
[08:49] <kdz> hmmwhatsthisdo|L oh i was just asking questions
[08:51] <Bluewolf>  dw1: When I try and install this package cnijfilter-mg2100series in the Software Center is saying - Dependency is not satisfiable: libtiff4. Just installed the Scangear on 12.04, so it looks like this is the package needed to get it working?
[08:51] <aum> hi - having trouble with Xdmx. I can run it ok, there are no font path issues, but when I open up program windows, they show up without any text displaying
[08:52] <gry-> what is apparmor and can I turn it off?
[08:53] <dw1> Bluewolf: well you can get the package here (64bit) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/libtiff4/3.9.5-2ubuntu1.6
[08:53] <dw1> Bluewolf: scangear might be a separate package - not sure
[08:54] <dw1> Bluewolf: oh you install it nm
[08:55] <dw1> gry-: google should tell you what it is... i have never needed to turn it off, myself.
[08:55] <dw1> gry-: which is why i know very little about it :)
[08:56] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> kdz: I found a driver for the firmware RAID chip my mobo uses, but the drivers are for RHEL and SUSE
[08:56] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> which is more like ubuntu?
[08:56] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> RHEL?
[08:57] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: prety sure RHEL uses RPM
[08:57] <Bluewolf> dw1: Yeah I installed it on my laptop which has Ubuntu 12.04 (No problems and just like Mint), But now in 14.04 it wont install that one package in the software center which I think is essential to getting it running. How can I install it through the terminal?
[08:57] <dw1> Bluewolf: which package
[08:58] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: http://google.com/search?q=Intel+ICH-10R+ubuntu
[08:58] <gry-> nope
[08:58] <gry-> more like rhel indeed
[08:58] <gry-> but i wouldnt expect drivers to be hard to repackage if theyre already coded
[08:58] <gry-> like theyre already using some linux-ey stuff.. probably already compiled or something
[08:59] <gry-> yadda yadda yadda do.. asking everyone to google is not good but i wont complain much, i know this folk will yell if its useless
[08:59] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> dw1: I have drivers up to RHEL6.1
[08:59] <dw1> Bluewolf: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449571/dependency-is-not-satisfiable-libtiff4-when-trying-to-install-lightworks-on-ubu
[08:59] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> and SLES11
[09:00] <dw1> Bluewolf: looks like you have to install the saucy package if you want libtiff4
[09:00] <dw1> Bluewolf: no guarantees...
[09:00] <Voyage> $ xrandr -d :99
[09:00] <Voyage> RandR extension missing
[09:01] <Bluewolf> dw1: I see that, let me give it a try :D
[09:01] <fishsponge> does anyone know how to get the number of inodes used and available on a BTRFS filesystem over NFS? Usually I type "df -i", but with a BTRFS filesystem over NFS it's showing "0" for everything... any ideas??
[09:06] <dw1> gry-: most of what i do is google to help people.. but if i teach them how to help themselves it serves them better.. :)
[09:06] <dw1> gry-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmor
[09:06] <Bluewolf> dw1: Is this the package I am to install? - Tag Image File Format Library (TIFF), transitional package  libtiff4-dev:i386
[09:07] <dw1> Bluewolf: no
[09:07] <dw1> Bluewolf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/amd64/libtiff4/download
[09:10] <dw1> gry-: basically its a wrapper that locks down programs from doing certain things
[09:10] <Voyage> RandR extension missing
[09:10] <Voyage> Xvfb :21 -screen 0 1024x768x24 -extension RANDR &
[09:10] <Voyage> any help?
[09:10] <dw1> gry-: so even if a program contains an exploit it may not be able to do as much harm
[09:13] <Bluewolf> dw1: Okay it worked!, the package is installed. Sadly the other package has decided it has an issue with life - Dependency is not satisfiable: scangearmp-common (>=1.80)  what now?
[09:13] <dw1> Bluewolf: get scangearmp-common and install it :)
[09:15] <Bluewolf> dw1: I'm confused - scangearmp-common_1.80-1_amd64 is the package which is installed?
[09:15] <gry-> this internet is crap
[09:15] <gry-> https://pastee.org/dxfzz in dmesg, internet keeps hopping, what to do?
[09:15] <dw1> Bluewolf: hmm, that should satisfy it
[09:16] <dw1> Bluewolf: you are on 64bit and all packages are 64 bit right
[09:16] <dw1> Bluewolf: amd64 wont satisfy an i386 package
[09:16] <CornishPasty> gry-: blame demon :P
[09:16] <smox> hey guys, I have a new Laptop with an Intel Iris pro 5200 and have some little graphicbugs, is here anyone who knows how I can update/patch my videodrivers?? :)
[09:17] <Bluewolf> dw1: I'm sure there 64 bit, scangearmp-common_1.80-1_i386.deb is also installed?
[09:17] <gry-> CornishPasty, what do I do to it for it to work? i can't even load couple web pages without it resetting
[09:18] <dw1> Bluewolf: hmm
[09:19] <dw1> Bluewolf: are you sure they're installed?  dpkg -l | grep scangear
[09:20] <CornishPasty> gry-: Is it WPA2-enterprise?
[09:20] <gry-> CornishPasty, absolutely no idea
[09:21] <CornishPasty> Also, this is gonna sound stupid, but have you tried rebooting, gry-?
[09:22] <Bluewolf> dw1: I take its not installed
[09:22] <Bluewolf> dw1: There are two packages which are not installed out of the 8 I have, the one is coming up with Dependency is not satisfiable: libtiff4 again. Though the other package that said that is installed?
[09:22] <gry-> i know it is wpa2 but the rest is greek to me
[09:23] <CornishPasty> gry-: Are you at home or an office? Do you log in with username/password or just a pre-filled password?
[09:23] <dw1> gry-: its possible a neighbour is sending deauthentication packets trying to capture your login handshake to crack it :)
[09:24] <CornishPasty> dw1: looks like it's a local deauth
[09:25] <dw1> Bluewolf: hard to say .. keep fiddling :/
[09:25] <CornishPasty> Hmm, OUI looks like it's a Netgear
[09:26]  * CornishPasty has found the problem
[09:26] <gry-> CornishPasty: home, only password, it's not prefilled
[09:26] <Bluewolf> dw1: That package you gave me to download is amd64 I think I need i386.deb?
[09:26] <Bluewolf> Don't I?
[09:26] <dw1> Bluewolf: possibly
[09:26] <dw1> Bluewolf: but if yoru system supports 64 you should use all 64
[09:27] <CornishPasty> gry-: I'm afraid I don't really know of any other suggestions. According to the deauth reasons, it *could* be the router
[09:27] <Bluewolf> dw1: Ah where do I find it because there is nothing on that site you gave me, I try to but lack of knowledge about lots of things (Linux in general does not help :D)
[09:28] <dw1> Bluewolf: just replace the amd64 with i386 in the URL: http://packages.ubuntu.com/eo/saucy/i386/libtiff4/download
[09:28] <Bluewolf> dw1: Okay trying now :D
[09:29] <parapan> hi fellows > can someone recommend an application to keep track of different changes in softwares , versions, but also private data ?
[09:29] <gry-> CornishPasty, works fine for 2-3 other computers
[09:29] <parapan> it doesn't have to be extremely complex ..just to do the task ...
[09:30] <ubuntu> lala
[09:32] <dw1> Bluewolf: try not to end up with duplicates of everything. :)
[09:33] <dw1> Bluewolf: i would try for all i386 or all amd64 with related stuff
[09:33] <dw1> Bluewolf: otherwise parts of the driver may not be able to talk to each other :/
[09:34] <Bluewolf> dw1: I fear that is the foolish mistake I am battling with, Confirm with my 64bit requires i386 packages installed?
[09:34] <dw1> Bluewolf: you should do one or the other ideally
[09:37] <Bluewolf> dw1: Understood, now my Software Center has gone funny. Its like frozen halfway through an install and when I close it an start it up its still the same? - Why do my computer issues get worse :)
[09:37] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> God, I feel like a fool
[09:38] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> trying to run make for ddrescue, and getting "c++: command not found"
[09:38] <Bluewolf> Try me :D
[09:38] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> gcc is installed
[09:38] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: sudo apt-get install gcc++
[09:39] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> says it's selecting a ton of packages for regexes
[09:39] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> "E: unable to correct problems, you have broken packages"
[09:40] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: hmmwhatsthisdo|L maybe its g++ i forget
[09:40] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> Now I really feel like a fool for not trying that
[09:40] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> thought it would have come with gcc
[09:40] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: yeah it doesnt
[09:40] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> at least the drive is presenting itself to the computer now
[09:41] <dw1> awesome
[09:41] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> hopefully I can pull everything off of it and onto the RAID
[09:43] <Saeedullah> Hello All friend
[09:43] <Saeedullah> i hope u are all fine & doing well
[09:43] <gry-> Hello. How can I help you?
[09:43] <Saeedullah> i want to share folder in ubuntu 12.04
[09:43] <Saeedullah> how can possible to share it?
[09:43] <PhlowHome> what's the ubuntu version of /usr/libexec ?
[09:44] <Bluewolf> dw1: After installing the package successfully my Software Center does not acknowledge that is installed as there is still an install button, why?
[09:44] <Saeedullah> 12.04 version
[09:44] <dw1> Bluewolf: and it shows in dpkg -l | grep <package> in terminal as installed (ii at left column)
[09:44] <gry-> Saeedullah: Ah. Give me a minute.
[09:45] <Saeedullah> okay friend
[09:45] <Saeedullah> gry brother
[09:45] <dw1> Bluewolf: ?
[09:45] <PeErLesS> whats the command that tells me whats the largest folder (in terms of content) in the current path?
[09:46] <Bluewolf> dw1: Yeah it does?
[09:47] <gry-> Saeedullah: install samba and install smbfs, then you can share folders by right-click I believe.
[09:47] <dw1> Bluewolf: sounds good.. :/
[09:47] <gry-> PeErLesS: "ncdu" is really good for this.
[09:47] <PeErLesS> gry-: thanks
[09:48] <donad_> dona
[09:48] <gry-> PeErLesS: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_MZMwAVJYoA/TqwarN6O7eI/AAAAAAAABcE/qXAiqDA6hss/s1600/folder-size-ncdu.png
[09:48] <cactuswizard> is lubuntu light enough to run smoothly on netbook?
[09:48] <gry-> PeErLesS: No problem.
[09:48] <PeErLesS> ty
[09:48] <dw1> cactuswizard: yeah
[09:48] <gry-> cactuswizard: Depends on the specs.
[09:48] <Saeedullah> gry- brotheri samba on the internet or unbuntu already have builitn
[09:49] <dw1> cactuswizard: pretty happy with it on a weak acerOne
[09:49] <gry-> Saeedullah, both samba and sambafs are installed, but you do not see 'share' option by right-click?
[09:49] <Saeedullah> okay
[09:49] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> now, better question
[09:49] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> Anyone used ddrescue to clone a drive?
[09:50] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> I need to know what options I should use/add if I'm reading to/from /dev/sdX and /dev/mapper devices
[09:50] <Saeedullah> i share but i want to access from windows xp give me this information message you don't have permisssion
[09:50] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> the manual mentions something about possibly specifying the size if it's a raw device, but I'm not sure if those are considered raw devices or something else
[09:50] <Saeedullah> how can solved this problem
[09:50] <Saeedullah> ?
[09:51] <Voyage> . how to setup proper env vars?     I mean for all consoles?
[09:51] <gry-> Saeedullah: Oh. I see.
[09:51] <cactuswizard> gry-: i don't remember the specs atm, been about two years without any use but maybe i'll give it a try anyway
[09:51] <rameshdahiya> Can anyone tell me, I updated the openssl version using download and compile, do i need to recompile apache to fix the heartbleed issue ?
[09:52] <Bluewolf> dw1: Yeah they all have ii on the left column and are all i386. The INSTALL file is still not running. libtiff4 there are two amd64 in the terminal.
[09:53] <dw1> Bluewolf: the 3 commands in the INSTALL file would be run manually, but shouldnt be needed because you installed a package version of scangear
[09:53] <dw1> Bluewolf: so what happens when you type scangearmp
[09:55] <Bluewolf> dw1: Belive it or not but it runs :D. But why does it have to be typed in the terminal?
[09:55] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> Anyone? I don't want to botch this and break the drive
[09:55] <dw1> Bluewolf: you can add an icon to run it if you like
[09:56] <dw1> Bluewolf: or alt-f2
[09:56] <rameshdahiya> does the recompilation of apache is necessary after upgrading the openssl version
[09:57] <Bluewolf> dw1: I see, I have locked it to the unity bar and it works fine. How do I add an icon?
[09:57] <dw1> Bluewolf: but as far as i know it doesnt automatically add a menu item
[09:57] <dw1> Bluewolf: good question :)
[09:59] <dw1> rameshdahiya: you shouldnt have to compile apache ever
[09:59] <Bluewolf> dw1: Yeah, I have a thing about making things worse :D. That file that is running is not from my INSTALL is it?
[09:59] <dw1> rameshdahiya: its available as a package in the standard repositories
[10:00] <Voyage>  file  /etc/environment    making and entry in this file of      DISPLAY=;99 would make an env var for all consoles        no?
[10:00] <dw1> Bluewolf: as far as i can tell you never ran the commands from the install file you just looked at it
[10:01] <dw1> Bluewolf: or did you run that make, make install stuff in terminal?
[10:01] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> oh. my. god.
[10:01] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> I think it's working
[10:01] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> ddrescue is saying it's not finding any errors yet
[10:02] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: maybe its just a loose cable :p
[10:02] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> I think the issue is PCB-related
[10:02] <Bluewolf> dw1: No all I did was type scangearmp in the terminal and it worked, when I try and double click the INSTALL file it just opens up in gedit and thats it.
[10:02] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> it wasn't identifying itself to the bios and was making some nasty clicks
[10:02] <dw1> Bluewolf: yeah then its running from the package
[10:02] <dw1> Bluewolf: the INSTALL is just a readme file telling you what commands to run.  reading it doesnt do anything
[10:03] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> I think it was the PCB thinking it couldn't initialize the disk and urgently parking the heads
[10:03] <dw1> Bluewolf: a lot of source packages have an INSTALL file that is just a readme
[10:03] <dw1> Bluewolf: its not meant to be executed
[10:04] <dw1> Bluewolf: you read it to find out what to execute. :)
[10:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> can anyone think of a safe way to check whether or not the output disk is actually getting data?
[10:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> and not just all 0s?
[10:04] <Bluewolf> dw1: Yeah but on the Ubuntu 12.04 the INSTALL file is how I was running it, it was being executed because I set it in properties?
[10:05] <dw1> Bluewolf: that sounds impossible..  the INSTALL file wouldnt run even if you made it executable
[10:05] <dw1> Bluewolf: unless it had a #!/bin/sh at the top line telling it what shell to use
[10:05] <dw1> Bluewolf: and you would notice a bunch of errors
[10:05] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> dw1: I've seen INSTALL files that were scripts
[10:05] <dw1> hmmwhatsthisdo|L: more often its install.sh
[10:06] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> there were manual build instructions that were commented out
[10:06] <Voyage> I want to set DISPLAY=:99 for ALL users/ apps and consoles. How can I set it up. ? (using export DISPLAY=:99 only gives me that for current console session) .
[10:07] <Bluewolf> dw1: I'm telling you because its working now in my Ubuntu 12.04 and there is no bash! at the top (I can put everything in that gedit file onto pastebin for you to see) the only file that has bash! at the top is called autogen.sh.
[10:07] <Bluewolf> dw1: And there were no errors ether?
[10:09] <dw1> Bluewolf: go into the folder with INSTALL in terminal.  move it to its own isolated directory (mkdir x; cp INSTALL x) then make it executable (cd x; chmod +x INSTALL) then try to run it (./INSTALL) see what happens :)
[10:11] <Bluewolf> dw1: Ah yeah you lost me, but seriously in 12.04 thats how I was running it bu the INSTALL file after installing those packages
[10:11] <dw1> Bluewolf: strange :)
[10:12] <Saeedullah> Hello All friend
[10:12] <Saeedullah> i share puble folder now i access from another computer give me this message You might not have permission to use this network resource
[10:13] <Bluewolf> dw1: I found strange results appear when I am combined with a computer, it must be a talent of mine which are mostly bad :D
[10:13] <Saeedullah> how can possible to access to open this folder from another system
[10:13] <Saeedullah> i shared folder in ubuntu
[10:13] <dw1> Bluewolf: haha :)
[10:13] <dw1> Bluewolf: only way to learn :)
[10:13] <Saeedullah> You might not have permission to use this network resource
[10:15] <Bluewolf> dw1: And I'm still learning, this is whats in the install file as is nothing changed- http://pastebin.com/VGtjHWa0
[10:15] <dw1> Saeedullah: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch09.html
[10:15] <professor_soap> hello people
[10:15] <dw1> Bluewolf: none of those commands would actually run the program, so i dont think its related to starting it
[10:16] <Saeedullah> i installed samba and share the folder
[10:16] <Saeedullah> You might not have permission to use this network resource
[10:16] <Saeedullah> when access the share folder give me this message You might not have permission to use this network resource
[10:16] <dw1> Saeedullah: you will likely need to authenticate with a user that has permission
[10:17] <professor_soap> (Novice question, need general directions) Trying to get my Ubuntu Server 14.04 to connect to my HP printer. I have apt-get installed hplib, which seems to be the drivers. But how do I actually print a page?
[10:17] <dw1> Saeedullah: it is not the easiest thing to do :)
[10:17] <dw1> Saeedullah: i usually just use dropbox :)
[10:17] <Saeedullah> why dw1
[10:17] <Saeedullah> ?
[10:19] <Bluewolf> dw1: That my be the case but thats what it did when I (In my wisdom double clicked it) after I excecuted it as a program. Perhaps I did something which I am unsure of but I highly doubt it. the file type is - installation instructions (text/x-install)
[10:20] <Bluewolf> dw1: Anyway Now that the scangear is working how do I change the icon on the dash or is that asking to much :D
[10:20] <dw1> Bluewolf: right click -> properties maybe
[10:20] <Bluewolf> dw1: On the dash, that does not work?
[10:21] <dw1> Bluewolf: i dont use unity myself.  might have to hold alt and/or the windows key at the same time to get right click menu
[10:22] <dw1> Bluewolf: could be more complicated http://askubuntu.com/questions/80627/how-can-i-change-the-icon-of-an-application-in-the-unity-launcher
[10:22] <Armag3dd0n1> how do I install flareget from the software centre in ubuntu 14.04? it's only saying I can "buy" it ????
[10:23] <Bluewolf> dw1: I guessed it would be complicated - After I ran scangear from the terminal I locked it to the bar so I don't know where the run file is located ether :D
[10:23] <dw1> Bluewolf: in terminal you can do 'which scangearmp' to locate the bniary - it will be somewhere in the system path (echo $PATH)
[10:24] <Bluewolf> dw1: Yeah thats getting complicated again :D, I will have to look into
[10:25] <dw1> Bluewolf: its in the system path, so you can run it from anywhere, and dont need to know where it is anyway :)
[10:26] <Armag3dd0n1> anyone?
[10:26] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[10:26] <Armag3dd0n1> how do I install flareget from the software centre in ubuntu 14.04? it's only saying I can "buy" it ????
[10:26] <saeedullah> authenticate with a user that has permission
[10:26] <Armag3dd0n1> ?
[10:27] <Armag3dd0n1> i can install other stuff fine
[10:27] <dw1> saeedullah: you will find samba experts in #samba
[10:27] <Bluewolf> dw1: So I could make my own shortcut of sorts with a gedit file? but I would need the path
[10:27] <dw1> Bluewolf: in terminal do which scangearmp
[10:28] <latiar> ohai
[10:29] <Bluewolf> dw1: Got it :D
[10:29] <saeedullah> how to permission to folder in ubuntu give me esay way for this issue
[10:29] <saeedullah> help me all friend
[10:30] <ikonia> saeedullah: what do you want to be able to do ?
[10:31] <latiar> mv -r /*folder* /dev/null
[10:31] <ikonia> latiar: ?
[10:31] <latiar> It's for permissioning
[10:33] <Bluewolf> dw1: You are a bright Star in the sky, Thank you very much for your time and help :D
[10:33] <dw1> Bluewolf: shortcuts may be a little tricky. try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080065&p=12334469#post12334469
[10:33] <djbeirut> Hi.. i am new to linux and i am having major packet loss to my ubuntu 14.04 vps. i don't think it's an issue with my vps provider. i think it's in my configuration. how can i troubleshoot this in ubuntu?
[10:33] <dw1> Bluewolf: you're welcome. going to watch tv for a bit.  g/l :)
[10:33] <ikonia> djbeirut: how are you measuring the package loss
[10:34] <djbeirut> ikoniai am pinging my server
[10:34] <djbeirut> Packets: Sent = 339, Received = 116, Lost = 223 (65% loss),
[10:34] <ikonia> djbeirut: so that could be many things - why do you feel it's a problem with the VPS
[10:34] <Bluewolf> dw1: Yeah I have done that before, Once again thanks. Going to eat - Enjoy your viewing.
[10:35] <djbeirut> It is NOT a problem with the vps. i think it is something with the ubuntu configuration or an attack.
[10:35] <ikonia> djbeirut: how do you know this ?
[10:35] <ikonia> djbeirut: what is your process or diagnosing this
[10:37] <djbeirut> ikonia i don't know for a fact. like i said i am really linux noob. what do i need to do to narrow the problem down
[10:37] <ikonia> djbeirut: so why do you think it's not a problem with the vps ?
[10:37] <ikonia> or why do you think it's an attack ?
[10:37] <djbeirut> i said maybe.. it's just a wild guess.
[10:38] <ikonia> 11:35 < djbeirut> It is NOT a problem with the vps.
[10:38] <ikonia> that is you stating with caps it is NOT a problem with the vps
[10:38] <djbeirut> ikonia because that's what they told me
[10:38] <ikonia> you appear to be changing what you are saying
[10:38] <ikonia> it's pretty hard to work with someone who is changing what they are saying
[10:39] <djbeirut> they said it is not a problem with the connection to the vps. attack is a wild guess from my side. another wild guess is configuration in the ubuntu. is it clear now?
[10:40] <ikonia> djbeirut: test other hosts, see if it's just that one host, or others
[10:40] <ikonia> then narrow it down
[10:40] <ikonia> be systematic
[10:40] <djbeirut> i am pinging the server not from the server
[10:40] <ikonia> djbeirut: I know, from a client
[10:40] <ikonia> so see if your client drops packets to other hosts, or just that one server
[10:41] <djbeirut> i am pinging the server from two different locations. home and work. same result
[10:41] <ikonia> so that suggests two different routes are dropping packets
[10:41] <djbeirut> yes
[10:41] <ikonia> so the one common thing is the server / route into that server
[10:41] <ikonia> so that would be the starting point to work back from
[10:44] <djbeirut> ikonia another thing is that when i reboot the server the ping to the server is stable and nice for a little while and then it starts dropping. that makes me assume that there is a service or something that is causing this. maybe maxing the bandwith or something
[10:44] <ikonia> I'd talk to whoever manages the VPS/network
[10:46] <djbeirut> is there a command that stops all the services?
