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ochosibluesabre: small reminder, xfpm PPA ;)08:47
ochosiali1234: since you seem to know a bit about the xfwm4 compositor, could it actually do a fade-to-black blanking the screen smoothly based on X11's screensaver settings? (or is the compositor the wrong place to implement this?)09:23
bluesabreochosi: poke10:11
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knomebluesabre, around?10:38
bluesabreknome: yes10:38
knomegood10:38
knometell me10:38
knomewhat do i need to remove to get rid of the black screen problem10:38
knomei don't mind losing features10:38
knomeas long as the laptop doesn't hang10:39
bluesabrelight-locker, I believe10:39
knomewasn't it an xfpm bug?10:39
bluesabreI think its a bit of both10:39
knomeaha...10:39
bluesabreochosi also has a fix 10:39
bluesabrethat I am going to upload10:39
knomei'll need to look at it then10:39
knomeaha10:39
knomewhen?????10:39
knome:P10:39
bluesabreif I knew where the code was10:39
knometoday? :P10:39
knomelol10:39
bluesabreochosi: poke poke10:39
knomeokay..10:39
knomei'm @ client10:39
knomeinstalling 14.04 \o/10:39
bluesabreah10:40
bluesabreawesome10:40
knomeafter whining about mac/win ;)10:40
knomewould removing xfpm potentially fix it?10:40
knomeand were *all* laptop users affected10:40
knomeor only some?10:40
bluesabreonly some10:41
knomeokay...10:41
knome:|10:41
bluesabreit doesnnt affect me10:41
knomecommon nominator?10:41
knomeit's an old acer travelmate10:41
bluesabrehard to say10:41
bluesabremy laptop is brand new and a gaming machine10:41
bluesabreso if its a race condition, I miss it10:41
knomeheh10:41
knomeokat10:41
knomeokay10:41
knomeso it happens when closing the lid?10:41
knomeand just doesn't return10:42
bluesabrefrom what I understand, yeah10:42
knomeoki10:42
knomei'll test it10:42
bluesabreok10:42
knomemy next shot at fixing it is in ~7 weeks10:42
knomeand i hope the final fix is in then10:42
bluesabrethat would be ideal10:42
knomeabsolutely10:42
knomei hope ochosi's fix fixes it for good10:44
bluesabreme too10:47
brainwashisn't it eric's fix?10:51
brainwashhttps://github.com/EricKoegel/xfce4-power-manager/branches10:52
brainwashbluesabre: ^10:52
bluesabrewhich one?10:53
brainwashlogind-inhibit10:57
bluesabredrat11:16
bluesabreI'll have to finish this later, there is some extra stuff between the release in xubuntu and this patch11:17
* bluesabre hoped to drop the files in and use quilt11:17
ochosibluesabre: this is the patch: https://github.com/EricKoegel/xfce4-power-manager/commit/21b8e5abf4e5f93c28cb964b4618b9b50978095114:14
ochosi(again :))14:14
ochosibrainwash: the logind-inhibit branch is the general patch, i'm not sure i'd wanna use that for xubuntu14:14
ochosias it is longer and hence harder to review/approve14:14
ochosithe short (hackier) one fits xubuntu more directly, hence it won't go upstream14:15
ochosibut with the amount of patches we carry in xfpm in 14.04, that isn't a problem at all14:15
brainwashochosi: woot14:29
brainwashbut this hack appears to be incomplete14:30
ochosiin what way?14:30
brainwashor rather meh14:30
ochosiit's fine, it gets the job done14:30
ochosiit's basically the same as the other, longer/better patch, but without the need to modify another xfconf setting in lls14:31
ochosiand i want the dumb/simple one tested first, because there's no chance ppl could mess something up with said xfconf setting14:31
brainwashdoes it work with xscreensaver?14:31
ochosithat's of secondary concern to the testing i want now14:34
brainwashany plans for a staging PPA?20:19
brainwashbasically a PPA which provides new stable versions for trusty20:20
brainwashlike xfce4-appfinder, version 4.11 did not make it into trusty20:20
sidi-valenciabrainwash, how many PPAs do you guys have?20:22
brainwashI don't know20:22
brainwashthe staging one would be only used for "stable" releases20:24
brainwashso basically sync from debian20:24
brainwashthe user could continue using his ubuntu LTS release20:25
brainwashbut with up-to-date xfce/xubuntu components20:25
bluesabrebrainwash: generally, we would use the xfce-4.12 ppa for that22:49
bluesabreochosi: thanks22:50
bluesabreworking on the package now22:50
ochosithanks bluesabre 22:50
ochosii gotta hit the sack now22:50
ochosibusy day tomorrow22:50
bluesabrealrighty, have fun22:50
