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OvenWerk1There is probably a pulseaudio in there too? ( 2176 ?        S<Ll 136:40 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog )00:02
ridethespiralYes there is00:13
OvenWerk1What does pulseaudio -k do?00:18
OvenWerk1Does that allow pavucontrol to run?00:18
ridethespiralNope lol00:23
ridethespiralblah.00:23
ridethespiralNot quite sure why it wouldn't work with a fresh install00:23
OvenWerk1Me either.00:23
OvenWerk1I have 14.04 installed on 4 machines here.00:24
ridethespiralHaha thanks for the help though. I'll try download the iso again and remake the usb stick00:24
OvenWerk1two are KDE, but one has the lowlatency kernel.00:24
OvenWerk1They all use pulse for audio though00:25
ridethespiralI thought in 12.04 that pulse was used but certain programs could take over and use alsa00:26
OvenWerk1It works better now.00:26
ridethespiraleven when I was using jack in 12.04, I could access pavucontrol00:26
OvenWerk1Yup same here.00:26
ridethespiralis it better to update while installing or update after installation?00:30
ridethespiralkinda just trying to eliminate anything that can go wrong lol00:31
OvenWerk1I have done both, I have heard, install first update after is less prone to trouble though.00:33
OvenWerk1But, there may be some things missing.00:33
OvenWerk1Or am I think of the clicking the install non-free sw?00:34
OvenWerk1Personally I normally boot to the live session and install from there.00:35
OvenWerk1I select to install updates during install and include non-free packages as well00:36
ridethespiralThat's what I did for this install. Connected to wifi & updated during install with restricted extras.00:36
ridethespiralHad all of these problems... Was going to reinstall it but I can't even boot to my usb anymore so I'm going to re download the iso and make a new one00:37
OvenWerk1When selecting the drive I always select "something else" Cause I want to know whats happening :)00:37
OvenWerk1So I set things up manually.00:37
ridethespiralYeah me too. I have Ubuntu on an SSD, /home on a HDD with an installation of windows 700:37
darrencHello :)00:40
OvenWerk1o/00:41
devinHello00:43
darrencInstalled UbuntuStudio 14.04 last week. Having a little trouble getting Ardour3 going. Looks permissions-related. Anyone know what's up? I'm great with Ableton Live and Reason, but totally green with Ardour.00:45
devinAre you trying to make a new session on an external drive or separate partition?00:46
OvenWerk1darrenc: did you start jack before you started ardour?00:46
darrencNo. A sub directory of ~00:46
darrencNo I did not start JACK first.00:46
OvenWerk1Ok so then ardour would have tried to start jack internally.00:49
darrencI'm not even seeing JACK. Just things that require JACK.00:49
darrencI guess I need to install JACK. Kinda funny that it wouldn't be in the distro.00:49
devinWherever you put your first session, your account must be the owner of that directory.00:50
devinDisclaimer: I am really new to Ubuntu Studio and Linux. But, I think Jack is on the distro already.00:51
darrencI am the owner and group of everything under the directories in question00:51
darrencJust tried in my ~. Nope.00:53
devinI had a permission problem when I first tried Arduour (and that's why I asked) because I was trying to put files on a partition I had formatted (which kept old permissions on it and files--still confused about that), but after that no problem.00:53
darrencI've been looking at this: http://jackaudio.org/linux_rt_config00:55
OvenWerksUbuntustudio should install with permisions all correct.00:55
darrencTrying to figure out the correct groupname00:55
OvenWerksaudio00:55
darrencWell... everything has been great until this.00:55
darrencAudacity works fine.00:56
OvenWerksAudacity is a whole different animal.00:56
darrencThat link I posted above seems to contradict the assertion that all permissions are correct00:56
OvenWerksIt is very good at what it does those.00:56
OvenWerksHow so?00:56
OvenWerksHave you exitted ardour yet?00:57
darrencI am getting the "Cannot use real-time scheduling" error the article describes.00:57
devinOkay, I am literally opening Arduour for the first time on my iMac (First test MBP5,5) and JACK is the default audio system. JACK and all one needs to run Arduour seems to be on the distro from the very beginning.00:57
darrencThe article also points out that Ubuntu > 10.4 does not configure groups correctly00:58
OvenWerksin a terminal type ls /etc/security/limits.d/00:59
darrencHow can I make sure Ardour is using JACK and not something else?00:59
OvenWerkswhat file does it show?00:59
darrencOK hold on.00:59
darrencaudio.conf00:59
OvenWerksNow that you have run ardour it has started jackd which you will have to stop with killall -9 jackd01:00
OvenWerksthat is correct.01:00
OvenWerksif you type groups01:00
OvenWerksyou shold get a list with audio as one of them.01:00
darrencnope01:01