[10:46] <InFierno> what network is the server hosted on?
[10:46] <djbeirut> eoreality
[10:46] <InFierno> Trust me you dont want to stop all services :)
[10:47] <djbeirut> ok.. where do i start troubleshooting then
[10:47] <InFierno> Do some tracert routes - see which hop you pkacet drop on
[10:47] <ikonia> djbeirut: talk to the people who manage the VPS/VPS network
[10:47] <ikonia> djbeirut: that is the common factor here
[10:48] <InFierno> And or go for a better host if they cant fix it
[10:50] <djbeirut> what if it wasn't a vps. what if it was my own server at home. how would i start troubleshooting?
[10:50] <Breaking_Pitt> I got  a problem with landscape with the motd in ubuntu
[10:50] <ikonia> djbeirut: it is a VPS
[10:50] <ikonia> djbeirut: so talk to them
[10:50] <djbeirut> already did... they are just too slow to answer!
[10:50] <Breaking_Pitt> Some advice please http://paste.ubuntu.com/7451807/
[10:50] <djbeirut> i don't want to wait :P
[10:50] <ikonia> djbeirut: ok, then wait for them to answer
[10:50] <ikonia> djbeirut: then escalate it
[10:56] <Voyage>  I want to set DISPLAY=:99 for ALL users/ apps and consoles. How can I set it up. ? (using export DISPLAY=:99 only gives me that for current console session) .
[10:57] <geirha> Sounds like you're asking the wrong question
[10:58] <Jaazinh> siema
[10:59] <student> fff
[11:01] <efazati> hi i want use http://askubuntu.com/questions/69804/how-do-i-change-the-keymap-of-a-single-device-logitech-presenter to change zoom keys in my keyboard to page down page up but there is not /lib/udev/keymap. what i can do?
[11:07] <minimec> efazati: Is this a USB keyboard? Otherwise, this would not work. Do the 'zoom' keys give some keycode (open 'xev' in a terminal, put the mouse cursor in the 'xev' window, press the 'zoom' keys and check the output in the terminal'...
[11:08] <efazati> minimec, yes its usb keyboad
[11:08] <efazati> minimec, say nothing
[11:09] <efazati> minimec, but with sudo evtest /dev/input/event3 say Event: time 1399892942.572261, type 1 (EV_KEY), code 419 (KEY_ZOOMOUT), value
[11:11] <minimec> efazati: That's ok then. That means, that the system can see the keys.
[11:11] <murosai> how is the apt-cache search list sorted? it currently seems completely random
[11:13] <efazati> minimec, how map it zoomkey to pagedown?
[11:14] <minimec> efazati: I do such stuff with the 'xbindkeys' software. I use that software for keyboard shortcuts for my webcam and so on... http://www.butlerpc.net/blog/2011/01/using-xbindkeys-on-ubuntu-linux-to-remap-key-commands/
[11:15] <efazati> minimec, tnx
[11:19] <efazati> minimec, what is page down action?
[11:20] <timh> I am getting a new nvidia card but my old card is nvidia... I know the procedure for installing with the nvidia driver but what should I do for the old stuff?
[11:21] <timh> if I want to try the latest driver
[11:26] <minimec> edwardly: xev output for 'page-down': keycode 117 (keysym 0xff56, Next)
[11:27] <philinux> timh;~ revert to the nouveau driver before installing new card I would say
[11:27] <pirx> hello! i upgraded to 14.04, and a bunch of keyboard shortcuts have disappeared (for window management specifically, like maximizing and closing windows etc). i cant see those shortcuts in system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts anymore
[11:28] <pirx> anyone recognizes this?
[11:30] <philinux> pirx;~ press and hold the Win key to see all shortcuts
[11:34] <timh> philinux: really?
[11:34] <timh> so uninstall nvidia packages from the repo and then install nouveau?
[11:34] <timh> so, that means, the nvidia installer will black list nouveau during the install?
[11:34] <timh> it's been a while since I've installed that way
[11:37] <philinux> timh;~ you could leave system as is and just put new card in a boot up see what you get
[11:37] <timh> well, it's an older driver version - legacy
[11:38] <timh> philinux: I had to use it because the current card was only supported up to a certain (legacy) ver. driver
[11:38] <philinux> timh;~ and the new card is?
[11:38] <timh> gtx 750
[11:39] <Lulzifer> hola
[11:39] <ubuntu-newbie> hello together, can someone help me ? i have installed ubuntu 14.04 unity 2 days ago. now i have seen that my notification envelope is not in my panel. after a restart it was gone. :(
[11:39] <Lulzifer> xubuntu!
[11:40] <Lulzifer> alguien usa xubuntu?
[11:41] <philinux> timh;~ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214805
[11:41] <Lulzifer> hablais español?
[11:41] <DJones> !es | Lulzifer
[11:42] <Lulzifer> oh muchas gracias!
[11:42] <philinux> timh;~ looks like a little bit of work to get that card up and running
[11:43] <guest3456734> installed ubuntu 14.04 but its missing pvh support for xen any one tried xen's new pvh
[11:44] <Voyage> if tomcat is launched as system service, can it see system enviremnet variables?
[11:45] <timh> philinux:  not sure why that guy had so much trouble
[11:45] <timh> philinux:  it should work with Ubuntu 13.10 even
[11:45] <philinux> timh;~ you'll soon find out. pretty easy to pop old card back if you need to
[11:46] <timh> yes
[11:46] <timh> philinux:  but, it's so easy for driver conflicts.... :)   I updated my driver by mistake recently with my old card
[11:47] <philinux> timh;~ hope it goes well.
[11:47] <timh> oops = should say upgraded
[11:47] <timh> philinux: thanks
[11:47] <timh> philinux:  I know the steps for installing, just not uninstalling and what to remove :)
[11:48] <philinux> timh;~ me - I would probably install the nvidia-current-updates or whatever it called now. Then shutdown an swap the cards and reboot
[11:48]  * philinux is a bit gung ho though
[11:49] <philinux> timh;~ recovery mode to fix stuff if borked
[11:49] <Seannie> ack. software updater runs, downloads AND installs all without asking me for my password... how come?
[11:50] <philinux> Seannie;~ normal behaviour now
[11:50] <philinux> Seannie;~ unless say a new kernel is being installed for instance
[11:50] <Seannie> but... buttt... but i thought processes could not run without you supplying root password
[11:51] <philinux> Seannie;~ not needed now for updates to already installed software
[11:52] <Seannie> fine. as long as its canonical i guess. good to know that my machine hasn't got the first instance of a linux virus
[11:52] <philinux> Seannie;~ happened a long time ago. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Update_Manager_doesn.27t_prompt_for_security_updates
[11:52] <Seannie> :P
[11:52] <timh> oh, cool... I found instructions... yes
[11:54] <philinux> Seannie;~ new software would need password. Like a new kernel
[12:00] <fearnothing> hi guys, quick question about hardware
[12:00] <fearnothing> lspci isn't very specific about my NIC chipset
[12:01] <salsero> ok..
[12:01] <fearnothing> it says RLT8111/8168/8411
[12:01] <fearnothing> I need to identify precisely which one of those and which version
[12:01] <fearnothing> can I do that, and if so how?
[12:01] <salsero> lspci -vvvx ?
[12:01] <fearnothing> p.s. booting from livecd if that makes any difference
[12:03] <salsero> lspci -vvvx -d [<vendor>]:[<device>]
[12:07] <fearnothing> ok, that's really weird
[12:07] <fearnothing> using lspci -nn
[12:07] <fearnothing> it gets me the vendor/device as [10ec:8168]
[12:07] <salsero> fear nothing when using the command
[12:08] <fearnothing> but the specs on the manufacturer's website say the NIC is 8111E, not 8168, and various other sources are telling me it's 8111G
[12:09] <fearnothing> so now I'm really confused.
[12:09] <fearnothing> anyway, what were you about to say salsero?
[12:10] <salsero> nothing, I already said what I had t say
[12:10] <salsero> fear nothing when using the command, use it to the full
[12:11] <fearnothing> if you mean the exact command as you wrote it, I thought I needed the vendor and device ID hex for it to work?
[12:12] <aceofspades> yo
[12:13] <aceofspades> did anybody ever fix the chntpw package ???
[12:13] <aceofspades> seems broken in all distros
[12:13] <fearnothing> anyway if I type
[12:13] <fearnothing> lspci -vvvx -d 10ec:8168
[12:13] <fellicity> hey guyz..
[12:14] <fearnothing> part of the info it gives me is that it's using kernel driver r8169
[12:14] <fearnothing> which is another chipset again
[12:14] <fearnothing> so  this exercise to narrow down exactly what it is that my board's running hasn't been very successful :P
[12:18] <philinux> fearnothing;~ what does sudo lshw reveal
[12:19] <aceofspades> grr
[12:19] <cancer> hi, i want to install ubuntu on win 8. I am not sure of UEFI/CSM thing, Coz i have installed windows 8 again and its working in CSM | Non-secure boot. Now i want to know which ubuntu version with what bits need to be downloaded for installation. i want to make dual boot....
[12:22] <philinux> fearnothing;~ I use the package hardinfo to look at the pci stuff. Nice gui
[12:26] <fearnothing> give me  a minute philinux
[12:26] <fearnothing> just restarting
[12:27] <pirx> philinux: is that (pressing and holding win-key) a unity thing? i use gnome...
[12:31] <shan> hi, i want to install ubuntu on win 8. I am not sure of UEFI/CSM thing, Coz i have installed windows 8 again and its working in CSM | Non-secure boot. Now i want to know which ubuntu version with what bits need to be downloaded for installation. i want to make dual boot....
[12:33] <six86> Hello. I'm working on a automativ installation witht the 14.04 DVD image. It worked fine with the atomic recipe, but when I use a custom expert recipe, I have to Click "Install now" to proceed. Is there a way to automate this?
[12:34] <shan> Ubuntu/kubuntu.... etc are all same. i mean, is it different to ask question in other channel or same staff/user there.
[12:34] <shan> their*?
[12:34] <kdz> six86 i think custom/expert was designed not to be automatic
[12:35] <shan> am i visible!!
[12:35] <six86> kdz: they're in the official debian docs?!
[12:35] <DJones> shan: Generally you can ask questions on any of the UBuntu releases here, although sometimes you may get more specific help in the kubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu channels for those releases
[12:36] <kdz> six86 what is?
[12:36] <fellicity> I need a command for checking the internet or connection speed on the terminal..
[12:37] <six86> kdz: ?
[12:37] <shan> DJones | So, any suggestions regarding my question!!
[12:39] <DJones> shan: I'm not sure, I've only done one install alongside Win 8, I used Ubuntu 14.04 for a fresh install after disabling secureboot (I think), and it worked without any issues for me
[12:39] <perlsyntax> hey
[12:40] <fellicity> smbdy should assisst me with the above command..
[12:40] <shan> DJones | ok. so latest release is working fine. does dual boot work fine.
[12:41] <fearnothing> dammit
[12:42] <fearnothing> he quits just as I get the lshw info
[12:42] <shan> Ubuntu 14.04 << does 32/64 bits matter?
[12:42] <DJones> shan: Dual boot works fine for me, the only issue I've had once was in a Win 8 to Win 8.1 update overwrote grub, but that was solved running a grub install command
[12:42] <fearnothing> for anyone who fancies helping me with this chipset problem
[12:42] <kdz> fearnothing
[12:42] <fearnothing> lshw gives me the same info as lspci -
[12:42] <kdz> theres no easy way to check inet
[12:42] <minimec> fellicity: Basic information... 'nm-tool | more' in a terminal
[12:42] <fearnothing> "product - RLT8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller"
[12:43] <fearnothing> kdz - so what's the hard way?
[12:43] <fearnothing> or any hard way if there's more than one
[12:43] <kdz> fearnothing installing gui, download chrome and running speedtest
[12:44] <shan> Djones | any suggestions about 32bits or 64bits download....! : )
[12:44] <DJones> shan: I've not had any issues with 64 bit
[12:45] <fellicity> Thanks minimec...it worked just fine...
[12:45] <DJones> shan: I haven't tried 32 bit on this hardware
[12:45] <shan> Djones | i'm not sure of 64 bits, coz i tried to install an application of 64bits and i think they never worked.
[12:45] <minimec> fellicity: no problem
[12:45] <fearnothing> wait what? how's that going to help me?
[12:46] <fellicity> minimec: btw I was wondering if there is a way of reducing the number of hops....to reach a given server...
[12:46] <DJones> shan: I've been using 64 bit for about 2 years, I've not had anything fail to work so far, but I'm only using things from the official repo's
[12:47] <shan> 32 bit should work fine on this machine type.
[12:47] <shan> right!
[12:48] <fearnothing> kdz - how does chrome and speedtest help me determine my NIC chipset?
[12:48] <fearnothing> if it's not found by lspci or lshw
[12:48] <kdz> [14:37] <fellicity> I need a command for checking the internet or connection speed on the terminal..
[12:48] <fearnothing> oh lol
[12:48] <kdz> oh lol
[12:48] <kdz> tab error
[12:49] <fearnothing> so... you got any tips for me?
[12:49] <shan> DJones | thanks for the info. i'll try 32bits for now. will post here with results.
[12:49] <fearnothing> but don't call me felicity :P
[12:49] <shan> brb
[12:49] <DJones> shan: This might be worth a read http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support I don't know if it still applies, but seems to suggest that 32 bit doesn't work with uefi installs
[12:49] <fellicity> #kdz  you can use nm-tool | more or nm-tool | less
[12:50] <minimec> fellicity: I guess that is in the hand of your provider.
[12:50] <DJones> shan: Or at least isn't a simple install
[12:50] <me-1> hi...how can I check free space on my hard disk
[12:50] <dino82> df -h
[12:50] <fellicity> #me-1 you can use df -h
[12:51] <shan> Djones | yes, but i'm not an expert on this case. i have disabled secure boot, fastboot/startup and uefi from Bios. what else i need to make it confirm about UEFI type....
[12:52] <me-1> thank you
[12:52] <DJones> shan: I'm as much in the dark as you, probably best seeing if anybody else in the channel knows, as I said, I think I struck lucky getting it working first time & I'm still not 100 certain whether it was fastboot or secure boot I disabled
[12:53] <gallois__> hello... I am using a realtek rts5227 sd card reader and it won't recognize my sd card. If I get the same sd card in an usb card reader, it works flawlessly. I've seen some launchpad issues regarding the rts5227 kernel module in previous releases, but could find nothing about the problem I am going through. Any hints?
[12:53] <shan> fastboot and secure boot is to make usb/dvd work for boot, that's all i figured.
[12:55] <gallois__> Actually, it recognizes the sd card, but won't mount it. dmesg says mmcblk0: unknown partition table
[12:55] <shan> Djones | i think win 8 is 64bit. but i can't boot into win 8 when options are set to "Secure boot" and "UEFI" from BIOS. i can currently Boot into Window 8 with CSM option in bios.
[12:56] <shan> Djones | i have repartitioned the drive last days and win 8 which came with laptop is removed, so i have installed fresh win 8 and it's not installed with uefi option set.
[12:56] <fearnothing> kdz - any more ideas on how to determine exactly which chipset is in my box?
[12:57] <DJones> shan: All I can say is good luck, seems like your more experienced with it than me
[12:58] <shan> DJones | atleast you are running Ubuntu. so it doesn't make me more experienced anyway. Thanks for your support. : ).
[12:58] <DJones> shan: No probs, good luck
[12:58] <kdz> fearnothing
[12:59] <kdz> uh goto bios, get motherboard manufacture and google :P
[13:00] <six86> So preseeding still stuck at ubiquity partition page... Have to click "Install now" to proceed... Any ideas?
[13:00] <riverloop> hi, anybody using unity tweak? I cant start that thing now. :(
[13:03] <shan> kdz | isn't CPU-Z/G works in ubuntu?
[13:04] <minimec> riverloop: try to launch 'unity-tweak-tool' in a terminal. Maybe you get an error indicating why the software fails to start.
[13:08] <Pici> fearnothing: have you looked at the output of sudo lshw | less   ?
[13:09] <fearnothing> Pici - yes
[13:10] <Grexeo2> Is it possible to create a RAID 1 array at installation time with only one drive? (I intend to add the other drive later)
[13:10] <fearnothing> and the information in there conflicts with both the other pieces of information I have so far
[13:10] <fearnothing> which also helpfully conflict with each other.
[13:10] <fearnothing> ok, here's the rundown
[13:11] <foofoobar2> Hi. My backup tool did a wrong synchronisation attempt and deleted my whole Picture folder (!!!). The files are on a SSD disk and were instantly removed. I have now booted from livecd and mounted the disk as RO. I already tried extundeleted, but this does only find about 1% of all files.
[13:11] <fearnothing> Shuttle's website says the Z87R6 has a Realtek 8111E NIC
[13:11] <foofoobar2> PhotoRec does find more, but also only a minor subset (5%). Is there something else I can try ?
[13:11] <fearnothing> which should work with vmware esxi 5.5
[13:12] <Grexeo2> Does Ubuntu allow you to create a RAID 1 array during installation with only one drive?
[13:12] <fearnothing> however, the LAN won't work with esxi, and when I search for answers, vmware geeks tell me that model is actually using 8111G
[13:13] <fearnothing> but when I do lspci, it tells me the NIC vendor/hardware ID is 10ec:8168, and it's using the 8169 kernel driver
[13:14] <fearnothing> so now I'm really confused - the symptoms of the problem match the description of 8111G, the manufacturer is telling me it's 8111E, and the hardware is telling me it's 8168.
[13:14] <fearnothing> what
[13:14] <fearnothing> the
[13:14] <fearnothing> fffffffff.
[13:15] <fearnothing> http://garotasgeeks.omelete.uol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/gg_ffffffffuuuuuu.jpg
[13:20] <dfrank_> hi guys. A question about apt-get: I have put deb package (firefox_27.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_i386.deb) into the /var/cache/apt/archives , but 'apt-cache madison firefox' does not return that I can install version 27. I also tried to call 'apt-get update', no result. I know I can just install deb package with dpkg, but I'm wondering how to make apt-get to know about the package? Is there some special command to rescan cache? Can't find in man apt
[13:21] <Codmadnesspro> Can someone help me with this error when I open terminal getpt failed: No such file or directory
[13:21] <ted20> dfrank_: You want come back to firefox without "new design"?
[13:23] <Pricey> dfrank_: You'd have to add it to an apt repository that you checked.
[13:23] <dfrank_> ted20: I want =), but I already did it with special plugin for firefox29. Well it is not perfect, but it's better to have latest firefox because of security reasons. My question is not directly related to firefox, it is just for example. How to make apt-get to know about the package I manually put in the cache?
[13:24] <ted20> dfrank_: Yeah, Look at midori
[13:24] <ted20> drean: http://midori-browser.org/
[13:25] <ted20> drean: i'm sorry
[13:25] <ted20> dfrank_: adblock, noscript, ghostery are included ;)
[13:26] <dfrank_> ted20: wow, adblock, ghostery and so on - sounds interesting. Why is it better than just firefox, then?
[13:26] <kdz> adblock + = love
[13:27] <dfrank_> ted20: I mean, I already use adblock+, ghostery and so on, in firefox
[13:28] <Codmadnesspro> Can someone help me with this error when I open terminal getpt failed: No such file or directory
[13:28] <dfrank_> Pricey: you mean, if ubuntu developers remove some particular version from its server, but this version IS in my cache, I anyway can't install it with apt-get, right? dpkg only?
[13:29] <ted20> dfrank_: Because it's faster than firefox, creaded by open source community, check yourself ;), Ah, add this repo before download http://midori-browser.org/download/ubuntu/
[13:29] <Pricey> dfrank_: apt always tries to install the latest. Actually you might be able to do "apt-get install package=version" but i might also be just getting mixed up with yum..
[13:30] <Pici> Pricey: you can, but only if version is in the repos.
[13:30] <Pici> iirc.
[13:30] <Pricey> dfrank_: I doubt that'll work if you've just cp'd it to your cache and it isn't in the repos though..
[13:30] <dfrank_> Pricey: I hoped there is some special command to rescan the cache, or something like that. Then yeah, I would write 'apt-get install package=version'
[13:30] <ted20> dfrank_: I don't recommend use old firefiox version, it maybe has a errors
[13:31] <dfrank_> ted20: Agree. But, I'm tired of browsers changing the design
[13:32] <dfrank_> ted20: Actually several years ago I was a huge Opera fan, but after several redesigns with no way to return "as it was before", I switched to firefox
[13:32] <Codmadnesspro> :(
[13:32] <Codmadnesspro> :(
[13:32] <Codmadnesspro> Can someone help me with this error when I open terminal getpt failed: No such file or directory
[13:32] <Pricey> dfrank_: Might as well dpkg -i it and then apt "pin" it if you're that worried.
[13:33] <ted20> dfrank_: Yeah, it's uncomfortable...
[13:33] <dfrank_> Pricey: tried, doesn't work
[13:33] <Pricey> dfrank_: Error?
[13:34] <dfrank_> Pricey: nope, it just still unaware of this version
[13:34] <Pricey> dfrank_: (Oh and of course... when you're exploited because you were intentionally running an old package it's your fault)
[13:34] <Pricey> dfrank_: dpkg -i /path/to/.deb ?
[13:34] <ted20> dfrank_: If you want firefox, so, maybe firefox-esr?
[13:34] <dfrank_> Pricey: oh, I mean, yes, it IS installed with dpkg, but apt-get is still unaware of this version
[13:35] <Guest47470> how do I shutdown x, not just lightdm on xubuntu
[13:35] <Pricey> dfrank_: apt listens to the repositories.
[13:35] <dfrank_> Pricey: got it, thanks.
[13:35] <Pricey> !pin
[13:35] <Pricey> dfrank_: ^
[13:35] <k1l> Guest47470: if you stop lightmdm it will stop the x
[13:35] <Codmadnesspro> omgawd can someone help'???
[13:35] <Codmadnesspro> Can someone help me with this error when I open terminal getpt failed: No such file or directory
[13:36] <Guest47470> k1l: amd proprietary driver installation says x is still running when I enter service lightdm stop
[13:36] <dfrank_> Pricey: yeah I know about it, but what I want is to easily return to the previous version of the package, if I don't like new version for any reason.
[13:36] <ted20> dfrank_: Ah, midori looks like firefox http://linuxcritic.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/midori_screenshot_cannot_connect.jpg
[13:36] <k1l> Guest47470: are you on tty1? why dont you use the fglrx packages from ubuntu?
[13:36] <dfrank_> Pricey: it's usually too late to 'pin' it, when it is already upgraded, and there is even no old archive in the cache
[13:37] <Pricey> dfrank_: apt just wraps dpkg, use dpkg to install the old version. Pin it if you don't want to update it.
[13:37] <Pricey> dfrank_: This is one of the reasons we have the cache.
[13:37] <goeo_> hi
[13:37] <ido370> Codmadnesspro: did you change something in fstab file?