ochosity22:50
bluesabrebefore you go22:51
ochosiif the small patch works, we should test the bigger one22:51
bluesabrewas there something for light-locker too?22:51
Unit193Can we (=not me) nuke https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa ?   All for lucid.22:51
ochosi(at least that's my opinion)22:51
bluesabreI mean22:51
bluesabrells22:51
ochosibluesabre: yeah, lls has to enable "--locck-on-suspend"22:51
bluesabreUnit193: yeah, probably a good idea22:51
ochosiso ll handles that22:51
ochosicause ll listens to logind22:51
ochosiand will hence do the right thing22:51
bluesabregot it22:52
ochosibut that can't go straight to trunk22:52
ochosithe actual solution will have to be a bit more complex...22:52
ochosibut if this works, then at least we have a direction22:52
Unit193bluesabre: Quantal is EOL'd too, so any repo that has quantal packages can have those packages removed.22:52
bluesabrecool, good to know22:52
ochosi(cause as brainwash cunningly mentioned before, we need something that also works for xscreensaver, which doesn't listen to logind)22:52
Unit193(Saucy still has 66 days.)22:52
ochosinow off to bed...22:53
ochosinight everyone!22:53
bluesabrenight ochosi22:53
bluesabrethoughts on having a ~xubuntu-dev/testing ppa where we test packages?22:54
Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/1283459 took a while.22:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1283459 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu) "Please merge xscreensaver (5.26-1) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Incomplete]22:58
Unit193bluesabre: That was pretty much the idea, no?22:58
bluesabrethought so, wanted to verify since it was never finalized22:58
Unit193ochosi thought it might be nice to have an /updates and /new-packages (or something) so if you only want to test the new packages rather than any updates that might happen, you could (unless I read wrong, my brain stops working in the heat/humidity.)23:00
bluesabrehm23:12
bluesabrenot an admin of ~xubuntu-dev23:12
bluesabreso, I suppose we can start using xubuntu-dev/ppa again23:13
bluesabreI can upload packages, cannot create new PPAs23:13
bluesabreand I can go ahead and clean up that ppa removing all the lucid packages23:14
bluesabrethoughts Unit193?23:14
Unit193Yeah, micahg would have to create it.  Remember that I'm not the XPL or one of the devs, but doesn't sound like a bad idea, can always copy the packages.23:16
Unit193bluesabre: Do you use backportpackage?23:16
bluesabreyeah, I know23:17
bluesabrenope, never used that23:17
bluesabresounds like a handy tool23:18
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/xfce I use it so I can upload to trusty+utopic (or more) with the "same version"23:19
bluesabreah23:19
bluesabreI replace the version and debuild again23:19
Unit193(Well, that's a patched backportpackage, but don't tell anyone...)23:19
bluesabres/version/release23:20
Unit193This also makes it clear it's the same version, but for different releases.23:20
bluesabreright23:20
Unit193LP doesn't like to take the same version for more than one release, last I knew.23:20
bluesabreoh, I guess I do use different versions23:21
Unit193Up to you, you're the dev. ;)23:21
bluesabre:)23:21
Unit193(Backportpackage normally makes it something like 2:1.6.3-2~ubuntu13.10.1~ppa)23:22
bluesabrexfce4-power-manager_1.2.0-3~trusty~ppa123:28
bluesabre:)23:29
bluesabrecrap, that's "older" than the ubuntu one23:29
Unit193(Doesn't matter here, but when it gets closer to 'z', the alphabet will wrap back to a, which is 'older' than 'z')23:32
bluesabreyay23:33
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10/+delete-packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=quantal - https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.12/+delete-packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=quantal ?23:50
bluesabreprobably should do that23:55
bluesabrehttps://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty23:55
bluesabreochosi: both packages uploaded ^23:55
bluesabreah23:58
bluesabretechnically, quantal has 4 days23:58
bluesabreI'll do ppa cleanup this weekend23:59
Unit193Oh it does?  Seems distro-info-data is a bit off, but that's expected I suppose.  Sure, thanks.23:59

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