OvenWerkswhat do you get?01:01
darrencdarrenc adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape sudo dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin sambashare01:01
OvenWerksaudio is missing.01:02
darrencyep01:02
OvenWerkstype echo $DESKTOP_SESSION01:02
darrencThis is a pretty fresh install and I left everything to the defaults.01:02
darrencubuntustudio01:03
OvenWerksOk, Howed that happen? (retorical question)01:04
darrencGolly gosh-ding-dang I dunno01:04
OvenWerksAnyway you need to add youself to the audio group.01:04
darrencHow do I know it even exists?01:05
OvenWerkscat /etc/group01:05
OvenWerkswill show all the groups01:06
darrencjust did that.01:06
OvenWerksaudio should have two users hooked to it01:06
OvenWerksThe line in mine is: audio:x:29:pulse,len01:06
darrencaudio has pulse and my GF's account, but not mine. She's a desktop user and I'm an admin01:07
OvenWerksBut when you installed you put her acount in as install then01:07
OvenWerksI would say she is user 1000 and you  are 1001?01:08
darrencOK. Added myself to audio. Gimme a sec...01:08
darrencI'm on the Audio/Midi setup dialog. "Audio System" should be JACK and "Driver" should be "ALSA?"01:10
OvenWerksUnless you have a firewire audio card.01:10
OvenWerksBut jack yes for sure.01:11
darrencNo, this is a consumer box that used to run Win 7.01:11
OvenWerksThen jackd with the alsa backend should be fine.01:11
darrencStill cannot create session01:12
OvenWerksMay have to logout/in.01:12
darrencI'll give it a shot. BRB. Thanks for your help.01:12
OvenWerksI would also suggest01:12
OvenWerksstarting jack first.01:12
darrencAdd to my list of auto start programs? What? jackd?01:13
OvenWerksNo, use qjackctl to start it.01:13
OvenWerksThat will allow you to make sure jack is set up and running before starting ardour and ardour will just use whatever you have set.01:14
ridethespiralI'll be back after I reinstall 14.04 lol01:16
darrencBwahaha. No seriously. I'll try this and be back in about 10 min. :)01:16
OvenWerksok01:16
darrencBINGO! :)01:23
OvenWerksGood, I guess we didn't envision someone setting up the acounts in that order.01:23
darrencYeah. I set her up first, then added myself and then tweaked the privileges.01:24
darrencThanks a bunch, OW.01:24
OvenWerksno problem.01:24
darrencSo I wanna set up a very simple template. This looks similar to Ableton Live.01:26
OvenWerksI am not the person to ask on that. I have never used Ableton01:27
darrencCreating a track on which I want to put 3 short audio clips that will always be used for this job.01:27
darrencTrack mode? Normal? Tape?01:27
darrencI love Live, but the job I am setting up needs to be do-able by someone who cannot afford a $1,200 DAW.01:28
OvenWerksI can understand... I would use track mode normal.01:29
OvenWerksI had an 8track open reel years ago and moved direct to Linux and ardour. So I am totally out of touch with windows and the sw that goes with it.01:31
darrencThis track (or the second track) should not be recordable. The first track just has the three clips, which get moved around depending on the length of the clip on the second track01:31
OvenWerksI tend to think in terms of what I would do with a physical studio01:31
OvenWerksThat should not be a problem, don't arm the record button.01:32
OvenWerks(red dot with dark square around it)01:32
darrencOK. So pretty similar to Live. Looks that way. I'm sure I'll get it.01:32
darrencThanks again. Bye :)01:33
OvenWerksNP bye01:33
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ridethespiralgot 14.04 reinstalled.. had to use nomodeset to boot to the live usb then did the install. Now my graphics resolution is really low and I can't change it. I disabled the radeon card and am just using the graphics of the cpu...02:33
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joevegashello13:44
joevegasI have a problem w/12.0413:45
joevegasI have not network or wifi control13:45
joevegasfor my other computer13:45
joevegasjust a noobe13:45
joevegasI've attempted to remove the conflicting program but to no avail13:46
joevegasI've even tried to install a external wifi dongle and passkey but no luck13:47
joevegashelp please13:47
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darrencGood morning (PST) :)17:09
darrencLong story short: I own Ableton Live and its great multiband dynamics plugin, but I have to make a particular audio task do-able by someone who might not have be able to afford a $1,200 DAW...17:11
darrencSo I am am trying to set up a template for the job in Ardour 317:12
darrencAnyone have experience with MBC2B or other multiband comp plugins for Ardour 3?17:12
cubAfter a few weeks after installing a fresh 14.04 some of the indicators disappeared, nm-applet among others which is quite annoying when looking for a new wifi network. Any clues on a fix?19:34
preetzerhi is it possible to have an ubuntustudio live cd?19:39

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