[13:37] <goeo_> so I have an install USB made with unetbootin
[13:37] <Codmadnesspro> I just installed xfce gui
[13:37] <Guest47470> k1l: the fglrx is the package I have installed but it won't use it. I tried ati-config --initial to set it up but get the error about x
[13:37] <Codmadnesspro> thats all i've done
[13:37] <dfrank_> Pricey: I'm not sure why, but after I upgrade system, old packages are removed from the cache.
[13:38] <qstrahl> Is there a way to add, for example, upload to dropbox/imgur/etc to the screenshot tool?
[13:38] <goeo_> And when I boot from it, it goes straight into the
[13:38] <ice9> is it possible to direct application sound to a certain speaker like right/left, or internal speaker and headphone?
[13:38] <goeo_> grub's shell mode
[13:39] <dfrank_> ted20: yeah thanks, I already checked screenshots of course, I'll try it soon!
[13:39] <ido370> Codmadnesspro: itś got to be something in your fstab file which is messed up :)
[13:39] <goeo_> any idea what is wrong?
[13:39] <mmazing> ice9, are you using pulseaudio?
[13:40] <ted20> dfrank_: I don't remeber look at settings ;)
[13:40] <Codmadnesspro> Ok ill look into it
[13:42] <Codmadnesspro> Theres no files in fstab.d
[13:42] <ice9> mmazing: I think 14.04 is using it right?
[13:44] <Codmadnesspro> Can someone tell me why there is no files in fstab.d
[13:44] <dfrank_> Pricey, ted20, thanks for help guys
[13:46] <Codmadnesspro> Can someone tell me why there is no files in fstab.d
[13:47] <Pici> Codmadnesspro: Why do you expect files to be in /etc/fstab.d/ ?
[13:48] <joevegas> hello
[13:49] <mmazing> ice9: try looking into pulseaudio volume control, there's some neato options in that, it might be able to do what you're asking
[13:49] <Codmadnesspro> Back
[13:49] <Codmadnesspro> I have an error when I open terminal
[13:50] <fidel__> Codmadnesspro: feel free to post the error-message ;)
[13:50] <Codmadnesspro> Let me open irc on vps
[13:50] <ulty> I am experiencing difficulty on my desktop with 12.04.  I have no wired or wireless connection recognition.  I attempted to remove the program that is not compatible with my OS but to no avail.  Help.
[13:51] <gebruiker> hi
[13:51] <ulty> hi
[13:51] <Codmadnesspro_> Ok so when i open terminal i get getpt failed: No such file or directory.
[13:51] <Guest80365> what do we discuss here today
[13:52] <ido370> Codmadnesspro: check /etc/fstab
[13:52] <Codmadnesspro_> Theres no folder like that the closest thing i could get to is fstab.d
[13:52] <Codmadnesspro_> but there is nothing in it
[13:52] <DarkStar1> just a qq. the service scripts in /etc/init/*.conf are they regular bash scripts?
[13:53] <ulty> DarkStar1 are you directing me?
[13:54] <Codmadnesspro_> So how do i fix getpt failed: No such file or directory.
[13:55] <DarkStar1> ulty: IU don’t understand
[13:55] <rundll32>  /j freebsd
[13:56] <ulty> My internet connection for my desktop with 12.04 is INOP.
[13:56] <DarkStar1> ulty: I want to know since the scripts in there don’t seem to have the shebang .
[13:56] <Codmadnesspro_> So how do i fix getpt failed: No such file or directory.
[13:59] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> Can someone recommend a hex editor/viewer?
[14:00] <ulty> Is there a command that can give me what you want *(Shebang) in terminal?
[14:00] <Codmadnesspro_> So how do i fix getpt failed: No such file or directory.
[14:01] <DarkStar1> ??
[14:03] <Codmadnesspro_> So how do i fix getpt failed: No such file or directory.
[14:08] <Codmadnesspro_> So how do i fix getpt failed: No such file or directory.
[14:08] <Onliner> hello there, i installed a 64bit desktop on an amd , but the registered kernel comes as "generic", anything i should do to run on native 64bit os?
[14:11] <genii> Onliner: If the result of command: uname -m  says "x86_64" then you're using 64bit
[14:13] <Codmadnesspro_> So how do i fix getpt failed: No such file or directory.
[14:14] <Onliner> genii: output is "i686"
[14:14] <geirha> Codmadnesspro_: it means /dev/pts/ is missing for whatever reason. Possibly udev isn't running
[14:15] <Codmadnesspro_> hOW DO I RUN IT?
[14:15] <Onliner> genii: am trying to install a package that only comes in 64 bit, that s how i noticed my install is not running 64bit, apt complains about wrong architecture
[14:15] <Codmadnesspro_> Woops caps
[14:16] <geirha> Codmadnesspro_: sudo service udev start
[14:16] <foofoobar> Hi. I was here some hours ago because a script did an accidential rm -rf on my images folder. I'm on a SSD with ext4. I already run extundelete, which only found about 1% of the files.
[14:16] <foofoobar> Is there anything else I can do ?
[14:16] <Codmadnesspro_> How do i run udev btw its xfce os
[14:16] <genii> Onliner: First check if your cpu is 64 bit:  What does result of command: sudo lshw -C cpu| grep width     ..say?
[14:16] <foofoobar> I also run photorec which found a bit more, but still less than 5%
[14:16] <Codmadnesspro_> How can i run that as command if i cant open terminal
[14:16] <dw1> 7/last onliner
[14:17] <geirha> Codmadnesspro_: Alt+F1
[14:17] <geirha> err, Ctrl+Alt+F1
[14:17] <Onliner> its an amd six core, its 64bit, output you request is 64bits
[14:18] <Codmadnesspro_> Nothing comes up and i cant open terminal because of that error
[14:18] <Onliner> genii: confirmed, its 64bit cpu,
[14:18] <dw1> Onliner: generic is the normal kernel
[14:19] <mmazing> weirdest crap ever .... my lock screen would not take my password, thought i was going crazy, and it wasn't caps lock
[14:19] <mmazing> had to reboot, and then password magically works
[14:19] <Onliner> dw1: the one i have is the wrong architecture
[14:19] <dw1> Onliner: so you didnt install 64bit desktop.......
[14:20] <genii> Onliner: I'd probably try: sudo dpkg --ad-architecture amd64     ...and then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   ( to install the 64 bit versions of all the stuff you already have)
[14:20] <Onliner> genii: sounds like a plan
[14:20] <genii> Onliner: Then after that, try to install the current 64 bit kernel
[14:20] <Codmadnesspro_> I just can't fix the error Failed to execute child. getpt failed: No such file or directory.
[14:21] <dw1> Codmadnesspro_: alt-f2
[14:21] <Onliner> genii doas that last step have a (ahem) oneliner command? :)
[14:21] <Onliner> ohh,..
[14:22] <Codmadnesspro_> It does nothing
[14:22] <Codmadnesspro_> OS is xfce
[14:23] <Oneliner> dw1 am running on a system that gave me issues on the soutbridge(nvidia chipset), could that be a factor for the installer to somehow default to a generic kernel on install?
[14:23] <geirha> hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't give you a virtual console?
[14:23] <dw1> Oneliner: as far as I know all up-to-date kernels say generic . they do for me
[14:23] <Codmadnesspro_> Nothing at all
[14:24] <robjloranger> hurray for reverse bisecting lol
[14:24] <helichopter> hey guys, i think my hard drive just started to fail, the system went into read-only mode. i'm trying to salvage what i can by putting my important files on a usb. but because of the system's current state it won't let me mount a usb. is there anything I can do?
[14:24] <dw1> helichopter: boot a live cd
[14:24] <mmazing> helichopter: i would boot a live cd
[14:24] <Oneliner> oh ok heres another question on user case: i burnt both 32 and 64 desktop ISO images, they boot fine but, i didint mark the cds, how can i find out which is which ?
[14:25] <dw1> Oneliner: boot then run uname -m
[14:25] <Codmadnesspro_> Omg nothing works >.<
[14:25] <Oneliner> ahh right
[14:25] <Oneliner> clever
[14:25] <robjloranger> helichopter: you could try to remount in read/write.. sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[14:25] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> helichopter: ddrescue
[14:26] <dw1> Codmadnesspro_: you broke it.
[14:26] <Codmadnesspro_> broke what -.
[14:26] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> do you have a second drive ready?
[14:26] <helichopter> dw1: mmazing: i'm sorry, i'm unfamiliar with this stuff, would i just shut down my current system, boot into a live cd and then be able to retrieve the files on the hard drive?
[14:26] <dw1> Codmadnesspro_: reboot doesnt help? :)
[14:26] <helichopter> robjloranger: in the worst case, would I lose my files?
[14:26] <Codmadnesspro_> Its only the terminal that wont open
[14:26] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> helichopter: not necessarily
[14:26] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> you could lose data if you mounted the drive RW
[14:26] <dw1> helichopter: youd have to mount the ubuntu partition
[14:27] <hmmwhatsthisdo|L> do you have a drive at the ready? (i.e. one of the same size that you can copy to)
[14:27] <Codmadnesspro_> Also i have to contact my vps company to reboot it ._.
[14:27] <dw1> helichopter: like mount /dev/sda5 /mnt or something
[14:27] <geirha> Codmadnesspro_: oh a vps, so you don't have access to its console?
[14:27] <robjloranger> helichopter: you need to mount it RW using a live cd then you can backup anything, so long as the drive lives that long
[14:27] <dw1> helichopter: then you files will be at say /mnt/home/user
[14:27] <robjloranger> helichopter: if it's even dying that is
[14:28] <Oneliner> dw1 here s a one up: poping the live cd into the tray,.. normal iso burn give the cd a word length name :D
[14:28] <SunSoul> Hey eveyrone, I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04. Installatio went fine, and internet works fine. When I rune apt-get update, it says W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Help lease?
[14:28] <dw1> Oneliner: there ya go
[14:28] <Codmadnesspro_> Ugh im never going to fix this ._.
[14:28] <ramos> I'm having major trouble with upgrading ubuntu 12.04 lts to 14.04. Can someone assist?
[14:29] <robjloranger> what's the trouble ramos?
[14:29] <genii> Oneliner: Apologies on lag, work required me. ... if it doesn't automatically install the 64 bit kernel ( which with only apt-get upgrade and not apt-get dist-upgrade, it should not install new kernels)  then you can issue a line like sudo apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r):amd64   (or specify a specific kernal version)
[14:29]  * genii wanders back to work
[14:29] <sakang> imho, better fro fresh install Ramo
[14:29] <dw1> Codmadnesspro_: ask your provider nicely to google the error and fix it :)
[14:29] <k1l> !ltsupgrade
[14:30] <Codmadnesspro_> My server isnt managed :(
[14:30] <Codmadnesspro_> My server isnt managed :(
[14:30] <ramos> robjloranger, when I run the sudo apt-get upgrade from command line. I get errors with zoneminder?
[14:30] <helichopter> okay, so i'm currently studying for finals and don't really want to focus on this too much. I don't have a spare drive, the largest usb i have is 256 mb, i have a shoddy laptop with about 300 mb in free space, and no cds to put a live boot on. how can I best preserve my important files?
[14:30] <dw1> Codmadnesspro_: is there a serial console you can access
[14:31] <ramos> robjloranger, I've also tried to upgrade via update manager with no success either
[14:31] <dw1> Codmadnesspro_: so you can boot it without the normal OS
[14:31] <Codmadnesspro> I can use putty
[14:31] <robjloranger> ramos: as k1l and skang pointed out, a fresh install would be best as lts to lts isn't supported until 14.04.1
[14:31] <dw1> Codmadnesspro_: so you can get a terminal then
[14:31] <Codmadnesspro> But I can't on the gui
[14:32] <robjloranger> ramos: which is july 24th
[14:32] <robjloranger> or so
[14:32] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: well then you can probably fix it
[14:32] <DrGrov> Hi. Any good mind mapping creation tool that anyone has used in 13.10 64-bit?
[14:32] <k1l> ramos: robjloranger no need for reinstall. you can use the developer upgrade channel with -d
[14:32] <geirha> Codmadnesspro: So do it from putty
[14:32] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: googling the error there are people who have solved that issue
[14:32] <k1l> ramos: please pastebin the exact error
[14:33] <robjloranger> ooh, sorry ramos. k1l could you fill him in
[14:33] <Codmadnesspro> I have already but not even the folder name is correct
[14:33] <geirha> Codmadnesspro: what folder name?
[14:34] <ramos> k1l, ok I'll run the apt-get upgrade and paste the errors of the output
[14:34] <Codmadnesspro> Fstab.d
[14:34] <k1l> ramos: apt-get upgrade doesnt get you to 14.04
[14:35] <ramos> k1l, ok I'll run the update manager and show the output from that then
[14:35] <robjloranger> ramos, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   will upgrade distributions
[14:35] <ramos> robjloranger, ok will do
[14:35] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: try sudo mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts
[14:36] <k1l> robjloranger: but it will still not get you to 14.04. ubuntu uses the update-manager to get to a new release
[14:36] <daveeejr> can anyone help me get hibernate back in the menu in 14.04? i am having issues with the policykit
[14:36] <Codmadnesspro> OK I've done it now what?
[14:37] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: now terminal works? :p
[14:37] <Codmadnesspro> Ywy
[14:37] <Codmadnesspro> Yay
[14:37] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: that thing is mounted by initscripts
[14:37] <geirha> now how did that get unmounted in the first place ...
[14:37] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: so reinstall initscripts
[14:37] <Codmadnesspro> Do I have to run that every reboot?
[14:37] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: not when its really fixed
[14:37] <Codmadnesspro> Oh ok
[14:38] <Codmadnesspro> Thanks :D
[14:38] <robjloranger> k1l, oh ya.. jeeze, i need to have more coffee before helping. do-release-upgrade .. :)
[14:38] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall initscripts
[14:38] <Codmadnesspro> Ok
[14:38] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: then reboot with shutdown -r now to test it :p
[14:39] <robjloranger> k1l: i'm also trying to narrow down a kernel bug.. tesiting lots of kernels
[14:39] <xerxas> Hi all !
[14:40] <Codmadnesspro> Well I have to email my service because if I reboot manually the network won't work but thanks anyway
[14:40] <robjloranger> hello xerxas
[14:40] <ramos> k1l,  I just pasted the errors of my output from the upgrade attempt...Do you see it?
[14:40] <daveeejr> anybody?
[14:40] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: well you wont know if it worked til then
[14:40] <robjloranger> what's the i
[14:40] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: reinstalled ok?
[14:40] <robjloranger> link ramos
[14:40] <Codmadnesspro> Yes
[14:40] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: k
[14:40] <Codmadnesspro> Thanks
[14:40] <xerxas> I want to mkfs.btrfs a block device that is currently ext3 , umounted but I get "device or resource busy", mount doesn't show the device mounted, lsof doesn't find nothing, the only thing I found is a kernel thread named [jbd2/xvdb-8]
[14:41] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: thank the google gods. they make me seem smart. :p
[14:41] <Codmadnesspro> XD when I looked on Google I found nothing
[14:41] <xerxas> is this process culprit for the fact that I can't mkfs ?
[14:41] <ted20> xerxas: Maybe you can try kill it?
[14:41] <xerxas> if so , how do I stop it ?
[14:41] <ramos> robjloranger, http://paste.ubuntu.com/ramos
[14:41] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: i put xfce then the error
[14:41] <ted20> xerxas: Maybe can you try kill it?
[14:41] <xerxas> ted20: tried it ;)
[14:41] <Codmadnesspro> Oh xD
[14:41] <Codmadnesspro> I never did that I just pasted error
[14:42] <ted20> xerxas: with -sig-kill?
[14:42] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: first sub-result of first result :p
[14:42] <robjloranger> ramos that link doesnt work, it's a 404
[14:42] <xerxas> kill -9 $pid / kill -15 $pid , doesn't work
[14:42] <xerxas> ted20: yes
[14:42] <Codmadnesspro> Ahhh
[14:42] <Codmadnesspro> I c
[14:42] <dw1> Codmadnesspro: cant post the link cause its competing linux distro forum :)
[14:42] <ramos> robjloranger, try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7452656/
[14:42] <Codmadnesspro> K
[14:43] <daveeejr> can anyone help me get hibernate back in the menu in ubuntu 14.04? i am having issues with the policykit
[14:44] <suriya> i cant view anything on facebook...help!!
[14:44] <ted20> suriya: too bad :(
[14:44] <dw1> suriya: sometimes their site messes up for a short while
[14:44] <robjloranger> ramos, this is a bit out of date but i think it will still work for you. have a look here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zoneminder/+bug/940632/comments/4
[14:45] <suriya> but i have tried reloading several time...
[14:45] <dw1> suriya: what happens
[14:46] <mozzarella> guys
[14:46] <ted20> xerxas: it's unremovable device?
[14:46] <mozzarella> where can I find ubuntu bold? (the font)
[14:46] <xerxas> ted20: it's on ec2 ;)
[14:46] <robjloranger> also ramos, seeing as a fix was released in 2012 you might want to consider filing another bug report
[14:46] <xerxas> ted20: but I'm searching if I can somehow "eject" the device
[14:46] <suriya> it says Done...but i cant see any of my post...
[14:46] <xerxas> ted20: I'm not sure it's this process that makes the disk busy
[14:46] <ted20> xerxas: it's a optical device?
[14:47] <justaquickmacq> hello, I just broke my laptop and need a new one FAST. what is the current 'workingness' of trusty on macbookpro? the ubuntu wiki only shows problems with older ones. so does this mean nsw ones work? and how is hidpi support?
[14:47] <dw1> suriya: so you see part of the site not all of it ?
[14:47] <xerxas> ted20: strace'ing mkfs.btrfs show open(..., O_EXCL) = -1 EBUSY
[14:47] <xerxas> ted20: no
[14:47] <robjloranger> mozzarella: http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Ubuntu
[14:48] <SunSoul> A forum suggested for me to uninstall ubuntu-extras-keyring and reinstall it
[14:48] <SunSoul> I did that
[14:48] <robjloranger> not wait, try here mozzarella, the download link http://font.ubuntu.com/
[14:48] <ramos> robjloranger, ok I did those commands and it said Zoneminder was successful. Does that mean I can try the upgrade now?
[14:48] <SunSoul> and I cannot reinstall it
[14:48] <dw1> suriya: if so, that's not uncommon.. sometimes happens.  your posts are just hidden temporarily
[14:48] <suriya> only the top most page,where i see my prof and home
[14:48] <robjloranger> yes ramos, give it a shot
[14:48] <SunSoul> Trying to fix this.
[14:48] <SunSoul> Hey eveyrone, I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04. Installatio went fine, and internet works fine. When I rune apt-get update, it says W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Help lease?
[14:49] <dw1> suriya: its a facebook bug
[14:49] <dw1> suriya: they will come back after some time
[14:49] <mozzarella> robjloranger: how do I download it
[14:49] <suriya> yes k...Then i will see it...
[14:49] <robjloranger> on this page http://font.ubuntu.com/ on the left side there is an orange download button
[14:49] <dw1> suriya: one thing that -may- fix it, is to go into Activity Log where you will see your posts, and set one to Highlighted, then turn it back to normal
[14:50] <dw1> suriya: if that doesnt help, you'll just have to wait a while
[14:50] <robjloranger> mozzarella: the package has the whole font family
[14:50] <justaquickmacq> SunSoul, did you try a different mirror?
[14:50] <SunSoul> justaquickmacq how do I change the mirror?
[14:51] <robjloranger> ramos, i have to reboot to test another kernel. i'll be back in a minute
[14:51] <mozzarella> robjloranger: I'm missing ubuntu bold, though…
[14:51] <suriya> yes k...thanks
[14:51] <dw1> suriya: :)
[14:51] <robjloranger> mozzarella, in the package from that page?
[14:51] <ramos> robjloranger, roger bro, I'll be here
[14:51] <mozzarella> robjloranger: yes
[14:52] <justaquickmacq> SunSoul, settings in software updater
[14:53] <robjloranger> mozzarella, I just d/l the package an there is both bold and bold italic. Ubuntu-B.ttf and Ubuntu-BI.ttf
[14:53] <robjloranger> brb
[14:55] <fearnothing> anyone in here own a shuttle PC?
[14:55] <fearnothing> I'm trying to flash the BIOS and having major problems
[14:55] <mmazing> chromium has really turned into a pile of shit lately, flash refuses to work on multiple computers, and now it is crashing with segmentation faults
[14:55] <OerHeks> fearnothing, join ##hardware for such issues
[14:56] <mozzarella> robjloranger: http://i.imgur.com/qIQuvJk.png
[14:56] <robjloranger_> i was too fast boo _
[14:56] <justaquickmacq> mmazing, flash is not supposedmto work in chromium anymore. it is no longer behind updated.
[14:56] <robjloranger_> mozzarella, scroll down
[14:56] <robjloranger_> any luck ramos?
[14:57] <KGM70> justaquickmacq, flash works fine in chromium here
[14:57] <mozzarella> robjloranger_: it's not there…
[14:57] <mozzarella> I have ubuntu mono bold but not ubuntu bold
[14:57] <mmazing> i suppose segmentation faults are working as intended as well
[14:57] <ramos> robjloranger see this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/7452757/
[14:57] <justaquickmacq> KGM70, which version is it?
[14:58] <robjloranger_> mozzarella, did you extract and install the font from the package?
[14:58] <mozzarella> robjloranger_: I just put them inside ~/.fonts
[14:58] <laurita> hola
[14:58] <robjloranger_> i 'think' you might need to open the font manager to install them
[14:59] <justaquickmacq> KGM70, you probably have 11.2 unless you added a 3rd party build. There are plentt of sites that wont work properly in 11.2
[14:59] <robjloranger_> ramos: how did you do your upgrade?
[14:59] <KGM70> Adobe Flash Player - Version: 13.0.0.182 Shockwave Flash 13.0 r0
[14:59] <ramos> robjloranger_,  update-manager -d
[15:00] <robjloranger_> ramos: could you try sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[15:00] <KGM70> justaquickmacq, on 14.10 here btw
[15:01] <ramos> robjloranger_, ok will give it a shot
[15:02] <ikonia> KGM70: how are you getting flash 13 in linux
[15:02] <justaquickmacq> KGM70, is that the pepper one?
[15:02] <ikonia> KGM70: adobe has dropped flash before 12
[15:02] <ramos> robjloranger_, says no new release round
[15:03] <dw1> ramos: you would need the -d as well
[15:03] <justaquickmacq> ikonia, it's standard in google chrome bur he said he had chromium so it's a hack of some kind, probably the google chrome one via pepper
[15:03] <robjloranger_> ramos: did any of the three conditions apply to you in the error you got? are you running a pre release version of ubuntu? or have any unofficial packages installed?
[15:03] <ikonia> justaquickmacq: I'd like him to explain so it's clear please.
[15:04] <dw1> ramos: i think
[15:04] <KGM70> justaquickmacq, yes pepperflash-plugin
[15:04] <ramos> dw1, ok just did it
[15:04] <KGM70> justaquickmacq, not a hack , it's in the repos
[15:04] <ikonia> it's not a solution
[15:04] <ikonia> KGM70: which repo is it in ? a PPA ?
