[00:02] <OvenWerk1> There is probably a pulseaudio in there too? ( 2176 ?        S<Ll 136:40 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog )
[00:13] <ridethespiral> Yes there is
[00:18] <OvenWerk1> What does pulseaudio -k do?
[00:18] <OvenWerk1> Does that allow pavucontrol to run?
[00:23] <ridethespiral> Nope lol
[00:23] <ridethespiral> blah.
[00:23] <ridethespiral> Not quite sure why it wouldn't work with a fresh install
[00:23] <OvenWerk1> Me either.
[00:24] <OvenWerk1> I have 14.04 installed on 4 machines here.
[00:24] <ridethespiral> Haha thanks for the help though. I'll try download the iso again and remake the usb stick
[00:24] <OvenWerk1> two are KDE, but one has the lowlatency kernel.
[00:25] <OvenWerk1> They all use pulse for audio though
[00:26] <ridethespiral> I thought in 12.04 that pulse was used but certain programs could take over and use alsa
[00:26] <OvenWerk1> It works better now.
[00:26] <ridethespiral> even when I was using jack in 12.04, I could access pavucontrol
[00:26] <OvenWerk1> Yup same here.
[00:30] <ridethespiral> is it better to update while installing or update after installation?
[00:31] <ridethespiral> kinda just trying to eliminate anything that can go wrong lol
[00:33] <OvenWerk1> I have done both, I have heard, install first update after is less prone to trouble though.
[00:33] <OvenWerk1> But, there may be some things missing.
[00:34] <OvenWerk1> Or am I think of the clicking the install non-free sw?
[00:35] <OvenWerk1> Personally I normally boot to the live session and install from there.
[00:36] <OvenWerk1> I select to install updates during install and include non-free packages as well
[00:36] <ridethespiral> That's what I did for this install. Connected to wifi & updated during install with restricted extras.
[00:37] <ridethespiral> Had all of these problems... Was going to reinstall it but I can't even boot to my usb anymore so I'm going to re download the iso and make a new one
[00:37] <OvenWerk1> When selecting the drive I always select "something else" Cause I want to know whats happening :)
[00:37] <OvenWerk1> So I set things up manually.
[00:37] <ridethespiral> Yeah me too. I have Ubuntu on an SSD, /home on a HDD with an installation of windows 7
[00:40] <darrenc> Hello :)
[00:41] <OvenWerk1> o/
[00:43] <devin> Hello
[00:45] <darrenc> Installed UbuntuStudio 14.04 last week. Having a little trouble getting Ardour3 going. Looks permissions-related. Anyone know what's up? I'm great with Ableton Live and Reason, but totally green with Ardour.
[00:46] <devin> Are you trying to make a new session on an external drive or separate partition?
[00:46] <OvenWerk1> darrenc: did you start jack before you started ardour?
[00:46] <darrenc> No. A sub directory of ~
[00:46] <darrenc> No I did not start JACK first.
[00:49] <OvenWerk1> Ok so then ardour would have tried to start jack internally.
[00:49] <darrenc> I'm not even seeing JACK. Just things that require JACK.
[00:49] <darrenc> I guess I need to install JACK. Kinda funny that it wouldn't be in the distro.
[00:50] <devin> Wherever you put your first session, your account must be the owner of that directory.
[00:51] <devin> Disclaimer: I am really new to Ubuntu Studio and Linux. But, I think Jack is on the distro already.
[00:51] <darrenc> I am the owner and group of everything under the directories in question
[00:53] <darrenc> Just tried in my ~. Nope.
[00:53] <devin> I had a permission problem when I first tried Arduour (and that's why I asked) because I was trying to put files on a partition I had formatted (which kept old permissions on it and files--still confused about that), but after that no problem.
[00:55] <darrenc> I've been looking at this: http://jackaudio.org/linux_rt_config
[00:55] <OvenWerks> Ubuntustudio should install with permisions all correct.
[00:55] <darrenc> Trying to figure out the correct groupname
[00:55] <OvenWerks> audio
[00:55] <darrenc> Well... everything has been great until this.
[00:56] <darrenc> Audacity works fine.
[00:56] <OvenWerks> Audacity is a whole different animal.
[00:56] <darrenc> That link I posted above seems to contradict the assertion that all permissions are correct
[00:56] <OvenWerks> It is very good at what it does those.
[00:56] <OvenWerks> How so?
[00:57] <OvenWerks> Have you exitted ardour yet?
[00:57] <darrenc> I am getting the "Cannot use real-time scheduling" error the article describes.
[00:57] <devin> Okay, I am literally opening Arduour for the first time on my iMac (First test MBP5,5) and JACK is the default audio system. JACK and all one needs to run Arduour seems to be on the distro from the very beginning.
[00:58] <darrenc> The article also points out that Ubuntu > 10.4 does not configure groups correctly
[00:59] <OvenWerks> in a terminal type ls /etc/security/limits.d/
[00:59] <darrenc> How can I make sure Ardour is using JACK and not something else?
[00:59] <OvenWerks> what file does it show?
[00:59] <darrenc> OK hold on.
[00:59] <darrenc> audio.conf
[01:00] <OvenWerks> Now that you have run ardour it has started jackd which you will have to stop with killall -9 jackd
[01:00] <OvenWerks> that is correct.
[01:00] <OvenWerks> if you type groups
[01:00] <OvenWerks> you shold get a list with audio as one of them.