[15:05] <ikonia> !info pepperflash-plugin
[15:05] <justaquickmacq> KGM70, that is a hack, just someone else's hack :-)
[15:05] <KGM70> nope justaquickmacq , in multiverse
[15:05] <OerHeks> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[15:05] <ikonia> it's not in multiverse
[15:05] <ikonia> ahhh nonfree
[15:05] <ikonia> there we go
[15:05] <ikonia> thank you OerHeks
[15:05] <OerHeks> or this ppa > https://launchpad.net/~skunk/+archive/pepper-flash
[15:05] <justaquickmacq> ikonia, iy's a 3rd party ppa, it;s the same player g.chrome has, nothing surprising just nonstandard for chromium
[15:06] <ikonia> justaquickmacq: yeah, I'm not interested in that stuff, it's too dirty a product
[15:06] <ikonia> OerHeks: thank you
[15:07] <justaquickmacq> ubuntu wiki does not cover compatibility with NEW macbooks pro. do they work and how is hidpi/retina support? in trusty
[15:08] <ikonia> justaquickmacq: still seems to be the font bug
[15:08] <ikonia> justaquickmacq: other than that seems supportible,
[15:08] <KGM70> still works fine ikonia ..and I call it clean if itdoesn't do any damage, since FF can't handle flash on some sites that chromium can
[15:08] <neccs_admin> Hello Ubuntu Community, Im new to the linux environment and represent a school. I was wondering if anyone here knows of a free program that can help me manage several student edubuntu computers from a centralized computer?
[15:08] <neccs_admin> any help is appreciated?
[15:08] <ikonia> neccs_admin: there are many tools, but they are not a two minute job, they require a little bit of experience to setup
[15:09] <OerHeks> neccs_admin, first that comes in mind is edubuntu-server?
[15:09] <ikonia> neccs_admin: I suggest you pay a consultant local to you to set it up, then you can manage it easy
[15:09] <justaquickmacq> ikonia, font bug?
[15:09] <ikonia> justaquickmacq: there is a bug where the fonts don't render properly due to the retina resolution
[15:10] <neccs_admin> thanks ikonia and oerHeks, so you both sugest using an edubuntu server?
[15:10] <ikonia> neccs_admin: the server doesn't matter, the tool being used to manage the clients does
[15:11] <justaquickmacq> ikonia: thank you
[15:11] <robjloranger_> mozzarella: did you have any luck? had you previously restarted your session after copying the fonts into your directory?
[15:11] <neccs_admin> ok, thank you ikonia. I'll search for some tools and see what I can do.
[15:12] <justaquickmacq> neccs_admin, how many workstations?
[15:13] <mozzarella> robjloranger_: yes I did restart, no, no luck
[15:13] <mozzarella> I still can't find it
[15:13] <robjloranger_> did you try the font manager?
[15:14] <robjloranger_> any progress ramos?
[15:14] <mozzarella> robjloranger_: http://i.imgur.com/5BUzA0W.png
[15:15] <neccs_admin> 18 workstations for now
[15:15] <mozzarella> it's there apparently… but I can't find it in gnome tweak tool
[15:15] <mozzarella> weird
[15:15] <ramos> robjloranger_, its still running
[15:15] <robjloranger_> ramos: ok
[15:16] <robjloranger_> mozzarella: that is weird, maybe an issue with gnome tweak
[15:16] <neccs_admin> justaquickmacq, we have 18 workstations
[15:17] <mmazing> in chromium-browser package, in every computer i own, flash plugin is completely missing from chrome:plugins ... has anyone here had any experience manually adding libflashplayer.so to chrome?
[15:18] <OerHeks> mmazing, happens only on a 64 bit system with 32 bit flash AFAIK
[15:18] <mmazing> yeah, that seems to be my problem, running 64-bit 14.04
[15:18] <OerHeks> mmazing, just make a softlink
[15:18] <justaquickmacq> neccs_admin, ok you should be fine - good luck with the project (had you said several hundred it would a much harder problem)
[15:19] <robjloranger_> mmazing: i am running 64bit. let me check chromium
[15:19] <mmazing> i copied libflashplayer.so into the plugins directory but it is ignoring it
[15:19] <robjloranger_> mmazing: mine works
[15:20] <robjloranger_> 14.04 here too
[15:20] <mmazing> robjloranger_: in "chrome:plugins" where does it list the location of the .so file?
[15:20] <robjloranger_> mmazing: one sec
[15:20] <robjloranger_> i don't have a flash plugin
[15:20] <robjloranger_> ?
[15:20] <justaquickmacq> mmazing, stupid question but do you really need flash? if just youtube, they have html5 now. flash doesn't work on newer mobile devices and they get by ok
[15:22] <mmazing> justaquickmacq: pandora :)
[15:22] <mmazing> i think i found a workaround
[15:22] <robjloranger_> mmazing: so it seems i have to the same problem. no flash player. let me check firefox
[15:22] <mmazing> robjloranger_: does pandora work for you?
[15:22] <oneliner> i got told how yeaterday but i forgot, what is the location i need to add a conf file to make changes i made with rmmod and modprobe permanent?
[15:23] <mmazing> firefox works perfectly fine for me
[15:23] <robjloranger_> mmazing: if i were in usa :(
[15:23] <robjloranger_> mmazing, i personally don't use chrome
[15:23] <timb> hi everybody. i'm  trying currently to use an ipv6-address in the config file of xl2tpd as a listen address. but everytime xl2tpd says that it can't find the ip-address. does anyone have already experience with xl2tp and ipv6?
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> !info pianobar | mmazing
[15:26] <robjloranger_> mmazing: have you tried gnash?
[15:26] <surs> Which linux version is best suited for my old intel celeron pc??
[15:26] <robjloranger_> it's in the repos i think
[15:26] <justaquickmacq> mmazing: the streamidng service? aren't they html5 now?
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> mmazing: pianobar trumps all other pandora delivery methods
[15:26] <masin1> hello! we use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS among other OSses at our NGO. our employees should be able to log into wifi networks without being sudoers. I found a polkit rule that enabled all NM actions for members of a specific group but this then allowed our users to display the network secret for the network at our main office. as I see it, the problem lies within NetworkManager or nm-applet in trying to set up new wifi networks for all users instead of just 
[15:27] <robjloranger_> mmazing: i think it's mozilla-plugin-gnash
[15:27] <OerHeks> surs, try xubuntu or more lightweight Lubuntu
[15:27] <robjloranger_> mmazing: or pepperflash
[15:28] <robjloranger_> be back again, yet another kernel to test :)
[15:28] <surs> k...I will try it...
[15:31] <foofoobar> ln -s /foo/bar foobar; rm -rf foobar/; <-- Does this really remove all the files in /foo/bar and not just the symlink?
[15:33] <mmazing> pianobar you say. i've been using pithos occasionally
[15:34] <SchrodingersScat> mmazing: yeah, pithos uses pianobar, afaik
[15:34] <SchrodingersScat> foofoobar: yes, in fact that seems to preserve the symlink and symlinked folder on my machine, removing only the internal files
[15:35] <SchrodingersScat> foofoobar: but rm foobar seemed to take out the symlink only.
[15:35] <foofoobar> SchrodingersScat, yeah I do not know why I used that -rf here.. I just deleted 60GB of images..
[15:36] <phuh> Question --> What's the difference between "reload", "reread", and "update" in supervisorctl?
[15:36] <foofoobar> I'm trying to recover them since a few hours now. They were on a ssd (ext4), looks like I cant recover them.
[15:36] <shan> cannot install Ubuntu on win 8.
[15:36] <foofoobar> I think I have 80% of them backed up to an external disk.
[15:36] <mmazing> so this is a bit off-topic, but i really don't like the interface for things like pithos, it would be so much nicer as a "panel" icon like the volume control or the messaging center in unity, anyone have any info on developing stuff like that?
[15:37] <mmazing> does unity in 14.04 still use dbus?
[15:37] <foofoobar> I did not know that rm -rf symlink/ acts like a hard-link
[15:37] <KGM70> shan, using a vm?
[15:37] <SchrodingersScat> foofoobar: oh wow
[15:37] <shan> no, i'm currently in live session.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: if yuou use recusion then probably, why are youusing force too?
[15:38] <shan> KGM70 | i somehow booted linux from USB but on step where to choose partition. it won't show partitions but a single partition as free space.
[15:38] <robjloranger> shan, no. you can however install ubuntu on your computer
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: you can test by making dummy data then test
[15:38] <neccs_admin> thanks you justaquickmacq
[15:39] <shan> robjloranger | it's not detecting any OS on machine.
[15:39] <ramos> robjloranger, check this out  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7452895/
[15:39] <robjloranger> shan: what is the device name that is does show? sd* or hd*
[15:39] <KGM70> shan, recommend you prepartition your drive with gparted live media, before installing ubuntu
[15:40] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, yeah, anyway it's too late now.. The data is lost
[15:40] <foofoobar> I managed to do a dd of my whole partition. But the sdd seems to be really fast, I dont know how 60GB can be deleted in less than a second.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: this is why I asked why force and recusion was used.....
[15:40] <robjloranger> ramos: hmm, and you don't have any unofficial packages installed?
[15:40] <geoffw8_> Hi all - wondering if you can help - how might I add this PPA to using the command line? It doesn't follow the usual format does it? http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/
[15:40] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, yeah it was a mistake
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: I always question it, its a really bad habit users get from i dont know here
[15:41] <ramos> robjloranger, don't think so
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: people love learning the hardest ways possible
[15:41] <surs> im currently in ubuntu 5.04.i386...how to update it??
[15:41] <rypervenche> foofoobar: I have done that before. The final slash makes a different when you're using -r. Without the / it removes the symlink. With it, it removes the contents of the directory. Next time don't use -r when you want to remove a symlink. Very important.
[15:41] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, yes.. I got used to use -rf nearly always
[15:41] <rypervenche> foofoobar: Always take backups. :)
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: not wise
[15:41] <foofoobar> So it was a "lets delete this symlink", and a second later it was gone
[15:42] <shan> robjloranger | sda
[15:42] <foofoobar> rypervenche, the sad thing is: I was configuring my backup folder for sync with a remote store
[15:42] <robjloranger> ramos: i'm not sure. you might want to try a bug report. unless anyone else here has any ideas
[15:42] <foofoobar> While doing this I wanted to remove the symlink and removed all files
[15:42] <foofoobar> :o
[15:42] <shan> robjloranger | SDA as a free space.
[15:43] <robjloranger> shan, not sure why it isn't showing up. are you intending on keeping windows?
[15:43] <shan> yes, i'm trying to keep that.
[15:43] <shan> robjloranger | it's maybe UEFI thing issue.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: the symlink is a file, so deleting it as a file will work, if th symlink is to a folder it will recursively delete if you use '-r'
[15:44] <foofoobar> Yeah, I think I understood what I have done wrong :/
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: time to break out the backups
[15:45] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, yes. But I will try getting the missing 20% I have not backup'd
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: d'oh
[15:45] <foofoobar> Any other ideas isntead of extundeleted I can use?
[15:45] <shan> i have now downloaded ubuntu latest version, so maybe will not face this parition issue again. but here i'm again. same free space issue.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: foremost, will take ages and will 'recover' the existing files too
[15:46] <foofoobar> Some years ago when I was still using a HDD I could recover files easy. With this SSD now I have the sad feeling that this is not going to work?
[15:46] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, ages = hours?days? its a 194GB backup I did with dd
[15:47] <dw1> foofoobar: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk maybe. apt-get install testdisk
[15:47] <robjloranger_> sorry shan, if i missed anything after asking if you are keeping windows. my connection froze up. i'm testing for a network bug in the kernel :(
[15:47] <foofoobar> dw1, tried the photorec from testdics, but it also just found about 1% of the files
[15:48] <shan> yes, i'm trying to keep win 8 too.
[15:48] <shan> robjloranger | i have now downloaded ubuntu latest version, so maybe will not face this parition issue again. but here i'm again. same free space issue.
[15:48] <shan> robjloranger | it's maybe UEFI thing issue.
[15:48] <SchrodingersScat> Thought ssd made file recovery like that harder..
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: any data area which has had new files made on, that once had the data on then the data is gone
[15:49] <robjloranger_> shan, ok. i would download and burn a gparted cd. use that to resize windows and leave some empty space for linux. the ubuntu cd can format the empty partition you create.
[15:49] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, after removing I emidiatly shut down and booted via livecd, then did the DD
[15:49] <foofoobar> but still bad results with extundeleted. I will try foremost now!
[15:50] <shan> robjloranger | i have unallocated space around 5 Gb and also 25 Gb ext3.
[15:50] <swdev> what can i do with Linux ???
[15:50] <robjloranger_> shan: so you already have windows and free space?
[15:50] <robjloranger_> swdev: what can't you do?!
[15:51] <shan> yes, i do.
[15:51] <sudormrf> hey guys, I received a rather troubling message from my 12.04 server today saying that I had basically no free space left on the main drive.  Basically nothing gets stored on the main drive.  Using disk utility I don't see where the storage is being eaten up at.
[15:51] <robjloranger_> shan: and when you run the ubuntu installer it only shows one free space?
[15:51] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: I would say 'Install ncdu' but you don't have any free space :/
[15:51] <genii> swdev: Almost anything, it's just a matter of how much time and/or effort you want to put into it
[15:51] <robjloranger_> shan: no windows or others
[15:52] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, I was able to remove some things and free up a few GB of space
[15:52] <swdev> i have no idea...plzz help me do something useful??
[15:52] <shan> no, only free space.
[15:52] <shan> nothing else.
[15:52] <justaquickmacq> sudormrf, double check with df -h and df -i
[15:52] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, just not sure why this happend all of a sudden.  installing ncdu now.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> swdev: what can you do in Windows?
[15:52] <genii> swdev: "something useful" is pretty vague :)
[15:52] <robjloranger_> shan: that is very strange. what did you use to resize/create partitions?
[15:53] <bobin> Hi folks. Can someone help me with setting Java_home? I have googled and googled and cant get it to work?
[15:53] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: ok, yep, that might give you a clue
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> bobin: what is the output of:   file `which java`
[15:53] <shan> robjloranger | a friend of mine installed win8. so basically it's done from within the win 8 setup.
[15:53] <Armag3dd0n1> anyone know of a good vpn for ubuntu that doesn;t keep logs?
[15:53] <sudormrf> justaquickmacq, df -h says the disk is 90% used.  df -i shows something different I think?
[15:54] <bobin> ActionParsnip: /usr/bin/java
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: why not disable logging in the solution you have now....
[15:54] <sudormrf> justaquickmacq SchrodingersScat df -h gives me this: /dev/sda1       103G   87G   11G  90% /
[15:54] <swdev> oh no...i dont know how to make linux useful??im a beginner...
[15:54] <Armag3dd0n1> what you mean?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> bobin: ok, what is the output of:   file /usr/bin/java
[15:54] <sudormrf> justaquickmacq SchrodingersScat df -i gives me this /dev/sda1        6823936 785776   6038160   12% /
[15:54] <sl33k_> I can't run heroku. After the wget here https://toolbelt.heroku.com/debian if I type heroku login, I get command not found. Any help?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> bobin: this is trhe actual output of the command I gave, which you didn't run
[15:54] <dw1> sudormrf: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-large-files-linux/
[15:55] <robjloranger_> shan: ok. well then i would still create a gparted cd, boot that and see if you can recreate your partition setup. being careful not to touch the windows partition of course. maybe the partition map is messed up, it was microsoft after all :)
[15:55] <justaquickmacq> Armag3dd0n1 freenode on login claims to be sponsored by privateinternetaccess vpn company
[15:55] <sl33k_> whereis heroku shows /usr/bin/heroku
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: I suggest you contact the package maintainer
[15:55] <sudormrf> dw1, hmm.  good find, let me see if that will help
[15:55] <bobin> ActionParsnip: Sry, did not know that:( /usr/bin/java: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/java'
[15:56] <dw1> sudormrf: id check /var/log first
[15:56] <shan> robjloranger | what exactly you are suggesting? : )
[15:56] <sudormrf> dw1, for largeness?
[15:56] <dw1> sudormrf: yeah
[15:56] <Armag3dd0n1> yeah, £20 for a year.
[15:56] <ldiamond> sl33k_, and I assume 'which heroky' returns /usr/bin/heroku ?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> bobin: ok and the output of:   file /etc/alternatives/java
[15:56] <dw1> sudormrf: maybe some arent being rotated...
[15:56] <sudormrf> dw1, that was the first place I was thinking this may have been an issue.  I have an idea of what that may be, too.
[15:56] <shan> robjloranger | you want me to merge/change the size of windows partition.??
[15:56] <nick0r0> Greetings humans
[15:56] <bobin> ActionParsnip: /etc/alternatives/java: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java'
[15:57] <robjloranger_> shas: using a gparted live cd; i would remove all the extra partitioning other than windows, then in that free space create an ext* partition and maybe a swap too.
[15:57] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: -i is inodes
[15:57] <robjloranger_> shan: no. just fix the other partitions.
[15:57] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, I don't know what that means, unfortunately :S
[15:57] <justaquickmacq> ActionParsnip: I think he was referring to the VPN provider doing tne logging
[15:57] <sl33k_> ldiamond: Does not return anything
[15:57] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, I just looked it up
[15:57] <robjloranger_> shan: how much ram do you have?
[15:57] <shan> other partitions !
[15:58] <shan> 2 G.b
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> bobin: getting there, what is the output of:  cd /usr/lib/jvm; ls
[15:58] <ldiamond> sl33k_, echo $PATH | grep /usr/bin
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> bobin: you may need a pastebin for that one
[15:58] <ldiamond> sl33k_, seems to me that /usr/bin isn't in your PATH for some reason.
[15:58] <ldiamond> sl33k_, maybe you override PATH somewhere.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:59] <robjloranger_> shan: yes, the etx3 that is there. when you boot gparted you will see - windows, ext3, unallocated space. so delete the ext3 and create another in the empty space, and also maybe about 1 gb for swap space.
[15:59] <bobin> ActionParsnip: Im getting this: java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64  java-7-openjdk-amd64
[15:59] <bobin> java-6-openjdk-amd64      java-7-oracle.
[15:59] <bobin> ActionParsnip: Patebin?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> bobin: nar thats good enough :)
[15:59] <sl33k_> ldiamond: that gave /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[15:59] <robjloranger_> shan: the reason is that i suspect the partition map is screwy, so using something reputable like gparted to remake it should fix the issue
[15:59] <shan> robjloranger | i already have created swap.
[16:00] <bobin> ActionParsnip: Sometimes I get lucky:)
[16:00] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS \n \l is the o/p
[16:00] <LeMike> hello. at startup the screen shows the same error hundred times but I can't find it in the kern.log . where might it be and how to find it?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: is this a desktop OS?
[16:00] <shan> robjloranger | is it possible to install gparted in live USb right now.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> bobin: try:    export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/bin/java
[16:01] <robjloranger_> shan: i know, but with a windows partitioning tool. so i am recomending trying again with gparted. just removing and recreating the linux partitions. leaving the windows one alone
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: with mouse pointer and Firefox web browser?
[16:01] <robjloranger_> shan: you can try to run gparted
[16:01] <shan> it will be easy for me, incase someone help me with that. i'm not much of linux guy. : )
[16:01] <robjloranger_> shan: type in the search
[16:01] <foofoobar> so I have two folders A and B. B is a subset of A. The filenames are not the same and the structure inside is also not the same. Some files in them are the same. I want to get a list of files which are in A but not in B. How can I do this ?
[16:02] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:02] <mmazing> foofoobar: you want to do a comparison of the file contents or just filenames?
[16:02] <bobin> ActionParsnip: only that?
[16:02] <Peanut> Hi, when installing a new machine with 14.04LTS, its network interfaces are now called p255p1 and p255p2 - why the odd number, and how to correct it?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: then its no longer supported
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: Lucid is no longer supported on the desktop
[16:02] <LeMike> foofoobar: find . -type f -exec basename {} \;  will give you a list of filenames only. play around with that
[16:03] <LeMike> foofoobar: sort them and then diff them e.g. ;)
[16:03] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: Is the upgrade smooth to 14.04?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: you will need to upgrade to 12,04 first
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: http://www.unixcl.com/2008/03/compare-two-directories-using-diff-bash.html
[16:03] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, this is really bizarre to me.  I am thinking it is what dw1  had suggested about a log not being properly rotated, but still investigating.
[16:04] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, but diff does not work if the structure of the folders to compare are not the same
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: I'd just do a clean install on 14.04 you will get to the goal quicker and you wont have the fluff from the old install
[16:04] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: did 'ncdu /' give you any clues?  if it's your logs, then you would expect /var/ to be near the top of the list.
[16:05] <LeMike> foofoobar: didn't the diff on filenames work?
[16:05] <seeme1> i cant watch videos in linux also games...
[16:05] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: Will my data be safe? How would I backup?
[16:05] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, well....I am using greyhole which is making it hard to sort out.  /var is at the top, but this because that is also the mount point for the greyhole drives.
[16:05] <giannello> hi everyone - is there a way to disable PERMANENTLY systemd-udev from renaming network interfaces?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: the same way you backup now....
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: you do have a backup, right?
[16:05] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: ah, I see
[16:06] <bobin> ActionParsnip: No Java in specified path in JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/bin/java
[16:06] <bobin> Set the variable to a valid Java installation
[16:06] <bobin> Is what i get after only that when i try to run a java file
[16:06] <giannello> it's horribly BROKEN, every time the machine boots some interfaces are renamed as "renameX" (with X being a number), and you can imagine what happens if that interface is part of a bond (it's a freshly installed firewall with 10 NICs)
[16:07] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, so I am drilling down in to each item looking at the actual space used.  It says /var/ is 4.2TB.  The main drive is a 120gb SSD, the current size of all the files in the pool is 4.2TB so that is accurate. so I am subtracting that and seeing what is going on.
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> bobin: then you can run:  unset JAVA_HOME   and undo the set :)
[16:07] <giannello> I tried adding "net.ifnames=0" to /etc/default/grub and running update-grub - no effect
[16:07] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: I'm clueless about it. What do you recommend? Does the backup mean only my hardrive or also file system config. Pardon my ignorance.
[16:07] <LeMike> again: I got multiple errors at startup that are shown before lightdm is there and the splash screen is shown. hundred times the same error. where might I find that error message in the log?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: just worked here, the diff command showed the files which were unique
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: copy the files you want to keep, this is what a backup is
[16:07] <giannello> I also _deleted_ /lib/udev/rules.d/71-biosnames.rules (the only rule which supposedly renames interfaces) and IT STILL RENAMES
[16:08] <bobin> ActionParsnip: Okay, Can I do something else?
[16:08] <seeme1> I have photos etc in my pendrive with a ubuntu iso mage...can i still make my pendrive succesfully bootable and install new os??
[16:08] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: Would you trust your harddrive?
[16:08] <giannello> right now ubuntu 14.04 LTS is not able to survive a reboot - and that's extremely wrong
[16:09] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, I think I found the problem! :D
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> bobin: its that kind of folder you need to set. Maybe the guys in #java can help
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: no and having more than one copy of your important data is wise
[16:09] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: Is there any way I don't have to install my software again and again after backup?
[16:09] <genii> giannello: Maybe give each a persistent name in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules according to MAC
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: too many times do I see people bleating about their 'important' data when they dont have a backup. Their system doesnt boot or gets corrupted then they want their data. Its mind bogglingf
[16:10] <bobin> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tip, i can allways ask:)
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: the software will all need updating and installing from the Trusty repos
[16:10] <foofoobar> thanks, I will try this!
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: you can make a package list to reinstall
[16:11] <compdoc> giannello, you can turn off that Consistent Network Device Naming stuff. Im not a fan
[16:11] <giannello> genii, maybe there should be an option to disable that _random_ behaviour - because YES, it's random, and IMO this is a regression
[16:11] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, so I have a cron job setup to rsync one of my directories over to my other NAS.  It looks like the NAS isn't mounted (not sure why...:S) and the rsync happened.  This generated 76GB of data on my local drive
[16:11] <giannello> compdoc, _how_ ?
[16:11] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: oh, nice, good thing you found that.
[16:12] <giannello> there's at least 5 different ways to do that, according to the internet - and most of them don't work
[16:12] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, now to figure out why it isn't mounted.  lel
[16:12] <compdoc> giannello:   sudo nano /etc/default/grub     add:   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="biosdevname=0"              then: sudo update-grub          then reboot
[16:13] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, annnddd I see why.
[16:13] <str> Hi everyone!  I installed a clean 14.04, did all the updates and I'm trying to use Empahty. When I get a message, I see the blue icon on the corner, but when I pen the chat dialog, the message is not shown and I can't see what the message was. Does this happen to everyone?
[16:13] <compdoc> Consistent Network Device Naming is an abomination
[16:14] <Peanut> compdoc: My p255p1 and I agree with that.
[16:14] <giannello> compdoc, I'm not that drastic, it could be a nice feature
[16:14] <giannello> but in my case is not Consistent at all
[16:14] <giannello> most of the interfaces are correctly named pXpX (2 PCI cards with 4 ports)
[16:15] <giannello> some of them, randomly, are simply "renameX"
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: was I right, or was I correct?
[16:15] <giannello> and it changes at every reboot
[16:16] <squidly> I'm trying to kill mysql server but it keeps restarting. Is there something I need to stop to stop the mysql server from restarting?
[16:16] <Peanut> squidly: how are you stopping it?
[16:17] <squidly> Peanut: /etc/init.d/mysql stop is not working. I've tried to kill -9 $pid_of_mysql.
[16:17] <genii> squidly: mysql uses upstart
[16:17] <Peanut> squidly: which OS release are you on?
[16:17] <squidly> I also have looked at stopping the mysql_safe process.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> squidly: try:  sudo service mysql stop
[16:18] <str> I joined #empathy but no one is there, why do we use empathy?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> str: i don't
[16:18] <squidly> Peanut: I'm on 12.04.4 LTS
[16:19] <SchrodingersScat> str: I prefer 'finch'
[16:19] <squidly> I was trying out mariadb.. but decided to go back to mysql-server
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> pidgin here
[16:19] <Peanut> squidly: where did you get your mysql from, the packages or built it yourself?
[16:19] <KGM70> str, what would you use empathy for anyway?
[16:20] <squidly> Peanut packages from the mariadb site
[16:20] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: Are there steps for making package list for re-install?
[16:20] <Peanut> squidly: you're confusing me know. Is it mysql that fails to stop, or mariadb? What do you have currently installed?
[16:21] <squidly> mariadb. they set it to be a dropin replacement of mysql-5.5
[16:21] <Peanut> squidly: Ok, so it is mariadb that won't stop?
[16:21] <squidly> yes.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: dpkg -l | grep -v ^rc | awk {'print $2'} > ~/Desktop/packagelist.txt
[16:22] <khax> pricey
[16:24] <Peanut> squidly: where did the /etc/init.d/mysqld come from? Is that from Mariadb or Mysql?
[16:24] <squidly> mariadb
[16:24] <Peanut> squidly: ok, so exactly what happens when you do "/etc/init.d/mysql stop" ?
[16:25] <squidly> it just says failed.
[16:25] <Peanut> squidly: ah ok, so it doesn't stop and then start again, which you mentioned before. Is it even running?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> squidly: tried the 'service' command?
[16:26] <squidly> ActionParsnip: yes I did. Before I even came in here.
[16:26] <squidly> Peanut: yse
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> squidly: cool
[16:26] <squidly> yes*
[16:26] <r2d2___> after fresh install, xscreensaver crashes on my secondary monitor. error related to apport-gtk.
[16:29] <squidly> ok that worked.. I hated to do it but a shutdown of the system.. and a boot in to a recovery console lets me remove mariadb.
[16:30] <r2d2___> it seems as if it would try to show the screensavers of both monitors in one... it looks distorted and after stopping it, the monitor is unusable until reboot
[16:31] <benfes> Ive just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 however it just loads to a blank screen unless i pish the up arrow key during startup Nd it loads to the terminal. How can i get it to load the normal ui?
[16:31] <dumbasssss> Yo
[16:31] <dumbasssss> My Ubuntu is fucking up
[16:31] <dumbasssss> F
[16:31] <dumbasssss> F
[16:31] <dumbasssss> f
[16:31] <dumbasssss> f
[16:31] <dumbasssss> f
[16:31] <dumbasssss> f
[16:31] <unopaste> dumbasssss you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:32] <khax> calmdown plz
[16:32] <designbybeck> what is it doing or not doing dumbasssss
[16:32] <squidly> Peanut: thanks.
[16:33] <benfes> (benfes) Ive just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 however it just loads to a blank screen unless i pish the up arrow key during startup Nd it loads to the terminal. How can i get it to load the normal ui?
[16:34] <geirha> benfes: Why would you upgrade to 12.10 and not 14.04?
[16:34] <giannello> compdoc, that did the trick, thanks
[16:34] <KGM70> guess the nick was appropriate
[16:34] <Codmadnesspro> Who?
[16:34] <Codmadnesspro> What happend.
[16:35] <compdoc> giannello, use 70-persistent-net.rules to set your devices how you like
[16:35] <Codmadnesspro> Hey schaap
[16:36] <sudormrf> crisis averted :D
[16:37] <r2d2___> anybody??? after fresh install, xscreensaver crashes on my secondary monitor. error related to apport-gtk.
[16:37] <giannello> compdoc, the default, old-school naming is _fine_ - I'd never imagined that in 2014 I have to _manually_ name my network interfaces because of some brain-damaged software trying to automagically rename them
[16:38] <compdoc> giannello, my system nicely named them eth0, eth1, eth2, etc, and then renamed them all to something unuseable
[16:39] <squidly> upgradeing to 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS is not yet supported?
[16:44] <Pici> squidly: not until 14.04.1 is released.
[16:44] <nestle21> is it normal for a raid10 resync check or whatever to take so long ?  [[16:44] <nestle21> lol
[16:45] <nestle21> been going on for like 4 days
[16:45] <nestle21> software raid*
[16:48] <squidly> nestle21: size of the disks?
[16:49] <squidly> Also if you use the disk at all during the resync it takes a VERY long time.
[16:49] <squidly> Pici: thanks. I though so
[16:55] <Austneal> vashidu!
[16:55] <Blue_Knight> Austneal: Hi!
[16:56] <Austneal> Hi :/
[16:56] <Blue_Knight> >:(
[16:56] <Austneal> I dont know you xD
[16:56] <Austneal> but HI! :D
[16:57] <Blue_Knight> Austneal: I know nobody. So not surprised.
[16:57] <sl33k_> what does grep -v ^rc mean?
[16:57] <sl33k_> and also awk {'print  $2'}
[16:57] <Blue_Knight> grep --help
[16:58] <Blue_Knight> man grep
[16:58] <Austneal> isn't ^rc regex?
[16:58] <Austneal> or am I dumb?
[16:59] <Blue_Knight> Austneal: read the documentation...
[16:59] <heipa> hey folks how long it takes for a record to propagate itself?
[16:59] <Austneal> I'm not on Linux
[16:59] <heipa> if I set val to min aka 60
[16:59] <Blue_Knight> Austneal: Then why are you here?
[16:59] <Blue_Knight> :P
[16:59] <darky_> How to enable wired connection from recovery mode?
[16:59] <Austneal> I'm on a windows tablet :P
[16:59] <darky_> eth1 ....?
[17:00] <Austneal> Enable networking, darky_
[17:00] <robjloranger> wired should just work
[17:00] <darky_> Austneal: Just that?
[17:00] <Blue_Knight> assuming he's connected...
[17:01] <genii> darky_: mount -o remount,rw /  ...and then ifup ethX where X is the adapter number you want to enable. Then usually from here dhcp most systems with: dhclient ethX
[17:01] <robjloranger> yes
[17:01] <darky_> Austneal: I meant in text mode? I'm not in that screen with this option.. I want the command!
[17:01] <Austneal> ah
[17:01] <Austneal> Listen to genii
[17:01] <darky_> genii: Ok.. Thank you.
[17:01] <Austneal> hes a genii
[17:02] <genii> robjloranger: Wired connection does not just work in recovery boot :)
[17:02] <heipa> :)
[17:02] <robjloranger> really? :) thats not so helpful is it lol
 Also if you use the disk at all during the resync it takes a VERY long time.
[17:02] <nestle21> when i first installed the system it did do a sync and then it was finished
[17:02] <nestle21> but 4 days ago it started back up somehow
[17:02] <nestle21> and they are 4 tb x 6 drives
[17:02] <Austneal> Rylee... Are you the same Rylee I know? >.>
[17:02] <Blue_Knight> !ping
[17:02] <robjloranger> i should shush up
[17:02] <Rylee> depends Austneal
[17:03] <nestle21> but yeah ok cool i guess ill just wait it out
[17:03] <Rylee> is the rylee you know a female Ruby programmer taht's an Atheme member?
[17:03] <nestle21> i take it i should not reboot
[17:03] <Austneal> YES :O
[17:04] <Rylee> cool
[17:04] <Austneal> Rylee, is the name "Akki" familiar?
[17:05] <Rylee> not particularly, i presume it should be though
[17:05] <Austneal> ah
[17:05] <Rylee> drop me a pm wherever i should recognize it from
[17:05] <Rylee> i need tro go
[17:05] <Austneal> maybe not the same ruby programmer named Rylee then :/
[17:06] <Rylee> i meet lots of people and sometimes the name isn't what leaves an impression
[17:07] <Rylee> https://www.rylee.me/ might confirm/deny me being who you think i am
[17:07] <Rylee> adios for now, though
[17:08] <Austneal> ciao!
[17:08] <Blue_Knight> Bye!
[17:10] <Rylee> ag-ing my entire logset reveals no trace of an Akki so i am afraid you have found the wrong person
[17:12] <Beldar> !away > Blue_Knight
[17:14] <sysroot000> hey, is there a command in bash to select the network interface to go through for the specific shell session ?
[17:15] <Blue_Knight> Beldar, I understood nothing...
[17:17] <Blue_Knight> !quit
[17:20] <sysroot000> how can i specify an interface that will be used on a specific bash window for the commands i enter, for example bash window x goes throught eth0 and bash window y goes through wlan0
[17:20] <SchrodingersScat> sysroot000: is that a thing?
[17:21] <sysroot000> SchrodingersScat: what thing ?
[17:21] <regno> I like where this is going :)
[17:22] <SchrodingersScat> sysroot000: I think that's my point.
[17:22] <daftykins> sysroot000: i don't think you can. they're relying on the kernel routing table
[17:22] <daftykins> sysroot000: you could chroot a fake install and reconfigure that though
[17:23] <sysroot000> daftykins: what about 3g modems ? its the same about them ?
[17:23] <daftykins> sysroot000: it doesn't stop being networking.
[17:23] <daftykins> sysroot000: what are you *actually* trying to achieve?
[17:24] <sysroot000> daftykins: 2 python scripts that each of them goes throught distinct adapters
[17:24] <nick0r0> Why won't this run? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7453365/
[17:24] <daftykins> sysroot000: why? :)
[17:24] <nick0r0> Terminal is saying its an invalid op
[17:25] <daftykins> sysroot000: you could install virtualbox and get a VM running that bridges over one interface only, but overkill to get there but it'll work
[17:25] <sysroot000> daftykins: thats what im trying to avoid
[17:25] <daftykins> nick0r0: because you're not meant to have all those backslashes, heh
[17:25] <daftykins> sysroot000: sorry then :) i think you're out of luck
[17:26] <nestle21> sysroot000 you so weird man. good luck.
[17:26] <nick0r0> daftykins: If I remove backslashes and just leave a space will it work?
[17:26] <sysroot000> nestle21: why am i weird ?
[17:26] <nestle21> joking
[17:26] <sysroot000> daftykins: are you 100% sure about that ?
[17:27] <sysroot000> daftykins: isnt that what vpn tunnels does ?
[17:27] <daftykins> nick0r0: probably. if those are all package names they should be space delimited yeah. if you copied them from somewhere, \ is just a way of saying it's an ongoing single command but it has to be wrapped to new lines
[17:27] <daftykins> sysroot000: well you'd need another endpoint to achieve that, so your setup starts getting ridiculous to achieve this one crazy idea :)
[17:28] <sysroot000> daftykins: like, when i connect a VPN, i can connect websites inside the vpn subnet .. and surf the internet
[17:29] <daftykins> sysroot000: yes i understand how VPNs work, they probably contain some configuration to tell what interface to go out over - but that tends to be system wide again, not per-application
[17:31] <nestle21> maybe u can bind a socks server to both eth0 and the other interface and then use tsocks to run your (applications?) through it ? im probably not helping
[17:32] <ben_g_> Hi
[17:33] <SchrodingersScat> sysroot000: individual programs can select interfaces when it's an option, not sure if python has something similar or not, like curl --interface eth0 should pick eth0
[17:33] <daftykins> hello
[17:33] <ben_g_> I have a problem related to display drivers
[17:33] <sudormrf> Do you guys recommend WebMin or is there something better to use? :)
[17:33] <mistawright> nano
[17:34] <Beldar> sudormrf, You seem to not understand this channels role.
[17:34] <ben_g_> I've recently tried to install nvidia drivers, (from the nvidia site, then by bumblebee because the nvidia ones didn't work) and now I don't have any 3D acceleration anymore
[17:35] <ben_g_> And the desktop also uses a simplified mode witout annimations (which I think is the failsafe mode)
[17:35] <daftykins> ben_g_: sounds like an nvidia optimus laptop
[17:35] <daftykins> !webmin | sudormrf
[17:36] <daftykins> sudormrf: let it never be spoken of again
[17:36] <ben_g_> daftykins: It's possible.
[17:36] <sudormrf> daftykins, haha ok.  So what should I use instead? :)
[17:36] <daftykins> ben_g_: possible that it is? intel i-series processor with on-die graphics coupled with an nvidia mobile chip?
[17:36] <sudormrf> Beldar, I fully understand the role of this channel.  I am asking because I am running ubuntu server.
[17:37] <daftykins> sudormrf: you should learn to do things the proper way first, if you start using software that holds your hand you will only make life difficult for yourself when things go wrong and you don't know how to manage it
[17:37] <sudormrf> Beldar, looking for suggestions from the community :)
[17:37] <sudormrf> daftykins, I do them from the CLI typically
[17:37] <daftykins> sudormrf: i think his point is that #ubuntu-server exists
[17:37] <ben_g_> I have an on-board intel HD graphics 4000 GPU and a dedicated nvidia geforce 710M graphics card
[17:37] <sudormrf> daftykins, ah.  didn't know that :).  will jump into the server channel :D
[17:37] <daftykins> ben_g_: yep, ok which ubuntu are you running?
[17:37] <ben_g_> 12.04 LTS
[17:37] <Beldar> sudormrf, I would argue you don't; this is not a what's best or suggestions from the community.
[17:38] <daftykins> ben_g_: if you want good optimus support, i highly recommend running 14.04
[17:38] <sudormrf> Beldar, I am not going to argue the point with you.
[17:38] <ben_g_> =i'd already be happy if I can just use my dedicated card
[17:38] <Beldar> !best | sudormrf argue with the bot
[17:38] <Beldar> !best | sudormrf
[17:39] <ben_g_> but, is 14.04 a long time stable?
[17:39] <daftykins> ben_g_: optimus doesn't work like that, in 99% of cases. you can check your system's BIOS for GPU options, *if* they exist, that let you pick which GPU to use primarily
[17:39] <daftykins> ben_g_: 14.04 is Long Term Support yes
[17:39] <daftykins> !lts
[17:40] <daftykins> ben_g_: if you want to get back to a working configuration as-is, "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* "
[17:40] <ben_g_> And very recent then? When I installed ubuntu (a month or two ago) 12.04 was the most recent I found
[17:40] <ben_g_> Ok, I'll try that
[17:41] <nick0r0> daftykins: I space delimited then tried a comma and it's still not working http://paste.ubuntu.com/7453452/
[17:41] <daftykins> nick0r0: the command is "sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>"
[17:42] <ben_g_> But since my bios doesn't have a GPU setting, I'll be stuck with my on-board card unless I update to 14.04?
[17:42] <daftykins> nick0r0: also you now have new lines in your command instead of spaces which is why they're going on new lines ¬_¬
[17:42] <daftykins> ben_g_: what i said is 14.04 is the best choice to begin setting up an optimus system, so if you clean install 14.04 and come back then we can carry on :)
[17:43] <ben_g_> I'll try that after my exam period then
[17:43] <daftykins> ben_g_: lol, doesn't sound like a good time to be messing with your computer
[17:44] <ben_g_> I still have 3 weeks before they start
[17:44] <ben_g_> I just don't want to mess up realy badly now
[17:44] <ben_g_> anyway, brb. I'm going to reboot to see if it's fixed
[17:45] <bertieb> Hey all, any idea why minidlna would not want to read an nfs-mounted directory (minidlna account is in group of user who has it mounted) ?
[17:46] <daftykins> maybe its' logs tell you?
[17:46] <bertieb> daftykins: Was just typing that bit up ;)
[17:46] <genii> sysroot000: This looks interesting: http://daniel-lange.com/archives/53-Binding-applications-to-a-specific-IP.html
[17:47] <bertieb> The logs don't say anything helpful - minidlna just plain refuses to scan if the 'root' folder is the nfs mount. If the mount is mounted as the only thing in a directory which is set to root, it will 'scan' and say 0 files found.
[17:48] <michaelaguiar> when setting ranges for a dhcp server, can it be any amount of ips?
[17:48] <ben_g> It didn't work :(
[17:48] <bertieb> (Even with the log level set to most verbose [debug] I don't get much useful info)
[17:48] <nick0r0> daftykins: I tried that but nothing happened http://paste.ubuntu.com/7453487/
[17:48] <ben_g> The desktop still is on that simplified mode, and I still don't have 3D acceleration
[17:48] <nick0r0> Can you please paste an example
[17:49] <genii> michaelaguiar: On most class C type capable servers/routers anything from 2 to 254
[17:49] <daftykins> nick0r0: lol, you have a $ at the start, remove that
[17:49] <michaelaguiar> genii: ah ok.  What if I need more then that?
[17:49] <daftykins> ben_g_: removing the nvidia packages? well i could've done with more feedback after running that command ran
[17:49] <daftykins> -ran
[17:50] <daftykins> ben_g: two choices: continue messing around with making your existing install work on the intel only, or you go clean install 14.04
[17:50] <ben_g> Are all my files safe if I install 14.04?
[17:50] <bekks> ben_g: Ddid you back them up?
[17:51] <ben_g> Most of them
[17:51] <ben_g> But I especially don't want to hurt my windows partition, since I don't have the windows CD
[17:52] <nick0r0> daftykins: The $ wasn't me it's just the token that comes after my computer name
[17:52] <daftykins> ben_g: depends what your partition layout is
[17:52] <genii> michaelaguiar: If the netmask on the server allows more than 255 addresses, then it should automatically assign more than 255 numbers if a starting IP is given it just increments it until second-lat number
[17:52] <genii> *second-last
[17:52] <daftykins> nick0r0: no look at your paste, there are two
[17:52] <daftykins> nick0r0: username@pc:~$ $sudo
[17:52] <michaelaguiar> got it, thanks!
[17:52] <ben_g> the default windows format on the windows partition, and ext4 on ubuntu's partitions
[17:53] <daftykins> ben_g: right but do you have a separate /home or is it all in one / ?
[17:53] <JoeyJoeJo> I've got a cron job that has output and tries to mail it to a user on my system. How do I check that mail?
[17:53] <nick0r0> daftykins: Weird -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/7453520/
[17:53] <ben_g>  /home and / refer to two seperate hard drive partitions
[17:54] <daftykins> nick0r0: is a package manager running? or the update manager? you can't have two things managing packages at once.
[17:54] <ben_g> but they are on the same physical hard drive
[17:54] <daftykins> ben_g: cool, so you could format / and clean install 14.04 then just tell the installer you want to mount the /home as your /home
[17:54] <nick0r0> daftykins: Yeah I totally have update manager running in background
[17:54] <ben_g> ok
[17:54] <stemid> I forget where I am, how do I check which radeon driver I'm using? I have fglrx fglrx-amdcccle and xserver-xorg-video-radeon installed. here is my fglrxinfo http://sprunge.us/JjGG
[17:54] <daftykins> nick0r0: :P close it
[17:55] <mistawright> fglrxinfo
[17:55] <ben_g> I'll try to find a flash drive then
[17:55] <stemid> mistawright: open source is supposed to say callium?
[17:55] <stemid> or something
[17:55] <daftykins> stemid: apt-cache showpkg fglrx
[17:55] <stemid> gallium3d
[17:56] <mistawright> sounds like you are unsure of the driver you are using currently
[17:56] <stemid> yes
[17:56] <stemid> http://sprunge.us/JjGG
[17:56] <bsdbandit> good  afternoon  i have applied a patch to my apache server from the ubuntu repo is their a way to roll back patches in ubuntu using apt-get
[17:57] <daftykins> bsdbandit: as in the apache2 package had an update?
[17:57] <nick0r0> daftykins: They are there! I know their there! -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/7453544/
[17:57] <daftykins> nick0r0: i told you to use spaces not commas
[17:58] <daftykins> nick0r0: do you have any idea how painful this is? :)
[17:58] <daftykins> nick0r0: also you have 'friends twitter' which probably should be friends-twitter if that's even a package
[17:58] <nick0r0> daftykins:  OK : /
[17:59] <daftykins> nick0r0: i don't know if you're new at this, but you really need to READ what you're typing in, don't just try and rush these kinds of tasks - else as you've seen command line will say 'DENIED'
[17:59] <ben_g> I can't find a flash drive anyware, so I can't really install 14.04 now
[18:00] <pkp> Hey!
[18:01] <pkp> How do i find out which driver to install for my wireless connection to work?
[18:01] <ben_g> But I'm pretty sure my default drivers should still be okay, since I didn't remove them. Is there any way to re-enable them?