[01:01] <darrenc> nope
[01:01] <OvenWerks> what do you get?
[01:01] <darrenc> darrenc adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape sudo dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin sambashare
[01:02] <OvenWerks> audio is missing.
[01:02] <darrenc> yep
[01:02] <OvenWerks> type echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
[01:02] <darrenc> This is a pretty fresh install and I left everything to the defaults.
[01:03] <darrenc> ubuntustudio
[01:04] <OvenWerks> Ok, Howed that happen? (retorical question)
[01:04] <darrenc> Golly gosh-ding-dang I dunno
[01:04] <OvenWerks> Anyway you need to add youself to the audio group.
[01:05] <darrenc> How do I know it even exists?
[01:05] <OvenWerks> cat /etc/group
[01:06] <OvenWerks> will show all the groups
[01:06] <darrenc> just did that.
[01:06] <OvenWerks> audio should have two users hooked to it
[01:06] <OvenWerks> The line in mine is: audio:x:29:pulse,len
[01:07] <darrenc> audio has pulse and my GF's account, but not mine. She's a desktop user and I'm an admin
[01:07] <OvenWerks> But when you installed you put her acount in as install then
[01:08] <OvenWerks> I would say she is user 1000 and you  are 1001?
[01:08] <darrenc> OK. Added myself to audio. Gimme a sec...
[01:10] <darrenc> I'm on the Audio/Midi setup dialog. "Audio System" should be JACK and "Driver" should be "ALSA?"
[01:10] <OvenWerks> Unless you have a firewire audio card.
[01:11] <OvenWerks> But jack yes for sure.
[01:11] <darrenc> No, this is a consumer box that used to run Win 7.
[01:11] <OvenWerks> Then jackd with the alsa backend should be fine.
[01:12] <darrenc> Still cannot create session
[01:12] <OvenWerks> May have to logout/in.
[01:12] <darrenc> I'll give it a shot. BRB. Thanks for your help.
[01:12] <OvenWerks> I would also suggest
[01:12] <OvenWerks> starting jack first.
[01:13] <darrenc> Add to my list of auto start programs? What? jackd?
[01:13] <OvenWerks> No, use qjackctl to start it.
[01:14] <OvenWerks> That will allow you to make sure jack is set up and running before starting ardour and ardour will just use whatever you have set.
[01:16] <ridethespiral> I'll be back after I reinstall 14.04 lol
[01:16] <darrenc> Bwahaha. No seriously. I'll try this and be back in about 10 min. :)
[01:16] <OvenWerks> ok
[01:23] <darrenc> BINGO! :)
[01:23] <OvenWerks> Good, I guess we didn't envision someone setting up the acounts in that order.
[01:24] <darrenc> Yeah. I set her up first, then added myself and then tweaked the privileges.
[01:24] <darrenc> Thanks a bunch, OW.
[01:24] <OvenWerks> no problem.
[01:26] <darrenc> So I wanna set up a very simple template. This looks similar to Ableton Live.
[01:27] <OvenWerks> I am not the person to ask on that. I have never used Ableton
[01:27] <darrenc> Creating a track on which I want to put 3 short audio clips that will always be used for this job.
[01:27] <darrenc> Track mode? Normal? Tape?
[01:28] <darrenc> I love Live, but the job I am setting up needs to be do-able by someone who cannot afford a $1,200 DAW.
[01:29] <OvenWerks> I can understand... I would use track mode normal.
[01:31] <OvenWerks> I had an 8track open reel years ago and moved direct to Linux and ardour. So I am totally out of touch with windows and the sw that goes with it.
[01:31] <darrenc> This track (or the second track) should not be recordable. The first track just has the three clips, which get moved around depending on the length of the clip on the second track
[01:31] <OvenWerks> I tend to think in terms of what I would do with a physical studio
[01:32] <OvenWerks> That should not be a problem, don't arm the record button.
[01:32] <OvenWerks> (red dot with dark square around it)
[01:32] <darrenc> OK. So pretty similar to Live. Looks that way. I'm sure I'll get it.
[01:33] <darrenc> Thanks again. Bye :)
[01:33] <OvenWerks> NP bye
[02:33] <ridethespiral> got 14.04 reinstalled.. had to use nomodeset to boot to the live usb then did the install. Now my graphics resolution is really low and I can't change it. I disabled the radeon card and am just using the graphics of the cpu...
[13:44] <joevegas> hello
[13:45] <joevegas> I have a problem w/12.04
[13:45] <joevegas> I have not network or wifi control
[13:45] <joevegas> for my other computer
[13:45] <joevegas> just a noobe
[13:46] <joevegas> I've attempted to remove the conflicting program but to no avail
[13:47] <joevegas> I've even tried to install a external wifi dongle and passkey but no luck
[13:47] <joevegas> help please
[17:09] <darrenc> Good morning (PST) :)
[17:11] <darrenc> Long story short: I own Ableton Live and its great multiband dynamics plugin, but I have to make a particular audio task do-able by someone who might not have be able to afford a $1,200 DAW...
[17:12] <darrenc> So I am am trying to set up a template for the job in Ardour 3
[17:12] <darrenc> Anyone have experience with MBC2B or other multiband comp plugins for Ardour 3?
[19:34] <cub> After a few weeks after installing a fresh 14.04 some of the indicators disappeared, nm-applet among others which is quite annoying when looking for a new wifi network. Any clues on a fix?
[19:39] <preetzer> hi is it possible to have an ubuntustudio live cd?