[18:02] <daftykins> pkp: first identify what hardware it is - if it's internal, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "lspci | pastebinit" and paste us the link. if it's USB, do "lsusb | pastebinit"
[18:03] <daftykins> pkp: or are you already being offered some in the additional / hardware drivers tab of software ? :)
[18:04] <daftykins> pkp: you'll have to be online for these commands, so hopefully you have a wired network interface that'll work temporarily
[18:04] <pkp> daftykins, that's the problem. Both wired and wireless are not working.
[18:04] <daftykins> ah-har
[18:05] <daftykins> pkp: can you take a picture instead and upload it online? :)
[18:05] <mr-tech-guy> hello all
[18:06] <pkp> daftykins, I think I figured out the company of the chipsets. For wireless, its realtek and for wired its intel
[18:06] <pkp> But am not getting the exact model and other details
[18:06] <daftykins> pkp: from lspci ?
[18:07] <pkp> daftykins, yes. and from lshw
[18:07] <daftykins> pkp: they should be a fair bit more specific than that, which ubuntu version did you install also?
[18:07] <mr-tech-guy> I am trying to setup DHCP for my Ubuntu server I have one question how do I fine what my subnet config. I herd of the subnet mask.
[18:07] <new0> hi everyone, i would like to know what is wrong in my code and i guess i don't know how the parent::__contruct() work. http://pastebin.com/09ppWqd9
[18:08] <new0> hope something help me. tnx
[18:08] <pkp> daftykins, er.. am using elementary. But its based on ubuntu and use 3.2.0 kernel, I think
[18:08] <daftykins> ah, sorry - we don't support that here
[18:08] <daftykins> !elementary
[18:08] <JMon> hey guise, can anyone suggest a channel for stupid newb Ubuntu questions
[18:09] <daftykins> JMon: that's here! ask away with as much detail on one line please
[18:09] <pkp> daftykins, okay. thanks anyway
[18:09] <DJones> JMon: No such thing as a stupid question, just ask here & see ifanybody can help
[18:09] <daftykins> pkp: a newer version with a newer kernel would likely help a lot
[18:09] <pkp> daftykins, Yeah probably. I was just trying with the one I had. Will install the newer one.
[18:10] <daftykins> :)
[18:10] <pkp> *download
[18:10] <kdz> busy as ever here
[18:11] <mr-tech-guy> I am trying to setup DHCP for my Ubuntu server I have one question how do I fine what my subnet config. I herd of the subnet mask.
[18:11] <d4rkt1m3s> I'm trying to port my app from another linux distro to Ubuntu, does anyone have any resources on building packages by hand?
[18:12] <Mikerhinos> tomorrow I should receive my 2 SSDs 40Go, was thinking of making a bios RAID-0 to get max performance to install my "/" partition, and use my actual 500Go as /home and swap, is it a good decision ? Some people told me to use a soft RAID solution, some LVM...I'm becoming a bit lost lol
[18:12] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy: for a standard home network with 254 hosts max, stick with 192.168.0.x as the IP scheme and 255.255.255.0 as the subnet mask
[18:13] <daftykins> Mikerhinos: i'd say no, but even if you setup that RAID in BIOS Linux will likely see the two disks separately
[18:13] <mr-tech-guy> but Iam on a 10.0.0.0 network comcast
[18:13] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy: is that your internal IP or your internet facing IP?
[18:14] <mr-tech-guy> internel facing IP
[18:14] <daftykins> lol facing
[18:14] <vaskozl> I have a 7 year old computer with old intel audio, which doesn't apper in the settings
[18:14] <vaskozl> is there any package I can install that provides me with the drivers?
[18:14] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy: so copy the IP schema and subnet from your existing settings, read them from ifconfig -a
[18:14] <Mikerhinos> daftykins: it's an Intel Matrix sata controller (MB=Asus Sabertooth 55i), if I setup my RAID in bios why would Linux see the 2 drives ? :s
[18:15] <daftykins> Mikerhinos: because it doesn't tend to follow the fakeraid setup. once you get it assembled boot a LiveUSB/DVD and you'll see :) look into mdadm if you really want RAID but i'd advise against it with SSDs
[18:15] <JMon> I  am copying folders from my linux box to a NAS (buffalo HD-CELU2)  the copy on NAS has the same number of items in the folder, yet shows different amount of space used... original folder size is 3.0 gig, copy says 1.8gig. even weirder still,when I checked from an alternate box (newer dist of ubuntu) It shows copy as 3.3 gig. I want to wipe the drive on computer but am hesitant to do so without being sure the copy is exact
[18:16] <daftykins> JMon: is it just files in your /home ?
[18:16] <mr-tech-guy> I have know problem with my configration the problem is every video I am looking at the subnet and subnet mask is diffent
[18:17] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy: but you asked what to put as the subnet mask...
[18:17] <mr-tech-guy> I just trying to fined out where are they getting it form
[18:17] <mr-tech-guy> no
[18:17] <mr-tech-guy> check this out
[18:17] <Mikerhinos> daftykins: performance in RAID-0 is really interresting, I don't search reliability as my important data will be on a SATA HDD on a separate /home. Anyway problem with RAID seems to be the no TRIM capability :s don't know if I use LVM to "merge" the drives
[18:17] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy: well, it differs depending on the network and how many hosts you want to be able to support
[18:18] <daftykins> Mikerhinos: yeah no TRIM would mean their performance would drop very quickly and not return
[18:18] <daftykins> Mikerhinos: i know nothing about LVM to know if it'd be useful though
[18:18] <Mikerhinos> daftykins: but I know that LVM is like 20% behind soft RAID-0 in performances
[18:18] <Jorky> Hello
[18:19] <JMon> daftykins: no its a folder within  /home
[18:19] <daftykins> JMon: yeah that's what i meant, was any program likely using any files in there at the time?
[18:19] <mr-tech-guy> i hear you subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
[18:20] <mr-tech-guy> what is the subnet and where did they get that from
[18:21] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy: i'm afraid this isn't the place for a networking 101, i'd advise you look it up online.
[18:22] <mr-tech-guy> Thanks
[18:23] <Mikerhinos> daftykins: oh, looks like TRIM is supported in a RAID configuration with ubuntu 14.04, problem is, I'm on Mint Petra, so equivalent to 13.10 I believe :s I like Mate desktop it's very light and efficient...Gnome Shell is ok, but Unity... :(
[18:23] <daftykins> yeah we don't support mint here.
[18:24] <daftykins> !mint
[18:25] <JMon> daftykins: no
[18:25] <Mikerhinos> yeah I know, but it's very similar to 13.10 I believe. Is Ubuntu Gnome supported here ? I had it a few days and it was quite cool, switched to Mint only because my sons have old hardware and I wanted to have same OS for easy help when they are in trouble
[18:25] <infowolfe> where would I go to inform a packager that they're doing it wrong?
[18:26] <daftykins> Mikerhinos: similar but not supported here :)
[18:26] <bekks> infowolfe: you could just file a bug on launchpad
[18:27] <mmazing> Mikerhinos: try #linux too, it seems like a pretty general question you have, not really mint-specific
[18:27] <Mikerhinos> mmazing: trying right now thx :)
[18:28] <ceed^> I am not able to turn Bluetooth back on in 14.04. It immediately turns off again. It was on after install and worked. Then I disabled it once and now it won't turn on again. Ideas?
[18:29] <rafael2k> people, sdl2 package seems badly broken. the same app, compiling with debian jessie sdl2 works fine, compiled with ubuntu sdl2 I get a segfault
[18:29] <meccooll> fgl_glxgears show 1800FPS when it's on monitor off of GPU1 but about 310FPS when i drag it to monitor off of GPU2
[18:29] <daftykins> ceed^: did you use rfkill?
[18:29] <mmazing> ceed^: do you have the bluetooth settings window open or clicking on the indicator icon? i had some trouble earlier where it wouldn't turn back on via the settings window, but i just tried the indicator now and it worked fine
[18:32] <ceed^> daftykins, I didn't use anything other than the bluetooth on off
[18:32] <ceed^> daftykins, I had added my bluetooth speakers and the work fine, the only problem is that I am not able to turn bluetooth on
[18:33] <daftykins> ceed^: did you see mmazing's reply?
[18:33] <JMon> daftykins: no,i t is highly unlikely that any other programs are using the files. I just checked again and the NAS still shows copy of folder to be 1.8 gig from one box, 3.3gig when viewed from another box, yet the original folder is 3.0gig
[18:34] <daftykins> JMon: is that NAS new?
[18:34] <ceed^> daftykins, I saw it yes. I do have the bluetooth settings open and try to turn it on, but it just goes back to off again
[18:34] <nick0r0> daftykins:
[18:34] <JMon> its about 6 years old
[18:34] <nick0r0> daftykins: I think it worked
[18:34] <daftykins> nick0r0: after that long i really hope so ;)
[18:34] <nick0r0> daftykins: Can you show me a way to confirm this
[18:34] <JMon> daftykins: its about 6 years old
[18:35] <nick0r0> :) lol
[18:35] <daftykins> nick0r0: dpkg -l | grep <packagename> would show if a given package is installed or not
[18:37] <nick0r0> daftykins: Ok may be it really didnt work :( Some of the packages show as still there
[18:37] <ceed^> daftykins, rfkill says my device is "soft blocked = yes".
[18:38] <daftykins> ceed^: sounds like you want to remove that!
[18:38] <daftykins> nick0r0: are you seeing two letters beside the package name?
[18:38] <nick0r0> daftykins: yes ii
[18:39] <ceed^> daftykins, did "rfkill unblock 0" and I can turn it on again! How did it get "soft blocked" in the first place?
[18:39] <daftykins> ceed^: no idea, sorry. just seen people use that command
[18:49] <sullivan> https://gks.gs/blog/?id=142 => Dites moi que c'est une blague ! Hein ?! Dites moi que c'est une blague !
[18:50] <sullivan> sry wrong channel.
[18:50] <ben_g> I'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 LTS right now by updating from 12.04LTS, but the installer complains about an EFI boot partition missing.
[18:50] <hpa620n> its irc; doesnt anything go?
[18:50] <yutong> which package contains the GL headers/
[18:50] <yutong> ?
[18:51] <ben_g> What should I do? Can I safely ignore it and continue the installation?
[18:51] <JMon> daftykins: would that make a diff?
[18:52] <daftykins> JMon: not sure
[18:53] <JMon> daftykins: ok well thanks for your input, much appreciated
[18:53] <daftykins> np
[18:54] <ben_g> Do I have to create that boot partition in the installer or should I ignore the error?
[18:54] <nick0r0> daftykins: What do the two letters mean?
[18:55] <ben_g> (I have 1GB of unallocated space on my hard drive, so it is possible to create an other partition)
[18:55] <daftykins> nick0r0: have a read up by typing 'man dpkg' in the terminal
[18:57] <ben_g> I'll ask it in an other way: can it do harm if I create the boot partition from unallocated hard drive space if the installer asks for it?
[18:58] <daftykins> ben_g: do you know if your windows and ubuntu install are currently installed as EFI or legacy?
[18:59] <ben_g> UEFI
[18:59] <ben_g> I heard that legacy was rather bad and/or unsafe
[19:00] <bekks> ben_g: And both isnt true.
[19:00] <ben_g> Well, UEFI was the standard on my system, and I'm sure that windows works on it
[19:03] <ben_g> Anyway, do I need that partition, or would it be a bad thing to add that partition?
[19:03] <mrkent2> Is there a simple diagnostic tool for ethernet problems? I am running lubuntu 12.04 on xps 8700 desktop connected to linksys 900E. It detects the connection, but cannot connect to network. The same connection works on a laptop running archlinux
[19:05] <raub> mrkent2: It depends on what you mean by simple
[19:07] <raub> mrkent2: Did you try ip?
[19:09] <mrkent2> raub, nope.
[19:10] <mrkent2> Perhaps I can just turn off network-applet and just connect via a script, and look at output of command line
[19:11] <daftykins> ben_g: if they're installed as UEFI, you should already have an EFI FAT partition at the start of the drive
[19:11] <raub> mrkent2: wireless or ethernet?
[19:12] <ben_g> so I can safely ignore the error?
[19:12] <daftykins> ben_g: possibly, try it and see!
[19:12] <ben_g> Ok, thanks
[19:14] <ben_g> "the attempt to connect a vfat-filesystem at efi/boot has failed" Does that mean that I do need that boot partition?
[19:21] <kdz> how can i block dc++ on my network without block the ports
[19:24] <designbybeck> does ccsm worth with Ubuntu 14.04?... things like wobbly windows and such?
[19:30] <designbybeck> that was suppose to say ccsm compiz work with Ubuntu 14.04
[19:31] <xangua> unity uses compiz, yes
[19:32] <designbybeck> xangua, but with the ccsm does wobbly windows and things like that work with 14.04?
[19:32] <escyll> yeah
[19:33] <escyll> it works
[19:33] <designbybeck> ok thanks escyll  and xangua
[19:33] <junka> how can i make xchat to use notify-osd when they highlight me?
[19:33] <xangua> junka: install xchat indicator
[19:34] <xangua> !info xchat-indicator
[19:34] <escyll> designbybeck: of course you'll first have to install ccsm
[19:34] <designbybeck> gotcha
[19:35] <junka> xangua, it is installed. I get xchat in indicator-messages
[19:35] <junka> what about a notification bubble
[19:40] <ParaDebian> hello
[19:40] <arooni-mobile> hey folks; thinkpad 420 with a Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250  card.. upgraded recently to ubuntu 14.04 .... wifi is broken; i can't connect to new networks.  wifi was working fine before the ugprade.  what do i do now?
[19:40] <ParaDebian> How can i install Ubuntu with the shared /home on Debian?
[19:40] <Canadian22> Hey guys, I am using php-5.3.10-1ubuntu3.11 from the Ubuntu 12.04 repositories. I have been given a list of php vulnerabilities in php 5.3.10 by my security team. How can I found out if those vulnerabilities were or were not addressed in Ubuntu's 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.11? Thanks in advance
[19:40] <daftykins> ParaDebian: that's a really bad idea
[19:41] <ParaDebian> why
[19:41] <daftykins> because they're different
[19:41] <brontosaurusrex_> ParaDebian, dot files will mix
[19:41] <ParaDebian> amazing, any idea how to avoid this?
[19:41] <brontosaurusrex_> ParaDebian, better make one /fatfiles that both can see and separated homes
[19:42] <ParaDebian> i have a separeted home
[19:42] <junka> !info xchat-gnome-notify-osd
[19:42] <ParaDebian> !info python3
[19:42] <ParaDebian> !info python3.4
[19:42] <Guest62302> Hey all!
[19:43] <ParaDebian> !search python3.4
[19:43] <designbybeck> escyll, when I look in the software center I don't see ccsm? Use to have the "Show Technical Items" but I don't see that either
[19:44] <escyll> designbybeck: euhm, you're right, gimme a second
[19:44] <mrkent> raub, ethernet.. had network problems on other comp so apparently message didnt reach u
[19:44] <escyll> apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:44] <escyll> @ designbybeck
[19:44] <designbybeck> ok
[19:45] <Guest62302> I just installed Ubuntu Studio 14.04, with all of the extras (graphics, audio, publishing, the works) and did the usual post-install updates, and now it is taking about 3 minutes to boot! anyone else having this problem? The xfce mouse flashes for minutes... then it springs to life.
[19:46] <escyll> designbybeck: after installing that package you can use it via the ccsm command
[19:47] <escyll> euhm, you may need to download one extra package for wobbly windows
[19:47] <designbybeck> escyll, I got into ccsm but looks like they did take out wobbly windows and such
[19:47] <escyll> apt-get install compiz-plugins
[19:47] <designbybeck> ah the plugins as well
[19:47] <designbybeck> ;)
[19:48] <escyll> ye, install these plugins and you can use wobbly windows again
[19:48] <escyll> :)
[19:49] <Guest62302> anyone know how to troubleshoot slow boot times?
[19:50] <escyll> Guest62302: I was reading about that today and read something about preload, not sure if it helps with slow booting or not, but might be worth to dig into it
[19:50] <genii> !bootchart | Guest62302
[19:51] <escyll> Guest62302: what you also could concider is let several programs in your startup list start after several seconds
[19:51] <escyll> for example instead of starting skype you could start skype after 20 seconds via sleep 20; skype
[19:51] <Lonnie> I've never really seen much of a gain using preload in boot times I actually think it makes boot times slower because it loads commonly used programs into memory so they start faster after the machine has started
[19:51] <robjloranger> anyone know a simple way to share a desktop across the web?
[19:51] <Lonnie> I've never used it much though
[19:51] <escyll> hmm, you could be right on that Lonnie
[19:51] <robjloranger> ubuntu-ubuntu
[19:52] <escyll> well not really simple, but... teamviewer
[19:52] <escyll> not sure if it runs on linux :O
[19:52] <Lonnie> I thought about trying to hack something together with ffmpeg for that
[19:52] <escyll> designbybeck: is it working?
[19:52] <robjloranger> hmm
[19:53] <michel11> hello, I installed xchat-gnome and then uninstalled it through the ubuntu software center. however the xchat-gnome entry still remains in the notification menu (the menu that opens when you click the mail icon on the toolbar), any way to remove it
[19:53] <Canadian22> @robjloranger: I don't know about simple but https://www.nomachine.com is very good.
[19:53] <Armadillos> robjloranger: No Machine
[19:53] <robjloranger> thanks i'll check it out
[19:54] <Guest62302> escyll: thank you - that is the best lead I've had as of yet. I can see the LED go solid for about 30 seconds right before it actually boots, so I'll see of I can tell by the chart what it is loading during that time.
[19:54] <Armadillos> robjloranger: That's what I'm using to be on IRC from my linux workstation at home
[19:54] <Canadian22> @robjloranger: TeamViewer is also very good and easy to install. They have a Linux client.
[19:55] <robjloranger> ok cool, it makes helping people much easier than typing
[19:55] <Lonnie> I use teamviewer often as that is what my windows using friends use.
[19:55] <robjloranger> especially when it gets confusing
[19:56] <pavlos> I second TeamViewer on linux; works well.
[19:56] <robjloranger> thanks :)
[19:57] <escyll> does one of you have experience with converting windows 8 from uefi boot to csm/legacy boot? Or do you guys discourage it :P
[19:58] <escyll> my boot menu now is changing from uefi to legacy or the other way around in the bios menu
[19:59] <dididodo> hi ... can you recommend a package suited for capturing embedded flash (rtmp?) video streams?
[19:59] <pavel_> hi
[19:59] <designbybeck> yes escyll it did work
[19:59] <escyll> :)
[19:59] <escyll> nice
[19:59] <designbybeck> Thank you.... it did have some hiccups, but it did work
[20:00] <designbybeck> I was testing it out for a newbie who was asking. He saw lots of videos with it and liked it
[20:00] <designbybeck> I think that is what got him to want to try Linux in the first place
[20:00] <escyll> lol
[20:00] <arooni-mobile> hey folks; thinkpad 420 with a Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250  card.. upgraded recently to ubuntu 14.04 .... wifi is broken; i can't connect to new networks.  wifi was working fine before the ugprade.  what do i do now?
[20:00] <shan> What should i do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7454124/
[20:00] <escyll> let him press ctrl + alt + F1 for the first time
[20:00] <escyll> ^^
[20:00] <escyll> he will cry
[20:01] <junka> !info firefox
[20:01] <escyll> dididodo: not really suited for it, but I remember using vlc for it :P
[20:02] <cruisibesares> hey all i have a lvm that is essentially setup as a raid 0 with three disks. when i cat /sys/block/xvdf1/queue/nr_requests its set to 1024. but when i cat the lvm device /sys/block/dm-0/queue/nr_requests it says 128 if i try to echo 1028 into sys/block/dm-0/queue/nr_requests it errors out with -su: echo: write error: Invalid argument what am i missing here?
[20:07] <pdo_fn14> What's plugdev?.
[20:07] <SchrodingersScat> !info plugdev | pdo_fn14
[20:09] <pdo_fn14> SchrodingersScat: package?. So i can't do "adduser MYUSERNAME plugdev"?.
[20:10] <SchrodingersScat> pdo_fn14: oh, is that a group?
[20:10] <llutz> pdo_fn14: sure you can
[20:12] <pdo_fn14> ShrodingersScat: I'm ask what plugdev group purpose?
[20:12] <pdo_fn14> llutz: Thanks.
[20:12] <Armag3dd0n1> flareget is only limited to 10 downloads per day, OMG! next best download manager for ubuntu???
[20:13] <LinksEz> Hi, I installed ubuntu on a chromebook. The battery power indicator does not update and drains while the book is closed.
[20:13] <robjloranger> whats a download manager? lol
[20:14] <LinksEz> Does anyone know if this is fixable?
[20:15] <genii> Armag3dd0n1: fatrat
[20:16] <new0> when working with subClass can i change the visibility of public $a of the parent to protected $a in the child? or protected to private?
[20:16] <new0> and also when can i found about it in php.net?
[20:16] <Pici> new0: this is #ubuntu, were you looking for ##php ?
[20:16] <geirha> robjloranger: Not sure, but people coming from a Windows background seem to think it's something important.
[20:17] <new0> Pici, sorry wrong channel :)
[20:17] <robjloranger> geirha: ya no idea.. does it make my internet faster?
[20:17] <robjloranger> geirha: should i install hdd sweeper too?
[20:18] <nfshr> Hi all! I want to install a vpn between two machines connested over the internet. Now i unfortunately can configure only 1 machine in regards of port forwarding. Is it still possible to install a full vpn?
[20:18] <SchrodingersScat> robjloranger: if the server throttles or is otherwise slow, sometimes multiple connections can help, otherwise I don't think they can do much that wget can't do.
[20:18] <robjloranger> oh tricky, is that what they do? like torrents
[20:20] <SchrodingersScat> robjloranger: right, I think there's an add-on for firefox that acts similar, downthemall or something, can have it use multiple connections, so one gets the file from 0%-10% then the next is working on 10%-20%, etc.  I think there's some projects that do this for curl and wget, but using the actual tools normally suffices for me..
[20:21] <Beldar>  Armag3dd0n1 Why are you using a 3rd party download manager?
[20:22] <pdo_fn14> SchrodingersScat: Does it work http://www.tincantools.com/wiki/Accessing_Devices_without_Sudo ?
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> pdo_fn14: never worked with that, did you try that line adding the user to the group? useradd -G plugdev USERNAME ?
[20:25] <skinux> Is './configure' generally deprecated?
[20:26] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: ??
[20:26] <pdo_fn14> SchrodingersScat: I'm can't do now cause my laptop were dual booted, and still using Fedora session.
[20:26] <skinux> I'm trying to build 'LMMS', a music synthesis software.
[20:26] <skinux> './configure' said it's deprecated and to use cmake instead
[20:27] <genii> !info lmms
[20:27] <genii> skinux: Why build it when it's already packaged?
[20:27] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: ok, so did you try cmake? lmms is in repos, not sure why you'd build.
[20:27] <skinux> I found it by searching online, I didn't know it was in repo
[20:28] <trism> skinux: I'm sure they mean it is deprecated for lmms because they'd rather use cmake in the future, not autotools in general
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[20:28] <rww> guess not
[20:28] <heipa> ty
[20:28] <heipa> so nice
[20:29] <xRanieri> That was definitely Bill Gates
[20:29] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: normally only need to build when you're missing a feature from what's in the repos, first you can check 'apt-cache search lmms' to see what your distro has access to, which will search your repos for anything with lmms strings.
[20:30] <skinux> Why is CMake preferred over autotools?
[20:30] <heipa> sorry why u banned Bill_
[20:31] <skinux> Sorry, I'm actually a programmer, but I let IDEs do the heavy-lifting for compiling
[20:31] <pdo_fn14> SchrodingersScat: But when I saw in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Privileges, I guess mount with standard user need admin group?.
[20:31] <heipa> he was just making some speach about windows
[20:31] <heipa> :)
[20:31] <heipa> speech
[20:31] <Beldar> xRanieri, Ah yes, a man who would actually loose money by stopping to pick up a lost 100$ bill is going to come here.
[20:31] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: like trism mentioned, I don't think it's a software-wide change, but lmms project must think it's better for them.
[20:31] <xRanieri> Beldar, lmao.
[20:32] <Elephantman> hi :) what software would you recommend to take distant control over a desktop ? (to support users in configuring their computer right)
[20:32] <xRanieri> he hates linux enough to go to ever irc channel that promotes it and spamming it.
[20:32] <kbrosnan> vnc?
[20:32] <skinux> Well, one reason I might still build is that my boot partition only has 1G free space. At the moment, I wish there were a way to install from repo, but to a different partition.
[20:34] <skinux> Even more interesting, I just looked in panel menu and found LMMS is already installed. I wonder if CMake did installation as well as configuration.
[20:34] <SchrodingersScat> Elephantman: openssh
[20:34]  * skinux just realizes...'make' is in CMake...so 'make' and 'make install' probably happened already
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: it is possible?
[20:36] <Elephantman> SchrodingersScat: no I'm looking for a graphical remote desktop thing here
[20:36] <skinux> It must have, because I'm trying the program as we speak.
[20:37] <AlexPortable> How long is 14.04 LTS supported?
[20:37] <AlexPortable> wikipedia says until 2019, which is 5 years
[20:37] <AlexPortable> but the text below it says 'for desktop 3 years and for server 5 years'
[20:37] <k1l_> AlexPortable: it is 5 years
[20:37] <AlexPortable> desktop 5 years?
[20:37] <skinux> As I mentioned, '/' partition is nearly full. Is there any way to set it so future software will be installed to appropriate directories on another partition?
[20:37] <k1l_> AlexPortable: that is the old support rule. since 12.04 it is 5 years for desktop too
[20:37] <compdoc> Elephantman, I like xrdp or vnc4server, but I dont think they work with the new Unity
[20:37] <AlexPortable> ah
[20:38] <Elephantman> compdoc: using kde actually, so may be ok
[20:39] <compdoc> as long as theres a 2d desktop option
[20:39] <compdoc> I use Mate
[20:39] <fris> anyone have a ppa handy for ubuntu 14.04 for varnish 4.0, can only seem to find 3.0.5
[20:41] <Beldar> !ppa > fris
[20:41] <fris> thanks
[20:42] <nfshr> Hi all! I want to install a vpn between two machines connested over the internet. Now i unfortunately can configure only 1 machine in regards of port forwarding. Is it still possible to install a full vpn?
[20:43] <bekks> nfshr: both machines are behind a router? or are both machines directly reachable?
[20:43] <user_> Hey, anyone have had experience with snort ?
[20:43] <nfshr> bekks, both are behind a router
[20:43] <compdoc> nfshr, think so. as long as you can connect out from the place that doesnt allow forwarding
[20:44] <nfshr> i know that vnc works.. but vnp idk
[20:45] <k1l_> user_: network hacking is not in the focus of this support channel
[20:46] <genii> !info varnich utopic
[20:46] <genii> !info varnish utopic
[20:46] <genii> Hm.
[20:47] <bekks> That bot is joking, isnt it? :)
[20:47] <bekks> Does the package exist or not? :)
[20:47] <Veil_> Hi, I've installed Ubuntu on a Compaq Laptop, which has built-in wifi, how would I go about configuring that?
[20:47] <genii> bekks: typo on my part the first time :)
[20:47] <Orioa_> go to network connections
[20:47] <bekks> genii: ah ok :)
[20:47] <Veil_> ok
[20:48] <Veil_> list of wifi bssid's not shown :/
[20:49] <shan> cannot install ubuntu.
[20:49] <genii> AlexPortable: All LTS releases are now 5 years whether they are desktop OR server.
[20:49] <bekks> Whats the channel to ask some questions about how automated package building for utopic is done actually?
[20:49] <AlexPortable> ok
[20:49] <Orioa_> do you have a icon on your task bar for network?
[20:50] <terminalmage> I'm trying to run a 14.04 LXC container installed using the "download" template for lxc. However, booting the container hangs for several minutes when running the upstart-socket-bridge upstart job. There's no log for this in /var/log/upstart, so I'm not sure how to go about troubleshooting further. Any ideas?
[20:50] <genii> bekks: If they don't know in #ubuntu-devel , they might know where to point you
[20:50] <Veil_> yes, but wireless connection is not an option yet, do I have to configure something?
[20:50] <terminalmage> eventually the container boots and runs fine
[20:50] <bekks> genii: thank you :)
[20:50] <shan> cannot install ubuntu, "Reserved BIOS boot area".
[20:50] <Orioa_> you will have to add it
[20:50] <shan> how, i just made new parition.
[20:51] <Veil_> I've added it, still is showing no options for wifi.
[20:51] <shan> don't know, that partition space for it have to be the first partition or....??
[20:51] <AlexPortable> how do i get classic gnome back?
[20:51] <Beldar> shan, pastebin sudo parted -l
[20:51] <Orioa_> is your wifi turned on?
[20:51] <k1l_> !info gnome-panel | AlexPortable
[20:51] <bluezone> what could cause ssh <amazonaws ip> to just hang after i enter the command? (nothing happens, except for a newline and a carriage return)
[20:52] <Veil_> I pressed the wifi button, and it will not enable it.
[20:52] <Orioa_> go to network connections in system settings
[20:52] <k1l_> Veil_: what does "rfkill list" tell you? (-> pastebin)
[20:52] <bekks> bluezone: DNS resolution of ssh. It might take up to 30-60s.
[20:52] <Beldar> AlexPortable, centos is gnome 2
[20:52] <bluezone> bekks, well does that also happen when i use the direct ip address?
[20:52] <AlexPortable> Beldar: i want a debian based distro
[20:52] <module000> bluezone: disable UseDNS in your sshd config
[20:53] <bekks> bluezone: Yes. Reverse DNS resolution.
[20:53] <k1l_> AlexPortable: since gnome stopped with gnome2. use gnome-panel
[20:53] <shan> Beldar | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7454345/
[20:53] <Veil_> ok, now what?
[20:53] <bluezone> ssh: connect to host <ip address redacted> port 22: Connection timed out
[20:53] <k1l_> !paste  | Veil_
[20:54] <raub> Has anyone had issues with sudo-ldap and kerberos in 14.04?
[20:54] <Orioa_> does anyone know why my ubuntu software center is showing apps installed in a different language and how do i change it to english
[20:54] <AlexPortable> k1l_:
[20:54] <bekks> bluezone: that means that there is no reverse route set.
[20:54] <Beldar> AlexPortable, Heh, it's all the linux kernel, gnome 2 is not supported by gnome even.
[20:54] <AlexPortable> E: Package 'gnome-panel' has no installaton candidate
[20:54] <k1l_> AlexPortable: which ubuntu are you on exactly?
[20:54] <raub> It is segfauting for me
[20:54] <bekks> bluezone: the package (ssh connection request) hits the target which is listening on port 22, bit it never gets an answer because of broken routing on the target.
[20:54] <AlexPortable> k1l_: 14.04
[20:54] <raub> May 12 16:48:09 testfirewall kernel: [  151.052911] sudo[1498]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fccc86ea92a sp 00007fff85070a28 error 4 in libc-2.19.so[7fccc8661000+1bc000]
[20:55] <shan> Beldar | i can create new partition, just need guide. how to?
[20:55] <k1l_> AlexPortable: is universe disabled?
[20:55] <AlexPortable> how can i check?
[20:55] <Orioa_> im using ubuntu gamepack 13.10
[20:55] <Beldar> shan, You have 4 partitions, that is the max in your partition table type=msdos, are you trying to make a 5th?
[20:55] <AlexPortable> nvm found it
[20:55] <Veil_> Can someone plz, link me to a guide that shows how to configure built-in wifi card?
[20:55] <k1l_> Veil_: what about the output of the command i gave you?
[20:56] <shan> Beldar | No, i'm just trying to install Ubuntu and when i press Install Now button it ask mefor "Reserved BIOS boot area".
[20:56] <Veil_> true, one sec.
[20:57] <Beldar> shan, Install at what gui?
[20:57] <AlexPortable> k1l_: how do i start gnome-panel ?
[20:57] <k1l_> AlexPortable: choose that on the login screen
[20:57] <Canadian22> \quit
[20:57] <AlexPortable> gnome flashback (compiz), gnome flashback (metacity), ubuntu (default)
[20:57] <shan> Beldar | I don't know. I have just deleted everything from machine. it's new install. ubuntu 14.04 lts i think.
[20:58] <k1l_> AlexPortable: go with the compiz one.
[20:58] <Beldar> shan, The pastebin you showed me shows 4 primary partitions taking up the whole HD, is this not correct now?
[20:58] <shan> yes, that is correct.
[20:59] <shan> Beldar | i don't know how to setup partition from with in gparted. that's what i tried from Gparted.
[20:59] <Veil_> rfkill list shows nothing.
[20:59] <Beldar> shan, Is there anything on the HD you need? Or you are just trying tio reuse the partitions?
[20:59] <shan> Beldar | No.
[20:59] <Beldar> to*
[20:59] <AlexPortable> k1l_: how can i customize those panels?
[20:59] <k1l_> Veil_: if there is no output in a terminal that is a very bad sign.
[21:00] <Beldar> shan, That was two questions, that just a ni means nothing.
[21:00] <Beldar> no*
[21:00] <Veil_> okay, great?
[21:00] <k1l_> AlexPortable: there is not really something for customization. that is just a fallback
[21:00] <AlexPortable> yes but i want the top bar at the bottom
[21:01] <k1l_> AlexPortable: why dont you go with lxde or xfce in the first place?
[21:01] <Beldar> shan, Can you just install ubuntu to the whole HD?
[21:01] <AlexPortable> k1l_: xfce is ugly. lxde lacks features
[21:01] <shan> Beldar | yes, incase it will not ask me for "Reserved BIOS boot area"....
[21:02] <shan> Beldar | I can do that.
[21:02] <k1l_> AlexPortable: ok, then talk to gnome
[21:02] <shan> Beldar | but will i be able to create other partitions?
[21:03] <trism> AlexPortable: alt+right click the panel
[21:03] <bluezone> bekks, so amazon aws is at fault?
[21:03] <AlexPortable> trism: nothing happens
[21:03] <trism> AlexPortable: actually in the compiz session you might need alt+super+right click
[21:03] <AlexPortable> i only get 'always on top'
[21:03] <Beldar> shan, That error is tied to UEFI, however I see no gpt partition table, Was this a computer with W8?
[21:04] <shan> Beldar | Yes.
[21:04] <shan> Beldar | Secure boot/UEFI is disabled in BIOS now.
[21:05] <Beldar> shan, Might need legacy ticked as well.
[21:05] <Veil_> 8[21:05] <shan> Beldar | Current option is set to "CSM" instead of "UEFI" and Usb Legasy is "enable".
[21:05] <user_> Can I get help with snort ?
[21:06] <k1l_> user_: read the documentation. network hacking is not in the focus of this channel
[21:06] <Beldar> shan, Hard to say what the issue is for me, but the info we have shared is very important for helpers to know so keep it all in your queries. ;)
[21:06] <user_> its not hacking , or is it ?
[21:07] <user_> Its intrusion detection system, that i have put on my server .
[21:07] <shan> Beldar | ask me and i'll say all. : )
[21:08] <foofoobar> So I'm using extundelete to restore deleted files. Doing a extundelte mydrive --restore-directory /home/foo/Pictures does only restore a few pictures. I remembered a sub folder: --restore-direcotry /home/foo/Pictures/XYZ works, too!
[21:08] <foofoobar> My problem is: I dont remember all the subfolders.. Is there a way to restore all subfolders with this path?
[21:09] <user_> k1l_,  maybe you can suggest where to search for help ?
[21:09] <iDevelop_> This channel is insanely active
[21:09] <Beldar> user_, /j morale-turpitudes
[21:10] <shan> Beldar | i have chosen the first option from installer other than "something else". i hope, i can resize partition later.
[21:11] <Beldar> shan, Don't tell me, I have no specific suggestions and fear youb are just clicking and hoping, that is not good.
[21:12] <Beldar> you*
[21:13] <user_> All I need is to help figuring out, why snort is not writing data in its log files.
[21:14] <bluezone> bekks, i'm not even able to ping the server O.o
[21:17] <xRanieri> Where is my gcc?
[21:17] <xRanieri> (Ubuntu)
[21:17] <skinux> Anyone had a problem with ALT+TAB not showing list of programs?
[21:18] <Wug> xRanieri: is it installed?
[21:18] <sl33k_> how to figure out if my distro is 32 bit or 64bit?
[21:18] <xRanieri> Wug: yea.
[21:18] <bluezone> sl33k_, try uname -a maybe
[21:18] <k1l_> sl33k_: uname -a and we can tell you
[21:19] <bluezone> score!
[21:19] <Wug> xRanieri@host$ which gcc
[21:20] <sl33k_> i686 GNU/Linux. 32?
[21:20] <xRanieri> Wug: If I run the python interpreter, i get [GCC 4.8.2] on linux2
[21:20] <xeonid> sl33k_: yep , its 32bit
[21:21] <bluezone> bekks, ok the problem was that for some reason my security group was setup only for port 32 -.- and i was trying to connect on the default ssh port
[21:21] <Wug> xRanieri: that probably just refers to the version of gcc used to compile that python binary
[21:21] <xRanieri> Python binary?
[21:22] <k1l_> sl33k_: for 64bit it lists x86_64
[21:22] <xRanieri> That's getting too technical for me. Explain like I'm 5 years old. xD
[21:22] <Wug> xRanieri: python is a program.  gcc was used to compile that program
[21:22] <xRanieri> ahh
[21:23] <mars_rulez> http://urlmin.com/4qj0u
[21:23] <Wug> if you think you have gcc installed, type 'which gcc'.  If it shows a file, it's installed correctly. if it shows nothing, it's either not installed or installed incorrectly
[21:23] <OerHeks> mars_rulez, please don't spam, thanks
[21:23] <Wug> if it's not there try 'sudo apt-get install gcc'
[21:23] <AlexPortable> how to remove all influence by canonical like amazon n stuff?
[21:24] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, all influence? choose an other distro. or just amazon ? disable it in privacy
[21:24] <AlexPortable> if i dont use unity is there also no amazon?
[21:25] <AlexPortable> idk what they all added
[21:25] <SchrodingersScat> AlexPortable: all influence = !debian
[21:25] <AlexPortable> =! ?
[21:25] <SchrodingersScat> !debian | AlexPortable
[21:25] <AlexPortable> does debian haves gnome fallback?
[21:26] <SchrodingersScat> AlexPortable: this is #ubuntu support..
[21:26] <sl33k_> How do I upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04? I am assuming it is supported till 2017.
[21:26] <OerHeks> good question, AlexPortable, FOR #DEBIAN
[21:26] <AlexPortable> sl33k_: 12.04 to 10.04 is downgrade
[21:27] <sl33k_> Whaaa??
[21:27] <k1l_> sl33k_: "do-release-upgrade"
[21:27] <OerHeks> sl33k_, go into softwarecenter>sources and select lts > lts
[21:27] <k1l_> sl33k_: or do you mean: 12.04 to 14.04 ?
[21:27] <sl33k_> no 10.04 to maverick
[21:28] <genii> sl33k_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[21:28] <bekks> !maverick | sl33k_
[21:28] <sl33k_> Does upgrades prone to be messy in the sense that boot screws up?
[21:28] <k1l_> sl33k_: maverick is no support
[21:28] <k1l_> sl33k_: if you are on 10.04 you can only go to 12.04.
[21:28] <AlexPortable> SchrodingersScat: OerHeks they dont know what gnome fallback is
[21:29] <sl33k_> I wanted to say Pangolin
[21:29] <k1l_> sl33k_: upgrades work in general. but for murphys law better have backups
[21:29] <ZacHack> Does anyone know a jailbreak for linux 7.0 Iphone 5, or any informtion on it?
[21:30] <k1l_> ZacHack: iphone jailbreaks are not in the focus of this channel. please see the iphone/apple community for that.
[21:30] <ZacHack> alrighty then
[21:32] <shan> how to install "Gparted"?
[21:32] <LOLOLOL> !op
[21:32] <compdoc> sudo apt-get install gparted
[21:32] <LOLOLOL> !op
[21:32] <k1l_> shan: iirc that is already installed. but if not just "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[21:32] <LOLOLOL> Trolls 4 u
[21:32] <LOLOLOL> Trolllllllll
[21:32] <LOLOLOL> Ndjkdkdkjkdkfkf
[21:34] <Ubuntucankissmaa> !op
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[21:34] <Ubuntucankissmaa> Hdjjdxjsdk
[21:34] <Ubuntucankissmaa> Jdjsjks
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[21:35] <genii> !cookie | k1l_
[21:35] <sl33k_> I don't have lts option in my software center. Where to look for?
[21:35] <Blue_Knight> !stupid
[21:36] <shan> unable to locate package "gparted"
[21:36] <Blue_Knight> shan: did you do apt-get update?
[21:37] <k1l_> sl33k_: what does "lsb_release -r" gove you?
[21:37] <sl33k_> Could anyone show me how to upgrade to 12.04 from software center?
[21:37] <shan> Blue_knight | i just have installed ubuntu.
[21:37] <Blue_Knight> shan: sudo apt-get update
[21:37] <Blue_Knight> shan: to retrieve package list
[21:38] <shan> Blue_Knight | ok. How to check Partition table?
[21:38] <sl33k_> k1l_: 10.04
[21:39] <k1l_> sl33k_: "sudo do-release-upgrade" offers you an update to which version?
[21:39] <Blue_Knight> shan: To check in what sense?
[21:41] <shan> i was having 4 patitions of this drive, but was getting issue while installing to one specific location. so i installed ubuntu to whole disk. now i want to check drive partition status. so i could resize partition for win 8 installation.
[21:41] <shan> Blue_Knight
[21:41] <foofoobar> Someone experience with extundelete? The --restore-all method is working (it finds most of my files), but they are in completly wrong directories
[21:41] <foofoobar> Any ideas what I can do here?
[21:42] <sl33k_> k1l_: it did not offer. it is installing seemingly
[21:42] <Blue_Knight> shan: I don't know.
[21:42] <k1l_> sl33k_: no, it will ask you to make the upgrade
[21:42] <shan> Blue_knight | and how to check how many partitions are there?
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[21:48] <shan> Blue_Knight | still "sudo apt-get install gparted" is not working after update.
[21:49] <peyam> Hi
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[21:53] <sander__> How come I have probems copy pasting something sometimes on ubuntu 14.04?
[21:53] <sander__> Happened on two diffrent PC's.
[21:53] <sl33k_> I think I am running on the root account and have not created a normal user. How do I verify? If I am root itself how do I add a normal account?
[21:53] <sander__> But suddenly it worked.
[21:53] <k1l_> sander__: can you be more specific?
[21:54] <shan> "sudo apt-get install gparted" is not working after update.
[21:54] <phao> Hi. I'm using xfce here, and then, I believe after some ubuntu updates, some keyboard shortcuts I've set like alt+f2, ctrl+alt+T don't work anymore. Any clues on how I can solve this problem?
[21:55] <phao> Not all though.. Ctrl+alt+d still works.
[21:58] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: is the end of your terminal prompt like ":~$" ? then you are as a "normal user".
[21:59] <AlexPortable> where can i download all wallpapers that ever have been in ubuntu?
[21:59] <BananaMan> hiya, how can I remove something from ubuntu unity?
[22:00] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: sl33k@sl33k-laptop:~$ but I have no clue how there is a sl33k-laptop?
[22:00] <BananaMan> I installed something but didn't like it so I removed it but it's stillin unity
[22:00] <BananaMan> i right click it and it just says sh
[22:01] <beefman> how do i install the innodb plugin for mysql?
[22:01] <shan> cannot find gparted from software center and through terminal.
[22:01] <sl33k_> k1l_: sudo do-release-upgrade prompted me for some options. I am not sure there is a version indication.
[22:01] <fishhead2567> good evening. i was curious as to whether or not there was a known issue in 12.04 related to inteface bonding. when i create a bond with two interfaces, one wired one wirless, the wireless interface never works. if i set to active-backup, it will not fail over, and load balancing reaks havoc. if i remove the wired (eth0) and reboot however, the wireless runs just fine.
[22:02] <sl33k_> Is it ok to hit enter
[22:02] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: The "laptop" is the name you gave the system at install, and yeah, you are as a normal user at this time. details,-> do terminal command -> uname -a <-.
[22:03] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: what version are you attmpting to version upgrade from ? That version do make a difference in the expected result of the command.
[22:04] <kaderub> hello
[22:04] <sl33k_> Bashing-on: 10.04
[22:05] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: That the server or DeskTop edition of 10.04 ?
[22:05] <sl33k_> desktop
[22:05] <sl33k_> Bashing-om ^
[22:07] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: Bad News for you, 10.04 DeskTop is End-Of-Life, and has no support, is a trial and error to version upgrade that far back to a current release, can be done, but real real iffy that it will complete .
[22:08] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: The recommended course of action is the back up your personal data, and do a clean install, else:
[22:08] <Bashing-om> !EOL | sl33k_
[22:08] <cancer> What software do i use to make partition?
[22:09] <Bashing-om> cancer: Many ways, ya want the GUI or terminal way ?
[22:10] <shan> Bashing-om | GUI.
[22:10] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: clean install means I have to install my softwares over again while upgrade does not require it?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> shan: Fire up the liveDVD, and from the dash activate the utility GParted .
[22:12] <shan> Bashing-om | thanks for the tip. i'll try that now. Be right back. : )
[22:13] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: Well, yeah - you have it correct, However so much has changed since 10.04 there is a very high degree of probability that you will not come out on the other side.
[22:13] <ryan-c> anyone know how to get a list of extensions available from the x server?
[22:19] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: I cancelled the download. thanks for the heads up. BTW my ubuntu is dual boot. IS there a way to make it all ubuntu?
[22:19] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: If you have not started the version upgrade process, Suggest ya back out of it now. With no repository to access (EOL) will fail.
[22:21] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: I killed the download process. does not make a difference?
[22:21] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: The easy easy way to make ubuntu the sole operating ystem is to install ubuntu and in the installer pick "erase disk and install ubuntu" over and done with. The install wizard will take care of all details. -> standard no frills install !
[22:22] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: killing the process, I can not see how it can make any difference .
[22:23] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: this is a clean install from cd-rom or pen drive it seems?
[22:23] <System0x11> I have some to do with radeon IGP 340M ion Ubuntu - with gala from elementary has some error with texture size
[22:23] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: Yeah, ( DVD, as the .iso no longer fits on a CD ).
[22:23] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: Sorry I meant I am safe by stopping the download of packages.
[22:24] <sl33k_> Are we on the same page?
[22:24] <AlexPortable> when i play a fullscreen game from steam
[22:24] <AlexPortable> the launcher and all hotkeys seem to crash
[22:24] <AlexPortable> like alt+f1, alt+f2, ctrl+shift+t
[22:24] <AlexPortable> how can i get them back?
[22:24] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: I had my files on drives on windows before? Are they taken care of?
[22:25] <sl33k_> Do I need to have any knowledge of ext4 or mounting?
[22:25] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: Well, depends on where the installion process was when it was terminalted - the 10.04 packages as still available on the repository. Maybe the install process has already done some installing ? ..(???) .. just depends on where it was at .
[22:27] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: 10.04 server continues to have support. so, can not say what might transpire at the time you terminated.
[22:27] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: Any way to verify? I think it was downloading 1334 MB so am I correct it was not installing?
[22:27] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: Windows will not be touched .
[22:28] <phao> Hi. I'm using xfce here, and then, I believe after some ubuntu updates, some keyboard shortcuts I've set like alt+f2, ctrl+alt+T don't work anymore. Any clues on how I can solve this problem?
[22:28] <phao> Not all though.. Ctrl+alt+d still works.
[22:28] <System0x11>  [drm:r100_cs_track_texture_check] *ERROR* Texture of unit 0 needs 3145728 bytes but is 3031040
[22:29] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: How are windows drive files made visible? The drives are called xxsize File System. What explains this?
[22:30] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: You may look in the logs and see what took place, The process is to sync the data bases, then if possible upgrade the installed packages to what is current on the repository miiror.
[22:32] <shan> Bashing-om | i want to make extra partition for Window 8. currently 'gparted' is showing (/dev/sda1 - ext4  296.50 GiB >> /dev/sda2 extended 1.5 GiB >> /dev/sda5 linux-swap 1.59 GiB) would you please guide how to ?
[22:33] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: The Windows drives should be able to mount from the file manager ( left pane), from terminal " xxsize File System" spaces in the file name presnt a small problem to work around.
[22:34] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: apt.log in dist-upgrade for logs?
[22:34] <Bashing-om> shan: Windows tools for Windows problems !!!! use indows to manipulate any Windows partitions, Windows 8 == UEFI == GPT partitioning, and that is the extent of my Windows knowledge ( I do not do Windows) .
[22:36] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: mounts are automatic. I am thinking too much about it I think.
[22:36] <System0x11> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7454728/
[22:36] <AlexPortable> I've set my desktop background with ubuntu tweak
[22:36] <AlexPortable> where does it stores those backgrounds?
[22:37] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: To look at the log, try /var/log/dpkg.log ....
[22:37] <eegore> is there an apt command to remove older versions of the kernal?
[22:37] <eegore> boot is full and I can no longer update
[22:39] <AlexPortable> what is the command to run the run dialog?
[22:39] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: I've pasted it here. http://pastebin.com/Dpy3fmSG What do you make out of it?
[22:40] <Bashing-om> eegore: A bunch at once ? something like ->sudo apt-get purge linux-image-2.6.32-{24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32}-generic-pae <-. do same for the headers.
[22:40] <Bashing-om> sl33k_:  I will look at /Dpy3fmSG . brb
[22:41] <sl33k_> sure
[22:42] <Bashing-om> eegore: Humm, take it under advisement that ap-get "may" not have operating head room in that instance, may take drastic actions to get that "head room" .
[22:42] <eegore> apt-get autoremove maybe?
[22:43] <Leenooxnoob> Hello
[22:43] <Leenooxnoob> i need help, please...
[22:43] <Leenooxnoob> Anyone wanna help me please?
[22:44] <Leenooxnoob> heeeeelp
[22:44] <OerHeks> autoremove does not remove old kernels, eegore, use synaptic for that
[22:44] <nuser_> hi everyone
[22:44] <Leenooxnoob> hi nuser
[22:44] <Leenooxnoob> Ehm
[22:45] <nuser_> i use ubuntu 14.04. ker nel 3.14.3, nvidia gtx 580m driver 331.67
[22:45] <nuser_> my ubuntu is crashing when i play cs source
[22:45] <Gar> Hello all. May I ask about the stable ppa for VLC, to use in Ubuntu 14.04 (in order to get stable updates)? Thx!
[22:45] <nuser_> the system freezes and i have to press shutdown
[22:46] <nuser_> an turn on the computer again to be back
[22:46] <nuser_> any idea?
[22:46] <OerHeks> nuser_, decrease the cs screen options in wine
[22:47] <nuser_> OerHeks. i use native cs source from steam
[22:47] <nishanth> so when i do sudo apt-get upgrade.... i get ....You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[22:47] <Bashing-om> eegore: If ya running 13.10 and above, yeah "autoremove" will remove the old kernels.
[22:47] <nishanth> but i do it and still do not fix it
[22:47] <nishanth> any ideas or suggestions?
[22:48] <eegore> Just tried it and it seemed to do the job
[22:48] <nuser_> OerHeks, i saw the kernel log  has NVIDIA has fallen
[22:49] <OerHeks> nuser_, still most likely the detail setting/screen options cause that, maybe #ubuntu-steam is a better place for tips
[22:49] <Leenooxnoob> it's possible connect lubuntu 14.04 and windows 8.1 with the Home group (Windows)?
[22:49] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[22:50] <nisaxaxa> am unable to run updates
[22:50] <nisaxaxa> can someone help?
[22:50] <Guest36827> hello
[22:50] <daftykins> nisaxaxa: can you paste.ubuntu.com the output in terminal of "sudo apt-get update" ?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: Looks like it was in the install process -> do -> sudo apt-get autoclean , sudo apt-get autoremove , sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg --configure -a // see what happens.
[22:51] <nisaxaxa> daftykins : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7454784/
[22:51] <nisaxaxa> done
[22:52] <Bashing-om> eegore: Developers do great work ! Ask and thou shalt receive ! ...That ability was added in 13.10.
[22:52] <nisaxaxa> daftykins: i ran the -f install but it did not fix it either
[22:52] <daftykins> nisaxaxa: can you pastebin what it said?
[22:52] <nuser_> OerHeks, thanks
[22:53] <nisaxaxa> daftykins:http://paste.ubuntu.com/7454784/
[22:53] <eegore> I think I am running 14.xx
[22:53] <daftykins> nisaxaxa: that was the same
[22:54] <nisaxaxa> daftykins: i dont understand, this is the output i got when i did sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:54] <daftykins> nisaxaxa: i'd like to see what 'sudo apt-get -f install' did
[22:55] <nisaxaxa> daftykins: oh ok
[22:56] <nisaxaxa> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7454797/
[22:58] <nisaxaxa> daftykins: did you see it ?
[22:59] <daftykins> nisaxaxa: yep, i just needed a moment. can you try "sudo dpkg -r gnome-settings-daemon-schemas" and pastebin output?
[23:00] <nisaxaxa> daftykins: sudo dpkg -r gnome-settings-daemon-schemas
[23:00] <nisaxaxa> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove gnome-settings-daemon-schemas which isn't installed
[23:00] <daftykins> ah, fair enough
[23:00] <daftykins> nisaxaxa: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:02] <nisaxaxa> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7454822/
[23:02] <bluezone> how do i force an application to use SOCKS (if it doesn't have built-in settings for it)
[23:03] <daftykins> nisaxaxa: sounds like you're using ubuntu-gnome and did an upgrade?
[23:04] <UbuntuBoy> hey all
[23:04] <nisaxaxa> daftykins: yes i am using gnome
[23:04] <nuser_> nuser_> hi everyone
 i use ubuntu 14.04, kernel 3.14.3 and gtx 580m driver 331.67
 my system is crashing
 when i play cs source
 from native steam
 any idea?
[23:04] <unopaste> nuser_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:04] <UbuntuBoy> does anyone know a good site to stream free movies on??
[23:04] <daftykins> nisaxaxa: have a look at this, i know you're not on 14.04 but it's useful - http://askubuntu.com/questions/451254/dpkg-trying-to-overwrite-gsettings-gnome-settings-daemon-convert-also-in
[23:05] <UbuntuBoy> anybody know of a good free site to stream free movies on??
[23:05] <daftykins> UbuntuBoy: that's not appropriate conversation for this channel
[23:06] <UbuntuBoy> why is that?
[23:06] <OerHeks> try #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[23:06] <daftykins> UbuntuBoy: this is not open for discussion
[23:07] <UbuntuBoy> hmmm okay then
[23:07] <Dat> anyone using pipelight on 14.10?
[23:07] <daftykins> Dat: 14.10 is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[23:08] <Dat> thanks
[23:08] <OerHeks> Dat, i did in 14.04 but i can confirm pipelight for netflix and such, is broken since saturday.
[23:10] <rrrre445534>  #hhvm
[23:11] <cyborgcygnus> Can you or how would you run a file as/with adobe flash player from a terminal? I know you can run the minecraft file from a terminal by telling it to open with java, how would you do the same with an exe meant for windows?
[23:11] <daftykins> !wine | cyborgcygnus
[23:11] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: what .exe are you trying to run?
[23:12] <Timh> hi, can anyone help me with a nvidia driver problem?   I switched to a new card and now the desktop freezes upon boot up....
[23:12] <Timh> I was using legacy drivers
[23:13] <cyborgcygnus> daftykins, It's an exe that opens a training dvd which brings up a white blank adobe flash player 11 screen, I've been trying to run it with wine already
[23:13] <fabio> my printer dos not print
[23:14] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: i doubt you're going to get far with that
[23:14] <daftykins> Timh: what's the new card? is it supported by non-legacy?
[23:14] <Timh> anyone use nvidia cards?
[23:14] <Bashing-om> Timh: Can you boot to the desktop in "recovery" mode ?
[23:14] <Timh> gtx 750
[23:15] <daftykins> Timh: uninstall your nvidia package and put a newer one on
[23:15] <Timh> Bashing-om: nope
[23:15] <Timh> I tried
[23:15] <Timh> I purged nvidia
[23:15] <Bashing-om> Timh: 750TI card ?
[23:15] <Timh> I get msgs like cinnamon has failed
[23:15] <Timh> 750
[23:16] <daftykins> Timh: is this Mint?
[23:16] <Bashing-om> Timh: Might try booting from grub with the "nomodeset" boot parameter, and see what Additional Drivers" has to offer.
[23:16] <OerHeks> cinnamon is removed from ubuntu repos
[23:17] <amyhenson> i am new to ubuntu and I could really use some help.  I tried to load a game but it was a .exe file and so I found out I need WINE.  I tried to download that but it asked me what program I want to open WINE.  What should I use?
[23:17] <Dat> oh well glad I have virtualbox
[23:17] <Dat> ;/
[23:17] <Timh> Bashing-om:  can you explain how?
[23:17] <daftykins> amyhenson: what's the game?
[23:17] <Timh> is there a 'how-to?'
[23:18] <cyborgcygnus> daftykins, Far with trying to get adobe flash working in wine? I just made an iso of another training dvd & this one is working, it says it's using a slightly lower version of adobe flash player.
[23:18] <Bashing-om> Timh: set "nomodeset" -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 <-.
[23:18] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: i don't follow
[23:18] <amyhenson> dafty SimCity3000.  I have never loaded anything on this laptop it is brand new. :D
[23:19] <daftykins> amyhenson: and it came with ubuntu?
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Timh: Keep in mind OerHeks' advisement. Cinnamon is no longer supported.
[23:20] <amyhenson> I ordered it from Linux Certified.
[23:20] <cyborgcygnus> daftykins, I meant are you doubting that I will get far with that exe all together?
[23:20] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: yeah, though i don't really understand why anyone would have a .exe to run a DVD 0o
[23:20] <Timh> i am using gnome
[23:20] <Beldar> cyborgcygnus, Wine has very limited use, not sure why people bother to be honest.
[23:21] <amyhenson> it came with umbuntu.  I think I am in over my head with it though.
[23:21] <cyborgcygnus> daftykins, Well it's a number of large files which doesn't fit on a cd & the exe runs an interactive training dvd.
[23:21] <Timh> I boot two OS's
[23:21] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: why is /etc/apt/sources.list edited? Is it any use for older releases?
[23:21] <Timh> almost same problem
[23:21] <Timh> ubuntu - gnome and lmde - cinnamon - both crash
[23:21] <aguitel> Timh, use  xorg-edgers ppa to install 334 series driver
[23:22] <daftykins> !wine | amyhenson
[23:22] <daftykins> amyhenson: have a look at the links above
[23:23] <Bashing-om> sl33k_:  ?? In respect ot doing the release upgrade ? then ya got to redirect the package manager as the repository for 10.04 DeskTop is turned down.
[23:24] <fishhead2567> question: is there a way to know which of the various wireless network managers is actually running and in control of a console-only machine?
[23:24] <aguitel> Timh, or use from nvidia.com :http://www.upubuntu.com/2014/03/install-nvidia-display-driver-33421-new.html
[23:24] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: yes. was reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release
[23:24] <amyhenson> thankyou dafty
[23:24] <Timh> not helping
[23:24] <Beldar> amyhenson, You can tab complete nicks so they are correct
[23:24] <daftykins> dafty works for me ;)
[23:25] <Timh> I didn't do anything with xorg-edgers and that is a post about how to remove it?
[23:25] <daftykins> fishhead2567: a GUI-less system doesn't tend to have a network manager
[23:25] <Timh> sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[23:25] <amyhenson> beldar ?  i don't understand?
[23:26] <Timh> that's the page I used
[23:26] <Bashing-om> Timh: use the link from before ->https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades <- page 2 .
[23:26] <Beldar> !who | Amy_Lu_Who
[23:26] <sl33k_> Bashing-om: I find the os goes unresponsive many times and requires a hard restart. Which version are you using? Do you experience unresponsiveness. Also is there a technique to work around when no key responds?
[23:26] <Beldar> Amy_Lu_Who, Half of a nick does not inform the other you are talking to them, like this does you as I used your whole nick.
[23:27] <Amy_Lu_Who> !tab Beldar like this?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> Timh: OOPps, sorry my wires are crossed ! .. for sl33k_ !
[23:27] <Beldar> Amy_Lu_Who, no type the first few letters of the nick then hit tab to complete the whole nick.
[23:27] <Amy_Lu_Who> Beldar, like this
[23:28] <trusty1404lts> hello
[23:28] <Beldar> Amy_Lu_Who, You got it. ;)
[23:28] <Timh> can i install from the repo?
[23:28] <Timh> how do I do that with no X?
[23:28] <Amy_Lu_Who> Beldar, whew! thanks!
[23:28] <Bashing-om> sl33k_:  use the link from before ->https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades <- page 2 .
[23:28] <Beldar> Amy_Lu_Who, Yeah, it is easy to get lost is all.
[23:29] <Amy_Lu_Who> Beldar, i get that.  i was lost the second I arrived here... or maybe before
[23:29] <Beldar> heh, I feel that way sometimes too
[23:29] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: I am running kernel 3.11.0-20-generic, on a core install.
[23:29] <Amy_Lu_Who> daftykins, wine is not working
[23:30] <daftykins> Amy_Lu_Who: that's a shame, gonna need a bit more than that to go on though
[23:32] <Bashing-om> sl33k_: The problems are present, or a situation that has been ongoing ? the gracefull method to backdown in a frozen situation -> key combo ctl+alt+Prt_Scrn and slowly press wile holding those 3 down reisub - to reboot ,, reisuo to shut down.
[23:32] <Amy_Lu_Who> daftykins, right.  um... the Ubuntu Software Center all turned to grayscale and is not responding and wine is about 75% completed with downloading
[23:32] <daftykins> Amy_Lu_Who: give it some time, it may recover
[23:33] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, how much memory do you have, how fast is your pc, do you have other windows open?
[23:33] <aguitel> Timh, remove all traces of nvidia and install nouveau ,then install nvidia propietaries
[23:34] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, 1 tarabite, 16 g ram, firefox is open (tutorials!), xchat open and the Ubuntu Software center.
[23:35] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, open a terminal and run     top   to see cpu use
[23:35] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, bear with me.  how do I open up a terminal?
[23:35]  * fergal32 waves hello
[23:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, do you use Unity desktop?
[23:36] <Amy_Lu_Who> will the task manager show me CPU use?
[23:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, I suppose. I don't use it.
[23:36] <fergal32> how do i open ubuntu 14.04 from stick ? i can choose try before installing and after that i only see a black screen
[23:36] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, will the task manager show me CPU use?  I use Unbuntu and I do not know what unity is.
[23:37] <Beldar> !nomodeset | fergal32 try this
[23:37] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, the cpu is at 2%
[23:38] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, it's the default desktop environment for ubuntu (but not the only one (see: kde, gnome, xfce, lxde)).  If you use unity, you have a left-side panel with squarish icons
[23:38] <kkkkkkkkk> how to disable a cpu core in unbuntu
[23:38] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, I do have that.  Unity it is then
[23:38] <kkkkkkkkk> ?????
[23:39] <Seven_Six_Two> kkkkkkkkk, you want to throttle for power management?
[23:39] <pavlos> kkkkkkkkk, sudo sh -c "echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu7/online"
[23:39] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, to open a terminal, click the dash icon (top of launcher panel) and type "terminal" and it should appear. It's a black screen with a prompt.
[23:40] <kkkkkkkkk> pavlos, thanks
[23:41] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, got it. thanks!  (Now what?)
[23:41] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, you'll be asked to use this if you ask for help. Alternatively called "shell", "console", "command prompt"
[23:42] <fishhead2567> daftykins: i figured... but i keep getting file-exists warning when i try to ifup my wlan0 connection and not configured when i try to ifdown. something is turning it on =(
[23:42] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, oh, that's where you'd type "top" and hit enter to get a better task manager.
[23:43] <professor_soap> hello!
[23:43] <daftykins> Seven_Six_Two: nice of you to throw a new user in at the deep end ;)
[23:43] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, WOAH.  that is better
[23:43] <Seven_Six_Two> daftykins, only one way to learn!
[23:43] <RaMcHiP> x
[23:43] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, guess I can uninstall the other. :)
[23:44] <professor_soap> Ubuntu Server 14.0.4, can't access CUPS web interface remotely.
[23:44] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, if you're ever told to do a command, put "man" in front of it first to get the "man page" or manual. e.g.  "man top"
[23:44] <rcmaehl_webchat> I'm an idiot and haven't labeled my Ubuntu CD's in years, now my 14.04 cd is lost in them. What's the quickest way other than Reboot -> Enter CD -> Boot CD to check which version each cd is?
[23:45] <fergal32> !nomodeset
[23:45] <professor_soap> rcmaehl_webchat: download and burn new cd?
[23:45] <professor_soap> I'm trying to set up CUPS on Ubuntu server 14.04
[23:46] <rcmaehl_webchat> professor_soap: I was afraid of that .-.
[23:46] <professor_soap> Can't access CUPS web interface remotely form browser.
[23:46] <professor_soap> any ideas?
[23:46] <professor_soap> I have 'Allow all' in cups config file
[23:46] <professor_soap> and 'Browsing On'
[23:46] <Seven_Six_Two> professor_soap, you need an entry is hosts.allow
[23:47] <professor_soap> where?
[23:47] <Seven_Six_Two> professor_soap, /etc/hosts.allow
[23:47] <Seven_Six_Two> professor_soap, there's also /etc/hosts.deny
[23:47] <professor_soap> Seven_Six_Two: ah thx, let me check!
[23:48] <Amy_Lu_Who> daftykins, what should I do about this geryscale ubuntu software center?
[23:48] <daftykins> Amy_Lu_Who: still hasn't come back, huh?
[23:48] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, kill it.
[23:48] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, and then use the terminal to do upgrades. It's faster and easier
[23:48] <professor_soap> Seven_Six_Two: how to allow anyone on local network?
[23:48] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, *gets out a shotgun* you sure?  j/k
[23:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, here's the one command to do it (no quotes):     "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade"
[23:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, yes, as long as you finish the upgrade and fix any errors before you try to restart.
[23:51] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, brb
[23:51] <Seven_Six_Two> professor_soap,   just leave the last octet off the ip. eg.  192.168.1.
[23:51] <Seven_Six_Two> professor_soap, assuming your lan's subnet is 255.255.255.0
[23:52] <professor_soap> Seven_Six_Two: hmm so 'ALL: LOCAL @192.168.0.' looks fine?
[23:52] <Seven_Six_Two> professor_soap, * s/subnet/netmask
[23:53] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, back.  i can't type anything into the terminal it is still running the top command?  can i kill it and reopen it?
[23:53] <fergal32> ubottu: still doesn´t work
[23:54] <fergal32> Beldar: still doesn´t work
[23:54] <Seven_Six_Two> professor_soap, don't use @   just do          ALL: 192.168.0.
[23:54] <fergal32> still get a blank screen
[23:54] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, hit q to quit
[23:54] <Amy_Lu_Who> q
[23:54] <Bashing-om> Amy_Lu_Who: With that terminal with 'top' having focus, 'q' key to quit.
[23:54] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, in your terminal. q is how you get out of "top"
[23:54] <Yelu> rcmaehl_webchat, each CD has a file README.diskdefines on it, which contains the release information
[23:55] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, "unacceptable floating point
[23:55] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, hit escape first, then q
[23:56] <rcmaehl_webchat> Yelu: thanks
[23:56] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, certain letters enable a prompt for actions that you can do. eg.  "k" while in top is to kill a program, and it prompts for the program's pid
[23:56] <professor_soap> Seven_Six_Two: MANY THANKS! you saved our night :)
[23:56] <Seven_Six_Two> professor_soap, that did it? awesome.
[23:56] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, ok.  now i type the command you gave me earlier?  (btw thank you for your excessive patience)
[23:57] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, yes. that will update your package database and do a system upgrade.
[23:58] <Kuroshita> Hey, so I've been wondering if I actually own my install of Ubuntu or does Canonical retain rights or licenses over it of any description?
[23:58] <Seven_Six_Two> Amy_Lu_Who, Kuroshita they own the name.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> Amy_Lu_Who: Hint: Copy/paste works in IRC also. lessens typos !.
[23:59] <Kuroshita> To your knowledge is that it? Just the name?
[23:59] <Seven_Six_Two> Kuroshita, yes. everything else is either open-source or third party.
[23:59] <Amy_Lu_Who> Seven_Six_Two, i tried copy paste but it showed up as "V" in the command prompt.  :/  oh, i typed it in and stuff is definitely happening.
[23:59] <Kuroshita> Seven_Six_Two, thanks :)
[23:59] <Seven_Six_Two> Kuroshita, unless you subscribe to their partner channel and have purchased something proprietary that I don't know about.
[23:59] <kiorky> hi i was used to start my install from a usbstcik but this wont work with 14.04 anymore, the only supported method seems to be unetbootin which is not an option for me